/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.7044822]

Holy shit you can get good in hundred days if youre rich and dont have a job??? Ill just do that

[Anonymous No.7044826]

>>7044822
He spent 10 minutes to 1 hour a day dumbass

[Anonymous No.7044829]

>>7044822
love how he mogs all the retards on asg

[Anonymous No.7044831]

most good artists are rich?
listen to yourself

[Anonymous No.7044833]

>FB_IMG
ngmi

[Anonymous No.7044836]

>>7044826
>you just have to have the GENE
Useful advice

[Anonymous No.7044837]

>>7044822
that!!! is!!!! it!!!! no more asg!!!! i am just going to open up my dragonball books and fucking draw every pose and panel until i can draw!!!

[Anonymous No.7044843]

Draw from memory
Draw from memory
Draw from memory
Fucking draw from memory

[Anonymous No.7044844]

>>7044836
You don't need special genes to learn to copy anime heads

[Anonymous No.7044847]

>another eceleb thread this week
We getting raided?

[Anonymous No.7044857]

I knew a professional artist who did science fiction and fantasy book covers, and she said to turn pro requires "a penis and a paycheck",ie outside financial and emotional support. And in her case it was true:her boyfriend both worked and kept house so she could grind away for 16+ hours a day.

[Anonymous No.7044858]

>>7044844
>rich, handsome, can draw anime after 3 months of practice
>its not about genes
Why do you like giving people false hope? Is this an elborate plan to troll me into killing myself?

[Anonymous No.7044862]

>>7044857
So if i become gay and get a sugar daddy i can become a real artist? ... i will do what it takes

[Anonymous No.7044870]

>>7044858
pewdiepie is also a known liar who shilled games for pay, why do people think these ecelebs are honest?

[Anonymous No.7044878]

>>7044822
Kys permabeg

[Anonymous No.7044881]

>>7044822
How did he come up to that eye shape? when I drew anime eyes I always fucked up the other eye...
Who's is he copying here?

[Anonymous No.7044883]

>>7044881
bottom left is similar to redjuice's style, but it's not his art

[Anonymous No.7044885]

>>7044837
This but unironically

[Anonymous No.7044892]

>>7044822
lol stop coping and git gud it's not that complicated

[Anonymous No.7044898]

>>7044822
also if you watch the video closely you can catch a few glimpses of loomis-style potatokin. he clearly spat out the loomispill and just drew (what he liked).

[Anonymous No.7044901]

>>7044822
anyone can do this if they actually draw, he's only doing what natural.

[Anonymous No.7044906]

>>7044822
he went to the bookstore and bought 描き方の本

[Anonymous No.7044966]

>>7044898
>he clearly spat out the loomispill
Except the video shows him using the loomis method to draw both of those bottom pictures in the OP

[Anonymous No.7044993]

>>7044966
the method you're referring to is just a way to maintain the proportion of the facial anatomy. loomis' specific method of building the face out of forms isn't applying to anything pewds showed in his video, except for a few studies where he clearly tried to divide the loomis ball-head and decided to just copy something else.

[Anonymous No.7045027]

>1000 posts and counting

[Anonymous No.7045029]

>>7045027
being shown how just drawing makes you better has buck broken millions

[Anonymous No.7045030]

>>7044822
>"don't have a job"
LMAO AT WAGE SLAVES THINKING WHAT THEY HAVE IS A JOB HOLY SHIT. GET BACK IN THE WAGIE CAGE LITTLE RAT AND MAYBE IF YOU ARE GOOD BOY THE BOSS WILL LET YOU LICK HIS PRECUM.

I'm a wage slave btw.

[Anonymous No.7045033]

>>7044822
I'm more impressed by his coloring than by his drawings
maybe I should get some of those copic markers people keep talking about

[Anonymous No.7045034]

>>7044822
I'm not rich and have a job. I can draw and surely I'm not the only one in the entire planet

[Anonymous No.7045035]

>yet another flavor of the week shitposting bait thread
the absolute state of shitposters

[Anonymous No.7045037]

To anyone screeching about Pewdiepie being able to draw and improve solely because he is rich, handsome and popular, I tell you:

If you were rich, handsome and popular, you wouldnt be drawing even if you could. Dont fool yourself.

[Anonymous No.7045043]

So if all his drawings are just copies of other peoples work, does that mean if I can copy his drawings /ic/ will ride MY dick too?

[Anonymous No.7045044]

>>7045043
Are you an e-celeb zoomers grew up watching and is in a parasocial relationship with

[Anonymous No.7045049]

>>7044822
It shows the power of focused practice if anything

[Anonymous No.7045052]

>>7045043
probably but you wont do it so why are we entertaining this impossibility?

[Anonymous No.7045188]

>>7044822
Because he is not really a beginner because he has been drawing since before he began his youtube career.

[Anonymous No.7045315]

>>7044822
you can make some shitty anime trash. the coloring is only impressive part. max rendering and you can hide most flaws is what you should be learning from this. eventually, he'll be able to trace like a true jap and wont have to worry about the flaws.

[Anonymous No.7045328]

>>7045188
is ic full of people that didnt draw when they were kids? you can see his before fucking idiot, are most people here worse than the drawing pewds showed on day 1? fuck are you saying

[Anonymous No.7045330]

>>7044822
>>7044826
all he do is 3/4 headshots, I would improve the same even in much less time if I just do just that but I'm not drawing for clickbait content to impress casuals

[Anonymous No.7045334]

>>7044822
That's good news for most of this board, they're already halfway there.

[Anonymous No.7045351]

>>7045315
do you have the rest of this tutorial? Or is this a single page work?

[Anonymous No.7045367]

>>7044822
>git gud at drawing the same thing by drawing it 100 times
Impressive. :)

[Anonymous No.7045372]

>>7045330
Literally 90% of people here wanna just draw anime girls, it's the ultimate beg trap not clickbait

[Anonymous No.7045423]

>>7045328
Sakimichan's earnings went viral a few years ago which caused an influx of newfags who are day 1 beginners

[Anonymous No.7045427]

>>7045423
Surely they drew before Sakimichan was even a thing, no?

[Anonymous No.7045430]

>>7045037
You speak the truth

Also there isn't enough drawing in this thread.

[Anonymous No.7045435]

>he actually draws
>gets better in three months
>/ic/ argue about methods and training regimes 24/7
>can't draw after years
Its funny because he doing it the simplest way possible while anons here grind fucking boxes all day, if they put pen to paper in the first place.

[Anonymous No.7045444]

>>7045435
People have been making fun of grinding boxes for a while now

[Anonymous No.7045490]

>>7045423
sakimichan is old news, its highly possible that these ipad zoomers really didnt draw when they were kids
which surprises me every kid i knew drew, they just didnt keep drawing

[Anonymous No.7045502]

>>7044822
You dont have to be rich to draw good.
You just have to find the time to do it and dedicate to it.
In some months you are gonna go from not being able to draw, to drawing somewhat good, and then in a year or so, to really good.
Its just dedication, and loving what you do.
Its that easy.
So idk, what you are on about, whit the, "You need to be rich to draw good" thing there OP.

[Anonymous No.7045506]

>artists start reacting to pewds drawing
I hate current yt

[Anonymous No.7045510]

>>7045506
>ever thinking that jewtubers wouldn't jump on this
gotta get dem views

[Anonymous No.7045527]

>>7045506
watch non american artists or older ones

[Anonymous No.7045615]

>>7044862
No,"penis"= emotional support. Having your own just means you don't need another to provide it. And a paycheck enables you to have time to pursue art.

She needed a decade to make her first commission with a guy providing both. I am still scrambling to find my own time for my own art.

[Anonymous No.7045664]

>>7045328
>you can see his before fucking idiot
The only idiot here is you since you clearly do not understand the difference between picking up a new skill and reclaiming the old one. Of course he can progress fast, he has experience, knows how to do it. His drawing skill just got a bit rusty hence those scribbles he did at the beginning.

[Anonymous No.7045747]

>>7044822
pewds making ic permabeg schizos seethe is too funny

[Anonymous No.7045748]

>>7045664
shut up you stupid incompetent piece of shit, go fucking paint a wall for some money

[Anonymous No.7045750]

>>7045747
stop saying the word seethe you old fart
take a look around you and notice nobody else is saying that word anymore it isn’t 2022

[Anonymous No.7045751]

>>7044822
Watch him become good enough to start selling original art for high amounts of cash

[Anonymous No.7045763]

>>7044822
oh wow, that's not too bad even if it's heavily referenced. what's his routine looking like? he's just drawing stuff from reference for an hour a day or what? I don't really care to actually take a look but this is nice, there's hope for ngmi anons

[Anonymous No.7045789]

>>7044826
He's living in Japan.
Magic dirt is real.

[Anonymous No.7045793]

He's drawing by copying references he generated with ai. Not saying its not impressive it is especially compared to the vast majority of permabegs. I dont know if I believe the 10 minutes a day claim it took me around 6 months to make the kind of progress he did and I draw for multiple hours some days. Good for him though.

[Anonymous No.7045796]

>>7045037
Cute.

[Anonymous No.7045823]

>>7044993
If he's doing anime heads he's using a simplified Loomis method. Japs love Loomis.

[Anonymous No.7045881]

>>7044822
now lets see him draw purely from imagination with no refs and a random subject picked by me

>optimus prime in full detail doing gang signs with both hands in view and overhead lightning

[Anonymous No.7045912]

>>7045881
Even the Japanese use refs for their work

[Anonymous No.7045960]

>>7045912
Draw from imagination the best perma beg trap

[Anonymous No.7045971]

>>7045037
I started drawing because of pewdiepies video, I'm like 3 days in. This is my mcdonalds girl. I thought it looked good, but then I flipped the photo in paint...
It feels like an insult to her cuteness. I'll have to do a better one next week. I also want to do her in different poses, like pulling her eyelid down and sticking her tongue out.

[Anonymous No.7045978]

>>7045960
Is it? Loomis recommends you do it on his books

[Anonymous No.7045985]

I keep seeing posts about how pewdiepie inspired them to start drawing but we need more people to become prompters because AI is the future

[Anonymous No.7045992]

why are people getting mad or trying to discredit the video its pretty pathetic tbqh
>>7045985
kys

[Anonymous No.7045994]

>>7045037

[Anonymous No.7046004]

>>7045750
keep seething

[Anonymous No.7046010]

/ic/isters.../pol/ is laughing at us again.
>>>/pol/457509462

[Anonymous No.7046016]

>>7044857
She is right. You need to have someone supporting you while you work otherwise there is no way you could improve in that amount of time.

[Anonymous No.7046017]

>>7046010
Maybe you should fuck off back there.

[Anonymous No.7046018]

>>7046010
>/pol/
don't you have blacked porn to secretly jerk off to?

[Anonymous No.7046019]

Will we see more prompters or drawers in the upcoming years

[Anonymous No.7046032]

will /asg/ stop being a laughing stock

[Anonymous No.7046185]

>>7044857
god i hate women so much

[Anonymous No.7046186]

>>7045750
holy fucking newfag
don't you have school tomorrow? go to bed you little tyke

[Anonymous No.7046238]

>>7044822
Pewds made art as a side job before he was doing youtube lol

[Anonymous No.7046287]

this thread has made me confused on if copying ref is a bad thing or not

[Anonymous No.7046300]

>>7044822
>live in a socialist utopia
>the government gives me enough money to survive
>never have to work in my whole life if I don't want to
>all the free time I could ever ask for
>spend it all on video games and shitposting
I'm living life in easy mode and still losing

[Anonymous No.7046312]

>>7046010
>/pol/
I'm especially laughing at you

[Anonymous No.7046323]

>>7045978
He also recommends to draw from life

[Anonymous No.7046432]

>>7045971
stick out your tongue for the rizzler, you're so skibiddi

[Anonymous No.7046442]

>>7044822
PoopiePee is the biggest liar and grifter on the internet. Please kys.
>>7046300
A socialist utopia doesn't exist in our current time. You're losing because "money to survive" is not enough to live. Also because capitalist society gave you depression.

[Anonymous No.7046668]

>>7045423
and it's funny that hews don't even earn 30kusd a year despite all the clout he's generating

[Anonymous No.7046682]

>>7044857
>>7046016
I did it without either by sacrificing nearly every other aspect of my life.
I do not recommend.

[Anonymous No.7046696]

>>7046442
>"money to survive" is not enough to live.
I really don't know why I'd need more money. I'm sure I'd think of some way to spend it if I had it, could always upgrade the GPU I guess, but there's seriously nothing I'm stressed about not being able to afford.

[Anonymous No.7046780]

>>7044822
why is /ic/ plagued with bait posts like this

like we all know that pewdiepie is rich and has a good work ethic. It doesn't surprise me that he draws. Like he was a mechanical engineer in stokholm

[Anonymous No.7046783]

>>7044822
maybe the message here is that you should get a job and draw for fun instead of trying to live off it
it's probably what makes so many people in this board permanently depressed

[Anonymous No.7046784]

>>7046238
That’s true. Pewds is obviously just having fun with people if he’s claiming he improved that much in a month. It’s not bad to make people think good drawing and practice habits will give you art gains though.

[Anonymous No.7046786]

>>7046780
4chan in general is poorly moderated

[Anonymous No.7046819]

>>7046786
i came here to draw but after the whole ai bait posts and now pewdiepie dominating the catalog i have come to the conclusion that no one in /ic/ draws seriously and those that have the skill to make it, get out

the generals are nice i guess

[Anonymous No.7046860]

>>7046819
I agree. It's baffling that pewd's generic anime copies are what's giving this board an existential crisis. Look, an insipid youtuber drew some bog standard beg crap oh no we're never going to make it. Pathetic.

[Anonymous No.7047183]

tell me he uses refs and it's not from mind? otherwise suicide fuel

anyway I gave up drawing long time ago, I sometimes get asked to do small project but fucking hate it, it pays like piss for the work poured in

[Anonymous No.7047257]

>>7046819
For me I think it's all Pareto Principle. Like a small fraction of really mentally ill users probably make most of the drama and bait trash threads that populate the catalog, and end up making a name for themselves because of how insufferable, mentally ill and recognizable they are. Like Howie, Tripfag, Mikufag and Cris, to mention a few. Not to mention they are the kind of users that never improve since they would rather spend all their time making drama or shitposting.

Meanwhile most of the userbase is just normal, draws, gives and receives criticism in the generals, and wonder what the fuck is wrong with these people

[Anonymous No.7047313]

>>7047183
He did. The green hair girl, and the red one exhibit patterns of AI hair. for example, hair strands flowing behind larger chunks, not following the path/curve they were on, reemerging on the other side as if it was cut off.
Deceptive not mentioning it. But not not a crime to copy. May result in reliance on AI to keep up appearances, May stifle in the long run. At worst, may even cause you to quit drawing once the thrill of people thinking you are better than you are in reality wears off. Better to have art heroes you look up to that you strive to reach... real people are inspiring. He is inspired by fujimoto though, I know this board is a big fan of his art!

[Anonymous No.7047319]

>>7046783
>draw for fun instead of trying to live off it
it's this. the board is full of fucktards who think their generic anime scribbles are the key to working from home fore 6 figures. be passionate but be realistic.

[Anonymous No.7047431]

>>7044826
> implying he doesn't study offscreen
You think someone on the internet would like that?

[Anonymous No.7047531]

>>7044822
>you can get good in hundred days if you
If you watch the right video course(s) till the end and draw right after instead of hoarding.
>>7045030
Lol I feel the same way fellow wagecuck.
>>7044857
>>7046682
You can use the "4 burners theory" and get ride of friends, family, your job, netflix, video games, music, etc and focus 100% on art.

