/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.7032095]

Is Yusuke Murata the best artist when it comes to fight choreography and drawing action scenes? If not, who is?

[Anonymous No.7032098]

sakurai gaimon probably.

[Anonymous No.7032106]

>>7032095
George Morikawa (Hajime no Ippo) has better 1v1s, imo, but Murata does better bombastic stuff.

Maybe Akira Toriyama beats them both on pure composition, but that's difficult to tell.

[Anonymous No.7032126]

an animator

[Anonymous No.7032131]

>>7032126
But Murata draws like he's an animator. His mastery of gesture sasuga-tier and he uses that dynamic foreshortening to essentially draw manga keyframes. That's why those animated manga videos of One-Punch Man flow so naturally.

[Anonymous No.7032146]

>>7032095
There was a manga featuring a female lead who used swords that was recommended here a few months ago as a reference for action stuff like this. Anyone remember the name of the manga?

[Anonymous No.7032150]

>>7032095
this looks like utterly generic shounen manga #897. how is this in any way
>the best
of anything?
it's the same
>look he's punching so fast his fists are just a blur of lines!!
>the floor is breaking because he's so powerful!!!!!!!!!!!
that's been used for literally 40+ years now.

[Anonymous No.7032155]

>>7032150
>this looks like utterly generic shounen manga #897.
Okay. You should no problem posting 3 examples of equal quality then.

[Anonymous No.7032162]

>>7032150
To be fair, OPM was set up to kind of parody/play on all of that.

[Anonymous No.7032168]

>>7032155
lil bros never heard of dragon ball or naruto apparently

[Anonymous No.7032178]

>>7032168
Post panels by Toriyama and Kishimoto that have superior fight choreography than Murata's work. It should be easy, right?

[Anonymous No.7032187]

>>7032178
yes

[Anonymous No.7032243]

>>7032095
He might be the best. I also like Kentaro Miura and Hamada Yoshikadu.

[Anonymous No.7032258]

>>7032187
I know Toriyama doesn't draw the manga anymore, but it's sad how much Toyotaro can't measure up to even Toriyama's early draftsmanship. Bro, just isn't on the same level.

[Anonymous No.7032267]

>>7032258
jesus christ is this rea?

[Anonymous No.7032271]

>>7032258
I mean, you can count on your fingers the amount of shonen artists that are close to this level.

[Anonymous No.7032575]

>>7032168
>>7032187
Where are the Kishimoto panels, bro?

[Anonymous No.7032742]

what do you guys think of arakis new art in part 9?

[Anonymous No.7032750]

>>7032575
not that anon and I don't read naruto

[Anonymous No.7032758]

>>7032742
Looks just like the art in part 7 and 8.
IIRC he added some backgrounds in the tankoubon.

Jojo's honestly always had very good fight choreography IMO, though I reckon it peaked in part 4. Not good in the same way OP's asking for though, just good in the sense that it's very compelling page-to-page.

[Anonymous No.7032763]

>>7032742
>top panel has handle in right and with a left hand disarming it
>bottom right it's now wielded in left hand with right hand disarming it
>some sort of joke 300 degree swing through space that was already empty before hand
don't care for this page, at the very least

[Anonymous No.7032769]

>>7032187
Toriyama was and still is the peak of battle mangaka.

[Anonymous No.7032777]

Itagaki

[Anonymous No.7032823]

>>7032098
>sakurai gaimon
his art is honestly great but that chink cant write for shit the ending of ajin was such utter shit

[Anonymous No.7032884]

>>7032131
That shot would be missing a lot of keyframes if it was animation, he doesn't draw like an animator doing his work. That is closer to storyboard than keyframes

[Anonymous No.7032885]

>>7032187
A master of his craft

[Anonymous No.7032923]

>>7032095
Murakami, Murata, and Toriyama are the holy trinity of fight choreography

[Anonymous No.7032928]

>>7032095
Agreed he's probably the best manga artist around, periodt.
I'm also a big fan of Baki even though it's not as flashy, but the art and fights no matter how short they are are very satisfying.

