/int/ & /beg/ - Intermediate and Beginners Thread

[Anonymous No.7001150]

If you are a /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
Use this thread instead of making new threads or post in the drawthread with fundamental exercises.

>READ THE STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view

>TRY TO BE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK.
When giving feedback, avoid vague "advice" - point what's wrong and try to give the anon you're quoting a clear direction
to improve their art (study heads < watch THIS VIDEO about head structure, read THIS SECTION of THIS ARTIST'S BOOK, etc).
You, feedback seeking anon, should also try to be clear and concise when asking for critique/help.
When posting your artwork, say what you want help with, and what's your goal with the study/artwork.

previous thread: >>6997688

[Anonymous No.7001157]

>>7001150
Remember:
before criticising any of my work I post, I will require this information about you
1. your full name - name and surname
2. the address of your current residence
3. the address of your workplace
4. your marital status and the name of your spouse, if any
5. your annual wage, before and after tax
6. your license plate
7. your place of birth
8. the names of your parents
9. your credit card number and the expiration date
and finally you MUST post your work.
If but one of these points is not met, or, if I am unable to find a Wikipedia page about you, that matches the information you have given, that lists you as a prominent artist in any artistic field, all your critique directed towards me or my work is invalid and actually the opposite of what you say is true and my work is perfect and devoid of any mistakes.
Also, when you do criticise my work, you can not use any word included in the following list because your post will automatically get filtered by my automatic filtering system. You must treat me like a toddler when you criticise my work or I will cry.
https://rentry.org/za5t5

Let's keep it nice and civil in here, folks.

[Anonymous No.7001163]

Anyone use Intuos Pro? How do you deal with how quickly nibs wear? One drawing session and they're already developing an edge, I don't press particularly hard, either. The pen is much better than my old shitty Huion but the nib on that thing easily lasted for weeks

[Anonymous No.7001176]

>Do a sketch
>Start off good
>Put some more stuff because I'm in the zone
>Rather happy
>Start lineart
>It turns immediately to crap
EVERY FUCKING TIME

[Anonymous No.7001177]

Please critique this.

[Anonymous No.7001179]

>>7001163
They eat though nibs quickly at first but once the surface wears in a bit it's not so bad, should take a month or two.

[Anonymous No.7001188]

>>7001176
#relatable #artproblems

https://youtu.be/O61NED7VZIc?si=hGtsH9k0303fVx0J
https://youtu.be/bUCx3WW8s3g?si=t9UF23CbvukBBHsc

Good luck.

[Anonymous No.7001194]

made this for a guy in a /b/ draw thread

[Anonymous No.7001200]

>>7001188
Correcting:
https://youtu.be/O61NED7VZIc
https://youtu.be/NBE-RTFkXDk

[Anonymous No.7001204]

>>7001179
Thanks, hope you're right. With the nibs being so expensive and the discontinued smooth replacement surface it feels like a cash grab from Wacom, which sucks because the device itself is fantastic

[Anonymous No.7001208]

>>7001194
Is that Blueberry from Onirism?

[Anonymous No.7001217]

>>7001177
looks good, kinda wet, colors looks bluish, maybe work on brushwork and edge control between the lighter colors.

[Anonymous No.7001272]

I still can’t get these sitting poses right. Getting filtered by 3D space, advice?

[Anonymous No.7001273]

>>7001272
mfw

[Anonymous No.7001275]

What's up with the ai bait posts on this board lately

[Anonymous No.7001288]

>>7001163

I use a medium size and I stick cheap ipad tempered glass on it. I prefer the smooth surface but it might feel like shit for you.

I still use the nib that is on the stylus when I got it.

[Anonymous No.7001293]

>>7001275
It’s always something. Ai, East vs West, loli debate, neuroplasticity, aphantasia, twitter drama, etc
Just hide the threads and move on, trying to understand why schizos behave the way they do will only result in mental anguish

[Anonymous No.7001307]

>>7001142
>Is it based on a 3d model?
no I just designed the pose from my head, thats probably why it looks not good

[Anonymous No.7001314]

>>7001288
Do you mean a screen protector or actual glass? I've got a large, I can get tempered glass cut to size pretty cheaply, about 20 euro

[Anonymous No.7001338]

>>7001177
use harder edges, other than that, lovely work free willy

[Anonymous No.7001341]

[Anonymous No.7001347]

>>7001341
Holy shit is this googly-eye anon? I'm so proud

[Anonymous No.7001361]

I really want to start to learn to draw now, I've always just felt like I can't but I feel more confident about it after having used psychedelics a dozen or so times.
Anyway, should I start out by just drawing on paper with a pencil, or should I get some really cheap drawing tablet?

[Anonymous No.7001367]

I was asked to draw Empusa in this pose but I'm struggling a lot, do you have any tips?

[Anonymous No.7001406]

>>7001361
trad is great imo since you're not looking at a screen with potential distractions

[Anonymous No.7001429]

>>7001208
apparently

[Anonymous No.7001469]

>>7001367
I mean, you already have the ref. I you don't tell us what you're specifically struggling with or post your WIP (ideal), we can't help you.

[Anonymous No.7001471]

>>7001361
Paper and pencil. Read keys to drawing.

[Anonymous No.7001472]

critique please?

[Anonymous No.7001474]

>>7001472
ALICE???

[Anonymous No.7001479]

critique please?

[Anonymous No.7001509]

>>7001479
colouring is great, but I can't tell if yellow guy is pinning black bunny to the ground, doing some kind of weird collar tie or something else.

[Anonymous No.7001549]

>>7001509
they are both standing, she is feeling the fur on her chest and cheek

[Anonymous No.7001553]

>>7001472
Values and lighting my friend
I like the dramatic shadows being cast on her, but the face itself has weird feeling values - the face feels flat because your shadow values are bleeding into your light values.

I would start with hard brushes to set your values up, then blend.
That way your eyes can better judge the planes and how they read, so there is a clear distinction between shadow and lit areas. Also lets you plan good shapes.

This might help :) (Macro Bucci, love him!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcCJ2CU-bFw

[Anonymous No.7001555]

day 2 of proko basics
i wanna get better at observation so I can start the finch roadmap soon, I know I should just draw more from reference, but draw what exactly?
I was thinking of copying the krenz images on asg before I tackle something more complicated like manga, is that a good idea?

[Anonymous No.7001568]

>>7001472
>>7001553
hope this helps <3

>Added hightlights based on the forehead being highlighted. . so lightsouce from above
>Added cast shadow to neck
>toned down value of the eye and upper lip to reflect light souce not hitting it directly
>Blurred some of the edges in the hair silhouette (maybe too much:)

[Anonymous No.7001594]

>>7001367
Why nobody ever asks me to draw cool stuff like that?

[Anonymous No.7001603]

>>7001150
YOOOO HOLY SHIT YOU USED MY DRAWING.

LET'S GOOOOO AWESOME HAHAHA

[Anonymous No.7001605]

>>7001474
yea, lol

[Anonymous No.7001606]

Anon in the previous tread (BEG INT) asked for my blog (did not have one so I just made one) so im posting here along something new
>>6999731
>>6999707
Twitter: @Jerichosketch

[Anonymous No.7001608]

>>7001553
thanks man!! kinda see it now
(Also love Bucci, hes the goat)

[Anonymous No.7001609]

>>7001361
I would highly, HIGHLY recommend you do trad first, and not erase anything. Not only does it give you better control over where your lines go and better understanding of the materials you're using, but it also keeps you from deleting or trying to "fix" your mistakes so you can look at them and understand what you did wrong. Also helps with chicken scratching.

Go trad first, and if drawing ends up really being your thing, start experimenting with a cheap drawing tablet.

[Anonymous No.7001612]

>>7001177
>bright white background
I hate you as much as you hate your eyes.

[Anonymous No.7001613]

>>7001568
dammmn, looks great anon

[Anonymous No.7001620]

trying some scenes

[Anonymous No.7001630]

>>7001568
Hi, different anonn. Added color without the red filter for you to check how the better values improve the color itself. Having good values not only makes better lights and shadows but makes the rest of the colors richer as a result.