[Anonymous No.7047561]

>>7047531
who's that and was that 100 days? if so that's better than pewdiepie's progress by an order of magnitude.

[Anonymous No.7047589]

>>7047313
>Deceptive not mentioning it.
he not only admits to it but shows himself doing it with a page of csm on his phone copying kobeni you retard

why has a video of someone else improving shattered so many autistic anuses here and on twitter maybe instead of being a retarded permabeg crab you should be happy for someone else getting better and take inspiration AND JUST FUCKING DRAW

[Anonymous No.7047592]

>>7046819
Everyone who actually draws is too busy drawing to post. Only people who post are permabegs, crabs, schizos, and no-draws

[Anonymous No.7047595]

>>7047589
>he not only admits to it but shows himself doing it with a page of csm on his phone copying kobeni you retard
Work on your reading comprehension. I said he copied AI and was deceptive for not mentioning that.

[Anonymous No.7047596]

>>7047595
A lot of beginners can't actually tell the difference so I wouldn't be surprised if he just doesnt know

[Anonymous No.7047598]

>>7047589
to a non autistic braindead stupid fucking dipshit it should be motivating, shows that you really can improve if you just put in time

[Anonymous No.7047627]

>>7044822
Most famous Japanese artists are not self-taught. They had teachers. Below is a 76 old Japanese art instructor named Harumichi Shibasaki (柴崎春通) and being the son of a farmer in 1947, he had no time to learn art on his own and therefore, he studied under painters, Hiroshi Nakane and Taro Obi. Instead of imitating PewDiePie, you guys should seek out art teachers who enjoy teaching like Harumichi Shibasaki did back in 1965.

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%9F%B4%E5%B4%8E%E6%98%A5%E9%80%9A

[Eng sub] 5min Easy Watercolor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_Bl7JXQUTg

[Eng sub] How to draw a girl's face with Pentel crayons / for beginners: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bavupl5eqqE

[Eng sub] Draw cool tanks with just one pencil: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mepQdfV-UU

[Anonymous No.7047639]

>>7047595
Deception requires intent so that still wouldn't fit.

[Anonymous No.7047641]

>>7047639
intent to hide the fact he copied AI because it's a hot button issue, is intent. His intent is to remain comfortable. If he felt comfortable sharing that he used it, he would have.

[Anonymous No.7047664]

>>7047627
Some mangaka and animators come to mind.
Nobuteru Yuuki did not attend art school before joining the anime industry. He worked at an insurance company after high school before changing careers.
Hayao Miyazaki didn't, he studied economics.
Naoki Urasawa didn't either, he studied...economics. (Miyazaki said economics let him get away with doing the least work. Maybe the two were on to something.)
Shuuhei Handa was a factory worker before he sent in his sketchbook to Gainax at age 24 and changed careers.


As far as the animators mentioned above, you may argue and say that they learned the trade properly under senior animators once they properly joined the industry. But by the time they enlisted, it's very likely they were already semi-competent draftsmen; animation has more rigorous demands on one's skill than traditional illustration or manga.

[Anonymous No.7047683]

Pewdiepie is Swedish btw
Swedes are basically a powerful god race that came down to earth to party and got fuck ass high on mushrooms and alcohol and shit and simply forgot they were gods
It's really not surprising that very very few of you can ever even hope to match a fraction of his power

[Anonymous No.7047720]

>>7047641
You don't even know if the references are AI, let alone if he knows, so you can't establish intent.

[Anonymous No.7047728]

>>7044822
tranime "artstyle" isn't art

[Anonymous No.7047730]

>>7044837
This but unironically

[Anonymous No.7047757]

>>7047683
Sorry! Untrue!
You're clearly describing the Netherlands and the party culture we have here!

[Anonymous No.7047767]

>>7047720
Nobody has found the reference to these images(red and green hair in particular), if they were from an artist, given the millions of views, someone would have picked up on who he referenced by now. The hair is the biggest tell because of the nonsensical beginnings and ends to the hair strands(very common in AI). Given all the other factors, his sketches just prior, the style(he's studying chainsaw man a lot but his best images look like Stable Diffusion orangemix?), the choice to make the hair glow from behind like almost every singe AI image... Occam's razor dude.

None of what I am saying has anything to do with crabs or permabegs(I'm very anticrab and help anons all the time with paintovers and genuine advice), it's just my observation of the artwork/situation.

[Anonymous No.7047778]

>>7047767
Sure, I actually agree that they look like AI references, but I disagree that there was anything deceptive about the video where he talks about it.

[Anonymous No.7047781]

>>7047778
Right. I didn't hear him mention using AI, omitting mentioning it, while it's sort of an "Art crime" in a lot of art spaces right now was a kind of deception.
I think being more transparent when showing your art journey is better, but I can understand wanting to hide it too if you might get pushback for your methods.

[Anonymous No.7047790]

>I cant draw for 10 minutes a day every day for 100 days
better ask artists how to draw for that one weird trick that'll make me good instantly

[Anonymous No.7047792]

Explain to me what's wrong with taking random AI garbage and using it as a reference
We all agreed many years ago at the great council that copying bits and pieces from here and there and borrowing ideas and copying by eye from photographs and so on is legit stealing
Copying from a scrap of AI proomptslop and changing what you want is basically doing all that but skipping some of the steps

[Anonymous No.7047798]

>>7047792
Nothing especially wrong, could be a bit weird if you say or imply it's your image or your style though. if you use it as ref for images you present as not mere practice, but your expression, it could lead to living a lie, only able to express "your" style when you have the AI on hand...
I was just posting about it because there was some doubt that he used AI though, I think using it for practice is fine in moderation.

[Anonymous No.7047802]

>>7047781
Again I have to disagree. It's not deception because we don't know if he knows that they are AI, and even if he knows he is under no obligation to disclose that.

[Anonymous No.7047803]

>>7047781
Judging by the beg-tier messy lines I wouldn't be surprised if he just traced AI. Not even copying it.
>>7047792
What's wrong is that the spirit is dying. In a world where generated slop is everywhere and everyone uses this slop as reference for their "art", creativity and spirit will be dead. Because machines are not alive, they do not have intent, what they output is meaningless. The lost touch of life will kill life. Generative AI is the weapon of its evil masters.

[Anonymous No.7047809]

>>7047802
>don't know if he knows that they are AI, and even if he knows he is under no obligation to disclose that.
If I'm going to take his art home for the night I want to be informed beforehand so I can reject it, not get a little(big) surprise when I get real close... wait what were we talking about again?

[Anonymous No.7047816]

>>7047790
For me it's either 16h a day for 3 days in a row or nothing at all for weeks to come.

[Anonymous No.7047823]

>>7047728

[Anonymous No.7047836]

>>7047641
i cannot imagine being so fucking assblasted over this that you have video evidence of this swigger putting pen to actual paper and actually being like "um actually it's AI nobody is that good" holy fucking shit i am laffin

[Anonymous No.7047857]

>>7047836
I understand confusing me for an assblasted beg. in a thread of begs being ass blasted, me commenting on the use of AI could appear like I'm trying to discredit all his efforts, I'm not really. It's kind of lying by omission, but I'm not too fussed anymore, I've said my piece.

[Anonymous No.7047859]

>>7047857
there is no evidence of AI anywhere in those videos and you are an assblasted permabeg if you think otherwise. i guarantee you're in like 3 twitter threads and a tumblr quote chain trying to hunt down a 1:1 image of the red haired girl instead of just accepting that he referenced something and changed a few things with the day 84 skills he already had. pyw or you're going to trip and fall on your hands.

