/beg/ & /int/ - Beginner and Intermediate Thread

[Anonymous No.7046339]

If you are a /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.

>STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view

>WHERE to get study materials
annas-archive.org
e-hentai.org/tag/other:how+to
check catalog for /artbook and /video course generals

>PYW and give your feedback
What can be improved? are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them? maybe a redline or a technique, be specific

Previous thread: >>7044008

[Anonymous No.7046345]

>>7046282
yeah, drawing bridgman is fun
just don't treat it like a chore or something to be 'done with'

[Anonymous No.7046355]

>>7046345
it's even more fun when you do it with a felt tip pen in a tiny sketchbook

[Anonymous No.7046364]

>>7046345
The way the David Finch roadmap puts it, it's basically meant to be an endurance test before you're allowed to draw things you like

[Anonymous No.7046369]

>>7046355
I have to try it at some point, but I've felt that it was meant to be drawn big, with something like charcoal
>>7046364
that might depend on what your goals are
I'd rather go slow or do something else and go back to bridgman when I find gaps in my understanding

[Anonymous No.7046370]

>>7046339
Morpho or Bridgman?

[Anonymous No.7046413]

>>7046370
Doesn't matter.

[Anonymous No.7046423]

Does tablet makes any differences when you are learning how to draw?
Generally like two years I bought screenless tablet, I'm mostly grinding fundies and occasionally doing some doodles.
But my friend has display tablet, and on the whim I used - and I swear, my art looked way better on it.
And now I don't know if I should stick with my screenless tablet or invest some money and get actual display tablet.

[Anonymous No.7046441]

>want to draw a thing
>have to look for refs of it
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
welp

[Anonymous No.7046445]

>>7046423
not really, trad would be best for someone starting out
>>7046441
and now it's worse with half of google searches being weird AI slop

[Anonymous No.7046457]

>>7046441
>>7046445
You can get rid of the AI slop by typing before:2021 at the end of your search

[Anonymous No.7046460]

>>7046339
Oh hey it's my drawing lol, which I attempted to shade the hair a bit, what do you anons in general think about it? >>7046445
Just add "-AI"

[Anonymous No.7046461]

>>7046457
just use -ai -sd -dalle -diffusion -intelligence? or any booru that doesnt allow ai

[Anonymous No.7046467]

>>7046441
>go to pinterest to look for refs
>it's even worse than before thanks to all the AI slop
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.7046487]

>>7046339
how do improve my painting?
and crits are welcome

[Anonymous No.7046496]

>>7046467
why are you still using pinterest?

[Anonymous No.7046501]

>>7046423
screenless is fine but size does matter as someone on here used to say.

Basically the tablet has to fit a representation of all your screen's pixels onto the drawing area.

smaller tablet = higher pixel density per distance of drawing area = bad
bigger tablet = lower pixel density = good

Why is small bad? because all your movements are magnified by 2 or 3x what they are in reality which puts higher strain and demand on your fine motor skills than what is natural. Even a small movement equates to a lot of screen estate. If you have a wacom you can keybind the precision mode function or remap your tablet to a smaller portion of your screen to see what drawing more naturally would feel like on a PC.

For screen tablets it should always be pretty good since the screen and drawing area has the same dimensions but I have never used one.

Just sharing some important knowledge for beginners that isn't commonly understood.

[Anonymous No.7046502]

>>7046496
because it sometimes shows me something decent made by an actual human bean

[Anonymous No.7046503]

>>7046487
You dont go dark enough so the value ranges on everything leaves a lot to be desired.

Your backgrounds dont follow proper value structures either; Typically the closer an object is the darker it appears. As it goes further away, it gets lighter and less detailed. You use the same value range across the environment usually.

[Anonymous No.7046504]

>>7046496
you can't use AI to make plamo mechs and tanks which are my main ref

[Anonymous No.7046506]

>>7046502
dont be dependent of one source only

[Anonymous No.7046508]

>>7046370
taco and bridgman

>>7046487
same as last time increase your value and saturation range.

[Anonymous No.7046512]

[Anonymous No.7046514]

ubel

[Anonymous No.7046522]

>>7046514
pose your right arm like that and compare

[Anonymous No.7046525]

>>7046522
left* i forgot how mirrors work

[Anonymous No.7046587]

Never did drawings in color before, the pic on the left is the first try few weeks ago, the right is drawn yesterday. Do you think I have any progress?

[Anonymous No.7046613]

fuckin hell. i thought drawing heads, faces and figures was hard and would "backfill skill" for some retarded reason but no. tried to "stack" and greeble cubes into a robot mech and damn. well, at least i enjoy the process.

[Anonymous No.7046618]

>>7046613
just knowing perspective isn't enough to draw cool mechs
use ref and build your visual library
and post em

[Anonymous No.7046637]

>>7046339
Oh hey, my study of Pasadena is up there!

That aside, I am debating on if I need to keep doing Drawabox Ellipses everyday or not, they are starting to cramp/strain my wrist a tad and I dunno if I should just do them once a week or not. Here are the ones I did today.

[Anonymous No.7046642]

>>7046618
kek i didn't get far enough to have something to post. the few i tried didn't make it very far. imma try again while thinking mech=interesting building in perspective and see what comes out. big simple forms that intersect, then details on top let's go.
>>7046637
literally my thumb joint always hurts, i am not even 30 but i am thinking of taking some old people joint pain vitamins. no clue what could cause it because i haven't banged it on anything and i'm not particularly hard on it. say "la-v" i guess.

[Anonymous No.7046643]

>>7046487
The colouring is boring.

[Anonymous No.7046646]

why is this so hard to get properly

[Anonymous No.7046650]

>>7046487
I think you are on the right path just continue to practice. Maybe challenge yourself with bigger and more serious projects

[Anonymous No.7046652]

>>7046496
what to use instead?

[Anonymous No.7046658]

>>7046646
GYAATT

[Anonymous No.7046661]

>>7046646
The council will follow your progress with great interest.

[Anonymous No.7046662]

>>7046345
>>7046369
very nice

[Anonymous No.7046667]

I will begin drawing today, inspired by that PewDiePie video. I don't even like him or anything, it just got recommended to me and was the final drop in the bucket for me to give it a try, even though I am well aware I will be nowhere as good as him.
I just figure, it's a better hobby than mindlessly browsing the internet for 10 hours daily or play video games I hate.

[Anonymous No.7046680]

>>7046642
Go see a rheumatologist

[Anonymous No.7046687]

>>7046339
>scribble made it to the op
nice

[Anonymous No.7046689]

>>7046652
magazines, movies, books, music, blogs, videos, photos, art, life, communities, add old, retro, ancient, international things scattered all over the internet. you just need to find a good rabbit hole of either people creating, collecting, selling or pirating stuff you're interested in

[Anonymous No.7046690]

>>7046637
It's more like the wrist just gets tired.

Regardless, I'll just do the Ellipses once a week and focus my energy on drawing basic shapes/fun full body anatomy stuff instead.

[Anonymous No.7046698]

>>7046689
>let me just go into my closet and dig through my massive magazine collection
>let me just speed watch ten 2 hour movies in case there's something I need
>music???
>blogs?
>videos, photo, art, life, communities, things on internet

[Anonymous No.7046702]

>>7046698
>music???
You don't get images while listening to music?