[Anonymous No.7032938]

>>7032258
Jiren just doesn't have the skin piccolo does. Its like berserk, the art is pretty good but all the hatching makes people think it's crazy like some jing Jung gi shit.
Rendering > Art

[Anonymous No.7032942]

>>7032938
the hatching is what shows the form

[Anonymous No.7032949]

>>7032187
Why the FUCK do they switch sides

[Anonymous No.7032957]

>>7032095
Jang Sung-Rak (Dubu) - The artist for Solo leveling definitely has a BOAT case especially for the manwha scrolling format.

but again people like Toriyama and others paved the way

[Anonymous No.7032962]

>>7032258
there’s like 3 mangaka alive that can match toriyama, don’t let the simplicity fool you

[Anonymous No.7032964]

>>7032949
For a more interesting scene composition

[Anonymous No.7032968]

>>7032938
This is such a cope, we all know even if Toriyama didn't have hatching at his disposal, he would absolutely destroy toyotaro with composition and creativity alone, and it'll be clear as day. go look at any fight scene from the buu saga, a burnt out rushed toriyama would produce better work fight scene wise. His carbon copy is not as good as the original and it's not even close.

[Anonymous No.7032976]

I like this guy

[Anonymous No.7032979]

>>7032964
It's literally one of the things the composition books say to try to not do if you can at all. Audiences get confused if there's a sudden switch and there wasn't an transition panel beforehand. It's not going to stop anything, but it does make them do a double take for a second.

[Anonymous No.7032992]

>>7032979
composition books are a meme for self taught brainlets, it’s just (figuratively) pasting the golden ratio on random pictures and going A-HA!
if you actually went to art school, you’d have caught on to 90% of theory being invented post fact to justify giving shitty artists jobs tangentially related to art

[Anonymous No.7032999]

>>7032131
>>7032095
I don't like him because it's just way too messy.
There's way too many things and lines being thrown around for the sake of dynamicism that you lose track of what is actually happening.

Take the 2nd image for example, the big panel. You have to actively study what the fuck is going on to understand how the action is taking place, and even then it just looks like it's going in circles.While it looks impressive there's a clear lack of flow to the scenes and it's just relying on big lines and generic explosions.

I find that's really most of what Murata does, it looks pretty but like a lot of Japanese anime styles, it really just boils down to a pretty picture followed by a giant laser beam. And we're supposed to ooo and aaa about how cool laser beams are.

[Anonymous No.7033003]

>>7032976
>Heh, with my superior DEX I'm sure to wi- ACK!

[Anonymous No.7033009]

>>7032979
Toriyama knows the rules well enough to break them.

[Anonymous No.7033021]

>>7032095
the author from Sakamoto Days is so fkn good when it comes to choreography and fight scenes.

That guy has been cooking for a while and cant wait for the anime to be announced.

[Anonymous No.7033024]

>>7032979
>the composition books
when will you faggots learn there are no rules in art?
>b-b-but the books!!

[Anonymous No.7033041]

>>7032095
not a mangaka, but this guy is pog

[Anonymous No.7033042]

>>7032949
like most things with comics, its a psychological thing. Toriyama is breaking the rules to make a bigger impact. Switching the sides makes it click in your brain that something changed, and in this case, goku just got landed a critical good blow after being charged at. Not only this, but it creates a zig-zag pattern from the panel before it to lead you into the next page smoothly (sicne we are reading right to left).
So really its not just one factor, but a few reasons as to why Toryiama would choose to do this. Plain and simple though, he is just a master of his craft.

[Anonymous No.7033043]

>>7033042
Example

[Anonymous No.7033064]

>>7032095
toriyama literally studied jackie chan flicks and organized them according to his films and jackie is one of the best fight choreographers if not the best of all time

[Anonymous No.7033068]

>>7033043
I bet there is an obscure chinese kung fu film that applied this flow.

>>7033064
JC is really good, but man there are tons of chink films with execelent action shots.

[Anonymous No.7033070]

>>7032949
its due to eyepath
>first panel youre following the curved speed lines which move your eyes towards vegeta
>second panel is fast since your eye moves straight from panel 1 to panel 2 which also works well because vegeta is charging
>panel 3 your eye follows vegetas punch and then goku
>panel 4 your eye moves directly down and you immediately see vegeta where goku was so the result is fast and immediate otherwise if they didnt switch sides, your eye moves in a Z which doesnt work as well in my opinion

thats my analysis anyways

[Anonymous No.7033075]

>>7033043
nevermind this one is better than mine >>7033070 , i didnt pay attention to the arm gesture
toriyama is the goat

[Anonymous No.7033086]

>>7033068
other than Bruce Lee, Jackie of course, and maybe Donnie yen, who else is there?