[Anonymous No.7047869]

>>7047823
Can you make a graph like this that p plots the frequency of ‘pyw’ and ‘crab’ on /ic/. I feel like those memewords have become more common in recent years. People just use them to disregard all criticism

[Anonymous No.7047873]

>good in hundred days if youre rich and dont have a job
pewds is in his mid thirties, if that isn't a problem to you then yes this is literally what all hobbyists do

[Anonymous No.7047897]

>>7045971
>>7046432
It would be funny if you two weren't two obese 35 year old men

[Anonymous No.7047909]

>>7047859
>trying to hunt down a 1:1 image of the red haired girl
? If he generated it on his pc, there would be nothing to hunt down. the evidence to me was in the many ways his work is like common AI images, rather than common beginner images. I really am happy for pewdiepie's progress, genuinely. My general antiAI posting habits kind of just got in the way here I guess. Could I be jumping at shadows? I lean toward no, given my experience, but I'd be happy to be shown otherwise too.
>pyw
alright

[pssst >>7045881 anon, I chose this just because]

[Anonymous No.7047915]

>>7044837
literally how mangakas learn

[Anonymous No.7047927]

>>7044822
>waah the nigga with the wife and kids has time to draw but somehow I can't squeeze an hour in after my 9-5/neet lifestyle
ngmi, you didn't wanna draw anyways so just leave the board and stop making these shitty threads.

[Anonymous No.7047930]

>>7046780
He was an industrial economy student in Gothenburg, found it boring and tried to go for youtube instead.

I think that he has a fair bit of experience from photoshopping images, I remember him saying it was a hobby for him, so that skill might transfer over to drawing.

[Anonymous No.7047937]

>>7047909
I can't find this image ANYWHERE... anon what prompt did you use?

[Anonymous No.7047938]

>>7047915
Doesn’t work for /asg/

[Anonymous No.7047943]

>>7047937
Why would you want to be link to this shithole, are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.7047944]

>>7047943
So you are a proompter, got it. No wonder you're so brain blasted you can somehow watch someone actually touching pencil to paper and still try to claim it's AI, wow. Now again. What prompt?

[Anonymous No.7047945]

>>7047937
My prompt was
>"open photoshop, sketch, paint, resize the head I drew too big, paint some more"

[Anonymous No.7047948]

>>7047945
kinda wild people will "paint" in photoshop for two hours and greeble with the lasso tool and ctrl+z until they RNG a simple stack of boxes using 44 different reference pics to guess at angles and still think they are legally allowed an opinion about even the /beg/iest of /beg/s who draw on paper

[Anonymous No.7047950]

>>7047944
Not him you retarded fuck.

[Anonymous No.7047952]

>>7047944
different anon.

I thought you were joking about the prompt though, as a sort of throwing back the accusation for kicks. I didn't use AI, I don't even think AI can do a bloods gang sign.

[Anonymous No.7047954]

>>7047950
Don't care. Why would you think I would? And I'm not that guy either, so.

[Anonymous No.7047959]

>>7047952
>I didn't use AI
I'm gonna go ahead and call it and say you did. The hands are a dead giveaway anyway, regardless of how you Shadiversity'd them.

[Anonymous No.7047962]

>>7047948
Humans are literally incapable of randomness, while machine is incapable of creativity but capable of randomness.
If you draw to figure out what exactly you will do, you're doing along certain potential dimensions, getting ideas, deciding stuff between ideas, while machine will just backwards copy 888 random images with the right tags.
Also you just contradicted yourself by using rng and references arguments together.

Anyway, the most important thing in art is intent, for which you cannot get enough rolls with ai.

[Anonymous No.7047963]

>>7047952
Show the files, so >>7047959 can back out like the rest of em.

[Anonymous No.7047965]

>>7047948
I only used the lasso once to shrink the head. don't really use undo unless I am doing fine line art, I just paint over any mistakes doing this style. what do you mean by RNG?

>>7047959
>The hands are a dead giveaway anyway
I can't tell who's making jokes and who is serious...
that the the bloods gang sign, you never tried to do that one in elementary school?

>>7047963
He'll just claim AI anyway.

[Anonymous No.7047966]

>>7047962
one machines aren't random two your cope reeks because you got called out three it's not a contradiction because even your robot image shows evidence of you using every tool PS has to offer to make up for your lack of skill so yes you RNG'd from a bunch of references just slapping random shit into a picture plane and rendering until you convinced yourself "i am arteeste." from that sad attempt at an image i can see why your ass is blistered over anything AI, you are the person it replaced. not too late to get some real tools, anon. pencils real cheap nowadays.
>>7047963
he will but he'll collapse every pathetic layer instead of giving us the 9001 he sweated over for hours

[Anonymous No.7047968]

>>7047965
The hands are a giveaway because you obviously just stretched them into the pattern you wanted instead of drawing them that way lmao.

[Anonymous No.7047969]

>>7044822
>hes talented
>he drew as a kid
>hes rich and has all the time to study
>he was studying industry in college
>hes just copying pictures
>hes copying ai
lmao, this is what happens when you don't segregate the special educated students from the regular students

[Anonymous No.7047971]

>>7047965
>what do you mean by RNG?
you don't know what you're drawing and can't draw, you just photobash off ref with the most powerful tools available and undo-redo-shrink-enlarge-rotate randomly until it "looks good enough." pen paper now or stfu.

[Anonymous No.7047977]

>>7047968
>The hands are a giveaway because you obviously just stretched them into the pattern you wanted instead of drawing them that way lmao.
Some fingers look stretched to get the letters and I didn't go back to fix them, I can see those look crappy.
>>7047971
Painting has really fallen out of favor on this board it breaks anons minds when someone can paint some cubes? lol. This took almost no tools, mostly just a square brush on one layer above a sketch.

[Anonymous No.7047979]

>>7047977
I think they're just trolling you.

[Anonymous No.7048011]

i'm more impressed by his coloring. has he mentioned what video/tutorial he watched?

[Anonymous No.7048014]

>>7048011
quite literally just limit your color palette

[Anonymous No.7048017]

>>7047823
It's artificial and obvious since anime is the last art style that focus on cute and beauty, just by existing it throws shit at ugliness and the evil that spreads it.

Evil is ugly

[Anonymous No.7048021]

>>7044822
At first, I thought this was some bullshit. But I started practicing just like him for like an hour a day and was surprised that I can actually draw something after a week.
Sure it looks like shit, but for me, it was like holy shit, I can actually draw something resembling a human face and not just a bunch of poorly drawn circles and lines.

[Anonymous No.7048022]

>>7048021
Every book and artist tells to draw from life or with reference as much as you can for a reason

[Anonymous No.7048027]

>>7045789
This, unironically. Some places in the world have an inescapable atmosphere of oppression and despair.

[Anonymous No.7048097]

>>7047909
very nice picture, however, I said DRAW, not paint. So I win.

[Anonymous No.7048135]

>>7047930
pewdiepie has a afinity for the arts but it wouldn't surprise me if he be into mech shit that's surprising.

[Anonymous No.7048138]

>>7044822
aryan IQ 165 learns drawing anime with 10 mins a day training and mogs all the fags and swarthoids on this board lmao

[Anonymous No.7048160]

>pewds did some shitty graphic design work in photoshop 10 years ago
>fags will latch onto it as for the reason why he improved so fast
the cope is tasty

[Anonymous No.7048164]

>>7048160
That would be one of the reasons, no

[Anonymous No.7048166]

>>7048097

[Anonymous No.7048168]

>>7048160
people will reach for anything to cope
even when they have video evidence of how progress was made

[Anonymous No.7048171]

>>7048166
kek, based anon. thank you for cheering me up

[Anonymous No.7048173]

You faggots are actually starting to claim that he is either using elements of Ai or just straight copying off Ai? Every passing day becomes more difficult not to like Pewds, still not giving you view counts though I don't care how many shills you send here.

[Anonymous No.7048181]

>>7048173
What would be the problem of using that to learn?

[Anonymous No.7048183]

>>7048166
based mecha deliver

[Anonymous No.7048185]

>>7048181
Zero problem, it's just more well poisoning from those who got butthurt and will latch onto anything that'll help under mind their lack of improvement.
>He used Ai!
>He got help from Ai!
>He copied from Ai!
>The Ai told him how to draw!
etc, etc, etc.