[Anonymous No.7046705]

>>7046698
you can use a search engine in 2024

[Anonymous No.7046711]

>>7046698
online refs are fine dude you can use pinterest or flickr just be discerning about what you refer to. if all else fails there are thousands of megabytes of reference packs in other threads. here enjoy:
https://mega.nz/folder/psxlCTJI#eQ3woVzY1aAvSDstxtDYlg

[Anonymous No.7046713]

[Anonymous No.7046714]

>>7046711
also fwiw be careful using things like magazines or other related media where everything is deep fried, lit badly, and photoshopped you will fuck yourself up. use art refs for people and use pinterest if you want to draw some object.

[Anonymous No.7046716]

>>7046637
>Pasadena
Small world. Are you here for art school or something?

[Anonymous No.7046720]

>>7046713
why the wide face

[Anonymous No.7046723]

>>7046698
If you're looking for what you're interested in I don't see the problem with that

[Anonymous No.7046724]

>>7046716
No no, Pasadena O Possum from Crash Bandicoot.

She's on the far right in the OP image. I am from England.

And no art school just self teaching myself with courses and generally just doing some everyday.

[Anonymous No.7046726]

I wanna draw NATURE. I fucking love FORESTS and VALLEYS and WATER.

What are some master studies a beg can do for this?

[Anonymous No.7046729]

>>7046726
going outside unironically

[Anonymous No.7046730]

>>7046726
One that you like

[Anonymous No.7046734]

>>7046720
Bad accuracy, still.

[Anonymous No.7046735]

>>7046667
I'm naturally starting to play less videogames because moving a mouse around is such an unnatural movement my wrist can't handle it anymore
If you want to start drawing some silly cartoon people right away and gradually make them more human start with FWAP (skip in once you can draw a ball though, it doesn't really get going until page 30), if you want an uncomfortable grind drawing household objects at weird angles over several months that will make you better on the other side read Keys

[Anonymous No.7046736]

>>7046698
>he doesn't maintain a reference file
What a shame, this anon never even had a chance of making it.

[Anonymous No.7046747]

>>7046726
feng zhu

[Anonymous No.7046749]

>>7046736
It's funny when people here say that "hoarding" references is bad, as if awkwardly googling images between every drawing is somehow faster/better.

[Anonymous No.7046751]

>>7046698
You can just save anything you come across doing whatever you do

[Anonymous No.7046756]

>>7046735
Yeah, I'd like to draw people/creatures first, not too interested in objects.
Mind telling me what FWAP is? I googled it and searched in the sticky but both came out with nothing.

[Anonymous No.7046765]

>>7046339
Ultrabeg here, this is the first time since like a year that I attached a body to the head I drew and also the first time that I ever tried to draw actual folds in clothing.

[Anonymous No.7046768]

>>7046756
Nevermind, by two-digit IQ brain finally realized you mean Fun With A Pencil by Loomis.
Thanks for the tips, anon. I will start there then.

[Anonymous No.7046769]

These took me a short amount of time to do. These are pretty crude but it feels far more natural for me to construct bodies now, even if I am still not very good at it.

[Anonymous No.7046794]

is it better to draw with a pencil then with a pen or is there no difference? and how do you add depth?

[Anonymous No.7046796]

>>7046794
Ballpoint is more difficult but perfectly viable. Begs should definitely start with pencils

[Anonymous No.7046798]

>>7046794
use pen to train yourself to think about the lines before you place them as there is no erasing. add depth by learning about forms in perspective.

[Anonymous No.7046800]

>>7046698
I do all of those.
A note to anyone who cares, torrent J-dramas, K-dramas and TV shows like Game of Thrones and you will suddenly have a wide range of references (of a few specific models) in many lighting conditions, in many clothes, and in a decent number of poses depending on the show's subject matter.
>NO NO NO ITS TOO MUCH TO SIT TGROUGHHHH WAAAAAAAAH
put down the tiktok electric jew that you fried your brain on for one second you mentally retarded infant. if you can sit down to draw, which i hope you do, then you can sit down and learn to meticulously collect reference materials because that is a very useful and necessary skill.

[Anonymous No.7046804]

>>7046713
do a basic block-in to get your framing/proportions right
it's also way too rushed, be patient

[Anonymous No.7046810]

[Anonymous No.7046811]

Another weekend spent not drawing. Feelsbad
I have a deadline of a month for getting down to it. Probably won't make it.

[Anonymous No.7046812]

[Anonymous No.7046815]

>>7046798
A crab.

[Anonymous No.7046822]

what's a gesture drawing app that lets me link to online galleries (so things hosted in mega)? does that exist? i have quickposes installed already

[Anonymous No.7046825]

>>7046798
got any good videos to give me? keep in mind am a complete beginner this is self taught stuff

[Anonymous No.7046830]

Is there anything I should fix before inking? It's for a commission

[Zip20 !!YBmF52TMlBQ No.7046843]

It's not drawing but would love to hear your feedback.

What do you think. I don't think it's very important to copy the shape of the reference 1 to 1, it's important that the face is appealing. Maybe eyes too big?

[Anonymous No.7046845]

>>7046825
anons ITT will disagree hard but do drawabox lessons 1, 2 and 3. they go over line control, perspective, and observation. i would not bother with the later lessons imho, but for getting ink on paper and giving you some skills to try a more detailed course i think it's good.

[Anonymous No.7046848]

>>7046845
I won't disagree but I'd limit it to first 2 lessons

[Anonymous No.7046855]

>>7046848
i forgot how they go exactly but yeah, 012 is probably all that is needed. i checked and 3 is all about plants which is unnecessary, it's just forms moving in space which you don't need from drawabox. i wouldn't go crazy and do 500 cubes and cylinders and chests but it's probably not a bad idea to work those in somewhere too. just want to come out the other side of the training with a bare understanding of forms, intersecting forms, and tool control.

[Anonymous No.7046869]

>>7046843
Where you found so ugly head?

[Anonymous No.7046874]

Perfect English.

[Anonymous No.7046875]

>>7046843
Pretty good so far!

[Anonymous No.7046889]

>>7046749
meanwhile famous artist course spends the whole intro telling people to hoard and the trad tools for it before they even bring up things like pencils or drawing.

[Anonymous No.7046891]

>>7046810
>>7046812
Love those!

[Anonymous No.7046893]

>>7046794
Based man made horrors beyond our comprehension poster

[Anonymous No.7046894]

Who are your favorite artists? I keep hearing people say you need to copy your favorite artist, but I genuinely don't have one.

[Anonymous No.7046904]

I wish i was a drawer and not a stinky no-draw. I don't even do anything with anything man.

[Anonymous No.7046906]

Day 1, just doodled some random stuff. Looks horrible, but that's to be expected. Tomorrow I'll be following actual tutorials. Skimmed a bit through FWAP and man, it has SOUL. I thought it'd just be a very dry educational book, but it's genuinely entertaining and funny.
Also an idea I had was to mark which drawing you liked most, I did it with an X for now. So I can look up the "greatest hits" of each day.