Special emphasis on the eyes.

[Anonymous No.7001651]

>Dread the lineart step
>Draw only sketches instead
I'll do the lineart. (Tomorrow.)

[Anonymous No.7001668]

Why I can't sketch in digital? It feels like shitting upside down fuck

[Anonymous No.7001692]

I won't be drawing for this thread, either. Nor for any for the rest of the year and, in fact, the rest of my life. But I'll keep you posted on my progress toward this goal!

[Anonymous No.7001693]

Nobody cares.

[Anonymous No.7001698]

>>7001347
now we draw yor

[Anonymous No.7001699]

and spec ops

[Anonymous No.7001704]

and then we draw Rapid Juice from Nickel.

[Anonymous No.7001754]

Redrew the same face for hours finally got a result I'm somewhat happy with

[Anonymous No.7001756]

why is it that when my drawing turns out well I'm only moderately happy for 10 minutes but if it looks like crap I'm devastated and think about quitting drawing

[Anonymous No.7001757]

how do you get better at doing heads and faces and facial features
i feel like bodies are relatively easier to manage but even then proportions are tough

[Anonymous No.7001769]

>no pawell posts for last 3 days

uhhh permabeg sisters this is not looking so good

[Anonymous No.7001772]

>>7001150
im going to do drawabox

[Anonymous No.7001775]

>>7001769
>spending time with your family and friends on the holidays
ngmi

[Anonymous No.7001778]

WIP
trying to learn to render, any critiques so far?

[Anonymous No.7001779]

>>7001778
the ref

[Anonymous No.7001795]

>>7001150
how long should gesture training take? 2 mins for basic, 5 mins for landmarks and construction, and 10 mins for muscle écorché?

Unrelated but say a ribcage is bending backwards from the pelvis. Should the stretched side be an S curve, or a reverse S curve? I don't understand when it should be a reversed S or not.

[Anonymous No.7001805]

spent way too long on this just to realize after making this image all the extra shit I had fucked up like right torso TOO squished, left ribcage bump too protruding, basically no arm contours very basic shape, no indication of the spines curve at bottom, the head etc.

besides that any crits bros or am I on the rightish track if i keep it going?

[Anonymous No.7001824]

>>7001150
Found someone's study online (picrel) and was curious: if I wanted to get quicker at drawing, what would be an ideal total time for something like this?

[Anonymous No.7001829]

>>7001824
I think its more important to get it right, than how long it takes. As you get more familiar with it, you will get faster, of course. I think for me it would take 30-45 mins per figure here. I am >>7001620

[Anonymous No.7001842]

Any advice ? I just really want this in a more ressiance style. Or at least a step below that. I don't care about exactly replicating but I'm having a hard time with painting metal reflections and im not sure if using Caravaggio was a good idea for the application The armor on the creature is supposed to be metallic.

[Anonymous No.7001847]

>>7001805
Her legs are about to snap brother. Should've started with a gesture drawing first to get the flow and weight distribution down first.

[Anonymous No.7001852]

>>7001778
to quote Bob Ross, the scene gets lighter as you move farther away.

[Anonymous No.7001857]

>>7001805
get in a habit of checking what lines up with what across the whole drawing to check where you're at. like the right elbow lines up with left shoulder, ribcage hangs out past pelvis, etc.
you'll also have an easier time if you start with straighter lines and then try to refine it into a nice curve later.

[Anonymous No.7001871]

>>7001847
the legs are just FUCKED, im trying to follow steve hustons nma figure drawing course and the way he goes about it/ his method for gesture into construction at least so far. but as you can see i dropped the ball
>>7001857
thanks man that pic is extremely helpful, I've been told that before and have been trying my hardest to keep things in line using other parts of the body as guides but just not quite good enough yet. one thing though is left shoulder i had lined up with the hip bone but ended up redoing that entire shoulder/ torso area which fucked it, definitely need to just get everything down right simplified before "finalizing" anything

[Anonymous No.7001880]

>>7001824
who is the artist btw? Would love to see more of their stuff

[Anonymous No.7001918]

>>7001606
Thanks friendo, glad to see you went through with making one!

[Anonymous No.7001943]

cant get the angle right on the restrained guys head, any advice?

[Anonymous No.7001950]

>>7001778
I personally dont like it. Doesn't work, it looks like they are bugs with sharp pointy hair, looks /beg/, especially the fact that so many are pointing straight up, grass in nature is random. Only area that works is the orange grass in the bottom right area.
>>7001757
draw bigger, you are working against yourself in this small. also learn form.
>>7001704
base
>>7001620
ultrabase, storytelling in a picture
>>7001555
come on bro, draw what? figure this out for yourslef, let this be the least problem.... tip: whatever is in front of you
>>7001341
base
>>7001177
base
>>7001943
idk

[Anonymous No.7001952]

>>7001943
What are they supposed to be looking at?

[Anonymous No.7001959]

>>7001952
Maybe the bald guy but also "past" him is fine. He's tweaking so im trying to communicate a crazed feeling but it's not really hitting.

[Anonymous No.7001969]

[Anonymous No.7001987]

>>7001959
Neither of them look like their looking at each other. Bald dude looks like he's looking at a tile on the floor.
If you want the restrained guy to look more manic show him struggling in his restraints. Have his shoulders lifted up as if he were trying to pull his arm out but to no avail. Also his hair and clothes are too straight and neat and his eyes show no real emotion. When you're in a panic your faces scrunches up and shows wrinkles, which can be drawn by just adding more lines. Also have him sweating to convey the tweaking.

[Anonymous No.7001992]

>>7001987
Thank you! Your advice & the image are both very helpful. I'll try to implement what you've shared.

[Anonymous No.7001995]

>>7001969
Me on the left.

[Anonymous No.7002028]

>>7001314

yeah screen protector. if you can get a custom tempered glass even better. make sure it's thin enough for the tablet to detect the stylus.

[Anonymous No.7002036]

Following Lin Ran's advice and started with "how to see colors and paint it" by Arthur Stern and so far I really like it, the spot screen and the forbidden names where a-ha moments, things are more bluish than I thought.

[Anonymous No.7002043]

Can’t into painting or drapery. Fun tho
>>7001176
Could try to slowly iterate the sketch by erasing superfluous lines and redraw/refine/reinforce the lines you like, rather than doing lineart separately
>>7001177
Looks good! I think the dorsal fin needs the edges cleaned up. It’s a big focal point
>>7001194
Keep going, anon. Read Betty Edwards’s book and then do the Proko beg course or Brent Eviston’s beg course
>>7001273
Overall very nice, just has some slight perspective issues. Draw the seat of the couch/bench as a box. Does it properly go into perspective? The lines to the left and right of his shins don’t line up straight. Then draw a box using his knees and heels as the corners of the front plane of said box. Does that box fit the perspective of the scene?
>>7001341
Good job! I want to see faces like >>7001698
>>7001699
>>7001704
on bodies like >>7001341. I find your heads charming and unique. Perhaps a version using the more realistic head shape with your trademark facial features would be a good middle ground. I’m unironically a big fan and your art makes me smile
>>7001361
Based. Pencil or pen and printer paper are good for starting out. One reason is that such low-stakes materials will help you relax and draw more freely than if you were using an expensive tablet or oils. You don’t have to worry about your art being “worthy” of the medium you’re using, so there’s less pressure to be “good.” Drawing is already hard enough, and the first couple thousand drawings will suck, so using cheap trad materials makes getting lots of mileage easier
>>7001367
PYWIP
>>7001479
Boobs are shaded flatly, her chest fluff looks like spikes rather than fur. Nice mouth though
>>7001620
Gorgeous. Work on hands
>>7001805
Not bad, just need mileage
>>7001842
Might reference HR Giger
>>7001943
I imagine a crazed tweaked arching up out of the restraint, clawing
>>7001969
>/!\ TRADE OFFER/!\
>I receive: rendering
>You receive: bunny girl
>>7002036
Neat!