[Anonymous No.7033105]

>>7032095
Not sure if this counts as "fight" choreography but Yusuke Nomura has made some incredibly hype sequences

[Anonymous No.7033109]

>>7033075
>>7033105

left to right, gave it a similar red throughline for how the reader's eye is led throughout

[Anonymous No.7033196]

Any mangaka with strong fundamentals (in regards to figure drawing especially) and detailed art styles you guys would recommend?
I really like Hiroaki Samura

[Anonymous No.7033211]

>>7033196
Boichi, George Morikawa, Makoto Yukimura

[Anonymous No.7033213]

>>7033086
There are tons, another one I like is Lam Ching-ying

There are some many obscure Chinese films with actually pretty interesting shots and ideas, this is a great channel streaming kung fu and horror films

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[Anonymous No.7033325]

>>7033213
o damn you're right Lam is one of the 1980's ogs

[Anonymous No.7033340]

>>7032095
no, hes garbage. all one punch that is good is copy and paste of the webcomic, which means just doing finishes on ONEs composition, panelling and storytelling. look at monster hunter association and current retarded ninja stuff. its horrid and the art quality has fallen off a cliff. hes literally garbage on his own.

[Anonymous No.7033365]

>>7033196
taniguchi jiro, but be warned, he worked deep in boomer territory.

[Anonymous No.7033370]

>>7032742
Can someone explain what is going on with that arm on the right? Is it breaking?

[Anonymous No.7033381]

>>7033370
look the next pane , it not the guy in black's arm

[Anonymous No.7033383]

>>7032095
Didn't read, post Fubuki.

[Anonymous No.7033387]

>>7033381
What a fucking disaster of a page.

[Anonymous No.7033389]

>>7033383

[Anonymous No.7033412]

It lifts my spirits to know none of you are gmi

[Anonymous No.7033435]

>>7032949
>all this talk of panel flow
Real answer is probably just so you can see his expression as he's hit. The flow is good but it's likely not what he was thinking when he had them switch sides, since the panel could be drawn in such a way that the same flow applies with a similar shot to the previous panel.
180 rule, just like all rules, is a bit of a meme. Applicable in general, but plenty of circumstances might call for breaking it and an artist who knows what they're doing can absolutely break it without confusing the reader. I mean shit, shot/reverse shot is one of the most basic tools and it inherently breaks it.

[Anonymous No.7033471]

>>7033389
just had to do it

[Anonymous No.7033483]

>>7033471
i'd rather touch her sister's

[Anonymous No.7033525]

some mangakas want to create fights that are more creative or innovative, or simply more ambitious, than two Down's syndrome patients fighting with le punches and le energy balls.

[Anonymous No.7033528]

some mangakas want to create fights that are more creative or innovative, or simply more ambitious, than two trisomics fighting with fists and energy balls in empty backgrounds.

[Anonymous No.7033751]

>>7032992
So you're saying art school isn't worth the money?

[Anonymous No.7033753]

>>7032777
is this mf even drawing humans at this point

[Anonymous No.7033780]

>>7033435
You are correct, but it is also more psychological like that. Breaking the 180 rule DOES jar the page up, but if you know what you are doing, you can use it to great effect. This us why mangaka even use tilted panels and such. You CAN wing it, or you can use tilted panels to increase the speed of your page. Comics are like 90% psychological

[Anonymous No.7033806]

>>7032187
>>7032258
>>7032769
>>7033043
silky smooth choreography, it's amazing seeing a master at work.

i think it's his background as gag mangaka that got him this good at communicating this sort of stuff.

[Anonymous No.7036077]

>>7032968
>a mangaka copying a western artist
Toyotarobros are there any depths he hasn't sunk to yet?

[Anonymous No.7036273]

>>7032095
He has assistants, and they all took animation courses.

[Anonymous No.7036326]

Itagaki

[Anonymous No.7036435]

>>7036077
>a mangaka copying a western artist
So, what you're saying is it came full circle?

[Anonymous No.7036438]

>>7032095
i don't think so, i think he would be a better anime director for choreography, manga is all about clarity and brevity, I think old masters like Toriyama and Takahashi were the best at it

pic rel, I think you could actually improve this by just using these panels. Just because they're well drawn don't mean they flow well

[Anonymous No.7036446]

>>7036438
no without the context I'd be thinking
>why the fuck is he throwing an oreo at him

[Anonymous No.7036456]

>>7036273
His assistants don't do the choreography nor do they ink the characters or even a lot of the motion effects though. We see what part he inks, it's all those speed lines/lasers with the exception of the focus lines and speed lines in the background/environment.

>>7036438
>removing the context for the manhole cover
Mate in your version they're doing whatever and then a manhole is suddenly flying out of his hands. You made it LESS clear what happens. Only panel there I could see removing while retaining clarity would be him hitting it with his bat.

[Anonymous No.7036487]

>>7033753
For all the complaints about Baki characters looking weird and fucked up only guys like Pickle, Jack and Yujiro look completely off

Baki, Katsumi, Shibukawa and Kosho look pretty normal by comparison and the background characters just look like dudes

[Anonymous No.7036493]

>>7036456
How do you know? All mangaka in production have 5 more even more assistants helping them draw to get the shit out every month. Especially popular manga. Mangaka who don't do it will lose interest and viewership. They are serious about deadlines unlike capeshit.

[Anonymous No.7036498]

>>7036493
there's hundreds of hours of video of him working on it

[Anonymous No.7036499]

>>7036446
i think you might be slow anon
>>7036456
>Mate in your version they're doing whatever and then a manhole is suddenly flying out of his hands
nigga they're fighting on a street and the hole is right next to garou and where the fuck could a manhole come from anyway?
It's like if they were fighting in an office and someone threw a stapler, you don't need context clues for that

[Anonymous No.7036502]

>>7033021
>>7032777
>>7036326
>posts pages where no motion is happening
are these trollposts?
Anyway, Itagaki "cheats" by drawing every punch at 4fps (frames per strike) and never changes angle, making it a flipbook. This works for him but would totally wreck the pacing in a different manga
The sakamoto days mangaka is more creative than anything, the choreography is amazing once you figure it out but sometimes it's hard to see what's happening

[Anonymous No.7036517]

>>7036502
can you elaborate more on that 4 “frames per strike” anon.

[Anonymous No.7036527]

>>7036517
he takes 4 panels to draw a single punch
sometimes more
It naturally flows well because its literally an animation

[Anonymous No.7036542]

>>7036527
I always thought of his panelling in a slightly different manner but when you call it like that I can’t say you’re wrong lmao.
who would you say does pacing better then?

[Anonymous No.7036573]

>>7036493
https://twitcasting.tv/nebu_kuro/archive/
I forget the original stream site, but he stream(ed?) regularly.

>>7036499
>nigga they're fighting on a street and the hole is right next to garou and where the fuck could a manhole come from anyway?
We still need to have some kind of connective tissue. The way you're describing is a more compressed version of the storytelling he's going for. It simply wouldn't fit. Yes, you could cut panels. It wouldn't make it better. This isn't a /v/ thread where everyone's trying to cut the wordswordswords out of webcomics, you're cutting the action out of an action comic.

[Anonymous No.7036583]

>>7036502
>Anyway, Itagaki "cheats" by drawing every punch at 4fps (frames per strike) and never changes angle, making it a flipbook. This works for him but would totally wreck the pacing in a different manga
That's really not accurate, the fights are generally quite dynamic overall. He does utilize a "still shot" to show a continuous sequence a lot, but really the choreography just isn't suited for posting on an imageboard because it makes heavy use of page-turns -- meaning it's inherently split up among a bunch of pages. He doesn't just draw out every hit like you're saying, nor does he keep one single angle constantly. He utilizes a bunch of different techniques to create a compelling fight, even if it's not as flashy what Murata's doing.
Basically what Murata does is show big actions, like a character bouncing around in a scene, while Itagaki uses a constant angle when he needs to show more intricate actions or to emphasize the length of an exchange, which is fairly often (since he's drawing relatively grounded martial arts rather than superpower action).

[Anonymous No.7036608]

>>7036583
>4 panel punch attempt
>overlaps with a 4 panel counter attack
Seems like anon nailed it to be quite honest with you.

[Anonymous No.7036610]

>>7032095
>If not, who is?
Gege

[Anonymous No.7036614]

>>7036610
Can't tell if troll attempt or shittaste. If the latter, read actually good manga.

[Anonymous No.7036619]

>>7036614
Jjk fights are peak

[Anonymous No.7036634]

>>7036438
Damn you're so right. By simply cutting out 2 chapters, I've condensed the whole fight to 2 panels

[Anonymous No.7036637]

>>7032146
maybe battle angel alita?

[Anonymous No.7036747]

>>7036517
It looks ubergood though

[Anonymous No.7036750]

>>7036634
Unironically an improvement for what was ostensibly a gag manga at the outset before turning into generic shounen battles.

[Anonymous No.7036840]

>>7036634
characters switch sides between frames tho, might want to flip the second pane,l at least to keep it clear...

[Anonymous No.7036875]

>>7032095
>>7032131
the pedo who draws tsugumomo is one of the best artists I've seen

[Anonymous No.7037007]

I think the best is an underated artist named Takayuki Yamaguchi wich he has proven with he's most popular work Shigurui set in 16th century Japan. The fights are relatively realistic, dynamic and detailed.

[Anonymous No.7037085]

>>7036498
Streaming some pages he works on doesnt mean he does them all.

[Anonymous No.7037094]

>>7036499
>It's like if they were fighting in an office and someone threw a stapler, you don't need context clues for that


You actually do.

WHERE the object is and HOW they grab it determines the flow of the next action. Manhole covers are awkward to pick up with your hands because you need a tool to do it, so Garou slams the ground to launch it upwards.

[Anonymous No.7037095]

>All mangaka in production have 5 more even more assistants helping them draw to get the shit out every month. Mangaka who don't do it will lose interest and viewership.
I forgot to point out that this statement is very questionable. Yes, many authors hire assistants. No, that doesn't mean all manga is made in this manner. Many manga have simpler styles or styles that the author can draw on their own or mostly on their own. The idea that all manga is only drawn with a team reeks of sour grapes propaganda from salty crabs on /ic/.
For one thing, a "team of 5 or more assistants" is a misleading statement. It conjures an image of a full office, but in reality most (not all) assistants do it as a part time job. Meaning, they're not always there or not always available, therefore the mangaka has to hire multiple assistants part time to do the work that one or two full-time assistants could do. And again, the assistants aren't even the one doing the choreography so having a team of assistants has no bearing on the author's skill depicting fight choreography. Even in a manga inked entirely by assistants, the author is still the one writing and storyboarding it all.

>>7037085
No, but it answers the question of "how do you know (he draws x parts of the page)". We know because there's video evidence of which parts he draws and which parts the assistants draw.

[Anonymous No.7037097]

>>7032095
No, Gege Akutami and Itagaki Kensuke are so much better.
Murata relys on flashy effecs and his fights are full of stiff poses with little perspective change.
I want to see a fights every action not just what the author wants to draw.

[Anonymous No.7037101]

>>7037097

[Anonymous No.7037103]

>>7037101

[Anonymous No.7037122]

>>7037103
>>7037101
I can't really get into the style of jjk, but yea the fights look pretty nice! Just a little too loose for my taste. I feel like Blade of the Immortal hits the perfect spot of not too lose, not too tight

[Anonymous No.7037160]

>>7037097
>No, Gege Akutami and Itagaki Kensuke are so much better.
You're insane

[Anonymous No.7037167]

>>7037007
damn that panel goes hard

[Anonymous No.7037338]

>>7036875
damn just checked this out, its so good

[Anonymous No.7038536]

>>7036875
It's still so odd to me that the guy who's only interested in drawing smut is also so great at fight choreography

[Anonymous No.7038545]

>>7038536
>the guy who's only interested in drawing smut
I dunno where you got this idea. Even if he's been on record saying as such, his actions clearly demonstrate otherwise. He absolutely could just draw eromanga instead if that's all he wanted to do, but he went with publication that allows him to tell a more involved serialized story, because he's clearly interested in doing more than just drawing smut.

