Can coom and soul coexist in one drawing?

[Anonymous No.7049049]

Post examples

[Anonymous No.7049056]

>>7049049
>over rendered bullshit/ai looking
>soul
Anon...

[Anonymous No.7049067]

>>7049056
Post examples thennn

[Anonymous No.7049077]

>>7049067
Any works by kiliu

[Anonymous No.7049081]

>>7049049
Honestly it depends on your definition of soul. To me soulful coom is just wholesome, amateur, hopeful, and down to earth art. Soulless coom is over rendered girl in void, overly degenerate/uncomfortable scenarios, and ideas that just come from a place of ill will.

[Anonymous No.7049083]

>>7049049
You're making us find some style references for you to take home, aren't you?

but anyways, I think they absolutely can coexist, but it really varies widely from person to person

some of the things I find pretty or sensual as opposed to arousing may be vulgar to you, and viceversa

anyways, here's a piece that does it for me

[Anonymous No.7049089]

>>7049049
anything by csr

[Anonymous No.7049105]

>>7049049
Anything that involves loving couples, happy sex, and maybe even h•nd h•lding, I would consider soulful coom. Just as long as I get the sense that the two participants truly love each other outside of the bedroom.

[Anonymous No.7049126]

>>7049081
does it have to be amateurish? I thought it is more about artworks that are close to you and make you feel fuzzy inside.
>>7049083
I generally think appealing and soulful art styles should be discussed more here. After all the greatest payoff for your work is making something that resonates with another person. Vulgarity shown right in it's most animalistic and sincere form is quite soulful to me

I might've picked a wrong pic for this subject but I genuinely love how it looks like something from pinterest while being a coom drawing. Still, I'm pretty new to that concept and it feels like half of the times anons use that word completely seriously and the other half memeing the fuck out of it

[Anonymous No.7049128]

Anything by ke-ta
He is the one who kept on nudging my subconscious to try and see what I can make

DLsmile is the one who gave me the final push upon learning that he only picked up the pen at 30

[Anonymous No.7049129]

>>7049089
slop for failed normies

[Anonymous No.7049132]

>>7049056
>over rendered
check your eyes
>ai looking
don't do this shit

[Anonymous No.7049134]

>>7049089
I hate this because it depicted the hair as something very matte and musty
It looks like overgrown wool that has been exposed so much it became flaky and full of mildew.

Hong's hair is the best because it is always soft, fluffy, and full of life
Just the hair alone gives his image so much language

[Anonymous No.7049135]

>Can coom have soul?
No.

I would explain, but we all know this is just yet another time wasting, bait trolling shitposting thread to post porn and then cope&seethe to anyone daring to talk about art.

[Anonymous No.7049150]

>>7049056
>>over rendered
average beglet assessment

[Anonymous No.7049154]

>>7049129
>>7049134
>Post anyone's work, famous or not
>Get shat on
This board is hopeless.

[Anonymous No.7049160]

>>7049049
in a sculpture

[Anonymous No.7049162]

>>7049154
What does fame have to do with anything?

[Anonymous No.7049164]

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[Anonymous No.7049167]

[Anonymous No.7049168]

>>7049162
That's exactly why I said "famous or not" regardless, it gets shat on. Reading comprehension has to do with everything.

[Anonymous No.7049169]

>>7049168
>"this board is hopeless"
Pretty much heavily implying that's a bad thing.
Or did you already forget the context of your own posts like the bot you are?

[Anonymous No.7049512]

>>7049126
>does it have to be amateurish?
Not necessarily, but it shows that the artist wanted to show love despite their lacking skill set.
>>7049089
>Blank stare
>Patreon logo and link as signature.
>Girl in bedroom with tits out.
>fanart of a gacha game.
I admire the skill but this is the exact opposite of soul.
>>7049083
>some of the things I find pretty or sensual as opposed to arousing may be vulgar to you, and viceversa
This, pieces like
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>>7049165
>>7049167
Are revolting to me but I can see that the artist put a lot of time and effort into it the piece as a whole.
But i find cases like these
>>7049089
>>7049128
>>7049134
To be "I like it, therefore it's soul" when there really isn't anything to warrant it.

[Anonymous No.7049726]

Of course

[Lucius No.7049728]

>>7049726
Bit generic

[Anonymous No.7049731]

[Anonymous No.7049795]

>>7049512
It is soul because it clearly demonstrates a sense of affection.
Body language, lighting, and angle.

Coom = strong focus on genitals, vivid lights, and warm colors
Soul does not necessarily have to do the opposite but it always has its focus on something else other than the sexual gratification *of the viewer

[Anonymous No.7049798]

>>7049165
This is glaring
Very skillful but goddamn is it overdesigned and have a bad distinction between subject and background

[Anonymous No.7049852]

probably some pieces of frollo, milo manara I would even classify gustav klimt as a coomer artist.