[Anonymous No.7002049]

>>7002043
how could i fix the shading and fur? btw this was my ref for it

[Anonymous No.7002051]

>>7002043
That's a good point, I have an art book that is a collab of both sorayama and giger. I tried a bit of his color palette combined with Caravaggio's

[Anonymous No.7002055]

[Anonymous No.7002073]

>>7002043
You want me to render smth? Why not tho i'm kinda bored rn.

[Anonymous No.7002094]

I'm practicing painting over my 3D scenes, I am so out of practice I'm going to post here till I get my ability back.

[Anonymous No.7002120]

>>7002094
Blog? I'm in love with your drawing

[Anonymous No.7002159]

[Anonymous No.7002161]

>>7002094
Here you go, thank you man I appreciate it. Keeps me going when someone from /ic/ likes my thing.

https://www.instagram.com/bolp.design/
https://www.artstation.com/armani_clarke

[Anonymous No.7002165]

[Anonymous No.7002167]

Reposting my sketchbook page here too for the day. Haven't been practicing much or drawing these las few days so I just decided to have some fun for now. Better than nothing I guess.

[Anonymous No.7002169]

>>7001918
No problemo m8
>>7001943
You can try to make the bald guy bigger. And turn his head away from the audiance by a smidge. If you want to give it a bit of luvelyness, angle that bitch. The tied up guy looks good tho
>>7001969
The goy on the left was prolly an aftertought but either thicken the back of the neck or move the neck back (try and play with angles and such
>>7002036
I will try thit color resource..... eventually. Thanx for mentioning
>>7001361
For practice, My fav is trad pen. No erasing. And the damn thing just glides over paper.
>>7001273
You look like you have nuff grasp of drawing to know your own faults, what you need to learn next ecc. and the better you get the harder it will be to get critiqes.
Shit looks erry noicĕ.
The only thing i can see is:
HIS right foot looks a bit out of place but only a lil bit. It works. Kind of looks like he is nervously tapping his right foot. So it might not be a mistake persay. You are breety good (methinks).

[Anonymous No.7002175]

>7001778

[Anonymous No.7002221]

[Anonymous No.7002234]

[Anonymous No.7002252]

>my shitty basedjak edit is 1000x more popular than all of my creation combined
I don't know what to feel.

[Anonymous No.7002258]

where my one layer bros at, it makes the line art feel so much better

[Anonymous No.7002286]

[Anonymous No.7002350]

WHERE IS PAWELL, ITS FEELING OVER

[Anonymous No.7002359]

>>7002252
That's just how it is anon, you'll get used to it sooner or later. The public are stupid fucking idiots unlike us refined creators

[Anonymous No.7002392]

random sketch, might try to do it properly another time if I am still feeling it

[Anonymous No.7002410]

>>7001150
>Of course you have potential, almost everyone does. But I never see you grinding fundamentals, it looks like you keep trying to draw what you want until you get discouraged because it turns out shit because you haven't built a foundation yet

[Anonymous No.7002428]

Why is picrel considered to be one of the greatest artworks?

I mean, it looks good and shit, but it's just a sketch of a woman with some shading. Any good artist in his age could have done this, any good artist today could do this, is that not true?

[Anonymous No.7002435]

>>7002175
wow sick! im honna be totally honest, i have no idea how you added that fog effect. Did you just use an opacity brush on top of the whole piece?

[Anonymous No.7002443]

>>7002428
its not one of the greatest artworks

[Anonymous No.7002482]

>>7002428
It's not considered to be one of the greatest artworks.

[Anonymous No.7002488]

>>7002443
>>7002482
it is a sketch that is often used however as an example of his greatness. Would you agree that it is not an outstanding drawing compared to other artists? Or is that, that the reason it is good is because the perspective and rendering is revolutionary in some way?

[Anonymous No.7002545]

>>7002428
>>7002443
>>7002482
>>7002488
its prebeg

[Anonymous No.7002547]

>>7002350
I just hope he's drawing something he likes instead of copying again moldy books that smell of coffin

[Anonymous No.7002548]

>>7002547
>old bad
The very peak of zoomer discourse.

[Anonymous No.7002550]

>>7002548
>crab encourages pawell to continue his endless grind of old fat men

good job anon

[Anonymous No.7002578]

Fucked everything up, maybe next time

[Anonymous No.7002583]

>>7002550
He's not "grinding" lmao he's just copying like an NPC
Vilppu outright said to not advance a stage until a student fully understands a concept...but this pawel intentionally ignores any posts that points out this.

[Anonymous No.7002598]

>>7002583
is copying shit bad?

[Anonymous No.7002608]

>>7002598
Not him, but no. However, when you mindless copy, it can hinder your growth.

[Anonymous No.7002615]

>>7002608
what's the best way to copy shit then?

[Anonymous No.7002622]

>>7001880
https://twitter.com/cyjalway/media

[Anonymous No.7002647]

[Anonymous No.7002648]

[Anonymous No.7002649]

>>7002647
Is that kobeni?
Blog now.

[Anonymous No.7002650]

>>7002548
>>7002615
>>7002598
Like, real world 101 dude, even the best thing ever goes bad if you do it mindlessly and in excessive amounts
I've been away from the board like eight months, and pawell guy got fucking WORSE. It's like someone that goes to driving school and keep getting worse with the lessons. I don't know what's wrong with him but I'm 200% sure that his solution to not sucking at drawing isn't written in a fucking 50 years old atelier shit book, and I'm not saying it because I think books are useless or other shit, I'm saying this just looking at the fact that he didn't fucking improve an inch after years of sweating on guides.
So maybe he should use another approach, like fucking actually drawing something for once

[Anonymous No.7002651]

>>7002615
Copy masters of whatever style you hope to achieve, that's what the old masters did. That being said, drawing from life and imagination are the real skillsets, the reference use is merely to practice your techniques. So the best way to copy shit is to just use it as a reference and your real output should be from life/imagination or at the very least an amalgamation of references and not a carbon copy.

[Anonymous No.7002652]

>>7002649
@20Shua on twitter
I haven't uploaded it yet

[Anonymous No.7002653]

>>7002649
you couldn't tell it was kobeni? I did something wrong then

[Anonymous No.7002656]

>>7002428
It's not considered one of the greatest artworks of all time, you may be misinterpreting its significance. I think if anyone posts that image as an example of DaVinci's ability its as an example of his grasp of human form. You can feel the life in the image even if it's not a 1:1 literal translation of his model. Pic related is a life drawing I made of my wife a while back and you can see how I took great lengths to make it look as much like her as possible but my amateur hand is obvious by comparison, there isn't nearly as much life in my drawing as in DaVincis, don't you agree? His is so effortless, with 1/10 of the lines he managed to capture the humanity.

[Anonymous No.7002663]

beg for the beg gods

[Anonymous No.7002683]

Returning beg here, this was my first drawing in a year
I think it could've turned out decent if I had constructed beforehand, is it possible to learn to draw well without sketching outlines?

[Anonymous No.7002684]

>>7002578
I don't think it's bad, except for the airbrush coloring

[Anonymous No.7002685]

>>7002656
Your wife is hot, good job Anon

[Anonymous No.7002691]

This is going to sound odd but how important is art style?
I've heard people say it's not important to find your style asap and you should focus on the basics more. Meanwhile I heard other people claim it's important to find your style quick.
On a similar not how does one get a style to begin with?

[Anonymous No.7002699]

>>7002663
It's shit but its a start, and the fact you drew a whole scene with background and stuff is bonus points. If I had to suggest you something to focus on now, try to making lines more solid
Keep going mate

[Anonymous No.7002701]

I need help
Im trying to do this girl sitting in this top down angle
but i have no idea about perspective or if this skeleton is even properly laid out

hepl.

