/int/ & /beg/ - Intermediate and Beginners Thread

[Anonymous No.7009801]

If you are a /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
Use this thread instead of making new threads or post in the drawthread with fundamental exercises.

>READ THE STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view

>TRY TO BE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK.
When giving feedback, avoid vague "advice" - point what's wrong and try to give the anon you're quoting a clear direction
to improve their art (study heads < watch THIS VIDEO about head structure, read THIS SECTION of THIS ARTIST'S BOOK, etc).
You, feedback seeking anon, should also try to be clear and concise when asking for critique/help.
When posting your artwork, say what you want help with, and what's your goal with the study/artwork.

previous thread: >>7007017

[Anonymous No.7009821]

lazy fun

[Anonymous No.7009825]

[Anonymous No.7009831]

Recently started drawing as a hobby (like, 3 or 4 months ago), mostly to draw anime characters. Thing is, I know next to nothing about art or color theory, and I’m too broke for courses. So, as any normal person would do, I’m asking 4chan.
Drew this yesterday, tried my best but it’s not clicking.
Just give me some critique or pointers please

[Anonymous No.7009832]

Oh I forget the picture sorry >>7009831

[Anonymous No.7009840]

yesterday doodles

[Anonymous No.7009868]

posted in different thread but looking for crit on this wip, how to make it better

[Anonymous No.7009871]

>>7009801
https://youtu.be/NsL_OKqe44Y

[Anonymous No.7009872]

>>7009868
too small

[Anonymous No.7009873]

>>7009868
idk why it went so small, heres it resized

[Anonymous No.7009875]

>>7009840
I love your stuff every time I see it. Do you have any socials?

[Anonymous No.7009890]

>>7009868
resized

[Anonymous No.7009893]

>>7009871
nice improvement I can feel the weight better than last time.

[Anonymous No.7009946]

>>7009868
>>7009872
ᴵ ᵗʰᶦnᵏ ᶦᵗ ˡᵒᵒᵏˢ ᶠᶦnᵉ

[Anonymous No.7009961]

[Anonymous No.7009968]

>>7009961
pig nose but cute

[Anonymous No.7010023]

>>7009946
lol

[Anonymous No.7010116]

Getting more comfortable with hair. Well, this kind, at least.

[Anonymous No.7010122]

>>7009821
Nice miku rendering, do you have any socials?

[Anonymous No.7010154]

>>7010122
Yeah i got one but i will nuke it soon. I prefer to share my art here. Things might change.

[Anonymous No.7010165]

>>7010154
Nice work nonetheless, keep it up anon

[Anonymous No.7010185]

>>7009840
How did you learn to draw such good anatomy on a simple sketch? Did you just copy different body parts, and if yes, from photo reference or already stylized?

I can copy quite good now, but the problems come when it gets to more detailed stuff like anatomy of the different body parts

[Anonymous No.7010192]

>>7010185
Nta, but I think this book is what you need. All the forms are indicated by simple lines, but the figures still look very nice. I copied it and improved tremendously

[Anonymous No.7010210]

>>7009832
there is lot to cover. It's not that bad tho. Did you used any reference? I will give you some tips tommorow.

[Anonymous No.7010214]

what's some art related yt/podcast content i can listen to in the background without feeling like useless masturbatory nodraw reinforcement?

[Anonymous No.7010216]

>>7010192
Is there a translated version? Or is there no need for it

[Anonymous No.7010224]

>>7010216
The text is not important, just copy the drawings
https://e-hentai.org/g/763992/a516991f04/

[Anonymous No.7010226]

>>7010216
Or even better, just draw.

[Anonymous No.7010229]

>>7010185
Just pick a few important anatomical features for starters, and slowly add more to your repertoire as you become comfortable. If you're mainly drawing soft anime-style female figures then you don't need much. Starting with the deltoids would be my recommendation, because they are usually very visible and they connect with so many other important muscles. On that subject, one trick you can perform when drawing upper body anatomy is to simplify the chest, shoulder and upper back (as well as the breasts, at least if they're big enough) into what's essentially a thick cape of some sort. It's especially visible in the second pose. Noticing this helped me a lot.

[Anonymous No.7010233]

>>7010229
This is what I mean by the cape.

[Anonymous No.7010240]

>>7010229
>>7010233
>>7010224

I see thank you anons

[Anonymous No.7010243]

what are some exercises I can do to improve my proportions? I always mess them up and would like to get better

[Anonymous No.7010264]

>>7010243
Slow down and compare with the head while drawing, you must know the relate

[Anonymous No.7010278]

>>7009801

[Anonymous No.7010283]

>>7010278
Cute design.

[Anonymous No.7010289]

>>7010264
Sorry, I meant proportions for any drawing in general. As in any exercises to help train my eye. I was looking into Bargue plates but was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for those sorts of exercises

[Marielx !Vidya4T.Xo No.7010317]

4 years of practice, ill try to leave beg this decade, hopefully.

[Anonymous No.7010331]

I need to work on shading and some other details, but im pretty happy how this one turned out

[Anonymous No.7010341]

>>7010283
thanks!

[Anonymous No.7010352]

this exercise told me to make something interesting using only cylinders

[Anonymous No.7010378]

>>7009875
thanks! I have a pixiv account where I occasionally post some doodles
users/14735673

>>7010185
yes I study body parts separately like legs, feet, torso(pic rel)
I like to start with using a stylized reference and then move on to photos because then I already have an idea of how to simplify the anatomy in lines
A good place to find references is Pinterest, just type something like "torso drawing reference" and thousands of images will come up

[Anonymous No.7010438]

Happy enough with the positioning now. Might add like cross hatching but i don't have time atm.

[Anonymous No.7010458]

>>7009890
He practically owns the world, but he finds it impossible to own a shred of happiness.

