/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.7009557]

Artist are quitting digital art, this might be the rise of trad art.

[Anonymous No.7009562]

>>7009557
I am fine with this.

[Anonymous No.7009563]

Before calling me a pajeet (i'm not) tell me when does digital art becomes cheating? there must be a line right, I mean i've lost the count of how many times i've seen people drawing on digital and they fuck up the angles proportions and everything, on trad you'd have to erase and redraw it but they just click on the resizing tool and boom
seems like cheating desu, they became too reliant on technology and now it has bitten then in the ass

[Anonymous No.7009567]

>>7009563
> they just click on the resizing tool and boom
People ctrl+z the lines and redraw it until it’s not shitty. Closest you’ll get on “cheating” is photobashing

[Anonymous No.7009569]

>>7009557
I'm trad artist by myself, but aren't there like alternatives to Wacom?
Or does Wacom have totally monopoly in digital art?
I just have feeling people are exaggerating this Wacom AI thing.

[Anonymous No.7009570]

it won’t be, trad is oversaturated already, this will just kill it as a trade for the goyim without connections
the only way out of this going forward is strict regulation and preventing everyone from unregulated dataset building, making all dataset distributors go through a regulating body and not giving the general public the ability to make their own
eventually new popular art styles would emerge and AI producers would be reliant on buying image rights for the datasets

[Anonymous No.7009573]

>>7009557
So sick of these histrionic sexy-girl renderers publicly throwing their little temper tantrums over AI. If AI can replace your lame Peach thot art, consider if you were doing anything valuable and either doing something actually goor or quietly leave.

[Anonymous No.7009574]

>>7009557
Can you imagine being this big of a fucking pussy?
>waaaah a brand used something I don't like I'm quitting!!! :(

[Anonymous No.7009577]

>>7009557
>Artist are quitting digital art, this might be the rise of trad art.
1 artist, a literal who at that, and one that was probably already looking for a way to shed the nsfw persona.
Enough e-celeb drama, draw this cool dude

[Anonymous No.7009578]

>>7009573
AI can replace everything lol
pyw

[Anonymous No.7009582]

>>7009569
wacom's monopoly ended like 5 years ago. Every big tablet manufacturer has used AI in advertising though. The only one that cut ties with the ad agency was xp pen

[Anonymous No.7009583]

>>7009578
ai couldn't even replicate some dudes fire goblin.

[Anonymous No.7009584]

>>7009557
What a faggot, good riddance if true.

[Anonymous No.7009585]

>>7009563
Why do begs think ctrl+z and liquify are so damn hax? They need to be there just because of how shitty and clunky digital input is compared with trad, especially on screenless tablets.

[Anonymous No.7009589]

>>7009578
It can't even make good cartoons, shitter. It shits and farts all over itself the moment you prompt outside its extremely narrow window of sexy anime girls and hyperrendered concept art. Normalfags like you have abysmal taste and have trained the entire algorithm on the Gelbooru and ArtStation catalogs. You keep saying it "can" do anything, but I'm looking at what it actually has done 99% of the time.

[Anonymous No.7009591]

>>7009583
it doesn’t need to replicate anything, you low iq monkey, it just needs to make something acceptable faster for free
>>7009589
>It can't even make good cartoons
neither can westerners

[Anonymous No.7009592]

>>7009557
A revival even.

[Anonymous No.7009593]

>>7009585
it is kinda cheating, there has to be a treshold, the bullshit saying "no cheating, only tools" is what led to AI

[Anonymous No.7009594]

>>7009563
you're still the person in charge of identifying and correcting mistakes. lassoing and transforming are functionally equivalent to erasing and redoing. the onus is still on you, as an artist, to complete the work to your requirements.
if your only criteria for "cheating" is technical proficiency in accurately capturing the subject without mistake, then using erasers is also cheating, which is a frankly ridiculous belief to hold.
this obsession with "cheating in art" is ultimately pointless and can only result in dogmatic thinking. the true issue with AI generated content has and always will be one of ethics of the labor market.

[Anonymous No.7009595]

>>7009591
>something acceptable
but it couldn't. That's the point. It utterly failed with like 3 different pajeets trying for hours.

[Anonymous No.7009596]

>>7009557
This is what you get if your only reason for drawing is numbers and followers. AI is simply not an issue for people who just enjoy the act of drawing.

[Anonymous No.7009598]

>>7009595
It didn't fail, you just don't have a good eye for that sorta thing which is fine.

[Anonymous No.7009600]

>>7009591
>neither can westerners
here comes the cope
Westerners fucking invented toons, AI makes atrocities like this

[Anonymous No.7009601]

>>7009596
some of them make money of these followers anon their livelihood is being effected

[Anonymous No.7009604]

>>7009594
>you're still the person in charge of identifying and correcting mistakes. lassoing and transforming are functionally equivalent to erasing and redoing. the onus is still on you, as an artist, to complete the work to your requirements.

That is exactly the argument Shadiversity used to defend AI. I agree that one thing is different from the other but besides a gut feeling I can't say when it is not art anymore.

I've heard someone saying that is not a question of it is art or not, because it is art. It is a question of workers rights

[Anonymous No.7009605]

>>7009598
The task was to make that guy's character.
Not one proompter succeeded.
what's the point of this """tool""" if it's impossible to actually control the output?

[Anonymous No.7009606]

>>7009593
if i use an eraser to erase my lines on paper am i cheating?

[Anonymous No.7009607]

>>7009578
AI can't replace my art, I use my menstrual blood.

[Anonymous No.7009608]

>>7009595
fucking easy

[Anonymous No.7009610]

>>7009596
Yeah until more and more people tell you to quit drawing and start using ai, because drawing is a “waste” of time. You’ll be shunned for actually drawing once ai art becomes more acceptable, it’s already has when fucking drawing tablet companies or art program are using ai shit for ads.

[Anonymous No.7009611]

>>7009595

[Anonymous No.7009613]

>>7009593
Life has been getting steadily more convenient for the past 700 years. We're cheating by simply existing, compared to out ancestors. What's your point? No one ever made good art with just crtl+z or we wouldn't have topic after topic of begs melting over their own incompetence year in and year out. Use your damn head.

[Anonymous No.7009614]

>>7009601
That’s their fault they put all their eggs in one basket and for not being aware of the consequences of choosing a career where the risk of losing your income is so high. Or did they think making cook art on twitter as your only income was sustainable?

[Anonymous No.7009615]

>>7009606
the ammount of work to erase a line and make a correctt one is much bigger than making an incorrect line and resizing it to make it right, let's not even talking about a whole head for example that you can shrink the whole thing to make it right

Here is my point, when does something becomes cheating or not art?
Why is drawing on a piece of paper with a pencil universally considered not cheating but AI is? When in the gradient from paper to AI does something becomes cheating?
I think the inability of people to define this point is what lets AI people to get away with it

[Anonymous No.7009616]

>>7009600
Bing and SD are a bit behind the curve.

