Enough with the fearmongering

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Enough with the fearmongering Anonymous Sat Dec 30 19:21:42 2023 No.6997806 [Reply] [Original]

Anybody else feel inspired by AI. Much like ChatGPT serves as a more direct replacement for google search, AI generation serves as a replacement for google images.Now, instead of having to search through tens or hundreds of images to find an ideal reference, AI can instantaneously generate a pose from a description of tags, or the average of the pose your trying to reference. Say you want to render something, with img2img you can plug in a bare-bones sketch and instantaneously get a near finished product to reference. If you want an idea of anything, such as how to render a drawing, poses, or even the group consensus of the way a character or a your OC is supposed to look, you can use AI.

How can anyone look at this and not be thankful. Just as digital art democratized drawing for those unable to try out digital. AI is democratizing art for those who can't dedicate thousands of hours watch tutorials on digital art, and instead serves as a shortcut for proficiency.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 19:22:50 2023 No.6997808 >>6997806 Nah, if you didn't spend time making your image, why should I spend time looking at it?

Anonymous Sat Dec 30 19:35:17 2023 No.6997822

>>6997806
These developments never raise the ceiling, only the floor. As things become more “democratized” the average level of expected effort lowers, and the influx of unskilled /beg/gars lowers the average quality of what you’ll see online. This doesn’t improve art by giving more unique views a voice, it drowns out art by flooding the stage with noise.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 19:36:29 2023 No.6997823 >>6997806 total ai nigger death

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 19:36:58 2023 No.6997825 >>6997806 My only issue with it is that generally it just sucks, but occasionally there are some good results. It's not reliable and there is no control.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 19:39:18 2023 No.6997828 File: 240 KB, 1063x723, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6997806 anyone not embracing a.i. is a ngmi and will actually never make it

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 19:53:04 2023 No.6997838 File: 375 KB, 598x440, 0 85qxOGJkCNCpsGBT.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6997828 How does that work? ngmi because why? what art is valued?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 20:02:40 2023 No.6997849 File: 1.74 MB, 1194x795, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6997838 ever seen cars 3?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 20:04:37 2023 No.6997851 >>6997849 No.

Anonymous Sat Dec 30 20:04:59 2023 No.6997852

>>6997822
This
If you really think about it, digital art was a mistake that only benefitted media companies and not artists themselves. Digital art made art accessible to everyone, which in turn made it easier for AI image generation to be invented because there's tons of data for it to scrape. Combine that with the fucked up social media algos and every AI improvement will only make things worse and increasingly difficult for new artists to get seen. None of this would've happened if traditional art were still the preferred medium.

Anonymous Sat Dec 30 21:38:07 2023 No.6997926

>>6997806
im not thankful. i avoid it because i dont want it to influence me. when i come up with a design i want that to come from my imagination and i want it to belong to me 100%. feels like shit to actually use anything from it knowing i didnt create it. also it doesnt help that people will now take everything you do under a microscope and every drawing or design you make can be accused of being done with fucking ai. its annoying that recording the drawing is the only way to prove you did it yourself.

Anonymous Sat Dec 30 21:43:15 2023 No.6997928

>>6997806
I don't fear AI, you know why? Because I know how its tech works (LLM)
Most Aifags don't know jack shit about it and they base their predictions on Terminator and other outdated sci-fi movies.
I'm sorry kids but conscious AI like in the movies is a pipe dream, all you have is a complex code pretending to be alive like a human, it's just a simulation that will never surpass humans, we need a real AI for that.

Anonymous Sat Dec 30 21:51:50 2023 No.6997941

>>6997806
This trash has been peddled for four fucking years now and we still don't have useful procedural generation of worthless shit like grass, clouds, dirt, etc for 2D.

All it's doing is flood servers with shit so that we'll soon be charged to image search to "pay for the increased traffic".

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 22:08:56 2023 No.6997959 >>6997806 I will say though, I have gotten some inspiration and ideas by inputting in a prompt and getting back a visual picture of it. Of course I'm not going to say it's mine but I can use it as a starting point to sketch out something

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 22:27:10 2023 No.6997975 >>6997852 >Digital art made art accessible to everyone This is completely false. For $5 you could start drawing with pencils and paper

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 22:27:56 2023 No.6997976 >>6997822 /thread

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 22:28:22 2023 No.6997979 >>6997849 Engineering =/= art

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 22:29:13 2023 No.6997981 >>6997806 Too much retarded text. That picture looks like shit, go poo in the loo.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 22:37:10 2023 No.6997987 >>6997928 Diffusion models are not LLMs though, and image synthesis is not limited to just diffusion models either.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 22:42:56 2023 No.6997997 >>6997806 Fuck off tripfag

Anonymous Sat Dec 30 22:48:28 2023 No.6998008

>>6997806
>Instead of ignoring it I will instead train myself to create imitations of AI art instead.
Talk about setting yourself up for failure. AI is just a prisoners dilemma at scale, the winning move is to ignore it and hope enough people do the same.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 22:54:50 2023 No.6998024 >>6998008 >Hope enough people do the same Phahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Sorry anon but that's some strong coping there

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 22:57:29 2023 No.6998030 >>6997806 >ChatGPT serves as a more direct replacement for google search lmao are all aijeets terminally retarded?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 23:06:06 2023 No.6998041 >>6998024 It's worked for me so far and we're how many years into this shit now?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 23:08:03 2023 No.6998044 >>6997806 Fuck off, shill.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 23:27:55 2023 No.6998059 >>6997808 Theres more than enough people who will. Doesnt matter of you specifically dont.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 23:30:10 2023 No.6998062 >>6997806 Anybody else feel like OPs a faggot? Anybody else just draw for the fun of it and not care what other faggots do with ai? Anybody else like posting anybody else threads so we can circle jerk over OP like anybody's else?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 23:40:55 2023 No.6998068 >>6997941 this is the only reason I'd use ai, to make stuff like grass, buildings, rocks, and even then I'd still draw over it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 00:19:30 2023 No.6998115 >>6997806 >AI generation serves as a replacement for google images Why the fuck would I ever want that? Search engines are becoming more polluted with this garbage that I can't find what I'm looking for. >captcha: HS0YVT

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 00:42:24 2023 No.6998138 File: 331 KB, 590x1096, IMG_20231230_163934.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >you've made this thread already >spamming

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 03:03:06 2023 No.6998266 >>6998059 >Theres more than enough people who will. Doesnt matter of you specifically dont. There's more than enough people who won't, so they specifically matter to me and are my preferred audience.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 16:30:35 2023 No.6998701 File: 100 KB, 520x572, Screenshot_20231231-132056.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6997806 Imagine fearing AItards >Lol >Lmao even

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 16:33:28 2023 No.6998706 one thing i like about this whole ai thing is that it immediately lets me detect tastelet retards aifaggots should be exiled to an ai-slop only existence since they love it so much

Anonymous Sun Dec 31 17:06:34 2023 No.6998726

I dunno, I’m sure it has its uses. Like >>6998068 and >>6997941 are talking about. Basically you’d be using an AI the same way that mangaka use assistants. I don’t think that would be unreasonable. I’m not good enough to really feel like it’s something I should personally investigate yet, because I don’t want to cripple my abilities by using a crutch too early. But one day, maybe.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 18:31:06 2023 No.6998809 >>6997822 Rarely have i ever said /thread, but this is basically it, put as succinctly as possible

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 23:26:42 2023 No.6999134 >>6998115 To hide reality away from the masses

Anonymous Mon Jan 1 00:02:51 2024 No.6999173

>>6997806
>Say you want to render something, with img2img you can plug in a bare-bones sketch and instantaneously get a near finished product to reference.
Been doing this and it's a lot of fun. I usually grab a reference image, define controlnet rigs for the characters on their own layers, the start sketching and the AI puts out suggestions in real time. We live in the future.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 00:04:20 2024 No.6999177 >>6997808 If an amazing artist can make a fantastic image by hand in 3 seconds does that invalidate the work? Do you inquire on the effort taken before looking at any art?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 00:11:02 2024 No.6999185 >>6997825 https://youtu.be/1d_jns4W1cM?si=W0Hi69HxqkStC5oA It's possible now. You can real time draw and get suggestions based on your prompt in specific areas of your canvas. In skilled hands it's super powerful.