[Anonymous No.7010488]

>>7009822
Can I get some critique on this?

[Anonymous No.7010505]

>>7010438
El regreso de la nariz grande...

[Anonymous No.7010559]

>>7010505
Made me laugh

[Anonymous No.7010589]

>>7010488
The shading on the stomach doesn't really make sense.

[Anonymous No.7010605]

>>7010488
You stacked everything vertically and straightened out the pose. The main masses should be something like pic rel.
If i were playing detective I'ld guess it was something like saying to yourself "the left side has a pinch and the ribcage is leaning a bit left relative to the pelvis" and then you drew it literally leaning to the left of vertical which slid everything over.

[Anonymous No.7010642]

Sup beg, today i think i got like 1% better at this.

>>7010438
anon, you cannot just draw male body and slap two mediocre tits on it and call it woman
>>7010352
thumbs up
>>7010331
looks very stiff and lifeless. the way how you connected legs to torso doesnt look right. that penis looks more like a dildo, try using a reference
>>7010317
SOUL
>>7010278
is this supposed to be femboy or a girl? lol
>>7010289
draw more (from reference) and maybe use sighting techniques more
>>7010214
i use public broadcast radio. they play songs, have news, read audio books, broadcast operas and theater plays
>>7010116
booba + use thicker brush
>>7009890
art
>>7009831
go here: annas-archive.org
type there: Color and Light
and then download the first result: james gurney
And now realize 99% of all human knowledge is for free at your fingertips just like that one book
>>7009825
>lunatic soda is studying
we are all going to make it

[Anonymous No.7010649]

did this a while back and was pretty happy with it at the time but might be a bit off with the anatomy

[Anonymous No.7010650]

what are the benefits to a break? i havent drawn in 5 days due to burnout and now im having a hard time starting back up because im worried ill have lost some of what i had

[Anonymous No.7010653]

>>7010642
>anon, you cannot just draw male body and slap two mediocre tits on it and call it woman
I have a vagina i draw girls how i want

[Anonymous No.7010660]

>>7010650
Sounds like your mentality's the problem, not the breaks. How are you gonna know if you lost anything if you don't start back up?
Breaks are good anyway, your brain and hands get tired from constantly drawing and they deserve some rest.

[Anonymous No.7010678]

do you think the face looks good? The face is supposed to be pointing up and the eyes looking down. Also, what position should the hands be in? trying to draw them has completely filtered me.

[Anonymous No.7010688]

>>7010678
BASED Fern poster.

[Anonymous No.7010691]

>>7010653
You know the rules, tits or gtfo

[Anonymous No.7010694]

>>7010691
Sorry I have mediocre tits on a male body

[Anonymous No.7010700]

>>7010642
Flat necromancer is a girl

[Anonymous No.7010737]

does anyone have any decent guides on drawing arms? trying to learn how to connect them to the torso

[Anonymous No.7010738]

The autism continues. I will achieve even higher levels of construction

[Anonymous No.7010742]

Is there anyone with good advice to just sit down and draw?? Everytime I try and sit down to draw, I just lose motivation, but if I'm up and about, I've got desire. How do I shake this feeling?

[Anonymous No.7010744]

>>7010742
force your way through it. Draw a cube NOW

[Anonymous No.7010746]

more hampton yesterday and today, back into the wage cage tomorrow but hopefully won't lose too much momentum

[Anonymous No.7010759]

>>7010742
You need discipline.

[Anonymous No.7010780]

>>7010738
Focus on making simple rhymical statements. Now what I mean by that is that you should be keeping your contruction/under drawing decisive. You could make one of these arms with 4 lines (outlined in red). Take more time with the lay-in to make sure that you are sure of where you want things to be. I'll also mention that you need a better grasp of how to use your lines. Think about what qualities your subject exhibits, what type of line is most suitable? What does a tight line feel like? What about a fluffy line? How do make something feel fluffy if you can only make a hard line? these are the questions you need to ask when drawing any particular part of your subject to produce a drawing with sensitivity.

>>7010742
Find a dedicated study space. The room where you play games or mess around in isn't going to become a work environment unless you make it that completely. Go to the library or some other place. If you can't do that there are things you can do in your room. For example you only draw when you turn your night lamp on or when you put on some work dedicated shoes. Something to get you into the midset that your about to do a particular activity, just to build some momentum. draw for 5 minutes a week, then increase the time from there but only do it when you have the conditions met. No drawing when the lamp or shoes are on. Do it at a consistent time and stick to it. Maybe get an agenda of what you want to do as well. Discipline doesn't come out of nowhere, you must foster it cause you've never used it.

[Anonymous No.7010781]

>>7010780
posted wrong image

[Anonymous No.7010783]

i don't understand how to render and "paint" in csp. i don't get it i don't get it. there's no tutorial that shows or explains techniques or what all the layer blending modes people use. they just go "uh here's a color theory wheel :) just put blue and orange together and you're golden <3 i believe in u!!! xd!" and then i try and watch process videos but they're at 800x speed and don't explain anything or show which tools are used for what.

WHY IS THERE NO FUCKING TUTORIAL FOR DIGITAL PAINTING

[Anonymous No.7010796]

>>7010783
there are several tutorials ur just throwing a tantrum

[Anonymous No.7010798]

>>7010796
"there's tutorials" well they're not in the op and they're not on youtube and they're not on google so i guess you might be right but i sure can't find them!

[Anonymous No.7010819]

>>7010798
>the help i need isnt being literally spoon fed to me wah wah
use the vast oceans of content on the internet at ur literal finger tips u moron

[Anonymous No.7010825]

>>7010819
woh... it's almost like i have and everything i've managed to find has been useless dogshit........................ as stated in my first post.....................