[Anonymous No.7049874]

>>7049083
Name of the artist please

[Anonymous No.7050074]

>>7049169
>heavily implying that's a bad thing
it is

[Anonymous No.7050159]

>>7049049
>Can coom and soul coexist in one drawing?
Robert Crumb

[Anonymous No.7050160]

>>7049049
>Can coom and soul coexist in one drawing?
ashley wood's entire art style is dedicated to this goal

[Anonymous No.7050163]

>>7049874
it's ashley wood!

[Anonymous No.7050187]

[Anonymous No.7050330]

>>7049160
HUMMINA HUMMINA HUMMINA

[Anonymous No.7050338]

these are all fucking shit
the only pornfag I've seen that felt like he was making art is renji murata

[Anonymous No.7050346]

>>7049049
I like baallore's art, but I haven't seen him post any new art in like 5 years.

[Anonymous No.7050425]

definitely yes but none in the thread do. there has to be some actual beautiful poses with meaning and characters interacting where the erotic part comes from the subject matter and emotions rather than LOOK NAKED PERSON PORN POSE ME HARD OMG ASS BOOBS!!??? PP IN MOUTH AND BAGINA LOOK!! LOOK HARD PP!! that will just disgust people.
>>7049128
this is the only example that isnt completely shit but its still shit to me.

[Anonymous No.7050612]

>>7050163
Thank you

[Anonymous No.7050710]

>>7049049
Yes, this one, that I saved yesterday to my references folder. I like it very much.

[Anonymous No.7050716]

you release part of your soul every time you coom

[Anonymous No.7050831]

>>7050716
In a way, you are a part of your dad's soul.

[Anonymous No.7050836]

>>7049049
Yes shit like this almost tells a short story of the coom subject I really like it would love to make some when I develop more of an art style

[Anonymous No.7050850]

>>7050836
クッサ

[Anonymous No.7050865]

>>7050346
This is pretty

[Anonymous No.7050884]

>>7050159
>Robert Crumb
Correct answer, Robert draws women with huge asses and tree trunk legs being dominated by him (and being dominated himself) for his own sexual gratification, anything else is secondary.

[Anonymous No.7050936]

Yes they can, and they did in the past
But currently, all coom is just soulless booruslop

[Anonymous No.7052108]

Aoin is the prime example of artful, soulful coomer content

[Anonymous No.7052119]

>>7049164
>>7049165
>>7049167
this but in hetero please

[Anonymous No.7052518]

>>7052108
cringe

[Anonymous No.7052623]

>>7049089
lol
lmao even

[Anonymous No.7052625]

>>7049512
>>Patreon logo and link as signature.
Not an argument.

[Anonymous No.7052630]

>>7049049
>>7049083
>>7049089
>>7049128
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>>7049164
>>7049165
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>>7049852
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>>7050187
>>7050346
>>7050710
>>7050836
>>7050884
>>7050936
>>7052108
Reminder that "soul" is just a meme word used by morons that can't explain eloquently enough why they like a certain thing.

[Anonymous No.7052639]

>>7052630
soul is essentially the charm/appeal something has because of the flaws or quirks caused by human error.

[Anonymous No.7052670]

Didn't both Miura and Toriyama do an X rated coom one shot for their characters?

[Anonymous No.7052902]

For me, it's Nashidrop
>>7050346
Also a good pick

[Anonymous No.7052961]

>>7052630
Soul is the word I use to eloquently describe why I like a certain thing

[Anonymous No.7052967]

>>7052639
>>7052961
proving his point

[Anonymous No.7052982]

>>7049083
My friend owns like 20k worth of Ashley wood figures

[Anonymous No.7053023]

>>7049167
>>7049165
>>7049164
Any one know if there's an upload of this guys stuff anywhere?

Also, why are all of his gay stuff consensual but all of his hetero art is rape?

[Anonymous No.7053025]

>>7049049
I'd argue that the style of the 'Rundo Duo' games is soul but I don't know how much of that is the way it's animated.

>>7049731
Can never remember the artist. Can anyone help a guy out?

[Anonymous No.7053043]

>>7052630
art is subjective, not all of it can be explained
there's a lot of objectively "high quality" art that is worse than AI slop
I don't disagree that it varies from person to person therefore it's just something that has to do with them as opposed to a tangible quality that any piece can have, but I'm sure even you experience that feeling sometimes
you're not special my friend


>>7052982
your friend is giga based, those figures are beautiful

>>7053025
you can use saucenao to find artists easily
artist seems to be zankuro

[Anonymous No.7053061]

>>7052630
Soul = appeal
Now stfu nigger.

[Anonymous No.7053070]

>>7050936
>all coom is just soulless booruslop
If all you do is browse boorus it all looks like booruslop. There are plenty of artists who put their heart and soul into the work, but you choose to go to the pig trough time after time.