[Anonymous No.7002702]

>>7001293
this, whenever i check this cesspool i just search /beg/, /asg/, video course or artbook, no need to waste time that could've been spent drawing on replying to begtard turbosperg baits

[Anonymous No.7002703]

>>7002656
>>7002685
Agreed, p. good wife

[Anonymous No.7002710]

okay today i might draw VELVET CROWE no relations to Russell Crowe; The Pope's Exorcist but i bet none of you guys will accompany me in doing so so i will always draw solo it's destined to be that way

[Anonymous No.7002711]

>>7002691
Your artstyle is literally a proxy of your own self. As you keep drawing it actualizes itself, to the point you can change it
It's important but also not, depends on a annoyingly long list of factors and contexts
If you're a beg, don't worry about it

[Anonymous No.7002713]

>>7002710
>no relations
>not drawing Russel and Velvet as a father and daughter duo
Practice your male anatomy

[Anonymous No.7002716]

>>7002691
Well, I'm barely slipping into int myself (I'm the guy that made the op pic) but from what I've been learning throughout the years is that trying to chase a certain artstyle, while not bad, will lead you nowhere. Artstyle is something that develops naturally over time as your skill develops further, and you take note of what you personally find more visually appealing.

My art style has been fluctuating wildly over the years as I've experimented with dozens of different methods until I finally reached one that suits me the most, that being heavy lineart and high contrast, so YOUR style, even though every person is different, should come out in a similar manner. Experiment with different methods, keep grinding fundies and, most importantly, don't stop drawing, and you should end up with a style that you're happy with naturally.

Also, not having a set style yet doesn't mean that your current drawings will be worse because of it.

[Anonymous No.7002717]

>>7002713
NO RELATIONS TO HORSERADISH EITHER.

[Anonymous No.7002720]

We're gonna have to draw Russell Crowe no relations to Velvet Crowe; The Lord of Chlamydia.

[Anonymous No.7002721]

>>7002716
>>7002711
Thanks anons. That answered my question.

[Anonymous No.7002730]

>>7002710
She is the edgiest character ever made.

[Anonymous No.7002731]

>>7002683
Yes but it takes a LOT of mileage

[Anonymous No.7002744]

>>7002710
This game was so fucking boring.

[Anonymous No.7002746]

I have no aspirations or ideas to draw. I don't know why I even want to draw. I don't have any art to show, and I've never been able to come up with any ideas. Do I actually want to be an artist or not?
I don't know if I just like the idea of doing it or actually doing it. I want to be an artist, but I can barely actually do any of the art. It's inseparable. It'd be like me trying to be a body builder without lifting weights.
If I wanted to actually do anything, then wouldn't I just be doing it? I should give up.
I have literally tried doing several artistic hobbies and gave up each of them immediately when I was a teenager.
>Gave up on Source Filmmaker
>Gave up on GameMaker
>Gave up on FireAlpaca
>Gave up on Photoshop
I didn't know how any of them worked or what to
do. I don't even know basic trig. Even when I look art guides, i literally cannot comprehend them or figure them out. I don't want to be stuck with no creativity or being unable to express myself. I'm 24 and I've made literally zero progress in trying to learn and the only other time before that was when I was like 12.

[Anonymous No.7002749]

Stop shitting up every thread you complete fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.7002751]

>>7002746
ok? why are you telling us

[Anonymous No.7002753]

>>7002749
Then give me advice.

[Anonymous No.7002765]

>>7002746
Ideas come and go on a whim. When you get one you grab it and draw it. During the time spans when you don't have one you practice basics over and over again.
>If I wanted to actually do anything, then wouldn't I just be doing it?
You don't feel like doing it because you suck and you're not improving. So you lose motivation which makes you question whether you should even continue.
>Even when I look art guides, i literally cannot comprehend them or figure them out
Because you're probably looking things up out of order. You're trying to learn a thing without understanding the thing you need in order to do the other thing. Get a book and do it page by page and you'll already see notable improvement. As you get better you'll also get more ideas.

[Anonymous No.7002768]

>>7002744
It gave us more Edge kino.

[Anonymous No.7002769]

>>7002746
Warmup:
- 50 straight lines of varying sizes
- 50 ovals of varying sizes (including getting the axes correct)
- 50 circles of varying sizes
- 20 ribbons
- 5 boxes of varying sizes in 2p perspective
- 5 boxes of varying sizes in 3p perspective
- 1 value scale

Then:
- 5x 1 minute figures
- 5x 2 minute figures
- 1x 5 minute figure

And finally:
Render a simple object (fruit, accessory, prop, equipment etc. Pick a new subject every day).
Then you can focus on studying other stuff, or draw simply for fun
Do this EVERY day for a month, and compare your skills before and after
>b-b-b-but anon, I-I c-c... *shits xers pants*
Shut up and do it, bitch. Thank me in a month.

[Anonymous No.7002770]

[Anonymous No.7002779]

>>7002770
Russel Crowe?

[Anonymous No.7002783]

>>7002769
NTA but I wanna try this too. Thanks. I already do the figures so that's good.

[Anonymous No.7002786]

>>7002779
wtf- THAT AIN'T RUSSELL CROWE???

[Anonymous No.7002788]

I did this study but I'm not satisfied at all with the portrait and the eyes. Any advice?

[Anonymous No.7002790]

>>7002779
That's Drake.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGWnIv_9P8Q

[Anonymous No.7002793]

>>7002788
that's russell crowe i think

[Anonymous No.7002800]

>>7002746
This is Howie schizo, DO NOT ENGAGE.
Btw if anyone wants to get familiar with him or just want some rage inducing content I recommend reading his thread on /adv/ >>>/adv/30470394

[Anonymous No.7002806]

please help.
how bad did i do.

[Anonymous No.7002809]

>>7002800
>Howie schizo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUTe2ndjRew

[Anonymous No.7002813]

>>7002809
That's what he does in his room all day instead of draw

[Anonymous No.7002819]

>>7002746
>I have no aspirations or ideas to draw
ok bye

[Anonymous No.7002826]

>>7002746
Fucking loser lmao

[Anonymous No.7002834]

>>7002809
>>7002769
>- 1 value scale
>Then:
>- 5x 1 minute figures
>- 5x 2 minute figures
>- 1x 5 minute figure
I literally don't know what this means.

[sage No.7002839]

>>7002834
FUCK OFF HOWIE YOU ARE NOT WELCOME HERE YOU FAGGOT

[Anonymous No.7002850]

>>7002839
I'm asking you to explain what it means, retard.

[Anonymous No.7002851]

>>7002850
I don't care
KYS

[Anonymous No.7002852]

>>7002765
I literally have done zero actual drawings. Only one line exercise that I didn't even finish.

[Anonymous No.7002864]

[Anonymous No.7002891]

IT'S A THIN LINE, BETWEEN DRAW AND HATE.
the leaaaanest drawing in the world can BE THE MEEEEEEEEEAAAAAANEST DRAWING IN THE WORLD if you draw it that way.

[Anonymous No.7002892]

>>7002806
Doesn’t look bad.

[Anonymous No.7002912]

>>7002891
serious question, why don't you try to learn to draw heads and faces

[Anonymous No.7002918]

>>7002912
SYMBOL DRAWING

[Anonymous No.7002921]

>>7002788
Post the reference

[Anonymous No.7002924]

>>7002912
Boring. I'd like to see him get better at this silly style.

[Anonymous No.7002957]

>>7002921

[Anonymous No.7002963]

>>7002924
no, he is a faggot.

[Anonymous No.7002966]

>>7002963
what does sexual orientation got to do with it

[Anonymous No.7002968]

>>7002963
>>7002966
WHAT'S LOVE
BUT A SECOND HAND EMOTION
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsfeg7k34c0

[Anonymous No.7002971]

>>7002957
Did you actively try to draw a man instead? Not just because the face is much more square and masculine, but the neck is thicker and angular and the right trapezius is massive. The hair being cut off below her ear is also a bit unfortunate.