[Anonymous No.7046907]

>>7046894
I want to make shit that's somewhere inbetween Araki's JoJo art, Dave Gibbon's work on Watchmen and the Batman TAS artstyle.

I don't really desire to draw anything that looks like realism.

[Anonymous No.7046908]

doodle and practice

[Anonymous No.7046910]

>>7046894
kimjung gi style and akira toriyama machines, baby

[Anonymous No.7046911]

>>7046904
>I wish i was a drawer and not a stinky no-draw.
You make it sound like something that's out of your control...

[Anonymous No.7046916]

This might sound like a retarded question, but do you have to "choose" an art style to follow? For example, is someone who is good at anime also good at realistic portraits or does your experience in skill in one not flow over to the other?

[Anonymous No.7046917]

>>7046894
Takeshi Obata, and whoever drew Reincarnation Colosseum

[Anonymous No.7046918]

>>7046765
Pls, somebody crit my folds. I feel like it looks wrong but I don't really know what the proper way of doing it would be.

[Anonymous No.7046922]

>>7046916
follow your heart (dick)

[Anonymous No.7046925]

>>7046906
nice pepe

[Anonymous No.7046928]

>>7046893
It's a priest who has cut off all his senses so that he can communicate with God all the time.

[Anonymous No.7046936]

I did these from memory/imagination after having copied some taco and morpho I struggle too much with perspective on the body, I have studied normal perspective but body parts is a whole other thing than boxes

also hip anatomy is confusing to me

[Anonymous No.7046939]

>>7046936
try drawing the same reference 3x, instead of just once. there's something really valuable about correcting your own mistakes

[Anonymous No.7046940]

>>7046911
It seems to me that its the case.
Otherwise i actually don't want to do it but i want to want.
Its all fucked

[Anonymous No.7046942]

>>7046894
I like sketchy artists like Daniel Warren Johnson or Ken Niimura
If I ever get good at drawing that's what I hope my style will look like

[Anonymous No.7046943]

>Get told to "Just Draw"
>Try to draw
>Can't do it because i've got no technical ability
>Simplify what i was trying to draw
>Still can't do it
>Make it even rougher
>Still can't
Good advice.
I totally shouldn't have done actual studies beforehand

[Anonymous No.7046945]

>>7046943
beginners shouldn't even begin by drawing. they should just do straight lines until they can comfortably pull an 11 inch straight line (the length of the paper) in any direction.

After that, you have to master curves, circles, and ellipses. maybe then, you can move onto form, but not too quick, or you'll get too frustrated

[Anonymous No.7046948]

>>7046945
>beginners shouldn't even begin by drawing. they should just do straight lines until they can comfortably pull an 11 inch straight line (the length of the paper) in any direction.
I feel absolutely no desire to do any of that.
Sounds like the most mind-numbingly boring thing you could attempt.
I accept that its the pre-requisite to drawing well however. Are there any courses specifically for this?

[Anonymous No.7046950]

>>7046948
it was satire, anon. I think the best way to study drawing is to copy your favorite artists and draw from life. In the past, I would've also said it was a requirement to study construction and anatomy, but even now I don't think that's really the case anymore. construction is really just a systematic organization of 2d shapes, a file system for your mind, basically. construction is just simply a way of understanding the shapes you study, but drawing is all shape, at the end of the day.

https://youtu.be/kbKqIJcIUCw

This is the greatest lecture on drawing ever done. Study it and apply it as much as you can.

[Anonymous No.7046952]

>>7046950
I'll get around to it sometime, maybe, eventually.
My biggest problem is that i straight up don't draw because i'm a lazy bum and when i do i'm greatly dissatissfied with anything i put out so i just give up for a few months and then get back to it and then drop out again.

[Anonymous No.7046959]

>>7046952
you'll never succeed in any area of life, let alone art, if you can't stay consistent. That's why i'm such a proponent of master copies. they're pleasant and fun, and you're interested in what you're drawing, and there's no risk of putting your own idea out there and having it trampled on. Best way to stay consistent is to have fun

[Anonymous No.7046972]

I’ve never asked for criticism and I’ve been hindered for it. Please help

[Anonymous No.7046976]

>>7046943
>Doing studies isn't drawing
Kek, what a retard

[Anonymous No.7046981]

I don't want to draw but i wish i did.
Feels bad just wasting day after day not doing anything of worth. I've got free time a plenty so i could do easily do it too.

[Anonymous No.7046983]

>>7046972
helle mr.watts are you here to shill course again?
don't forget your conté's
shit jokes aside
proportions are a bit wonky (long ass arm) and some shapes are a bit weird (the ass on the left figure)
I like the kneeling one the most tb h

[Anonymous No.7046984]

>>7046983
Watts as in the assdruk family annihilator???

[Anonymous No.7046985]

Can i just start off with Loomis fun with pencil and just do that or am i ngmi if i do that.
It seems to be the beginners go-to but idk.

[Anonymous No.7046992]

>>7046945
How to make someone not want to draw 101

[Anonymous No.7046995]

>>7046985
if you read i and do what it says why not

[Anonymous No.7046998]

>>7046985
yes, you can start with that, but only if you enjoy it. if you start to hate it, find something else

[Anonymous No.7046999]

>>7046985
Don't let FWAP fool you by the first 30 pages, that book will kick your fucking ass and filters even talented people because it becomes technical and abstract

[Anonymous No.7047003]

>>7046928
What a chad

[Anonymous No.7047004]

>>7046999
dnot listen to him, book is ezi and for babi

[Anonymous No.7047011]

>>7046999
loomis asks a lot from the student of FWAP, namely, that they sit over idk maybe a week or two on some exercises and really grok the concept of form, with the blook head-ball thing. i don't think he explicitly says "form" in the proper context but he probably does, but still a simple explanation that he is thinking in Blender would at least reduce the degree of difficulty curve. also i think a big problem is that nobody ever tries to get noobs into observation. does no good and is frustrating as all hell if the only things you can check out of your visual library and put into your sketchbook are the tutorials. FWAP is fun if you develop observational skills and start looking at people's pictures and say "there's a couple of spheres, a triangle, and a rectangle," blook it, and play with it like playdough on paper. i think this was intuitive for people 100 years ago but for screen babies it's impossible and requires concentration and deliberate practice.

tldr: try FWAP but make sure you dedicate time to observing life and adding to a sketchbook from that first

[Anonymous No.7047016]

>>7046983
Thanks; my value placement is completely uninformed and it leads to some strange shapes. I should work on my proportions then? That’s the glaring fault?

[Anonymous No.7047017]

women are hard

[Anonymous No.7047018]

>>7046984
no as in jeffrey watts
he loves his charcoal pencils and newsprint pads

[Anonymous No.7047022]

>>7047011
he was talking about the advanced perspective loomis starts going over later on in the book

[Anonymous No.7047025]

>>7047016
Well yes but you also mentioned another problem so you might as well work on that too, don't forget to squint and connect shadow-shapes when you can.