[Anonymous No.7009617]

>>7009611
>>7009608
what's the point of this? It was a specific character. This is like asking an artist to draw your specific dnd character and they just give you a generic elf ranger.

[Anonymous No.7009619]

>>7009557
What's up with Japanese companies and their rampant push for AI? Square Enix, Capcom, now Wacom.

[Anonymous No.7009620]

>>7009610
Are runners and swimmers shunned just because cars and boats exist? Did artists get shunned when the camera was invented? Are carpenters and craftsmen being shunned because factories and mass production exists?

[Anonymous No.7009621]

>>7009610
aijeets are unbelievably retarded what the fuck

[Anonymous No.7009622]

>>7009620
hey idiot, stop making hand crafted furniture, ikea exists yknow. Stop cooking food, you can buy cheetos at Walmart.

[Anonymous No.7009623]

>>7009620
>Did artists get shunned when the camera was invented?
They did lose alot of work, from the top of my head I can think scientific articles and books

[Anonymous No.7009624]

>>7009623
stay on topic, sweaty.

[Anonymous No.7009625]

>>7009617
>hurr ai can replace princess peach drawings
>n-no it can’t replace o-other characters s-shut up
cope, retard
I could just controlnet the exact fucking character in 10 different ways
it’s absolutely over for purists

[Anonymous No.7009627]

>>7009616
Again, more generic ArtStation crap. Not even a good version of it either, looks half finished. Show me something exciting and different.

[Anonymous No.7009628]

>>7009620
> Are runners and swimmers shunned just because cars and boats exist?
Those are sports to test human physical abilities to the absolute. Those are even comparable in the first place. Better if you have said what’s the point in racing when self driving cars are becoming a thing.

[Anonymous No.7009629]

>>7009620
artists made up non-realist movements so they would have something to do that cameras couldn’t
the difference is that now you can just take whatever artists come up with and feed to ai to do the same thing

[Anonymous No.7009630]

>>7009625
what the fuck are you even attempting to say?

[Anonymous No.7009631]

>>7009625
"the exact fucking character" according to your 0 standard tasteless liking aka "close enough"

[Anonymous No.7009632]

>>7009630
read it slowly, esl

[Anonymous No.7009633]

>>7009628
Aren’t*
>>7009621
Yea ai shitters are retarded for telling you to quit drawing because ai

[Anonymous No.7009635]

Here

point on the gradient where it becomes cheating

[Anonymous No.7009636]

don't care still gonna draw
cope seeth and dilate AItranny

[Anonymous No.7009637]

>>7009625
>ai couldn't make that guy's fire goblin.
>oh yeah??? I made A fire goblin! Checkmate!!!
>but that's not the same char-
>AI wins chud cope cope seethe cope!!!!!

[Anonymous No.7009638]

>>7009619
>japanese
it's just the wacom US branch's marketing dept being ignorant

[Anonymous No.7009639]

>>7009637
you’re just bad at prompting lel

[Anonymous No.7009642]

>>7009557
Is AI the ultimate artist litmus test?If you're only in it for the money and attention, and not personal satisfaction, you quit. If you actually like to draw regardless of income recieved and clout, you'll continue.

This might end up being a revival, abeit in atwisted way.

[Anonymous No.7009644]

>>7009627
it's definitely worse at that, but for how long?

[Anonymous No.7009648]

>>7009639
Isn't the aijeet argument always how easy it is to prompt, and ai will "democratize art?" but then in the same breath they say it's actually really skillful and nuanced.
here's the guy's picture, go ahead and prove your proompting ability.

[Anonymous No.7009650]

>>7009648
lmao, no thanks
“artists” can have it

[Anonymous No.7009651]

>>7009635
Tracing 3d models. Using them for pose reference is fine

[Anonymous No.7009653]

>>7009635
basically tracing shit that isn't yours. it's that simple.

[Anonymous No.7009654]

>>7009650
>heh, ai can do ANYTHING.
>do this then.
>pssh I-I could, but I j-j-just don't want to.
every
single
time

[Anonymous No.7009657]

>>7009635
6 of those involve creating and therefore skill growth. 1 does not. with AI getting better at prompting is superseded by newer AI.

[Anonymous No.7009661]

>>7009644
Honestly not that bad. The issue with AI is that inherently lacks specificity. When I'm starting a piece, I have a specific idea in mind, it NEEDS to look a certain way with certain things in certain places. Unless AI can link into my neural pathways and read the information in my electrical impulses, in my goddamn feelings themselves, it's never going to approximate my vision.
So it ends up pleasing normies with no vision (no expectation), who just want to look at a pretty picture, and failing artists while also aiming to displace them. Thus very generic art begins to populate the net, because again normalfags are tasteless, they don't know what they want. You need artists to reveal new possibilities and not just rehash the same old things.

[Anonymous No.7009662]

>>7009657
there's absolutely no skill growth from photobashing or mindlessly tracing over someone's 3d model.

[Anonymous No.7009663]

>>7009570
/thread

[Anonymous No.7009664]

>>7009654
are you gonna draw that tasteless garbage?

[Anonymous No.7009666]

their work is a derivative of some popular nsfw pinup artist. nothing of value was lost

[Anonymous No.7009670]

>>7009661
Irrelevant, ai has speed, output and cheapness on it's side, which is unfortunately all companies care about

[Anonymous No.7009671]

>>7009664
if a client wanted me to, sure. your point was that ai could do it, but then refuse to demonstrate that and expect people to just take your word for it.

[Anonymous No.7009672]

https://youtu.be/xOtkBSJ86DM

look at this video, this isn't ai, but I completely believe this is cheating. If this kind of shit is allowed, AI will be allowed, this is a grave artists dug long ago by allowing this kind of crap

[Anonymous No.7009673]

>>7009661
I absolutely agree, which is why I do not use it. I was just curious about how the latest midjourney update might be at that sort of image, so browsed the discord, where I grabbed those pics.

[Anonymous No.7009674]

>>7009671
ok, pay me $100 and I’ll do it or do it for free first and then I will

[Anonymous No.7009675]

>>7009666
This is the thing that kills me about these AI whiners. It's not even original smut! I immediately thought it was unfinished Gloss sketches. He isn't even drawing a different *subject* from Gloss, it's Peach. I saw an inputwo clone seething about AI as well. Like goddamn these fags have less than zero self awareness and social media keeps enabling them.

[Anonymous No.7009677]

>>7009662
ehh, not as much, but you can't just photobash day 1 and become a matte-painter for ILM.

[Anonymous No.7009678]

>>7009672
compare to this

https://youtu.be/WxDekscc5IM

which is absolutely not cheating

[Anonymous No.7009681]

>>7009674
so you can't do it.

[Anonymous No.7009682]

>>7009681
so you can't do it.