[Anonymous No.7002974]

>>7002435
added more details to the grass and used an airbrush for the fog. think it's cool but i could do much better. gonna move on to something else now

[Anonymous No.7002981]

>>7002769
I have constant brain fog outside of very few times in which my adderall gives me minor clarity. My mind for the most part is meaningless gobbledygook bullshit and the only things I can think up are usually half-assed. Any good ideas for characters and stories that I might have are either impossible for me to draw or write about.

I'm on a shitton of adderall and stimulants and still nothing. Even when I felt my absolute best on them, I still couldn't bring myself to do anything. I feel like I'm a locked in person except I can still move around.
I've legitimately never been able to commit myself to any serious hobby and have gotten lazy over the years with my only actual one which is writing and the only reason I'm good at writing is because I wanted people to be able to understand what the fuck I was saying and I wanted to write good stories because I thought I'd never be able to make them in a visual medium, but that's it. I've never been able to commit to a serious routine, schedule, or anything. I just sit in my room online doing basically nothing.

[Anonymous No.7002988]

Drawing on a tablet for the first time, a lot less painful than I tought it would be.

[Anonymous No.7002996]

>>7002988
pls do these draw a box homework

[Anonymous No.7003001]

>>7002996
this place is awful holy shit

[Anonymous No.7003009]

>>7003001
>practicing line quality/accuracy is bad somehow
yeah, it sure is awful

[Anonymous No.7003018]

>>7003009
literally the first lines that anon put down on a tablet and your first thought is "hmm line bad go do trapabeg"

[Anonymous No.7003020]

>>7002971
ah fuck, i'll redraw that face

[Anonymous No.7003026]

>>7003018
Well, Breakfast Can Wait.

[Anonymous No.7003027]

>>7003018
yes they are bad, so he should practice that's how you get better
these specific exercises are good and standard practices, did you think I recommended the entire course?
get some reading comprehension you autistic crab

[Anonymous No.7003028]

>>7002996
Funnily enough I did drawabox a year or so ago on paper, but I appreciate the reminder to work on my lines.
>>7003001
It's honestly a lot better than the last time I was here, less missery over not being asian or some shit like that. Made me abandon the board.

[Anonymous No.7003036]

>>7003028
yeah I started out doing the lines on paper too, it was harder on digital
also reminder to turn on force proportions in your tablet settings

[Anonymous No.7003063]

I didn't draw today.

[Anonymous No.7003077]

>>7003063
same

[Anonymous No.7003129]

Is there too much going on here? I didn't like how empty it felt originally but I also don't like how busy it is now

[Anonymous No.7003135]

>>7003129
Nice!
I wish I had some constructive critique, but I really like this

[Anonymous No.7003152]

Hello beg, the xmas are over, i drew like once in last 7 days, gained about 2 kilos and finished diablo 2 (all 7 characters, normal only, scaling on players 8). Now as an homeage to the game i will produce 1 complete beg artwork for it. This is WIP, all 7 chars in a pub. And oh my god trying to combine all i have learned so far hurts my brain a lot.

>>7002788
typical combo of two beg issues: perspective and accuracy. you werent accurate enough and you lack perspective fundies to know how to properly foreshorten human face in 3/4 view to notice the error. draw less, use more sighting techniques like plumbing, leveling and proportions
>>7002749
dont blame the troll for blocking the bridge, blame the idiots who keep going there and feeding him
>>7002350
i am still alive relax, i just had holiday
>>7002167
looks nice
>>7002094
i kneel even though painting over photos is easy
>>7001842
i suggest you to do a study of metal something before attempting stuff like this. simply paint some golden / silver ancient armor and see how it works
>>7001778
you are symbol drawing. look at your ref. can you see a SINGLE strand of grass in it? no. it is all turbo chaotic blurry mess of green, dark green and orange. replicate what you see, not what you think there is. hint: set your brush to 50% opacity and dont be scared to layer the strokes. in the back it is literally about learning how to use smudge / blur / 95% transparency brushes. For fog add layer with gray and play with opacity slider, then add blur filter on top
>>7001757
you get better at X by repeatedly drawing X (from reference)
>>7001163
xp pen tablets dont have this problem
>>7002583
i dont know how am i supposed to prove i can FEEL THE FORM of ball and now the box, thats what the chapter 2,3 and 4 about. Like you see my contour lines (on my older studies)? How much more proof you need?
>>7003129
i am not a fan of square canvas. make it wide so eye only has to travel left to right. otherwise i kneel

[Anonymous No.7003162]

>>7001163
you could try their felt tip nibs

[Anonymous No.7003202]

/ultrabeg/ here. Did Drawabox up to lesson 2 and am now getting through the Hampton book. pic related are the muscles while I hid the gesture and construction layer. Am I going to make it? I guess I have the skill level of ONE when he made his first few webcomics... (I am insulting myself).

I am back to digital drawing too for now. My pen doesn't have the friction on the glass so my lines are messy but I guess I need to draw on it for 300 hours before I get used to it. I also break up my digital drawing with pencil sketchpad observational drawing because I find that the most fun.

[Anonymous No.7003219]

>>7001367
Print the empusa image and then cut into pieces at the appropriate joints and arrange the pieces into the desired pose and stick down with wax to create the reference to draw from.

[Anonymous No.7003223]

What's wrong with this one?

I'm going back to drawing bugs and boxes for a while.

[Anonymous No.7003226]

>>7002806
update. please critique.

[Anonymous No.7003233]

>>7003223
any "critique" you might receive from this board at this stage would only serve to drag you back into the bucket
keep drawing figures and move on to color theory/rendering
au revoir and good luck

[Anonymous No.7003244]

>>7003152
your chars look very sausagy, use a smaller sized brush.

>>7003202
>Am I going to make it?
if you stick to it yes eventually

>>7003223
I don't like the face, most of your accent lines (the cheekbones for example) and the knees look weird for me,
I do like the ankles and the ass+hip

>>7003233
you will find bad advice everywhere, including on this post.

[Anonymous No.7003252]

For my new years resolution I wanted to learn to draw with an artstyle that I actually like. I wanted something similar or as close to pic rel. Does anyone have any guides / tips or especially step by step tutorials on making pictures like this?

[Anonymous No.7003286]

>>7003252
break the problem in smaller parts, if I were you I would try to copy just the one of those boxy packs. Secondly I would try to find a speedpaint or process video of javier marin muñoz

use google:
javier marín muñoz site:youtube.com
javier marín muñoz filetype:pdf

I found his undergrad thesis it may interest you sadly in spanish only but you can get something from it, just be careful because well its an undergrad thesis.

https://idus.us.es/bitstream/handle/11441/106974/WAOTFG_319.pdf?sequence=3&isAllowed=y

good luck

[Anonymous No.7003309]

[Anonymous No.7003311]

>>7003309
I really like this :)

[Anonymous No.7003313]

>>7003311
thanks! I took some advice from the last time i was on this thread for this one, for the lighting ^^

[Anonymous No.7003340]

>>7003129

[Anonymous No.7003343]

>>7003226
neck too large, different eye and forearm szes, the leg is overlaping her crotch but for that angle it shouldnt, potato arm, right hand looks like its grabing a plank...needs some rommies

[Anonymous No.7003362]

>>7003223
Right leg - Knee should not be that noticeable from that position, also leg fold would probably not be that visible

Left eye - Slightly higher than it should be and the shape doesn't fully correspond to the left one.

Other than that, really really good!

[Anonymous No.7003365]

>>7003362
Small edit here - You might've tried to imply the gastrocnemius there and not the knee, still too bumpy, specially considering that her foot is pointing inwards

[Anonymous No.7003380]

>>7003233
Nah, there's always a room for improvement and I know that I still need to grind fundamentals.
>>7003244
Are you saying there's too much of accent lines or that they are too dark? The knee is fucked up though.
>>7003362
>>7003365
No that's just a fucked up knee that should not be there, thanks.

[Anonymous No.7003382]

>>7003343
Thanks bro.