[Anonymous No.7038552]

>>7038545
It's an awful lot of smut.

[Anonymous No.7042879]

Bump

[Anonymous No.7042945]

Itoh Sei
I've never seen anyone matchup to the level of violence he can protray

[Anonymous No.7042950]

>>7042945
Another is Azuma Kyotaro, artist behing KOF and Tenkaichi. A new favorite of mine.
Great fight choreography, a show-off that's always fun, and a very clean artstyle

[Anonymous No.7044165]

>>7036487
>For all the complaints about Baki characters looking weird and fucked up only guys like Pickle, Jack and Yujiro look completely off

[Anonymous No.7044312]

>>7038545
We just live in a society that fails to value smut as the artform that it is.

You can never make a living off of drawing smut, sometimes you have to draw battle manga to pay the bills and just draw your real interests on the side.

[Anonymous No.7044355]

>>7044312
>You can never make a living off of drawing smut
What the fuck are you smoking? There's loads of mangaka who only draw porn. It's not even rare.

[Anonymous No.7044381]

>>7044355
those are usually women who are supported by their husbands.

it's impossible to make money off porn, people only care about action.

[Anonymous No.7044426]

>>7044381
You have no proof whatsoever while there's mountains of evidence of authors who demonstrably make big money. Your ignorance is embarrassing.
Here, I'll spoonfeed you somebody who's made loads of money drawing porno manga exclusively.
https://www.dlsite.com/books/fsr/=/language/jp/sex_category/male/keyword/ぞんだ/work_category/books
He's not a special case, there's loads and loads of authors in the same boat.

[Anonymous No.7044668]

>>7044312
>We just live in a society that fails to value smut as the artform that it is.
Kill yourself you retarded nigger

[Anonymous No.7045236]

>>7044426

This is fascinating! Is there any way to know much money is he making per month or year??

[Anonymous No.7045290]

>>7032095
no, hes fucking horrible. the only time opm is good is when he is copying one for one the webcomic panels and composition and story. every time he adds on, you get reatrded shit like entire monster hunter arc and beyond. shit like garou fight redone a week or two later. the lazy, generic ninja shit we have now. hes a shit artist with some technical skill. he has no talent for telling stories or composition. its why he is only relevant because ONE allowed him to redraw panel for panel the web comic. adding a million speed lines doesnt make something good.

[Anonymous No.7045532]

>>7045290
>no, hes fucking horrible.
I don't even like OPM and I don't particularly like Murata but saying that Murata is shit is unhinged and you're retarded
I remember years ago when Vagabond was the meme FOTM manga people were saying that Takehiko Inoue was shit which is even more insane. And now that I remember it, back when Superani was all the rage, people here were starting to say that KJG was shit too LMAO. I never liked KJG but he was obviously a one of a kind type of master.
Jesus Christ, you don't have to suck someone's cock to admit he's skilled. Just say "I don't like him" instead of saying shit that makes you look like a retard. It's perfectly reasonable to say "he's really good but I don't like the way he draws", you know. Are you fags Indian or something like that? Only someone with 3rd worlder IQ would spew this stupid shit

[Anonymous No.7045627]

>>7045236
Self reported sales numbers give us a hint. For example his most recent book has sold at least 18000 copies. We know that the listed price is 1200yen, we know that DLsite takes half of that (dunno about DMM but for simplicity let's assume parity) and I know that the publisher splits digital sales 50/50 with the author. If we lowball the estimate and assume the average sale was 900yen through sales, that means he made a little over 4 million yen (roughly 27k USD). That's just one book just in digital, the print sales are typically significantly higher, but it's the publisher who tends to report those and this publisher's twitter has been killed a couple of times since this book came out.
The page rate with this publisher starts at 8000 yen a page, but Zonda's a popular artist and has been around for a few books, so let's assume he's paid 10000 yen a page. The book is around 190 pages so that's another 13k USD on top, so just with the numbers we know he's made roughly 40k USD.
If we're conservative and assume the print sales is only 1.5 times the digital sales, and we assume it retails for the same price (minus the sales), that would be another 22k USD.