[Anonymous No.7009683]

>>7009670
Normalfag Exhibit A.
Challenges an argument about AI's worrying and problematic lack of true creativity, with statements about AI's economic viability and corporate utility. Misses the point. As long as he gets his digital tendies, all is well. A true corpo cocksucker and slop consumer.

[Anonymous No.7009684]

>>7009672
Dude knows form. I think photobashing is unappealing. but if you are making concepts for live action/fabrication it's not a problem.

[Anonymous No.7009687]

>>7009672
I don't like photobashing or traced 3d models but they still clearly require skill. Ai art is pretty much just typing on a glorified google image searchbar

[Anonymous No.7009688]

>>7009674
>AIfag NPC says the exact same script for 2 years now.
(You)

[Anonymous No.7009689]

>>7009661
>Honestly not that bad. The issue with AI is that inherently lacks specificity. When I'm starting a piece, I have a specific idea in mind, it NEEDS to look a certain way with certain things in certain places.

Your argument doesn't hold ground when you can edit AI pictures to look the way you want, that is exactly shadiversity's point.

You're going to lose this fight because you can't refute him

[Anonymous No.7009690]

>>7009563
give me a list of any digital tool and i can give you a trad equivalent
the trad equivalent of ai is getting someone else to do the work for you

[Anonymous No.7009691]

>>7009682
you were the one that boldly claimed you could
>just controlnet the exact fucking character in 10 different ways

[Anonymous No.7009692]

>>7009689
I think you must be shitposting, to invoke Shad in a positive light. But correct me if I'm wrong.

[Anonymous No.7009693]

>>7009687
>Ai art is pretty much just typing on a glorified google image searchbar
but what if you edit over it?
If you photobash you elimnate a step, if you use AI you eliminate another by putting the photobashed pictures in place, you're just left with the details

[Anonymous No.7009695]

>another AI bait thread
Can this guy get a life? He makes threads constantly on every fucking board.

[Anonymous No.7009696]

>>7009691
I could, yeah

[Anonymous No.7009697]

>>7009696
circle back to
>>7009654

[Anonymous No.7009699]

>>7009692
I don't like what shadiversity said but your post doesn't break his argument. His whole point is

>I can make AI art to look the way I want by editing it on photoshop

Using "the problem with AI is that I can't get especifically what I want" doesn't hold ground, if artists are going to go against the use of AI in court you're going to need better arguments
That is my point

[Anonymous No.7009701]

>>7009699
who cares
just draw or don't

[Anonymous No.7009703]

>>7009697
so are you gonna do it or are you saying you couldn’t?

[Anonymous No.7009704]

>>7009701
if no one cares why is AI a problem?

[Anonymous No.7009705]

>>7009699
his pictures looked horrible. if that's what he wanted to make, then he's just a shit artist.

[Anonymous No.7009706]

>>7009704
it's just slop

[Anonymous No.7009707]

>>7009703
nah I can't. I can't draw.
now prove you can and totally own me, it would be a huge win for AI.

[Anonymous No.7009708]

>>7009707
good news, with AI, you can

[Anonymous No.7009709]

>>7009699
Why do you niggers keep invoking economic and legal arguments? Do you not get what my beef with AI is? I'm not trying to get it banned, I'm not denying it will replace sweatshop labor. My problem is that I find it overwhelmingly tacky, lacking in critical capacities expected in a human artist with a human brain.
Mentioning Shad's shit art certainly won't convince me. Showing how well it imitates popular anime won't convince me. But this >>7009644
...is at least something I haven't seen before, hence due credit was given.
Now if it could theoretically translate one's exact compositional thoughts, I'd be on board, a true convert. But it's always going to be off by definition, unless we can get the neural uplink running.

[Anonymous No.7009711]

>>7009708
so do it.

[Anonymous No.7009712]

>>7009705
>then he's just a shit artist.
that is subjective, and you're admitting that he is an artist

This is why I think that if people want to stop AI to be use commercialy and taking artist jobs, using "it is not art", is not gonna. If it was me I'd try approaching it by point of view that it is copyright infringement and the models are stealing machines

>But it's always going to be off by definition

you don't know that, and you again, you can make it look right on photoshop

[Anonymous No.7009714]

>>7009712
>that is subjective
no anon, there is objectivity in art. his art is bad on a technical level.

[Anonymous No.7009717]

>>7009711
that’s the beauty of AI, you don’t need me to, you can do it yourself
art has been democratized

[Anonymous No.7009720]

>>7009712
>that is subjective, and you're admitting that he is an artist
by mere technicality since he used to do art before AI
even so he's objectively /beg/ tier

[Anonymous No.7009721]

>>7009714
I know it fucking is but do you think the demented grandma in the jury will say this?
You can't fucking hold your whole argument with shit like "it is ugly"

I want AI shit gone but the people I see trying to stop this shit use arguments like "muh fee fees", please, what i'm trying to do is to make this shit illegal

[Anonymous No.7009722]

>>7009717
>you can do it yourself
no I can't, because ai can't do it. prove to me that it can.

[Anonymous No.7009725]

>>7009721
You’re right, that’s why ai slop has no copyright :^)

[Anonymous No.7009726]

>>7009593

you dumbass. it's a tool made for artist to speed up their process. anyone can use undo's and liquify but no anyone can produce god tier work of art.

AI on the other hand is not a tool. It was made to be a tool. It was made by greedy people who found a way to exploit the creatives.

[Anonymous No.7009732]

>>7009721
>but do you think the demented grandma in the jury will say this?
yes

[Anonymous No.7009737]

>>7009557
People here forgot the difference of a tool and crutch.
And AI sucks as both.
>Verification not required.

[Anonymous No.7009740]

No AI could ever replicate the genius talent of Hunter Biden.

[Anonymous No.7009743]

>>7009563
Do you use an eraser anon? Because that's cheating.

[Anonymous No.7009745]

>>7009557
1 digital artist you know quit, because they are too weak minded. So this means all artists are going to quit?
Amazing logic there anon.

[Anonymous No.7009750]

>>7009557
you need to source two shittermedias to call it artists plural.

[Anonymous No.7009757]

>>7009743
Keep being smug like this, it is working wonder

[Anonymous No.7009761]

>>7009750
https://x.com/mifuyuvt/status/1743965799021195387?s=46&t=0BwyRF4kDKLPsbGpSOM1ag

https://x.com/momotexx/status/1743952853083853077?s=46&t=0BwyRF4kDKLPsbGpSOM1ag

https://x.com/fifteen_199/status/1743671846841823627?s=46&t=0BwyRF4kDKLPsbGpSOM1ag

[Anonymous No.7009763]

>>7009557
>rise of trad art.
What if they start doing AI trade art...?

[Anonymous No.7009765]

if youtubers can get away with reaction channels how will artists be able to defend their jpgs from being used by billion dollar companies

shit is so fucked

[Anonymous No.7009770]

I don't give a shit about these whiny internet points chasing Zoomers. I will continue to draw until I'm on my deathbed. Did trad artists give up when digital art was invented??