[Anonymous No.7047029]

>>7047017
wow it looks just like her

[Anonymous No.7047030]

>>7047017
lol thanks

[Anonymous No.7047032]

>>7047022
yes that too. from what anons have said though, and just from my experience myself trying to really get the concept of representing 3d forms in a 2d plane well and consistently, i think the blookie boys are the first filter. if someone can understand what he means by ball head and break down faces into building blocks and then build them back up into a thing they can put back onto paper they already have a tremendous leg up imo. then it doesn't help because a student with no visual library will just do the blooks, move on and get frustrated by gesture, frustrated by perspective, and then shit on loomis forever.

[Anonymous No.7047033]

My president... TRVLY the golden age of slavdom.

[Anonymous No.7047036]

I won’t draw for this thread, either.

[Anonymous No.7047041]

Good. God knows we don't need another schizo.

[Anonymous No.7047049]

The urge to be helpful and reply to anons is interrupting my drawing.

[Anonymous No.7047051]

>>7046894
So-bin, Takaki Tsuyoshi
I haven't put together a list, though

[Anonymous No.7047063]

>>7047017
Dios mio
La Abominación del /beg/...

[Anonymous No.7047064]

Fwap shoes

[Anonymous No.7047068]

>>7047064
nice

[Anonymous No.7047072]

>>7047017
They make me hard

[Anonymous No.7047100]

alright i'm done. i set out for one mech and put the idea of perspective blocks into my head and got it done. i should really reference more things because tbqh i don't know what functional mechanics looks like nor do i know how tank treads work but it's over. adding to my sketchbook and calling it a day. now onto anime heads.

[Anonymous No.7047102]

>>7046906
You should give up. You're never going to draw anything serviceable.

[Anonymous No.7047108]

>>7046906
you have the right attitude. don't feel bad about bad things, everyone has thousands of clankers in them. give it a few months of mindful practice. do not be afraid to draw random nonsense shapes if you can figure out how to add some depth. add and subtract from your play-forms. and make sure to look at things irl. textures, proportions, and your natural horizon line.

[Anonymous No.7047109]

>>7047102
Virgin no-draw crab retard
vs
>>7047108
Chad WAGMI advisor

[Anonymous No.7047115]

>>7046512
lord have mercy

[Anonymous No.7047119]

>>7047041
There are no schizos, just like how there are no crabs.

[Anonymous No.7047121]

i tried to draw a skull in mspaint, it’s kind of limiting but it’s fun in that way, anyway yeah this is what i tried, critique would be really appreciated. I pretty much tried to follow a reference as accurately as possible and crosshatching

[Anonymous No.7047124]

>>7047119
Bro I got a crab for you right here: >>7047102

[Anonymous No.7047129]

>>7046765
Come on, somebody give me a (you).

The more I look at him, the more I realise he looks like he's been in a knife fight. How do I learn to draw clothing and the folds of the fabric in ways that look more natural than this? Should I just do a lot of copying until I get a feel for it?

[Anonymous No.7047131]

>>7046765
>>7047129
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN7dny6SHbg&t=15s

this looks high level, but it's really not. you could try to learn it from a book but watch this guy, then stare at clothing irl. the more you solve the problem in your head, the more intuitive and convincing it will be in a drawing.

[Anonymous No.7047132]

>>7047129
What is there to crit? You obviosly didn't read any material on drapery and didn't use a reference.
Read Hogarth's book on drapery and learn this shit right. Alternatively, Michael Hampton's figure drawing course has a really good drapery section.

[Anonymous No.7047134]

>>7047129
>>7047132
Well apparently you did use a ref, but didn't make an attempt at understanding or even just copying the folds.

[Anonymous No.7047136]

>>7047134
I can't attach the pic for some reason, but it's literally the first google result for Ziggy Stardust

[Anonymous No.7047142]

Please, friends.

[Anonymous No.7047145]

>>7047131
Thanks, will check out.
>>7047132
Like the other guy said I did use reference, but yeah I didn't read any material on this or grinded it beforehand. My learning process is just drawing whatever I want to draw and then I just wing it and see how it goes, when I notice I fuck something up really badly I identify the problem and do some research.

Will look at that Gampton guy, thanks.
>>7047134
I did attempt to replicate the folds, and it failed because I had absolutely no clue what I was doing.

[Anonymous No.7047157]

what is this called and what does it do?

[Anonymous No.7047164]

>>7047157

[Anonymous No.7047165]

>>7047157
That's the upper part of the pectoral muscle and the collarbone.

[Anonymous No.7047166]

>>7047157
Clavicle and an idea of a pectoralis?

[Anonymous No.7047170]

>>7047157
That’s the upper pec, the bit that comes from the clavicle to the humerus. >>7047164
That’s the pec minor, a different muscle that you don’t really need to worry about because you can’t really see it

[Anonymous No.7047193]

>>7046339
How do I make drawing fun?

[Anonymous No.7047205]

>>7047193
set a series of realistic goals and aim for them during each period of drawing

[Anonymous No.7047206]

Is the order of learning gestures and anatomy important?

[Anonymous No.7047211]

>>7047206
What are you drawing

[Anonymous No.7047225]

>>7047211
animu

[Anonymous No.7047230]

>>7047225
Ok, start drawing something and if you don't know to draw a part of the body, check anatomy, if you don't know how to draw a natural pose, check gesture, but if you don't know how to check for either then learn observational drawing so you can check what you're struggling with

[Anonymous No.7047232]

[Anonymous No.7047238]

>>7047108
Worthless advice full of buzzwords.

[Anonymous No.7047240]

>>7047102
>>7047238
samefag

[Anonymous No.7047241]

>>7047238
>textures, proportions, and your natural horizon line
>worthless buzzwords
This board is lowkey the funniest but it's like that kind of funny when you know someone is stupid irl but they really think they're smart and try to act like it but then they fail easy logic tests and sperg out until they drive away spectators long enough for them to rebuild the ego bubble and go straight back to thinking they're Einstein and Arnold Schwarzenegger fused but are still resentful over the fact that the world just isn't warping to fit their desires

[Anonymous No.7047243]

>>7047241
I agree and everything, but please use commas.

[Anonymous No.7047246]

>>7047232
is this what zoomers are into now?

[Anonymous No.7047277]

>>7047193
Draw what is fun for you. Like big tits? Draw them, you will have fun.

Like cute lolis? Draw them, you will have fun.
Like big sweaty hairy man? Draw them. Have fun.

Stop grinding boxes, perspective, boring shit and just draw what you brought into drawing to begin with. I love anime and draw anime characters, I also love Jesus and the bible and draw scenes with jesus. If you only grind boring fundies you will kill your love for art burn out and stop drawing for good.

[Anonymous No.7047289]

>>7047277
also like think about how humans began with art. It was trying to draw cool animals and show things we liked and were proud of. You can just draw yourself with a massive, meaty, impractically-sized hog and no one can really stop you

[Anonymous No.7047292]

>>7047277
> like thing?
>draw it
>okay
>draw thing
> looks bad
>feel bad for doing this to thing I like
>back to study
>feel demotivated

How do I break this cycle?

[Anonymous No.7047295]

>>7047292
draw thing until look good

[Anonymous No.7047296]

>>7047292
gamann, shitekure

[Anonymous No.7047338]

>>7047277
Asking for a friend: what if you are autistic and love grind autistic shit?

[Anonymous No.7047341]

Average Polish nationhood enjoyer vs Average 50 year occupation enthusiast.

