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Huh /ic/? HUH?!

>> No.7032139

>>7032135
If I knew I wouldnt be here

>> No.7032153

Bluesky but its invite only

>> No.7032156

>>7032135
This board is the best art platform whether you believe it or not. It has the best artists but they don't post their work, we also have "supposed" pros who just happens to be /int/s with overblown ego in discord servers sucking each other's cock. Then we have /beg/lets littered everywhere.
/ic/ is the best art platform, YOU are not leaving this site, YOU will stay here forever with me.

>> No.7032158

>>7032153
>the best platform is the one with absolutely no potential for growth in its current state

>> No.7032160

>>7032153
that shit is founded by an unrepentant NFT shill kek

>> No.7032167

>>7032160
dorsey has nothing to do with bluesky anymore.

>> No.7032175

>>7032135
X (formally Twitter) for shilling, /ic/ to torrent art videos.

>> No.7032314

>>7032135
X is where it's at & will be for the foreseeable future. rumors of its demise have been greatly exaggerated.

>> No.7032327

Jesus Christ.

>> No.7032440

>>7032158
This guy gets marketing

>> No.7032441

For those who are just memeing twitter as a good platform they regularly shadowban and demote original art posts promoting the artist becuase they havent bought a formal and expensive ad slot. Twitter blows if you dont have an audience and is full of bots.

>> No.7032443
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7032443

Deviant art (the forum communities are active and promote sales and art consumption)
Tumblr (less bots than twitter and no demoting artists for posting art)
Artstation (if you're not a /beg/ and want peers and collaborators who can reference you to real jobs)
Newgrounds is like Artstation for /beg/s minus the pro work but there will be people in desperate need of collaborators.
Youtube if you record anything live or do speed draws or timelapses.

Honestly any fuckin website with a community that doesnt exist solely to make a large corporation big cash money ad bucks.
Hell posting your art on random Discords can help you get reliable fans. Posting on MMO community websites that have themes and style you connect with and actually interacting with people and drawing for them.
Go fkin sell yourself. Talk to people.

I would say Fantia but they are not cool to foreigners. They made me censor my art even though they have diper fetish and tentacle porn on the front page.
Theres niches everywhere.

>> No.7032449

Oh and subscribestar IF you can get in, so you can monetize your work without the fear of being booted off of patreon/coffi/whatever else for being lewd. I've heard some people have trouble getting approval to sign up but mine was pretty much overnight.

Pixiv has a lot of traffic but because of their merger with visa/mastercard they are having a quazi moral existensial crisis and dissalowing many countries from monetizing work and doing commissions but the community views a lot and consumes a ton of art. They also dont have posting restriction for wierd shit as long as you mark it appropriately.

>> No.7032506

>>7032135
any platform that bans AI

>> No.7034465

>>7032441
since when

>> No.7034710

>>7034465
Since years ago. Twitter is just algorithm ad bait. The bots are a constant.

>> No.7034716

I wish something like ArtStation existed but not industry oriented but also not porn oriented

>> No.7034730

Furaffinity :^)

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>>7032449
>Oh and subscribestar IF you can get in, so you can monetize your work without the fear of being booted off of patreon/coffi/whatever else for being lewd. I've heard some people have trouble getting approval to sign up but mine was pretty much overnight

Where do you live? Where you posting content before your account was approved? How often you did? What forms did you filled?

Sorry if i sound pushy and intrusive but i am of those people who cant get accepted on SubscribeStar

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7034891

>>7032443
>DevaintArt
ChrisChan levels of Cringetism and stolen art

Tumblr
>No porn allowed, also No views, only Wokies and the stupid are still there.

Newgrounds
>No Loli or Shota allowed.

Discord
>No Loli or Shota, also filled with Trannies, Wokies and Pedos trying to cancel you.

>> No.7034911

>>7034891
You're complaining about no lolis and talking about pedos trying to cancel you? Buddy you are a pedo

>> No.7034912

>>7032135
Did the porn purge really make people stop using tumblr? That's nuts.

>> No.7034916

>>7034912
that sucks because tumblr's layout is at least comfy.

>> No.7034978

>>7034911
No stupid, he means antiloli retards who slander people as pedos over anime who later got outed as pedos or sexpest themselves, what are you a tranoon?

>> No.7035165

>>7034716
Same, but that's somewhat of a catch 22, impossible in the current age.
Any platform with a modicum of polish will be consolidated and gentrified. In order to avoid that, it has to be intentionally shitty, which would attract degenerates.

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7035190

From what I've seen, when you're a complete nobody if you do fanart you can just repost it on the relevant subreddit for way more attention than you'd get on other platforms.

Sometimes people repost my shit there and when they bother to credit me I typically get a handful of new followers on other platforms who all instantly repost everything I drew about the specific franchise they're fans of.

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>>7032135
Nowhere.

>> No.7035268

Deviant Art and Pixiv

>> No.7035308

>>7032443
bad take and NGMI

>> No.7035315

>>7032135
Your fridge so the most important people in your life see it.

>> No.7035432
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Is there a way to post in a single site, and it update my galleries on Twitter, DA, Pixiv, Instagram and etc? A single place where I can just automate the posting on all of those sites?

>> No.7035522

>>7034911
He means loli art, you fucking retard.

>> No.7035543

let's be real normies don't like good art
there is no point to a platform
just keep your art to yourself and show family occasionally
maybe sell on etsy?
idk there is no reason for platforms

>> No.7035644

>>7034912
>>7034916
They've made strives to improve the filtering system at least and now there are community labels.

>> No.7035652

>>7032153
Right now it feels like everyone has a bluesky and nobody uses it. The big question is just how long will people be willing to put up with the slow degradation of Twitter.

>> No.7035699

>>7035652
>slow degradation
fucking KEK. how long has this "degradation" been going on?? meanwhile literally every competitor had become completely irrelevant

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7035852

I post on misskey, and have around 3 hundred subs

the fediverse it's the only serious alternative despite how small it is
it's also en-shitification-proof

>> No.7035858

>>7035852
if you want to try it but stay on mastodon you can try mstdn.jp, mstdn.social, mas.to for max visibility (in that order)

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7036425

>>7035852
Misskey, the jap website that blocks foreigners and refuses to let them im because of Cancel pigs?