[Anonymous No.7003391]

>>7003286
ah jeez. this is gonna be hard

[Anonymous No.7003491]

>>7003380
>Are you saying there's too much of accent lines or that they are too dark?
between too much accents and poor choices/placement, I get what you want to do, but it doesn't look appealing to me, the cheekbone lines make her look malnourished (something a muscle mommy must never look like unless it's a day before competition). Also by hinting both the delts and tries it looks a little bit cramped and without rhythm I would only use accent lines for the delts and just an bumpy outline for the tricep.

I like your stuff you are more competent than me :)

[Anonymous No.7003502]

>>7003152
Do more original stuff, I want to see more
Also, it will help with retaining knowledge, specially the figures

[Anonymous No.7003505]

Think I'm finally starting to understand how not to lose gesture during construction.The hands and arms are still fucked but please point out any other critique.

[Anonymous No.7003515]

>>7003505
bruh this is so ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...... beg... you need to study anatomy before gesture, gesture is the last thing tbqhwy.

[Anonymous No.7003525]

>>7003515
Anatomy before gesture, I always heard it the other way around but now that you pointed out the leg yeah its pretty bad thanks anon

[Anonymous No.7003526]

>>7003515
Gesture is the first step to figure drawing, but you are correct in that he skipped the fundamental anatomy training and is trying to jump straight into figure drawing.

>>7003505
Son. You need to start by learning to draw the head. Then learning to draw the torso. Then learning to draw the arm. Then learning to draw the hand. Then learning to draw the leg. Then learning to draw the feet. Only then can you start to learn to draw a figure.

[Anonymous No.7003531]

Genshin Gala

[Anonymous No.7003533]

>>7003526
>>7003505

And if you want to jump straight into figure drawing then work on your gesture. You are overworking it and treating it as a finished drawing. You don't need to draw the hands and feet in a gesture, you simply need to show the motion of the figure. As for the figure itself it looks twisted, as if her torso is facing her ass.

[Anonymous No.7003535]

>>7003505
>>7003515
does everyone just pretend they didnt see you using ai that one time or

[Anonymous No.7003550]

>>7003533
I've only just started with Hampton and yeah I'm a rush I'm just gonna focus on gesture for now
>>7003535
???

[Anonymous No.7003595]

How the FUCK do literal ooga booga cavemen have better understanding of gesture and value than me?

[Anonymous No.7003602]

>>7003595
they had to observe things to ensure their survival

[Anonymous No.7003620]

>>7003226

[Anonymous No.7003621]

>>7003535
Is this the drawing that looks ai generated? Its fucked pinky isn't it. I'm beg and my shit already looks ai generated its fucking over for me

[Anonymous No.7003622]

>>7003340
cute dragon uwu

[Anonymous No.7003630]

>>7003622
Idk anything about composition but it's feels flat and static
heres my attempt but im no better than you

[Anonymous No.7003631]

>>7003630
lol im not trying to help, i just wanted to draw blushies on the dragon xD, if i really wanted to help it would take much longer

[Anonymous No.7003633]

>>7003631
oops sorry meant to post on original artist

[Anonymous No.7003645]

Trying some painting. How are my value transitions?

[Anonymous No.7003650]

im not gay but this guy is genuinely beautiful

[Anonymous No.7003651]

>>7003620
Thanks!

[Anonymous No.7003684]

[Anonymous No.7003700]

This is probably my first time doing cel shading in a while.

Chose colors based on sight, applied shadow layer on top of flat, and used mostly pen for shading and some airbrush/blur for details like bounce light. It took me a while to make the shadows not too dark, but I'm still not happy with the colors. Although I tried to mute the background with light blue to make the yellow stand out better, it was very hard to work with. Couldn't tweak it much without making it too dark or bright. Wanted to keep the backgrounds simple.

[Anonymous No.7003720]

>>7003650
>draw womans head on a mans body
>call it a man
dishonest filmmaking

[Anonymous No.7003726]

>>7003720
so you havent seen a woman before huh

[Anonymous No.7003738]

>>7001177
good shit

[Anonymous No.7003742]

>>7001177
Nice

[Anonymous No.7003746]

Trying to do something completely out of my comfort zone, does the initial sketch and value blocking look good? The framing was very hard to figure out. I'm going to spend the night getting the characters to look correct and in perspective.

[Anonymous No.7003751]

>>7003720
have you never seen men with feminine facial features? im sure OP drew them on purpose

[Anonymous No.7003752]

[Anonymous No.7003763]

>>7003720
Stop watching tranny porn

[Anonymous No.7003767]

@7002746
>how do I poo into loo?

[Anonymous No.7003773]

I think the hair is slowing me down, there's a lot of it

[Anonymous No.7003774]

How can I learn to draw if I have no talent?

[Anonymous No.7003776]

>>7003773
beautiful lines anon

curious cat

[Anonymous No.7003777]

>>7002094
Sketches from today

[Anonymous No.7003788]

Alright I need to practice gesture but it's hard to really comprehend.
I did these and tried my best *not* to focus on structure or anatomy, and just to focus on the gesture.
I know they're not the best and they're still a pretty stiff, but does it look like I'm on the right path with them at least?

[Anonymous No.7003798]

>>7003788
Those are ok, you still focus too much on contour. Look for flow and rythm of the figure forms and try to represent them in your lines.
Glenn Vilppu got amazing videos about it.

[Anonymous No.7003811]

>>7003798
>you still focus too much on contour
Yeah... It's really, really hard not to for me. Flow and rhythm feels so abstract, so my head is always trying to ground it with forms I'm familiar with.
I appreciate the feedback. Is there any videos in particular you'd recommend? There's boatloads of Glenn Vilpu vids on youtube.

[Anonymous No.7003815]

>>7003811
Not that anon, but for gesture I'd recommend Brent Eviston's the art and science of figure drawing - gesture course. It's on /ic/ torrent

[Anonymous No.7003821]

>>7003811
>Is there any videos in particular you'd recommend?
Oh, anon. I've watched them years ago. If i remember it was drawing manual, but i was watching on new masters academy site.
Idk if this is on youtube.

[Anonymous No.7003829]

>>7003821
Ahh. Yeah, it's on NMA locked behind a 50 dollar monthly subscription paywall.
>>7003815
Is Brent Eviston /beg/ friendly?

[Anonymous No.7003831]

>>7003829
>Is Brent Eviston /beg/ friendly?
Very

[Anonymous No.7003847]

>>7003831
Sounds good, I'll give his videos a watch then. Thanks for the reccy, anon

[Anonymous No.7003856]

Good?

[Anonymous No.7003863]

>people actually 'study' books like this

[Anonymous No.7003866]

>>7003863
This book helped me a ton to understand the basics proportions of the head. It may not be the best but it has its uses.

[Anonymous No.7003867]

never forget this one thing
and that is that
Reilly is king.

[Anonymous No.7003872]

>>7003595
Caveman art is peak kino
I will do master studies of it
Stone age fundamentals

[Anonymous No.7003874]

[Anonymous No.7003906]

>>7003856
It’s not good, but there’s something I like about it. Shapes of the legs are really appealing. I think the simplified derpy face is cute too. Proportionately her arms are way, way off, though,

[Anonymous No.7003914]

>>7003856
i know what you are trying to do with the legs but you lack ze anatomy, to stylize it in that way it looks bad as it is now

[Anonymous No.7003919]

This might not be appropriate here but how do you determine to "throw in the towel" so to speak? For example If you're chris-chan level or reached some level of mid/beg/ and already at your maximum potential due to intellect or some other deficiency spending another 20 years isn't going to do much good for you.

[Anonymous No.7003921]

>>7003872
>study from the old masters
kek

[Anonymous No.7003923]

>>7003919
If you’re having fun, why would you ever stop?

[Anonymous No.7003924]

>>7003829
Its worth paying that monthly sub and just downloading everything you want before cancelling. $50 gets you a trove of invaluable information for the person learning to draw. That one month of NMA elevated my ass big time.

[Anonymous No.7003927]

>>7003923
My idea of "fun" also involves being good and receiving external validation (yes you don't need to go in on how bad of a mindset that is). If I am going to be stagnating early and never reach the level of the artists that first inspired me to start I may as well stop early to salvage the time.

[Anonymous No.7003928]

>>7003919
You throw in the towel if you're a bitch with no passion. Even Chris kept drawing stuff he liked despite being inconmensurably autistic, there's also a guy in /i/ who's been drawing the same copy-pasted bimbo cartoon for 10 years with no improvement and people like what he does, even giving him fanart.

If you have passion you win, even if you're a talentless permabeg, if you don't, you're even worse than that because you'll never make something that makes you happy.

[Anonymous No.7003931]

>>7003927
Sorry bro, it takes decades to get good, if you're just in it for quick fame just give up, if you actually wanna get good spend the time, it's impossible to become a master in a month

[Anonymous No.7003937]

>>7003931
>decades
I figured. I'm already not young and don't want to sacrifice my life on this. I started off thinking I was a genius with great potential but as usual reality slaps me in the face. Oh well.

[Anonymous No.7003940]

>>7003874
Your proportions are good, but don't lose the placement of the bottom of the nose. Remember it lies at the halfway point between the eyes and bottom of the chin (generally). But also if you're looking UP at a model all the lines should be moved up in perspective.

[Anonymous No.7003945]

>>7002974
was clicking through the replies simply for this, thank you for delivering the misty goodness anon

[Anonymous No.7003946]

>>7003752
>>7003684
>>7003776
blog? i want to impregnate your girls

[Anonymous No.7003954]

>>7003937
Good, fuck outta here

[Anonymous No.7003956]

>>7003937
Don't believe that anon. This progression is from three successive attempts with only a few practice drawings in-between. It's less about breadth of time practicing and more about having an "aha" or "click" moment that pushes you to the next level. The trick was to challenge myself. I got really good at rendering/copying from picture reference to build up a drawing skillset but had only ever used graphite pencils. So I decided to try painting something. Top left is my first oil painting, which I did from life to add extra challenge, did some drawing inbetween, then did another oil painting from life which was a little cleaner. Stopped drawing altogether for about two years to focus on painting miniatures exclusively because I became obsessed with it. Just this past week I decided to draw something but using pastels for the first time, and I made that piece on the bottom. I truly attribute most of my progress to that one month I subbed to New Masters Academy which unlocked my brain a bit. In that past 4 years I've maybe drawn/painted about 10 pieces? And maybe 30 miniatures? The point being it seems like a lot of time spent practicing but its really something I do once in a while, the trick was the click, once you see it you have it. I suggest really looking at techniques on HOW to draw instead of just trying to draw an anime girl or some shit like half of you guys do. This video should do something for you, once you can draw a head you can draw anything using the same principles.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=drawing+faces+academy+steve+huston

Sorry for the blog post, I'm here for critiques and to encourage you anons to stop bruteforcing shit and just slow down and learn for a bit.

[Anonymous No.7003958]

>>7003919
>throwing the towel
I'm a guy that's probably older than 90% of the bard. I'm completely failing at having any impact online, and half of the industry jobs I managed to snatch ended up in nothing or scams. Due to disappointment probably, dunno, I started regressing in skill some month ago, to the point I just can't fucking draw anything anymore.
I gave myself until the end of march to make a miracle happen, if nothing happens I'm fucking out. But simply and exclusively because I can't afford to play the starving artist while I'm planning to have kids, dude.
You're probably around 20, what the fuck of a towel you're throwing? You have at least 10 more years to bash your head against whatever kind of gmi you're trying to pull off, do you want to give up just to avoid the anxiety of maybe failing?
Go back to fucking drawing, stop thinking about this kind of shit. The more you torture your dick with this crap the less chances you have to achieve your fucking goal

[Anonymous No.7003966]

>>7003958
>around 20
>at least 10 more years
I'm actually 35, and deciding on whether this is really the best use of my time vs just continuing my IT career and starting a family. I'm not just talking about giving up because I'm not good enough or whatever, I'm talking about which sacrifices I am willing to make and the better direction to take my life. I tried keeping everything alive, marriage, career, dreams but am realising with my capacity I can only choose 2 of the 3.

[Anonymous No.7003968]

>>7003966
if youre 35 you might actually be right on being genius with great potential, however at age 35 its already gone to waste. at 25+ its over. you cant learn new things nearly as easily anymore.

[Anonymous No.7003972]

>>7003968
Oh my fucking god shut the fuck up with the neuroplasticity shit again and just FUCKING DRAW DUDE

[Anonymous No.7003973]

>>7003966
Well then I'm just saying bullshit, like pretty much always. And the fact that we're basically in the same situation just makes even more depressed

[Anonymous No.7003974]

>>7003973
Yo can you post your work please I might recognize you

[Anonymous No.7003977]

>>7003972
cant fight reality
im turning 23 and i feel like i wasted a big chunk of my potential. at least now i finally take drawing seriously. so 2, probably a few more(due to good genetics), years to go.

[Anonymous No.7003978]

>>7003974
If you say that you know who I am already

[Anonymous No.7003983]

>>7003977
how can you say it's true if you aren't even 25 haha

[Anonymous No.7003984]

>>7003978
No, legitimately I have no dea who you are

[Anonymous No.7003988]

>>7003919
I just don't have the self-esteem for art. Sometimes I draw something that gets a lot of praise but only when I'm having fun and don't care how well I'm doing. Everything else I produce is just /beg/ and /int/ level

[Anonymous No.7003989]

i willn’t draw today neither

[Anonymous No.7003991]

I might be retarded but the cut off part of the loomis head is a huge issue for me
Like at what angle relative to the browline is it meant to be to make a normal looking face rather than a human rat or brick jaw

[Anonymous No.7003992]

I feel like most of the latest replies here have nothing to do with art and it's just depressed idiots that are sad due to outside factors and blame part of it on "muh art not good"

Can we get back to helping begs so they don't end up like your sorry asses please

[Anonymous No.7003994]

Doing a book that is meant to be done traditionally digitally has its own problems, especially color matching.

[Anonymous No.7003996]

>>7003984
Whatever then

[Anonymous No.7003997]

>>7003992
Fair enough, sorry for blogging

[Anonymous No.7004000]

>>7003991
The browline comes from the cut-off. Everything is self-consistent from there.

[Anonymous No.7004001]

I swear is it that I have a square canvas again... I have the stalest compositions lol

[Anonymous No.7004003]

>>7003966
Yes, if you're 35 and are trying to break into art for the purpose of starting a family then it's time to reassess. Focus on your IT to make you money and make that sacrifice of putting your dream aside. Having children is all about sacrifice, taking that step is just one of many you'll have to make. That being said, don't quit pursuing your artistic goals, but being pragmatic about your situation should take emphasis.

>>7003977
I am this anon >>7003956 >>7002656 and I didn't really start trying to get good at drawing until I was 30, I'm closer to 40 now. It's never too late, that being said I make my living in graphic design not traditional art; I treat my traditional work strictly as a hobby. I strongly advise any anons here who seek to make a living in art to focus less on their technical abilities and focus more on marketing themselves. Plenty of shit artists with huge followings because marketing is everything. That being said, if you're posting in this thread for critiques are you really that concerned with making it? You obviously still have a lot to learn, keep practicing and don't delude yourself into making money with art any time soon. It's not defeatist, its realistic, it's never too late but you should never expect to break through or rely on success on anything you pursue. Do it because you enjoy it.

>>7003992
Making art is very frustrating, especially in the modern age where you are constantly inundated with showcases of talented artists with insane prolific output. The problem is a lot of anons here don't have proper guidance or foundation and want to skip all the steps and wonder why they aren't being paid to draw anime girl on white background #260000023402002500.

>>7004001
This composition would definitely benefit from 16:9 ratio with the model being off-center left and a wider landscape. Looks good though.

