/int/ & /beg/ - Intermediate and Beginners Thread

[Anonymous No.6992030]

If you are a /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
Use this thread instead of making new threads or post in the drawthread with fundamental exercises.

>READ THE STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/

>TRY TO BE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK.
When giving feedback, avoid vague "advice" - point what's wrong and try to give the anon you're quoting a clear direction
to improve their art (study heads < watch THIS VIDEO about head structure, read THIS SECTION of THIS ARTIST'S BOOK, etc).
You, feedback seeking anon, should also try to be clear and concise when asking for critique/help.
When posting your artwork, say what you want help with, and what's your goal with the study/artwork.

previous thread: >>6989542

[Anonymous No.6992032]

[Anonymous No.6992038]

i dropped my pen and i think it might have broken something in it cause the pressure sensitivity is weird now its so fucking over

[Anonymous No.6992039]

>>6992030
Remember:
before criticising any of my work I post, I will require this information about you
1. your full name - name and surname
2. the address of your current residence
3. the address of your workplace
4. your marital status and the name of your spouse, if any
5. your annual wage, before and after tax
6. your license plate
7. your place of birth
8. the names of your parents
9. your credit card number and the expiration date
and finally you MUST post your work.
If but one of these points is not met, or, if I am unable to find a Wikipedia page about you, that matches the information you have given, that lists you as a prominent artist in any artistic field, all your critique directed towards me or my work is invalid and actually the opposite of what you say is true and my work is perfect and devoid of any mistakes.
Also, when you do criticise my work, you can not use any word included in the following list because your post will automatically get filtered by my automatic filtering system. You must treat me like a toddler when you criticise my work or I will cry.
https://rentry.org/za5t5

Let's keep it nice and civil in here, folks.

[Anonymous No.6992042]

>>6992038
you could try remapping the pressure curve to recreate what it used to feel like

[Anonymous No.6992053]

>be the best artist in the thread
>get ignored

/begs/ don't know that pain us GMIs have to go through each and everyday.

[Anonymous No.6992056]

[Anonymous No.6992066]

>>6992056

[Anonymous No.6992073]

>>6992038
screw top off pull out nib, clean it and blow some air in it. Works everytime for me at least.

[Anonymous No.6992074]

>>6992030
Is there any tool/website that has the following:
>assortment of figures from various angles
>each figure has a seperate layer for the gesture, construction boxes/cylinders, muscles/fat, and final contours
>maybe also has 3d models of figures where you can visualize the boxes and cylinders from all angles by moving the camera
This would be immensely helpful to understand how muscles and such should be placed in the drawing, rather than just using the final contoured image as a reference. I am using the Hampton approach which is nice and has a process but his tutorials are quite helter-skelter.

[Anonymous No.6992076]

>>6992053
waah waah go seek attention on twitter or reddit fag

[Anonymous No.6992085]

Hi /ic/
burnt out techie, complete beg on art. I'm starting to learn being a techie is not feasible forever in my life and I need to something to fall back on. Thinking of becoming a webcomic artist or, dare I say it, "game dev".

Is it worth it to go to school for this shit or should I just grindset as per the sticky. School also for meeting new people and stuff. I don't see any webcomic meetups in my area
>inb4 fuck off we're fu

[Anonymous No.6992095]

>>6992085
Pyw

[Anonymous No.6992096]

>>6992085
From one person in STEM to another--seriously, don't do art with any expectation of making any money from it. I'd venture a guess that nearly 90% of what gets artists popular enough that they can eat from their work is sheer luck (picked up by the algorithm, retweeted/reposted by the right person, made a meme that happened to land right, etc.) If you're going to try for corporate art positions rather than Patreon bucks, you're going to be competing with people who have been doing art for literally a lifetime longer than you have. If you're insistent on switching fields, gamedev is actually going to be a much safer option for you IMO compared to trying to make it just as an artist.

For what it's worth, I personally take the approach that my boring STEM job is just there to make me enough money to retire and devote the rest of my life to art. It's a necessary evil I live with in order to find actualization where my passion actually lies.

[Anonymous No.6992102]

>>6992096
I asked that guy to post his work because he may have also drawn his whole life and is just now getting serious about it. Tons of engineers and lawyers and doctors who draw all their lives but never tried to make art into a career. He may not be completely hopeless

[Anonymous No.6992109]

>>6992085
Welcome to /ic/
Stay techie, draw for fun and draw like crazy!
Doing webcomic for income is hard - mad competition, minimal income options from online publishing.. Maybe its doable if you live in a 3rd world country.
IMO School wont teach you to draw, most schools assume you know the fundamentals on entry.
Get grinding, make friends.

[Anonymous No.6992110]

Is it actually possible to start from the bottom at 24? I've been wanting to do it for six years.

[Anonymous No.6992113]

I think it turned out well

[Anonymous No.6992121]

>>6992110
yes this is your last chance

[Anonymous No.6992123]

>>6992110
>Certified: The Eternal "if only I had started earlier"

[Anonymous No.6992124]

Reposting

[Anonymous No.6992129]

>>6992095
I wish I had any work worthy to post maybe in a week or so

>>6992096
>>6992109
Thanks for the insights anons!

[Anonymous No.6992131]

>>6992085
If you can spare the tuition fees without going into debt and your government hands out student allowances I'd say go for it. Fine arts degrees will either have you doing proper work, or just train you to make bullshit "performace art" so do your research into their alumni. Contacts and friendly competition is the fastest way to get good and get into the industry.
Otherwise stick to the tech work but cut back to part-time hours (or whatever hours support your basics) and use the spare time to grind it out.
The /beg/ sticky gives you a huge leg up against all the other self-taught artists out there. You seem like you're asking the right questions, potential GMI so long as you pick up a pencil and start yesterday.
Few tips:
>Youtube is your friend
>Galleries host life modelling classes (vital)
>Only draw what you want to draw
>Bad stories/dialogue can be covered up with good art/distinct style
>Hit up local Zinefests and get a stall once you've got a body of work, they're chock-full of liberal arts majors but just grit your teeth until you meet decent artists
Once you've made one (1) complete comic with decent art you're ready to start platforming and monetising, there's some shockingly bad comics out there that've attained decent success so throw yourself into it if it's really what you wanna do.

[Anonymous No.6992158]

>>6992073
i think spraying compressed air into the nib hole actually helped, crazy

[Anonymous No.6992164]

Just watch YouTube, play videogames, scroll 4chan in your room all day. It's comfortable. You can draw tomorrow when you feel ready.

[Anonymous No.6992169]

>>6992102
I get where you're coming from, but when I hear "complete /beg/" I assume pre-FWAP level /beg/. Who knows, though.

[Anonymous No.6992173]

My new OC Homer-chan believes in you! kawaii desu ne arigato!! :3

[Anonymous No.6992202]

>>6992164

[Anonymous No.6992208]

>>6992124
Love the colors and pose. Since the face is a major focal point, I'd give it more detail and push the frown/intense glare.

[Anonymous No.6992211]

[Anonymous No.6992213]

How do I practice perspective? all the perspective exercises i find consist of drawing buildings, findings the horizon or boring shit like that.

[Anonymous No.6992216]

>>6992213
yeah that's perspective

[Anonymous No.6992226]

>>6992208
woooowww, thanks for the high effort critique. Next time I'll accentuate the focal point a bit more

[Anonymous No.6992228]

I have literally tried doing several artistic hobbies and gave up each of them immediately when I was a teenager.
>Gave up on Source Filmmaker
>Gave up on GameMaker
>Gave up on FireAlpaca
>Gave up on Photoshop
I didn't know how any of them worked or what to
do. I don't even know basic trig. Even when I look art guides, i literally cannot comprehend them or figure them out. I don't want to be stuck with no creativity or being unable to express myself. I'm 24 and I've made literally zero progress in trying to learn and the only other time before that was when I was like 12. Literally everything to me looks ridiculous and impossible. My entire life I've felt like doing anything was like climbing a mountain.
Nothing interests me. All I can do is think about doing something, not actually doing it. I've been working out for years, and this mental block just doesn't go away. Nothing I've ever done has helped me get myself closer to the goal.
I've never been able to commit myself to any serious hobby, ever. All I can do is type and that's it. I've never finished writing a single story in my entire life. Now I want to try different hobbies. Every single one of them when I was younger, I gave up on.

[Anonymous No.6992234]

Literally everything to me looks ridiculous and impossible. My entire life I've felt like doing anything was like climbing a mountain.
Nothing interests me. All I can do is think about doing something, not actually doing it. I've been working out for years, and this mental block just doesn't go away. Nothing I've ever done has helped me get myself closer to the goal.
I've never been able to commit myself to any serious hobby, ever. All I can do is type and that's it. I've never finished writing a single story in my entire life. Now I want to try different hobbies. Every single one of them when I was younger, I gave up on.
I have literally tried doing several artistic hobbies and gave up each of them immediately when I was a teenager.
>Gave up on Source Filmmaker
>Gave up on GameMaker
>Gave up on FireAlpaca
>Gave up on Photoshop
I didn't know how any of them worked or what to
do. I don't even know basic trig. Even when I look art guides, I literally cannot comprehend them or figure them out. I don't want to be stuck with no creativity or being unable to express myself. This is what it's like for literally everything I try doing.

[Anonymous No.6992236]

>>6992213
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehz-lF3UwqQ

Basically, if you can draw a cube in perspective from imagination you're ready to move on from academic perspective exercises. Separate each form of your composition into perspective cubes, then draw each form inside those cubes. Eventually you'll intuitively "see" the cubes while sketching, and you'll be able to approximate all your perspective from the first two contour lines you draw around each form.

[Anonymous No.6992240]

>>6992234
>Posts in the beginner thread
>Hasn't even begun
Fuck off, loser.

[Anonymous No.6992241]

>>6992213
drawabox if you are referring to perspective basics. Drawing a lot of boxes is boring as fuck, but it gets the job done, as long as you stay awake during the work.

>>6992228
Stop cluttering up the beg/int thread and do studies, come back and show ussss! we are waiting! If you want exercises, check out the sticky. GO GO!

[Anonymous No.6992253]

>>6992241
I've tried doing it and stopped on the first upside down sketching exercise. Couldn't even fit the guys head on the bottom.

[Anonymous No.6992259]

>>6992253
Stop writing, go do.
Try again, fail or fail less, repeat

[Anonymous No.6992260]

>>6992259
amazingly beautiful

[Anonymous No.6992286]

Hello /beg/, my early new year's resolution is to keep myself accountable by posting daily here. No more procrastination, I'm GMI. To start off I drew some random figures and two skulls from different references. Please critique freely.
And since I'm asking for critique I'll try to give out some as well, take it with a grain of salt as I am beg, I will try to give advice equal to my level. Excuse me for being a mass reply fag.
>>6992032
Since this is a meme post all I'll say is that I have no idea what he's holding.
>>6992042
Lovely rendering, soft warm feelings from this
>>6992053
I know I'm guilty of this, but I imagine anons skip over posts that are already high tier and don't need much advice that isn't from a pro. The main focus of this thread is to critique after all, not give praise. Anyway, your stuff's pretty good.
>>6992109
Very nice, what I'd like to be at.
>>6992113
Cool pose, very dynamic
>>6992124
Another cool pose, I also really like how the light from his hand casts over the figure. Other guy's redraw of the face was top tier.
>>6992164
If you're the same "I didn't draw today poster" then you've been doing yourself no favors by not creating art like that. It tickles that surrealist itch.
>>6992173
His lack of eyebrows unnerves me. I'm also unsure of what to make of the top of his head. I believe in him too, that he will grow hair.
>>6992211
More quality stuff
>>6992259
Nice gestures, crazy how a few lines put together in a certain way can be so sexy. I love art.

Cheers to more progress this year /beg/!

>captcha PPP XD K

[Anonymous No.6992291]

>>6992286
those skulls are badass

[Anonymous No.6992298]

no

[Anonymous No.6992320]

Tried to copy some stuff. Need to take more care next time

[Anonymous No.6992323]

>>6992030
hello /beg/mates! apparently, doing random boxes on vacuum doesn't really help so I tried making it follow some perspective. here's my latest boxes!

I also realized my lines looks thick and weird than other artists uses here. should I use thinner strokes?

[Anonymous No.6992324]

Am I retarded or is the anatomy on this super fucked?

[Anonymous No.6992326]

>>6992324
Did you draw this?

[Anonymous No.6992327]

>>6992324
she's fat but it looks fine

[Anonymous No.6992332]

>>6992326
No. It's from a mtg card and I thought it looked fucked. I think part of it is visual tangents like the leaf by her armpit, but even on closer inspection some things bother me, like the shape of her torso. Haven't really drawn fat people before though.

[Anonymous No.6992334]

I won’t be drawing for this thread, either.

[Anonymous No.6992338]

>>6992324
>>6992332
The left upper arm (her right) looks too long.

[Anonymous No.6992348]

>>6992338
Didn't even see that. Looks like she could touch her shin without bending over.

[Anonymous No.6992351]

>>6992324
I think what makes this look uncanny is that the face/neck does not fit that body at all. Definitely used two completely different references.
Anyway, don't post other people's work to critique, you're losing the plot of the thread.

[Anonymous No.6992352]

merry xmas bros

[Anonymous No.6992356]

>>6992351
I don't post anything but studies here anyways, on the off chance I make it. Seeing shitty renderfag art make it onto an mtg card (a legendary creature at that) gives me hope.

[Anonymous No.6992359]

I drew for 3 hours today, fuck you passive aggressive tomorrow poster, fuck you bitch

[Anonymous No.6992363]

>>6992356
no one cares that much bro

[Anonymous No.6992364]

>>6992359
Fuck you, faggot!

[Anonymous No.6992365]

>>6992352
Merry Marin Christmas!

[Anonymous No.6992366]

>>6992324
>>6992332
>>6992338
>>6992348
>>6992351
>>6992356
when the dunning kruger hits

[Anonymous No.6992397]

oa

[Anonymous No.6992399]

>>6992356
If you're impressed by that, I feel like you're not very familiar with much older mtg sets that have painfully bad art.

[Anonymous No.6992402]

fixed her fucked up face from the last thread to where I dont hate it anymore

[Anonymous No.6992407]

right

[Anonymous No.6992409]

I spent all day trying to colour it and failed. So now i'm a black and white chad.

>>6992402
I brought my pencil

[Anonymous No.6992411]

>>6992286
I tried drawing said object again to hopefully make it clearer

[Anonymous No.6992413]

>>6992407
how dare you render your drawing when the perspective on her pinky is wrong???

[Anonymous No.6992417]

>>6992323
Try the 250 box challenge if you want to. I feel like boxes are something you shouldn't do alone and should be learning alongside other things, that way you can make sense of the contexts in which to use them.

[Anonymous No.6992434]

>>6992030
arms and torso are ref lower body is mainly imagination, which is why I think it's technically impossible. I don't know what I'm doing. I think arms are too scrawny but compared to the size of the torso they're pretty accurate to ref. Maybe it's just because from the hips down he's ridiculously thick.

[Anonymous No.6992457]

>>6992359
Well done, keep it up

[Anonymous No.6992460]

drew this for a friend who is really good, any mistakes pointed out or advice on fixes would be appreciated

[Anonymous No.6992464]

Drawn this as a gift. The original piece was trad-made.

[Anonymous No.6992466]

>>6992460
the tangent with her tail and foot is annoying

[Anonymous No.6992470]

>>6992464
straight into the spank folder
almost reminds me of wattson from apex

[Anonymous No.6992472]

>>6992466
Maybe like this?

[Anonymous No.6992475]

>>6991796
>thorfinn
I've never heard of this character before, The hair is similar but that's a failure on my part, I definitely ended up with too much volume, I wanted something more boyish

[Anonymous No.6992477]

>>6992472
yeah that looks better
a bit more room on the left and top would help the composition, it's a bit cramped.
little bit more contrast on the face would help too, it doesn't stand out the much. although if you were going to color it then that'd probably sort itself out.

[Anonymous No.6992487]

>>6992434
Is it just me or does adding a head make it not look as weird?

[Anonymous No.6992498]

>>6992477
thank you for your advice, how's this?

[Anonymous No.6992500]

>>6992498
I could be wrong but I feel like her left eye is a little too far out, other than that good job

[Anonymous No.6992501]

Did this while I was at work to keep me from falling asleep, didnt really do too much for the face because I was dead tired and didnt want to deal with it

[Anonymous No.6992502]

>>6992487
Fuck yes you're on the money, what you're seeing is the detail of the head draws the focus away from the detail of the legs.
I think the main reason you felt the leg looked off was the left hip bone is popping out of the socket a little, if the thigh were rotated clockwise a little and raised up it'd look more cohesive, the rest of your anatomy is solid.

[Anonymous No.6992508]

>>6992498
your welcome, only thing bothering me now is the highlight on her upper arm overlapping the line a bit.
if i really wanted to nitpick, then maybe make the thumb a bit more thumb-like, took me a while to 'read' it properly as a thumb and not another finger.

[Anonymous No.6992515]

>>6992502
>s the left hip bone is popping out of the socket a little, if the thigh were rotated clockwise a little and raised up it'd look more cohesive
I think I see what you're saying. I'll sleep on it and try re-work it tomorrow with fresh eyes. Maybe get my friend to take a ref pic for me.

>the rest of your anatomy is solid
Thank you anon, it's nice to hear.

[Anonymous No.6992521]

>>6992500
Thanks again anon, tried to move the right eye closer and add shinies

[Anonymous No.6992537]

>>6992521
much better

[Anonymous No.6992538]

Merry Christmas, frens. With this, I have finished studying Hampton’s anatomy drawings. My body is now ready for Bridgman. Probably gonna draw some naked ladies first, though. And might work through Dynamic Sketching as well. Or maybe I’ll do a perspective book. But anyway, feels good to finish this.
>>6992032
Kek. Use refs for weapons until you’ve memorized them.
>>6992042
>>6992211
Lovely work, anon
>>6992113
Looks cool as fuck, very high energy
>>6992109
Needs fluffy bunny tail
>>6992173
Thanks, fren. WAGMI
>>6992259
These are pretty fucking good, anon.
>>6992286
>skulls
>thighs
>determination
BASED GMI
>>6992208
Again, very dynamic. I think the hands need work, but everything else is very good.
>>6992320
These look pretty good. I can see you’re feeling the form, anon. Good on you for putting in the effort! GMI
>>6992323
Boxes are always a good things to draw. Cylinders and other primitive forms, too. Look up some basic perspective videos (David Finch has good ones) and use that to get an idea of how to draw boxes in perspective. Thick lines can look better because you’ve got more margin for error so you can get away with being sloppier. It’s probably better to go a bit thinner for learning to draw. Probably not a huge deal.
>>6992352
Merry Christmas!
>>6992397
Oh, you’re back! I like your art
>>6992402
Looks quite nice, but the way you drew her sleeve makes it look like has one thick motherfucker of a tricep.
>>6992407
Neat pose, anon.feet need work. I love the skindentation, though
>>6992409
Looks good, love the woman’s body and the simple indications of anatomy, good shapes and stylization.
>>6992411
I think you should do more boxes and cylinders from imagination, and keep doing heads from reference. You;re putting in good work, anon
>>6992464
Nice
>>6992475
Pretty good depiction of hair here
>>6992487
Good line work. Her hips seem lopsided, shoulders are a little wide and barrel-chested. Good hands!
>>6992501
Based
>>6992498
Absolutely lovely

[Anonymous No.6992539]

>>6992521
Yep, better. Great job, anon

[Anonymous No.6992540]

Either I am physically disabled or there is something I’m fundamentally misunderstanding about drawing as a starting line /beg/.
How do a draw a *single* straight line? Or *one* good looking square?

Possible misunderstandings:
1. They don’t actually have to be perfect as long as I’m trying, they get better over time.
2. Drawing in general is actually way slower than I realize (genuinely trying at a square I take 7ish seconds, am I way off?)
I never drew as a kid so I don’t even have the basics down, I’m attempting to start from actual zero.

[Anonymous No.6992567]

>>6992538
>Her

[Anonymous No.6992575]

>feel the form
What? What the fuck you talking about? How do you feel a 2d shape? Are you slow? Just draw the damn curve jfc

[Anonymous No.6992576]

>>6992540
I wasn't able to draw a single line without wobbling and going off course like a spastic 2 months ago. After practicing for 30 minutes a day I can draw almost any straight line I want, I haven't even touched the stabiliser on my new tablet because I don't need it. Just aim for good enough lines and take it slow for now.

[Anonymous No.6992578]

>>6992575
It basically just means being able to draw lines that follow the surface of the form. Like the two lines that wrap around the Loomis sphere. It’s nothing special beyond that.

[Anonymous No.6992579]

>>6992324
>fat bitch body
>skinny girl face
lol lmao

[Anonymous No.6992581]

>>6992576
Don’t bother “drilling” this shit. Better pencil control is the one thing that will unironically get better if you “just draw”. It happens naturally.

[Anonymous No.6992582]

bricking this account with no survivors

[Anonymous No.6992584]

What do you guys do when you get bored of drawing still lifes and portraits? I've been reading Keys to Drawing and it feels like that's all I do

[Anonymous No.6992598]

>>6992584
Draw what you like. Is it happy trees? Is it anime bitches with huge tits? Is it furry garbage. Go draw it. Personally I get good to draw what I like better.

[Anonymous No.6992600]

>>6992324
Oh my god thiccc

[Anonymous No.6992604]

>>6992324

skinny face on a fat body. looks odd.

her arms looks... rubbery. maybe because of fat? maybe?

[Anonymous No.6992605]

>>6992366

found the artist. KEK.

[Anonymous No.6992606]

>>6992598
My brain is stupid and thinks I have to do everything in order, even if it makes it less enjoyable

[Anonymous No.6992611]

how did I fuck up so bad.

[Anonymous No.6992629]

>>6992581
Partially correct. Nta but obviously your line confidence increases as you draw familiar shapes a lot, but I can tell anon up there is learning to draw with his whole arm, not just his wrists. Artists who do draw better and never have to worry about wrist pain. If you draw with your wrist you still achieve good line quality, but at a heavy cost, and it won't be the possible best you can do, practically drawing only at 60% of your capability at your best. Anon is just aiming for 90%

[Anonymous No.6992640]

>>6992611 not sure if this is better but I made Arona more expressive

[Anonymous No.6992643]

I only draw once a month or sometimes every few months. It's not that I dislike drawing, I think it's just cause I'm lazy, get bored easily and have ADHD. What's the best way to overcome this? Just make myself draw at a certain time even if I'm not in the mood?

[Anonymous No.6992660]

>>6992508
Didn't see comment before, I'll try to work on the arm and thumb

>>6992537
>>6992539

Thanks again for all the helpful feedback and suggestions

[Anonymous No.6992661]

I realize now. Art is all about manifesting yourself to the world. First, you just pour your personality/thoughts into a canvas and enjoy it, but later you realize that the canvas is small. And you want to excert control and influence everywhere you go, and make things your way. The world is your clay, and you are the artist.

[Anonymous No.6992667]

[Anonymous No.6992669]

>>6992611
It's not so bad, I would work on color theory/values, try to limit yourself to maybe 4-5 colors to start off before adding more

>>6992538
Merry Christmas and thank you

>>6992487
can confirm heads do make bodies look not weird lol

>>6992475
Feels like the white hair and labcoat would feel more solid on a background that wasn't white, interesting design choice but it feels a bit bland? like he could have 1 more accessory or feature

>>6992464
Kinda reminds me of bruce timm

>>6992402
feels like it could use some more hard edges to balance the blurriness

>>6992409
black and white is based but don't run away from colors, it's like the color equivalent of drawing hands behind a characters back lol

>>6992397
Simple but surprisingly soulful

>>6992352
Merry Christmas

>>6992286
Skull bro, have you posted in the draw skull thread yet?

>>6992211
little blurry at parts that feels unintentional but really nice work on this

>>6992208
color composition and choice are great, I would recommend getting a reference for faces at this angle as it's a bit challenging

>>6992113
hero time!

[Anonymous No.6992671]

>>6992667
nice now make it not blurry

[Anonymous No.6992672]

Finally getting around to reading Art and Science of Drawing. The grip he recommends doesn't seem feasible with my cheap tablet. I've been going through the lessons both traditionally and digitally.

[Anonymous No.6992688]

>>6992672
The overhand grip can be useful when you draw physically with graphite sticks or pencils sharpened to expose more of the core, because you can make a wider variety of marks, but you don't need that with a tablet and drawing digitally.

[Anonymous No.6992694]

>>6992643
>>6992234
hello howie / schizo. i found your thread on /adv. pro tip: in order to not be called howie schizo post your work with the query next time.

happy xmas!

[Anonymous No.6992695]

>>6992694
what? that's not me

[Anonymous No.6992702]

[Anonymous No.6992708]

>>6992694
It's some BPD shit to crossboard post some struggling dude's /adv/ thread to call them out.

[Anonymous No.6992709]

Fuck you all, I will give up drawing because you were mean to me.

[Anonymous No.6992715]

>>6992709
If you listen to the crabs, you were never gonna make it in the first place

[Anonymous No.6992798]

>>6992694
Out of the two quotes and the picture, only one of those is Howie, anon. You're going down a slippery slope brother, do not become the schizo you first sought out to destroy.
>>6992643
I don't have any of those meme diseases (I don't think) but I've had a similar experience. Best thing you can do is force yourself to do what you want, don't wait forever for it to come naturally. You are your own worst enemy sometimes, so you have to power through the blockades you yourself placed. I recommend drawing daily at least 30 minutes and posting here to hold yourself accountable. It's a very rewarding feeling overcoming that laziness.

[Anonymous No.6992806]

Convince me to draw today.

[Anonymous No.6992809]

>>6992708
The nigga's been shitting up the board with his whiny threads for a year. It's only fair.

[Anonymous No.6992811]

>>6992806
If you don't, you're going to poop yourself in a public space you're forced to be in.

Go draw.

[sage No.6992812]

>>6992806
>>>/r/

[Anonymous No.6992815]

>>6992809
You don't even have proof that it's the same person. You're doing something based on what you think is recognition, and that itself is kind of schizophrenic. You're annoyed and that's understandable, but this isn't the place and that isn't the way.

[Anonymous No.6992859]

[Anonymous No.6992924]

Why do i get incredibly pissed off during the learning process?
I've been doing this(learning in general) for as long as i've been alive and yet i can never stop seething with anger during the initial difficulty spike that's a pre-requisite for understanding

[Anonymous No.6992944]

>>6992924
Cause you have anger issues. I still fly off the handle when nothing seems to be working out for me despite my knowing that struggling is just part of it. It hurts knowing that the trend is always
>pain>more pain>nothing seems to work>give up>wait a minute what if I... oh fuck I figured it out

This is pretty much the only way ive learned. I don't know if I'll ever get used to this

[Anonymous No.6992970]

After dipping my toes for the past few days, I can safely say I'll have a slightly easier time drawing men.

[Anonymous No.6992972]

>>6992970
I'm sorry but I laughed seeing this lol.

[Anonymous No.6992977]

I've been going through this book as recommended but feel kind of confused on what to do with it after the first ~50 pages. He starts putting readings and then drawings he has done related to those readings and I'm not really sure what I'm supposed to do with them? do i try to copy them, do i try to implement what hes saying and showing into my own drawings first, do i just read it and move on?

[Anonymous No.6992979]

>>6992972
No worries I did too, which is why I took a pic of it instead of burninating the whole thing.

[Anonymous No.6992985]

>>6992970

[Anonymous No.6992991]

>>6992985
KEK fuck you guys are awesome

[Anonymous No.6992992]

>>6992985
kek, that's great

[Anonymous No.6993003]

next year goal learn to draw faces

[Anonymous No.6993012]

[Anonymous No.6993024]

Here’s what I drew today. Been trying to get right this black shapeshifting woman demon with a nappy haired yeti form, that is part of that story I was working on. I also tried drawing my hand, and someone said boxes shouldn’t be practiced unless it’s for a purpose so I tried drawing a small floating sculpture with boxes around it and worked on crosshatching. Then i did upper right and tried to get the eyelashes I was trying to draw the first time, just a signal of her in every form she takes. Then I tried drawing the yeti form, but my hand got numb

I want to draw those hair pieces as like toony weapons the characterccan control, all her powers involving growing and mass shifting hair in beast modes or arms or whips or armor or whatever. And I can’t think of how to draw their form. It needs to be simple, to draw in animation, but it needs to look like it still fits the owl house theme. None of the released artbooks so far give any instruction on hair or eyes or whatever like those simpson sheets, so I don’t know what rules of the style I can bend here. I want her to have noticable dark red lips, and tusks. I don’t have any major references for this character like the last one, so it’s harder to gather a coherent style to her.

[Anonymous No.6993027]

30 min study

[Anonymous No.6993029]

>>6993027
She's one of they few women I find really funny and witty.

[Anonymous No.6993032]

>>6993029
whats her name?

[Anonymous No.6993035]

>>6993032
Mary Morgan.

[Anonymous No.6993047]

>join some FB art groups expecting to see terrible beginners all over
>almost every post I see is people's polished finished works
>the really terrible stuff is few and far between

this feels both motivating and demotivating at the same time. here is a scared ass I found in a group

[Anonymous No.6993055]

bros i'm really struggling with gesture drawing, i can see the lines and shapes on my head but they all turn rigid when doing it

[Anonymous No.6993069]

What's the best site for moving a 3d human around and adding/removing layers to see how it adds up? Will I have to pirate something? I feel like this could aid my understanding

[Anonymous No.6993071]

>>6993055
exaggerate

[Anonymous No.6993129]

>>6992053
>be the most narcissistic anon in the thread
>get ignored
ftfy

[Anonymous No.6993133]

>>6993055
Don't try to be exact, look at the form, internalise how it feels, draw that feeling from your shoulder in one quick motion.

[Anonymous No.6993134]

>>6992538
Nice studies

[Anonymous No.6993137]

>>6993069
https://www.zygotebody.com/#
I got this, hope it helps.

[Anonymous No.6993161]

>>6992030
Made this on paper in 15 min., then increased contrast to max in order to make it visible
any suggestion?
(hardmode: no boxes or costruction shit, pls)

[Anonymous No.6993166]

Hello /beg/, back again this time with some dudes. Planning on studying some actual anatomy soon.
>>6992320
I like your redraw of top left's body better than the reference. The other ones could use better attention to detail. Line up your copy in front of the reference to see what was off about what you drew, then try and fix it.
>>6992323
I'm not sure what the benefits to simply drawing boxes is. Try applying perspective to a real piece such as a cityscape, you'll still be drawing boxes but with more attached.
>>6992352
I like it, personally I think more (fine) detail to the hair would elevate it.
>>6992397
Cool style, because the butterfly creature is small in the composition I would add less detail to have it read better, I'm having trouble interpreting its details/face looks messy.
>>6992402
Needs more contrast.
>>6992407
Rendering is nice, hands and feet need work. Don't hide that foot!
>>6992409
Excellent.
>>6992411
Your proportions need work. I recommend mirror flipping your drawings or using a grid until you get used to making things symmetrical. Do not blunderbuss the smiley.
>>6992464
Line work needs better consistency. Just a matter of more practice.
>>6992475
That hair is off to me. Muddy coloring and texture I think.
>>6992487
Some proportions are too wide I think ie neck, ribcage/pelvis since go hand in hand, waist. Makes head/shoulders feel frankensteined in. Linework is excellent however, face is cute. Draw foot coward.
>>6992498
Kawaii.
>>6992501
Nice. Keep at it.
>>6992538
Good studies.
>>6992611
>>6992640
I like it. I think you're on the right track. Things of note: shoulders are different lengths, try for cleaner more consistent linework ie hand, consider different rendering techniques on clothes to convey clothing texture, maybe more expressive eyes too.
>>6992667
I can feel you getting better every post.
>>6992669
Always like seeing your stuff. I did draw for the skull thread, I can probably draw some more for it later.

[Anonymous No.6993190]

>>6993047
I was in a group like that once, it was the kind where every drawing got comically long critiques so people who could already tell what was wrong themselves never even posted and just noted the advice others were getting.

[Anonymous No.6993204]

>>6992323
Middle and bottom set of boxes: None of the boxes seem to sit on the same surface, if they did, the VPs would fall on the same horizonline.
Some of them are fucked up (VP seems to be in front of the box instead of behind).

>>6992402
Great pose and sass, horrible brush texture. It feels like a grainy blur was applied to the whole image. Its also super bright except for the skirt, makes it hard to read the picture.
I would try adding more contrast by separating light and shadow more, and completely redo the edges - