/int/ & /beg/ - Intermediate and Beginners Thread

[Anonymous No.7025483]

If you are a /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.

>STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view

>PYW and give your feedback
What can be improved? are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them? maybe a redline or a technique, be specific

Previous thread >>7021112

[Anonymous No.7025489]

>>7025483
(from previous thread)
opinions on how to improve my coloring so that things like clothes look better.
Also kind of unrelated: I know a bunch of japanese artists manage to make these super detailed lineart with those very small lines.
How do they go about it?

[Anonymous No.7025492]

>>7025483
Thanks OP, an honor to be featured. Such a working environment would never fail to motivate me.

[Anonymous No.7025516]

[Anonymous No.7025530]

what's the goal in two minute sketches? just general construction? looking at this i can tell i'm still bad at understanding the hip box, rib cage thing (i feel like i am anyway -- will's "three fingered gap" makes me scratch my head)

[Anonymous No.7025537]

Finally finished aigis. Learned a lot, thanks to the anons who provided redlines helped me out a lot.

There's probably a lot of perspective issues with it, mechanical detail is hard. but I'm happy with it. Already spent a lot of time on this so gonna work on the next one.

[Anonymous No.7025538]

>>7025489
you need to look at images of clothes in a similar position , the light will have clear edges and follow the wrinkles of the fabric (stop blending lights and shadows and youll be forced to improve)

also you need a clear idea about what the light source is (if you dont already)

change the background to a colour too help make it look like a proper composition and not a floating character

[Anonymous No.7025556]

Any feedback before I keep going with this one? both composition and anatomy would help. I plan on making the background pretty dark with the only source of light being the corner with butterflies. will probably add more hands later

Also, is it worth it going on a autistic hunt for more brushes? I don't know, I don't really like the way my lines look right now, but I feel like it's probably I'm just lacking that confidence. i'm just using one of the brushes in Kyle's manga pack

[Anonymous No.7025570]

I think I'm gonna draw a flat chest bunny now.

[Anonymous No.7025572]

>>7025570
cute, draw a big boob one next time!

[Anonymous No.7025573]

[Anonymous No.7025584]

>>7025489
it looks like you took one of the other anon's redline suggestions from that other thread and just filtered over it increasing the thickness

[Anonymous No.7025586]

>>7025573
SEXOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.7025588]

[Anonymous No.7025603]

One of the very few drawings I felt kind of good about in awhile.

[Anonymous No.7025607]

I can’t line her eyebrows up correctly does anyone know how to get better about that pretty pleas

[Anonymous No.7025623]

I still suck but this is like 10x better than anything I could have drawn 6 weeks ago so I'm grateful for that

[Anonymous No.7025633]

Finally decided to get this finished enough to move on. It was for the crab-chan drawthread. I remember some anon saying something like
>crabs invite themselves to a seat at the table just to flip it over
So I decided to draw that
>>7025489
Your shapes and upper body anatomy are good, I really like the hand on her glasses. The other hand is a mystery to me. Gesture’s not bad, torso’s a little stiff. Practice rendering basic volumes and understanding how light (or modeling tone) works to depict form would help you a lot. Also do more full body poses and/or study hips and thighs and how they connect to the torso. Overall not bad, anon
>>7025516
Do more dynamic full body poses with your signature face style. I think the combo of more realistic bodies with your googley eyes would be fucking kino. You’ve probably done enough straight-on busts and portraits to last you a lifetime. Your faces are among my favorite, and I think you’re limiting your potential by trying to make them generic anime thots. Or, if you can figure out a combo of your googley-eye facial features on a more traditional anime head/face/skull shape, I think you’ll majorly level up.
>>7025530
These look fine. IMO 5m+ is better for us begs. The 3-finger gap is just pointing out that the leg starts a little below the iliac crest. Imagine a pair of panties. If the waistband is at the iliac crest/ASIS, the leg hole is a bit below that. That’s where the leg starts, where the crease forms when you lift your leg. Down at the leg hole, not up at the waistband/iliac crest/ASIS. That’s all the 3-finger gap is
>>7025537
Looks fucking baller. Study heads and you’re mid int
>>7025556
Study hampton’s constructive figure drawing book and videos. Compare her arm lengths to each other and to her torso. Ignore brushes for now. >>7025573
Awesome
>>7025588
Have you done Betty Edwards?
>>7025603
Cool
>>7025607
Looks good to me, man, idk
>>7025623
1,000% improvement is nothing to sneeze at, fren

[Anonymous No.7025638]

>>7025603
it's nice because it has a personality :)

[Anonymous No.7025639]

Any outfit suggestions or recommendations are much appreciated

[Anonymous No.7025643]

>>7025483
>try drawabox during a time in /beg/ when it wasn't shit on as hard
>got pretty far, but it became obvious that the guy was not past the levels he wanted to teach by the time you draw bugs
>quit when it became obvious you are supposed to just durdle in the highest patreon tier to "progress"
>get lost for a while, only really draw geometric shapes and textures for fun for a few months
>eventually assemble them into discernible things, lazily practicing still life
>take art class this semester for fun
>people love my basic shapes
we're all gonna make it. but we gotta DED.

[Anonymous No.7025655]

>>7025584
I asked for input and honestly it was pretty close to what I wanted.
I looked pretty cool and I copied it from my second monitor.
Obviously though I had to make changes since i wanted to add clothes

[Anonymous No.7025659]

>>7025633
Another anon asked me about this several threads back, the tl;dr is that my observational drawing is severely limited due to my setup

[Anonymous No.7025684]

>>7025639
elegant dress
love that style, looks very cool.

[Anonymous No.7025689]

>>7025489
No chin anon, to get those lines you need to redraw to refine a couple of times.

[Anonymous No.7025691]

saturday doodle

[Anonymous No.7025697]

>PAWELL STOPPED DRAWING EVERYDAY

IM FEELING BLACKPILLED BROS

[Anonymous No.7025698]

>>7025691
"doodle"

that look from imagine is my goal gj anon

[Anonymous No.7025699]

>>7025697
You have to draw every day to get good. Just draw.

[Anonymous No.7025710]

>>7025537
Nice job

>>7025691

I think her right breast shouldnt show that much

[Anonymous No.7025711]

>>7025691
I wish I could doodle as fast as you…

[Anonymous No.7025718]

>>7025573
>>7025691
>>7025607

You guys aren't /int/ anymore gtfo and make your own /pro/ general.

[Anonymous No.7025727]

>>7025718
Nobody pays me for this shit, but thanks, anti-crab

[Anonymous No.7025740]

>I got featured
Based and redpilled

[Anonymous No.7025741]

>>7025718
you are too kind anon. I am not even consistently rated int

[Anonymous No.7025745]

[Anonymous No.7025747]

[Anonymous No.7025749]

>>7025643
naw bro im just tired bro

[Anonymous No.7025750]

more mirai on the way

[Anonymous No.7025764]

okay yeah yeah more mirai hold on

[Anonymous No.7025766]

>>7025659
Yeah, that was me. I don't remember, in the answer you gave, you saying you've actually attempted to train observation seriously. Have you actually gone through Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain? Or Keys to Drawing? I remember you saying that because of ergonomics and RSI and funds, you have to use that setup and it's not very clear for you to see stuff on. But I don't think that's a good enough reason to avoid improving your accuracy. If your monitor is okay enough to read on, it's okay enough to practice observational drawing. Maybe turn the light in the room down for reduced glare. Or even put a piece of paper over your tablet there, and use a pencil.

My brother in Christ, you haven't learned to see yet and it's really the only thing holding you back. Doing studies of Hampton and Morpho can't help you until you can accurately see what you're studying. Accuracy is step zero. You may or may not eventually get there by beating your head against the wall for years, but it's so much faster and easier to just work through a book or course that teaches it. It's almost like flipping a "seeing switch" where once you see it, you can't unsee it. I strongly recommend you work through either Betty Edwards's book, Keys to Drawing, Eviston's beg book/course, or Proko's basics course.

