/int/ & /beg/ - Intermediate and Beginners Thread

[Anonymous No.7019067]

If you are a /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
Use this thread instead of making new threads or post in the drawthread with fundamental exercises.

>READ THE STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view

>TRY TO BE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK.
When giving feedback, avoid vague "advice" - point what's wrong and try to give the anon you're quoting a clear direction
to improve their art (study heads < watch THIS VIDEO about head structure, read THIS SECTION of THIS ARTIST'S BOOK, etc).
You, feedback seeking anon, should also try to be clear and concise when asking for critique/help.
When posting your artwork, say what you want help with, and what's your goal with the study/artwork.

previous thread: >>7015538

[Anonymous No.7019075]

Pawell BTFO by the op pic again, love to see it.

[Anonymous No.7019076]

How do I find good refs? My last method has been to just hit "random" on a porn gallery site, but I wanna do better. I wanna be able to skip the "10-20 minutes trying to think about what to draw" and just get to it as fast as possible.

Also, what's the best way to amass inspiration? I've been using pinterest but it would be better if I saved the actual pics offline because I always get warnings on risqué stuff. But if I had offline folders I'd have to manage a way to access that from every device. Surely a home server/NAS would be overkill for this purpose?

[Anonymous No.7019080]

>>7019076
Here's my folder, a few thousand figures.
aHR0cHM6Ly9tZWdhLm56L2ZvbGRlci9wc3hsQ1RKSSNlUTN3b1Z6WTFhQXZTRHN0eHREWWxn

[Anonymous No.7019083]

>>7019075
>int fun is literally just beg colorised

[Anonymous No.7019086]

>>7019075
I bet Pawll will reach perfection in a decade or two. You just wait and see!

[Anonymous No.7019097]

>>7019083
if you can't see the difference you're ngmi

[Anonymous No.7019103]

>>7019067
Remember:
before criticising any of my work I post, I will require this information about you
1. your full name - name and surname
2. the address of your current residence
3. the address of your workplace
4. your marital status and the name of your spouse, if any
5. your annual wage, before and after tax
6. your license plate
7. your place of birth
8. the names of your parents
9. your credit card number and the expiration date
and finally you MUST post your work.
If but one of these points is not met, or, if I am unable to find a Wikipedia page about you, that matches the information you have given, that lists you as a prominent artist in any artistic field, all your critique directed towards me or my work is invalid and actually the opposite of what you say is true and my work is perfect and devoid of any mistakes.
Also, when you do criticise my work, you can not use any word included in the following list because your post will automatically get filtered by my automatic filtering system. You must treat me like a toddler when you criticise my work or I will cry.
https://rentry.org/za5t5

Let's keep it nice and civil in here, folks.

[Anonymous No.7019106]

What a simple 'pyw' does to a mentally ill mf ^

[Anonymous No.7019108]

>>7019097
>You are never gonna make it if you don't polish turds
spoken like a true permabeg

[Anonymous No.7019112]

>>7019108
Pawell grinds turds and look where it got him.

[Anonymous No.7019115]

thread OP is a drama bitch

[Anonymous No.7019121]

>>7019112
if pawll polisht his turds he woud be a great shizo artist

[Anonymous No.7019123]

>>7019108
It's called rendering, anon, and it's part of the creative process

[Anonymous No.7019124]

>>7019112
To not get it posted on the OP because there will be no differences between beg and ''int''

[Anonymous No.7019133]

>>7019086
kek
but seriously, he's doing things that no beginner should EVER do
>speedrun courses/books, 0 thinking and analysing
he posted in a bargue thread, and everyone there called him out for neither reading the curriculum's requirements, nor actually being patient
>endless copying of whatevers inside the book, again 0 thinking
you can see basically nothing changing at all, in all his 'works'
>gets defensive when called out, refuses to change
>>7013527
>i dont really give a damn about appeal at the moment. i am trying to breach into figure drawing. once all my limbs and torsos and limbs will be PROPERLY foreshortened, rotated in space and connected correctly i might research how to draw it elegantly. until then it is all pure practice
??? nigga LITERALLY doing the same mistakes as THAT 4000x4000 progress image

[Anonymous No.7019151]

Hello /ic/, I seem to have drawn myself into a corner. I have a lineart layer, a shadows layer set to multiply, a color layer set to multiply and a gradient layer that darkens the left and right edge of the drawing by a little bit. I was going for a high contrast illustration but a) the suit looks like its made out of bronze now and b) i can't add much color in the color layer without killing the highlights, any idea if I should reorder the layers?

[Anonymous No.7019152]

Ended up giving up on this one because the reference wasn't very good and I kept fucking the face up. I've definitely done better life studies than this.

[Anonymous No.7019169]

>>7019067
Added HeavyTF2 to his Minigun & some other stuff.
Gonna try & do drawing as a regular Hobby.
Don't supposed you guys have any tips on things to try drawing, When I draw the things I wanna draw & end up not making it very good I get disheartened, I need some ideas of stuff to draw where I wont mind that much if it comes out looking bad.

[Anonymous No.7019176]

>>7019169
Based.
>I need some ideas of stuff to draw where I wont mind that much if it comes out looking bad.
I dunno man, you should draw what you like, but it's probably inevitable that you'll get a bit disappointed when it comes out crappy. Just how it is.

Maybe try drawing the rest of the TF2 characters?

[Anonymous No.7019185]

are master studies actually worth it?

[Anonymous No.7019189]

>>7019067
>froggy is not on thread pic
ngmi

[Anonymous No.7019192]

>>7019185
Yes. Always. You don’t lose anything from master studies.

[Anonymous No.7019195]

>>7019192
great, is it just like normal practices where you draw/trace it then do it from memory the next time?
I'm gonna go see my favorite coomer artists

[Anonymous No.7019197]

>>7019151
I am not sure I understand your process. You don't have highlights on separate level?
Anyway, you can increase contrast with curves like this

[Anonymous No.7019200]

edgy
how do I stop being so lazy?

[Anonymous No.7019205]

tried some behelit inspired wall thing. hope you like it. any and all critique welcome

[Anonymous No.7019206]

>>7019197
no, I have only one layer that's intended to influence the color layer, so its my "shadow and highlight" layer.

I'll try playing with that modify curves tool, I've never used it so ty.

[Anonymous No.7019216]

New thing for a tg fella

[Anonymous No.7019219]

○

[Anonymous No.7019221]

I won’t be drawing for this thread, either. Happy MLK day!

[Anonymous No.7019223]

>>7019219
starting to remind me of nat

[Anonymous No.7019225]

I'm going to draw bridgeman twice. Wish me luck

[Anonymous No.7019285]

>>7019225
using the Reilly method, right? right, anon?

[Anonymous No.7019286]

>>7019225
ur not

[Anonymous No.7019303]

How to draw the torso? I've been using the triangle method and it sorta-kinda works.

[Anonymous No.7019304]

>>7019303
Oh, i forgot to mention that I've been studying Lyn Okomoto's art

[Anonymous No.7019306]

>>7019303
hate to break it to you but you need to learn to draw in 3d. Try doing the loomis mannequin frame a few hundred times

[Anonymous No.7019315]

>>7019286
im doing it
im fucking LEARNING
im gonna CUM from the KNOWLEDGE seeping into my BRAIN

[Anonymous No.7019318]

>>7019303
bruh

[Anonymous No.7019320]

>>7019315
the knowledge already has to be in your brain for birdman to make sense, he just sculpts and refines the knowledge a little bit.