[Anonymous No.7010830]

todays grind grind grind. noticed i have a bad habit of making the leg and torso too short, but otherwise gud day.

[Anonymous No.7010834]

>>7010830
shiiiet i forgot to draw those boxes in the skeleton pic. it's over

[Anonymous No.7010836]

>>7010780
Thanks for the advice on my beefy woman. I agree I think my construction is very indecisive. I started something already but for the next drawing I will implement what I've learned

[Anonymous No.7010844]

Can I get any criticism/feedback on this background? I'm making an animation and this is my first real attempt at bg design and painting. I wanted it to feel flat, and I'm not too concerned about proper lighting because it's all going to be moving parallax. Is there anything you'd do differently? Any details I should add/take away? I'm mostly just asking about the composition and the quality of the rendering.

[Anonymous No.7010866]

>>7006042
i drew again
anyone know this mangaka

[Anonymous No.7010871]

Hand sucks but it's ok because I learned more.

[Anonymous No.7010873]

>>7010871
>attempt at realistic face
>cardboard cut out stiff hair
lol

[Anonymous No.7010879]

>>7010873
I thought that's what the ref looked like. I guess I could have spent a little more time getting the nuance but I wanted to move on

[Anonymous No.7010899]

[Anonymous No.7010902]

anyone else like doing paintovers of their old work

[Anonymous No.7010904]

>>7010902

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>>7010906

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>>7010907

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[Anonymous No.7010927]

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[Anonymous No.7010987]

>>7010927
I like all of these

[Marielx !Vidya4T.Xo No.7010990]

>>7010642
Heh, thanks.

[Anonymous No.7011003]

drew this at work

[Anonymous No.7011011]

Hey bros! I saw the drawing on the left on this board a few days ago and i thought i'd give it a whirl at redrawing it! should i kill myself? Let me know if there's any improvements to be made i'm sure there's tons :D
tried really hard to render it i think i'll watch a tutoriaal on rendering later.
>>7011003
Love this, man! simple, well done. clean crisp lines and small amounts of subtle shading. It's good! plus love the texture and the pose :D I hope you die :D

[Anonymous No.7011016]

>>7011003
really good but one small complaint is I think either her left arm is too long or her right arm is too short

[Anonymous No.7011023]

>>7010352
Donut Plains

[Anonymous No.7011028]

Fuck you all! You are supposed to be my competition? What a joke.

[Anonymous No.7011029]

>>7011028
pyw NEOW

[Anonymous No.7011030]

>>7011028
This thread is literally the nonswimmers puddle kek

[Anonymous No.7011032]

>>7011029
>>7011030
I don't draw so I don't have anything to post. I am probably better though.

[Anonymous No.7011034]

>>7011032
Giggles and gestures towards you

[Anonymous No.7011035]

>>7011032
Time to start, bitch.

[Anonymous No.7011037]

anything super off?

[Anonymous No.7011038]

>>7011037
stop using airbrush stop using airbrush stop it!!!!!

[Anonymous No.7011039]

i think every day abt people who are able to just sit down and draw and not just enjoy doing it but also are good at it. absolutely wild

[Anonymous No.7011041]

>>7011038
what tf do you suggest I do? And it's not an airbrush

[Anonymous No.7011043]

>>7011041
it is airbrush, u can’t lie ur way out of this one baby, and its no so bad around the face and hair, although i'd make the blush a little less harsh. the clothes is just awful tho, look up basic anime fanart and copy how they shade clothes like pic rel

[Anonymous No.7011045]

>DON'T COLOR LIKE THAT
okay how should i color
>COLOR LIKE THIS
how do i do that
>FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF AHHHHH
man

[Anonymous No.7011046]

>>7011043
>Picks an image using white and a lighter satuation blue as an example.

[Anonymous No.7011048]

>>7011045
just... just copy what u see, are u blind or just old? maybe both..

[Anonymous No.7011050]

>>7011046
this isnt ai u tard, and the idiot im trying to help clearly isnt some high level pro, basic shading techniques in that pic will improve the mess he is dealing with atm

[Anonymous No.7011051]

kind of want to use this for something but i made without reference so im having a hard time telling if it looks like total shit or not

[Anonymous No.7011052]

>>7011050
where tf did I say it was AI?

[Anonymous No.7011053]

>>7011051
Does he have a vagina

[Anonymous No.7011056]

>>7011051
Wrong fucking image
Does he have a vagina

[Anonymous No.7011057]

>>7011048
how do i achieve the effects used in the image? what tools will let me achieve that look? you retards, same as everyone on youtube, will say "take out the gpen and paint the fucking picture :)!"

[Anonymous No.7011063]

>>7011056
>>7011051
And the upper arm on the left is too long (Assuming the horizontal line is supposed to be the dip on the inner arm where the elbow is)

[Anonymous No.7011064]

[Anonymous No.7011072]

>>7011057
dude, its the most basic and simple shaded/ rendered drawing ever, how can u struggle with this? i thought i was beg but holy shit dude ur really bad, ngmi
Captcha PYWVWA

[Anonymous No.7011074]

>>7011052
fucks sake i think im going crazy i thought u said it was ai idk how that even happened

[Anonymous No.7011075]

>>7011072
it's just genuinely wild that you'd even bother coming into this thread on a huge fucking high horse despite it being a thread for beginners. maybe you should kill yourself frankly

[Anonymous No.7011076]

>>7011075
>gives advice to people asking for crit
>gets told to kill self
god i hate this forum, ur all retards

[Anonymous No.7011077]

>>7011076
your advice is literally
>just do it better
wow thanks man couldn't have said it better myself!