>>7052630
Or in other words, soul is how I make reference to an indescribable attractive (not just in a sexual way, obviously) quality of the work. That used to be called "a certain je ne sais pas" but french is gay and "soul" is shorter and more to the point.

[Anonymous No.7053072]

>>7052630
Why do you post this copypasta in so many threads?

[Anonymous No.7053078]

>>7052967
Except I accurately described what it is? Sorry you're too fucking stupid to understand a simple concept.

[Anonymous No.7053136]

[Anonymous No.7053711]

>>7052630
OP asked for a yes/no conclusion and not an explanation. If I test a particular artwork with my sensorium and it gives me the right buzz, then I can honestly give an affirmative answer. Learn to read, moron.

[Anonymous No.7053714]

>>7053023
>Also, why are all of his gay stuff consensual but all of his hetero art is rape?

Because he doesn't like women - can't bare 'em.

[Anonymous No.7053752]

>>7053714
Oh he bares them alright

[Anonymous No.7053837]

>>7052108
That thing is so bleach, muted and non-sexual, that even if it's depicting tits it can never be coom

[Anonymous No.7053899]

coom is devoid of soul by definition. if coom has soul then it's not coom

[Anonymous No.7053911]

>>7053023
>>7053752
>>7049167
>>7049164


Used to love sabu a lot, now I just appreciate the art. His femboys have become too masculine for me, they used to be more feminine. This ones still my favourite piece

[Anonymous No.7053930]

>>7049049
Yes, art can have sex and soul. Sex is arguably the most fundamental human instinct, rivaled only by fear of death, and maybe love. However, the dichotomy we perceive between sex and love is illusory, and responsible for much of the suffering that happens externally in the world, and internally in our minds. If you can see love as an extension of sex, you'll purify your connection to sex and sex itself. Look anywhere, especially on this site, and you'll see people who lack this understanding. They're slaves to sexual urges with no presence of love. That's basically what coom is.
The influence of sex (attraction, reproduction, and the subsequent social hierarchies) permeate ubiquitously. Its not just being horny, but also the desire to be attractive, or the suffering you endure from the lack thereof. Its also why you fantasize about a partner who understands you perfectly yet is unlike you. And more. Alternatively, love may come from sex, but sex is not equal to love. Sex also gives us dynamics in the negative, like a fetish built upon humiliation, or something alien.
For all these reasons, sex in art can have soul. Did you expect that the foremost human desire would have no depth, and no emotion? Sex is one facet of the human experience, and just like any other (survival, need for status, joy and depression) it can be explored, exercised, twisted and corrupted, or a source of joy and connection.
All of this paints a picture that is rarely paid attention to. Sex is suppressed, taboo, and inappropriate — even though its rooted in our genesis, dominates our interactions, and paves the way for our human connections. Like another anon said, coom cannot have soul, because then it wouldn't be coom. But art can have sex and soul, and for everyone's sexual minds to return to health and reason, it must. And it must be engaged with safely and sanely. Anything that we suppress will only come back ugly and neglected. Explore, don't suppress. That's art.

[Anonymous No.7053970]

>Every example of soul in this thread has just been Yuri and Yaoi.

[Anonymous No.7053984]

>>7053970
That is because there is a build up, a story, and something you may read and relate to with others. Yuri goes into great detail with story telling, the community is heavily involved with reading and appreciate the nuances of character development this isn't your usual goon slop there's a great deal of finesse behind the intricate writing and illustrations that capture a mood and how the figures heavily interact with each other. That is what I am trying to put a point of emphasis in the yuri general thread to try and motivate others to start describing what figures are doing, communicating, and most importantly how figures are read by the viewer instead of the 1girlwhitevoid floating in space doing fuckall.

[Anonymous No.7054046]

>>7053984
>1girlwhitevoid floating in space doing fuckall.
Or off-model plump/thick fanart of her being railed by faceless men (couldn't they have at least been ugly bastards?)

[Anonymous No.7054401]

>>7049160
Back when pajeets were actually useful

[Anonymous No.7054700]

>>7052639
>>7052961
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>>7053711
Proving my point.

>>7053043
>you're not special my friend
I don't use nonsense words to describe why I like certain artworks. I definitely am not "special" as the people I'm referring to. You are correct.

>>7053072
Because I like to unmask buzzword spouters for what they really are.

[Anonymous No.7054735]

>>7049049
I think Bruce Timm has excellent taste and draws one of the most erotic art I've ever seen.