[Marielx !Vidya4T.Xo No.7047342]

Does this look like shes resting on the lamball?

[Anonymous No.7047347]

>>7047193
Draw to learn. Draw things you want to learn.

[Anonymous No.7047348]

>>7047342
I'd slant the elbows down so it more follows the form of the lamb plus raise the shoulders

[Anonymous No.7047351]

His do i deal with being picrel asf?
I've got the entire day off tomorrow so i could finally get started on drawing. I don't think i will tho simply because i always lose interest at the very moment i'm about to do it. I just procastrinate and its been like this for three years now.
What do i do?

Also how do you draw humans? I can do the face somewhat ok but the body fucks me up so bad. None of the contruction methods i've seen helped me with that(to be fair tho i haven't practiced much)

[Anonymous No.7047352]

>>7047342
She looks like she's physically holding herself up in that position
Needs to droop more.

[Marielx !Vidya4T.Xo No.7047353]

>>7047348
Noted, thanks for the feedback.

[Anonymous No.7047354]

>>7047292
Read
>>7047347
If you draw to learn, it implies you need curiosity, to begin with, and willingness. Without them, you can't be motivated.

[Anonymous No.7047355]

>>7047351
drawing is an activity reserved for the elite in intelligence.

you're clearly not us.

give up, and do something easier, like business or engineering.

[Anonymous No.7047358]

>>7047355
I don't want to and i've also seen extremely retarded people draw somewhat well.

[Anonymous No.7047359]

>>7047351
>What do i do?
I wish that I knew
>Also how do you draw humans?
Learn anatomy. But, to start with, you can and should simplify anatomy.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTY4AtphBe8NS7WFIMIhHIBJVk3xQvi-q
This channel teaches it pretty well (in jap, but subs in various languages.)
Study parts of the body separately. Head, Arms, Hands, Torso, Legs, Feet.
This is easier than trying to draw full figures every time which lets you manage your energy better, but you should still draw a full figure at least once a week.

Beyond that, work on your fundamentals
https://gvaat.com/blog/fundamentals/
That's how you git gud at drawing anything, you have good fundamentals and you use them in the pursuit and application of specific technical knowledge about whatever you're trying to draw, which you get by drawing from reference.

[Anonymous No.7047360]

>>7047358
they weren't retarded, you just thought they were retarded because you are so retarded you couldn't know how to tell a retard from a non retard, retard.

[Anonymous No.7047361]

>>7047354
What if i don't really want to learn anything in particular?
Space is kinda cool but 1. It seems like its not even real 2. I'm top dumb to learn about it earnestly

[Anonymous No.7047363]

howies are here i guess they sleep all day

[Anonymous No.7047365]

>>7047360
Don't care i don't want to do art as my job either way.
I literally just want to gst like 3-4 cool ideas out that i have in my head. Not much else.

[Anonymous No.7047370]

>>7047363
I wake up at 4pm and bitch about wanting to want to draw up until 3AM when i snooze off saying "Yeah i'll get it done tomorrow"
I've spent all Sunday playing The Long Dark. Its a good game but i'm a fucking retard for not taking an hour or two off to draw a bit so i wouldnt feel guilty about not doing it

[Anonymous No.7047371]

>>7047365
you posted a wojak image about changing your life and escaping neetdom, and now all you want is to do drawing as a hobby? sasuga retard...

[Anonymous No.7047375]

>>7047361
if you are not curious to learn. Just draw.

[Anonymous No.7047376]

>>7047371
I'm not a neet but i don't do anything of worth and meaning with my free time and its been killing me.
I'm ok money-wise i just need to spend my time doing something that's more than base level retard hedonism

[Anonymous No.7047377]

>>7047375
I'll do it tomorrow

[Anonymous No.7047381]

>>7047359
>Anatomy
I've been told that's the end goal after you already know gesture and figure.
After anatomy its the Form.
I mesn i can give it a shit but that's conflicting with what i've been told before

[Anonymous No.7047386]

>>7047376
I've been drawing dragons because I want to learn about dragons. Draw to learn. Find something to learn. Learning to learn is also part of drawing to learn. What else is there left for you to do? You either just draw or draw to learn. If you don't, why are you here?

[Anonymous No.7047385]

>>7047376
okay, i'm done playing a character. sorry, anon...

if you really want to learn to draw, get on https://setteidreams.net/settei/ and start copying the model sheets there. Do at least 1 hour per day. it's your morning ritual now. If you can learn to draw a human being, you can learn anything. and if you build a habit out of it, you'll never stop drawing. the better you get, the more fun drawing will become. I also recommend you buy Andrew Loomis' books and taco anatomy drawing books.

good luck...

[Anonymous No.7047389]

>>7047386
>If you don't, why are you here
The desires for improvement i hold are wholly incompatible with the sort of a person i am.
See: Decadence

[Anonymous No.7047390]

I want to draw dicks.

[Anonymous No.7047391]

Sup beg, my PC scared me by hdd doing clicking sound so i panic bought new hdd and ssd. looks like i will finally upgrade my windows 7 (to 10 Enterprise IoT LTSC).

>>7047341
thumbs up for obscure polish memes
>>7047246
>men are into women in provocative / vulnerable poses displaying their tits
this isnt exclusive to zoomers
>>7047193
once the beg gains kick in and you realize your drawings start to resemble reality, thats when it gets fun. also it is super fun when you gain STRONG inspiration and make a real art. that happened to me only a few times, but i had massive fun and was smiling during whole time above the canvas
>>7047142
keep drawing, nothing we can do or say will replace need for raw mileage
>>7047121
my crit is to learn how to save file as jpeg instead of taking photo of a screen
>>7046985
if you are looking for real beg book, go for keys to drawing. fun with pencil is... better to save it for later in your art journey
>>7046916
why would you choose anything? just experiment and keep drawing, eventually you will find what works for you
>>7046906
>>7046667
welcome to the beg! i heavily recommend keys to drawing as your first introduction book
>>7046889
to be fair the people before the internet had to do crazy shit to find good reference. nowadays hoarding isnt necessary unless government starts fighting "disinformation" for real, turning internet into blank space
>>7046587
yeah, right has that simple refined painter feel while left is: i dont know how but i must draw
>>7046487
value range
>>7044693
>is it normal to struggle a lot more when drawing from photo reference? Something about having an object in front of me makes it a lot easier
photo is flat, real life is seen by stereo vision (two eyes) which gives you extra information about depth. and if you see something confusing, you can just tilt your head a little to get different angle and understand. btw as beg you should expect everything to be hard by default until you do it enough times its easy

[Anonymous No.7047395]

>>7047385
I'm gonna feel cringe copying anime goddamn.
I'll look for some less cringey feeling equivalents but i'll give it a shot first ig.
I doubt that alone will make me good ig. Tho the main hurdle is just in actually getting to do anything so whatever i can do what's been presentsd.
Hope they have Space Dandy sheets in there, that was a good one.

[Anonymous No.7047398]

>>7047381
I don't mean full understanding of every muscle, that comes much later, but you've gotta know the basics of how a human body goes together if you want to understand what you're drawing.
At least, I found a cursory explanation very useful for how I thought about what I was drawing.