[Anonymous No.7009773]

>>7009765
Yep, shit is so fucked. Reaction channels used to be widely hated, but now it’s fucking accepted. As time goes on, creativity and hard work is dying, while content slop farms are becoming more popular. Seeing someone’s videos being taken and being edited with some subway surfer gameplay to “avoid” auto copyright bot is fucked.

[Anonymous No.7009774]

>>7009763
they've been doing that for decades. nobody cares.

[Anonymous No.7009775]

>>7009557
I'm so tired of these twitter niggers and their constant whining

[Anonymous No.7009776]

>>7009557
What did Wacom do with AI?

[Anonymous No.7009777]

>>7009776
They and many other tablet brands used ai slop for their ads, except maybe xp-pen.

[Anonymous No.7009778]

>>7009563
>Ah yes, let me just "lasso" my pencil sketched mistake
I don't even care about the argument but seeing the replies is fucking funny.
Also I thought art is about having fun.

[Anonymous No.7009780]

>>7009763
Will you show me a printer than anon...

[Anonymous No.7009781]

>>7009770
in the context of industry work, they absolutely did

[Anonymous No.7009783]

>>7009777
Nice trips. But why should I or anyone care about how the shit people of wacom promote themselves? Just don't buy their product.

[Anonymous No.7009786]

>>7009770
>Did trad artists give up when digital art was invented??
Yes, they got pushed out of their jobs for slower turnaround. Either you had to learn digital or you found another job. Either you embraced computers or switched careers

[Anonymous No.7009789]

>>7009781
and now the biggest studio you might be seeing is YouTubes self made stuff. How big were you expecting to make it without prior work experience. Even than most things have gone self made at this point

[Anonymous No.7009790]

>>7009789
what the fuck are you attempting to say?

[Anonymous No.7009794]

>>7009790
Well anon when asking children today or zoomers who are their inspiration or intrests for art/art related stuff how many will give you someone from the current big industry vs a youtuber or older works

[Anonymous No.7009795]

>>7009794
learn english, monkey

[Anonymous No.7009798]

>>7009789
>the biggest studio you might be seeing
what youtube studio is bigger than disney?

[Anonymous No.7009799]

>>7009795
where are you from

[Anonymous No.7009800]

>>7009783
> But why should I or anyone care about how the shit people of wacom promote themselves?
Because integrity, you retard. You right about not buying their products though.

[Anonymous No.7009806]

>>7009798
I'm saying your prob better going trying to make in YouTube or Patreon now than aiming for Disney because that's top 1%.
It's easier now more than ever do self made stuff yet you prob still complain about it. Unless you that 5yr or 10yr industry record on you at hand

[Anonymous No.7009811]

>>7009794

I think zooms see anime/cartoons/marvel/disney and get inspiration there, might not know the artists behinds them.

[Anonymous No.7009835]

>>7009557
>half of her posts is her selfies, dogs or too many wips of the same pic
i hate women

[Anonymous No.7009837]

Rip

[Anonymous No.7009841]

>>7009837
oh no not duolingo.

[Anonymous No.7009843]

Sorry but i think that are quitting are acting like babies, this along with refusing to use wacom and other drawing tablets just because they use ai is really childish. As an artist you have to get with the times, art is updating and you need to update with it.

[Anonymous No.7009847]

>>7009843
Quitting is based.
>art is updating and you need to update with it.
They don't want to be a cleanup bitch for AI

[Anonymous No.7009849]

>>7009627
You know you can play that game forever

[Anonymous No.7009852]

>>7009843
>>7009847
yes sirs I agree completely thank you sirs

[Anonymous No.7009854]

>>7009837
this was already terrible, you have to guess if you use tu or vous in french

[Anonymous No.7009855]

>>7009837
why would anyone need duolingo then?

[Anonymous No.7009856]

>>7009854
>>7009847
>>7009852
How come /ic become even worse now? What the fuck is this thread?
You don`t even fucking draw- whole fucking thread doesn`t draw.
*Clap

[Anonymous No.7009859]

>>7009856
Neither do you AIjeet

[Anonymous No.7009869]

>>7009563
as soon as you remove understanding of perspective, form, anatomy and shading from the equation

[Anonymous No.7009870]

>>7009610
Will you say this in 2050 when robots can objectively replace living life? Why have biology when soulless metal outlives carbon?

[Anonymous No.7009877]

>>7009557
AI Derangement Syndrome.

What a fucking drama queen. He sounds like he would have used any excuse to not complete any work

[Anonymous No.7009881]

>>7009557
literally who cry baby, yeah another western dev L

[Anonymous No.7009882]

>>7009877
an artist with that level of skill has enough passion/backbone to actually acquire a skill and therefore feel how that skill is being devalued since they actually put int he effort, something terminally loser copers like you just don't understand

[Anonymous No.7009885]

>>7009882
you don't draw.

[Anonymous No.7009886]

>>7009610
>You’ll be shunned for actually drawing once ai art becomes more acceptable,
This definitely will happen when AI becomes the majority as the younger generation doesn't take up art like it used to. AI is the greatest harassments tool against artists too

[Anonymous No.7009889]

>>7009885
neither do you, not in any real capacity, you have some vague idea of doing it but that's about it

what I said was 100% true and you know it

[Anonymous No.7009891]

>>7009882
>that skill is being devalued
how? i thought artists kept saying ai was overrated and couldn't affect actual artists.

[Anonymous No.7009892]

>>7009885
>thoughtful and concise reply
>you don't draw lol
kill yourself

[Anonymous No.7009896]

>>7009891
that's just copers who choose to live in their troonbrained fantasyland instead of facing the real world as it is

I have absolutely no problem admitting that AI is taking over the trade and it fucking sucks

[Anonymous No.7009897]

>>7009870
Even though on what said is retarded, but that might actually happen. People now a days are having less babies

[Anonymous No.7009898]

>>7009891
the has software updated and updated since then and will continue to update and get better

[Anonymous No.7009902]

>>7009628
>Those are sports to test human physical abilities to the absolute.
I didn't know swimming's only purpose was for sport instead of fucking survival or self enjoyment.
The fact the only mindset that comes from pro aifags is something connected to money proves why you're all subhuman.

[Anonymous No.7009903]

>>7009892
>thoughtful and concise
it was neither thoughtful nor concise. you said a bunch of shit that isn't based in reality and no one cares about.

[Anonymous No.7009904]

>>7009885
Not surprised tourist are using this statement. Leeches and non-artist want to fit in so badly for some reason

[Anonymous No.7009905]

>>7009897
Why the fuck would anyone have smelly real children when you can raise an immortal AI android from scratch?

[Anonymous No.7009908]

>>7009898
>the has software updated and updated since then and will continue to update
sir thank you for your reply.