>> No.7036513

>>7036425
well im at misskey.art open registrations btw

>> No.7036568

>>7032135
deviantART Just like always. /ic/ aka ED lite can cope and seethe about it but it's true.

>> No.7036780

>>7034891
le wokie

>> No.7036839

>>7034891
Why are you shitting on your own kind?

>> No.7037247

>>7036513
if you are fucking lying ill burn your s_0_yfilled head with a flamethrower

>> No.7037256

>>7036568
tourist

>> No.7037461

>>7032153
This place HAS to be Discord tier right now, right? Literally no one is talking about this dogshit and when I "applied" for an invite I got nothing.

>> No.7037865

>>7036568
can't spoil on /IC/ dumbass

>> No.7037871

>>7037461
Not really, it's just insane with furries and transpostings. A vast majority of posts there are just screenshots from X.
There are some artists, but I think most artists went back to Instagram and Tumblr or are sticking with X
I eventually got an invite but it took about 6 months, but it's not worth it.

>> No.7037875

>>7032135
The best art platform is wherever your favorite artists congregate. No one truly likes Pixiv's interface. No one likes Twitter's moderation or its users. No sane person keeps track of userbase stats for these sites.
It's not about finding the best site. It's about finding your people.

>> No.7038500

>>7032153
>>7037461
Here's some invites for whoever wants to try it out:
bsky-social-ogcyk-kcf47
bsky-social-5e7ub-uslcn
bsky-social-rotjy-tepqc
bsky-social-qodv2-e4rsg
bsky-social-7tuwb-fkwqi
bsky-social-biwjs-vzjg4
bsky-social-2xyfk-phvgp
bsky-social-4hfwr-iq7xj
bsky-social-njlng-4lyrc
bsky-social-yykq3-zixem

>> No.7038758

i need an invite plox

>> No.7038855

>>7038500
Kino

>> No.7038876 [DELETED] 
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>>7032135
If you wanna make money from just drawing. Instagram is king since it has the most normies and normies have money.
Twitter is second, there's a lot more active users but less people are willing to spend because twitter users are poorer and endless complaining gives you brain damage.

100k Instagram followers give you 6 figure earnings. (pic related)
100k Twitter followers give you barely minimum wage ($20k year).

>> No.7038878

>>7038500
I never touch blue sky here are my 5 shmeckles as well
bsky-social-qb2wx-nodwu
bsky-social-45iww-bjmcw
bsky-social-ehlug-mcjkm
bsky-social-wyqvm-erhtu
bsky-social-jcnnr-upksj

>> No.7039193

>>7038500
Smart thing to do would be people post their bsky @s and we make a feed of /ic/ users

>> No.7039218

>>7038500
I used one of the invites and the UI is like a replica of twitter's also what are some good artists on bluesky.

>> No.7039271

>>7038878
Nice of you anons to post codes. Just be aware that codes are tied to your account. So if some Indian scraper grabs your code and uses it to spam shit on BSky, you can possibly get your account flagged as well

>> No.7039447

Every genre search on DeviantArt is just AI trash. How do you search for any kind of specific style or idea? I feel like one day this is going to be impossible and we’ll be back to just word of mouth.

>> No.7039655

Buy a fake chink phone number and create a Lofter account. it’s a fujo nest but for anime-like fanart is a goldmine

>> No.7039761

I tried bluesky but it doesnt seem to support gifs or video. Not a good place for animation.

>> No.7039773

>>7039761
It supports youtube and a few other site embeds now, not everything is in place yet I guess.

>> No.7042117

>>7035165
I hate that you're right.

>> No.7042169

>>7039447
>How do you search for any kind of specific style or idea?
I follow 3 traditional sculptors and 1 painter. I check my bookmarks monthly and I fucking hate everyone else.

>> No.7042518

>>7032135
that stupid fat fuck elon completely ruined twitter to jerk off with his rightoid grifters
every fresh account starts out shadowbanned and to get rid of it, you have to do a retarded amount of experimenting to prove you're not a bot or some shit, but don't do it too much, because retweeting or commenting ALSO GETS YOU SHADOWBANNED RANDOMLY FOR AN INDEFINITE AMOUNT OF TIME
ITS RETARDED

>> No.7042537

>>7042518
its almost he is a rich fuckboy who just wanted to brag and make money, the people be damned.

>> No.7043623

>>7042518
I haven't seen that, honestly. I have made an account not related to art or politics but simply another hobby of mine about a month or two ago. After about a week (?) I got a notification that said my account was going to get more exposure and whatnot. Since then I got decent engagement, honestly far better than I ever did with drawings. I hate saying engagement like it's a business thing, but what I really mean is just some people getting to look at the things I was posting. It was pretty comfy after all but I just don't like social media so I killed it anyway because I'm autistic.

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>>7043623
Bro you been duped, its all bots, to fuck with you, cause you are harmless.

>> No.7043680

>>7043674
>its all bots, to fuck with you
>implying this place is any different

>> No.7043684

>>7042518
Yeah, that must be the reason you aren't getting any followers....

>> No.7044616

>>7032135
Super crazy idea:

Use all of them at the same time???

Seriously whats with this retarded ass "which one platform should I use?" Shit I always see here. People acting like these websites have some exclusively rule or something. How much longer does it take to post to twitter AND instagram instead of just one, like 3 minutes?

>> No.7044619

>>7039271
Ah, well, I never use the account anyway if this happens.

>> No.7044627

>>7044616
It takes considerable effort to be active in one platform, you can't just post your stuff and leave, you have to engage in some way so the algorithm doesn't ignore you.

>> No.7044631

>Posting on my phone is so haaaaard

>> No.7044639

>>7034891
>no loli or shota allowed
Good.

>> No.7044643

>>7032135
Don't put your shit on Twatter just don't psychos are unhinged and they keep attacking you if you don't do normie art.

>> No.7046707

>>7044639

>ESG credit has been deposited trough your account.

>> No.7047048

>>7039447

You can filter out AI art posts on Deviantart in your settings menu.