[Anonymous No.7054736]

>>7054735

[Anonymous No.7054747]

>>7049049
no
>>7049105
Just because you draw happy loving scenes doesn't mean you actually feel that way : it just makes peepees hard, no soul behind it

[Lucius No.7054753]

>>7054747
>Just because you draw happy loving scenes doesn't mean you actually feel that way
Anon's feelings aren't dictated by you u fortunately

[Anonymous No.7054757]

>>7053930
>If you can see love as an extension of sex, you'll purify your connection to sex and sex itself.
Absurdity in text form from the hands of a pervert : loving your parents, loving your pets, loving your brothers and sisters are in no way linked to sex/lust, are you out of your mind? At least you wrote
>coom cannot have soul, because then it wouldn't be coom.
to gain a bit of respect back but I've never seen sex in art that isn't coom material

[Anonymous No.7054906]

>>7054757
>sex cannot be an act of love
And this, ladies and gentlemen able of critical thinking, is what religious indoctrination does to a person's brain.
Scary shit.

[Anonymous No.7055330]

>>7054736
ah a fellow bt enjoyer

[Anonymous No.7055361]

im so happy someone said ashley wood before I had time to. All the hentai shit is just genital focused, and thats why it's just soul-less coom.

[Anonymous No.7055389]

>>7053043
>zankuro
Thanks friendo

[Anonymous No.7055452]

>>7054700
>Proving my point.
You have shown that are incapable of proving anything, merely making unsupported assertions.

[Anonymous No.7055512]

>>7049164
this motherfucker is so good
I kneel to the homoGOD
>>7052108
what a beautiful rendering style. I shall study it tonight

[Anonymous No.7055525]

>>7054757
Yikes. I meant romantic love specifically, like Eros.
>"If you can see love as an extension of sex, you'll purify your connection to sex and sex itself."
This sentence apparently triggers you.
>"If you can see ROMANTIC love as an extension of sex, you'll purify your connection to sex and sex itself."
This is the clarification I didn't think I needed. You couldn't make that connection yourself? Why would you be on a thread about coom material and assume that the type of love I'm talking about is familial love?

[Anonymous No.7057724]

>>7049852
That's hot (and classy) as fuck.

[Anonymous No.7059764]

>>7049049
A shunga woodblock print by Kitagawa Utamaro.

[Anonymous No.7059815]

gay furry has tons of soul

[Anonymous No.7059816]

>>7059815

[Anonymous No.7059838]

>>7054736
>>7055330
You can tell B.T. genuinely LOVES women in a way I don't think any artist has since Frazetta. Can't understand how guys like them could get marries with their varied taste on women, you think they'd never be satisfied.

[Anonymous No.7059868]

>>7059838
Frazetta was a cuck

[Anonymous No.7059990]

>>7059838
There are some artists just like them nowadays, and if I've learned anything it's that today's artists are all a bunch of Incels, have varied taste in women and even like them a lot, no woman will like you

[Anonymous No.7060084]

A drawing is either porn or not porn. What makes a drawing have pornographic appeal e.g. a flashing naked boob, distracts from anything else in tbe drawing and any meaning or 'soul' the drawing could have is thrown out of the window because the huge naked boob positioned over an entire half of the drawing is clearly the central element of the piece. Presence of "soul" distracts from porn and presence of porn distracts from "soul" . One can try to combine both in the same piece but it just won't work. The intent behind creating art won't be clear and it probably won't make you feel anything in particular. It's bad art and bad porn too. If you want to look at porn just go look at porn. why would it need to be high art?

[Anonymous No.7060167]

>>7060084
Generalization, the post.
Many such cases on ic.

GG WP.

[Anonymous No.7060182]

>>7059838
His work looks outdated

[Anonymous No.7060203]

>>7049089
>>7049128
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>>7049795
>>7052902
-buzzer-
WRONG!

[Anonymous No.7060290]

>>7049049
Coom = 0 soul
Porn = occasionally soul
Erotica = often soul

If it causes an emotional response and activates the imagination, that’s what soul means to me.

[Anonymous No.7060561]

>>7049049
it absolutely can

[Anonymous No.7060565]

>>7060561

[Anonymous No.7060569]

>>7060565

[Anonymous No.7062288]

there is nothing soul about exhibitionism/voyeurism. Literal brainrot.

[Anonymous No.7062290]

>>7049049
shintaro kago is peak coom sovl

[Anonymous No.7062554]

>>7049067

[Anonymous No.7062683]

>>7052902
I kinda like it but it feels like the face is so inferior to the rest of the piece

[Anonymous No.7062727]

>>7060290
>coom and porn
There's a difference?

[Anonymous No.7062818]

>>7049049
I think the main thing is that the piece should look like the artist didn’t learn how to draw just to draw coom. So the piece should have effort put into things other than skin rendering and exaggerated proportions, make it seem like the artist actually cares about, well, art. I think this is a huge reason why nude paintings don’t read as coomery.

[Anonymous No.7062825]

>>7062727
NTA but erotica usually is more story based than porn