[Anonymous No.7009909]

>>7009903
what did he say that was wrong? are you saying that people don't care that they're skills are being devalued by AI?

[Anonymous No.7009912]

>>7009882
Sounds like youre the one coping.
Lets see how much your "passion/backbone" stacks up against the greed of corporate America and BIg Tech you fucking clown.

[Anonymous No.7009913]

>>7009635
Everything before Ai requires your hands to directly alter the image, with the second to last being used by people that can't draw themselves but can remix a existing image and calling it all their work
AI is just photobashing without the human touch. It's the final destination of soullessness.

[Anonymous No.7009914]

AI will never stop me from achieving my dreams. Tradchads stay winning

[Anonymous No.7009915]

>>7009912
I'm not coping I'm literally understanding why one chooses not to fight the losing battle even when it's a very tough thing to face

[Anonymous No.7009916]

>>7009909
no one's skill is being devalued by AI, and no skilled artist with passion and backbone is saying
>oh nooo the ai looks marginally better than the horrendous slop from before, I'm just gonna quit now :'(

[Anonymous No.7009917]

>>7009912
you're missing the entire point of that incredibly simple post
>>7009916
so you're legitimately retarded, no wonder why you replied with >lol no draw

[Anonymous No.7009918]

>>7009915
Ok, so why would you have any issue with what I said...?
You did a complete 180 from "understanding" to reacting like yet another seething tranny with AI Derangement Syndrome
>>7009917
oh look, theres another one.

[Anonymous No.7009920]

>>7009915
See defenition of coping, you coping twat. Try not to seethe the next reply (you can`t).

[Anonymous No.7009921]

>>7009914
looks more like a nightmare

[Anonymous No.7009923]

>>7009914
im so glad all my degenerate art is fingerprint protected

[Anonymous No.7009924]

>>7009918
I have no issue with what you said other than explaining that I am not coping but instead accepting the reality of the matter
>>7009920
actual coping is dumb shit like deluding yourself into believing things that are more convenient for you, grow up

[Anonymous No.7009930]

1. this is NOT some beginner loser looking for an excuse to give up
2. this is someone who actually had the drive to learn how to properly draw as a profession, actually facing a very difficult choice of giving up a hard earned skill because it's being made irrelevant, that's the sort of difficult shit men have to go through in their life if they want to overcome suffering, that is to say you recognize even the most inconvenient realities instead of crawling into some safe space in your mind and coping until your inevitable suffering

[Anonymous No.7009931]

>>7009914
we are so fucked.

[Anonymous No.7009932]

>>7009930
>this is NOT some beginner loser looking for an excuse to give up
yes it is.

[Anonymous No.7009933]

>>7009932
that's very competent artwork, you're a deluded trannyfreek

[Anonymous No.7009934]

>>7009835
TOO MANY BOWLS OF THAT GREEN no lucky charms
the maids come around too much
parents ain't around enough

[Anonymous No.7009935]

>>7009932
pyw

[Anonymous No.7009936]

>>7009932
THIS. At least some sane people on /ic still.
/ic is a sjw`s, sirs, tourists, underagefags and redditors cespool now? Wtf is this shit?

[Anonymous No.7009937]

>>7009930
Procucks roll over and die so Hobbychads keep drawing

[Anonymous No.7009938]

>>7009921
>>7009923
>>7009931
It'll be better when I'm done. Trust. It's just a WIP rn. My final pieces are a lot better.

[Anonymous No.7009939]

>>7009932
Show work that’s not beginner level then

[Anonymous No.7009940]

>>7009937
no one gives a shit about hobbyincels, you're basically just a loser who's going to keep being one, wow you lost nothing because you had nothing

if you actually had the ethic to learn this shit you'd had done it by now and therefore it'd be your profession :)

[Anonymous No.7009941]

Nobody fucking cares whether you keep drawing or not. You can keep that shit to yourself. No need to inform everybody else. The world doesn't revolve around you.

[Anonymous No.7009942]

>>7009930
it's an attention whore whoring for attention and sympathy likes. it's literally just a woman fishing for people to say
>nooo don't quit you're so perfect and wonderful!

[Anonymous No.7009943]

>>7009931
kek

[Anonymous No.7009944]

>>7009933
Thats only says about your level if you consider it competent and anything beyond that.
>deluded trannyfreek
Sir
Nta btw.

[Anonymous No.7009945]

>>7009672
Remixing is just technical art. More souless than real art, but because it's hand crafted, it's still more soulful than Aislop: the removal of human hands. It's the difference between a hand built car, a machine produced clone based on a blueprint made by human design, and when the Ai takes all car designs ever existed and mashes them together but then the "owner" of the bot claims they revolutionized car design.

[Anonymous No.7009948]

>>7009942
real

[Anonymous No.7009949]

>>7009610
>you’ll be shunned for actually drawing once ai art becomes more acceptable
actually put a fucking bullet through your head, god was the most offensively desperate attempt at bait I've ever read, actual mental retardation

[Anonymous No.7009950]

>>7009930
>actually facing a very difficult choice of giving up a hard earned skill because it's being made irrelevant
ai is only making monetized coomer fan-art irrelevant. it's not smart enough to make up truly appealing and unique designs or do any sort of world-building or personality for your characters.
helltaker dev built a small game to showcase his art and characters. he's wildly successful because of it. in the same vein, ena blew up immensely because of how appealing her design was.

artists are just forcing themselves into a bubble for no reason instead of utilizing other skillsets to make them stand out.

[Anonymous No.7009951]

>>7009882
>an artist with that level of skill
>passion/backbone
>effort
Nigger, he's a shitty Gloss copycat. A devaluation of a devaluation. He lost the game before reaching the starting line. He lost before reaching the right area code.

[Anonymous No.7009954]

>>7009942
God I hate artists who spam reaction memes

[Anonymous No.7009953]

>>7009944
>anything less than KJG is not competent
no you're just incredibly naive and deluded, your work is definitely vomit yet you think you will not only acquire the skill of the OP artist but surpass it too, meanwhile you're on the board for stagnated losers

[Anonymous No.7009956]

>>7009781
>>7009786
>>7009837
They should learn to code.

[Anonymous No.7009957]

>>7009942
she's hot so I dont give a shit. twitter is just a porn site for kids anyways

[Anonymous No.7009959]

>>7009950
for a lot of people tons of the fun in producing art lies in the actual draftsmanship and there's nothing wrong with that

the idea side of the shit can be toyed around with in AI just the same

[Anonymous No.7009960]

>>7009877
>AIDS

[Anonymous No.7009964]

>>7009957
she's a topless stream away from being a copy pasted twitch thot.

[Anonymous No.7009966]

>>7009951
I see competent use of colors and values, form and composition etc. it looks like actual thought and effort is put into it

[Anonymous No.7009967]

>>7009953
Lolcow (You)
Op pic is a low level average artist. Oekaki guys can draw better than this. I already said it and i will repeat it- It only says about your level and delusions. Cope.