[Anonymous No.7048186]

>>7048185
But what if he did, would just saying that be butthurt or just saying that as it were

[Anonymous No.7048196]

>>7048186
If he did use Ai what's the difference between using a reference from an "actual" artist? Oh right, Pewds wouldn't risk sticking his neck out from referencing off an actual artist since Pewds is monetizing off viewcounts by providing content off drawing anime heads. It's no coincidence that Pewds started to draw when after Ai has advanced so much, I believe that is partly the reason why nobody has come out of the woodwork and go on a tirade about how Pewds is an art thief for not giving credit or shout outs to the totally original drawing that no one's ever drawn before except for that one special snowflake.

[Anonymous No.7048197]

>>7048173
just copying >>7047781
all the haircuts have triangle gaps to show the eyebrows, and thicker lines to show the top of the bangs where the side bangs come from. The head and face proportions and expressions are the same too, despite his sketch practice involving expressions. Do you not think this points to copying AI?
>>7048186
we can't say we think he did or that's butthurt. thems the rules. my butt only tingles, it doesn't really hurt, I should get up and move around.

[Anonymous No.7048199]

>>7048196
>>7048181

[Anonymous No.7048202]

>>7048199
>>7048185

[Anonymous No.7048203]

>>7048202
>>7048186

[Anonymous No.7048204]

>>7048197
*if you haven't tried AI you might not know, If you download an anime AI model like orange abyss mix, and just prompt basic stuff like "girl, purple hair" you get those "default" haircuts and faces.

[Anonymous No.7048222]

>>7048196
>Pewds wouldn't risk sticking his neck out from referencing off an actual artist
he shows himself copying panels straight from chainsawman

[Anonymous No.7048228]

If those elements are ubiquitous enough to be mixed into an LLM they are ubiquitous throughout the source material. Crabbos know this and yet they have to mainline copium or they WILL die. Maybe get off the internet and dive back into clip studio so the 9001 "drawing tools" can coddle your baby bitch ass?

[Anonymous No.7048229]

>>7048222
I think any artist with a platform would be glad to have pewdiepie show copies of their work, provided he names them.

[Anonymous No.7048231]

>>7048228
Ok, Mr Le Cumti

[Anonymous No.7048235]

>>7048228
an LLM? ok so you don't know what you are talking about. he copied AI, it's obvious if you just rub 2 braincells together. Why all the drama? He's allowed to, it's fine, he copied, so what? why is it such a problem for you for others to comment on it?

[Anonymous No.7048242]

>>7048235
You say copied but I hear coping

[Anonymous No.7048245]

>>7048228
>LLM
It astounds me how little /ic/ bothers to learn about AI considering it's been the number 1 boogeyman here for the past two years

[Anonymous No.7048248]

Pewds is doing exactly what our resident Ai tripcode user tried to convey, the idea of using Ai to assist you in drawing, painting, and learning from it. I can't wait for all the normies watching Pewds become infatuated and start to draw and improve that'll put /asg/ on suicide watch and hopefully we will finally get rid of those generals.

[Anonymous No.7048249]

>>7048245
Oh right how could I be so obtuse, of course YOUR super special little guy is MUCH more complicated than a simple speak and spell on steroid mashing shit together. I mean, leave alone the fact that it isn't artificial intelligence, at all, but yeah let's call it that so you can huff your jenkopium.

[Anonymous No.7048251]

>>7044822
Nah he was just drawing at start 10 minutes a day later he was drawing even more like an hour.

>Rich and don't have job
Do you need to be rich to afford pencil and have literally hour before you go sleep ? No. You rather complain and come with excuses.

[Anonymous No.7048255]

>>7048166
Funny how the shitter who told you to pyw hasn’t posted his yet(not surprised)

[Anonymous No.7048258]

>>7048242
explain your position. You think he developed his style for his more developed pictures in a way that just happened to match AI defaults almost exactly? why didn't his chainsaw man copying rub off on his style for those? again, I don't really care if he uses it(how many times do I have to say that? I'm an anticrab/paintover/redliner)

[Anonymous No.7048260]

>>7048255
I don't think he draws, just a troll that has watched a speed paint video on youtube or something.

[Anonymous No.7048265]

>>7048160
Yep, seen that said everywhere. People would say anything to justify why things don’t go their way. This board exhibit those same behaviors, but to a worse extent(ligameme, muh asian blood and sweat, or talent).

[Anonymous No.7048267]

>>7048258
the AI is an average of what anime girl artwork is
his 'style' is just the average of the things his brain remembers from his referenced work
that they turn out similar is no surprise

[Anonymous No.7048274]

>>7044822
>sets foot in japan
>year later is drawing anime like it's nothing
Asian jeans was real

[Anonymous No.7048282]

>>7048258
>happened to match AI defaults
they don't unless you're some schizo who thinks they can ID triangles and shadows. you're just a bitter crab, crabbing bitterly.
>"i don't care!!!"
yeah that explains the 55 posts ITT

[Anonymous No.7048288]

>>7048267
Ok, that's an interesting perspective. I wonder why no other artists seem to get so very close to AI defaults, they all seem to have their own spin whether they mean to or not, especially here on ic, all the anime looks pretty different from AI. copying chainsaw man a lot, I'd think his work would have at least some influences from it. no comment? (I did see him stick power horns on one image, not quite what I mean though)

[Anonymous No.7048293]

>>7048282
There are multiple anons, You can see confusion further up.
How can I prove I am not a crab? I thought I did but anons started going a bit nuts.

[Anonymous No.7048298]

>>7048293
>How can I prove I am not a crab?
Not him but you may start by posting your work and at least that'll demonstrate that you are not an armchair general here.

[Anonymous No.7048305]

>>7048298
Did... then I got accused of AI and well, I guess I could have seen that coming...
Here's an anatomy paintover I did for an anon recently

[Anonymous No.7048307]

>>7048305
Conveniently skipped fingers kek

[Anonymous No.7048308]

>>7048305
>Did... then I got accused of AI and well
Remember, if someone on /ic/ is trying to shit on you that means you are doing something right. Clearly Pewds is doing something very right.

[Anonymous No.7048311]

>>7048288
but even his don't match the AI defaults
the lighting is different, he tends to give them turtlenecks for some reason, the ears and nose are different, etc..

[Anonymous No.7048316]

>>7044822
suscribe!

[Anonymous No.7048487]

>>7044822
according to the video he's copying random stuff from his phone which he keeps next to the notebook, so it's normal
when I started drawing I thought having refs were cheating, something which really fucked my pogress for months. everything got so easy when I started copying and mixing stuff

[Anonymous No.7048589]

>>7048251
>Do you need to be rich to afford pencil and have literally hour before you go sleep
I'll have to work 14-hour shifts next week. If l'm lucky, I will barely manage to brush my teeth before passing out

[Anonymous No.7048613]

>>7048589
Are you drawing now?

[Anonymous No.7048616]

>>7048589
you don't "have to" do anything you don't want to

[Anonymous No.7048653]

>>7048589
You have time to shitpost, but no time to draw? Ok, retard

[Anonymous No.7048695]

>>7048616
You kinda do to survive. I fucking hate wageslaving but it's a means to an end.

[Anonymous No.7048841]

>>7044822
I also find it funny how some artists are mad that pewds is setting "muh unrealistic expectations" on improvement time.
If there was a magic way for any artist to level up their drawings they would all take it. The "marathon not a sprint" has always been a gigantic lie

[Anonymous No.7048864]

>>7046682
Yes, that IS the alternative, unfortunately.

[Anonymous No.7049109]

I'm a NEET getting my things together so I find it inspiring, just wish I had a little bit more money.
Gonna save up for a camera and microphone and start doing youtube

[Anonymous No.7049114]

>>7047962
>Humans are literally incapable of randomness
>machine is incapable of creativity but capable of randomness
You're acting like this is just flat out black and white, it's not. Human perception of randomness is flawed. And who's making those machines?