Anonymous Mon Jan 1 00:13:00 2024 No.6999187

will eventually be good for artists and hybrid artists/writers/animators/game developers that need to create thousands of assets for large projects.
bad for artists that make profit out of doing individual pieces.
it won't affect true hobbyists at all.

sketch to image capabilities need a lot of improvement for it to be useful currently though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 00:14:55 2024 No.6999188 >>6997975 What if I want color? Paint?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 00:31:25 2024 No.6999202 >>6997806 an AI artist stops being an artist once they lose access to their computer. a learned artist can draw with a rock against another rock or draw in the dirt

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 00:59:49 2024 No.6999233 >>6999177 They spent decades getting good enough to do that. That's time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 01:13:34 2024 No.6999243 >>6999233 How do you know they're not just naturally gifted for something you think is difficult? Do you ask every artist how long they've been drawing?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 01:16:54 2024 No.6999248 >>6999202 Can a digital artist work with color in the same way they do on a tablet if given color pencils? Or do you think they're dependent on the brushes, filters, and AI assisted tools that have been a part of Photoshop for over a decade?

Anonymous Mon Jan 1 01:22:28 2024 No.6999253

>>6999243
Then it's a different matter, I might admire both the drawing and the brain. General idea is that "ai artists" put no effort in, and when they do put effort in, they are retards like shad. There are exceptions that prove the rule out there perhaps, haven't seen it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 01:25:51 2024 No.6999255 >>6999248 Some can. It's a massive headstart. Drawing is drawing. The first attempt might not be up to their standard, but it might still look good.

Anonymous Mon Jan 1 01:30:55 2024 No.6999256

>>6999243
Every top artist spent a ton of time practicing to get there. There are no exceptions. They may have talent but they'd remain very amateur if they never put the work in. I get the feeling you're trying to imply plagiarizing using AI is justified because there's some gifted elite that were born that way so its only fair to use AI? Nah. You're leeching off of their hard work.
>>6999248
I mean yeah? They understand color theory and it applies the same with traditional mediums. Learning to mix paint is the only small hurdle. Colored pencils are a bad example for you to use because its one of the things they'd instantly have a handle on.
>AI assisted tools that have been a part of Photoshop for over a decade
Lol again, clearly you're tripfag or somebody like him trying to imply that digital artists are hypocrites for dunking on AI. There's nothing nearly like generative AI bullshit in PS except for smart fill which is VERY primitive and doesn't do anything for you except lay very basic colored blobs. It doesn't do much and as for the rest of the digital crutches, they don't amount to much. Any genuinely good digital painter is going to do great traditional work with minimal learning curve. Somebody riding AI cock is going to horribly fail because they flat out don't understand fundamentals.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 01:41:32 2024 No.6999269 >>6999253 Linked the video with AI sketch to image generation that can run real time. Do you think that's enough effort?

Anonymous Mon Jan 1 01:42:10 2024 No.6999271
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>>6997806
I would love an AI to help me make comics,like Tony Stark and Jarvis.

I would feed it my artwork and new stuff as required, and the AI would visualize the scenes that I would add the dialogue to. It's database would have my imagery to draw from, so its output would still be an artistic work of mine. I have been doing that in Photoshop years ago, like this picture, an assemblage of diverse parts into the Final Draft. My goal is to tell stories, and an intelligent Photoshop chatbot to help me do so. And if she wants to entertain me with dirty pictures after hours,then that's on her.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 01:43:38 2024 No.6999272 >>6999256 >Top artist Not talking about "top artists". Just artists that you think are good and automatically assume they spent decades. It's all opinion based so whatever you feel is fine.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 01:45:16 2024 No.6999275 >>6999271 Possible currently if you have a decent GPU to train a Lora on your own art. Totally offline and running local means nobody but you has access to that training data and resulting model.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 01:46:00 2024 No.6999278 >>6999269 >Do you think that's enough effort? Effort for what? The video is worth more than the resulting picture. Only because of the drawing part.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 01:48:11 2024 No.6999280 >>6999278 *Thought you might have linked a different vid with more drawing. The vid you linked is lmao

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 01:50:25 2024 No.6999284 >>6999272 >automatically assume they spent decades. Time, doesn't have to be decades. Nobody is good off the bat.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 02:02:00 2024 No.6999293 >>6999284 The other anon said decades. How long is long enough?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 03:15:11 2024 No.6999345 Every few months i visit this board and i come to laugh. But now its just sad. Art is done, its over. Normies, big tech, even anime japan is against you. No one has your back.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 03:18:21 2024 No.6999348 >>6997806 Who is the original artist tho?

Anonymous Mon Jan 1 03:25:06 2024 No.6999350

>>6999271
why do alot of the pro AI comments sounds like complete retards needing that have givin up on doing anything, also actual coomer brain rot
>"And if she wants to entertain me with dirty pictures after hours,then that's on her."
>inb4 its tripfag/discordfags

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 03:29:06 2024 No.6999355 >>6999271 also anon is that your work or some other anon you decided to use

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 03:29:54 2024 No.6999356 >>6999293 >How long is long enough? how long is a piece of string? :/

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 03:35:18 2024 No.6999364 I wonder if that furry fucker honestly made this thread because I remember that nigga heavily wanted to use 3d models for everything and was also really pushing for an "AI" general like tripfag

Anonymous Mon Jan 1 12:14:05 2024 No.6999700

>>6999350
they're all bored, retarded nihilists and letzter menschen who go through life chasing the next unhealthy, instant, artificial dopamine shot. whatever dreams they might have are coopted by the mediocrity of ai.

Source: I know several of them IRL.

Anonymous Mon Jan 1 12:17:55 2024 No.6999703
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>>6999355
My work. A pencil grind that I added black pen to. And this picture. Is mine as well.

Back in the late 90s when I encountered Photoshop 5.5,I figured out its capabilities through making experiments of all sorts. Then I began to focus on what to do with this incredible tool in aiding my primary aim:the telling of stories. I realized that my job was crippling my hands,and when I drew,I could do well in short instances, or parts of drawings would be good but the rest of it made its existence pointless. But with a scanner and Photoshop, I could do all sorts of useful things to increase productivity and output. Take the seats behind the characters for instance:I see the mistake in proportions when I was assembling these panels.but I didn't have to draw it twice,but draw it carefully once with the intent of it being converted into a library of stock imagery that will be recycled in future comics. Background elements, important props,character poses,even chunks of characters when things demand pre-assembled parts. I tried color at first,trying to make all characters directly in Photoshop, playing with Alien Skin filters, trying to simulate fur,attempting a faux 3d look,some successes, but the characters too inconsistent to go beyond experimenting.
Then I decided on black and white,and the symphony of textures I could produce. So I made a 16 page story to teach myself how to craft stuff in this manner,then started the graphic novel that was supposed to be in 20 page issues Chapters, and got as far as finishing 40 pages.

So why shouldn't I dream of an AI assistant to help craft comics with me? It's using my vision as its guide. It's getting the story made that compels me,and any tool that works to that end is welcome.

Anonymous Mon Jan 1 12:40:31 2024 No.6999721

>>6997806
AI is only ever useful as workflow tools, like lasso selection, automatic flatting or neural upscaling.

Delegating your creative choices to a computer vomit of the art of other people unwilling participating is bad and should feel bad.

If you didn't put in time to make it nobody should waste time looking at it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 13:54:54 2024 No.6999774 >>6999721 Nobody knows how much time it took you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 14:13:33 2024 No.6999785 >>6999774 it's just a given though, that real art took "some" time and AI images did not.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 14:17:23 2024 No.6999791 >>6997806 shill threrad

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 15:03:17 2024 No.6999843 why are the faigs going turbo mode now did AI take another L again since this happens when their thing gets attacked. >also janny do your actual job with the spam

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 15:09:30 2024 No.6999852 >>6999356

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 18:57:03 2024 No.7000162 >>6999703

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 09:11:58 2024 No.7000862 ofc >>6999644 was deleted. can't have people besmirch holy AI. Janny is compromised

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 15:14:49 2024 No.7001054 >>6999785 They both took "some" time though, it's entirely possible the AI image took longer. But I think the point is that nobody cares about how long it took.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 15:17:48 2024 No.7001058 >>7001054 an AI image can take a 100 hours setting up nodes and shit, and a drawing take 15 seconds. the 15 second image is worth my time to look at. the AI one is not, because they didn't make it, the computer did 99% of the work. simple as.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 15:19:34 2024 No.7001062 >>7000862 Meanwhile this and >>6999671 threads stay up lmao

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 15:37:16 2024 No.7001084 >>7001062 ikr, janny is a transartist

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 20:02:15 2024 No.7001497 you know it's dire when /g/ has more sensible input about art than /ic/ you should all kill yourselves pronto

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 20:18:42 2024 No.7001516

>>7001497
/g/ nor you understand what art is in the first place. Its really funny watching you guys lecture us on something you don't understand.
>you should all kill yourselves pronto
All the mean artists rejecting your bullshit stolen art has touched a nerve, huh?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 20:21:27 2024 No.7001522 >>7001516 >/g/ nor you understand what art is in the first place and neither does /ic/ evidently if you retards think even for a second that art can be machine made in this capacity and still be called "art" kill yourself

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 20:35:22 2024 No.7001543 >>7001522 What? I agree with you then? I'm confused. /ic/ is overwhelmingly anti ai, we just have a problem with a few vocal autists and a janny that apparently loves ai and leaves threads like these up.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 20:42:05 2024 No.7001546 >>7001543 suffice to say ai is NOT being developed to help the common man, even if it looks like it is

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 21:16:13 2024 No.7001577 >>7001058 That's your opinion, which is fine.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 02:21:46 2024 No.7001869 >>7001577 >That's your opinion man

Anonymous Wed Jan 3 04:18:52 2024 No.7001981
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>>6997806
ChatGPT isn't a "substitute for Google search", you bug-munching zogbot nigger.

ChatGPT is a last resort now that Google has been dumbed-down and finding any basic information has become 10 times harder. So you tell ChatGPT to do a statistical sweep of the available data and come up with an error-prone, censored conclusion about whatever topic you were trying to understand.

Normal Google > Your cum breath > ChatGPT > Nu-Google

Anonymous Wed Jan 3 11:17:47 2024 No.7002299

>>6997926
>its annoying that recording the drawing is the only way to prove you did it yourself
Someone will make a model that generates an image and along with it generates a video of the image being created, based on the thousands of timelapsed drawing videos online.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 11:29:15 2024 No.7002311 >>7002299 Yes, that would probably be a long way off. Recordings of ai using the cursor and software itself to draw might come before generated video of such an act.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 11:33:54 2024 No.7002316 AHHHH GUYS THERES THIS THING THAT JUST CAME OUT CALLED PHOTOGRAPHY, YOU DONT EVEN NEED TO PAINT THE PERSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MY LIFE IS RUINED NOOOOOOOO ARTISTS WILL ALL BE SHOT BY PHOTOGRAPHERS HELLPPPP

Anonymous Wed Jan 3 12:26:43 2024 No.7002346
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>>6997822
>the average level of expected effort lowers

I actually expect people to stop giving a fuck about human /beg/s. The AI already mogs a ton of people and there's so much of it honest attempts by beginners now look like outsider art made by serial rapists.

Anonymous Wed Jan 3 12:33:00 2024 No.7002353

>>6997806
Using AI crap as reference or source of inspiration is fine. That isn't the problem.
It's idiots generating crap, claiming it as their own and flooding every space to the point nobody wants to look at anything.
99% of AI shitters don't spend any effort and expect to be praised for it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 12:38:03 2024 No.7002358 >>7001981 >Normal Google It's called DuckDuckGo. Or Brave. Or Yandex. Or literally any other search engine than fucking Google. Google isn't the only game in town, or the best, and hasn't been for years.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 12:39:34 2024 No.7002360 >>7002358 Nice cope, they're as inefficient and fuzzy. They're only a little less strict with copyright infringement results.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 18:45:44 2024 No.7002709 >>6999243 >naturally gifted Regardless normies that find out that you used ai to make it 3 second will lose interest because they will just go generate their own image and immediately forget about the image you showed them.

Anonymous Wed Jan 3 23:35:22 2024 No.7003134 [DELETED]

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>>6997806
Do any of the anti-AI guys have real arguments against these companies?

https://www.theverge.com/2023/11/4/23946353/generative-ai-copyright-training-data-openai-microsoft-google-meta-stabilityai

I remember when Google was trying to steal all the books in the world like 15 years ago and I think they were gay to do that(since they wanted to get rich and it was just really shady in general), but I see literally nothing wrong with AI and how it works and these arguments seem unassailable both in terms of logic and in regards to the law.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 23:37:45 2024 No.7003137 >>7001981 >ChatGPT isn't a "substitute for Google search", you bug-munching zogbot nigger. It can be though. If you're looking for INFORMATION instead of clickbait shit like you seem to think all google is good for.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 23:44:15 2024 No.7003153 >>6999185 this is cool

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 23:46:20 2024 No.7003155 >>6999202 >a learned artist can draw with a rock against another rock or draw in the dirt An AI artist can do this too. Your idea of artist is purely mindless egoism. You aren't special.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 23:51:37 2024 No.7003159 >>7003137 "Onions meat can be a replacement for red meat if you want to get some real food instead of feces that they started to serve us." This is how you sound.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 23:52:30 2024 No.7003160 >food analogy that makes literally no sense

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 23:54:44 2024 No.7003163 >no lateral thinking Ask ChatGPT to interpret basic text to you, anon. That's all you phoneniggers are good for.

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 00:12:55 2024 No.7003192

>>7003134
>but I see literally nothing wrong with AI
ofc, you're not an artist, just a consoomer as proven with your god-awful pic.
>hese arguments seem unassailable both in terms of logic and in regards to the law.
just begging for new laws to be tailor-made for this.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 00:28:26 2024 No.7003212 File: 336 KB, 1200x888, 1684754688409431.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7003192 Reply like a man and not like a little bitch.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 00:29:13 2024 No.7003213 good morning sirs do we summon?

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 00:48:06 2024 No.7003241

>>6997806

I could see how AI could be used as a reference, but wouldnt that defeat the point of creating your own art?

I guess AI could be useful for people learning how to draw? I know a lot of people use the excuse that they have no imagination, or no ideas to draw, and thus, they don't draw.

AI art could be a simple shortcut, but with all shortcuts, there is a catch.

The artist would lack their own style, their own sense of creativity, and the ability to come up with their own ideas to draw, and this can lead to less drawing.

the short answer:
AI can lead to some very unimaginative artists.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 01:08:24 2024 No.7003261 >>7003212 >reply like a man and not like a little bitch >anime posts saying that NTA but do you also want to be associated to people as if there speaking to a woman anon, or even more so a teenage girl

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 01:19:09 2024 No.7003267 >>7003155 >egoism NTA but art usually about expressing your self, if it's not about yourself than what are your motives in doing it then, cause there are degrees to which people will only believe your just trying to sell them something your advertising

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>>7003241
That would depend on what kind of art you're trying to make. Implying that using references somehow goes against most types of art is retarded too.

Also AI artists can develop their own styles, even across different art styles you can often feel them by looking at the content and presentation. And sorry for getting tribal here but there is far more imagination in AI art threads than on /ic/, stop acting like you're blind. Cry all you want about quality but the ideas are blatant and styles are varied.

>>7003261
>continues to act like a little bitch, afraid of cartoons

>>7003267
It doesn't matter what it's usually about. There are all sorts of reasons to make art and you can express yourself through it.
>money
The vast majority of AI artists don't give a single fuck about money and embrace the idea of completely free art. 90% of this drama is because artists want all the money. and are trying to sell you courses or a patreon subscription.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 01:40:55 2024 No.7003315 >>7003212 go back to /v/ to shill your ugly generated elf slop

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 01:44:23 2024 No.7003320 >>7003315 Why are you so immature? It's just sad.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 01:46:25 2024 No.7003322 >>7003212 you really don't deserve any serious replies given your history of trolling on /v/

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 01:54:06 2024 No.7003334

>>7003279
>develop own styles
all their prompts include in the stlye of and they can not even produce said works without it
your basically giving me filters at that point.
I could ask you stop sucking your own dick or AIs for a sec but for as far I could tell this prob mikufag since you already posted the ff tactics shit before

I could ask whether you even played the game, though you likey just saw the art someone else posted and wanted copy it

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 02:00:30 2024 No.7003346
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>>7003322
What history of trolling? I always post seriously.

>>7003334
You mix styles to create new styles. Prompting a name doesn't give you that artists style, it pushes the model's core style in the direction of that artist but every model has it's own style, and every artist has it's own weights too. And you can adjust those weights.
>[Albert Lynch], Franz Xaver Winterhalter, Sophie Anderson, (Jeremy Mann),
This is a very old prompt but it's an example of a blend of styles that created something new.

This is why people should, if they haven't, tell you to use AI before babbling about it. It's infinitely more complicated than you think it is.
>I could ask you stop sucking your own dick or AIs for a sec but for as far I could tell this prob mikufag since you already posted the ff tactics shit before
Who the hell is mikufag?

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 02:02:19 2024 No.7003353
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>jannies randomly deleted a post without giving me a warning
lol I guess he didn't have an argument

>>6997806
Do any of the anti-AI guys have real arguments against these companies?

https://www.theverge.com/2023/11/4/23946353/generative-ai-copyright-training-data-openai-microsoft-google-meta-stabilityai

I remember when Google was trying to steal all the books in the world like 15 years ago and I think they were gay to do that(since they wanted to get rich and it was just really shady in general), but I see literally nothing wrong with AI and how it works and these arguments seem unassailable both in terms of logic and in regards to the law.

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 02:06:56 2024 No.7003357

>>6997806
>Anybody else feel inspired by AI
AI art is very inspiring to me, a lot of it looks simply awesome and more stylish and energetic than 95% of human art I've seen
If I wanted to make money by creating art it would be discouraging, but since I don't, AI art just makes me want to draw.
I get a similar effect from looking at Frazetta illustrations

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 02:07:02 2024 No.7003358 >pls take me seriously >pls reply >pls argue me >lmao no argumememes I mean, i could just go type my arguments into chatgpt since that's all he does.

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 02:08:21 2024 No.7003359

>>7003346
>lurk more
>or stay on /g/
the machine does it not you. that doesn't even qualify as a "new" style even it looks similar to a bunch of other shit I've seen. And saying your the artist is retarded with that if you just show someone you prompted it

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 02:11:05 2024 No.7003364 >>7000862

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 02:14:09 2024 No.7003367
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>>7003359
> that doesn't even qualify as a "new" style even it looks similar to a bunch of other shit I've seen
All similar styles are the same style, you heard it here first. Anime? One style. Classical? One style.
And you call yourself an artist.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 02:16:53 2024 No.7003371 >>7003367 Your gens are literally ripping off Akihiko Yoshida's work, Elf-tard. Not only are you a hack, you're also a thief. How fucking low must one sink to be like you? Holy lmaos.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 02:18:17 2024 No.7003373 File: 855 KB, 1344x1664, 1702511495563643.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7003371 Yes they are, there's even a "like yoshida fanart" tag on danbooru, lots of people do it and none of us are thieves lol. No one owns an art style you shiczo.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 02:20:14 2024 No.7003374 I wonder why aifags like to go all leddit "debate me on le free marketplace of ideas" mode

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 02:22:22 2024 No.7003377 >>7003373 >no one owns an art style What a surprise, the hack and thief doesn't know how the law works. >massively replicating an artist style and works that are protected >uuuuuuhm its not stealing because i say so Nigger, just please shut the fuck up.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 02:23:37 2024 No.7003381 >7003367 >anime--->mass market >classical, mostly commissioned however subject matter is depicted differently also personal at times also painting the people you dislike in hell

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 02:27:50 2024 No.7003385 >>7003373 >>7003367 >>7003353 >>7003346 are any of these even yours or did you just get them from somewhere else you useless fagget

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 02:29:22 2024 No.7003387

>>7003374
because they have too much to prove and too much to gain

It's like pedophiles posting the graph with the lolis as a deus-ex-own against any arguments against fucking children, because they can validate their own mental illness and show others how they won the argument therefore more people should think like them.

I really hope social media starts getting monetized soon so this fags have to at least pay out of their pockets to spam their mental illness around.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 02:35:35 2024 No.7003394 File: 116 KB, 768x1152, 1673582703212143.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7003377 >What a surprise, the hack and thief doesn't know how the law works. lol yes anon, no one owns a style, copyrights don't cover this in any capacity.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 02:36:17 2024 No.7003395 whys there's some nigga named @elf_anon that link these there that much of a fagget honestly

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 02:37:22 2024 No.7003398 >>7003395 He wants to be viewed as a real artist

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 02:38:35 2024 No.7003401 >>7003395 >been living rent free in this dude's head sad

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 02:38:59 2024 No.7003402
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>>7003367
>>7003373
the guy who does these rules btw

>>7003377
https://www.thelegalartist.com/blog/you-cant-copyright-style/

>>7003385
>are any of these even yours
wait.... is this b8 or will we no longer get b& from /ic/ for claiming ownership. nice.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 02:39:32 2024 No.7003404 >>7003398 wouldn't be surprised its him since they sound the fuckin same honestly. maybe next time too he won't use anon in his fuckin twitter name

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 02:40:13 2024 No.7003405 File: 70 KB, 613x680, 1702358151045449.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 7003394 >more bait this guy

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 02:40:36 2024 No.7003406 imagine being so much of a faggot you noreply

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 02:42:58 2024 No.7003407

>>7003404
It's quite funny to see. I also find it more hilarious that they don't realize the more people pick up AI the less notoriety they'll get themselves and they'll just be lost in the flow of digital AI slop. Meanwhile genuine artists will be fine recognition wise, even better if they do traditional art

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 02:44:34 2024 No.7003409
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>>7003402
I had a feeling he was baiting me into enraging a janny which I have done before, so I didn't reply to him lmao.
>YOU DIDNT MAKE IT YOUR PENCIL DID
Love that one.

I just wanted to talk about major corporations having good arguments about art but the janny did warn me about that link so fair enough.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 02:44:35 2024 No.7003410 it honestly gets boring always having shitty bad faith arguments non-stop can't you aitardos do something fun for once?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 02:47:05 2024 No.7003415 >>7003410 what do you mean

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 02:48:36 2024 No.7003416 >>7003407 just barely looking at that nigga twitter you could see how much of a fuckin shill he is nonstop. If he is also on here as well doing it I think more so he's might be an actual fuckin bot account or hired telemarketer

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 02:48:42 2024 No.7003417 >>7003415 i dunno maybe draw some funny stuff and run it through the slop machine? no one cares to argue about this shit anymore you milked it dry

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 02:48:58 2024 No.7003419 >>7003409 >major corporations having good arguments But they don't. They're only ever in it for themselves till the law fucks them over for it. Tech companies are the shadiest fuckers with data handling. Greentext their arguments

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 02:53:01 2024 No.7003421 >>7003402 >>7003409 raiding/discordfags ewww

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 02:53:20 2024 No.7003423
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>>7003417
I mean I came here in hopes of discussing something serious and all I got were angry apes replying to me so I think people still want to argue.
Does /ic/ allow AI threads like that yet?

>>7003419
Did you read them? I wanted real arguments against what they said in order to get perspective. The link is here >>/ic/thread/6997806#p7003134

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 02:54:27 2024 No.7003425 >>7003423 I'm not reading them till you greentext the main points here. And /ic/ doesn't take kind to AI because we're an art drawing board with the main goal of learning to draw and paint not use software that replaces that notion

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 02:55:47 2024 No.7003426 File: 102 KB, 720x473, Screenshot_2024-01-03-18-51-00-54_40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] this nigga

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 02:55:51 2024 No.7003427
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>>6998701
It's funny how the concept of training models has warped the definition of stealing in so many peoples minds. If I see a piece of trash on the street, is it stealing to put it in my car? Everyone's a moron in that pic DESU

>>7003409
>>7003419
>>7003423
Yeah, all corpos are in it for the money. Which is why if it becomes illegal to train a model without explicit permission from the artist, the only ones with the liquid to do so won't be the average Joe. Wouldn't it be better if everyone could use it rather than just globohomo?
All the reasonings I skimmed are total corpo bullshit lol

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 02:55:55 2024 No.7003428 File: 601 KB, 1088x1304, 1688221528846630.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7003425 Why are you so lazy? And it says artwork and critique up top.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 02:57:09 2024 No.7003429 >>7003427 They don't seem to want it to become illegal. Those companies anyway.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 02:58:57 2024 No.7003432 >>7003428 Critique only counts for your own work, sorry bud

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 02:59:51 2024 No.7003433 >>7003432 Where's your art?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 03:02:08 2024 No.7003434 >>7003423 >i came here 2 years ago to spam and spam and spam and spam Every active anon on this board knows who you are Brother, you have serious issues AI won't help you

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 03:02:38 2024 No.7003435 >>7003428 you may be able to fool /ic/ retards, but real ones know those probably arent your gens. real ones know what the filename should look like.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 03:03:16 2024 No.7003436 >>7003433 He doesn't have any. Just gay ai shit. Either an agenda or mental illness. Either or it's annoying, just ignore him

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 03:03:47 2024 No.7003437 eating canned chicken rn do not reply

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 03:04:50 2024 No.7003440 File: 1.22 MB, 765x2365, 1688455072638644.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Reminder that the tranny mods here aren't artists and they want us to accept this shit here

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 03:04:57 2024 No.7003441 >>7003435 AIgens don't belong on /ic/ either way especially if this is the type of niggas you f"AI"gs want to roll with

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 03:05:48 2024 No.7003443 >>7003440 hmmmm there is almost a comparison between ai and transgenderism to be made

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 03:07:01 2024 No.7003445 >>7003443 they want you to really know about them transitioning in any way possible

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 03:08:51 2024 No.7003447 >>7003440 all women are disabled compared to men. we don't need their voices to be heard any more than we do now

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 03:10:28 2024 No.7003448 File: 800 KB, 784x984, 1676100135196826.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7003434 >>7003435 >>7003436 You guys have serious issues. Please get well.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 03:12:56 2024 No.7003450 >>7003448 Anyone that repeatedly comes to a place that doesn't accept something in a vain attempt to try to get them to when there's multiple other places they can discuss said thing is the one with issues really.

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 03:13:13 2024 No.7003451
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>>7003359
>the machine does it not you.
who tells the machine how to go about it?
>you're just commissioning art at that point
computer =/= human

>>7003374
if anon had an easier time taking on new information that challenges their current worldview, these threads would be a lot better.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 03:14:58 2024 No.7003453 >>7003451 >who tells the machine how to go about it? Couldn't you set up a bot to rng prompt things? The human aspect isn't needed at all after the bots are set up correctly

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 03:17:23 2024 No.7003457 >>6999269

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 03:20:31 2024 No.7003461 >>7003451 >world view https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doZE4Yqog5I

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 03:20:35 2024 No.7003462
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>>7003450
There's nothing wrong with trying to level with fellow humans as we share a common interest. Too bad you're trying to act like a sub-human.

>>7003453
You can, but it's still you doing that. You're setting it up with variables to prompt, there are many factors that go into that.
No one said making AI art was exceptionally difficult. It absolutely does make it infinitely easier to pump out art. But it's still a person using the tool to do that.
You can automate other things too, video and 3D for instance.

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 03:23:53 2024 No.7003465

>>7003462
No it's a bot doing it, not you. You're not needed for AI generation at all. Social media companies can create their own bots that specifically prompt popular trending franchises and auto post the generations. It's really hard to call it anyone's creation in that case other than the whatever AI produced it. >B-But my decisions
Honestly it's no different from commissioning someone, which in turn is still not art you've created

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 03:23:58 2024 No.7003466 >7003462 >fellow humans as we share a common interest are hardly call your robotic replies "human" let alone listen to some curry nigga who's prob an ESL

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 03:24:50 2024 No.7003467
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>>7003453
>>7003465
>Couldn't you set up a bot to rng prompt things?
sure. a version of that without bots would be using wildcards i suppose. but everything involved around that would constitute a human aspect. once you know whats going on with imggen, it's trivial to differentiate individuals skills and styles. and again
>commissioning
computer =/= human

>>7003462
yeah, it doesn't have to be exceptionally difficult and at the same time the ceiling is so fucking high. nice image btw, id guess this model has some expline mixed in, or is just that and some loras, but im pretty inexperienced with anime models.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 03:26:08 2024 No.7003469 janny honestly too need to get off their ass because its obv these are just drama whoreing fuckers

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 03:26:24 2024 No.7003470 >>6997806 sorry anon, but people increasingly don't like AItards >https://old.reddit.com/r/ghostbusters/comments/18xgcko/new_rule_ai_art_banned_from_rghostbusters/

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 03:26:34 2024 No.7003471
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>>7003465
>YOU DIDNT MAKE IT YOUR PENCIL DID
kek

>>7003467
DarkSushi something, I was trying to get that Shiwasu no Okina style down since the lora is really shitty and that model worked pretty well for it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 03:28:18 2024 No.7003473 >its all one anon vendettafagging the whole board because he got btfo by begs and banned multiple times for spamming ai images

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 03:29:19 2024 No.7003474 File: 623 KB, 516x704, least virgin AIbugman.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7003462 >There's nothing wrong with trying to level with fellow humans as we share a common interest. you're a brain damaged consoomer. there's no common interest

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 03:30:02 2024 No.7003476
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>>7003471
>DarkSushi
!! forgot about that one, thanks. ive been working on a custom mix for a few days, gunna add that one and see what happens. fucking model blocks, what do they mean? in which blocks are which concepts located? we will never know

>>7003473
kinda feels like all the anons bemoaning ai have the vendetta

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 03:31:12 2024 No.7003477
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>>7003427
This picture is cool btw.

>>7003474
I like art. Thinking about it I don't think you actually do, that's the problem.

>>7003476
I was mixing some models the other day and yeah who knows lol. I found a darkness slider in the supermerge extension, that was cool. Made me wonder why most models are so bright.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 03:31:16 2024 No.7003478 File: 144 KB, 962x830, cat AI.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7003476 >kinda feels like all the anons bemoaning ai have the vendetta go back to Twitter bugman

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 03:31:24 2024 No.7003479 why are AIniggas honestly this evangelical about it and that desperate to go you should like it too like you see pedos and trannies do at times >I should be allowed gaslight others >you can't stop me

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 03:32:28 2024 No.7003481

>>7003477
>I like art. Thinking about it I don't think you actually do, that's the problem.
you like to consume computer generated content, and you're not making any kind of art. even if you enjoyed art and artists, you'd still not belong here. hence, you should fuck off from /ic/

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 03:32:32 2024 No.7003482 >>7003451 See, it's always this "I am simply enlightening your plebeian libtard mind with my Free Speech (you're not allowed to disagree with me btw)" with all the reddit r/libertarian faggots

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 03:32:54 2024 No.7003483 >>7003479 Yeah, aren't you epically trolled for the 1656516135412th time in a month yet? they obviously have some sort of issue with the board itself or some specific anons

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 03:33:29 2024 No.7003486 >>7003451 >who tells the machine how to go about it? if I tell an artist how to "go about it", I'm not the one making the art

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 03:36:23 2024 No.7003492

>>7003479
If this god-machine is as amazing as it is, why can't they just let artists flock to it naturally? But no, they HAVE to proselytize or Emad Musk won't allow them on the slop-utopia
>It's not enough that you know about it, you have to use it and like it as well
>If you don't use it you will die pls pls pls pls use it and worship it
>I'm doing this because I care about you I promise

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 03:37:06 2024 No.7003495
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>>7003479
>>7003482
>>7003492
i actually dont care anymore if you use it or not. i just come to /ic/ because i presume (you) know more about art than the average /g/ tard. i wont claim to know more about art history and trad skills than you, so don't try and claim you know more about how imggen works lol

>>7003477
ty anon
>darkness slider in the supermerge extension
nice ill check it out

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 03:39:26 2024 No.7003499 File: 794 KB, 3000x3600, lowres, low quality, worst quality,--_00104_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7003477 heres another from that batch. started with >UNDER WATCHFUL EYES

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 03:39:30 2024 No.7003500 >>7003495 >just come to /ic/ because i presume (you) know more about art than the average /g/ tard. Made me chuckle. Anyone arguing you can't use AI to make art doesn't know a thing about art.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 03:43:52 2024 No.7003507 >troll cease >beg thread gets bumped huh look at that

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 03:45:03 2024 No.7003508 File: 43 KB, 600x450, skinner.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >7003495 comes to /ic/ doesn't care about learning just wants to spam or "debate" >why I'm i hated

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 03:45:51 2024 No.7003509 File: 3.06 MB, 1280x1920, 1674996554532562.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7003499 Thanks I saved them all. >>7003507 kek

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 03:46:07 2024 No.7003510
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>>7003499
Humans that appreciate art do so because they know a human crafted it and made all the decisions to bring his creation to reality and express his vision. Even stuff that's just kind of boring like those hyper-realistic ballpoint pen portraits are appreciated because at least it's a display of skill and you can respect that.
I see that image and I simply don't care, at all. Good day sir.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 03:46:28 2024 No.7003511 File: 47 KB, 404x384, tumblr_975ea950440f95bb88752e92348f56fa_e39812be_500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] this thread is so fucking retarded kill yourselves

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 03:46:59 2024 No.7003512 >>6997806 I'd rather find an actual photo or original drawing I enjoy to reference, or take my own reference shot, or even pose my own 3D model. A generated image is objectively worse than any of these other options.

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 03:49:30 2024 No.7003517
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>>7003500
right? like didn't the art community already go through "what is art and what does it mean to be an artist"?

>>7003509
<3

>>7003508
im implying i want to learn more about art, from you, but if you dont want to discuss art on /ic/, thats your choice to make after choosing to go out of your way to noreply you pussyfaggot lmao

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 03:50:28 2024 No.7003519 >>7003517 How are you learning about art by spamming image generation slop? You're just here to troll and cause drama. Seriously go to /g/

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 03:53:58 2024 No.7003521

>>6998030
I'm sure ShartGPT works fine for really basic stuff, but as soon as you get into anything technical, it is bound to be frought with errors, because just because something is common knowledge doesn't make it correct. One of my other hobbies has a certain point about which the internet's apparent common knowledge is simply wrong - I see it all the time, on YouTube videos, reddit, wherever, somebody will post the thing in question, and immediately will get upvoted comments which say "don't do this thing with that, or bad thing is going to happen!!" when that bad thing won't happen - the belief is based on a somewhat similar, but fundamentally different, thing. Relying on distilled knowledge from the broad internet is stupid, and I'd rather find a somewhat trusted source and evaluate from there, instead of hoping that an AI model is just so happening to scrape its data from said accurate source.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 03:55:33 2024 No.7003523 >>7003517 >i want to learn from you >omg fucking luddite low iq fuck you my image generation can do better lets talk about the future of ai and how it will make me a vr robogf honestly, i just come here to laugh at these replies i dont care to argue

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 03:56:19 2024 No.7003524
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>>7003519
i do not wish to do that. maybe once everyone cools off, /ic/ ai threads will be like what i imagined them. the only thing that could be construed as trolling is when i correct an anon whos repeating a false statement based on dogma or simply the wrong information.
when i start saying dada and impressionism are the same, or something gay like that, you have every right to call me a faggot.

>>7003523
i have unironically never posted any of these things

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 03:59:29 2024 No.7003529
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>7003517
>says he wants to learn
>just prompts
>doesn't attempt to show any work that can actually be critiqued
>spams and double fellatio's other prompt troon how "good" their prompt pic is
>demands for c(YOU)m

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 04:10:41 2024 No.7003544 >>7003519 >>7003529 I think we are the only people that give him attention. He most live a sad life to keep coming on /ic/ to go fishing for (you)s.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 04:14:10 2024 No.7003548 File: 5 KB, 640x480, 1696125748662755.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6997928 >Because I know how its tech works (LLM) obviously you don't because stable diffusion is not an LLM

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 04:21:18 2024 No.7003558
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>>7003510
>because they know a human crafted it
sure, you and me care about the person behind the piece. but first impressions go a long way for everyone else. initially i thought generated images were inherently better, as in i would learn its ai and find it even more pleasing - but now i realize ai and non-ai just have different strengths and weaknesses. nothing more. neither is better or worse. now the only time im really impressed by a gen is when it leans into what makes ai different from other mediums (read: lots of controlled hallucinations).
>because at least it's a display of skill and you can respect that
are you meaning if you were able to differentiate the skill levels of anons doing imggen, you'd be able to respect the ones with the higher skill? or do you feel no matter how much of that is involved, its meaningless?

>>7003548
yeah i havent dove at all into llms, that anon is dumb lol. but lets not make this a tech thread.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 04:25:58 2024 No.7003563 >>7003510 >Humans that appreciate art do so because they know a human crafted it Humans recognize other humans both make and use AI to create art.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 04:32:38 2024 No.7003568 >>7003563 they recognize them the same way they see some guy that commissioned a piece from someone else

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 04:34:25 2024 No.7003569 >>7003568 You really live that pretending to be a retard life huh

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 04:37:15 2024 No.7003574 >>7003568 the difference is one prompts the commissioner while the person using the ai generator, oh...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 04:44:55 2024 No.7003583 >>6997849

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 04:52:23 2024 No.7003588 >>7003569 The lack of a comeback is delicious nigger kek

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 05:41:57 2024 No.7003634

>>7003568
Yeah. I check my followers, and when I see an artist follow me, I feel honored, even if they're prebeg. When I see a bunch of AI images in the follower's gallery, I feel no different than when I'm followed by "ffsttrrrtt2636" and their empty gallery.

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 10:40:58 2024 No.7003802

>>7003279
>here is far more imagination in AI art threads than on /ic/
Is that really surprising? This is /ic/, remember, no one here is an artist. The posters here barely draw. Hell I'm probably the only in this thread with an actual job as an artist and I mostly just post in AI threads on /b/ these days. And the reason is clear. Say, I had a good original idea and spent 20+ hours to paint artwork in my own style, the last place I would post it on would be 4chan.
AI slop is low effort enough and anonymous so I don't mind throwing it to the swine.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 10:48:48 2024 No.7003806 >>7003510 This is so bullshit and you know it. How many times this place freaked out because an artist used a 3D pose model as a base?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 11:47:35 2024 No.7003834 >>7003802 >Is that really surprising? Kind of, after thinking about it. But I wasn't making that point I was just stating a fact.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 17:38:45 2024 No.7004138 >elf_anon lmao i remember this guy from /v/ you can even see the drop of his twatter likes on his "art" as the interest in the technology waned what a fag

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 17:55:20 2024 No.7004151 >>7004138 What went wrong in your life to care about likes on twitter?

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 18:00:59 2024 No.7004160

>>7004151
my life? nothing, i don't even have twatter
his life? a lot, evidently, since very obviously being recognized as an artist is his reason d'etre and he goes grossly out of his way to normalize ai art on multiple boards
ultimately i'm trying to point out how mistaken he is for thinking there ever was any interest for his 1girl, masterpiece, best quality, elf, large breasts, <lora:ARTISTNAME:1.0> apart from the software, which he has nothing to do with, being a technological marvel

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 18:01:33 2024 No.7004162 >>7004151 t.malding aifag

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 18:17:25 2024 No.7004173 >>7004160 >imploding over a literal who What did he do to you? >>7004162 I don't use ai.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 18:18:18 2024 No.7004175 >>7004173 >What did he do to you? you must've missed when i said that i remember him from /v/

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 18:24:47 2024 No.7004184

>>7003373
>No one owns an art style you shiczo.
Regardless of law. Using someone else's art style is just that, not yours, thiers. There is an ownership. There is nothing, not a smidge, of you, when you use someones art style in a prompt because it is to your liking, your taste. Compared with say a DBZ fan artists attempting toriyama's style, there is always something of the artist no matter how they try. You are basically nothing, a non element. Trip is at least something. You are a glorified Pinterest board/Tumblr page collecting stuff you like.

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 18:29:13 2024 No.7004191

I fully agree with OP. Been using SD to generate all sorts of inspirations for poses, designs etc and I've found an artist mix that I like that I use for reference on occasion. AI is a great tool that people are sleeping on. Of course you can't heavily rely on it because it WILL fuck things up and draw impossible poses n whatnot but it's still a great resource.

As far as I'm concerned, as long as the final image was made 100% by my own hand then it's my own original work, there's nothing wrong with using AI for reference

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 18:30:12 2024 No.7004195 >>7004191 Sounds good, care to post any work you made from ai ref?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 18:31:58 2024 No.7004200 >>7004195 No

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 18:56:44 2024 No.7004248
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>>7004184
>There is nothing, not a smidge, of you, when you use someones art style in a prompt because it is to your liking, your taste. Compared with say a DBZ fan artists attempting toriyama's style, there is always something of the artist no matter how they try.
AI can't copy styles perfectly and there are a billion different ways to get a style into a million different models, and it mixes with other things in the prompt(ie other styles). A style also isn't a monolith, it changes constantly even if being drawn by the man artist behind it. The content of the images besides the style is also a part of an artist's signature and that will be different too.
>fanart, that picture, FFTA, FFT
They're all different.

I shouldn't have to tell you this but it's okay to be inspired by and to create similar things to others. That's basically what art is in a nutshell, a transfer of ideas. And no one owns those ideas. We can only have some ownership of our physical work.

>Trip is at least something.
What does this mean?

> You are a glorified Pinterest board/Tumblr page collecting stuff you like.
Aren't we all. This is a fine analogy of modern human life.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 19:02:41 2024 No.7004252 >>7004160 The fate of all AIfaggots

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 19:03:50 2024 No.7004253 >>7004252 To be envied by drawlets.

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 19:11:34 2024 No.7004268
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>>6997806
>Now, instead of having to search through tens or hundreds of images to find an ideal reference,
No? The fucking references are dogshit, what are you talking about? Moreover when I'm searching for real references my google search is filled with ai dogshit slop with zero character and flavour, especially when you look up historical shit and such you are met with picrel. Half of mesoamerican search results are fucking awful ai dogshit

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 19:12:57 2024 No.7004271

>>7004248
>Blah blah blah style this that
Not relevant to what I said
>What does this mean?
Trip, out resident ai promoter, incorporates his sketches with ai.
>Aren't we all. This is a fine analogy of modern human life.
No? I have my own ideas. I experiment, explore, right on the pages.

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 19:17:29 2024 No.7004279
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>>7004268
This is time stamped. AI is objectively better for generic references than anything else.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-i09Nz96cw&t=4089s

>>7004271
>Not relevant to what I said
Completely relevant, you're just ignoring it because you want your point to land. But you said somethin retarded.
>Trip, out resident ai promoter, incorporates his sketches with ai.
What's his twitter? And I see, you don't know how AI works and think there's no control but there is. And you're overrating the pencil!
>No? I have my own ideas. I experiment, explore, right on the pages.
I do all of that too. I was turning that into a wider analogy of peopleing enjoying things that people enjoy though, but whatever.

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 19:26:01 2024 No.7004287

>>7004279
You are twisting everything I said. You are not listening. I give up.
>What's his twitter? And I see, you don't know how AI works and think there's no control but there is.
See? How did anything I say give you this idea? Trip sketches, then uses controlnet and such to color and render his lineart, sometimes painting on top and refeeding it to ai for further refinement. He is anonymous, but uses a tripcode here

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 19:32:04 2024 No.7004294
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>>7004287
>You are twisting everything I said.
You said AI doesn't have unique styles, it just copies. I explained how that is wrong and attempted to amend your misunderstanding. It was a proper reply to what you said.
>See? How did anything I say give you this idea?
You were comparing me to him so I thought he might have one. Sorry for misunderstanding you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 19:33:35 2024 No.7004300 >>7004268 that's a search engine problem. stop trying to defend google.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 19:34:54 2024 No.7004304 >>7004294 Ah, confusing me for another anon. I lead with saying prompting your tastes as a mix, is not adding anything of you to the result/mix. Aka Pinterest board.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 19:35:38 2024 No.7004305 File: 386 KB, 512x512, 522457.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7004300 Doesn't make it any better

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 19:37:19 2024 No.7004313 so what are you using to make these images and where can i get my hands on it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 19:39:49 2024 No.7004318 >>7004305 Age of empires 5 devs in shambles looking for ref. Got to go to the library...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 19:42:33 2024 No.7004328 >>6997806 >AI is democratizing art democracy is when the government gives political power to the general populace, so that's kind of a nonsensical statement.

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 19:42:36 2024 No.7004329
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What most people not seem to understand is how difficult it is to make actually great pictures with AI
pic related

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 19:44:56 2024 No.7004334 >>7004329 >shadiversity Damn didn't know he is an ai shill, quite enjoyed his videos back in the day

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 19:45:33 2024 No.7004337 >>7004329 this has to be bait

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 19:45:55 2024 No.7004338
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>>7004304
I see.
I disagree with that and I would urge you to use AI yourself and spend a lot of time trying to refine something unique and to your tastes. And then think about someone else reaching that style without your help. It's not as shallow as you believe.
The simple act of weighing and intermixing styles is a process of expression. It may not always visually manifest itself but it can. Drawing a style has that same aspect too, like off the top of my head Fairy Tail looking like One Piece. My 200 variants of Yoshida's art is sort of similar to that. None of them are the same as his or each other but they're all in the same vein. And I'm doing it for myself. If I'm not in there who is? It doesn't appear from the void, I spent time on it.

Don't get me wrong though I don't think I'm doing anything special. But I am doing something and I hope you are too because it's fun :)

>>7004334
He's kinda cringe with his tastes but I really liked his AI videos especially the first one. He invited a bunch of comic vet boomers on and it got pretty heated at times.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 19:50:32 2024 No.7004342 File: 825 KB, 1728x2080, 1692741112476136.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7004337 He's dead serious. If his work didn't look so generic I think a lot more people would have taken him seriously.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 19:57:17 2024 No.7004355 >>7004342 Almost as if people who were never interested in art in their whole lives don't have a vision worthy of putting to paper

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 19:58:32 2024 No.7004357 just lol if you reference AI art, crippling you long term

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 19:59:29 2024 No.7004359

>>7004338
I genned a lot of images. I know what it's like. The tech is cool. I have local SD and bing'd a lot.
I'll say there is something there, "nothing" is an exaggeration. But it's not the same kind of something as when an artists hand is directly involved. Not really something to feel any kind of accomplishment. It like finding something.
>Uploading files in incognito mode is not allowed.
The File field has been cleared.
Doh

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 20:01:22 2024 No.7004364
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>>7004355
He is a life long regular artist who now uses AI. I actually like his normal art better than his AI work lmao, but he likes that final render best so I find it really odd seeing artists froth about him so much.

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 20:11:12 2024 No.7004377

>>7004359
I've paid a stupid amount of attention to AI art this past year and a half and have without a doubt seen the rise of artists with very personalized prompting styles that even carry across art styles. I can them recognize in a thumbnail. One example is an anon called @TheRRRealist, whenever he posted on /g/ you could instantly tell because he nailed a certain photorealism no one else has managed to.
I do understand what you're saying because most people, especially if they're using Dall-E, are making random stuff. But that isn't everyone. Even some Dall-E users managed to round up a style that lets you recognize them in threads.
>It like finding something.
You looked for it though. That's a process, a path to a style similar to drawing and figuring out your own style. Just way easier and with practically no commit. But you can refine it.
And if you want to feel accomplished doing something you achieved, what's the problem?

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 20:18:41 2024 No.7004390

>>7004377
>Just way easier and with practically no commit. But you can refine it.
I guess it's this, since it's so easy, You could stumble into a recognizable style with completely random words, nodes and whathaveyou, decide it's "your style" and be known for it in your little community of ai users. And if you share the settings and prompts(which I always do when asked) it's now anybodies, what made "your work" unique is completely replicacable to the tiniest factor with ai. Not so with human art.

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 20:27:29 2024 No.7004408
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>>7004390
>I guess it's this, since it's so easy,
At the same time there are naturally talented artists that draw easily or artists who are expressing themselves with random shit like cans of paint. There are really technical forms of art that aren't really skill based too, that are arguably easy to get into. Effort has fuck all to do with art, lots of people like lazy made slop and that's fine, just because someone spent more effort on something else doesn't mean it's more valid.
> You could stumble into a recognizable style with completely random words, nodes and whathaveyou, decide it's "your style" and be known for it in your little community of ai users.
That's all expression is. Your style isn't something you made and own it's something you like and that feels good for expression. There are lots of copycat artists out there without defined styles. This is fine.
> And if you share the settings and prompts(which I always do when asked) it's now anybodies, what made "your work" unique is completely replicacable to the tiniest factor with ai. Not so with human art.
I will always argue that this is AMAZING and I fucking love it. As a long time modder that kinda considers that an art form, I love when people share their mods and tools and hate people that don't. How isn't this a great thing? Gatekeepers can get fucked and people can cooperate in the things they love. Bouncing prompts, models, loras, and other things between each other is a very magical thing and it's absolutely my favorite thing about AI. It's not like artists don't make guides and brushes and stuff too, even physical tools like the paintbrush are a primitive form of sharing prompts if you think about it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 20:31:29 2024 No.7004415 >>7004408 god, shut the fuck up you will NEVER be accepted as an artist fuck off

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 20:36:46 2024 No.7004424 >>7004415 >can't even act human Your ego is so flimsy. Post your work.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 20:39:04 2024 No.7004427 >>7004424 it is VERY human to be fed up with your ceaseless bullshit trying uselessly to fit in you are not among peers you useless ape now fuck off

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 20:40:00 2024 No.7004428 >>7004427 Based

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 20:43:47 2024 No.7004434

>>7004408
>That's all expression is. Your style isn't something you made and own it's something you like and that feels good for expression.
I didn't choose it, it just comes with time. There are other artists with styles I like more than my own. Even blending the artists I like would not create a style I like more than any individual one.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 20:44:47 2024 No.7004435 >>7004427 >you are not among peers you useless ape nobody is among peers here

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 20:47:13 2024 No.7004438 anti-ai fags just cant handle how much enjoyment we get out of this. it makes them FURIOUS that they arent enjoying it with us. look at the replies.

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 20:48:33 2024 No.7004442
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>>7004427
Please refute me if I have bullshitted, doesn't seem like you're capable of that though. I'm not trying to fit in I'm trying to give you a wake up call lol. I'm giving you perspective on something you don't understand.

You're the 19th century painter seething about photography or the 90s videographer seething about CGI or the 80s animator seething about photoshop.

>>7004434
That's kinda what I meant to say, it just kinda comes out and feels natural.

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 20:50:45 2024 No.7004445

>>7004438
Actually I am enjoying it. I just enjoy real art more. I give new milestones a whirl when they come and get bored quicker and quicker each time. Still waiting for a tool that makes 3d modelling for games a breeze, god damn retopo, uvs and weight painting... Those parts are not creative and just need automating perfectly.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 20:53:10 2024 No.7004450 >>7004415 anon is so mad lmao

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 20:53:19 2024 No.7004451 >>7004427 Based. This fucking AI slop spam really belongs on /g/. Letting this kind of faggot proliferate here will just bring more spam

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 21:00:01 2024 No.7004461

>>7004442
shut the fuck up, mongoloid, and stop with the "artists do x and y" bullshit, cause first of all you don't know what the fuck they do, cause you're not one, second, your promptard nigger shit is as close to self expression as a fucking commission, you retarded neanderthal, don't even THINK for a ZEPTOSECOND that ANYTHING you promp is a reflection of you as it is the equivalent, from your perspective, of giving someone else instructions on what you want to see, a portrait of you is not a portrait made by you, third of all, you don't choose your style, which you would know as a matter of course if you even once in your miserable life picked up a pencil, fourth of all, you're not educating anyone on fucking anything cause you're the most ignorant monkey i've ever fucking seen in my entire life
you're WAY out of your depth, fuck off

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 21:00:28 2024 No.7004462
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>>7004445
>Still waiting for a tool that makes 3d modelling for games a breeze, god damn retopo, uvs and weight painting... Those parts are not creative and just need automating perfectly.
I wonder how artists will think about that. When their styles enter the world of 3D without their permission, and when 'copyrighted data' no longer has any meaning since you could create a 3D model/scene and use that to train an art model haha.

>>7004461
I'm not going to.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 21:01:17 2024 No.7004463 >im so lonely >please argue with me >FAGGOTFAGGOTTRANNYFAGGOTFAGGOT

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 21:02:04 2024 No.7004464 >>7004462 It won't because ai already peaked

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 21:03:50 2024 No.7004465 >>7004461 >stop with the "artists do x and y" bullshit, cause first of all you don't know what the fuck they do, cause you're not one real artists aren't engaging in pointless arguments with schizos on a mongolian basket weaving forum. they're drawing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 21:03:52 2024 No.7004466 File: 149 KB, 1024x1024, 1679245162133547.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7004464 You're saying 3D AI won't come out? There have been new tech demos a couple times aa week for a while now.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 21:05:19 2024 No.7004470 >>7004465 They also argue on X. The anti-AI activism almost feels like the pot for the next social justice movement.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 21:06:02 2024 No.7004473 >>7004466 I'm saying it already peaked retardo

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 21:06:47 2024 No.7004475 File: 450 KB, 1024x1024, 1679460833816191.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7004473 I assure you it hasn't. It's barely started.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 21:08:02 2024 No.7004478 >>7004475 )

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 21:13:09 2024 No.7004484 >>7004473 true. artists shouldn't have to worry about ai. it's not capable of threatening real artists.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 21:14:55 2024 No.7004487 >>7004461 reading this makes me think that you're really mad

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 21:16:18 2024 No.7004493 >>7004484 It's probably why the aifaggot feels the need to spam his shit on /ic/

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 21:19:21 2024 No.7004496 File: 1.04 MB, 587x1057, rrrealist.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7004377 >I can them recognize in a thumbnail. One example is an anon called @TheRRRealist what exactly stands out here?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 21:21:55 2024 No.7004500 >>7004496 Not having 6 limbs like all other ai slop

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 21:28:13 2024 No.7004510 File: 1.47 MB, 1024x1624, 1687353953209230.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7004496 Damn his style went to shit, he used to post better pictures on /g/

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>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 21:39:13 2024 No.7004531 >>7004510 >his style more like the software he used got an update lmfao

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 21:46:25 2024 No.7004548 File: 134 KB, 1000x667, donutsteel_02.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7004408 Hey, that's my work.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 21:49:01 2024 No.7004555 >>7004548 psshh... >steals this art >>7004531 He uses SD which is offline. It was an intentional change.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 22:01:23 2024 No.7004586 >>7004279 >pic related Man, that anon really did a number on you

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 22:03:34 2024 No.7004592 >>7004586 I thought he was here and tried to bait him. Do you remember what his name was? He deleted his twitter and I can't remember it lmao.

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 22:08:58 2024 No.7004601
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>>7004592
It was me though.
>tried to bait him
Anon, i'm kind of bored with this.
People are going to argue you and you're just going to say
>omg u so mad cope seethe artist bad
You can't do this shit all the time, kind of takes a toll on your psyche and honestly

Trolling is about timing and being subtle, not spamming and pretending to be retarded nonstop
And i've humored you enough because
you might be legitimately mentally ill no offense but you're weirding even me out

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 22:11:10 2024 No.7004607 >>7004601 Too easy. Why did you delete your twitter?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 22:12:21 2024 No.7004608 >>7004607 Because i was bored with it? Or is deleting your twitter akin to suicide? >too easy bruh

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 22:13:01 2024 No.7004611 >>7004608 I wanted to see your progress is all.

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 22:17:10 2024 No.7004614

>>7004611
Yeah, but why do you assume that was my actual work and that i would waste my work on wasting time while being openly hostile towards a spammer with apparently no life whatsoever?
Are you genuinely hoping to go somewhere with this shit hence why you assume anyone with a twitter profile does too?

Do you believe people are that retarded?
Genuinely asking, bro.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 22:23:39 2024 No.7004621 >>7004614 I want to thank you for taking the bait so magnificently because I found it very funny but I don't want to have a conversation with you. You're weird, obsessive, and don't make sense.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 22:25:34 2024 No.7004624 >>7004614 You should just ignore the retard and do something productive instead of wasting your time on him

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 22:27:28 2024 No.7004627 >>7004624 Agreed.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 22:29:55 2024 No.7004631 File: 53 KB, 500x500, 1700529748328529.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7004621 Sure, good luck, bro. >>7004624 I was just curious about where he stands with the spam. I had my share of fun.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 14:36:17 2024 No.7005621 >>6998701 >But if I used the same prompts and got the literal same image, it wouldn't be? copying someone else's prompt is the same as tracing their art

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 14:40:11 2024 No.7005623 >>7005621 No it isn't. Using the same seed would be. What you're saying is that drawing a copyrighted character is tracing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 15:03:09 2024 No.7005645 >>7005621 No one cares about prompters feelings, I'm not sure why you want to appeal to emotions honestly

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 15:17:43 2024 No.7005661 >7004438

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 15:21:14 2024 No.7005665 wasn't this thread already done

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 15:22:21 2024 No.7005668 >>7004359

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 15:26:11 2024 No.7005671 >>7004359 what's with all the sudden changes too captcha been changing alot too

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 15:27:36 2024 No.7005673 >>7004364 fuck off nigga

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 15:28:43 2024 No.7005674 >>7004337

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 15:31:17 2024 No.7005676 >7003428 Not sure why janny sucks this much to allow AI spammers that blantely don't care about learning

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 15:32:34 2024 No.7005677 >>7001543 Jan's useless desu

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 15:33:40 2024 No.7005679 >>7003510 neat

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 15:34:49 2024 No.7005680 >>7003544

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 15:37:00 2024 No.7005682 >>7003544 It honestly seems all he does. I think to he written at least 50 unironic pages about it

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 15:38:02 2024 No.7005684 >>7004478 >) ?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 15:39:13 2024 No.7005685 >>7004408 ain't reading all that

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 15:40:59 2024 No.7005686 >>7004548 no one will honestly care desu anon >enjoy your communism

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 15:42:17 2024 No.7005688 >>7003802 >Mr Krabs and general basic anime waifu/Loli is creative

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 15:43:32 2024 No.7005691 /thread

Anonymous Fri Jan 5 16:03:38 2024 No.7005706

>>7005623
>>7005645
You have no idea how much work, thought, experience, and iteration goes into actual professional promptcrafting. The finished prompt is itself a form of art. You would expect artists of all things to understand. Admittedly it is relatively easy to reach a BASELINE acceptable level of quality if that's all you care about, but getting the most out of an idea through mastering its prompt is absolutely a skill that some of us have spent thousands of hours honing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 17:53:02 2024 No.7005804 >>7005706 This

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 19:02:45 2024 No.7005879 >>7005706 >>7005804 weak bait

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 6 03:23:06 2024 No.7006478 >>7005879 that isn't bait

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 6 03:37:47 2024 No.7006493 >>7005879 >t. never seen a typical comfyui workflow

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 6 03:59:26 2024 No.7006514 File: 2.93 MB, 4096x2224, IMG_20240102_072734.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7006493 >workflow Be careful on using that word anon, I don't think you know the typical workflow you'll find on 4chan

Anonymous Sat Jan 6 11:59:14 2024 No.7006803

>>7004510
All I see is someone too lazy to do even the basic level of cherrypicking to avoid posting obviously fucked up hands or bad compositions. Otherwise it's just the basic quality you'd get out of any SD photorealism model.
I can guarantee you that if this guy wasn't a namefag you would never know he exists.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 6 12:51:54 2024 No.7006823 >>6999177 Lol super retarded take. Did bootlicking AI replaced your brains too? Because they can’t? Show me an artist doing a nice full color piece in 3 seconds. This level of idiocy is really something.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 6 13:56:08 2024 No.7006873 >>7006803 You're wrong. You're just seeing what you're seeing and not believing me because you have a bad personality. >>7006823 Replace what he said with 3 minutes then. People can do that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 6 16:19:00 2024 No.7007010 File: 18 KB, 418x378, looking_good.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7006873 Does this really look okay to you? Something worth posting to public?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 6 16:56:53 2024 No.7007058 >>7007010 I didn't say anything about how good it looks.

Anonymous Sat Jan 6 17:06:03 2024 No.7007070

>>7007058
>One example is an anon called @TheRRRealist, whenever he posted on /g/ you could instantly tell because he nailed a certain photorealism no one else has managed to.
If that was supposed to mean that fucked up hands and anatomy are unique to his works, that would also be false.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 6 19:37:58 2024 No.7007214 for once a janny did his job

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