[Anonymous No.7047399]

>>7047391
>if you are looking for real beg book, go for keys to drawing
That book made me so mad i broke multiple pencils and i didn't even get through 1/4th.
I'll rather fuck around with Loomis.
His beg-friendly narration will get me through it.

[Anonymous No.7047403]

>>7047385
based site i'll be back when i can redraw all 151 digimon

[Anonymous No.7047406]

>>7047398
I know it goes like Head-Chest-Hip connected with the spins.
Legs and arms have three parts each with the third being the feet/hand itself.
I've read through construction books before but i still can't draw a good human.
Even in low-detail or whatever

[Anonymous No.7047413]

>>7047406
Try the channel I linked. Do very basic figures if complex ones are too much. Work your way up. Which is to say, Just Draw™.

[Anonymous No.7047417]

>>7047413
>Just Draw
That's the hardest part desu. Havent done it in four months now.
I'll break the streak tomorrow ig.
Thanks for the resources and goodnight.

[Anonymous No.7047421]

>but what do i draw?
draw this motoko

[Anonymous No.7047423]

>>7047421
Too hard

[Anonymous No.7047425]

>>7047421
Do you know, I think I will

[Anonymous No.7047426]

>>7047423
there's like 14 lines

[Anonymous No.7047428]

>>7047426
14 too much for my /beg/ hands
Genuinely could not do it

[Anonymous No.7047430]

>>7047428
back to observation drawing you go

[Anonymous No.7047432]

>>7047430
Dont know what that is. I could try but its probably too hard

[Anonymous No.7047433]

What are the important parts of the body to note when trying to copy accurately? Like which point should I look at to reference other points?

I've figured that the bottom of the pelvis in relation to the head is important, bellybutton is a good one too. What else?

[Anonymous No.7047445]

>>7047433
anything that helps you with proportion landmarks or muscles you want to show off

[Anonymous No.7047447]

>>7046339
Excuse the wall of text, but I really need help on something. I have a favorite artist I've been heavily referencing for pieces and studies, but whenever I try to do things on my own, I have a hard time. I thought I was taking the details and information in, but it's like I forget most things and it's hard to put the figures together. I want to be an artist who can draw anything on his own, not a copy machine, but every time I go it without the artist as reference it's rough.

1. Am I hurting myself by being so reliant on an established artist's work as reference, or is it okay that I'm creating pieces referencing their work? To be clear, I'm not doing 1-to-1 copies except for clearly labeled studies, but instead I'm taking pieces of different references and using those to make my figures, similar to photo refs.
2. Does the above method help with learning anatomy or do I need to do something else?
3. Is it better to learn anatomy by copying from an official drawing book? If yes, why? What is the difference between copying from a drawing book versus copying from a pro artist whose style you want to imitate?

[Anonymous No.7047451]

>>7047447
you've been neglecting your memory drawings, haven't you?

[Anonymous No.7047454]

>>7047360
Then why are artists stereotyped as being inarticulate or otherwise lacking in education, or emotional types who don't do well with logic?

[Anonymous No.7047455]

>>7047432
so don't draw anything and stop posting

[Anonymous No.7047456]

>>7047124
That’s not crabbing, retard.

[Anonymous No.7047457]

>>7047447
You learn anatomy by learing about muscles and bones and ligaments and how they join together. You need to pair your just drawing with some actual academic learning.

[Anonymous No.7047461]

>>7047451
I guess so, because this is the first time hearing of them. I've been practicing figures and head constructions when studying the artist's work, trying to understand how the artist did everything and imitating it on my end to the best of my abilities. I usually do some from imagination first to get a baseline, then copy study their work, and follow up with another few from imagination. Is that what you're talking about?

[Anonymous No.7047462]

>>7047454
we're too intelligent for human language

[Anonymous No.7047465]

>>7047447
once you're drawing your own drawing, get references and study whatever you need to study to get your drawing on the right path. that means you'll be stopping a lot at the beginning to see something for what you're struggling, study that, go back to your drawing until you start struggling with something else, study that, and loop until your drawing is done. speed will come from you learning the shit and need to do this less and less overtime
to do this you need to know what fundies are and how they can help you so you know what to look for

[Anonymous No.7047467]

>>7047447
What the other anon said, you need a strong dose of memory drawings and "thinking when you draw".
1. Absolutely okay. The way you described it is how most people learn to draw like their favorites. That's what you want, isn't it? I believe one of the Old Masters advised picking no more than two or three of your favorites (making sure to select only the most skilled of artists), and heavily studying their works.
2. Your favorite artists may have found shortcuts or methods of stylizing anatomy that are tried and true. In some cases the master will know when to omit certain parts of anatomy in order to make a more pleasing picture. Refer to both the anatomy textbook and the master.
3. The anatomy textbook will have lots and lots of supplementary information that a master's picture can't immediately provide. Study from both.

[Anonymous No.7047493]

>>7047462
Check your ego and arrogance, please. Anyone can draw. It is not an academic pursuit. Even a child can draw, and frankly, most children draw better than 99% of the pro artists. Better in a sense of authenticity.

[Anonymous No.7047496]

looked at once for a few seconds and drew it

[Blint !!dFi9y8xX0lX No.7047501]

my 2nd attempt at drawing from reference.

[Anonymous No.7047502]

>>7047451
>>7047457
>>7047465
>>7047467
thanks for taking the time to answer, anons. I've been absolutely lost during this, so it really helps having some direction here.

[Anonymous No.7047503]

>>7047496
why are you, a clueless /beg/, trying to perform stunts?

[Anonymous No.7047505]

>>7047503
practice

[Anonymous No.7047508]

>>7047505
being lazy and impatient isn't practice
take your time and copy it properly

[Anonymous No.7047509]

>>7047508
I thought you should do that to grow your working memory?

[Anonymous No.7047516]

>>7047509
that comes after doing an accurate copy first
trying to do a memory drawing with nothing in your memory is a waste of time

[Anonymous No.7047521]

> only 50 images so far
lately this thread has been very lazy.

sunday is for fun

>>7047342
Resting gesture is probably one of the toughest, your figure feels very tense, try to do the pose yourself, think about what you feel, which muscles are relaxed and which aren't (hint shoulders), also the effect of gravity is more noticeable in this kind of poses. In fuchsia is my humble attempt at how I would do it, I don't like to cover my face and I interlock my ankles. But fun illustration anon, great job.

>>7047421
I tried (cyan box)

[Anonymous No.7047527]

Thoughts guys?
I tried to make it look painterly but I feeI like ive gone way too far

[Anonymous No.7047534]

>>7047493
How dumb do you have to be to miss the obvious tongue-in-cheek humor of that post?

[Anonymous No.7047537]

>>7047501
is this going to be in the next /beg/ thread picture? i have a feeling it is.

[Blint !!dFi9y8xX0lX No.7047545]

>>7047537
I hope not

[Anonymous No.7047553]

>>7047527
cool background, the halftones and textures are really nice, but I think the character style clash with the bg, also they feel very flat in comparison with the bg.

[Anonymous No.7047560]

>>7047338
Then it means autistic grinding is you having fun with a pencil. You’re still drawing for fun. It just happens that fundie autism is what you enjoy.

Then when you’ve done enough fundie autism, you can autistically grind adding stuff into your visual library. Like rotating motorcycles in boxes or something. Then when you’ve done that with enough things, you’re basically KJG and you can draw whatever bullshit you can think of

[Anonymous No.7047564]

>>7047351
Anon. The term for your picrel is depression

[Anonymous No.7047573]

>>7047527
I like the ilumination feels like that moment in a cartoon movie where something emotional happens idk if im making some sense here.

Here is other draw of mine i did some time ago, i call it "life goes on"

[Anonymous No.7047578]

Hair is so fucking hard
Any tutorial recs?

[Anonymous No.7047580]

>>7047578
Bring up a bunch of photos of hair and try to reason it out for yourself.

[Anonymous No.7047584]

>>7046339
wip
Trying to get good at making clear character reference sheets while being obsessed with Kenshi atm. Any criticism is appreciated

[Anonymous No.7047585]

>>7047584
Has the one on the left been playing too much final fantasy recently?

[Anonymous No.7047588]

>>7047585
I’ve never played final fantasy but I see the resemblance oh god

[Anonymous No.7047604]

>>7047292
When you go from ‘looks bad’ to ‘feel demotivated’, make an effort to ask why does it look bad.
If you can do that for two or three iterations when you draw, you’ll get better and go places.

[Anonymous No.7047605]

>>7047292
Why do you get weirdly emotionally attached? It's not as if the thing you like knows or is damaged by a shitty drawing you fucking retard, it is still there

[Anonymous No.7047607]

>>7047605
If you don't get emotionally attached to the subjects, can you even call yourself an artist?

[Anonymous No.7047616]

>>7047421
My android wife...

[Anonymous No.7047646]

how can i replicate this kind of brushwork? very sharp edge and has some kind of outer strokes but not really

[Anonymous No.7047654]

Drawing shoes in perspective is hell on earth

[Anonymous No.7047659]

>>7047646
My guess it's just oversharpened in post-processing

[Anonymous No.7047670]

I'm gonna try and draw a woman with a really strong jaw like this

Have you guys ever drawn anyone with a concrete block of a jaw like her?

[Anonymous No.7047674]

>>7047670
Never draw an ugly person her, the crabs come out when they see ugly

[Anonymous No.7047678]

>>7046830
I'm scared of inking it, I don't want to ruin it

[Anonymous No.7047680]

>>7047121
With mouse or did you somehow hook a graphics tablet up to MS paint?

[Anonymous No.7047687]

How long is the initial gesture phase of a drawing suppose to take for an absolute beg?

[Anonymous No.7047690]

>>7047674
>the crabs
Crabs?

[Lucius No.7047691]

>>7047687
>practicing gesture
KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK anon don't waste your time. Bend the shoulders and hips, that's all you need to know

[Anonymous No.7047698]

How should I fill in the middle bit of the scythe? I’ve just been winging it with the metal shading. I think solid white on the very edge makes sense

[Anonymous No.7047704]

>>7047674
you got a point, now that I've drawn the jaw it is actually pretty damn ugly

I swear though, every time I use the Loomis method to do a 3/4 view the gap between the ear and the temple feels fucking HUGE. But I'm drawing the oval for the ear and side of the head to the centreline like this guide on YouTube.

https://youtu.be/8G4D9cKZ4Cs?t=299

Is the line in the middle of the oval too far back? All 3/4 views I've practiced have this and I don't know how come.

[Anonymous No.7047706]

>>7047704
Damn, if I had to make all that structure just to draw a head, I’d end it all

[Anonymous No.7047711]

>>7047704
>>7047706
Well it was mostly just to practice 3/4 view

Also I think I found the issue by drawing a loomis construction around a real life person's head. The eye closer to the viewer is too far from the temple I think.

Also the structure didn't really take much time, it was just a bunch of ellipse tools + line tools

[Anonymous No.7047729]

[Anonymous No.7047731]

>>7047729
can you draw her really smug?

[Anonymous No.7047732]

Decided to just do a copying pass and then I’ll do a memory/redrawing pass after, rather than doing a copy then memory version and then copy again before moving on to the next drawing. I think maybe the lag time between the copy and the memory drawing might be an import part in aiding retention, but i’m not sure. I also might do extra memory drawings of plates I find especially useful/important/appealing. I’m able to go faster now since just copying and analysis is much less taxing than the repeated memory drawings I was doing. So that’s fun.
>>7047704
>>7047711
You’ve gotta train observation like what Betty Edwards, keys to drawing, Proko, Eviston, krenz, etc. talk about. I liked the way Betty Edwards explained it in her book, really made it click for me. Then you can do studies and copy cool art and learn figure drawing and move on to doing this kind of construction stuff. You’re not feeling the form.

Train observation first so that you can draw what you see and not what you think you see. Then study construction and form. For me, it was Betty Edwards and then the first couple lessons of DrawABox and then Vilppu.
>>7047129
I recommend the same to you
>>7047064
Sick brah
>>7046928
That’s fucking metal
>>7046936
Not bad for imagination drawings. Make sure to do memory studies as well as copies. This makes the studies sink in deeper and become “yours” much faster.
>>7046810
>>7046812
Amazing!
>>7046769
Based, keep it up
>>7046369
>>7046345
Yo, these are awesome
>>7046370
Bridgman should only be done after you already have a decent understanding of anatomy, imo. Morpho simplified forms is great though
>>7046460
Looks good, a bit asymmetrical

[Anonymous No.7047737]

>>7047729
Dont know if this is bait or not, but here ya go

[Anonymous No.7047738]

>>7047732
Is the Betty Edwards one "Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain"?

[Anonymous No.7047740]

>>7047737
damn...
well at least it's better than my last take

[Anonymous No.7047743]

>>7047737
also quick coloring

[Anonymous No.7047747]

>>7047740
So this is your non troll art eh?
I expected more

[Anonymous No.7047749]

>>7047747
there is still much more to be done

[Anonymous No.7047758]

>>7047738
Yep!

[Anonymous No.7047760]

>>7047749
>>7047743
For you

[Anonymous No.7047761]

>>7047747
looks like im gonna have to keep working on accuracy, i was way off model and appeal

[Anonymous No.7047763]

>>7047761
its not just accuracy you dingus. you have a lot more than that to work on lol

[Anonymous No.7047764]

>>7047760
i shall post this in the shibuya rin general if you do not mind

[Anonymous No.7047766]

>>7047670
your average white woman

[Anonymous No.7047768]

Wait, Rin schizo can actually draw?

[Anonymous No.7047769]

>>7047763
>you have a lot more than that to work on lol
not sure if i know the answers but i'll have to figure it out myself

[Anonymous No.7047773]

>>7047768
Not really. Apparently only well enough to bastardize a Love Live character I occasionally fap to and not ask any further questions

[Anonymous No.7047775]

>>7047732
>only replies to other soulless "study" sketches in a void
what did be mean by this

[Anonymous No.7047780]

What is the logic behind copying bridgeman twice? What is actually being learnt?

[Anonymous No.7047782]

why did beg and int get joined together? i liked it better when beg was it's own thing and i could come in and mog for a ego boost.

[Anonymous No.7047783]

>>7047782
You can't just demoralise people for your own selfish gains

[Anonymous No.7047784]

>>7047737
>>7047747
>>7047760
Okay, now this is actually impressive. You somehow managed to keep the schizo's style and still make it look great . You waste your talent on this retard

[Anonymous No.7047785]

>>7047783
what else is this place for? there is genuinely nothing else to do here but to dunk on babies.

[Anonymous No.7047791]

Thanks for the advice. It’s done

[Anonymous No.7047795]

>>7047785
Pyw

[Anonymous No.7047800]

>>7047784
>schizo
>retard
>

[Anonymous No.7047806]

>>7047795
no. seethe and mald craboid.

[Anonymous No.7047807]

>>7047806
>no.
What a surprise.

[Anonymous No.7047810]

>>7047806
Not everyone wants to see you fail anon, my being one of them. Just let me see

[Anonymous No.7047811]

>>7047806
>I want to dunk on babies with my art
>w-what? You want me to show my art??? Are you t-t-trying to dunk on me?! Waaaaahh
Anon what is this?

[Anonymous No.7047812]

>>7047760
Why is she melting?

[Anonymous No.7047813]

Might be an odd question, but you know how video games have design documents, or tv shows usually have a bible? Is there something like that for comics?

[Anonymous No.7047817]

>>7047782
You remind me of the autistic neckbeard in my class back in highschool. He was a senior and all the kids in the later years knew what a pathetic, useless, annoying fag he was and never believed his lies and bragging. He'd always hang out with the freshmen and he'd tell them all these tall tales about how tough and badass he was and he'd practice all of his mallninja martial art moves on them to feel big. I don't think I've ever met anyone more pathetic.

[Anonymous No.7047819]

>>7047817
you are literally crying over this supposed
>autistic neckbeard
years after the fact? look in the mirror if you want to see a pathetic faggot.

[Anonymous No.7047821]

>>7047813
Of course. The watchmen edition I have has parts of the "design document" or whatever they called it included. It felt similar to a vidya design doc to me.

[Anonymous No.7047822]

>>7047817
And he still lives rent-free in your head? Damn.

[Anonymous No.7047824]

>>7047817
did he fuck your crush or something? why is he rentfree in you head still?

[Anonymous No.7047825]

>>7047819
>>7047822
Samefag

[Anonymous No.7047826]

>>7047825
btfo schizofag.

[Anonymous No.7047828]

>>7047826
Ah shit

[Anonymous No.7047829]

>>7047825
Ok retard

[Anonymous No.7047832]

>>7047821
I'll see if I can find it. I'm just not sure if it has a particular name that's used in the industry. I did get some results for looking up a bible, so maybe it's just that.

[Anonymous No.7047833]

>>7047819
>>7047822
>>7047824
I'm sorry I'm just reminded of the guy a lot because he was exactly what the average 4chan poster is like but irl

[Anonymous No.7047834]

>>7047833
the fact you think about 4chan when you aren't here shitposting is a lot more alarming than the autistic loser. ngmi im afraid.

[Anonymous No.7047838]

>>7047825
>>7047825
It's not a proof and you know it.

[Anonymous No.7047839]

>>7047838
Except it took you 10 minutes longer than me and the other anon

[Anonymous No.7047842]

>>7047838
>>7047839
this so much wtf...

[Anonymous No.7047843]

>>7047834
Shit reading comprehension, I'm saying that when I'm on 4chan I'm often reminded of this one irl lolcow guy I met irl.

[Anonymous No.7047845]

>>7047843
again why are you obsessed with him? you keep dodging the question. do you want him to fuck you or something? faggot ass dude fr...

[Anonymous No.7047846]

>>7047842
Yeah it's so hard to believe that 2 people at the same time would disagree with a schizo

[Anonymous No.7047847]

>>7047826
>>7047828
>>7047829
>>7047833
>>7047834
>>7047838
>>7047839
>>7047842
>>7047843
I regret bringing up some autist from my highschools years, I'm very sorry.

Can we please stop derailing the thread now

[Anonymous No.7047850]

>>7047839
???
99% of that time was screenshotting. The other 1% right clicking and writing a " (You)".
No wonder people cannot learn anything on IC if that kinda task takes you 10 minutes.

[Anonymous No.7047851]

>>7047847
>>7047850
>the absolute state of /ic/
it's so over for you bros.

[Anonymous No.7047854]

Are the samefags in the room with us?

[Anonymous No.7047855]

someone post your work already. save us aiiiieeeee-

[Anonymous No.7047860]

How would loomis deal with samefags?

[Anonymous No.7047861]

>>7047860
he wouldn't. in his day you only had face to face interactions so the people who wouldn't be able to get over themselves and act normal would just be in an asylum. today the internet allows for anonymity which for some reason tempts people into indulging their inner niggerfaggot.

[Anonymous No.7047911]

>>7047545
Lmao go back to posting your t2 manface and spamming /gif/ blacked threads

[Anonymous No.7047935]

instant improvement (instant)

[Anonymous No.7047946]

yeah i mean
it just works

[Anonymous No.7047976]

[Anonymous No.7047978]

[Anonymous No.7048083]

Is there a particular reason people recommend Loomis so much over others? Personally, I found Michael Hampton and Steve Huston much easier to understand with how they break down the facial planes and their methods felt more immediately applicable. Loomis felt almost impenetrable when I tried his book because of how much of an understanding of form it seemed to require.

[Anonymous No.7048085]

>>7047812
I think she's sweating anon

[Anonymous No.7048089]

I didn’t draw for this thread and I won’t draw in the next one, either.

[Anonymous No.7048091]

>>7047800
What did he mean by this? I'm not the doodle anon, don't think the guy giving him the redraws to him is the same guy either

[Anonymous No.7048094]

[Anonymous No.7048101]

color monday, yellows are tough, I don't like the end result.

>>7047646
look for speedpaintings of that artist. it can be a combination of multiple things:
-brush sharpness
-brush set in multiply or overlay mode
-brush texture
-perlin noise

the hair looks done with some kind of watercolor brush using a multiply blending, the shadows look done using a textured hard brush and to break monotony everything is overlayed with monochromatic noise.


>>7048083
legacy probably, I don't like fwap I feel that loomis construction framework is a begtrap, it may make sense once you have a really grasp of depth, boxes do a better job in this regard, I like huston's LTL method.

[Anonymous No.7048144]

more inking practice

[Blint !!dFi9y8xX0lX No.7048151]

we all gotta start somewhere

[Anonymous No.7048163]

I am once again feeling retarded for not being able to draw a simple pose

[Anonymous No.7048179]

feel free to repost your art if you posted close to the end of thread. just kill the shitposters who dont draw and only make drama

>>7048175
>>7048175
>>7048175
>>7048175
>>7048175

[Marielx !Vidya4T.Xo No.7048244]

>>7047521
I see, i must consider gravity on my stuff, thank you for the feedback as well.

[Anonymous No.7048801]

>>7046812
Dialog:

"Wait.. it's ALL wars for Israel!"
"It always was.."
BAM!!

[Anonymous No.7049335]

>>7047646
>some kind of outer strokes but not really
sharpening filter

[Anonymous No.7049361]

>>7047292
just YOLO it