[Anonymous No.7019340]

[Anonymous No.7019354]

>>7019306
Nah, kills my motivation so I avoid it now. I've just been using references from Google images and various YouTube videos. I know what you mean , though. Like this, right:

[Anonymous No.7019358]

>>7019354
you're never gonna make anything half decent with that attitude

[Anonymous No.7019359]

>>7019354
You really should start drawing boxes if you don't want to develop bad habits that will eventually lead to you being permabeg

[Anonymous No.7019361]

>>7019354
Yeah like that. You need to stop relying on motivation, motivation comes and goes and you are at it's mercy when that's all you have. Develop discipline and do the hard parts when you don't want to. In time, you will learn to love it.

[Anonymous No.7019379]

>>7019354
Mate you don’t have to draw 200 boxes a week to work on drawing in 3d. If you took a figure and broke it down into basic shapes as a warmup or just drew some basic 1 and 2 point perspective boxes that would take u further than nothing. I know shapes and perspective can be boring but they’re critical to your art looking convincing and you’re only doing yourself a disservice by not working on it.

[Anonymous No.7019391]

Free hand 3 point pers practice

[Anonymous No.7019394]

>>7019391
you just obviated the entire drawabox course

[Anonymous No.7019401]

back from the dead

[Anonymous No.7019403]

[Anonymous No.7019407]

[Anonymous No.7019412]

>>7019067
I know this is shit and there's a lot to work on
But am I trolling myself by drawing in ms paint?

[Anonymous No.7019437]

>>7019412
You answered your own question.

[Anonymous No.7019443]

>>7018321

[Anonymous No.7019449]

>>7019443
you need the Reilly method

[Anonymous No.7019451]

>>7019358
Not the mannequin thing, Loomis. I have no issue drawing the former; in fact, I think they are quite fun.
>>7019359
>>7019379
I do, everyday I draw basic and 3d shapes.
>>7019361
Okay. I'll keep at it.

[Anonymous No.7019463]

>>7019412
This guy draws in mspaint and is pretty good. Obviously it's a handicap, but it's up to you if you need max resources or can do with the bare minimum without all the extras.
He also sometimes posts here. So if you see this start posting on twitter again, your stuff's too good to have a dead account.

[Anonymous No.7019468]

>>7019394
DAB is a meme, what do you expect

[Anonymous No.7019469]

>>7019451
Let’s see some of the 3d shapes you’ve drawn then

[Anonymous No.7019474]

>>7019067
What are some good contrapposto poses for something like picrel that's top heavy?

I want to draw it facing forward since I want to practice different proportions before I try angling it off to the sides.

[Anonymous No.7019488]

Left is from reference, right is from imagination. I would appreciate a redline on the right, I'm not good at judging my own art so would appreciate being shown where I'm blind to my issues. Any other guidance appreciated.

[Anonymous No.7019493]

>>7019488
I should reread before I post, didn't realize I used the word appreciate three times.

[Anonymous No.7019495]

>>7019488
The foreshortening on the right looks good

But her horns look a little odd. The left pic makes it seem like the horns are mostly horizontal but the right pic it looks like the horns are diagonally oriented. I think the left horn (viewer's right) is too angled to have the bend pointing to the viewer

[Anonymous No.7019501]

>>7019152
good texture, but some construction lines might help to give a more solid appearance

[Anonymous No.7019503]

>>7019495
I see it now, thanks. Will change.

[Anonymous No.7019521]

>>7019501
Thanks, anon. I tried a sort of sloppy construction but I probably should have used a more conventional head like yours.

[Anonymous No.7019531]

I regulary have gay sex but I'm straight

[Anonymous No.7019533]

>>7019531
Draw the shadow shapes to your drawing on the right. They go a long way in creating depth in a drawing

[Anonymous No.7019559]

>>7019401
fuck it we cook twice today

[Anonymous No.7019561]

>>7019469
Okay.

[Anonymous No.7019565]

>>7019531
>>/ic/image/sg9PNAW0BEMyX7kSCC2Ycg
what did he mean by this

[Anonymous No.7019567]

>>7019561
They look like you really gave em an honest effort!

[Anonymous No.7019571]

>>7019567
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.7019577]

>>7019503
You got any advice for my question here?>>7019474

[Anonymous No.7019580]

>>7019488

[Anonymous No.7019582]

>>7019580
Not that anon, but great job. This is very helpful

[Anonymous No.7019603]

>>7019577
>>7019474
I looked up what contrapposto means but am still unsure of what it means, maybe try looking at big bodybuilders? Some of their proportions match your image, at least for the waist up, and they do a variety of poses when performing.
>>7019580
Thanks brother! Looks like I need to be more cautious with the distance between the rib and the pelvis. My hand was also just fucked up lol, I tried to replicate it with my own hand and it looked exactly like yours. Time for some hand studies.

[Anonymous No.7019606]

I present to you Alloy Guy.
Please tell me drawing shit this cursed is normal when you're new, I'm trying to copy out of the marvel book david finch recommends. Whenever I look at beginner sketchbook videos even the early stuff seems insane to me.

[Anonymous No.7019607]

>>7019603
Contrapposto is basically posing with one leg supporting most of the weight

So like Michelangelo's David.

[Anonymous No.7019619]

>>7019607
So pic related yea?

[Anonymous No.7019620]

>>7019619
Yeah that works as a starting reference. Thanks!

[Anonymous No.7019622]

>>7019606
did you do any of the exercises before this? there's a pretty good crash course into forms and perspective before the book gets into any figure drawing, even if you feel like you've gone over them do it again until you can represent simple 3D primitives on paper, then construct from those
picrel some of my attempts from early last year

[Anonymous No.7019625]

>>7019606
When drawing guidelines make sure they're in proportion with eachother.

[Anonymous No.7019633]

>>7019606
if you have never stopped and really tried hard to understand something before doing it, which is extremely common nowadays, this will be the result every time. i can't say what is normal for ultra beginners, but all i can say is pay careful attention and when you're new-new, feel free to spend twice as much time studying your reference or homework material as you do actually making marks. for that specific book, it is implied but not stated directly that you should go back and draw volumetric, geometric shapes until you are comfortable with them in any position, in any perspective. it helps to do this from life of course, but that skill is key to making those mannequin guys. but the second step, before mannequins proper, is proportion.

[Anonymous No.7019644]

Been focusing on lineart lately. Any thoughts or criticism would be appreciated.


>>7019606
Dude when I started I was worse than that. Don't worry too much about it, everyone starts sucking ass, the fact that you are trying seriously will be worth it. Just keep at it and take care to avoid burnout

>>7019340
My tomboy fixer otaku little sister can't be this cool. It's good but you drew the eye that's closer to the viewer smaller than the other one. It's a small thing that does a lot.Other than that it's a pretty neat drawing!


>>7019303
Mmmmm you really need straighter lines. My advice would be to do them fast, if they come out wrong, erase and keep completing them, or do them again. But those wobbly lines don't have much use for anime style.