[Anonymous No.7025774]

>>7025483

[Anonymous No.7025775]

>>7025774
how long

[Anonymous No.7025778]

>>7025775
4.5 inches flaccid

[Anonymous No.7025781]

>>7025775
do you mean how long to make? around 4 hours i'd say

[Anonymous No.7025791]

>>7025781
4 hours? step it up you fucking slowpoke

[Anonymous No.7025812]

>>7025607
try this

[Anonymous No.7025818]

my friend told me i shouldnt copy manga and learn to construct faces and fundies and shit first
ill try both at the same time i guess

anyway heres a laios

[Anonymous No.7025837]

>>7025812
You are a genius thank you so much

[Anonymous No.7025853]

>>7025774
tiny ear

[Anonymous No.7025855]

>>7025718
>/pro/
based permabeg

[Anonymous No.7025882]

[Anonymous No.7025886]

>>7025855
it's no doubt that nigga cris is more powerful

[Anonymous No.7025890]

Gandalf and the Balrog

[Anonymous No.7025893]

>>7025890
Looks kind of William Blake-ish

[Anonymous No.7025895]

>>7025766
These were all from imagination, by the way. Also, if I don't have any reference explicitly posted next to any drawings, then it was done from memory / imagination. This goes for everything I've ever posted here (which can most of the time be identified with the "Figfig" in the filename)

>>7021172
>>7022117
>>7022508
>>7023345
>>6982089
>>7000779
These were all done from imagination; I constructed these from imagination - there was no reference used in these. Is everything that I’m doing wrong?

Am I really that far off for having drawn for only 1 year and 3 months (start date: Oct 19th 2023)? For all the criticism I’ve gotten, it’s like everybody expects me to be pro already! (Which honestly I find kinda funny / ironic, since I am actually Asian - it's like I can’t get away from insanely high expectations no matter where the hell I go!)

Should I already have all of anatomy and every single plate from Loomis memorized too?

Also trying to get into rendering at the same damn time as well
>>6997461
>>6999448
>>7018934
>>7000701
>>7013473
>>7015009

Finally, I do not deserve such an honorific. I am a degenerate, a heathen, for I want to make smut for a living. My soul is already damned and I curse that there is not an easier way to make money in this cruel world. My true name is Sclavus and before I came to /ic/, I made weird shit in 3D and Unreal Engine (the_sclavus on p-hub, lesclavus on reddit).

[Anonymous No.7025897]

>>7025895
If it doesn't say (you) it's because I also post in Chrome.

[Anonymous No.7025902]

>tfw be only 3 months into learning
>feeling good about my progress
>think to myself "well it's probably about time to learn hands a bit"
>has ruined my self confidence and desire to draw
i know the answer is simply "just study something else" but I feel like I'd be quitting if I did that, but on the other hand my desire to learn stuff really well and make it look good is making me want to fucking kill myself because hands are so hard to do
here's a recent study I did to get an idea

[Anonymous No.7025905]

>>7025895
One year of researching and developing pathfinding functions, all for a fucking game that completely flopped on Steam because the art sucked complete ass. It's why I'm here with /ic/ now.

aHR0cHM6Ly9tZWdhLm56L2ZpbGUvbEZVR1NBYkEjdXBWTkF4QVF0ZFpoYUE5bF9OVkcyVXFHbWhCU2NyZ2N3eWdFb2RIbjJwNA==

If you don't believe I wrote any of that, ask me any question about it, I'll answer it.

For fuck sake man, I'm trying!

Verification not required.

[Anonymous No.7025906]

>>7025905

[Anonymous No.7025910]

>>7025895

[Anonymous No.7025911]

>>7025902
You really need to break it down into simple shapes instead of drawing the contours. Check out hand tutorials on YT.

[Anonymous No.7025912]

>>7025902
Some programs have 3D models that you can use to pose the hands and fingers in whichever way you would like. The studies you've done look pretty good, but you could use those models to get a different approach for practice. Posing it, going over it a layer and mapping out where the bones are, where the joints are bending, breaking it down bit by bit to get all the curves captured.

[Anonymous No.7025916]

>>7025911
well I am trying to do basic hand construction, i'm then just erasing it and trying to match the contour from the construction

which I guess is a bad thing to do? how should I be going about doing it, not trying to make it look alike but rather just getting the hand structure right?
here's some others ive done

[Anonymous No.7025939]

>>7025916
nvm I just wrongly assumed you weren't sketching/constructing it. Keep it up.

[Anonymous No.7025955]

[Anonymous No.7025974]

>>7025939
well we draw or we play sega saturn
which is it

[Anonymous No.7025977]

>>7025916
Why don't you include your construction in the final image, like off to the side or in a low opacity layer?

[Anonymous No.7025983]

>>7025912
>Some programs have 3D models that
CRIS???

[Anonymous No.7025993]

>>7025983
>CRIS???
Is this a person or a program? I've gotten two responses from /ic/ the last week mentioning it.

[Anonymous No.7025994]

>>7025902
>>7025916
Draw real hands bro, you're copying from references that are too style varied or just straight up look like shit

[Anonymous No.7025996]

>>7025977
yeah that's probably a good idea, thanks
>>7025994
idk, I guess I could, I just figured since my main goal was to draw 2d hands that I should do 2d references

[Anonymous No.7026000]

>>7025996
???
Are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.7026003]

>>7026000
probably, still new to drawing like I said so I'm not too in-tuned with the learning process

[Anonymous No.7026005]

>>7025994
>>7025996
>>7026000
like this, nigga. should have used an example next time

[Anonymous No.7026011]

>>7026005
ARE YOU RETARDED???

[Anonymous No.7026014]

>>7026003
It's all good, my bad for calling you retarded, it's just your thinking behind
>I just figured since my main goal was to draw 2d hands that I should do 2d references
doesn't make any sense. The only 2D thing about your and their drawings is that they're on paper. Those hands are drawn living in a 3D space with the use of form, mimicking real life. So don't think of your drawings as 2D and instead try to interpret them as 3D shapes living in a 3D plane, breaking them down into simpler shapes like this guy shows >>7026005

[Anonymous No.7026032]

>>7025902
when I get furious then depressed at my level of skill I try and remind myself that me being able to notice everything wrong is actually good because it means my eye has gotten better at noticing flaws which means I learned something.
also, remember that design>correct

alot of times what makes something look good is not because of how "correct" everything looks, but how it is designed.

thats why I would ignore retards saying you should study from stylized drawings

there is immense value in studying how masters have chosen to DESIGN the human form

[Anonymous No.7026033]

>>7026005
>>7026014
ok thanks
do you have any hand tutorials you recommend? i tried a couple but none of them clicked with me after practicing them

[Anonymous No.7026037]

I’m not going to draw for this thread, either.

[Anonymous No.7026047]

>>7026037
weak ass nigga

[Anonymous No.7026056]

>>7025745
You're sentenced to 3 days encyclopedia of modern bodybuilding to learn how pecs, deltoids, and biceps interact in different positions.

>Verfication not required.

[Anonymous No.7026057]

>>7026056
We're only in it for the Money
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U56sGInCQec

[Anonymous No.7026060]

>>7026056
great reference thanks, someone already pointed out im drawing my pecs detached which ill work on

[Anonymous No.7026061]

I know this is something I'll learn to get used to with experience but not gonna lie it hurts when you've been working on something for hours, wrap it up, take a look back, and realize it's just no good.

[Anonymous No.7026062]

>>7026047
you’re the nigga, faggot

[Anonymous No.7026069]

>>7025895
>>7025897
>>7025905
>>7025906
>>7025910
Ah, okay. I see now. I misunderstood what you were doing. I thought you were drawing from reference, not from imagination.

You need to be drawing predominantly from reference. Do a bunch of figures from reference and then a couple from imagination if you want. like 80/20, I'd say. You've gotta build a visual library by drawing something from reference a LOT before you can reliably draw that thing from imagination. I also noticed that in your imagination drawings you're leaping right into construction. Especially when inventing, you should start with a gesture, then check for proportions, then block in the main masses and construct the body. Then you can add anatomy on top of the mannequin if you want.

Your observation isn't terrible, so you probably don't really need to do Betty Edwards or anything. What you do need to do is use reference.

If you really want to train your imagination muscle, draw from reference, then hide the ref and your drawing and draw it from memory. Then draw the same thing from reference again, comparing it to your memory drawing. Then hide all that again and redraw it from memory again. Finally, compare it to the ref and possibly draw it from reference one last time. That is exhausting and will use up all your brain juice, so only do that kind of training in little bits... but it's very effective.

Also, I noticed that your paintings are a lot better than your drawings. Usually that's not the case. You usually can't paint what you can't draw. At first I though maybe you had magic painting powers. But no. It's just that you were using reference for the paintings and no refs for your drawings.

tl;dr: use refs for 80% of everything you draw for now and you'll be all set

>I am a degenerate, a heathen
We're not so different, you and I

[Anonymous No.7026070]

>>7025905
> mystructs.h
> mystruct.h
jfc youve never worked on a larger C project im guessing.

[Anonymous No.7026079]

>>7025684
Thank you, another friend of mine already suggested an outfit so I drew this but I'll ty to draw that suggestion as well

[Anonymous No.7026087]

>>7025882
Hard to judge as it's just a sketch but try to use more quick gestural lines

[Anonymous No.7026088]

>>7025710
this my friends is what perma /pro/ perma/int/ looks like

[Anonymous No.7026093]

>>7025882
its shit you should try drawing esdeath

[Anonymous No.7026101]

>>7026093

[Anonymous No.7026109]

>>7026101
is it ok if i fap to this?