[Anonymous No.7009969]

>>7009967
pyw, oh wait that would mean exposing yourself as subhuman apparently since the OP qualifies for entry level artwork on your scale

[Anonymous No.7009971]

>>7009966
>I see
Check your eyes then or taste.

[Anonymous No.7009972]

>>7009966
Do you know Gloss? The porn artist? This guy is an blatantly copping his style and content with not a single innovation or personal touch to speak of. Stop letting renderfagging fool you. Nothing of value was lost here.

[Anonymous No.7009973]

>>7009971
you're some generic insufferable fart sniffer who can't even draw a box

[Anonymous No.7009976]

>>7009969
>OP qualifies for entry level artwork on your scale
On scale of any artschool and old /ic. Now gtfo from muh board ngmi tourist. Did you joined last year? And you still that bad? Damn, ngmi generation indeed.

[Anonymous No.7009977]

>>7009972
the fundamentals are competent I really don't care about the stabilization itself, it's competent

and no I don't know who you refer to

[Anonymous No.7009978]

>>7009972
>Do you know Gloss? The porn artist?
no idea who that is
googled it
wish I hadn't. extremely unappealing art.

[Anonymous No.7009979]

>>7009936
back to twitter, nigger
you type like a tranny

[Anonymous No.7009980]

>>7009976
not posting your artwork exposes you just the same
>>7009977
stylization*

[Anonymous No.7009981]

>>7009973
Terminally online. Youre the kind to pay for onlyfans and enjoy disney slop. Nice taste, did your boyfriend gave it to you?

[Anonymous No.7009982]

>>7009973
You surprised? Half the board is filled with brain dead fucks that don’t draw or shitpost instead of drawing. Even this thread proved it

[Anonymous No.7009983]

>>7009956
unironically closer to death than art

[Anonymous No.7009984]

>>7009981
you can cut the crap consider where we are, you're going on a pointless tangent now
>>7009982
not at all, it's delusion and cope

[Anonymous No.7009985]

>>7009959
>draftsmanship
sports are the same, but everybody already knows only less than 1% of athletes can actually make a living out of it. the others just have to play it for fun.
to me, art is just a vehicle to bring out larger worlds and stories. i don't really see the appeal in treating it like a sport when i can just go out and jog to get a greater feeling.
>the idea side of the shit can be toyed around with in AI just the same
only on the surface level. even chatgpt can't remember a lot of details or keep things consistent. you'll still need to flex your writing skills if you want to captivate an audience.

[Anonymous No.7009988]

>>7009977
>the fundamentals are competent
>doesn't care about the style or content
You really should. That's the actual art part. There are a million rendermonkeys out there. Ideas, originality holds more weight. It's the one thing AI can't defeat currently.

[Anonymous No.7009989]

>>7009976
>Did you joined
do the needful

[Anonymous No.7009990]

>>7009981
What kind of art do you like?

[Anonymous No.7009991]

>>7009891
>how...is skill being devalued?
This is how, it takes 10,000 hours of grinding to get good at expert level. It's called the 10,000 hour rule. The reward for learning how to draw, is that you can make your imagination a reality. Now AI can do that, bypassing the 10,000 hour grind for anyone.

[Anonymous No.7009993]

>>7009985
there's aspiring pros just the same

also sports are more of a competition so it's like chess where a computer doesn't remove the core of it

with artwork you're actually dealing with a product

[Anonymous No.7009994]

>>7009984
>>7009982
Oh that`s your boyfriend...

[Anonymous No.7009995]

>>7009988
style is subjective, I simply notice it's competent and appealing which means the artist put in actual effort to acquire the skill, you're a fucking nigger

[Anonymous No.7009996]

>>7009985
if you’re not living from it, you’re not an athlete, you stupid nigger

[Anonymous No.7009997]

>>7009994
Exhibit a

[Anonymous No.7009999]

>>7009991
Shouldn't have wasted your life drawing boxes and Loomis heads then

[Anonymous No.7010000]

>>7009995
none of this changes that it's just a woman fishing for compliments, a tale as old as time.

[Anonymous No.7010001]

>>7009999
Checked, but hindsight is 20-20.

[Anonymous No.7010002]

>>7009995
>I simply notice it's competent and appealing
Appealing and competent to (You)
>you're a fucking nigger

[Anonymous No.7010005]

>>7010000
oh did this artist already backpedal or are you just injecting your incelshit into this?

[Anonymous No.7010006]

>>7009999
>shouldn’t have wasted your time drawing
Why are you here?

[Anonymous No.7010007]

>>7010002
let's see your artwork, I bet you have the most novel style out there, not derived from anything else and I bet your fundies such as sense of form in space is unmatched while your knowledge of rendering is basically flawless

[Anonymous No.7010008]

>>7009996
you're thinking of being a professional. athletes are just people who are good at sports, anon.

[Anonymous No.7010009]

>>7010006
Tranny leaving context outside of greentext... ONIONS!

[Anonymous No.7010010]

>>7009991
>he reward for learning how to draw, is that you can make your imagination a reality. Now AI can do that
ai can't do that, it only does fan-art well. it might be able to do it once we get brain scanning technology, but that's a breaking point for humanity that will affect all fields outside of art as well.

[Anonymous No.7010011]

>>7010005
>incelshit
lol

[Anonymous No.7010012]

>>7010000
>none of this changes that it's just a woman fishing for compliments, a tale as old as time.
quads of truth

[Anonymous No.7010013]

>>7010011
well you seem to have literally just injected your headcanon into this

[Anonymous No.7010015]

>>7010011
Don`t argue with idiots.

[Anonymous No.7010018]

>>7010010
>ai can't do that, it only does fan-art well. it might be able to do it once we get brain scanning technology, but that's a breaking point for humanity that will affect all fields outside of art as well.
Imagine /ic at that point in time, hehehe! Funny thread.

[Anonymous No.7010019]

>>7010015
>artist quits drawing
>nothing indicates that this isn't actually the case
>losers on 4chan cope by inventing their own headcanon without a shred of evidence

[Anonymous No.7010024]

>>7010010
met already showed electrodes on your head measuring your brainwaves and it being decoded into an image of what you imagine by a generative AI

[Anonymous No.7010025]

>>7010019
>Sjw zoomer retard goes to 4chan
>Shits himself
>Cries
>"YOU ALL SMELLY!!! REEEEEEEEE!"

[Anonymous No.7010026]

>>7009995
You're the exact mouthbreather audience that AI trash is for. That's what it puts the fear of god in you. You can't even decouple superficial "style" from genuine artistry. It's always about muh appeal muh dick muh pretty colors with you.
*You can not separate art from skill*. If you use your skills to make trash, you have no skill. The gorillion Sakimichan copycats make worthless trash, their skill is worth fuck-all and AI has simply proven that. There's no sense in pretending this cheap smut had artistic value before the robots came along to dick it down.