>> No.7047178

>>7044627
>Considerable effort.
Bull fucking shit, you're just lazy. The only site that's a pain in the ass to upload to is FA because of it's archaic ass system, and you have to upload pieces one by one there. You do not have to be active on any of these sites. Just drop art, come back in a few hours like some replies, and then move on. It's that easy.

>> No.7047217

>>7044627
I used to spend like 6 hours per day wasting time commenting and replying on X, posting art and reblogging stuff. I would go months without so much as one new follow. And no it’s not because my art sucks.

>> No.7047266

>>7047217
Because you aren’t drawing fanart of popular ips

>> No.7047575

>>7035652
>degradation
>when I am now using Twitter now that I can gatekeep roasties and trannies.

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For me its X (holy shit what a terrible name for a site) and Instagram.

>> No.7047789

There's way too many furries on bluesky.

>> No.7047885

I have a few questions for pixiv, since I'm search banned on twitter and I noticed my stuff doesn't show to anyone. I made a pixiv and I immediately got a lot more likes and comments.

First the censor: should I use black bars or mosaic?

The second: how to show people the uncensored works? Twitter is obviously out of question as long as I'm soft banned, I don't think its worth even to upload there at least for now, and I don't really want to charge money on fanbox since I don't think I'm that good.

>> No.7049719

>>7032153
And now no more invite.

>> No.7049723

>>7047885
Bro, pixiv is japanese, you CANT show uncensored stuff there.

>> No.7049789

>>7047601
>X (holy shit what a terrible name for a site)
I instinctively hit the X to close the page/menu and I fucking hate it

>> No.7050684

Pixiv is the best for growth, however you won't get a lot of human-like engagement there, you can get a lot of followers and likes, but no comments other than a couple of stickers.

>> No.7050708

No idea, but pretty much every japanese artist I know is joining misskey and BS

>> No.7050742

>>7036425
>he didn't join before it exploded in popularity
lmao

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Xitter bros...

>> No.7050759

>>7050755
I'm yet to see this message
just how much do you use x.com (formerly twitter)?

>> No.7050776

>>7050755
i kneel, based Elon putting a stop to doomscrolling

>> No.7050804

i made one, im pretty shit but already had 2 random people like one of my pics so who knows but the downside is this place is really just full of the same people that used to be on tumblr then twitter and now here

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>>7032153
>>7032167
>>7035652
>>7038500
>>7038878
>>7039271
>>7047789
What is the point of Bluesky?

Like, what it does that Twittter already doesn't do? I watched several videos comparing both and Bluesky seems to be just an exact copy of Twitter.

Actually, Bluesky is a worse copy of Twitter considering that it has less features (like no gifs and videos) and less people.

So what exactly is the point of moving to Bluesky if it doesn't offer any advantage or new useful features?

>> No.7052486

>>7052445
New audience and twitter alternative for some. Vast majority of the jap artist i followed are already making blue sky accounts now. Who knows they might add gifs and vids soon.

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7052512

Welp, Bluesky is DOA.
Nips are angry because they got banned on Bluesky just for posting a swimsuit or some suggestive content, even the implied air blowjob pic got restricted.

>> No.7052527

>>7052512
Oh it’s ai slop user, but did they put a content warning on those drawings. Seeing drawings with full blown sex scenes and no ban. This mostly likely situation where people aren’t reading tos.

>> No.7052540

Nothing comes close to the site popularity of twitter (if you unironically call it X, youre regarded)

>> No.7052583

>>7052445
There is no benefit. Bluesky has less features than Twitter and doesn't even have 2FA. Not even the engagement is as great because there are no hashtags (possibly in development but who knows)
All the annoying people who left Twitter went to Bluesky, too. So Bluesky has an insane amount of furries and trans posters.
Starting over at Bluesky isn't worth it but maybe some anons will be happy there

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>>7052512
elon...i KNEEL....

>> No.7052646

>made a bluesky account months ago
>wanted to be in on the new thing at the ground level, hoping for growth and shit
>posted some works, got a little bit of attention
>interacted with others in an attempt to be more social
>make a rule for myself where I'm not allowed to follow someone on the site if I already followed them elsewhere in order to keep things fresh, find some cool lesser known people
>platform was too small to really make any waves, also get new job so can't make as much art to post at all, slowly forget about bluesky over time
>big resurgence over the past week as it fully opens up so I return
>its literally the same as twitter now
>artists who were already popular flooded with follows, only ever communicate with each other
>always "mutuals" "moots" lets do xyz trend together, give me ideas for xyz, bla bla bla, never interested in upcoming artists or even people who have bad art but a cool story
>just treat everything with an "I got mine, fuck everybody else" approach like baby boomers
>their drone followers just follow the people who are already big everywhere else and just repost shit that was already big
>another website that just devolves strictly into a popularity contest purely due to spillover from other sites where they already had footing
I know art is one of those things where you get good first and then you get the following second, unless you have some niche thing where starved supporters will shower you from the start, but man I'm getting really tired of this shit. You're either already popular and therefore have eyes on your work which could translate into comms or patreon supporters, or you're forced to play the lottery every day until the algorithm decides to give you something. Everybody slammed that guy years ago over that comic where the big artist was allergic to reposting smaller artist's works but the bigger artists really do control the whole flow of this shit and just pretend not to.

>> No.7052684

>>7052646
>goes from twatter to twatter but with less shit
>yo why is everything the same?
>Everybody slammed that guy years ago over that comic where the big artist was allergic to reposting smaller artist's works but the bigger artists really do control the whole flow of this shit and just pretend not to.
If you want to know who makes the rules, you just have to find out who you are not allowed to criticize.

it's the same comic as the one with the nsfw in the pot, or the guy with the oc or the ones claiming the government was brainwashing people in the 60s
Time always shows they were correct all along.

>> No.7053129

Everyone says twitter but it hasn't really worked for me desu. Been posting my work on there for a year and I'm still sitting at 0 followers. It was a bit easier for me to grow on instagram, I'm still a really small account but I managed to accumulate some followers at least. However, recent changes in the algo have fucked it up so your followers don't always see your posts and it's basically impossible to grow unless you're a large account, buy ads or post reels like crazy. Tiktok has also worked better for me than twitter, one of my posts blew up and got me a couple hundred followers. But it's inconsistent, a couple posts have tens of thousands of views while most others only have a few hundred. I also tried pixiv, basically got no interaction posting my normal art so I made a new one where I posted anime stuff. Then I got a couple followers, none of my posts blew up but I get some interaction. Twitter has been the hardest to crack from my experience, maybe cause I'm starting from 0? In terms of reach though, tiktok is the best platform.