>Anyway, the most important thing in art is intent, for which you cannot get enough rolls with ai.
Following your logic the machine is going to create art because I will put intent into it via inpainting and a few quick image edits with absolutely no artistic skill involved on my part. But the intent will be there. Will you call that art?

[Anonymous No.7049117]

>>7049114
It's obvious the moment you choose to use the AI to produce an image the intent is already there, regardless of any artistic skill.

[Anonymous No.7049186]

>>7048204
This is such a weird argument, why do you think that haircut becomes the default when you prompt the model then? Probably because it was very common in the training data, so the same images that people might stumble upon and use for inspiration and reference.

[Anonymous No.7049195]

>>7049186
it's common(even power has the middle bang thing, so he could have picked it up there), but it's kinda weird that his images happen to line up with so closely in ways beyond just the hair.
You really looked at both 3/4 view red head images in >>7047781 and think it's all a coincidence and that they share all these common shapes all at once?

[Anonymous No.7049210]

>>7044822
>good
>whatever the fuck the bottom left is
If this is good, then I guess AI is somehow amazing, incredible and whatever else

[Anonymous No.7049215]

>>7049210
I mean yeah, it is. You can dislike AI for whatever reasons I guess but saying it looks bad is just cope.

[Anonymous No.7049218]

>>7049215
I don't really like or dislike AI, it's just yet another way of making pictures, I have a bigger issue with people calling legit middle school tier images "good" out of pity while ignoring all mistakes made, but when something made by AI that actually looks amazing and has little to no issues appears, they recoil and hiss, and overanalyze every single cluster of pixels for tiniest mistake
Pathetic really, have some consistency

[Anonymous No.7049220]

>>7049218
Fair enough then, we agree.

[Anonymous No.7049227]

>>7049218
>>7049220
rare reasonable minds among an ocean of faggots

[Anonymous No.7049236]

>>7044837
this but unironically

[Anonymous No.7049253]

>>7045037
Took the words out of my mouth lol

[Anonymous No.7049262]

>>7045796
>>7045971
>>7045994
>>7045994
>>7049253
>>7049253
>>7045430
based ronald posters gmi

[Anonymous No.7049268]

>Thread devolves into AI disccusion
I hate this board

Anyway, it's hard to tell how much he's actually improving if he just does anime head shots

[Anonymous No.7049288]

>>7049268
>Thread devolves into AI disccusion
did it really matter? there are 3 other pewdiepie threads...

[Anonymous No.7049292]

>>7045763
in a nutshell:
He privately started drawing and set a goal for 2 weeks, 10 minutes per day.
Then he enjoyed it, so he went with 30 days. He then made a video about the 30 days of drawing results.

Then after 100 days, he then published another video of 100 days of drawing results. He said he just enjoyed drawing so much after 30 days, he just kept drawing.

You should watch the two videos; they are pretty short.

[Anonymous No.7049298]

>>7049268
it really doesn't matter if he's drawing anime heads or a banana
as long as he keeps using ref he'll continue to improve his observation skills
and with a good eye he can train other fundies once he needs to

[Anonymous No.7049302]

>>7048166
I like this guy

[Anonymous No.7049311]

>>7049298

Isn't it way better to start drawing full body and then focus on more specific things later? Seems stupid to start with just heads

[Anonymous No.7049318]

>>7049311
it doesn't matter
the biggest roadblock in the beginning is that your eye can't see angles and proportions (and eye-hand coordination)
if anything, he did the right thing in creating a comfort zone he can go back to once he starts tackling harder stuff and needs a break

[Anonymous No.7049336]

>>7049311
Drawing full figures gives you more problems to solve, not fewer.

[Anonymous No.7049343]

>>7048841
It’s only the shit ones that say that. Everyone else are happy about his improvement

[Anonymous No.7049356]

>>7049311
If you want to overwhelm someone just starting out with more than double proportions and anatomy of a head

[Anonymous No.7049359]

>>7049195
Hey, I could be wrong. But I've laid out my argument for why I don't find it very odd that there are AI models out there that generate stuff that looks similar to what he drew. The same arguments that I made for the hair may or may not hold up for the poses etc. In the end I don't know, but I don't think it's clear cut that he's tracing over AI generated stuff.

[Anonymous No.7049437]

>>7044822
People are coping that hard work beats talent, and Pewds just made it because he's rich.

He's literally a sleep deprived dad of a baby with $30 worth of art supplies practicing like 10 mins to an hour of a day

[Anonymous No.7049447]

>>7049437
the 10k hour thing was mistaking cause and effect
people that recieve positive feedback from their efforts are more likely to invest even more time
you'd need to be insane to invest 1k hours without any success and then go on to invest 9k more

[Anonymous No.7049498]

>>7044858
>Why do you like giving people false hope? Is this an elborate plan to troll me into killing myself?
he's literally copying anime heads straight from panels. There's skill involved for sure but I think anyone can do that within 6 months of practicing.

[Anonymous No.7049513]

>>7049437
Holy fuck. I didn't know this Swede was a dad. Honestly good for him.

[Anonymous No.7049514]

>>7049447
What is "positive feedback"? Can it come from within, ie. a sense of pleasure when drawing?

[Anonymous No.7049524]

>>7049437
>sleep deprived
>0 sign of tired eyes

[Anonymous No.7049526]

>>7049514
>work hard on finishing a drawing
>is happy with result
>wants to feel happy again

[Anonymous No.7051042]

>>7049114
>But the intent will be there
No, there is no intent in that case. It's like arguing prompting puts intent into the output.
>Human perception of randomness is flawed. And who's making those machines?
You're acting as if such a simple concept could be misunderstood. Well, maybe you're right considering what you just said, because you understand none of it. Luckily people much smarter than you are working on those machines.

[Anonymous No.7051077]

>>7049526
Doesn't seem like it's real though. The closest I feel is pride, and it's nowhere close enough to be my drive.
I've learned to be able to do things that I like doing(kinda like journey rather than the end thing) when I want to.(unlike 2 years ago when I was just miserable, couldn't do anything unless "I felt like it", and I wasn't even depressed, even though I was feeling like I would eventually be if it keeps going on)
But people's brains are working in all sorts of ways. If it's a thing for you, nice for you. I'd just let you know that relying on a feeling rather than executive function leads to a very miserable outcome.

[Anonymous No.7051083]

>>7051077
I only do art when I'm feeling it, rational thinking gets a co pilot seat

[Anonymous No.7051114]

>>7051042
>arguing prompting puts intent into the output.
There is no argument, it's true by definition.

[Anonymous No.7051127]

>>7046018
secretly?

[Anonymous No.7051132]

>>7051114
That's what intent in art means.

Did you intend create a lost edge where the hair meets the forehead? Did you intend to make the eye that size? That shape? Did you intend to make the arms large? What was the reasoning for all of it?

You should be able to answer all these questions with strong reasonings behind them because that is what it means to have intention in art.

[Anonymous No.7051147]

>>7051132
Not him but it's not black and white.
Intent is a continuum.
Even in the most /trad/ artwork styles there can be happy accidents and things that turn out differently than what you intended.
And if you're willing to go down to the minute detail, you don't fully decide how the individual strokes look on the canvas, especially if you're not very experienced or if you're doing certain digital styles.
You never fully have 100% intent, and obviously anything made by AI has less artistic intent than something entirely hand-made (particularly in the details as you mentioned), but there's still quite a bit of it because of the prompt and any further iterations you make, which is arguably way more intent than some other non-AI styles such as the collaging abd photobashing side of things.