[Anonymous No.7010029]

>>7010025
you're a nigger
>>7010026
all this "normies eat this slop I am super duper special" cringe shit doesn't change anything about it taking over in practice, you just want to feel special even though you're not

[Anonymous No.7010031]

>>7010026
Based, highfive!

[Anonymous No.7010032]

>>7010024
to replicate "imagination into art", the AI needs to have access to every neuron into your brain and be powerful and smart enough to process what you actually want instead of what you visualize in your head.

[Anonymous No.7010034]

>>7010029
You are a brainwashed attentionwhore ngmi manchild.

[Anonymous No.7010035]

I am sad about AI superseding human artists but the silver lining in this is that it also dunks on the insufferable pretentious third worlder permabeg retards on this board, I hope you kill yourself and I hope hell exists

[Anonymous No.7010036]

>>7010032
>to process what you actually want instead of what you visualize in your head.
Elaborate, nta.

[Anonymous No.7010037]

>>7010029
I don't care that McDonald's workers lose their jobs to robots, and I don't care that shitty copycat smut peddlers lose theirs. I think if you do, you're an idiot.

[Anonymous No.7010038]

>>7010019
>artist quits drawing
she's not quitting drawing and has explicitly said so.

[Anonymous No.7010039]

>>7010032
yeah bro you can translate your entire brain activity onto paper with the power of your hand, I believe in you! jesus fucking christ the cope is unreal

as if your baby brain idea of anime tits has any inherent worth over an algorithm spitting it out in the first place

[Anonymous No.7010041]

>>7010035
Samefag gtfo

[Anonymous No.7010042]

>>7010034
you're talking to yourself

[Anonymous No.7010043]

>>7010039
>yeah bro you can translate your entire brain activity onto paper with the power of your hand
yes, that's literally what creating art is.

[Anonymous No.7010045]

>>7010042
>No u
No, im talking to (insert pronoun)

[Anonymous No.7010048]

>>7010043
why are you unable to doodle boxes then? oh wait maybe there's actually a translation layer that has to be developed and distills information down (therefore lossy)

[Anonymous No.7010049]

>>7010036
i'm not a neuroscientist, but i doubt our brain is actually capable of visualizing any type of imagery in an actual sense. it's more like phantom thoughts and dreaming.
an ai will still need to do a lot of guess-work if it wants to actually perform the epitome of "imagination into art".
if it has access to all of the information in your brain, your thoughts, your memories, your tastes, your intentions; it will be capable of doing that.
>>7010039
it's just an elaboration of what needs to be done in some hypothetical future technology, not an explanation of existing technology. calm down, bro.

[Anonymous No.7010050]

>>7010039
>yeah bro you can translate your entire brain activity onto paper with the power of your hand
just draw

[Anonymous No.7010051]

>>7010008
yeah, good enough to compete, imbecile
name one athlete who doesn’t compete professionally

[Anonymous No.7010054]

>>7010048
>why are you unable to doodle boxes then?
why are you projecting your inability to draw onto me?

[Anonymous No.7010055]

>>7010051
almost every school athlete, including most college athletes?

[Anonymous No.7010058]

>>7010054
ok well let's supposed you can doodle a loose freehand box like this in a few seconds, why are you unable to draw on a professional level? still the same question

[Anonymous No.7010062]

>>7009557
Nice, less competition

[Anonymous No.7010063]

>>7010058
seems good enough

[Anonymous No.7010066]

>>7010055
that’s called a student-athlete
because… wait for it… he’s training to be an athlete
retired athlete also means one who retired from competing ie being an athlete, and not someone who is in retirement but good at sports, you dumb fucking nigger

[Anonymous No.7010068]

>>7010049
>i'm not a neuroscientist, but i doubt our brain is actually capable of visualizing any type of imagery in an actual sense.
Well that`s what ai can "interprent" if it`s possible most likely more precise than as it works now with words.
>it's more like phantom thoughts and dreaming.
Spatial intelligence. The problem of it is consistency and it is trainable. That`s why aphantasia memes exist. GI yet again said that he can visualise like 70% and transfer it to paper, as i remember.
>an ai will still need to do a lot of guess-work if it wants to actually perform the epitome of "imagination into art".
Sure. But that would still be far ahead from rn, if it would work of course.
I also remember there was video interpretation of a cat vision and how it sees our faces on yt. I`d guess it would work simmilar to this with ai.
>if it has access to all of the information in your brain, your thoughts, your memories, your tastes, your intentions; it will be capable of doing that.
Well again as far as art goes 100% vizualisation probably not possible. So there still would be guessing treshold somewhere above 50- 60 percents depending on a person.
Fun topic non the less.

[Anonymous No.7010071]

>>7010062
Based. Fuck the trannies! Sounds gay tho... KEK

[Anonymous No.7010073]

>>7010068
none*

[Anonymous No.7010074]

>>7010068
at least for me I can visualize in some abstract sense but in no way is it the same kind of experience as seeing things with my eyes, so I never understood the aphantasia apple meme

[Anonymous No.7010076]

>>7010049
>if it has access to all of the information in your brain, your thoughts, your memories, your tastes, your intentions; it will be capable of doing that.
We will be fucked as a society in general if machines can access our thoughts, putting art aside.

[Anonymous No.7010081]

>>7010066
>he’s training to be an athlete
no, he's training AS an athlete. he's already considered an athlete if he competes in the sport seriously.
>and not someone who is in retirement but good at sports
yes, if you're taking my words literally. i know there's a distinction between somebody who is good at sports and somebody who is currently not playing sports.

also, what the fuck are you trying to argue. are you just nitpicking me for fun?

[Anonymous No.7010085]

>>7010074
Concentrating on the same vision and shaping it more as you progress. That`s how most artists do it. From a thumbnail stage and further progress you kinda correct and make your mental image more clear and defined. So yeah, probably 100% recreation isn`t possible at least because it isn`t 100% shaped at the initial stage of planning. That`s again why there is a threshold in the first place.

[Anonymous No.7010091]

>>7010076
it's inevitable, since we kinda need the technology to cure cancer and disease.
just hope that we purge all forms of large-scale capitalistic greed from our society before we reach that point.

[Anonymous No.7010092]

>>7010081
>he's already considered an athlete if he competes in the sport seriously
he’s considered a student-athlete

[Anonymous No.7010093]

>>7010085
I meant that for me it's not some dumb image but instead it's more of experiencing some abstract spatial feel for the thing I'm visualizing

I really don't understand what the fuck pic related is getting at, seems fucking retarded to me desu

[Anonymous No.7010096]

>>7010092
a student-athlete is also an athlete. there is no formal skill requisite for what makes an athlete an athlete.
it's the same for student-artists and artists.