So just that one book within the first year of release made him over 60k USD. This isn't accounting for any sales from all his other books that the new release caused and it isn't accounting for any other money the book brought in, we just looked at that one specific book's sales/page rate. And the book hasn't gone anywhere, it'll continue to sell over time.
Now 60k USD doesn't sound that great depending on where they live, but we know they live in japan and we know that japan is a pretty affordable place to live. 60k is good money.

[Anonymous No.7045678]

>>7036502
>>posts pages where no motion is happening

[Anonymous No.7045851]

>>7045532
vagabond artist is shit. he doesnt draw all the shit on the page. you are confusing digital photobashing backgrounds and details with his art. you can look at the crosshatching and its shit tier. most of the lines are just there and dont delineate anything. they do not conform to the shape of face or cloth. they are lines for lines sake. miura is similar. extremely overrated and blatantly steals designs, compositions and basically traces a lot of his most memorable scenes. and kjg is a fucking busker street performer. his art beyond the gimmick is not impressive nor memorable and no one has a single favorite image or work from him. its like caricature artists. ya, funny image, but no one gives a fuck. muratas art is very stiff when not direclty copying ONEs webcomic panels. all the backgrounds are digital. he doesnt even render anymore with his army of digital assistants giving it that muddy look. just go load up most recent chapters and compare to the early chapters. its like watching someone that had a stroke and kept drawing with how degraded the art is.

you not knowing how this art is made and what is or isnt drawn or how it was created is the issue her. you think because it looks good to you that it is actually good. you think because it was printed and published, it must be all drawn or they wouldnt let these hacks publish. you are wrong.

[Anonymous No.7045906]

>>7045627

HOLY SHIT! Those are amazing numbers! Almost 12 times the minimum wage here.

Damn I wish I was born in Japan now LOL.

Do you happen to know if there are authors selling successfully in the american market, for instance Fakku (an american site which sells hentai translated in English).

Damn that Zonda dude is definetely living the dream

[Anonymous No.7045924]

>>7045906
You don't need to live in japan to do this.
>Do you happen to know if there are authors selling successfully in the american market, for instance Fakku (an american site which sells hentai translated in English).
I have no idea what numbers they sell, or what % the author gets in royalties (if any). I don't keep a tab on this side of the industry, but skimming their twitter it doesn't seem like they report the numbers publicly, so there's nothing to really speculate with.

[Anonymous No.7046189]

>>7045851
You're a fucking retard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nafJE5uR2fs

[Anonymous No.7046302]

>>7044165
I think the more "powerfull" characters, the freakyer they get. Not always. Baki is just short and muscular
One of the best examples of Freakazoids is prolly
Yujiro
has freakishly long forearms and shins but also very very XTRA THICC muscles and veins
Even the jaw muscles and sometimes the chin muscles are shown.
And a very proportionally narow waist.
Basicall i think the author tryed to convey his , speed (shins), strenght( thicc muscles) stamina and power (veins) and the freak of nature factor (all of the above +overly developed facial muscles)
His feet and hands are often also drawn big.
If i had to guess why (at least 1 reason)
It is because his characters use their fists and feet to grab, block , tear, punch and throw so freakishly big hands and feet allow you to see them clearly from more angles and "distances" in fights.

[Anonymous No.7047317]

>>7036502
i think even despite the pacing his grasp on gesture and impact is what really makes the slow buildups work, the hits really "explode" on the page, and his eye for detail (debris, characters wincing in pain, dust and particles in the air, enviroments being destroyed) really ties it together
idk if i'd call him the best but he's one of my personal faves

[Anonymous No.7047412]

>>7036875
All your favorite artists have been and will be pedos. It’s just intrinsic.

[Anonymous No.7047721]

>>7032146
>>7036637
Pretty sure that was Solevision Mitsuyoshi by Tetsuro Ueyama, incredible manga-ka with amazingly dynamic battles and page layouts, woefully underrepresented outside of Japan. Only his short manga Metal Guardian Faust was released here by Viz in the late-90's.

[Anonymous No.7047723]

>>7047721
This was the preceding page of the first one I posted.

[Anonymous No.7047724]

>>7047723

[Anonymous No.7047799]

>>7047412
retard I didn't even know he drew pizza because he only posted the action shit