[Anonymous No.7026113]

>>7026109
yeah

[Anonymous No.7026114]

>>7026079
how do you achieve such straight lines?

[Anonymous No.7026122]

>>7026114
I have big pen size with high hardness for pressure sensitivity so even a slight touch can create a hard bold line, at a large canvas sizes you can get crisp results. I'm not sure about the mechanics of this but I flick at my tablet kinda fast with my arm/wrist a lot lol a lot of lines wont be perfectly straight but even with a slight curve I still get that jagged sharp look I personally like. You could also use line tools/stabilization but they kinda slow things down and I just hate latency because I'm impatient and like to speed through, those tools are usually only for cleanup if ever.

You can do the same sorta thing in traditional if you're inclined >picrelated

[Anonymous No.7026135]

do you think the head is too big? Or should I finish the drawing before making changes?

[Anonymous No.7026138]

oh man im bad

[Anonymous No.7026139]

>>7026138
you have a decade of suffering before you even lay a decent line

[Anonymous No.7026140]

>>7026139
how do I speed run the decade of suffering? i draw on my phone btw

[Anonymous No.7026145]

>>7026140
Drink heavily, it'll be over before you know it.

[Anonymous No.7026148]

I need references of people holding objects casually, without trying to strike some extreme pose
Any recommendations

[Anonymous No.7026152]

Hi /beg/! I've been drawing boxes for weeks while watching peter han's course. I didn't finished the few last videos though. I'm thinking of getting Mogoon's coloso course. Hope it goes well.

[Anonymous No.7026176]

warm up painting

[Anonymous No.7026179]

>>7026148

[Anonymous No.7026180]

>>7026152
Stop drawing square boxes, it is dumb, if you want to study boxes, paint or use charcoal. And use complex shapes, do it live. Get a bunch of square stuff, throw them into a pile, shine a light on it, or keep your set near window light, and you've got yourself a life-drawing session. Good luck, going to paint another.

[Anonymous No.7026183]

>>7026179
LMAO the whore eyeliner, I SWEAR I CANT UNSEE IT NOW.

[Anonymous No.7026191]

>>7026183
I mean, I think it looks cute and unique. You can disregard my paintover, its just my take on your character

[Anonymous No.7026196]

>>7026191
Not my character but the whore eyeliner is a funny touch.

[Anonymous No.7026197]

>>7025483
>>7025483
Hey guys. I need a small drawing tablet mostly for doodles/note taking (for giving feedback to my team's work)/digital signatures. But I'd also like to fool around and begin drawing a little bit. I'm working on a small budget here too, it has to be < $150

Here are the ones I'm considering:

>Wacom Intuos Medium ($100)
>XPPen Artist 10 2nd ($130)
>XPPen Artist 12 2nd ($150)

I'd like to use one with a screen, I just don't know if these cheap options are worth it vs just getting a really reliable tablet that doesn't have a screen.

[Anonymous No.7026205]

>>7026197
wacom intuos is the industry standard. Intuos can last very long, but their nibs burn fast.

[Anonymous No.7026206]

>>7026056
this is great reference material, ill come back in a week w/ more imagination stuff after copying the delt/chest chapter

[Anonymous No.7026208]

>>7026197
Get the Deco Pro. The current intuos has retarded express key layout and anything with a screen at this price point will be complete shit.
>>7026205
no intuos pro is industry standard. The normal one is for students

[Anonymous No.7026211]

>>7025483
I tried this with the exercise of pointing your hand at you with the fingers touching and drawing it

It actually helped a lot, the drawing looked very imperfect, but I feel like it was good to just draw what I see instead of trying to make things perfect.

This is a really good book!

[Anonymous No.7026213]

>>7026208
Is this what you're talking about Anon?

https://www.amazon.com/XP-PEN-Deco-Pro-Graphics-Ultrathin/dp/B07RSRMCBY

[Anonymous No.7026214]

>>7026213

yes

[Anonymous No.7026216]

>>7026214
Thanks Anon. I'll add it to my list. Appreciate the input.

[Anonymous No.7026217]

>>7026179
hmm hmm hmm well you fixed a lot of things but im not sure how much i like these hands more

[Anonymous No.7026220]

unfinished fwap

[Anonymous No.7026226]

>>7026211
Keys to Drawing is quite fun, I never finished it but the early advice is really good

[Anonymous No.7026234]

Fulfilling requests on /v/idya draw thread
https://files.catbox.moe/hiy594.png

[Anonymous No.7026236]

>>7026226
Not missing out on too much. It's a big jump in difficulty for the topics of the last few chapters, they're more abstract with less low hanging fruit to hand out. Like there's no texture equivalent to "learn to draw a real ellipse motherfucker".

[Anonymous No.7026244]

ONE. HOUR. A . DAY.
YOU (me) WILL DRAW FOR ONE HOUR EVERY DAY UNTIL YOU (me) HAVE AT LEAST A SEMBLANCE OF BASIC COMPETENCE, YOU (n/a) BUMBLING FUCKING IDIOT

[Anonymous No.7026246]

>>7026244
fug i accidentally did the esl period spacing on one of those

[Anonymous No.7026265]

>>7026211
PYW

>>7026226
>>7026236
IMO the real problem was that for like 2 chapters its all good, and then chapter 3, youre drawing people from live, and author just says: "yeah, so just get your friend to pose for an hour"....that wont happen. I will finish it tho

[Anonymous No.7026267]

>>7026265
I was the guy last thread who didn't have a tablet yet so I decided to just practice with paper for the moment, I draw my right hand clenched and with fingers pointing at me

I did the clenched one after. I probably should have drawn the nails on the hand but I got a bit lazy

[Anonymous No.7026271]

[Anonymous No.7026277]

>>7026180
I've seen people do that but I think that's for lighting and shadows. I will try that later when start to learn those. For now, I do these square boxes to get a grasp of perspective and to practice my lines :)

[Anonymous No.7026281]

>>7026265
Eh, that's just the exercises being tuned for normalfags, the advice is fully general though.

[Anonymous No.7026304]

>>7026277
it is not just light and shadows, it is also about perspective, the difference is huge, drawing from life versus drawing from pictures. You can move around and draw the same thing from a different perspective, which forces your mind to understand the spatial space.

[Anonymous No.7026305]

What am I doing wrong ? (Medium is watercolour btw)

[Anonymous No.7026317]

https://files.catbox.moe/ke0p48.png

I'm proud of myself for sticking to the habit of drawing for 30 days. some days I hated doing it (26, 31-33), but pushing through was good for my confidence.

[Anonymous No.7026324]

>>7026305
watercolor is hard to master, if you want to do it, I suggest, you think of light and space differently. You apply light first, meaning, the first layer is the highlights, you apply the colors of the highlight, a tint of color, or you can use the paper itself as the highlight, meaning you start directly with shadows. Become like water has never been more accurate, you must understand how it flows and how it puddles, each puddle has a limited time frame where you can apply more paint or mix a type of colors to have a diffused, or gradient effect. I recommend preparing puddles of watercolor, pre-mixed before you start painting.

Tips: Always angle your drawing board to create, each time you paint, you want to see a droplet size puddle, not too much that it drips, not too little that it cannot pond, that way, you have some time to change brushes or add colors.

[Anonymous No.7026331]

>>7026317

[Anonymous No.7026334]

>>7026324
That's some amazing advice, I'll try tilting my drawing pad next time. In this painting in particular, I started with the darker bits, and finished with some light washes, but I wasn't quite happy with the vibrancy, so I ended up using really pigmented washes to try and get the flower to pop. Ended up ruining everything.

[Anonymous No.7026353]

>>7026304
Alright you convinced me. I'll do that as well.

[Anonymous No.7026380]

Thoughts on the bikini designs?
Also, how should I draw the umbrella.

[Anonymous No.7026387]

>>7026317

>>7026138
being bad at something is the first step to being not bad

Some notes off the top: did you do any construction beneath the figure before drawing? I see the shoulder and pelvis lines, but not much else. This guy is slouching something fierce, and your figure is stiffer than a plank of wood leaning against the couch.

>>7026148
Your best bet is to hunt through reference library websites and save what you are looking for. Those resources exist, you just need to search for photos of people doing normal everyday stuff

>>7026220
nice work anon. Haven't done fwap myself but these posts get me interested in trying

>>7026380
Bikini design is ok. The form of the breast of the far right (Maya's?) is doing something weird with the cup of her bikini. Almost like it's sliding off

Umbrellas have are like shallow domes, so you should start with that 3D shape and go from there. currently the umbrella looks very flat

[Anonymous No.7026398]

>>7026244
An hour a day is a great place to start, but fuck some days it's hard to pick up the pencil. We're all gonna make it though

[Anonymous No.7026400]

>>7026398
tell me about it. I used to draw weekly for at least an hour but once the fun died down my pace slowed to a crawl. Now I only draw whenever I randomly get in the mood for it (which can take weeks or months). The other option is to force myself to a schedule but that takes a lot of willpower from me

[Anonymous No.7026418]

>>7026353
There will be a time, when you are in the zone, where the Gods and the muses sing to you, when you are there, draw more than 1 angle. You will be surprised how much you can understand with a good session.

>>7026334
Thank you, there are some cool tricks you can do when you are painting flowers, I like to add a sprinkle of salt, it will create organic shapes, and if done well, it can create an interesting outcome.

[Anonymous No.7026441]

Sup /ic/ I hope you guys are drawing and painting. If you just draw, you gonna make it.

[Anonymous No.7026464]

>>7026418
>There will be a time, when you are in the zone, where the Gods and the muses sing to you, when you are there, draw more than 1 angle. You will be surprised how much you can understand with a good session.
I'll keep that in mind. Thank you!

[Anonymous No.7026548]

What is the best anatomy construction book for retards like me? I struggle the most with the upper body, like the construction and connection of the chest muscles to the shoulder.

It doesn't even have to be a book, it just needs to be a simple method to construct

[Anonymous No.7026583]

>>7026140
take classes and invest in yourself, time is money

[Anonymous No.7026593]

My fift attempt to learn something about perspective.
Previous one
>>7021185
Im still in the process of learning 2 resources. Not nuff tiem due to an increase in daily workload

[Anonymous No.7026615]

[Anonymous No.7026616]

>>7026615

[Anonymous No.7026617]

>>7026616

[Anonymous No.7026670]

Saw a chubby dragon and I had to give it a try, crosshatch is bad but I'm happy with the results.

>>7025691
nice, but I don't like the glutes.

>>7026616
>>7026617
This are fun cool, color them

>>7026441
Since I started forcing myself to color almost everything I do, at least I'm having more fun and I think I have improved a little bit more. So I agree with you.

>>7026152
If you are interested here is a gallery of blobs to reference, the cube might be useful to you, it helped me a lot.
https://idlecanvas-wagmi.web.app/?mode=3d

[Anonymous No.7026678]

>>7026217
okay, then ill steal your girl and draw her naked too >:)

[Anonymous No.7026698]

How do YOU draw when you are sad and everything you do looks like shit?

[Anonymous No.7026704]

>>7026698
draw something easy, protect the journey

[Anonymous No.7026707]

>>7026670
Coloring is too hard. Takes way too much time for it's worth IMO.

[Anonymous No.7026714]

Sup beg, today i lost. Not only i didn't draw for TWO days, i also saw how unbelievably under prepared i am for this. As a cope i will change the way i train figures. Fuck this permabegosis

>>7026593
classic perspective issue: scaling. that car is too short for anyone to fit inside. on other hand the figure atop the box is GIGANTIC
>>7026380
easiest way how to draw umbrella is to yandex it and draw what you see from reference
>>7025697
sorry. but to be fair i never had 100% draw rate. i am just a permabeg, not a machine
>>7025516
lunatic soda is improving. now you just need to stop hiding hands, adding background and do something with value range

[Anonymous No.7026716]

>>7026714
you seem to be in a hurry with your drawings

[Anonymous No.7026717]

>>7025483
I'm trying to learn painting by painting random stuff and things with minor adjustments from the ref

How am I doing and what do I really need to work on more other general grinding

[Anonymous No.7026718]

>>7026707
You're a bitch IMO.

[Anonymous No.7026720]

>>7026717
Forgot to attach the file link
https://files.catbox.moe/beb4c8.png

[Anonymous No.7026731]

>>7026717
>>7026720
use a wider range of saturation and value, using the rgb slider will help you avoid repetitive hues. Your brushwork is good.

>>7026707
nothing is easy, don't procrastinate colors.

>>7026698
when sad draw sad things

>>7026714
drop the books and work on that line quality.

[Anonymous No.7026732]

>>7026707
i know this board has an aversion to rendering but that's where 90% of the casual appeal comes from, nobody cares if you make the greatest linework ever if you never finish it

[Anonymous No.7026734]

>>7026732
I know many artists who don't color their works and their pretty popular. Although I am not drawing for fame or money or anything, I just admire the process. If it's boring, then why bother?

[Anonymous No.7026766]

>>7026714
The figure on top is a BIG statue. I reject your reality and substitute my own

As far as car being too small.
Yee it probably is . Upon some qwikmaths mesuring. A lil More cabin height. Slightly longer cabin and more width and you got a 2 seater
The thing i was going for was a small and expertly hodgepodged muscle car look (small musclecar is an oximoron)
Small yes. Too small? Also yes.
I was more woried about it having "cool " proportion then being practical and eventually completely forgot about trying to make the car proportionally big for the "pilot with a sword"
i will go practice object proportions at different distances then so i dont forgetty again

[Anonymous No.7026779]

>>7026088
Some day ill get a follower, im feeling it.

>>7026101
Gratz on abandoning the wonky face and going for something more realistic

>>7026670
Cute framing

>>7026387

Id like to see more gesture lines

[Anonymous No.7026784]

>>7025483
Which Proko Course should I start with? And does anyone have a link to it?

Thanks

[Anonymous No.7026792]

[Anonymous No.7026798]

>>7026779

The gesture lines are on a layer set to 30%. I do that at the bottom and build on top of it's not very visible

[Anonymous No.7026799]

>>7026798
Can you post top right ref pic?

[Anonymous No.7026802]

>>7026779
>Gratz on abandoning the wonky face and going for something more realistic
thanks
>>7026714
you too nigga pawell, We must embrace pain and burn it as fuel for our journey

[Anonymous No.7026804]

Doctor Who artwork again

[Anonymous No.7026840]

>>7026804
previously

[Anonymous No.7026851]

>>7025483
10 minute figures and admittedly about the same quality as my 2-3 minute gestures. Any help greatly appreciated.

[Anonymous No.7026854]

>>7026851
What's gestural about these? They're much less dynamic than the refs

[Anonymous No.7026861]

>took my sketchbook with me to coffee at my mom's place
>got more drawing done in an hour while socialising with her and a bunch of other family than I do in 4 hours at home by myself
god damn I fucking hate the dopamine leech distractions of the internet

[Anonymous No.7026862]

>>7026861
and yet no work was posted.

[Anonymous No.7026874]

>>7026854
that's kind of the point. my gestures aren't good, either.

[Anonymous No.7026876]

>>7026851
That's more construction drawing than gesture, but it's still a good exercise.

Start with a line of action and then add the direction of the shoulders/hip but in a more exaggerated angle, then a ovoid shape for the ripcage and pelvis, connect them, add some basic shading

[Anonymous No.7026881]

>>7026874
>>7026851
Also I can really recommend the gesture course form brent eviston, it's in the IC- Study torrent in the video course general. Download qbittorrent, use the magnet link and select only the video course so you don't need to download 600gb of video courses.

[Anonymous No.7026883]

So I decided to draw a Sonic character today, so I drew Surge.

The middle sketch I drew first, looked pretty off and cruddy (i messed up the proportions of her arms/hands as well as her torso), but the second one (on the left) which I wanted to try doing a more fancy ambitious pose with...somehow came out looking decent?

No pose references were used. And even the fingers, while not perfect at all, don't look too awful.

I dunno how I was able to even draw that already at this point, I know it doesn't look great (obviously) but that pose feels way too advanced for someone whose still very /beg/ since I've not even been drawing for four months.

Regardless, I am not satisfied with my current skill set, just surprised that I am advancing more I guess compared to when I tried drawing before in the past. It feels weird still, I keep thinking that sketch is a tracing of some other fan art, but I swear to god it isn't.

[Anonymous No.7026888]

>>7026876
>>7026881
yeah, I've been going through Bridgman's Guide to Drawing From Life and copy studies from artists I like, but I've never understood anything but construction, and even that is weak. I'll try your suggestions, though, thanks.

[Anonymous No.7026893]

>>7026799

Not the highest quality version. Should be in the quickposes library somewhere if you're willign to search

[Anonymous No.7026908]

>>7026888
*Hampton's Figure Drawing Design and Invention

[Anonymous No.7027024]

>>7026678
at least use the updated design

[Anonymous No.7027035]

Besides drawing furry shit, porn and trending stuff, is there any other topic that has a high demand for artists?

[Anonymous No.7027038]

>>7026784
Drawing basics
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtG4P3lq8RHHMNwxuVk0IcGRtPGHi4vN9
https://online-courses.club/proko-drawing-basics-by-stan-prokopenko-1-74/

[Anonymous No.7027043]

>>7026032
Good points, anon
>>7026122
Oh, that’s cool. I like seeing digital artists work in trad and seeing the result. Looks great.
>>7026135
Not if she’s a loli. Also, if you’re considering changes, make them as early as possible in the process. Or save a copy of this file to use for making that change if you want to take this drawing closer to a finish as-is
>>7026138
I’d use the version of this with an anime (bunny?) girl as a reference if I were you. Changing the gender and body type of your ref is pretty fucking tricky and adjacent to drawing from imagination… which is extra hard. So chin up, we all suck at least at some things, (even Frazetta often hid the feet) but as long as we keep going we’ll suck less
>>7026152
If you aren’t already, I’d begin to do boxes and organic from imagination if I were you
>>7026176
Oh, it’s a snake
>>7026197
>screen tablet for under $150
Don’t. There’s no way that’ll end well. Also, when I tried XP Pen on a Mac the drivers were unusable and unfixably bad. Maybe things are better now. Just a warning if you use OSX
>>7026220
Looks great
>>7026271
Very nice!
>>7026334
Doesn’t look ruined to me
>>7026317
Based. These look decent. Good job not shying away from heads, hands, or feet!
>>7026380
Well… as costumes, these look pretty good to me as designs. The top on the one on the right looks broken or something. Now, this may not be what you’re going for, and it’s not appropriate in all contexts, but… IMO bikinis are always better when either skimpier or tighter and combined with skindentation and prominent cameltoes.
>>7026387
Try to push the gesture more
>>7026617
These are all great
>>7026670
Cute. I too saw something chubby and had to draw it
>>7026714
Try using pressure opacity
>>7026779
Amazing
>>7026784
His basics course can be found on the online courses club website
>>7026840
Oh I like this one
>>7026874
Try LoveLifeDrawing’s gesture videos and see if they click
>>7026883
Good for you, fren

[Anonymous No.7027048]

[Anonymous No.7027053]

Any advice on getting the lines correctly perpendicular for cylinders and stuff?

It's obviously very skewed and not proportional, so I'm not sure how to fix this.

[Anonymous No.7027058]

>>7027053
Draw more. Look at a can and draw it from lots of positions. Don't just make one(1) fucking cylinder. Make 100. Make more. Ellipses and cylinders are easy to learn yet hard to master. It will be years before you get it 100% and the only way to get there is to draw them

[Anonymous No.7027068]

>>7027053
here's some cylinder exercises and a model viewer
https://www.practicedrawingthis.com/cgi-bin/carousel.cgi?section=newsletter-archive&episode=blog-2022-12-18&src=

[Anonymous No.7027072]

>>7027058
I've been grinding them a lot over the past couple of years, until I gave up. I'm just now starting to try to draw again.

I have tons and tons of pages filled out

Just blind repetition has not been productive for me

[Anonymous No.7027073]

>>7026670
Always find an excuse to color, because it's the most expressive and exciting part of art.

[Anonymous No.7027083]

[Anonymous No.7027086]

>>7027068
I think it's an observation issue. It looks somewhat fine when I'm drawing it, but by the end it's obviously very uneven and asymmetrical

[Anonymous No.7027107]

Trying freehand construction from imagination after giving up and using references for a while. You can see me being tired from the right hand to they left. This was about an hour. It's much better than what I've done before, but still pretty /beg/.

[Anonymous No.7027108]

>>7026698
You need to find your springtime bliss within you. No matter how sad, broken, or painful your circumstances. You as a being, have the will to power, the same god-given power of free will to alter the fabric of reality. With that in mind, to defeat your mental state is a tall task, or a walk in a park. Most importantly it is a feasible task, you have to find the inner strength to change what you can. Good luck.

[Anonymous No.7027115]

i haven’t contributed to this thread.

[Anonymous No.7027119]

>>7027115
keep it up

[Anonymous No.7027135]

>>7027119
That’s the plan!

[Anonymous No.7027144]

>>7027115

[Anonymous No.7027151]

>>7025483
I haven't drawn in 6 months...

[Anonymous No.7027153]

>>7026206
>>7025745
based

[Anonymous No.7027179]

>>7025691
Got motivated to draw Sunday too
I'm not sure about the foot and left leg size tho

[Anonymous No.7027205]

>>7027043
nice chubbs dude, on the right figure don't be afraid of drawing those skin folds that form when the torso wedges those are true sexo.

>>7027083
feel the form, those forearms flattens the whole picture for me.

>>7027073
valid, for me the more expressive part of art is the abstraction itself. for example I'm in awe how Kamome Shirahama abstracts intense lighting with just lines in witch hat atelier.

>>7027107
It doesn't matter its a challenging pose, trace primitive shapes in heavy foreshorten poses to get a hang of the proportions between parts.

>>7027179
pretty impressive right angle study

[Anonymous No.7027210]

[Anonymous No.7027232]

So... thoughts?

[Anonymous No.7027234]

>>7027232
chair and body don't match perspective

[Anonymous No.7027236]

[Anonymous No.7027238]

Can I get some crit on my construction/foreshortening?
Mainly worried about the arm in the back, feels like there's something wrong that I'm missing.

[Anonymous No.7027247]

>>7027210
>>7027236
Do you ever draw anything new?

[Anonymous No.7027249]

>>7027247
>Do you ever draw anything new?
what did you have in mind

[Anonymous No.7027251]

>>7026670
>https://idlecanvas-wagmi.web.app/?mode=3d
This is cool, thanks!

>>7027043
>If you aren’t already, I’d begin to do boxes and organic from imagination if I were you
I've already done these!

[Anonymous No.7027253]

>>7027249
For the love of god draw anything but the same 3/4 pose and stupid face you've done a million times

[Anonymous No.7027254]

>>7027251
oh you sayin' my money ain't good here? Do you know how many crumb cakes I can get for that? How many chocolate milks? HOW MANY BARS OF SOAP???
this really fucking pisses me off
fun's over when you get called out for drawing the same shit

[Anonymous No.7027258]

THE PROGRAM FOR THIS EVENING IS NOT NEW you've seen this entertainment through and through
you've seen your birth your life and death you might recall of the rest
did you have a good world when you died?
enough to base a movie on?

[Anonymous No.7027259]

>>7027210
Not even the ass is new.

[Anonymous No.7027262]

>>7027258
stfu

[Anonymous No.7027266]

>>7027253
Well, you see. THANK YOU OH LORD FOR THIS, thank you oh lord for this white blind light a city rises from the sea, I had a splitting headache from which the future is made
we must keep continuing copying instead of drawing the same thing
along with Golden Copulations

[Anonymous No.7027270]

>>7027266
Your cringe ass needs to go back to your containment thread

[Anonymous No.7027272]

>>7027266
>>7027258
>>7027254
you don't even know how to draw a simple box!!
HAHAHAHAHHAHHH
NOOB!!

[Anonymous No.7027273]

>>7027249
Adapt to this

[Anonymous No.7027275]

>>7027068
Here's an attempt, using those as reference

[Anonymous No.7027280]

>>7027275
and your canvas is too damn big

[Anonymous No.7027284]

>>7027280
I'm just putting it side by side with the reference.

[Anonymous No.7027286]

>>7027284
should have rescaled your picture before posting it

[Anonymous No.7027289]

>>7027205
> Kamome Shirahama
her linework is trying to imitate the printmaking technique of etching or woodcarving, the old masters like Albrecht Durer. Those lines are made with very sharp knives, and imagining how precise he was still gives me happiness.

[Anonymous No.7027293]

>>7027247
after thinking it over for a moment, you're right i'll have to draw the main attraction of Nikke
BUTTCHEEKS

[Anonymous No.7027305]

>>7027254
>>7027266
>>7027258
AI bot got broken lmao

[Anonymous No.7027333]

>>7025684
Heres a dress version

[Anonymous No.7027335]

>>7027333
i'll be wary of you

[Anonymous No.7027336]

>>7027286
Sorry

[Anonymous No.7027341]

>>7027336
Well, goddammit, I won't get you this time, but next time just watch it, will ya?

[Anonymous No.7027343]

>>7027253
a tough approach

[Anonymous No.7027345]

im gonna have to draw more circles and pee pees

[Anonymous No.7027367]

>>7027335
Is this a compliment or a warning? lol

[Anonymous No.7027380]

minecraf :)

[Anonymous No.7027382]

[Anonymous No.7027391]

Drawing I did from photo reference, I love drawing people playing music but I always seem to fuck up the instruments themselves. Am I gonna make it?

[Anonymous No.7027398]

>>7026380
Just colored it. Any thoughts?

[Anonymous No.7027399]

Men on Film

[Anonymous No.7027401]

>>7027391
nice underdrawing, go ahead and lighten it a bit with a kneaded eraser and go for the real version on top.

[Anonymous No.7027406]

im going going back back to perspective perspective

[Anonymous No.7027420]

I think my imagination drawing is gradually improving. This isn’t usually the sort of thing I draw… but… if it turns out that I’m a coom artist, will you guys still be my friends?

[Anonymous No.7027423]

im gonna have to do it on paper

[Anonymous No.7027424]

I've been staring at this for too long, I dunno what the major problems are besides the fact my lineart is shit,

[Anonymous No.7027426]

>>7027420
You are already a coom artist, so long my friend.

[Anonymous No.7027427]

trying to go for darker darks and reduce number of brush strokes

[Anonymous No.7027430]

>>7027424
rendering without understanding the forms, you don't understand where faces are turning away from the light

[Anonymous No.7027433]

>>7027401
You want me to finish my work? What the hell, I thought this was /beg/

[Anonymous No.7027435]

>>7027433
go ahead a play 'em off with the preview of the remix

[Anonymous No.7027437]

>>7027247
that's why we ain't gettin' no (you)s
ain't gettin' no bitches ain't gettin' no paper ya feel me?

[Anonymous No.7027441]

[Anonymous No.7027445]

>>7027441
damn, BUN DOWN. SHOE, MUSTARD, PAN, BUN.

[Anonymous No.7027448]

>>7027398
My personal opinion is that lineart needs to be cleaner. There's a lot of stuff that could be cleaned that just looks dirty and not like the usual sketchy lineart. Also tons of white dots from the fill tool not filling between the sketchy lines. You should use a layer below and color there and be more deliberate and careful with it.

Sketchy lineart is a thing and can look very good, but you should look up pieces that use it and try to make it look like that.

[Anonymous No.7027453]

Trying to get into animation and been working on gesture drawings, have experience drawing before but mainly landscapes
Hands/feet are a major weakness but wondering other things I should try working on

[Anonymous No.7027459]

>>7027254
>>7027258
>>7027266
>>7027445
?

[Anonymous No.7027527]

>>7027441
very nice anon

[Anonymous No.7027531]

I'm losing objectivity for staring at this for too long. Any pointers would be good. This is the third attempt at sketching in some rough hair on a separate layer. I'll go to bed now and tomorrow maybe do the two arms to get my mind of waifu haircuts before attempting again later.

[Anonymous No.7027556]

Coming for my sloppy seconds.....

[Anonymous No.7027640]

[Anonymous No.7027654]

>>7027179
blog? hyper appealing

do you draw ntr too?

[Anonymous No.7027656]

All critiques welcome, another day another painting, already drawing for tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.7027706]

I feel like I'm lacking in using better shadows as well as line weight. Any critique is welcome.
>>7027656
I like it. maybe more light from certain angles on the dragon's skin will give a greater sense of height and distance, especially for the one at the top left

[Anonymous No.7027709]

>>7027656
PISA TOWER MENTIONED
we did it italybros

[Anonymous No.7027718]

>>7027706
I thought of making the wing flesh side of the baby's wing slightly translucent but because the skin is teal-blue, the glow will be purple and it will look weird, and I have decided against it. I have struggled with the shadows on the dragon.

>>7027709
italy was beautiful.

[Anonymous No.7027768]

>>7027238
bump please can I get crit

[Anonymous No.7027806]

>>7027656
Do you paint like this every day? How long does this take you?

[Anonymous No.7027807]

>>7027768
holy shit nigger, you want a crit of a fucking construction scribble???

[Anonymous No.7027816]

I changed her face so many times, I can't tell if its decent or not

[Anonymous No.7027832]

>>7027238
look for a heavily foreshorten reference and trace simple shapes over to get a hang of the proportions, e.g. see how much the background hand diminishes in respect of the foreground one.

[Anonymous No.7027850]

>>7027654
Thanks bro, I started coloring but I have no idea what to do with the background
I have a pixiv if you are interested users/14735673
No ntr tho, I only draw nude figures at the moment

[Anonymous No.7027867]

>>7027816
face is no problem.

biggest things that stood out to me are:
1- both of their arms are super long especially wierd mismatch between size of upper and lower arm
2- the torso is short or the hips are too high. gray guy's torso ends /hips begin right below the pecs. Gray guy's finger joint lengths also are a bit crazy.
3- buttcrack seems wierd, maybe too long or maybe the kinda awkward lack of negative space in the dick region.

[Anonymous No.7027872]

I am mere doodler with no real study, but I'm taking an elective drawing course at uni just for fun. It's all online so kind of unstructured, the guy just puts out a few lectures a week and trusts you to go at your own pace and upload whatever whenever. Kinda cool I guess, it forces the class to interact so it's kinda like /beg/ but everyone sucks more. My gf thinks it's cool though, she wants to try this specific class but can't because enrolling is a pain in the ass. Does anyone know of something similar I can just buy her and I a seat in? I'm not worried about it being an atelier course, I think she just wants to noodle and doodle and pretend it's serious because it's a class. Something from NMA maybe? Is there a lot of interactability in their classes or it's just watch video and draw thing?

[Anonymous No.7027874]

>>7027706
stop pillow shading

[Anonymous No.7027896]

How do I do memorization practice without reverting to symbol drawing?

[Anonymous No.7027900]

>>7027896
it is impossible to draw symbols if you check your proportions and angles.

[Anonymous No.7027943]

>>7027850
too damn powerful

[Anonymous No.7027946]

[Anonymous No.7027952]

>>7027946
come to mock me too eh?

[Anonymous No.7027955]

>>7027946

you need some serious Roomis in your life

[Anonymous No.7027959]

>>7027867
I don't know what to do about the negative space in the dick region

[Anonymous No.7027966]

>>7027955
based retard spewing shit

[Anonymous No.7027971]

>>7027955
What the fuck is that redline

[Anonymous No.7027973]

damn now i cannot think of anything i want to draw

[Anonymous No.7027974]

>>7027955
Based dunning-kruger /beg/ dabbing on the /int/. I laughed so GMI

[Anonymous No.7027977]

>>7027971
is not a ''redline'', it's a outline of the fucked up anatomy

[Anonymous No.7027980]

starting to get better with construction and making my lines parallel. it really helps

[Anonymous No.7027988]

>>7027973
can you kill yourself already.
nobody cares about your shitty art.

[Anonymous No.7027992]

>>7027988
>can you kill yourself already.
i don't understand why people say that
what's it gonna do for you, bring me into martyrdom???

[Anonymous No.7027993]

>>7027955
Oh fuck off

[Anonymous No.7027995]

>>7027955
>galeria

third worlder detected, opinion disregarded

[Anonymous No.7027998]

>>7027995
based retard

[Anonymous No.7028005]

>>7027995
>calls him a thirdworlder
>doesn't realize is the og post of the drawfag

You can just call him a thirdworlder direclty bro >>7027946

[Anonymous No.7028017]

>>7027995
The Galeria??

[Anonymous No.7028018]

Is today the day i finally get back to drawing and proceed to get better and better until i reach evergreater heights of ability?
Probably not. Maybe tomorrow.
(Wish i wasn't retarded)

[Anonymous No.7028021]

Sup beg, behold my latest cope with permabegosys: drawing 1 figure over until it will be "okay". Lets hope i wont lose too many day on this. But it would be pointless to try and do the advanced parts of vilppu book if i cannot do even basic bitch pose without major errors

>>7027896
that is the whole point: you are trying to memorize APPEALING shapes so your drawing is nice even without reference
>>7027656
>>7027441
>>7027333
PRO
>>7027556
i like it, bonus points for bikiny armor
>>7027424
you need some figure drawing book and or beg book like keys to drawing since it looks like you cannot feel the form
>>7027420
nice pussy. i think all drawers draw coom, just some of them keep it secret
>>7027380
soul
>>7027232
looks awkward, but that is maybe due to him sitting completely wrong on a chair
>>7027083
cute and coomable, but anon is right about flat arms
>>7027053
https://archive.org/details/PerspectiveMadeEasy/page/n143
>>7027035
movies and videogames?

[Anonymous No.7028024]

>>7028018
>not drawing attached

ofc you will always be permabeg

[Anonymous No.7028027]

>>7028024
i haven't drawn in two months
i can post some old piece of shit tho if you'd like
i drew probably <20 things total last year despite thinking about it daily. Its just always easier to push it back in time till tomorrow.
Anything i can produce at my skill level is dogshit so i don't have much motivation to see the results and the process itself isn't much more pleasant than just jacking off and playing factorio.

[Anonymous No.7028035]

>>7028027
>20 things total last year despite thinking about it daily. Its just always easier to push it back in time till tomorrow.

You are just a failed normie that lost his way to reddit or any other normie plataform, why do people like you even try it's ovious that you don't care about drawing, you just want to be around poeple but you got nothing worthwhile to apport so here you are bitching about shit that you don't even care.
It's really tiresome to see and be around the likes of you, you are like those faggots that complain about vidya but don't play em themselves nor do they buy or create games.

[Anonymous No.7028045]

>>7028035
What IS drawing anyway? a miserable little pile of secrets. I shall give you the answer thru this cesspool of hatred and lies along with Death's embrace.

[Anonymous No.7028047]

>>7028035
>it's ovious that you don't care about drawing
I wish i did though.
Can i change that or is it more of a natural aptittude thing that can't be affected once set in stone?
I would love nothing more than to just stfu and raw for 8 hours but my brain just doesn't work that way.
But yeah you're right i'm a fucking retard clown and should stfu and kys

[Anonymous No.7028048]

>>7028035
>"No art attached, its over"
>They attach art
>"Still over"
Can't win with you people ong

[Anonymous No.7028051]

>>7028048
Cope. At least draw, you loathsome cunt.

[Anonymous No.7028056]

>Been trying to get into drawing for close to three years
>Can usually get into practice for 2-3 months at a time and then get frustrated with lack of progress until i quit again
>Even when i'm in a productive era i can do like 3 hours of work a day tops
>Spent probably less than 200 hours drawing in 2023
Should quit for good but have literally nothing else going on so there isn't an excuse like "ooooh i'm soo busy with x or y". My work hours are lax as fuck so i have easily 10+ hours of free time a day to myself, i'm just a lazy cunt

[Anonymous No.7028057]

>>7028048
the problem is that people that blogpost about '' UwU guise i haven drawn nothing ugh... im so tired, why im ngmi...? - send from my iphone. '' are always retards that haven't drawn more than 1000h but decide to bicth to no end.

[Anonymous No.7028058]

Nobody asked.

[Anonymous No.7028059]

i did

[Anonymous No.7028061]

curses, got ignored by pawell again

[Anonymous No.7028062]

I'm a nodraw retard tell me what to do and i will a 100% heed that advice right away this instant

Sorry for being a lazy bumbling fuck

[Anonymous No.7028063]

Switched sketch brushes, looks a bit cleaner. How are these figures, /beg/? The smaller ones are from imagination.

[Anonymous No.7028065]

>>7028062
Draw. If you ask any further questions you're ngmi.

[Anonymous No.7028066]

>>7028061
owsis now you are cursed to gmi

[Anonymous No.7028067]

>>7028065
will do

[Anonymous No.7028073]

>>7028065
i'll do it tomorrow

[Anonymous No.7028078]

>>7028066
>owsis
THE FUCK IS THAT????

[Anonymous No.7028080]

Fresh beginner who started like 5 days ago. Is getting rid of the shaky arm just something that happens over time or is there something specific I need to change? My boxes don't even line up straight most of the time and drawing a decent egg shape is impossible

[Anonymous No.7028083]

I SIT ALONE IN MY FOUR-CORNERED ROOM STARIN' AT CANDLES

[Anonymous No.7028085]

If I want to be able to draw say, short comics with fantasy elements, dynamic poses and action, what exercise would be the most effective use of time? My anatomy is weak, my perspective is weak, I’ve been drawing for a decent amount of time, but my fundamentals are kind of lagging behind my current line work and level of rendering. I’m a bit too stiff, and have trouble going outside of the reference.

[Anonymous No.7028088]

>>7027952
I just got here? wdym?

[Anonymous No.7028098]

>>7028080
Depends, how are you making the lines exactly? Shaky lines usually happen when you're moving your arm too slowly, so maybe try speeding up. Otherwise is just getting used to it.

[Anonymous No.7028100]

>>7028085
I think it'll be much easier to asnwer this if you post some of your stuff.

[Anonymous No.7028102]

>>7028059
this gave me a nice idea to play with later, thanks.

[Anonymous No.7028103]

>>7028021
>Keys to drawing jfl

[Anonymous No.7028105]

>>7028098
I was under the impression that going slower was better, but maybe I'm overthinking the basic stuff. I've heard Osu might help me get used to the tablet more so I might try getting back into that too

[Anonymous No.7028112]

>>7028100
Let me see if I can find something that won’t get me banned because it’s 99% furry, shamefully.

Goblins are human enough. I’m good at making things look better than they are, but I feel very constrained to basic porn poses, and a little too reliant on female bodies being very curvy to avoid doing real anatomy.

[Anonymous No.7028115]

>>7028105
Can't say much about osu, but I would reccomend looking into ghosted lines aswell.

[Anonymous No.7028123]

>>7028083
stop drawing, and stop posting your slop.
You haven't improved a bit since you first posted. you are just shitposting at this point.

[Anonymous No.7028125]

>>7028123
>You haven't improved a bit since you first posted.
since ever?

[Anonymous No.7028142]

>>7028112
You're better than I am, so take this with a grain of salt, but since it's porn I'd work on the face appeal, it's a basic oval shape and she's not very attractive, although I think you nailed the expression.
>shamefully
Draw what you want, anon and fuck anyone who tries to shame you

[Anonymous No.7028145]

>>7026876
>>7026881
>>7027043
3 minutes each, trying that LoveLifeDrawing channel. I feel really dumb for not understanding something that should be quick and easy to do.

[Anonymous No.7028150]

>>7028142
Thanks anon, I appreciate it. The thing is, I want to move out of porn, and I want to draw small fantasy comics, action, things that are more interesting. I just don’t know where to begin, because while I like this picture, I can’t reproduce that quality on a consistent scale, nor can I draw dynamic poses and interesting perspective. There’s a lot I know I can do separately, but I was hoping to find something I can save some time with and work on multiple angles at once because this is a hobby I can’t spend as much time as I’d like on. Perhaps that’s a pipe dream and I’ll have to sit down and work on individual aspects over time.

And fair critique, I don’t draw nearly enough humanoid so my faces are a bit unpracticed.

[Anonymous No.7028156]

>>7028112
>>7028142
Also, I should have mentioned, the hair looks pretty flat, could use some three-dimensionality. Arm is also kinda wonky, I think you realized her arms can't bee seen with this pose and you tried to fit one in there, I can't see an easy solution.
I may have seem critical, but I like this a lot and wanted to help, going to sleep now, will check out if you decide to change anything tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.7028159]

>>7028150
You gotta get out of your comfort zone, spend a solid month delving into comics and see where it goes from there. Do 30 minutes of gestures a day to improve poses

[Anonymous No.7028161]

>>7028156
No, you are entirely right on that. I began at the ass and face and made stuff fit after that, which lead to some wonky places. Though this is a bit older now, and I don’t intend to return to it. I’ll try to keep these critiques in mind for future pictures. I just wanted an example of how I can be very deficient in core aspects, but make things look nice on the surface to distract from those. Maybe that’s a skill on the surface, but when you’re trying to draw things that are non-coom brain, those tricks can’t hide issues as well.

>>7028159
I think you’re entirely correct, at the very least getting out of my comfort zone is a good start. I’ll begin the gesture for sure, too.

Thanks!

[Anonymous No.7028163]

I think while playing league and grey screened for 30+ seconds cause terrible maybe I do timed gestures to my death timer. Thoughts bros? Cant be worse than no draw

[Anonymous No.7028166]

>>7028145
>quick and easy to do.
that's what it makes it really challenging. I like LLD, remember to use your whole arm when drawing, wrist elbow and shoulder, and the best tip from LLD measure everything

[Anonymous No.7028190]

>>7027531
Alright, I made some adjustments and I *think* I'm ready to start coloring/shading. Any feedback lads?

[Anonymous No.7028204]

I did not contribute to this thread.

[Anonymous No.7028206]

>Haven't drawn again
I'm a fucking mistake

[Anonymous No.7028212]

still a work in progress but just looking for some feedback. i always struggle with the eyes/face and the feet are somewhat back to front. almost ready to move on to colour/shade

[Anonymous No.7028217]

>>7028190
shaky linework/ no line pressure variation
idk about that expression
hair isnt drawn like hair it study drawing hair etc
eyes are too close together
where are the collar bones?

[Anonymous No.7028240]

>>7027205
>>7028021
Any redline? I know they are not perfect but i don't get why they are flat.

[Anonymous No.7028242]

[Anonymous No.7028248]

>>7028190
by no means is this a redline but I drew overtop to illustrate what I mean

[Anonymous No.7028264]

>>7027806
8 to 13 hours. Draw and paint. I used to do 16 hours but I'm more chill now.

[Anonymous No.7028274]

>>7028242
can't you draw something new

[Anonymous No.7028294]

>>7028274
nta but getting invested in an OC like that anon did is a bulletproof way to learn drawing, he'll branch out on his own eventually but he's on a much more resilient trajectory than most of the rest of us

[Anonymous No.7028295]

Well I finally got my graphics tablet

It's a bit bigger than I expected

Any expectations or things I should do? I won't be able to practice too much cause I got a quiz tomorrow

[Anonymous No.7028301]

>>7028294
if that's the case then let people like Cris cook.

[Anonymous No.7028302]

I want to be an artist but i hate work and the process of drawing doesn't bring me any joy.
What do i do?

[Anonymous No.7028308]

>>7028302
Why would you voluntarily do something that does not bring you joy? Even if you stick to it you’ll just hate it if you hate the process. Wtf is wrong with you

[Anonymous No.7028310]

>>7028295
>Any expectations
pyw (with the tablet)

[Anonymous No.7028311]

>>7028302
find a medium you enjoy working with. reflect on why you want to be an artist, what do you want to create? how long have you been practicing for?

[Anonymous No.7028322]

getting worse, also feel like I can't draw for shit until very late into the night for some reason

[Anonymous No.7028325]

>>7028308
There are things i want to make, in other words i'd be in it for the end result.
>>7028311
Few months on/off but i've done basically nothing seeing as i have to force myself and there isn't any sort of pressure for me to learn aside from my autistic want.
3/4th of Loomis is basically all i've done.
I want to draw cool autistic comics. I just like the feeling that i get after looking at like a well-done shonen panel. I end up getting silly ideas of my own and then get mad because i have no way of making them into reality(AI sucks and you can't actually do anything aside from porn and waifuspam with it)

[Anonymous No.7028326]

>>7028310
So far I've drawn a few shapes here and there and tried writing on the tablet

[Anonymous No.7028328]

>>7028308
Also i'll hate the process of literally anything that isn't jacking off and vidya because i'm a lazy slob.
So that part basically doesn't matter.

[Anonymous No.7028344]

>>7028295
The first thing you should do is enable the setting to map your tablet to the same aspect ratio of your monitor. For Wacom it's called "Force Proportions".

[Anonymous No.7028345]

>>7028328
>>7028325
sounds like you hate the process because you arent getting the result you want. why bother if it turns out shit in the end? we all start beg. you wont be able to draw the shonen manga you like overnight, it takes years of dedication. set your expectations low and set yourself small goals.

[Anonymous No.7028349]

>>7028310
>>7028344
I tried copying this chibi of Marcille from Dungeon Meshi

I think my hands get kind of jittery, not sure how to stop that

[Anonymous No.7028354]

>>7028349
Cute. If you’re using cap, there is a stabilization option that can help

[Anonymous No.7028356]

>>7028354
Csp I meant

[Anonymous No.7028357]

>>7028345
>sounds like you hate the process because you arent getting the result you want.
Nah i straight up hate working and putting pen to paper isn't exceptionally pleasant to do so its hard to find motivation to continue since dopamine just isn't kicking in at all

[Anonymous No.7028359]

>>7028240

[Anonymous No.7028365]

>>7028357
ok well then dont do art?

[Anonymous No.7028369]

>>7028365
but i want to

[Anonymous No.7028371]

>>7028369
>>7028365
I just feel bad doing nothing every day all day and i crave change, art could've been a good outlet for that but my retardbrain foiled me once again.
I straight up just wake up > work > cook > game > repeat all day every day and i will pull the trigger soon if something doesn't change.

[Anonymous No.7028385]

>>7026583
Hahah yeah money.

[Anonymous No.7028391]

>>7028359
Well, thanks... i guess.

[Anonymous No.7028398]

>>7028371
Fucking draw or don't, either way shut the fuck up.

[Anonymous No.7028411]

>>7028371
you better not turn into those perma-begs that whine and complain all day in /ic/

[Anonymous No.7028416]

>>7028411
i hope i won't.
I just want to get more willpower and get to drawing a few hours a day and then just grind in peace

[Anonymous No.7028424]

>>7028416
Just draw studies of art and refs you like so much you’d spend time staring at it anyway. Whether that’s a chibi Deadpool, a nice puffy cameltoe, Mecha Godzilla, a badass full page spread of a sick action scene, or even dirty feet.

You can also start by doing a minimum viable amount of drawing to technically count as “doing drawing.” Like a single line. Or a triangle. That single shitty line is enough to build a little momentum and then the second line becomes easier and then you’ve already got your art shit out so you might as well draw. It’s about overcoming inertia. You probably unironically have ADHD and a real diagnosis and meds will help a little. Carnivore diet will also help, probably a lot.

[Anonymous No.7028429]

>>7028416
Also a few hours a day is too much to attempt while a beg imo. Aim low enough that your goal is actually achievable. Hence the “single line” goal. Once you’ve done that, you’ve met the commitment to do some drawing. If you really want to stop then you can. But just that line is probably enough to break the inertia and get you drawing for a little bit.

Another strategy is to study whatever is super interesting to you and then when you start to feel fatigue, study some other completely different art thing. For me personally, when I start to get burned out on studies, I draw some fat asses and thick thighs and such for a bit, and it replenishes my mana.

[Anonymous No.7028441]

>>7028371
pyw, if you have no work to post, start drawing

[Anonymous No.7028465]

>>7028322
this one is a tough one because if I were you I would be feeling like I'm doing everything right but the end result is not the desired one. How about working on a complete illustration, something to really measure your progress?

this account may catch your interest @tatami_loop

[Anonymous No.7028473]

i'm confused about this area of shoulder/chest

so female and males chest/shoulder line are different?

[Anonymous No.7028474]

>>7028473
ah forget to attach pic

[Anonymous No.7028475]

>>7027832
this was my ref that I used, I think it's mostly accurate? at least for a rough
I can try to get a ref of that arm too but a bit harder to get a pic of myself in that pose
>>7027807
every time I post a finished piece people tell me that my construction/perspective is off, why the fuck would I sink more time into something with flawed fundies
the moment I post finished I know someone's going to go "hurr durr polished turd" but if I post pre polished you all sperg out like that, no winning with tards

[Anonymous No.7028487]

>>7028465
>@tatami_loop
looking at it it seems a bit more readable than hampton so far, should i get the moonrune pdf and try copying some from there?
Also the reason I haven't done an illustration/full study yet is because I wanted to do the isolated muscle groups to the point where I've at least done some arms and legs as well

[Anonymous No.7028494]

new

>>7028493
>>7028493
>>7028493

[Anonymous No.7028503]

>>7025483
My faces look like potatoes and I don't know how to draw open mouths. My general aesthetic taste is also questionable.

Any advice?

Going to go ahead and just draw a couple pages of referenced faces.

[Anonymous No.7028516]

>>7028475
>this was my ref that I used, I think it's mostly accurate?
Its awesome that you are creating your own references, I think people really don't take advantage of having a camera 24/7 with them. I would advice in getting a bluetooth shutter remote and a cheap tripod, recreating the pose will benefit you in creating empathy with the pose too, feeling the weight, where it hurts/strains, etc. The next step to improve the set would be to have some kind of monitor for the smartphone camera, screen mirroring the smartphone on a laptop works well for this purpose.


>>7028487
>should i get the moonrune pdf and try copying some from there?
if you want, I just use whats publicly available, its enough for my level, but again your level is above mine...
> Also the reason I haven't done an illustration/full study yet is because I wanted to do the isolated muscle groups to the point where I've at least done some arms and legs as well
why not just doing an illustration focusing on what you have studied? If you keep the path you are currently you will burnout and when you are finally decide to do an illustration you will be bummed because it will not end like you envision, or at least thats what i've seen and experienced.

[Anonymous No.7028609]

I know I already made a thread but this seems a more appropriate place to request feedback

[Anonymous No.7028795]

>>7028609
repost in the new thread

[Anonymous No.7028872]

>>7027448
I'm planning on linearting this in the future. Just wanna ask if the design's color pallet is good.

[Anonymous No.7028975]

>>7028349
>>7028354
Do NOT use stabilization if you don't wanna gimp yourself. Draw with your shoulder, google it if you don't know what that means.

[Anonymous No.7029122]

Question about anatomy: How is it that picrel looks good even though you can only see 2 sets of Nappa's abs? Shouldn't his trunks go higher up his waist if they were to cover his lower set of abs?

[Anonymous No.7029315]

I'm getting the impression I'm getting worse the further I get into fwap. The the bottom rows look much worse than the earlier ones.

[Anonymous No.7030150]

>>7029315
yes its a beg trap, welcome to IC

>>7029122
learn what styling is, yes it can apply to anatomy too