[Anonymous No.7004005]

>>7003992
lol. Since when have you been about helping begs? You assholes eagerly discouraged me.

[Anonymous No.7004008]

>>7004001
>>7004003

Something along these lines, perhaps a staff or rifle to fill the space on the right.

[Anonymous No.7004012]

>>7004001
>>7004003
>>7004008
Thanks guys I think that looks a lot better!

[Anonymous No.7004016]

>>7004012
This board needs IDs, both me lol.

[Anonymous No.7004018]

holy fuck I can't figure out how to copy this. Nomatter how I trace over it, the midline never makes sense because the nose is far too right, mouth is far too left, it just doesn't make sense to my brain that has been tainted by construction

[Anonymous No.7004019]

>>7004016
Go fuck yourself, Nikki Haley, you fucking republiCUNT.

[Anonymous No.7004020]

did a quick value comp today for an upcoming piece

[Anonymous No.7004022]

>>7004020
That's so thinly veiled lmao. You weirdos need to try way harder.

[Anonymous No.7004026]

>>7004018
I mean, they just lined up the left of the nose with the left of the eye there, and the right of the nose lines up with the middle of the eye. There is no sense to it otherwise.

[Anonymous No.7004038]

>>7004003
That's some of the biggest wisdom I've read recently, wish that I wasn't so deeply fucked up into this art delirium that I just can't accept it

[Anonymous No.7004040]

>>7004038
It comes with age. Post your work and tell me your goal in art.

[Anonymous No.7004044]

I'm 19. Is it too late? I have a somewhat decent base of knowlege already, but I feel stuck whenever I see good stuff being posted on the web. Feels like I'm NGMI. But.. can I make it? It's the only thing in this world I enjoy doing, desu.

[Anonymous No.7004056]

>>7004040
>it comes with age
I'm this guy>>7003958, I'm older than you
I'm in too deep because dreaming of drawing shit is literally what made me survive being abused by family as a kid and all the other shit I had to eat in my miserable fucking existence
I promised myself a deadline for managing to turn this shit in an income, and I'm sure I'll actually throw when the times come, I'm sure that no magic is gonna happen to turn me into a master, but I'm also completely sure that I'm going to regret it and become even more bitter than I am already. Or probably just kill myself at some point
Ok blog over for real this time.
Not that matters at this point since its autosaging

[Anonymous No.7004057]

>>7004044
I started at 19. I'm still here.

[Anonymous No.7004059]

>>7004044
>>7004057
If you're not Krenz by 9, its fucking game over man
GAME OVER

[Anonymous No.7004089]

>>7004044
Buddy, your life hasn't even started yet. You have more resources than anyone else here older than you ever had at their fingertips to get good quick. Van Gogh didn't start painting until he was 27.

>>7004056
If you're older than me you're probably already 40+ in which case you should already have an established career or some field where you are deriving income; which sounds like it isn't art from what you're telling me. An hour ago you gave this advice to a fellow anon:

"Do you want to give up just to avoid the anxiety of maybe failing?
Go back to fucking drawing, stop thinking about this kind of shit. The more you torture your dick with this crap the less chances you have to achieve your fucking goal."

I suggest you stop torturing your dick and being so down on yourself that you would consider suicide over failure in achieving your art goals. Can you post what you consider to be your best work so we can at least see where you're at? If you're seeking encouragement its best to start there, you're obviously in a rut and I don't really see a problem in "blogging" about it if it'll help you reevaluate.

[Anonymous No.7004092]

>>7004026
Have you tried by understanding the human skull and comparing it with your tranime heads to see how they differ instead of relying on construction?
Mangamaterials has some good notes about it

[Anonymous No.7004100]

>drew this by looking at a model
feels bad knowing i’ll never be able to draw anything original

>>7001757
>drew this from imagination

[Anonymous No.7004110]

>>7004089
>you should already have an established career
No, I don't have any career. I spent my twenties between junkies and hobos, and I was notorious in my area so when I finally cleaned up the only jobs I could find were immigrant tier shit since everyone and their mom knew i was a complete no good fucktard, and where I could I worked myself to the bone in order to save some money, pay myself a photoshop class and some equipment and try this art shit, thing that happened ten years later, when I lost the only decent job I ever found because I got involved in a fight with some gangster piece of shit kid and the boss started suspecting I was up to shit again.
Anyway the point here is just that you're right, and I need to stop being a retard, it's just hard to stop being a retard when you're an actual one

[Anonymous No.7004115]

>>7004110
As long as you're self aware that your life requires adjustment you have a chance to change things around. Just take a step back and weigh your options, I guarantee suicide shouldn't even be on the table once you think things through. Have you thought about going the AI engineer route? Learning how to talk to the machine and creating LORAs/models and training AI sets? I think the graphic design industry is due for a shakeup, and that designers/printers won't be replaced but that AI will definitely be incorporated as a tool and skillset and anyone learning how to interact with it now is getting a huge opportunity and jumpstart for that change. Go check out stable diffusion which you can get for free onto your desktop (so long as you have a competent graphics card to help generate images) and tinker with it for a bit. I know AIslop is a meme but it really is an actual skillset that you can market yourself with in the near future as a supplement to your graphic design skillset.

[Anonymous No.7004123]

Sketching, not sure how to keep going with the drawing, I get the feeling that I need to look into brushes.

[Anonymous No.7004147]

I wish I was gay

[Anonymous No.7004214]

[Anonymous No.7004272]

>>7004019
Are you a fellow SC Anon?

[Anonymous No.7004289]

>>7004147

[Anonymous No.7004291]

>>7004147
I do too. You'd get access to a whole community and gays are never single. You could get laid all the time easy.
Plus you'd get more respect in "wierd" art circles

[Anonymous No.7004295]

>>7004291
On the other hand, you're a faggot.

[Anonymous No.7004296]

>>7004147
I wish I wasn't born

[Anonymous No.7004311]

Is /ic/ just an extension of /r9k/? Or is that just /beg/? Every thread seems to just be coomers and sadsacks who don't take criticism.

[Anonymous No.7004383]

>>7004003
Anon, I want to tell you about my situation.
24 years old, I left university and I am currently studying illustration self-taught, it has been 8 months since I ventured into this.
I am not looking to have a partner, family or responsibilities other than my own person.
Although I have made a lot of progress lately, I still have a long way to go, I hope to start publishing my pieces in a few months.

[Anonymous No.7004406]

>>7004022
nah im trying hard enough :)

[Anonymous No.7004409]

I made this in five minutes. Do you like it?

[Anonymous No.7004411]

>>7004409
No, but you should spend another hour on it. Has potential to be cute

[Anonymous No.7004412]

>>7004409
Spend five hours and I might.

[Anonymous No.7004437]

>>7003946
i'm glad, i do not post anything now tho. I will setup new blog and everything soon.
Right now i trying to just get better a bit.
If you want to be in touch i'm @RaxavNSFW on twitter.

[Anonymous No.7004472]

>>7004468
>>7004468
>>7004468
>>7004468
>>7004468

[Anonymous No.7004528]

>>7004311
/be/g is a containment thread

[Anonymous No.7004578]

>>7004437
>RaxavNSFW
i googled it and looked it up on twitter and got nothing :(((

[Anonymous No.7004587]

>>7004578
yeah, my twitter is banned or smth. Try this: https://twitter.com/RaxavNSFW

[Anonymous No.7004610]

>>7004005
We help only with technical stuff, give criticism and occassionally encourage, but you're on the site with absolute anonymity where if anyone is slightly annoyed at you, you'll find that ranting about your mental problems will only get you shit on, specially if it's just "uuugh am not good enough" for the 100th time.

If you want people to suck your dick because you're sorry for yourself go to instagram or tiktok

[Anonymous No.7004879]

>>7004409
Yeah, I think you have potential.
While you lack experience/technical skill you make up for it with appeal. It looks like you enjoy drawing, which is the key.

[Anonymous No.7005987]

i made this inspird rn but curent event