[Anonymous No.7051153]

>>7046018
Does /pol/ jerk it to blacked

[Anonymous No.7051158]

>>7051042
>You're acting as if such a simple concept could be misunderstood
educate yourself dumb degenerate ape, there's no point talking to subhuman filth like you

[Anonymous No.7051170]

>>7051077
I think you kind of need both: enjoyment of the process and (relative) satisfaction with the result
you'd need to be somewhat of a monk to enjoy the first without ever caring for the second

[Anonymous No.7051176]

>>7051147
You're reaching.

>Even in the most /trad/ artwork styles there can be happy accidents and things that turn out differently than what you intended.
Happy accidents extend beyond art and generally, if the accidents are preferred then it's your intention to keep them.

>you don't fully decide how the individual strokes look on the canvas, especially if you're not very experienced or if you're doing certain digital styles.
Untrue, most experienced artists do so, even inexperienced ones. There's a general preference for brushes, you can create a round mark with a flat brush and a flat mark with a round brush, the application of both to create either creates a different result. Or are you talking about a messy brush that invokes randomnness?

>You never fully have 100% intent
You never fully have 100% of any action you do but I'm not arguing about absolute control of even the most individual molecules/pixels.

AI image generation has about as much intent as pulling a slot machine lever.

[Anonymous No.7051181]

>>7051176
>if the accidents are preferred then it's your intention to keep them.
If the AI's outputs are preferred then it's your intention to keep them.
Your own logic disproves your ideology, and the fact that you're applying this reasoning to regular art but fail to see (or pretend to) how it also applies to AI shows how you're arguing from a place of ideology and merely intend to discredit AI art instead of trying to find the truth.

>Untrue...
You didn't understand the point and argued something else. Reread my post.

>AI image generation has about as much intent as pulling a slot machine lever.
Factually wrong in such an obvious way that anyone who's not a blind ideologue (such as yourself) can see how dumb of a statement this is.

100% agreed with >>7051158

[Anonymous No.7051189]

>>7051181
Basically agree with this guy too, plus nothing is stoping you from editing AI generated images in traditional/digital ways.

[Anonymous No.7051196]

>>7051181
I agree with the idea of degrees of intent. There's more intent in drawing a crude sketch and feeding it to the AI than typing a sentence. Similarly, there's more intent in deliberately placing each brush stroke than filling flats with the bucket tool and calling a day.

[Anonymous No.7051232]

>>7051196
Yes. And you can add even more nuance by (mostly subjectively) applying different levels of importance to the various things that you may not have put intent in.
For instance, my earlier example of not having full control over the microscopic details is something of very low importance because those details can be drastically different and it wouldn't affect what you were trying to achieve in the end result, so it doesn't matter.
Likewise, if you're making a collage for a political piece and you get a picture of a politician in a suit, it doesn't matter what shape his pockets are. They can be any shape, and they're certainly visible in the piece, but it doesn't make a difference in what you're trying to achieve, so it's not really important to have intent in that detail.
In AI art, if you want, say, an image of a flowery field next to a farm house, it doesn't matter what shape each individual flower is. You can generate a bunch of different versions and they're all equally good for what you're trying to achieve. If they're not, you can use various tools to make them the shape you want, so at the end of the day, in any type of art, as long as you're happy with the final result, there has been intent where you wanted and anything that came into existence without your intent, simply doesn't matter.

Now, calling it "your artwork" is a separate issue altogether, but IMO it doesn't really matter and it's just semantics to condense a number of factors into a simple yes/no sentence, which is rarely useful if you're not the type of 80iq black and white thinker who can only think binarily.

[Anonymous No.7051372]

/ic/ really is just /r9k/ for people that draw

[Anonymous No.7051393]

>>7051372
That's pretty much all of 4chan. Each board is a different flavor of /r9k/ and/or /pol/.
And that's why we're all here

[Anonymous No.7051420]

>>7051393
i don't think that is necessarily true for every board. you're not going to see a guy /tv/ say he can't properly watch movies because he has the wrong genetics or is above 25

[Anonymous No.7051466]

>>7051420
No because that doesn't make sense for /tv/, but they'll say r9k stuff that is related to their subjects, such as the waifu shit or the whole "he's literally me" meme.

[Anonymous No.7051472]

>>7051372
>people that draw
Huh?

[Anonymous No.7051705]

>>7046287
Its not. It will only ever matter if you are in a situation where you cant really use ref like if you are drawing for people at an artist alley on the spot or something

Use reference, you will eventually memorize things if you draw the same shit anyways

[Anonymous No.7052118]

>>7047966
You are a retarded aisubhuman, he uses the tools himself and draws everything of his own free will, without outside orders, like a machine

[Anonymous No.7052121]

>>7048138
He doesn’t draw but sketches primitive faces, anyone is capable of this, I’m new to this board but I’ve seen quite a lot of real artists

[Anonymous No.7052131]

>>7049218
Images drawn by people are drawn by people. Nobody drew AI, so the first ones are higher than the second ones. Images drawn by people are drawn by people. Nobody drew AI, so the first ones are higher than the second ones. It's disgusting that people's opinions are distorted by the scam AI of Faggots

[Anonymous No.7052157]

>>7049498
desu 6 months is slow
if you only practice one anime face/expression you should be able to rough sketch something similar to pewds female face in a month, maybe even a week
he just has the advantage of being a famous eceleb so he can put all his eggs into one easy basket and get guaranteed tons of validation
an average person learning fundamentals and anatomy does not have that luxury

[Anonymous No.7052160]

>>7052131
Most reasonable anti-AI argument from the least deranged anti-AI ideologue.

[Anonymous No.7052161]

>>7044857
She's right. It's either that or live like Togashi (pre wife) in a mountain of garbage while killing yourself

[Anonymous No.7052499]

>>7049437
>He's literally a sleep deprived dad of a baby with $30 worth of art supplies practicing like 10 mins to an hour of a da
didnt he use to be a digital artist?

[Anonymous No.7053672]

>>7045037
took a swing

[Anonymous No.7053721]

>>7053672
why is she so fucking fat (otherwise nice work though)

[Anonymous No.7053765]

>>7053721
Fat? That's just her M32 breeches

[Anonymous No.7053769]

>>7053765
What about her arms, neck and face?

[Anonymous No.7053777]

>>7053769
?

[Anonymous No.7053785]

>>7053721
McDonalds will make you fat. They serve Big Macs. They serve quarter pounders. They will put pounds on you.

[Anonymous No.7054172]

>>7045029
Honestly this kek
It's fucking hilarious the sheer raw amount of outrage that someone who
>seems to be enjoying drawing
>went to 30 days and was like "hey i kinda like drawing ill just continue"
>and simply just did that
fucking completely analshattered every permabeg non-artist doodler out of fucking orbit on nearly every art platform
I am excited for the next 200 day video

[Anonymous No.7054646]

>>7044822
>you can get good
>thinks that's good
Tell me you are a beglet without telling me you are a beglet.

[Anonymous No.7054658]

>>7054646
He can color, which is nice. but I think not being digtal gives an advantage when it comes to starting coloring stuff.

[Anonymous No.7054670]

>>7048589
Well instead of posting draw.

[Anonymous No.7054701]

>>7044822
Art is for aristocrats. Toil is for plebs.

[Anonymous No.7054777]

>>7045037
Absolute truth. Also, cute clown.

[Anonymous No.7056555]

>>7045037
Pewds motivated me more than anything. Im studying heads for month for now.
I have a dream
i wanna make a comic
about sentient dinosaur species that is threatened by meteor going in their direction so they ask gods to move it but he denys so they set up tournament where dinos box biblically accurate angles and if they win gods will redirect meteor
And i wanna improve so it can look best it can
Good luck to other anons

[Anonymous No.7056556]

>>7056555
*denies

[Anonymous No.7056571]

your art could improve as well if you stopped thinking about it too hard but all you faggots do is follow rules and learn about things you don't even care about but still do them because you want to "be better"
do it because you love it and not because you want to get good, art isn't coding and the mistakes or wrong proportions won't ruin your painting

unless your goal is to just make a living out of it because you "love" doing it then sure go and seethe all you want, you dumb niggers

[Anonymous No.7058964]

>>7046300
Where do you live

[Anonymous No.7059004]

>>7044826
> he totally did only a few minutes each day
Youtubers lying, on the internet? Never!

[Anonymous No.7059103]

>>7058964

[Anonymous No.7059361]

>>7047627
Point is not to imitate him, he also found yt videos of already established artists and learned from those.

What people should reference when it comes to Pewdiepie is his ability to self reflect in learning process. You can think of it as a ability to self critique yourself without beating yourself over it.

Again, he might have fuck you money, but he literally uses shittiest sketchbook and pencil for a start. Point is to just do it.

>>7047781
I'm first to say I fucking loathe AI slop, but you have to accept that not many people (as in majority) don't have trained eye like artists do. Example, coworker didn't realize she was looking at AI generated product and it took me at best 10 seconds to realize it was all AI. He probably went on pinterest to get references and Pin is choke full of AI at the moment. So I wouldn't hold it against him.

And desu, if I'm not wrong, you could legaly redraw AI art and claim it as your own because AI at this stage doesn't fall under copyright law.

[Anonymous No.7059389]

>>7059103
cute

[Anonymous No.7059393]

>>7059103
kenen puolesta äänestit?

[Anonymous No.7059438]

yeah he's just recreating AI art he finds online. The shit looks identical.

[Anonymous No.7059570]

>>7059438
What's the difference between him drawing from ai vs real drawings. I don't like ai images, by the way, but in regards to the process. Unless you're copying broken poses or fucked up hands, although the same goes for studying from poorly made real art too.

[Anonymous No.7059589]

>>7059361
>if I'm not wrong, you could legaly redraw AI art and claim it as your own because AI at this stage doesn't fall under copyright law.
that sounds tempting, it helps that I dont have to declare what reference im using

[Anonymous No.7059616]

>>7045978
Loomis is a beg compared to your average Japanese artist.

[Anonymous No.7059621]

It's not even that good like an average weeaboo middle schooler draws like this

[Anonymous No.7059802]

>>7044836
better and more truthful point than some retard saying "omg hes only improved this much this fast because hes rich!"

nigger, he worked with pen/pencil on paper for the majority of the time and even when he started using markers, it's not like he bought some magical million dollar markers that boosted his skill by 99. so wtf does being rich have to do with his improvement other than not having to work a job. which, btw, most beginner artists are young and/or are neets living with their parents and dont have responsibilities anyway so if they truly wanted it, they could dedicate the time. but if we're being honest, most of the artists complaining and making excuses like op are just lazy and don't actually enjoy drawing that much

[Anonymous No.7059804]

>>7044857
>>7044862
yeah just means that if you're ina position where you dont have to go to school or work a job and have all the time you want to pursue art, you can get rather good rather quickly. ofc, that's not the only thing you need -- you also need the actual drive and discipline to put in the effort to practice and study

[Anonymous No.7059808]

>>7044847
"why are people still talking about one of the largest and most successful youtubers of all time getting into art and showing an impressive level of improvement? theres no way this can be authentic"

this comment is so retarded it has to be bait

[Anonymous No.7059863]

>>7059393
En äänestänyt

[Anonymous No.7059903]

>>7045043
How do you think learning how to draw works faggot? You copy other drawings and from life and watch tutorials and shit

[Anonymous No.7060008]

>>7059103
KIMI RÄIKÖNNEN
MIKA HÄKKINEN
VITTU PERKELE SAATANA

[Anonymous No.7060040]

if you're not rich or a neet, you never stood a chance.

[Anonymous No.7060058]

>>7047531
>"4 burners theory"
> Each one represents a primary aspect of your life: work, family, friends, and health. According to the theory, if you want to be successful in one area, you must turn off one burner. If you want to be world-class, you’ll have to turn off two.
lol 4chan should be full of world class artists, I imagine most people here have turned off friends and family, probably work, too (neeting in your parents' house doesn't count as "family")

[Anonymous No.7060105]

The video was posted 13 days ago
How many of these days have you drawn at least something?

[Anonymous No.7060122]

He’ll never have the raw talent of Newgrounds Blender model artists, and neither will I. Xinus is unobtainable soul

Why live?

[Anonymous No.7060130]

>>7060122
i need another image like his, but instead of her hand coming close tot he camera
it should be her bare feet

[Anonymous No.7060160]

>>7059570
none really. It's still just copying someone elses work. This just happens to be AI. I mean just look at it. It's obvious.

[Anonymous No.7060173]

Wake me up about art being a “learned skill” when Pewds starts drawing in the soulful styles of genetic higher breeds who started like this before they hit age 20

[Anonymous No.7060183]

>>7060173
you can't just be jealous of someone's final product
you have to also be jealous of all the work, practice, and diligence they put in by that time
saying it's all genetics is a nuclear cope

[Anonymous No.7060265]

>>7044826
>>7047431
>>7059004
Didn't he say at the end of the video that the point of this 10-minute challenge is that it's the bare minimum you force yourself to do just to get started and then you spend more time on it?
I do the same with workout and cleaning. 10 push-ups on a morning is my bare minimum to do but it's almost always more. I force myself to do one thing at home, such as ironing 10 T-shirts, and it ends with general tidying up, washing windows and repairing an electrical socket that has been broken for a week.
>>7045037
truthpilled. I wanted to do what Pewds did, but instead I'm sitting here reading the discussion
>>7046300
>>7059103
I blame modern internet. When I visited my grandparents, where even phones lose signal, dogs bark with their asses and the devil says goodnight, after a week I was growing flowers, repairing the roof in the heat didn't bother me and was fun activity, and the circle and stick or climbing on trees were better entertainment than any computer game. Old people were right.

[Anonymous No.7060410]

>>7045037

[Anonymous No.7060738]

>>7059004
i like how his progress is simultaneously fuck all because all he does is basic anime portraits but also too good to be legit so he's lying to attentionwhore

[Anonymous No.7060759]

>>7060183
They say themselves that content like this “is just a napkin doodle. Nothing I was really trying on”.
Fuck off

[Anonymous No.7060793]

>>7045367
This. He can't draw for shit

[Anonymous No.7060969]

>>7045367
Why haven't you gotten good at drawing a thing by drawing it 100 times?

[Anonymous No.7061350]

>>7045037
True and well said anon, thanks for the ronald
>>7056555
Based. Keep it up anon
>>7060410
Very cute anon gj

[Anonymous No.7061546]

>>7060173
i recenyt stumbled upon a 19 year old filino artist making stuff like pic relayed. The person is clearly actually talented and is already better than probably 99.9% of artists, but instead of being jealous or discouraged, I think such a thing should make you happy for the artist and inspired to keep creating.

Talent obviously exists, but that's okay -- it doesn't mean a person can't still get good and have fun doing so

[Anonymous No.7061639]

>>7061546
That’s the mentality of someone who’s totally content with their own mediocrity. “Be a better you and don’t aspire to be just like the eastern highbreeds at Studio Trigger” is the a cuck’s philosophy, probably someone who’s okay with Yoshinari stealing from them and enjoying that he “made it better”

[Anonymous No.7061652]

>>7061639
well not quite. i do aspire to be as good as the greats. for me, my long term aim to reach craig mullins or yizheng ke's level (which btw im sure some crabs here would consider to be mediocre)

i'm not conntent with just being mediocre, which is why i have painted every single day without fail for the past 6ish years. that said, i'm not overcome with envy or bitterness at an artist being way better or improving way faster, instead i think it's awesome and admire them

[Anonymous No.7062976]

>>7061546
https://www.instagram.com/arucelli/?hl=en
I remember seeing an old screenshot here where this girl had around their level of skill at ~19 with 200k followers or something like that. That was a while ago but they haven't got much better since. Point being, you can shoot up quick with a certain style but stunt yourself in the long run. And I'm sure that they're content with their technical ability which is fine too, it really doesn't have to be a race to get better all the time.