[Anonymous No.7011078]

>>7011077
I SHOWED U AN EXAMPLE ALL U NEED TO DO IS COPY, LITERALLY 2+2=4 LEVE OF DIFFICULTY. DO NOT PAINT ME AS A MALICIOUS CREATURE WHEN I SIMPLY SPEAK THE TRUTH TO YOU SHEEP

[Anonymous No.7011081]

>>7011078
what you did is show me a finished cake, and then said "just make this." what ingredients? what tools? who fucking knows? i don't think you do, yourself! stfu retard

[Anonymous No.7011082]

>>7011081
i feeel like smooshing ur face in ur piss like a non potty trained dog u absolute retard why can’t u grasp such simple concepts. how get to place B from place A?
>what ingredients ????
FUCKING WALK USE UR LEGS WALK WALK WALK WALK DRAW!! DRAWWW TRY OUT DIF BRUSHES!! WATCH TUTS!!! WALK!!! BREA THEE!!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.7011083]

>>7011081
Nta go to youtube "How to shade and color like anime" that person isn't being helpful

[Anonymous No.7011085]

>>7011081
1. colour pick the reference
2. place the colour roughly in the corresponding region of your drawing
3. repeat until complete.

when you feel confident, use your eyes instead of colour picking.

That's how you render :) Use a hard round brush with opacity jitter. No blend modes just 1 layer.

If you are trying to get an effect such as chromatic abberation, just paint it yourself lol

[Anonymous No.7011086]

>>7011085
Do not fucking do this
Pyw right now

[Anonymous No.7011087]

>>7011085
This literally isn't how you paint wtf are you talking about, do you even know what relative color?

[Anonymous No.7011089]

>>7011087
>>7011086
its probably the only way that guy will start trying if he can't follow any tutorial from the internet :/ At least he can look at the colour and reproduce it

This is me >>7011064

Now you PYW

[Anonymous No.7011090]

>>7011085
paintfags gnashing their teeth and pulling out their hair after having the secrets revealed. put the right color in the right spot, it's just that easy.

[Anonymous No.7011095]

>>7011089
Hell yeah tell em paintchad

[Anonymous No.7011096]

>>7011089
aer u a woman? u have typing mannerisms as one, are u single?

[Anonymous No.7011097]

>>7011089
I already posted my work, its the anime drawing, you also replied to two people and thought it was one.

[Anonymous No.7011110]

>>7011097
not him but you can reply to more than one person at once bruh

[Anonymous No.7011112]

>>7008975

[Anonymous No.7011123]

yall really dont know how to guide newbies and it shows, I'd suggest everyone go learn from pros instead of randoms in this thread

[Anonymous No.7011127]

>>7011096
fuck off she is mine

[Anonymous No.7011129]

>>7011089
You don't learn to paint by color dropping. He wasn't asking how to pick colors, he was asking about how to render, as a process. Telling him to pick colors and not even really blend is stupid and doesn't help. Since he's not an absolute beg he should be forced to use an ounce of thought to render something. But his problem is necessarily color- he's using a fucking airbrush, anon told him not to, then said "Just copy images" without guiding him to something that explains the process.
That's no different than "just draw"
This is me >>7010438

[Anonymous No.7011132]

hello /beg/, this is my final assignment for the krenz perspective course, only instead of 1-2 weeks i worked on it for ~10 weeks.

[Anonymous No.7011137]

>>7011132
i kneel

[Anonymous No.7011138]

>>7011132
Ultra based. I am not worthy to look at such a piece of passion and hard work.

[Anonymous No.7011139]

>>7011129
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8U_h3fw7VRc
this is a pretty good video to learn rendering

[Anonymous No.7011140]

>>7011132
In 1/50th the time you could have just put them in front of a white void, idiot.

[Anonymous No.7011145]

>>7011081
What you need to do is what is called "master studies".
1-Find art you like and save it to a folder
2-Open one of them and copy it to the best of your ability
3-When starting ONLY use the basic bitch round brush, even if the ref has fancy smooth shading, simplify it into 2-3 hard defined tones, squinting your eyes helps for some people
4-Do this a ton for a lot of images, over time you'll develop your intuition for coloring and shading
5-Feel free to start using the soft edge brush (airbrush) to soften transitions if you want to get closer to the final result, but fucking avoid aribrushing the whole thing or only using this for coloring/rendering or you end up with mud.

It will be painful and you'll hate the shit you make for weeks if not months, learn to let go of your ego and just grind through this. If you stop being a faggot about it and actually do it you'll realize you start to have a lot of "aha" moments and realize things as you go about doing your copies. You don't need to immediately know what tools or techniques the original artist used, but by sheer repetition and studies you start to pick up on things, like where do they use cold/warm colors, or high/low saturation, or how they use certain shapes and shadows to mark anatomical landmarks, etc.

I'm sure it sounds unintuitive and retarded to you, but this teaches you faster than any handholdy book or course ever will.

[Anonymous No.7011146]

just finished this, i was wondering what should i study or focus on? shapes, perspective? should i learn how each muscle connects and works in the body, please tell me

[Anonymous No.7011147]

>>7011132
The vans on the right maid ruin it, otherwise good job

[Anonymous No.7011148]

>>7011146
how about not using the circle tool for the head

[Anonymous No.7011154]

>>7010906
Now that's the good stuff

[Anonymous No.7011156]

>>7011132
gigachad aren't all the course in Chinese though?

[Anonymous No.7011157]

>>7011137
>>7011138
>>7011140
>>7011147
thanks lads
>>7011156
the /asg/ OP has a link to course notes in english, also there's a zip of the gumroad course files somewhere

[Anonymous No.7011162]

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[Anonymous No.7011168]

>>7011157
Thanks

[Anonymous No.7011170]

>>7011164
anarchyyyyyyy
everyone wants to be me

[Anonymous No.7011186]

>>7011051
Some minor adjustments in the spirit of what I crudely did here and you're good to go! Thankfully you're drawing digitally so it's an easy fix

[Anonymous No.7011201]

i want to be this guy chilling pondering my cauldron and smoking a huge blunt and i'm here hunched over my desk drawing and worrying about drawing and thinking about how shit the world is, like a retard. Life is so unfair.