[Anonymous No.7010099]

>>7009635

[Anonymous No.7010100]

>>7009914
Based

[Anonymous No.7010101]

>>7010093
Pic related is wrong at least in a sense that its not about details or shape, it`s about the clarity and consistency of the mental image. Its like being blind or partially blind vs having perfect vision.

[Anonymous No.7010103]

>>7010096
>>7010092
You both ain`t /fit wtf is this shit?

[Anonymous No.7010105]

>>7010103
it's the sperg olympics where the arguments revolve around irrelevant semantics

[Anonymous No.7010112]

>>7010105
Heh.

[Anonymous No.7010120]

>>7010103
>/fit
this isn’t reddit

[Anonymous No.7010121]

>>7009914
holy kek

[Anonymous No.7010129]

>>7009638
>>7009638
well you see

[Anonymous No.7010131]

>>7010120
Oh sweet summer child...
>He doesn`t know

[Anonymous No.7010132]

>>7010071
People have no idea how common this is, computer animation already caused a mass extinction event like 20 years ago, many artists were suddenly flipping burgers because one skilled animator with a pc could now do the work of several dozen 2d animators.
AI is just the next step, those who survive and adapt shall bask in glory.

[Anonymous No.7010134]

>>7009914
/Thread, should end on this note here nothing toping it

[Anonymous No.7010135]

im gonna keep drawing

[Anonymous No.7010137]

>>7010132
>AI is just the next step, those who survive and adapt shall bask in glory.
Based gmi.

[Anonymous No.7010141]

>>7010137
Why do beg lvl drawings than get popular still

[Anonymous No.7010144]

>>7010141
Cause there is such a thing as a personal taste which is "discussed" somewhere above in the thread.

[Anonymous No.7010148]

>>7010132
Even before that photography was another mass die off, lots of portrait artists either had to skill up and become illustrators or go hit the markets.
The science based competition has been raising the market floor for centuries.
Trying to mass produce art, commercialize it and just turn it into another cog within the capitalist game, such is the way.
You look for art as an escape?
They see it as another source of revenue and you are too inefficient, AI doesn’t sleep, doesn’t get art block, doesn’t need any salary nor commission money.
It’s a raw tool, now whatever your attitude is about AI, remember, AI may improve the process efficiency but it cannot replace artists.
Just like 3D computer animation and photography couldn’t do it, AI popularizes the artistic process and game.
In fact it may result in even more money flowing into the art industry.
Don’t let AI doomsay get you, they just want you to drop out and have one less mouth drinking from the bowl

[Anonymous No.7010152]

>>7010137
Appreciate it, best of luck anon

[Anonymous No.7010155]

>>7010152
Yep, good luck.

[Anonymous No.7010157]

>>7010132
>20 years ago was an extinction event
But anon what do you call early newgrounds and YouTube era than

[Anonymous No.7010162]

>>7010132
source for that? the 2d animators just used 3d then or went on to make animation in other productions
even today there is still 2d animaton made

[Anonymous No.7010170]

>>7010131
go back

[Anonymous No.7010172]

>>7010170
Where? To /fit/ nah it died when rep count threads died.

[Anonymous No.7010176]

>>7010162
Much smaller scale fren, look up angryanimator.
https://www.angryanimator.com/word/
Once shared his experience at the studios, had this coworker who failed to adapt and move 2d digital animation, failed to find work for several months and simply dropped out of the game.
Do you see much 2d animation done with pencil and paper beyond those flip books?
Just used 3D, just moved to digital animation.
Not everyone is capable of that.
Sometimes all an animator can do is inbetween mindlessly, now he has to deal with layers and timing on his own computer, heck even owning a computer wasn’t such an easy thing back then, it was a deep plunge and if you had no experience using one it made it all the much harder to learn and adapt to the new demands of the animation market and more importantly to stick to your team’s schedule then you had to submit the files to the supervisor on time of course. No hints or helping hands from fellow inbetweeners or advice from the key animator.
Like before that you could go home and work things out, now if you are out of the office no more access to the sweet pc magic.
You fall behind deadlines once, twice and boom you are suddenly laid off along a few others.
Oh well, what a pity.

[Anonymous No.7010208]

>>7009570
You do know thats pointless, right? The only Stable Diffusion people use is 1.5 still to this day because when you remove half of all artists and nudity from dataset, it becomes dogshit unsurprisingly. But that does not matter, LORAs and other shit still works on the old version. When SD released it was truly can being let out of the bag because even the first version was possible to build on easily.

[Anonymous No.7010250]

>>7010208
SD 1.5 is garbage and a threat to nobody, you’re delusional if you think it’s endangering anyone’s income

[Anonymous No.7010428]

>>7009914
I kneel

[Anonymous No.7010449]

>>7009914
Update. AI cannot possibly recreate this B)

[Anonymous No.7010732]

>>7009557
If a company using ai really causes you to become this dejected, you probably should just give up. I get that it's especially gay for a company that makes drawing tablets to use ai art, but still, its a company, what does it actually matter to you personally? It's worth it to think about next time you're buying a tablet, but besides that who cares what wacom is doing? People who are online too much always get so worked up about things, but this could also just be a case of woman brain.

>>7009569
There are at least a couple viable alternatives to wacom, so no they definitely don't have a monopoly. They are still the biggest, but just because of legacy, not any big advantage they hold. People are worked up because art people on twitter love to mald over ai. I think ai is gay and retarded just as much as the next guy, but I just don't really care enough to get worked up over every little thing. Also, this wacom thing doesn't actually matter until you are going to buy a new tablet. It's not like their drivers take screenshots of your art to upload to an ai database, they just used an ai pic in a tweet. Getting so upset you quit digital art doesn't make any sense. You already own the tablet, are you going to throw it away? Just get a different brand or buy used next time you need a new tablet if you really care.

>>7009577
Yeah this is just twitter brain, "I want attention now"

>>7009593
>the bullshit saying "no cheating, only tools" is what led to AI
Similar to how a lot of people crying over ai now are these gay twitter people who are also the types to say "nothing matters just enjoy things". To anybody with a brain, things actually do matter, but it's funny in a way for being too cool to care about anything to blow up in their faces. Suddenly art is objective again and you can't get away with being ass.

Ultimately a side effect long term of ai art is that real art actually has to be good.

[Anonymous No.7010943]

>>7009557
reject technology, it's time to return to monke

[Anonymous No.7010959]

>>7010943
monkey see, monkey do!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.7011010]

If you're all quitting, then I'm asking admins to change this place to the /ai/ board.

[Anonymous No.7011257]

>>7011010
Fuck off mikufag

[Anonymous No.7012641]

>>7009610
Actual female mindset lol
>m-my coworkers are mocking my hecking hobby! i must find another one!! i need validayshun!!

[Anonymous No.7012932]

AI is taking over everything that's not in trade.
It will only get worse.
At least it also hit the smug techniggers who were celebrating AI fucking everything over, so that's a plus