Basically, insta used to be ok but it's dead. It's very hard to grow from 0 on twitter. Tiktok is the best in terms of reach and pixiv is ok if you're doing anime stuff. They're all shit at this point from my experience. Wish there was a good forum or something out there but those days are gone.

>> No.7054759

>>7052445
Twitter is aids with their megacorpo monetizeable trash approach as they can shadowban you pretty easily. If you are starting out its not even worth considering as your main platform.
Misskey was supposed to leave the cancer culture behind, but as you see it didn't quite work out. Bluesky is very baby steps imo, as there is no clear indicator what kind of platform it is yet. It'll be clear in a few months tho.

The devs should state: this is for art, not your cringe blog where you take pictures the food you ate, or have political meltdowns. If >>7052646 is right then its just pointless. I honestly think you get more by just sticking to pixiv.

>>7053129
Check that site if you are shadowbanned, or any type of softban is applied to your account. I got immediately search suggestion ban the moment I posted my art.

>> No.7054766

everyone on this board should be gassed and thrown in a landfill
imagine asking this herd of cumbrains what's the best platform and getting only answers based on which one allows CP and other diarrhea
you fucking disgust me, I bet you're all brown little mutts and actual niggers

>> No.7054905

e621 no contest.

>> No.7054924

>>7054766
Doubt it when the retards here unironically use asian jeans or ligameme for the reason why they can’t draw

>> No.7055900

>>7054905
finally someone speaks the truth

>> No.7055901

>>7032506
dA doesn't ban art but does something better, it exposes how much people actually hate it since you can't bot favorites like you can likes/shares in twitter/tumbler/etc.
Even legitimately good AI art has 10 or less favorites while Sanic recolors have dozens to hundreds.

>> No.7055905

>>7044627
I just post my shit to dA and Facebook once or twice a month and get a couple hundred faves and a couple commission inquiries

It's almost like twitter engagement is not real and never has been

>> No.7055912

>>7054905
>doesn't allow human only content
>mods are schizos that'll ban you for arbitrary reasons
no

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>>7032506
newgrounds excludes ai art from the art portal

>> No.7056515

>>7032135
My parent's fridge

>> No.7057460

>>7052646
Artists from here should band together and build our own clique then. Post your @

>> No.7057537

>>7032135
Twitter mainly and art niche sites.

Ignore bluesky unless you're one of the retards that think twitter is failing cause you read some articles and dislike musk. Then by all means please go with the rest of the faggot they thems.

>> No.7057538

>>7032506
Any site that doesnt allow it to be categorized cause some mouth breathers is a failing site. Aka Newgrounds

>> No.7057544

>>7037875
Twitters shit moderation was fixed when elon bought it. Alot of people got their banned accounts back that were banned for retarded snowflake reasons.

The they thems migrated to blue sky. Sure theyll be back in a week cause ultimately twitter is where its at, but it's something.

>> No.7057550

>>7042518
Literally just use your account for a week normally and it gets removed.

If you dislike musk cause he hurt your feelings thats one thing but hes not ceo of twitter and hasnt been for some time.

>> No.7057553

>>7044643
then ignore them retard, its just text jfc

>> No.7057554

>>7047217
Def cause your art sucks and you not understanding how to grow on social media in general. It aint hard.

>> No.7057563

>>7052445
The point of bluesky is its there if you dont like musk, think everyone is a neo nazi, think pronouns are cool, or is a furry.

Twitter / X post elon is pretty free of speech. Everyone has a say regardless of ideology. However you will get shadow banned or banned outright for calling someone a nigger or any slur and its reported.

>> No.7057574

>>7052583
Basically trannys and furrys. They killed the site on arrival. Literally no one likes thens and if they "champion" your site, you are fucked.

>> No.7057581

>>7053129
Cause you work sucks and you dont know how to play the social media game. People have to care what you tweet to follow you.

I swear its always "the algorithm " instead of taking accountability and realizing maybe you're just not that interesting.

>> No.7057588

>>7057563
You mean bot central? There are 3-4 times more bots spamming in the comments now.

>> No.7057836

>>7057581
>Cause you work sucks
nah, there's people way worse than me with 10x as many followers. I'm talking about people that would make the average /beg/ poster look good. Skill and followers aren't strongly correlated.

>you dont know how to play the social media game
This is true, I just post my art and that's it. Don't tweet anything except my work with some hashtags and don't spend any time engaging with others.

Anyways, I was just sharing my experience with posting on different platforms, not complaining about the algorithm.

>> No.7058514
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7058514

>>7057581
if youre required to play the social media game then it stops being about the quality of your work entirely.

i swear its always some cunt trying to pretend anime isnt more popular than oil painting and sitting on some fuckin fence somewhere acting like there ISNT an algorithm.

what the fuck does an artist being interesting have to do with creating skilled work? you think early 20 something weebs drawing flavor of the month anime PURELY for follower count are interesting? get a fuckin grip

making good work that you like and want to make and making work for growth are completely separate circles on Twitter after AND before a certain point. theres a sweet spot of forgoing your own whims and catering to an audience that completely grips you and is almost impossible to shake, especially when trends pick you up and youre identified as a certain artist.

that said. idgaf, i draw what i want regardless of engagement. it bought me a 5600 and new mobo recently

>> No.7058653

>>7058514
What exactly is even the difference between likes and bookmarks on pixiv?

>>7057563
I take furries over a retarded platform which simply lives off outrage culture.
>Twitter / X post elon is pretty free of speech
Oh so we are dealing with a migatard caliber here.
If he gave a shit you wouldn't have 5 types of shadowbans still.

The bots are completely out of control and your trustfund kid's team's best idea was to DDoS the platform itself to "get rid" of them. Do you know what happened? They multiplied. Now some of the bots are even using chatgpt, and its safe to say 60% of the traffic is not human. There are more bots now than humans.
The only good feature is the media tab change.

>> No.7058661

>>7058653
dunno. could not fuckin tell you. when i press the heart it shows up in my bookmarks. I dont even know how one goes about choosing to either like or bookmark.

i just draw the butt and then post the butt i aint got time for metagaming

>> No.7058671

>>7047217
pyw

>> No.7059054

Art social media is so blackpilling.
The amount of times I've seen extremely good art get overshadowed by /beg/ shit is baffling. Makes no sense to me.
It's all just a game

>> No.7059105

>>7059054
Blame the algorithm, it’s heavily favored fast and simple content(most /beg/s artwork). Unless you’re like hungryclicker, then putting out quality artwork almost on a daily basis would be extremely hard unless you gimp the quality.

>> No.7059124

>>7059105
to be fair, it does make sense. High effort shit is pointless if it's not a portofolio piece or you're getting paid for it. People barely look at your art for 1 second. Make that 1 second line up with the effort it took to make

>> No.7059137

>>7057581
how exactly the "people" will see his twitter post if he has 0 followers you fucking brainless retard? please explain to me how

>> No.7059140

>>7057836
>no trust me, I'm at a professional level!
I'll assume your art is total shit unless you post it and prove otherwise. going months without new followers while posting regularly is an indication you're doing something very very wrong.

>> No.7059143

>>7059137
>how exactly the "people" will see his twitter post if he has 0 followers
almost like it's a social media platform. SOCIAL media. like, you have to interact with other people.

>guys I made hundreds of painting over my lifetime and haven't sold a single one, what the fuck??
>what? try to sell them? no I just have them all in my basement.

>> No.7059145

>>7059143
so he just needs to start DMing people "hey look at my new twitter post!"?

>> No.7059155

>>7059145
So you’re autistic as well? You dumbfuck, all he needs to do is make fanart of popular artist he likes and interact their post or your followers post.

>> No.7059160

>>7059155
>your foloowers post
the whole 0 of them?
>make fanart
oh ok we got the first business plan from the retard, to spam your shit in the comments

>> No.7059165

>>7059155
>You just have to draw other's OC and hopefully they'll repost it and
Then it stops being social.

>> No.7059166

>>7059160
Fuck, you’re so god damn retarded, no wonder you can’t grow a following like the other guy.

>> No.7059169

>>7059165
Did you miss the other things i mentioned? Interact with artist post that you like and people/followers that comment on your post as well.

>> No.7059171

>>7059166
>bro you just need to like make good content bro algorithm is nothing bro
>even tho it's literally the only way anyone could see your posts algorithm is completely irrelevant bro trust me
>just post fanart just spam in replies bro that's the secret way of us cool guys in the game we just draw vtubers and spam in their post replies bro just give people likes just like follow everyone and like some of them will follow you back bro that will never get you shadowbanned bro trust me
just shut the fuck up retard

>> No.7059179

>>7059169
Yeah, and? You have to actually get someone to click the follow button, and a random twitter convo isn't that convincing.
Let's be real, the beginning stage of your followers happens outside of twitter.

>> No.7059183
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7059183

If you don't have any follower base anywhere and start from scratch the site with the most engagement is tiktok right now. Instagram, Twitter, Tumblr and everything else is completely dead for people with 0 followers. Nobody's gonna see your posts except bots. Even accounts with a few thousands followers basically have 0 activity. The ratio of followers to activity is really bad everywhere right now as well. If you have money you have an option to buy ads, but just know that the conversion on ads is bad too. You won't get much from them, but I guess 10 views is better than 0. Maybe in a few years of constant ads you will get some traction.

Tiktok, however, recently introduced the ability to promote your videos. It used to be just ads targeted for brands and products, now it is specifically promotion of your content as a creator and it is targeted for the users of tiktok. And if we will look back at literally every single social media in existence, this is the omen of the end. Tiktok currently at it's final stage before it will become the same dead platform as the rest. What you should do is to use everything, testing ground with your content and refining your style and strategies while waiting for the next big thing after TikTok. Nobody knows what it's gonna be rn, but just pay attention and jump on every hype train. One of them will go to he moon.

>> No.7059194

>>7059145
comment on and retweet other artists posts.
make fanart of big name OCs and tag them in hopes of a retweet
make your account as easily digestible as possible for people looking into your work. have any links to other platforms you're on in the header, have a comm sheet pinned if you do commissions, don't clutter your media tab with garbage memes.
this isn't fucking rocket surgery.

>> No.7059195
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7059195

>>7059183
Nah, this guy grew to 2.5k followers from just 5 post. He doesn’t have a following anywhere else, but twitter. Many artist are like that.

>> No.7059200

>>7059194
Might as well be, since these dumbfucks can’t even do that.

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7059205

>>7059195
This guy won a lottery just from one ticket. Many winners like him

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7059208

>>7059183
you heard the guy >>7059195
time to publicly apologize for daring to say something that gets proven wrong by an exception

>> No.7059221

>>7059208
>>7059205
More examples for you https://x.com/queekchan?s=21&t=0BwyRF4kDKLPsbGpSOM1ag

https://x.com/genniax_?s=21&t=0BwyRF4kDKLPsbGpSOM1ag

https://x.com/spinaroozng?s=21&t=0BwyRF4kDKLPsbGpSOM1ag

https://x.com/jojomama38?s=21&t=0BwyRF4kDKLPsbGpSOM1ag

>> No.7059229
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7059229

>>7059221
No bro we totally believe that anyone who just appears and manages to win the algorithm lottery because he got retweeted by his discord buddies, totally proves wrong that if you're some nobody with 0 reach you have the same chances of winning the algorithm lottery as the guy who was sucking dicks on the porn discords

also sarcasm aside, you only show that you don't know macrostatics

and i didnt click on any of them but i would make an educated guess and say that at least 3 of them draw lewds or nsfw

>> No.7059236

>>7059229
None draw nsfw, but 1 drew lewds, so you’re wrong on that. Just do what >>7059194 said and quit being lazy, you’re just making excuses at this point.

>> No.7059237

>>7059229
2 have established Newgrounds profiles linked right in their profile and all of them primarily draw fanart. Last one gets posted on Knowyourmeme a lot

>> No.7059244

>>7059237
Did you even check the date those newgrounds were made? I know you didn’t click it and just saw assume they were established.

>> No.7059245
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7059245

>>7059236
>none of them draw nsfw
>they all just spam thirstbait
ah fuck i got the very specific word wrong guess any arguments against it is invalid
ah fuck, you outsmarted me anon

ah fuck
lazyexcusesisters we've been had

>> No.7059259
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7059259

>9995 out of 10000 lose the game no matter what they do because they've got no reach
>5 of those 10000 won because they had some network or a coomunity behind them
>that means that 5 is a greater number than 9995 and that the exception makes the rule... when the 5 are playing a different game alltogether and because you're just lazy
holy low iq

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7059260

>>7059245
>thirstbait
?
Stay having no followers, you just hate putting in the work

>> No.7059261

>>7059244
Spinarooz joined NG on 2/22 and Twitter on 7/23
queekchan joined NG on 9/23. While they joined Twitter on 1/23, there is no art until 9/23. A lot of "interacting" (wow cute art, so cute, ettc) with other artists to get eyes on their Twitter

>> No.7059266

>>7059260
>he just keeps lying and cherrypicking
You already got found out by anyone with a pair of eyes

>> No.7059277

>>7059266
>>7059261
You’re right, you’ll never make it and just give up.

>> No.7059279

>>7059277
DDDDD:
nooo anon why would you go on the internet and insult people bro
bro wtf im gon kms now
bro noooooooo
:(((((((

>> No.7059281
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7059281

>>7059221
I analyzed all the links and I found similarities in all of them
>coom
>high engagement in trannie-coded tiktok-damaged sjw culture and fanbases
>anime
I guess you have proven at least one point. If you draw coom anime memes and you are a member of dominant social group online(anime trannies and woke retards) you will be able to gain an audience. I guess it's just not a time for people like me uh oh.

>> No.7059290

>>7059281
Keep making excuses little nigga
Surely you'll make it by not trying.

>> No.7059291

>>7059281
Exactly, so quit art and social media. You obviously aren’t good enough to post art by itself, dislike fanart, and hate interacting with others. Give up

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7059294

>>7059281
Nooo anon no he gon call u a schizo jealous crab pol albino now and you'll be magically wrong
bro noooooooo

you can't analyze things and build an objective observation based on common denominators nooooo that just makes you jealous because you're seething now!!!

>> No.7059296

>hehe you dont get numbers by pandering to mentally ill freaks? haha fucking jealous and lazy you'll never make it haah quit art
Isn't it strange how every time you try to talk about this stuff in an objective manner, these npcs come out of the woodworks hurling insults after insults?

>> No.7059298

>>7059281
It's funny just how much seething you're causing by simply making observations.

Blackpill is social media is just for topical fanart/shouting opinions in an echo chamber for positive reinforcement it is not for the individual who wishes to grow and learn and not waste their time.

>> No.7059301

>>7059290
>>7059291
I'd say pyw, but you clearly won't

>> No.7059303

>>7059291
>post art by itself
We already discussed that it doesn't work, I believe you even said it yourself and the only solution you provided was "reply to others with fan art". I don't belong to elite furry discords servers, what fan art I should draw and to who I send it? All of your examples are basically people of the same social circle. I don't belong there and they won't like me there. If you are saying that this specific group of people is the ONLY art community that is alive now then I guess you are right.

>> No.7059304

>>7059301
You retards who bitch about having no followings didn’t in the first place. You said your art was good, but never pyw work

>> No.7059310

>>7059304
>bitch about no following
Who? You're honestly making shit up because you have NOTHING to latch on
No arguments
Only seething and coping

you're pathetic and probably a prebegshitter with 23 followers that draws autistic homogay ocs getting railed by sonic ocs

Shut the fuck up and kill yourself
You are a nobody

>> No.7059312

>>7059301
What does posting my work have to do with what I said?

>> No.7059317

>>7059312
A lot.

>> No.7059318

>>7059303
using hashtags can get some people to look at your post
if the engagement for the post is relatively high, it will get shown to more people
that was my experience just posting (fan)art, without any social circle / community to speak of

>> No.7059320

>>7059317
>Keep making excuses little nigga
>Surely you'll make it by not trying.
Can you go ahead and explain how my work is relevant?

>> No.7059321

>>7059303
> We already discussed that it doesn't work
Ok
https://x.com/blackholed?s=21&t=0BwyRF4kDKLPsbGpSOM1ag

https://x.com/linween1?s=21&t=0BwyRF4kDKLPsbGpSOM1ag

https://x.com/morryevans?s=21&t=0BwyRF4kDKLPsbGpSOM1ag

https://x.com/lhata4564?s=21&t=0BwyRF4kDKLPsbGpSOM1ag

https://x.com/barkel_tom?s=21&t=0BwyRF4kDKLPsbGpSOM1ag

https://x.com/gogalking?s=21&t=0BwyRF4kDKLPsbGpSOM1ag

https://x.com/nelnalium?s=21&t=0BwyRF4kDKLPsbGpSOM1ag

>> No.7059325

>>7059320
Put your money where your mouth is.
Surely it worked for you, no?

>> No.7059327

>>7059303
i will give you small tip. find Youtuber or Streamer and draw funny joke they made.

I require no compensation for this information

>> No.7059328

>>7059325
So you choose to cope by having people post their own work instead of your own?

>> No.7059330

>>7059321
>1st one
one piece spammer
>2nd
lewds spammer, 2nd image is fotm from sf6
>3rd
also cum-li for sf6
>4th
more coom and fotm
>5th
animator
>6th
also coom
>7th
semifurry coomshit


i guess it is verboten to point out the similarities?

>> No.7059332

>>7059328
the only one coping and seething is you just because some anon was pointing out facts

you only admit that you don't draw
but lemme guess, anyone that replies to you is actually getting trolled and seething, right?

oooeeemgeee anon, i am artiste and i soooo offended and seething right now because me artist me is dumbdumb :(

>> No.7059335

>>7059325
I can say with 100% certainty you won't make it if you don't try. This is true with every single thing you do in life. What the fuck are you even arguing?

>> No.7059336

>>7059330
So anything with women that show the slightest skin or any women at all is coomshit? What do you draw in the first place, you still haven’t pyw, since the start of all of this.

>> No.7059339

>>7059335
Considering retards like >>7059332
These shitters hate putting in the effort to do anything and rather make any excuse to help their feelings.

>> No.7059341
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7059341

>>7059336
>pandering to the lowest common denominator is now pandering to the lowest common denominator?

>>7059335
Anon just pointed out things. No one is complaining about no followers and imaginary numbers.

You are honestly just seething at the truth.

>> No.7059342
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7059342

>"no bro ur just lazy and seething you should also draw and crave social media numbers because i say you need to bro wtf do you mean analyzing? fucking jealous schizo!"

>> No.7059345
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7059345

>"lmao you just have to try.... what do you mean you don't draw fotm coom fanart.... lamoa ur just jealous"

>> No.7059348
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7059348

>"no bro you dont get it... you're just mad that you're not getting likes because you suck and are lazy like lmao and kek ur so jealous. just draw coom, but dont call it coom because then you're just jealous"

>> No.7059352

Oh it's the dumb fuck schizo that talks to himself.

>> No.7059354
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7059354

>"a bunch of women showing a bit of skin is coom now? lol how do this make sense?"

>> No.7059362

im one of the autists with no social graces or will, pixiv is the most successful site in my experience for those who only upload their art and do little to no other interaction, i favorite and follow, and occasionally comment

>> No.7059363
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7059363

>"anyone that proves me wrong like is a schizo!!"

>> No.7059364

>>7059354
Make sure to keep cherry picking, when will you post nelnalium, barkel_tom, etc? Do that so you can win your imaginary argument.

>> No.7059370

>>7059362
Pixiv success don’t mean much when you need to draw anime to get any traction

>> No.7059373
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7059373

>>7032135
Definitively NOT misskey, like it or not, just obey Pixiv guidelines, dont post Sloopa Poopa, and maybe you will have SOMETHING

>> No.7059374

>>7059364
Don't bother, he's genuinely schizophrenic. Like not in the buzzword way people use it here, but actually diagnosed.

>> No.7059376
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7059376

>"uuuuuuuuuuuuhm you're cherrypicking because i say so---- but if that is true how do you explain a minority? haha guess the exception makes the rule! checkmate and ur a schizo so ur magically wrong"
actual damage control

>> No.7059377

i post my stuff on pixiv but i almost never browse it unless i want to look for an specific artist or character
usually what i see is what they steal from pixiv and post on 4chan or reddit
the reason that i don't post on twitter, reddit , deviantart or instagram is simple because it will be ignored if is not the trend of the moment
on pixiv there aways be a weirdo looking for niche stuff and will find you

>> No.7059380

>>7059345
when i see this i think of the range of blues, the lighting, shapes and volume.

im not entirely sure what youre trying to achieve by this mentally ill fixation on "women being attractive".

You want to draw cars draw cars, you want to draw titty draw titty, if you want to find overwhelming popularity at the cost of what you actually like doing then you draw what people want to see, its really not difficult. whether the art is for coom purposes or not is literally irrelevant unless youre a child or otherwise afraid of what people think.

which you clearly are. you wouldnt know based if it walked up and drew a dick on the white house

>> No.7059387
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7059387

>"it is like ME say, because of what ME think, I am the center of reality and MY subjective perception is law and anyone that goes against it is automatically wrong"

>> No.7059391

>>7059363
>thousand likes
>hundred retweets
>only 5 comments, 2 hidden, 3 just emoticon responses

https://twitter.com/linween1/status/1568892666481614848

Mhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

https://twitter.com/Botted_Likes

Its all fakeshit, fuck Internet 3.0

>> No.7059392

>>7059370
most of my highest donating patrons on patreon are korean and japanese and i draw only western videogames, comic book characters and fantasy. Not even popular ones, just whatever i feel like.

Krekkov, JustSomeNoob etc, have all enjoyed moderate success from shitposting whatever they want and the 200k likes 450k bookmarks you might think is the "top tier" of success is the mark of a beginner, incompetent pilot that immediately wants to build a supersonic jet and do airshows in space.

>> No.7059394

If your art is good, you shouldn't have a problem with growing on social media if you're smart with it. Anything else is cope because you won't admit your shit sucks to anyone that's not you and you need to change.

>> No.7059395

>7059376
I know this retard will start foaming the mouth when he goes to the beach or pool

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7059396

>>7059391
NOOOOOO ANON U CANT SAY THAT NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
YOURE UNLEASHING THE GATES OF CUM UPON US
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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7059399

>7059395
>"hehehe u just are a puritan who hates women and you cant go to the pool because u r a PURITAN! hahahaahah fucking chekcmates!!!"

>> No.7059401

>>7059394
if those artists art is good, why do they need to draw fanart fotm coompandering garbage to draw attention?

>> No.7059403

>>7059401
Grow up

>> No.7059406

>>7059401
What do you even draw? No seriously, you went and scroll down to an old post from 2021>>7059399

>> No.7059412
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7059412

>>7059406
What does it matter to you what i draw?
Are you that desperate for a dick measuring competition while trying to unironically flex with other people's dicks?

holy fuck thats pathetic

>> No.7059419

>>7059412
Then don't post your shit online. Keep it to yourself. No one gives a fuck.

>> No.7059421
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7059421

>no one ever mentions followers or how to get them
>"OMG UR SO JEALOUS U WANT FOLLOWERS OMG IM LITERALLY SHAKING RIGHT NOW U SUCK U SUCK U SUCK STOOOOOOP POINTING OUT HOW EVERYONE DRAWS COOOM AAAAAAAAAAAAH"
pic related is me right now

>> No.7059424

>>7059195
Because he cheats https://twitter.com/Botted_Likes

>> No.7059426

why is this tranny having a meltdown again?

>> No.7059428

>>7059424
>botted_likes
>account is botting as well
Wew

>> No.7059443

>>7059426
someone told him if he wants to be successful he has to put in effort.

>> No.7059449

>>7059428
>He is guilty of that BECAUSE......!!!!
>he is just, trust us

You will never be of the opposite sex of a male

>> No.7059448
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7059448

imagine
>be anon
>see anons just sharing their observations wich can be proven factual
>try to prove that observation wrong with an exception i.e. logical fallacies i.e. actual underage retarded logic
>double down and only keep proving yourself wrong
>have no arguments
>start accusing everyone that disagrees with you as having no followers and being jealous
>or otherwise being personally affected by this because you have nothing but personal attacks in a last ditch effort to """"win the argument""""
>start calling everyone a schizo to show how truly not-seething you are and how epic trolling you are
So, we can all agree that to make numbers on twatter, you need to
>pander to trannies, alphabet soups, sjws and coomers
which are basically the same species
>just be as dishonest as you can
>always post the fotm anime fanart and then claim you never do that
>buy followers and likes
>join nsfw discord communities and buy promotion then claim that your huge number of followers is actually your value as a human being and everyone is jealous of you


Man, ngl fr fr no cap i fucking love the misery of others

>> No.7059454

The new cope is here, no one follows me because of bots!!!!! Can’t wait to see the mental gymnastics the perma/beg/ is going to bring

>> No.7059456
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7059456

>COPE SEETHE UR COPING SEETHING AND SEETHING COPING PERMABEG MENTAL GYMNASTICS OMG UR SO PERSONALLY AFFTECTED BY THIS HAHA EPIC BAIT FOLLOWERS ARE EVERYTHING AND IF YOU DONT WANT FOLLOWERS UR COPING
this is misery marinated in fucking lamb sauce

>> No.7059461

>>7059454
this is the same schizo from every eceleb thread that insists that anyone who "made it" just bought bots and pays for patreon subs. do not engage.

>> No.7059469
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7059469

>NOOOO THE ECELEB NEVER CHEATS NOOOOOOOOOO DO NOT ENGAGE PEOPLE WHO SAY THIS STUFF BECAUSE THEYRE SCHIZO MUH ECELEB WOULD NEVER LIE TO ME
18 months aged misery with extra salt

>> No.7059491

>>7059140
no use talking to a brick wall

>> No.7059496

>>7059454
But isnt that true?

>> No.7059507

>>7059491
you never posted your work, and just want us to believe that you're really good?

>> No.7059577

I never thought about this, I have 200 followers on a pixiv account but apparently pixiv is shit should I just abandon it and start again on a more popular platform

>> No.7059587

Unless you have a big account from before 2023 then don't bother with x. Better post on fucking tiktok or facebook at this point.

>> No.7059847
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>>7059577
no. Pixiv is fine. you can even link to a twitter so if people really give a shit theyll follow you there too even if you dont happen to post anything. a retweet from twitter or a visit from a sourced paheal or booru can convert to some inane engagement if that what you care about.

i saw a spike one day on the metrics and found out someone was reposting my work, tagged and sourced all, I didnt give a shit because it was basically free traffic at no extra effort to me

>> No.7062243

>>7059847
Will try

>> No.7062258

>>7059461
They’re not wrong though. Its like an autistic internet e-mafia where they all know each other and blow up over night. I saw a few blow up from maybe a few K subs to over 100k and then several million within a month and stay there. That’s not “organic” growth at all. Vtubers are another good example. Literal who whores that suddenly have pewdiepie tier sub counts and I’ve never heard of them.

>> No.7062259

>>7059587
Do human beings even use twitter? Never had any conversation on there and all the art just has a trillion likes with 0 engagement.

>> No.7062284

>>7062259
Twitter is basically just ecelebs speaking to their followers and a few community bubbles circle
jerking. "Regular" user interactions barely happen anymore, and since Musk took over its 1/2 bots and porn cosplay agencies and you are basically shadowbanned anyway if you do not give him your sheckles.
It's pretty apparent once you compare Twitter to Mastodon where you get as much interaction and discussion with like 15 followers as you get on Twitter with 20000 followers.

>> No.7062317

>>7062284
> since Musk took over its 1/2 bots and porn cosplay agencies
Fucker never cared about free speech or fixing the bot problem, he just wanted to make money. He even said it himself that he’s fine with bots paying for twitter blue cause that brings him extra money. Taking away core features to make blue “reasonable” to get. I can’t look through comments 2 seconds in without seeing crypto, OF fan, and engagement bots farming in the comments.

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>>7062317
It got so bad, that the actual users are weaponizing it on people or post they don’t, so the OP will get spammed.

>> No.7062352

>>7062317
>>7062327
> Mastodon where you get as much interaction and discussion with like 15 followers as you get on Twitter with 20000 followers
Honestly you can easily add another 0 to Twitter for that comparison. I follow a number of midsized Twitter accounts with between 70k and 120k followers, the average amount of Tweet replies they get when they actively ask questions and or try to start discussions is like ~12, of which 1-2 are ALWAYS bots.
> LINK IN BIO

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7062374

Back in my youth I loved browsing Tumblr and DA for crappy beginner fanart on the order of picrel, though this was before R&M. It was extremely cozy.
Which platform, if any, still maintains a thriving community of teenagers and begs sharing sincere art?

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>>7032135
baraag.net

>> No.7063146

>>7059260
the account in picrel used to be the alt account of a pretty big artist. something like @jojodraws. unfortunately all i remember is some art of nicole from TAWOG. either way, all those followers didn't just pop out of the void.

>> No.7063343

>>7062374
Tumblr

>> No.7066295

>>7062327
>this aint being botted at all

>> No.7068612

Inkblot.art or thegarden.gg are two sites i use for art.

>> No.7068995
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7068995

I remember back when I started posting art online back in 2006, dA used to be somewhat of more natural ''growing'' sites, I definitely had some more consistency posting art there, but climb with followers was steady and engagement with audience was palpable with your artistic improvement.

Nowadays, I really can't be bothered to post that much consistently as I did before, but you can't tell me something isn't fucked up when I post my art on Twitter and it get's 100 views and barely one like. And I'm doing art on professional level and have 700+ followers.

All these social media sites are only engaging if you constantly post something, and I mean CONSTANTLY. Like, you are punished if you don't constantly post on that shit of a site (I'm not sure how much do you have to post to 'activate' algorithm).

So, not only you have to chase that improvement (which is normal if you aim to get better) but you also have to fight algorithm bingo to activate any sort of exposure. That shit is draining.

>> No.7070022

>>7068995
Twittet is botted. Its all fake shit