[Anonymous No.7011213]

I drew a catgirl on my phone instead of getting up to go to work

[Anonymous No.7011221]

>>7011213
So you called in sick? Pretty fuckimg based

[Anonymous No.7011222]

>>7011201
things would be more fait if you weren't crippling your brain with reefer

[Anonymous No.7011228]

>>7011222
i did cocaine more times than weed if that matters

[Anonymous No.7011230]

>>7011221
Nah I'm going at 11 am and say I had something important to do

[Anonymous No.7011251]

/3/fag reporting in, I broke my laptop and can't do 3D stuff anymore so I'd like to profit from this troubled times to train my drawing skills.
I want to especially train my basic/complex shape drawing in perspective. (and train combining them to make up organic stuff)
Anyone can link/provide me a list of exerices to do to train that. If it has a theoritical approach of the exercice, even better cause most of the stuff I foud just says "Draw this shape in different perspective". Yeah no shit but when I do it feels the perspective is picked randomly based on how I drew the main polygons of my shape.
Any tips too?

[Anonymous No.7011259]

>>7011251
cube rotations grid, then put your favorite form into the cubes
urban sketching
perspective breakdown + reconstruction on a photo/drawing

[Anonymous No.7011268]

>>7011251
Sorry for the extremely badly written post. I'm tired and in a bad mood ngl
>>7011259
> cube rotation grid, then put your favorite form into the cubes
> perspective breakdown
Thanks, that's exactly the type of stuff I'm after.

[Anonymous No.7011274]

>>7011228
But "weed is a gateway drug" is a myth, that's impossible.

[Anonymous No.7011285]

>>7011164
Ohio rizz

[Anonymous No.7011287]

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[Anonymous No.7011292]

[Anonymous No.7011312]

Genuine art problem. The UK Royal Academy has begun taking entries for the Summer Show. My two possible entries don't work as a pair. It either needs a third which I can't do (2 entries max) or can I knock out another one quickly enough to get it in?

[Anonymous No.7011315]

It needs biggerising. Fuck.

[Anonymous No.7011317]

taking the morpho pill

[Anonymous No.7011321]

>>7011037
Possibly the hands could be more delicate.

[Anonymous No.7011322]

>>7011064
Really good , well done.

[Anonymous No.7011325]

>>7011011
hi fren, crab anon here, thanks for drawing her! xj9 colors are a nice choice, for rendering I'de recommend this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7MXxk5pZH0

[Anonymous No.7011328]

>>7011312
>>7011315
shut up faggot

[Anonymous No.7011331]

>>7010866
author of meisei mix right?

[Anonymous No.7011332]

>>7011328
The harpy painting is done, it's good to go, but looking at it alongside The descent into hades, . . . it either needs re-doing from scratch twice the size or that there's a third painting. In which case it might be better to think of the third painting and pass on the RA.

[Anonymous No.7011345]

What is up with the composition here?

I'm trying to plan out something for a small canvas painting but I can't get my head around why this doesn't work in a 1:1 ratio.

[Anonymous No.7011369]

Im always go lazy when ti comes to render

[Anonymous No.7011395]

>>7009801
>I'm in the OP again
I struggle with noses, I know

Now I'm working on this trying to follow the workflow of a japanese artist on youtube. I usually try to have clean as possible lineart but apparently this people just paint over sketches and just refine stuff as they go on?

[Anonymous No.7011439]

Does drawing ever stop feeling like a chore? Like I get done drawing a piece or one of the Keys to Drawing exercises and I feel so mentally drained. It's fun but still leaves me feeling shot

[Anonymous No.7011469]

>>7011439
Let me know when you find out

[Anonymous No.7011499]

Sketch

[Anonymous No.7011506]

>>7009801
the one in the middle kinda sucks tho

[Anonymous No.7011514]

>>7011345
Childbirthing hips
Head too small
Too much in the middle both vertically and horizontally
The background stuff is sloped
Pov looks from top to bottom at the ground but the character looks foreshortened like if the pov is from bottom looking up

[Anonymous No.7011519]

>>7010783
>WHY IS THERE NO FUCKING TUTORIAL FOR DIGITAL PAINTING
lol

[Anonymous No.7011521]

>>7011499
thats not a sketch
part of it is
but you cant call that a sketch

[Anonymous No.7011522]

>>7010783
ctrlpaint has tutorials on digital painting.

[Anonymous No.7011524]

>>7011521
It took like 20-30 mins tho lol why is that not a sketch?

[Anonymous No.7011528]

>>7011524
because you took the face to a finish. the face and hair are rendered and detailed in light and shade.
had you not finished the face, it would be a sketch.
taking a drawing to completion like you did is not a sketch anymore.
i dont know what it is with you people calling finished drawings sketches.
i mean it doesnt make the drawing better or worse when you call it a sketch.
i dont get it

[Anonymous No.7011529]

>>7011521
it literally is a sketch

[Anonymous No.7011532]

>>7011528
I think it was just a cheap flex, you see that on art reddits all the time

[Anonymous No.7011535]

>>7011528
in what world is that finished?

[Anonymous No.7011536]

>>7011535
the face is, like i said.

[Anonymous No.7011539]

>>7011521
>>7011524
>>7011528
>>7011529
>>7011532
>>7011535
>>7011536
works are never finished, the artist only chooses to put the pencil down.

[Anonymous No.7011545]

i drew dis in paint with a mouse :3

[Anonymous No.7011547]

is there a way to generate good ideas to draw? I just say here for 2 hours sketching one line and starting over because all my ideas are dogshit. Copying references doesn't work because I cant find a reference I like.

[Anonymous No.7011550]

>>7011539
>

[Anonymous No.7011554]

From imagination (I don't know how to draw the rest of the body

[Anonymous No.7011579]

>>7011519

what the anon wants is the magical formula to produce great art. dumbfuck doesn't even want to play around and understand the app. there's no way he'll find that list useful.

[Anonymous No.7011584]

>>7011554
there's the pelvis(on a girl it should be at least as wide as the shoulders) and two femurs

[Anonymous No.7011588]

>>7011521
>>7011528
>>7011532
>>7011535
>>7011536

it's a sketch. the level of "sketch" does go up as you get better in art and in the eyes of a /beg/ it might look "finish" or whatever the fuck you think it is. It's not.

[Anonymous No.7011597]

>>7011519
has anyone here gone through Scott Robertson's How to Render? I am currently working through another book at the moment, but I do work traditional and would like to finally get a basic understanding of rendering. is bookrel good, or is there a better book suited for /beg/lets?

[Anonymous No.7011615]

>>7011588
no its absolutely not a sketch. he said he spent 30 minutes on it.
5 or 10 of those 30 minutes were spent on the actual underlying sketch.
the other 20 minutes were spent finishing and detailing the face.
at that point you cant call it a sketch anymore.

[Anonymous No.7011620]

>>7011539
Perfect and based

[Anonymous No.7011627]

>>7011547
try to emulate ideas from your favorite tv shows/movies/vidya/books etc with your own creative spin on it and see how far you can develop it

[Anonymous No.7011630]

>>7011545
You accidentally made him black

[Anonymous No.7011631]

>>7011545
>Lotta lolyalty for a hired gun

[Anonymous No.7011633]

Quick pompey sketch

[Anonymous No.7011656]

>>7010214
Steven Zapatas stuff is pretty good

[Anonymous No.7011658]

>>7011615

ok kid.

[Anonymous No.7011688]

>>7011658
i accept your concession adult.

[Anonymous No.7011693]

I don't particularly care about the one anon's drawing, but the word 'sketch' has definitely been watered down over the years. also I'm gay, if that matters

[Anonymous No.7011695]

for people who did morpho master copies, is it worth it to read the blurbs? it seems mostly self explanatory through the figures from the first pages to me.

[Anonymous No.7011718]

>>7011693
>also I'm gay, if that matters
it does, opinion discarded

[Anonymous No.7011728]

Drawing hair is the bane of my fucking existence.

[Anonymous No.7011756]

What's a good way to study drawing heads in perspective?
Is there a book/study guide on the subject?

[Anonymous No.7011780]

>>7011756
Every single art book known in existence

[Anonymous No.7011784]

>>7011756
I'd say you to use a fucking mirror but considering the question you're probably going to need a magnifying glass too

[Anonymous No.7011785]

>>7011780
The things I've read knocked perspecive drawings of heads out in 3 pages. I need retard proof instructions.

[Anonymous No.7011788]

>>7011756
Memorizing the skull and then lots of references to help yourself remember how it actually looks, lots of practice

[Anonymous No.7011809]

>>7011788
Thanks, guess I'll just copy art that I like with challenging perspectives?

[Anonymous No.7011818]

>>7011201

why he have female tits

[Anonymous No.7011827]

>>7011499
can i call this one a sketch? What would i call the last thing i posted if it isnt a sketch, for future reference?

[Anonymous No.7011860]

>>7011827

fucking autism

[Anonymous No.7011870]

>>7011860
lmao good one

[Anonymous No.7011873]

Captcha: JAKSHT

[Anonymous No.7011874]

>>7011873

[Anonymous No.7011875]

>>7011873
this one is really nice good job.

[Anonymous No.7011878]

>>7011874

[Anonymous No.7011893]

I've spent a week and a half just doodling and sometimes trying to copy artists I like. Maybe i was too harsh on FWAP, I think I'll keep on readying and following its instructions while I copy anime on the side. I'm actually having fun drawing, even if I suck dick.

[Anonymous No.7011968]

>>7011728
Blocking it in first seems to have helped a lot.

[Anonymous No.7011969]

>>7010605
Not him but did you studied Bridgman?

[Anonymous No.7011977]

>>7011331
hell yeah

[Anonymous No.7011987]

>>7011893
That's the secret, half and half serious learning from books/courses, and doing master copies of things you enjoy + having fun with it.

[Anonymous No.7011993]

How do I get good at drawing? I'm left handed, have perpetually shaky hands, ADHD, autism and a learning disability. 24.

I've wanted to get good at art since I was a teen but I've lacked the motivations, resources and teachings to get started.

I don't know
>which brush size to use
>optimal size to draw digitally
>good pressure curve to start out with
>how to find a comfortable pressure curve
>how to undo bad habits like drawing stiff figures
>how to fix shitty lines you're too used to drawing
>how to get better when you're experienced but /beg/
I legitimately don't even know how to do sketch lines. My coordination is so fucked thanks to my autism, I can barely even sketch without even the most basic lines fucking up. I can't visually imagine stuff in my head when I'm actually drawing, and my ADHD just wants me to finish as soon as possible. I can barely decide on something as basic as what model to use when trying to sketch a head.

[Anonymous No.7012005]

>>7011993
This is Howie schizo, do not respond to his bait

[Anonymous No.7012015]

>7011993
HOWIE NIGGER DON'T REPLY
KEEP DRAWING

[Anonymous No.7012019]

Can someone redline or critique this please? I can't quite figure it out

[Anonymous No.7012020]

>>7011987
And yet, anons still say muh sekrit formula...

[Anonymous No.7012024]

trying to draw again

[Anonymous No.7012029]

>>7011332
I was looking at the Erinye painting (that's what it used to be, can you believe it? I sketched it out years before this even) and I've got a canvas its size. It's either I enter it solo (maybe? ) or it's that it has a sister painting which would make sense of it and the Christ in hades painting. I mean getting it done for the show is a tall order. It's ridiculous because they give the theme of the show little over a month before submissions close, so, you can't plan for it. It's just complete luck if you've anything ready that fits their arbitrary theme. If they announced the theme a year before . . . It's ridiculous.

It's a total joke, they tell me the theme when I've got to enter it. It's too late then isn't it?

[Anonymous No.7012030]

>>7012024
You made a horizontal line and didn't follow it

[Anonymous No.7012031]

>>7012024
It's good, well done. Is there a reason for the guidelines still?

[Anonymous No.7012032]

>Just feeeeel the flow of the gesture bro
>That's how the renaissance masters would do it
>See as I draw I'm feeeeling how it feeeeeels to draw it
>Remember da vinci? I rember davinci.
>Don't you feeeeeeeeeeeeeel it as you draw too? Huh? You don't? Well here, feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel it out.
>The old masters drew like this too. Like Davinci! Do you know Davinci?
>See, here, watch, I'm feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeling it out right now as I draw it.
Why the fuck is this guy regarded as the best art teacher on earth again? Am I just missing something here? Do I have to already be a master to understand a fucking lick of what this guy says?

[Anonymous No.7012034]

>>7012032
Skill issue

[Anonymous No.7012035]

>>7011969
i've been copying CONSTRVCTIVE ANATOMY for the past few days which is probably why i said it like that

[Anonymous No.7012047]

>>7012031
>>7012030
idk why its there was lazy to erase

[Anonymous No.7012049]

>>7012032

[Anonymous No.7012053]

>>7012032
It's a very old /ic/ meme. Basically akin to recommending Loomis but in video format, it's also funny seeing people waste their time on his videos.

[Anonymous No.7012054]

>>7012032
>he doesn't feel the form as he draws it
Anon I... have bad news

[Anonymous No.7012056]

>>7012053
Yeah just read the books

[Anonymous No.7012085]

Hello beg. Today my laziness reached critical levels so i did only 2 pages worth of vilppu. I feel like i am getting hang of this.

>>7012032
your issue lies with watching movies instead of reading his book which is short and (so far) very straight to the point
>>7012019
coomable
>>7011893
lmao at these beg heads. but based for your mindset!
>>7011873
dynamic anime thot
>>7011547
just steal i mean reference something. yandex, pinterest, devian art, whatever catches your eye will do
>>7011597
i have only done his "how to draw" book, but if i assume he will keep the autism and power level, his 2nd book will be VERY exhausting on how to render. but the BIG QUESTION is what medium will the book use, cause rendering is all about tools. as tradchad you should probably look for books about rendering in XYZ medium. basic bitch rendering is explained in all beg books like keys to drawing
>>7011499
from thumbnail it looks like hitler (probably made the cast shade from nose too dark)
>>7011395
nice anime maid thot
>>7011369
but it is clean
>>7011345
the general rule is to not place main subject to dead middle of canvas UNLESS you have a way to break up the boring symmetry with something else in background (monster, caravan, ruins, sun, clouds...)
>>7011317
hmmmmmm coom
>>7011292
i shall name you square anon. here you can split the canvas in half horizontally and the painting will be better. painting is very nice
>>7011146
rendering. since you are going for very clean lineart the obvious choice is cell shading
>>7011132
i kneel. one nitpick: cast shadows are important for connecting items with floor. the two girls shoes: they are standing in shade yet there is no darker shade under their boots.
>>7011011
very coomable good job
>>7011003
to this day i dont know if sanic characters are furry or not. nice rogue though i think you made her like twice as taller
>>7010844
not enough perspective imo. take the existing shapes, downscale them and then sprinkle them towards the horizon.

[Anonymous No.7012091]

>>7012085
That's a good shout about the nose cast shadow looking like Hitler. Thank you, I'll try to watch out for that with future sketches.

[Anonymous No.7012093]

>>7012085
thanks, someone else told me the same thing but at my current painting ability i couldn't balance it with the local value of the floor

[Anonymous No.7012094]

>>7010866
>filename katsu
>clearly h2 mc
What did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.7012104]

I got into art about 2 months ago and have been infrequently painting with acrylic and dirty brush water.Id really like to start oil painting but I don’t know anything about art.I don’t know how to draw and I don’t know anything about things like proportions,color theory,values etc.
Do you think I could start oil painting before learning these things?do I really have to spend that much time learning all those concepts and how to draw?would I be stupid to just jump in?I did this in about an hour with dirty water

[Anonymous No.7012106]

drawing fatsos is kinda fun

[Anonymous No.7012166]

>>7012104
>I did this in about an hour with dirty water
legit lol

[Anonymous No.7012192]

>>7011325
thanks for the response man. I'll check that video out tonight.

[Anonymous No.7012220]

when you flip your canvas and it looks flat, does it always mean it's flat or do some drawings just not look good flipped regardless of quality?

[Anonymous No.7012226]

>>7012047
instead of posting your gay little process you should flip your shit horizontally and maybe you'll see how one eye is higher than the other because you didn't even follow your guideline

[Anonymous No.7012231]

trying to draw a pov shot of a woman but it's kinda difficult

[Anonymous No.7012238]

>>7012231
my brother in Christ, keep a steady hand

[Anonymous No.7012244]

>>7012238
lol my pen and tablet is really old and it's just the sketch. I can fix the squigglyness if I decide to actually finish it

[Anonymous No.7012247]

>>7012220
it should look perfect no matter what side. Sometimes it will be wrong but you won't know what to do about it. That's ok just keep trying :)

[Anonymous No.7012251]

>>7012231
I feel like her right arm shouldn't completely disappear. Her shoulder blade should probably stick out the side a bit if she's holding her arm in front of her.

[Anonymous No.7012253]

>>7012247
I decided to flip over other peoples art out of curiosity and 9/10 their art looks good on both sides. On rare occasions though other peoples art will look bad when flipped. I was curious if there was a way to tell for your own art or maybe I'm just coping

[Anonymous No.7012255]

>>7012251
in the reference her arms completely disappeared, I just copied what it did

[Anonymous No.7012259]

>>7012253
Your brain has a preference for one side, but that preference might not align with other people. So they will see the bad side immediately on inspection. Just aim for perfect, and settle with whatever you get after your best effort :)

[Anonymous No.7012267]

>>7012220
Retard

[Anonymous No.7012268]

>>7009801
I am used to drawing ugly anime girls but i tried something different.
what can i fix about her?

[Anonymous No.7012274]

>>7012226
i fixed it after tho ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Anonymous No.7012283]

Thoughts
Think I gotta work on faces and hands more

[Anonymous No.7012287]

>>7012255
Might just be me, then. It'll probably look better when you add back in her head and neck/traps.

[Anonymous No.7012345]

>>7011112

[Anonymous No.7012361]

Started with vilppu today. Gesture is especially new to me so the process so far is both frustrating and insightful.

[Anonymous No.7012365]

Damn, I do not have the dexterity for inking yet. Just her eyes and glasses took me nearly an hour of Ctrl-Z.

[Anonymous No.7012366]

>>7012361
a lot of fat bitches

[Anonymous No.7012371]

>>7012366
architecture falls under art

[Anonymous No.7012386]

is there like
a "pallet" I can have on krita to save the colors I use?
I just scribble them on the side and sample the color

[Anonymous No.7012389]

>>7012386
>settings
>dockers
>palette
there you go

[Anonymous No.7012393]

>>7011395
this looks good, what artist's workflow? I think using a rough sketch like you did but carving away lines you dont need for clarity is a good method

[Anonymous No.7012395]

>>7012361
>Fat women... lots of fat women
What dark road have you set yourself upon, anon?

[Anonymous No.7012402]

>>7010210
Nah, no reference, I usually just eye it out. I don’t really think it’s working out tho

[Anonymous No.7012405]

This was very hard for me

[Anonymous No.7012414]

>>7011186
>>7011056
Thanks anons

[Anonymous No.7012419]

this outstretched arm looks jank right

[Anonymous No.7012420]

Im very confused with an art tip, I read somewhere that I had to undress my oc and see "what special features she had" (referring to, for example, chubby legs). I couldn't imagine much

[Anonymous No.7012444]

>>7012283
Maybe try something like this? Ngl im very bad at explaining. But generally for faces I do this (less messy than this examples) women hands for other part usually have like a "bult" very notorious

[Anonymous No.7012491]

>>7012420
Sounds like some braindead tumblr "tip"
If the detail isn't important to communicating something about the character and its personality you don't need it

[Anonymous No.7012509]

>>7012032
You know why you can't feel it? Have yourself checked by a doctor for Alexithymia imo it is worst than aphantasia.

[Anonymous No.7012515]

How do i leave permabeg hell???

pic related my latest practice

[Anonymous No.7012521]

>>7012515
first off, stop using niggers appropriating Japanese culture as reference, second, just draw

[Anonymous No.7012533]

yesterday gesture, some clothing practice and some experimantation and studies on torso

[Anonymous No.7012534]

>>7012521
Oi i won't tolarate your prejudice against us Touhou fans and by extension cosplayers too regardless of ethnicity, would you elaborate on exactly what i should just le draw?

[Anonymous No.7012538]

>>7012534
Draw what you are bad at drawing to get better

[Anonymous No.7012560]

>>7009821
hi miku

think im getting better at cartooning but still hopeless at color

[Anonymous No.7012579]

White rabbit candy girl

[Anonymous No.7012602]

>>7012515
>uses giantess material as reference

the first reference was based

[Anonymous No.7012603]

>>7012345

[Anonymous No.7012611]

[Anonymous No.7012614]

>>7012515
this looks good

[Anonymous No.7012615]

>>7009801
protect /beg/nigglets smile

[Anonymous No.7012648]

>>7012611
#uggoman

[Anonymous No.7012655]

>>7009801
3 days later and that box still makes me smile

[Anonymous No.7012706]

>>7012024

[Anonymous No.7012712]

Getting to the chapters about perspective in Keys to Drawing, it feels pretty intuitive at times but also extremely frustrating

[Anonymous No.7012786]

>>7012648
pyw

[Anonymous No.7012819]

>>7011506
Which one? There’s a bunch in the “middle”

[Anonymous No.7012830]

I'm completely autistic. I can't figure out how to 'study' properly

>go through a figure drawing book
Okay but I go through them. Read them. Copy the images. And then what? What do I do to retain that information? Almost none of the books give an idea how you're meant to retain and utilise the information through daily exercises.

[Anonymous No.7012834]

>>7012393
I'm using this artist workflow as an example. Obviosly He retouches the sketch as he goes on painting but I have the impression he merges parts are done and then overpaints on top, only keeping the color overlays separate, but Im not sure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBXF23LL1NY

[Anonymous No.7012861]

>>7012509
Oh I can feel emotions and stuff just fine. I just don't get wtf I'm supposed to be learning when he harps on like that. Like, yeah, I can feel the pose, but tell me how to fucking draw it asshole, stop being so god damn vague. Gesture is absolute aids, easily the worst part of learning to draw by far

[Anonymous No.7012935]

>>7012917
>>7012917
>>7012917

[Anonymous No.7013060]

>>7012444
ye I definitely should have done some construction. I kinda just went in and stated painting shapes w no lineart

What do you mean by "bult"?