[Anonymous No.7019671]

[Anonymous No.7019676]

>>7019671
Kino. Are those the Aliens from High on Life?

[Anonymous No.7019688]

>>7019067

[Anonymous No.7019709]

how do I get the crayon-like outlines?
the charcoal/chalk are too solid at high pressure
or even just a brush like that

[Anonymous No.7019714]

>>7019709
>the charcoal/chalk are too solid at high pressure
Decrease brush density?

[Anonymous No.7019716]

>>7019688
Technically I like it

Subject matter wise it's gross

[Anonymous No.7019720]

can't draw for shit but I find that making a side silhouette of a character helps significantly. if I tried this in front view without a silhouette it'd look retardedly bad. I'm a /3D/ fag anyway so I can just model over the outline
any tips that help with this kinda thing? would be nice to get better at silhouettes for character design purposes

[Anonymous No.7019724]

>>7019714
it just looks up ending janky

[Anonymous No.7019725]

>>7019676
No idea what that is. Thanks, though.

[Anonymous No.7019726]

>>7019724
If you use CSP, search "crayon" in the asset store, I dunno how users of other software get brushes

[Anonymous No.7019737]

[Anonymous No.7019738]

Sup beg, another dose of begGRIND until i make it. Also lmao at crabs thinking getting featured is a bad thing.

>>7019720
i quite dont understand how 3Danons can literally sculpt / design three dimensional things and not feel the form. You ask for help, but help with what exactly? What you do in the program we drawers do in out heads. We unlocked this ability either by being born in Asia or by grinding for months cubes in perspective
>>7019709
select hard round brush, hit EDIT button, find texture option and select whatever reminds you of charcoal on paper
>>7019688
i like how lazy it is yet still appealing
>>7019671
you are getting better. all you are missing are some cheap special effects like blur, adding extra lighting source via layers and strategical use of soft edges on key places
>>7019644
i kneel
>>7019606
figure drawing is for advance begs. i suggest you to start with easier stuff like observation: https://archive.org/details/Keys_to_Drawing
>>7019559
i dont think that booba is placed correctly, try drawing contour of middle of her belly + chest and then see how the booba arent symmetrical to it
>>7019412
if you doing just lines then even MS paint will do reasonable job done. however the moment you will want a bit more, then you trolled yourself. get krita
>>7019407
the line quality is very uneven. you can see where you did the line in 1 go and where you erased. i suggest to stop erasing and go with the imperfections. sure it will look worse, but in the long run you wont waste hours trying to fix lines and force your hand to get gud
>>7019391
be aware that placing vanishing points too close produces very warped perspective, which is usually something you want to avoid. In general you can fit only 1VP on the canvas
>>7019219
nice ass
>>7019216
needs more contrast, hatch the rhyno 90% black and the middle dude to 50% so the flames amd skulls in them can pop out
>>7019205
ART. i would add highlights on the thorns for more cool
>>7019185
yes

[Anonymous No.7019750]

>>7019644
this is good dude, you should practice more relaxed poses which for me are way harder than active/dynamic poses, pic obviously not my work just reference.

[Anonymous No.7019759]

>>7019750
NTA, you just made me realize what I am missing in my art, thanks anon. Also, what is the name of the artist?

[Anonymous No.7019761]

>>7019738
>>>7019407 (You)
>the line quality is very uneven. you can see where you did the line in 1 go and where you erased. i suggest to stop erasing and go with the imperfections. sure it will look worse, but in the long run you wont waste hours trying to fix lines and force your hand to get gud

thanks anon

[Anonymous No.7019762]

>>7019219
favorite one so far

[Anonymous No.7019763]

>>7019603
Yeah buddy

>>7019759
sim_kyrm that old man is damn good, he does almost everything I want to be able to create.

[Anonymous No.7019766]

>>7019488

[Anonymous No.7019773]

I found a reference I liked and wanted to use but there was a small issue. Her hair is completely covering her shoulders and the character I want to draw has short hair. Should i use the reference anyway and try to guess what her shoulders would look like or would it be better to find another reference?

[Anonymous No.7019783]

>>7019738
>i would add highlights on the thorns for more cool
good idea, thank you. I tried manipulating the curves as some anon earlier suggested to other anon itt but I don't quite get it. It makes the colors artificial which admittedly is probably user error. also added some bricks and the green in the background but I'm not sure, might go back on both

[Anonymous No.7019786]

commission wip

[Anonymous No.7019789]

>>7019786
feet don't feel planted on the ground, not really sure how to fix it though

[Anonymous No.7019790]

>>7019789
probably because its cropped out of the frame, and shes leaning, could try and shift the foot more to the right

[Anonymous No.7019792]

>>7019790
good luck, great work bttw

[Anonymous No.7019796]

>>7019786
she seems kinda tiny compared to the motorcycle doesn't she

[Anonymous No.7019797]

>>7019786
the way she's leaning on the bike would tip it over. The bike should be tilted the opposite way

[Anonymous No.7019807]

>>7019797
Nta.
I don't think so, the kickstand's on the other side. If the bike were leaning towards her the kickstand would be on her side, meaning her leaning on it would make it more liable to tip over.

[Anonymous No.7019812]

falling into over render trap, think i might take this one to finish for once though kek

[Anonymous No.7019814]

>>7019812
im stupid and didnt attach file apparently

[Anonymous No.7019818]

>>7019814
Is that Julia Hart?

[Anonymous No.7019820]

>>7019818
Yeah! Still early days for it though.

[Anonymous No.7019821]

How can you make "Confident" line if your talent is a small wacom intuos and sensibility is too high?
It seems impossible, There has to be something required for that, I feel like using a screen tablets or ipad seems like the mandatory choice for that.

[Anonymous No.7019823]

>>7019821
I use the Large intuos but never had any problems with a small one. Depends on the size maybe, but intuos ones dont seem to get too small.

Keep practicing, you'll get it eventually or upgrade tablet lol.

[Anonymous No.7019824]

>>7019814
>>7019818
>>7019820
House of BLACKED

[Anonymous No.7019825]

put a gun into my mouth AND PULL THE FUCKING TRIGGEEEEEEEEEEER

[Anonymous No.7019826]

>>7019825
good but the hand hiding is obvious

[Anonymous No.7019834]

>>7019786
Girl way too small/bike way too big. Hand on the right too big and looks weird. Shoe looks weird. Feet aren’t on the same ground plane as motorcycle. Her skirt and tail aren’t interacting with/deformed by contact with the bike. The helmet doesn’t quite make sense in space relative to her arm body and bike; looks weirdly flat or like it’s a 2d object. How is it being held aloft? Doesn’t look like it’s resting on the bike… It doesn’t look like her arm is resting on/holding the helmet, it may need more foreshortening of the forearm. Don’t forget to add cast shadows onto the helmet and bike. I think you should plan the drawing out as one thing from the start rather than assembling it like a collage. You might unironically try the first 3 lessons of DrawABox or try Dynamic Sketching to inject some 3d solidity to your drawings. Overall very good, you’re solidly mid int. I only have relatively minor nitpicks. Btw, congrats on the commission! Your art is great and you deserve every bit of success you’ve got coming to you. Good job, anon.

[Anonymous No.7019849]

how to make starting off less daunting
not drawing i mean a piece or copy of something, how do you get over the anxiety of making those first foundational marks

[Anonymous No.7019863]

>>7019443

[Anonymous No.7019864]

>>7019849
by just starting most of the time procrastination is due to fear (failure, complexity, ugly). Understand that failure is part of the ride and learning experience, just start and have fun.

[Anonymous No.7019865]

>>7019826
Good? it is FUCKING DOGSHIT!

[Anonymous No.7019869]

>>7019067
rendering isn't too bad i hope

[Anonymous No.7019889]

Man, 2 minutes just doesn’t feel like enough time for hyper angle poses
>>7019019
Excellent job, anon
>>7019200
Study anatomy and you’ll make way better guro. Maybe that would be fun/motivating?
>>7019216
Fuckin sick
>>7019219
Very nice
>>7019225
Good luck!
>>7019403
I recognize some of those models which means you’re getting their likeness. Good job, anon.
>>7019474
I think the asymmetry in such designs is usually dynamic enough without needing contrapposto desu.
>>7019531
Phenomenal study
>>7019606
Betty Edwards will help you a ton. But yeah, the price you pay to git gud is slogging through a thousand awful drawings
>>7019644
Looks good. Just need to study hands
>>7019688
Hands too big, hips are too narrow relative to her shoulders and they’re not in correct perspective. Torso might be slightly short. High appeal, good job. Study guns and hands, be a little more conscious of your proportions and you’re basically int
>>7019737
Pleasant and soothing
>>7019863
What’s going on here, anon?
>>7019869
It’s not bad. What’s this char’s name? The calf on the left is off. Narrows oddly where it meets her butt. Compare it to the one on her right and envision where the knee and thigh are.

[Anonymous No.7019892]

>>7019889
I'm jealous of your figures anon. Thanks for pointing the leg out, it was indeed pretty off. Her name is Fink

[Anonymous No.7019893]

>>7019892
Coom.
>>7019889
Your figures are too fucking good. 2 minutes? Insane.
Wish I could draw 1/10th as good.

[Anonymous No.7019901]

>>7019849
what anxiety just use a pencil or digi and erase if it's shit lmao.

[KobayashiKotaro !cLqdWGgCis No.7019902]

test

[Anonymous No.7019909]

>>7019869
render is kind of beg but fine.but I really like drawing.

[Anonymous No.7019916]

[Anonymous No.7019921]

>>7019834
Ok. What if I kinda expand and rotate her slightly like this, and then adjust the tail and helmet like this? Not sure how the skirt would deform, but eh, ill give it a couple cracks

[Anonymous No.7019927]

>>7019834
Ok. What if I kinda expand and rotate her slightly like this, and then adjust the tail and helmet like this? Not sure how the skirt would deform, but since this is still in early stages, I'm willing to give everything a couple cracks. Ive done drawabox and dynamic bible along with my friends, I can do the assignments in isolation well, but cant bridge the gap unless I actually do pieces like this (which is retarded, I know). Basically, I found that I learn better by just drawing what I like and getting feedback, doesnt do me much good to do it the other ways

[Anonymous No.7019930]

>>7019927
NTA but your method is optimal, IC is filled with people endlessly studying to no end with no actual work.

I think the bike in this one is just too big, picture her sitting in it, will her legs be able to reach the ground?

[Anonymous No.7019941]

>>7019930
Actually this bike for the client is based on his height, and he's like 6ft 2, which might be the cause of the problem. Most asian girls (who are much shorter) would probably just rest their foot on the foot rest beside the goldish tail pipe, so while not ideal, it can technically work. Maybe she has one of her producers help get ontop of her vehicle, idk. Probably can't change too much with the scaling of the bike, since the client was pretty particular on getting on matching his IRL bike as much as possible, ill poke him and see what I can do

[Anonymous No.7019963]

COPY YOUR HEROES

[Anonymous No.7019973]

What kind of layer blending I have to use to put random brushstrokes on top of my drawing to give a painted look?

[Anonymous No.7019974]

>>7019889
>>7019863
Angel appears during shooting

[Anonymous No.7019975]

>>7019973
You will never be a painter. You have no brush, you have no paint, your strokes have no texture. You are a digifag twisted into a crude mockery of artistic creation.

[Anonymous No.7019978]

>>7019892
Thanks. Yeah, that’s looking way better! I like Fink, she’s cute. Good job, anon
>>7019893
Oh, no, only the ones in the bottom right quarter were 2 minutes. The others were either 5 minutes or untimed. But thanks. It’s just Hampton and Vilppu and Morpho studies to learn something of gesture and anatomy/construction and then doing lots of gestures. I honestly have been slacking on gestures recently. And helpful feedback from generous anons.
>>7019916
UOHH
>>7019927
Ah, yeah, being able to see her heels REALLY helps ground her. If you’ve already done DAB type stuff then you probably just need mileage is all. Maybe draw one or two boxes or organic forms or intersecting volumes as a warmup if you wanna get real autistic about it. The helmet looks MUCH better now, I think you should have her elbow resting on top of it more, but you could probably get away with it like it is now. Oh,my ou actually might even be able to just slide the helmet to our left a little and leave her arm where it is. That would help imo. Moving her seems to have made her a little better proportioned in relation to the bike. I think her left (on our right) hand should be redrawn a touch smaller and maybe resting on her tail or the bike or her hip or something; it currently looks a little like she’s just holding her arm bent in the air. I’m not aware of the character or the bike’s dimensions, so maybe figuring that out will help with their sizing. (Although this version looks more normal to me now.) To do the drapery, I’m sure you can find pics of women in schoolgirl outfits leaning against/sitting on various desks/objects/faces so you can get an idea of how the dress will react to disturbances. You might even ask anons for redlines, idk. I suck at drapery sadly lol.
It sounds like you’ve got a process that’s working for you, and it’s obvious you’re making great progress. >>7019930 is correct. You’re doing exactly the right thing with your art.
>>7019963
I am

[Anonymous No.7019979]

>>7019975
That's very stunning and brave from your part, but it doesn't help me

[Anonymous No.7019980]

>>7019930
>will her legs be able to reach the ground
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRFyw57o_Ic
Not strictly necessary. She could probably tip toe it at a stop.

[Anonymous No.7019981]

You guys say everything you don't like is a meme

[Anonymous No.7019983]

>>7019981
everything I like is also a meme

[Anonymous No.7019990]

>>7019974
>biblically accurate angel appears during an active shooter situation
Dude you have to draw what happens next holy shit I wanna see that. Also, good job applying construction to refs, that’s a good way to git gud
>>7019941
Your client sounds fucking based. Does he have a custom-made oversized bike? Seems unlikely. It’s probably a pretty normal-sized motorcycle. You might be able to find women posing with one or reviewing one on YouTube to get a sense of scale if you really feel like going to that much trouble.
>>7019981
>>7019983
I mean… Pretty much, yeah.
>>7019980
Good point

[Anonymous No.7020016]

Oh no, the lower face ended up being too small and then everything else was too small too!

[Anonymous No.7020036]

>>7019990
>>7019974

[Anonymous No.7020044]

>>7020016
You know what to do.

[Anonymous No.7020046]

meet n fuck kingdom

[Anonymous No.7020056]

>>7019869
this oc took over /ic/

[Anonymous No.7020058]

fwap, finally done with the old folks page

[Anonymous No.7020060]

>>7020058
nice sharingan

[Anonymous No.7020070]

What canvas+brush size do you guys go for with studies? I'm struggling to keep my lines from being pixelated messes while not taking up too much space with a drawing
I was thinking of doing separate layers for each study but ideally I'd wanna see everything all at once
In CSP 1.whatever if that matters

[Anonymous No.7020078]

how does one learn to make your drawing look better than the reference?

[Anonymous No.7020080]

>>7020078
with the Reilly method

[Anonymous No.7020082]

>>7020080
can you elaborate, please? i looked it up and all i could find was head construction. I'm kinda talking more about stuff like improving the lighting. happy to try it out it it's better than loomy, though.

[Anonymous No.7020088]

can someone rec me resources on how to draw eyes?

[Anonymous No.7020092]

>>7019786
where did you learn how to render?

[Anonymous No.7020098]

>>7020070
Like 4000x3000, 300DPI
Just use layers then when you are done crop what you want to show on a new layer

[Anonymous No.7020102]

>>7020098
I'll try it out thx
Also I didn't think to just crop the layers you're a genius lmao

[Anonymous No.7020106]

[Anonymous No.7020160]

[Anonymous No.7020180]

Am I doing OK?

[Anonymous No.7020182]

>>7020180
based star maker

[Anonymous No.7020190]

>>7020180
Yes :)

[Anonymous No.7020192]

Ik this is off topic but which artwork should I choose to hang in my small room? I want something that is fun yet easy on the eye. (My drawings would be hanged above my desk and dont want to compete with another artist)

[Anonymous No.7020212]

>>7020078
finished this in the meantime lol

[Anonymous No.7020215]

>>7020082
>i looked it up and all i could find was head construction
well you would need to read a book on it to learn the Reilly method.
and the Reilly method is not at all only about head construction, its about drawing in general.

[Anonymous No.7020230]

Will I ever become an artist with lines that look this shitty? I'm already demoralized from trying.

[Anonymous No.7020232]

>>7020230
You need more mileage, the draw a box exercises help but you really just have to draw more. It'll get better with time

[Anonymous No.7020235]

>>7020230
don't worry about your lines, just draw
your mark making will naturally improve over time, but if you really want to you can do the first few mark making exercises of drawabox or eviston

[Anonymous No.7020236]

>>7020232
Even drawing a box or really any geometric shape with my arm feels fucking impossible.

[Anonymous No.7020239]

Fix this.

This is unacceptable in a 'completed' google docs sticky. You faggots work too long in digital art/documents/everything to not crop the image down enough to show up on page four so the plot isn't lost. I should not have to scroll a whole ass page to see what the point was. By the time I've scrolled down I can't even remember what it said, and then I gotta scroll back up. And then I've lost focus because ADHD/Brain Goblins/Whatever word salad you need to not just go into a rant about some reposter or how 'it's not real' FUCK YOU THAT IS NOT THE POINT OF THIS POST

I CAN'T FOCUS ON THE STICKY SO I CAN'T GIT GUD

SO DO MY AUTISM BRAIN WORMS A FAVOR AND FIX THE STICKY YOU RAT BASTARDS

NOW

NOW
IM VERY MAAD ABOUT TTHIS

[Anonymous No.7020245]

>>7020239
THIS ONE TOO

PAGE 20/21

WHY IS THIS ACCEPTED HOW WAS THIS ACCEPTED FOR THIS LONG

FIX IT RIGHT NOW OR ELSE I WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT IT AGAIN IN A FEW DAYS OR SOMETHING

[Anonymous No.7020247]

>>7020239
>Can't even read a google docs
Unironically git gud

[Anonymous No.7020249]

>>7019978
>>7019889
Please tea h me how to do good figures. It could take me an hour to come out with something way worse than your 5min figures.

[Anonymous No.7020250]

>>7020239
>>7020245
you've heard of "never learned to draw" now get ready for "never learned object permanence", the next step in permaprebegness

[Anonymous No.7020251]

>>7020250
I don't want to be mean but I have to admit he legit sounds mentally retarded

[Anonymous No.7020269]

Horizontal was with elbow, vertical was with shoulder. I legit can't even draw a straight fucking line because of my shakiness and lack of good seating position. I've never been good at hand writing either so not even my wrist is that good.

[Anonymous No.7020270]

>>7020269
why do you expect to be perfect right now
as the other anons said, just continue drawing and practicing

[Anonymous No.7020274]

Any tips or criticism is appreciated!

[Anonymous No.7020277]

the last standers are out today

[Anonymous No.7020285]

>>7020270
Nothing about drawing has ever come to me naturally. Even when I was asked to draw as a kid, I'd just aimlessly scribble until I got bored and stopped. I have no actual skills to fall back on and "just draw" things with. I want this come naturally as it did with typing.

[Anonymous No.7020286]

>>7020269
>>7020236
>>7020230

You are just starting out, you have a muscle/coordination imbalance due to only using a pen for writing, you need to catch up your hand/finger dexterity with shoulder, elbow and wrist. Try this, grip your pen so that you can use your fingers to move the pen, see related image. Then draw a line, a circle, and an ellipse with a single stroke.

https://mydrawingtutorials.com/a-drawing-exercise-every-beginner-artists-should-do/

>>7020285
>I want this come naturally as it did with typing.
there you have it

>Nothing about drawing has ever come to me naturally.
stop bitching start drawing

[Anonymous No.7020288]

>>7020286
pic related*

[Anonymous No.7020292]

>>7020274
folds and shading doesnt match

[Anonymous No.7020303]

[Anonymous No.7020306]

>>7020269
Remember when you were a kid and had to fill notebooks full of handwriting and calligraphy to learn to draw? Yeah same thing

[Anonymous No.7020318]

>>7019738
>you are getting better. all you are missing are some cheap special effects like blur, adding extra lighting source via layers and strategical use of soft edges on key places.
better? please explain the strategic soft edges thing. not sure what you mean.

[Anonymous No.7020320]

[Anonymous No.7020321]

Do you think /fag/ will let me post again?

[Anonymous No.7020330]

>>7020292
got it, the folds and shading. Any other thing I can improve on or anything you can point me towards for improvement?

[Anonymous No.7020360]

>>7020277
>last stand
Sadly very accurate

[Anonymous No.7020362]

Think my figures look flat. any tips on having them be more dynamic? I think I focus on the silhouette too much

>>7019889
>you’re getting their likeness. Good job, anon.
thanks man, faces are really hard for me so I'm glad I'm starting to get better

>>7020192
I like the abstract portrait

[Anonymous No.7020378]

>>7020321
Did they cast some kind of /beg/ furry banishment spell on you? Just go and fucking enjoy yourself.

[Anonymous No.7020387]

I did a gesture study today (which I detailed, before someone says this isn't a gesture drawing).

i sadly can't do poses like this without reference yet.

[Anonymous No.7020392]

>>7020387
On your drawing, on the right side of the sketch. Take a look at that little space between her ribcage and thigh. And the wrist on the left.

[Anonymous No.7020398]

>>7020392
I know. I notice the issues just fixing them would require a drastic redraw of other parts.

[Anonymous No.7020402]

>>701999
Might have to increase the cropping a bit more again, but this increase in size seems reasonable. Saw a couple pics of girls with Yamaha R1s, the bike is like 3.7 feet feet tall, with a school girl usually bein 5ft 3 inch, usually they would need help getting on and using the footrest to help them get down. I think I'll roll with this for now and render it if nothing else needs to be changed with the girl

[Anonymous No.7020403]

>>7020402
Meant to reply to
>>7019990

[Anonymous No.7020406]

>>7020398
Just use the lasso tool or selection pen to move the whole top part down and erase the other lines.

[Anonymous No.7020415]

>>7020249
nta but these are just rough copies. you can do same doodles in two weeks of practice. will not make you be able to do same on your own

[Anonymous No.7020416]

>>7020406
I feel reluctant to do that as it feels like "cheating".

But I probably should start to use that, you're right.

[Anonymous No.7020421]

>>7020416
Anon, don't let yourself get dragged into the shitstorm of perma practice hell. Save the original, work on a copy where you do the lasso tool bit, use the ref image and the one you edited as your reference pictures to do another version with those mistakes in mind.

[Anonymous No.7020424]

>>7020402
Looks good anon, I think any criticism you could recieve would mostly be subjective stuff at this point

[Anonymous No.7020430]

>>7020421
Isn't that perma practice hell in a way?

Regardless I'll try to do more gestures, like way more, as I did enjoy drawing it.

[Anonymous No.7020433]

>>7020430
Eh, it's just referencing a mistake when trying to give it another go. Have you ever gone over the refs to draw out the major joints and spine before starting your gestures?

[Anonymous No.7020453]

>>7020433
The major joints and spines?

Not really. I could try that next though. Seems a tad over kill.

[Anonymous No.7020457]

>>7019443
sauce pls

[Anonymous No.7020463]

>>7020457
[Try] Atarashii Fuuki Iinchou ga Kyonyuu Sugiru Ken 2

[Anonymous No.7020464]

>>7020378
yeah. But they”re assholes who told me not to bother posting there for 2023.

[Anonymous No.7020466]

>>7020046
cute!

Boys?

[Anonymous No.7020494]

I want to draw like Trigger artists one day

[Anonymous No.7020496]

>>7020494
WTF IS WRONG WITH HER FACE

[Anonymous No.7020502]

>>7020496
I can’t tell… what’s wrong with it

[Anonymous No.7020505]

>>7020496
Hey what is that in the sand over there, is that the script?

[Anonymous No.7020524]

sketch

[Anonymous No.7020550]

[Anonymous No.7020552]

Maybe next time I'll come up with something that doesn't kick my ass so much. Gave up on trying to draw the elbow pointing toward the viewer, but it kind of looks better like this anyway. That's my cope, anyway.

>>7020550
Pretty hands.

[Anonymous No.7020554]

>>7019559
>fuck it
faces are literally impossible.

[Anonymous No.7020556]

this is very basic and weird but when i'm just starting off on a gesture/construction how do i figure out the size, placement, proportion of the simplified torso and pelvis in relation to eachother?

[Anonymous No.7020563]

>>7019443
Good effort!

>>7019603
Stealing that art ref
>>7019688
U need to work on your rib cage-hips anatomy

>>7020078
Look up superrealism synix


I have a hard time rendering when the steck takes 1 tenth on the time and looks just as good if not better, but i guess that’s what happens when you draw sketches for years and never render anything.

[Anonymous No.7020565]

>>7020556
I recommend to read a bit of Loomis on body proportions. Everyone usually uses one head size for measurements. Body center is situated at groin, upper half can be roughly divided into 4 parts (3 parts if you exclude head) and bottom half has only two parts (leg above knee, and leg below knee including feet).
That is, getting it right will take some practice. Just keep reference at hand and check yourself occasionally.

[Anonymous No.7020567]

[Anonymous No.7020571]

Protip: If the art isn't flowing, sort out whatever's on your mind first.

I was fretting about art all morning, then I decided to clean up a stack of boxes that had been on my mind for a while. I mean, I still haven't drawn yet, now I'm checking my alts in Classic WoW, but like, I'm not stressing about those things now.

[Anonymous No.7020572]

is it reasonable to draw the belly button on a leotard?

[Anonymous No.7020574]

>>7020572
Does it look good? Who cares if it's reasonable?

[Anonymous No.7020575]

>>7020572
I don't mean a transparent one I mean just a tight one and the shape

[Anonymous No.7020576]

>>7020574
I just mean realistic, if someone is wearing a tight leotard would you see it, or would it just be straight horny nonsense

[Anonymous No.7020577]

>>7020576
as long as it looks good, would you care?

[Anonymous No.7020585]

>>7019606
This is fantastically cursed, and I love it. Print this shit out and look at it again in the future. If you make a genuine effort, you’ll be proud of the progress you’ve made.

[Anonymous No.7020595]

>permabegs be like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL9iMPx9CpQ

[Anonymous No.7020597]

I tried drawing luffy but he ended up being a cursed, really wide and blocky faced version of himself, proportions are hard man

[Anonymous No.7020601]

>>7019766
Thanks for the redline, the way you draw faces is awesome. I especially like the face on the left, it captures the sexy mature vibes I'm trying to work into her character.
This was a very early rough draft of the character, you guys' help will definitely make the next one better.

[Anonymous No.7020608]

>>7020597
Proportions aren't hard, you just don't know jack about them. Get to studying.

[Anonymous No.7020624]

[Anonymous No.7020625]

>>7020608
Recommend me good studies

[Anonymous No.7020627]

>>7020625
https://e-hentai org/g/1585311/e9582faf02/

[Anonymous No.7020630]

>>7020627
Ty, i'll work on it

[Anonymous No.7020631]

>realize I've been using writing pencils for drawing and holding it the wrong way and sharpening it wrong the whole time
I think I should watch more Proko.

[Anonymous No.7020639]

it's honest to god so fucking over

[Anonymous No.7020642]

>>7020624
Lunatic Soda? Are you gay?

[Anonymous No.7020664]

>>7020597
LOL it looks like demaro black, the fake luffy

[Anonymous No.7020670]

[Anonymous No.7020678]

>>7020415
I have been drawing for way way more than that and I can't "doodle" like that...

[Anonymous No.7020702]

>>7020678
doesn't matter. go to line of action of similar and do 5min copies for two hours every day. by the end of two weeks you will have pile of similar stuff. will not make you be able to draw though

[Anonymous No.7020724]

>>7020642
you're right, i should draw bara and muscly men

[Anonymous No.7020730]

Wonder how I could've made this look... just better.

The colors don't seem to match the background and make it stand out but not in a good or appealing way, and, at the same time, I'm not sure if using a different pose could've helped make it seem a bit scarier.

Tips please, and thanks in advance.

[Anonymous No.7020735]

>>7020730
>grass/leaf brushes

[Anonymous No.7020737]

When to change stylus nib.
using wacom intuos

[Anonymous No.7020747]

>>7020737
When it's too short to comfortably use the side.
You may notice the nib developing an edge on one side and it might skip when drawing, I keep a little piece of painter's tape glued to the side of the tablet so I can temper that edge a bit without damaging the surface. Works for me

[Anonymous No.7020765]

>>7020670
I always love your stuff anon. You have great appeal, also what is your brush and pressure settings?

[Anonymous No.7020775]

>don't feel like copying the next illustration from book
>copy next few pages
>find something else i don't feel like copying
>go back and copy the first thing instead

[Anonymous No.7020790]

when the fuck do i "know" i know perspective vs just memorizing a trick

[Anonymous No.7020796]

any good tutorials on simple cel shading?

[Anonymous No.7020799]

Is it better to use high contrast or low contrast? Could too much contrast be uncomfortable for the eyes? Also, is it better to work with a full range of values or limit myself to 4 or 5 values? I know I should study the fundamentals, but I've focused on anatomy and perspective and don't know much about color (yet). Nonetheless, I want to paint my sketches, and I'd appreciate some clear tips or advice to ensure they look good at least

[Anonymous No.7020800]

>>7020790
what "trick" do you think you have memorized

[Anonymous No.7020801]

How the fuck is anime/manga so much more difficult than realism? How would you do the other eye here? Nothing I try looks right.
Learning from 3D anime models that pen and paper anime/manga is just a dirty lie is very demoralising. It feels strange to learn to draw something incorrectly compared to how such an object would look in 3D.

[Anonymous No.7020802]

>>7019067
Started working on a proper reference for a robot girl character. I'm nearly done with the front sketch, but I've been flip-flopping between 2 different leg thicknesses for like an hour. I really cannot decide which looks more balanced and by this point I don't trust myself to, so I need some untainted eyes to tell me which you think looks better.
Ignore the missing shirt neck.

[Anonymous No.7020803]

>>7020801
And yes, I know the neck is way too far forward.

[Anonymous No.7020805]

>>7020796
simple cel shading is not simple.technicaly it is just multiplyed shadow shape. but you need to know your form to draw it - not something you can generally tutorialise.

[Anonymous No.7020806]

>>7020801
XD

[Anonymous No.7020810]

>>7020805
Shit.
So where should I start looking into it then?
How can I learn form first?

[Anonymous No.7020812]

>>7020790
when it feels like you're no longer drawing on a flat surface.

[Anonymous No.7020814]

>>7020800
imagine the HL, imagine two VP, make lines obey the VP until you have what box you want. rotate your cubes by sliding one or more VP along the HL. place things inside cubes. ellipses come in there in some way, but it feels like memorization rather than intuitive thinking.
>>7020812
this is probably it

[Anonymous No.7020818]

>>7020814
That's literally just perspective bro, you're watching too many art hack tik toks if you think learning how to do perspective is le art trick.

[Anonymous No.7020822]

[Anonymous No.7020823]

So I tried drawing some poses

I think the left arm (viewer's right) is too far to the left and needs to be shortened a bit, any other things to improve on?

>>7020802
I like the right more. The left one looks like the legs can't terminate into such a narrow waist while the right seems a bit more suitable.

[Anonymous No.7020824]

>>7020823
Stop this shit and go read keys to drawing what the fuck lol

[Anonymous No.7020828]

>>7020823
The face is unreasonably ugly bro just move onto another

[Anonymous No.7020829]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eosGltj6wI
I know this guy likes to blab on and on and being extra and all that, can someone give me the tl;dw version for me?

[Anonymous No.7020832]

>>7020829
We're not gonna watch a video and spoonfeed it to you wtf

[Anonymous No.7020833]

>>7020829
i gotchu man
heigan dirty man 黑衣脏人 disease spread far 疾病传播得很远 make the fast dance 跳快舞 become friend with small worm 和小虫子成为朋友 do the disco party 参加迪斯科舞会

[Anonymous No.7020834]

Im trying to shade if as if he's holding a flame in his hand.
Any tips?

[Anonymous No.7020835]

I didn’t draw today.

[Anonymous No.7020836]

>>7020823
supreme kek

[Anonymous No.7020838]

>>7020824
>>7020828
>>7020836
okay, I guess I'll try something else

[Anonymous No.7020840]

>>7020835
It's okay Pawell
You would have made backwards progress again if you did

[Anonymous No.7020842]

>>7020838
pick a book or course and start studying PLEASE

[Anonymous No.7020843]

Don't know shit about hatching but tried to draw some hands at work while the boss wasn't looking. I tried to FEEL THE FORM despite my lack of technical skill.

[Anonymous No.7020844]

>>7020822
sauce on the ref brother?

[Anonymous No.7020845]

I can sketch something like this in 5-10 minutes from a reference but I cannot for the life of me draw an anime nigger from scratch.

[Anonymous No.7020848]

>>7020844

[Anonymous No.7020849]

>>7020842
do you know which courses are good for anime?

something like this OP thing
.>>7019067
>When giving feedback, avoid vague "advice" - point what's wrong and try to give the anon you're quoting a clear direction to improve their art (study heads < watch THIS VIDEO about head structure, read THIS SECTION of THIS ARTIST'S BOOK, etc)

[Anonymous No.7020853]

>>7020849
observation is #1 even for learning anime, that's why they recommended keys

[Anonymous No.7020854]

how are the shadow and highlight colors picked in relation to a base color?

[Anonymous No.7020857]

>>7020853
I couldn't find anything really in that exact pose, and kind of just looked at similar looking poses and tried to imitate it

I knew it looked fucked up after I did it, hence why I decided to ask here for any advice.

[Anonymous No.7020858]

>>7020849
at this point anything will help you and it's far too early to be worrying about what style you wanna be drawing in
keys to drawing, drawing on the right side, art and science of drawing, any of these is a good starting point
if you find them too removed from the subject matter you wanna draw (characters), you may be able to get away with starting with how to draw comics the marvel way or fun with a pencil as they both have a good introduction to observation, perspective and forms and thereafter focus on figure drawing - just don't blow past the early chapters because YOU NEED THEM

[Anonymous No.7020859]

>>7020843
Not much there in terms of hatching, but the hands themselves look decent for a start. Good job.
>>7020849
Read Keys to Drawing and copy your favorite jap artists. Also go through this thread for helpful nuggets of information, some are anime specific >>7013965

[Anonymous No.7020860]

>>7020849
>>7017743

[Anonymous No.7020861]

>>7020829
Naoki Saito's advice for artists is simple: think about the "three Ps". These are: product, period, and person. Your product is your art, your period is when you share it, and your person is who you share it with. You need to know your fans and what they want. You need to choose the right time to show your art. You need to target specific people who will love your art. Social media can help you do that. You should consider the mood and the availability of your fans when you post your art.

[Anonymous No.7020868]

>>7020861
THANK YOU!!!!!

[Anonymous No.7020875]

>>7020868
In the amount of time it took you to get that response you could've watched the video twice.

[Anonymous No.7020880]

>>7020854
https://archive.org/details/bookofcolorhisto0000parr/page/7/mode/1up
There's a lot of free art resources here if you're interested, anon.

[Anonymous No.7020896]

[Anonymous No.7020904]

>>7020854
depends on the colour of the light.

[Anonymous No.7020943]

Hope to finish Hampton by the end of the month

[Anonymous No.7020946]

pls critique.
Its still needs work

[Anonymous No.7020956]

>>7020946
Nothing about the lighting sticks out as majorly wrong to me. It's about how I'd do it.

[Anonymous No.7020965]

anyone have this will weston info-graphic in full

[Anonymous No.7020966]

hehe
>

[Anonymous No.7020977]

>>7020966
tfw feel lame now. but thanks for the reference, its actually pretty good.
Or is this Ai.

[Anonymous No.7020981]

>>7020860
>>7020859
>>7020858
thank you for the help

I've done some other pics before, how is this one? The pose was a lot easier and I decided to try a harder pose and a more expressive face with the one I posted earlier

I've posted this pic before but never got feedback on it

[Anonymous No.7020982]

Do the feet on this look proportional now?
>>7020402
Yeah it’s way better than before. Hand on right still looks rough imo but good job, anon.
>>7020249
I’d never spend an hour on laying in a pose until I’ve graduated from begdom and really wanted to do an accurate atelier style pose drawing. I would just do 5 to 10 minute gestures. Don’t try to “fix them” and just keep going on to the next pose instead. You want mileage.

LoveLifeDrawing and David Finch and Vilppu and Hampton and Karl Gnass have good info on gesture drawing. You don’t need to go through all of their instructions, just find one teacher whose ramblings actually click with you and stick with them. Don’t worry about making gestures look good, just try to get the information necessary to understand what the torso is doing, the angles of the main masses of the torso, head, and pelvis, the direction of the libs and what they’re doing in space. Just to communicate what the body is doing. Good 3d form is needed. (Boxes, tubes, balls, etc.)

The rest is just gradually studying anatomy and getting mileage. I’ve probably done over a thousand gestures and I’ve got no plans to stop.

Obviously, the first step — step zero, really — is learning to see. So if you haven’t done Betty Edwards’s book (or Proko or Eviston or keys to drawing etc.) then trying to draw figures is basically just gonna be a frustrating waste of time because you’ll be stuck spinning your wheels drawing what your brain is tricking you into thinking you see, rather than drawing what you actually see.
>>7020362
See above and yeah, good job on the faces. Your imagination ones look decent
>>7020303
Find horse refs, those legs ain’t right. Neat drawing tho
>>7020524
Good
>>7020552
It does look better, yeah
>>7020563
Pro-tier sketches, 10/10
>>7020567
Teach me to be this cool pls
>>7020572
YES
>>7020724
Oh these are great
>>7020904
Based
>>7020896
Very good!
>>7020845
Cute, face a bit long tho
>>7020843
Not bad

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>>7020982
Oh, also Steve Huston is a good one for figure/gesture

[Anonymous No.7020985]

have a consistent problem area showing the distant shoulder on 3/4 poses. hoping for a int set of eyes to help me out.

first is from reference with the muscles made larger, second is from imagination and an attempt to get the shoulders correct. ignore the forearms those need more study in general so i just half assed them.

[Anonymous No.7020988]

are these okay 2 minute sketches? i'm trying to figure out the rib shape, hip box connection (and that squishy bit of fat in the middle)

also...does anyone have good resources on subtle tilts in a figure? sometimes i can tell a figure is leaning forward or backward (maybe just their arm) but i'm not the best at actually communicating that.

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>>7020985
i think i fixed it by straightening the piece of the scapula that connects to the clavicle to be parallel with the other side, but if anyone wants to comment id still appreciate it.

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>>7020597
Nice luffy. I myself am having nightmares about proportion. You are not alone. Also you seem to press down very hard when drawing. try to use lighter strokes.

>>7020801
understanding realism and construction will help with anime. nothing about anime head is impossible in 3d. your just noob.

>>7020838
stop using line tool. that is all advice you need to improve.

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>>7021009
I draw very lightly and then after i'm done i go over everything with a lot of pressure. I don't know if i'm supposed to do that but it's what i do

[Anonymous No.7021032]

>>7021009
>stop using line tool. that is all advice you need to improve.
Should I get a cheap drawing tablet? Does price of it matter much?

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>>7020765
Thank you, for me I try to make it to the slightest touch creates a thin line.

BrushSize is usually max 5000
min size 0%
min density 0%
but I kept the density at 200 and my pen driver settings are at max hardness so I can tap lightly to get a big line

0 stabilization

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>>7020402
This looks good now, looks like she does indeed own & ride the bike.

[Anonymous No.7021040]

https://gaomon.net/cdn/shop/files/gamon-s620-pen-tablet-front.jpg?v=1693578517&width=713

Is this tablet good?

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>>7021032
You can get a Huion or something for like 40-60 bucks and it will last you years and years.

[Anonymous No.7021044]

>>7021042
>Huion
I looked around 4chan /ic/ archives and someone mentioned the Wacom large is a good size, is 16 x 11 inches really that good for beginners?

[Anonymous No.7021046]

>>7021040
nah, too small. get a medium sized one or larger unless you wanna destroy your wrist.

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>>7021040
that thing is small as shit. xp pen deco fun L is like the minimum viable tablet from my research that's what I ended up with as a newfag.

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>>7021046
https://store.huion.com/products/inspiroy-giano

This one a good size? I thought 16 x 10.5 is a bit big but archives seem to say that's good

[Anonymous No.7021055]

Here is some birds i drew

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>>7021044
I dunno. I use a Huion H610 Pro which is 9.5" x 14" (drawing surface of 6.5" x 10") and it's all I've ever used for nearly 10 years. It's a comfortable size. I don't think there's any such thing as a drawing tablet that's "good for beginners"; as long as your tablet isn't completely tiny, it's not going to be a thing that makes or breaks your art.

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>>7021058
I think I'll get the Inspiroy Giano just cause I get clumsy and like a large surface to draw on

Is there anything I can do to practice in the meantime?

Also does being left handed hamper drawing on a tablet in any way?

[Anonymous No.7021064]

I have bigger tablets at home but 85% of images I do is on ancient 4.5" x5.5" intuos3. don't recommend but my wrist is fine

[Anonymous No.7021067]

>>7021055
birds can't fly sideways, that's not how wings work.

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>>7020985
i did another wo ref think the shoulders work better

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>>7021098
why is his dick bulge so fucking prominent

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>>7021099
He's a big guy

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>>7021102
you need some dickie, some dickie dickie, some dickie, some dickie dickie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evzIQhgJzEk

[Anonymous No.7021114]

New thread >>7021112

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>>7020277
FUCK YES!! my art is no longer a meme! lets fucking goooooo

[Anonymous No.7021850]

Might as well post these client says He doesn't like my redesigns of his characters.

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>>7021850

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>>7021850
>>7021852
You lack appeal for some reason.

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>>7021859
Ok appeal is a valid critique, guess I better study up on that.

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>>7021866
https://litter.catbox.moe/kh2u69.png
original designs

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>>7019067
what's a good way to get better line confidence? I've been doing digital since I started and I love it, but I've gotten into a bad habit of hammering ctrl+z for practically every line and even then, I usually go over each line again and again. I recognize it's a crutch for me and it's eating up so much of my time and effort every time I sit down to draw.

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>>7021956
Use this everyday

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>>7021962
you're awesome. thnx, anon.

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>>7021962
I'd rather blow my brains out than draw an ellipse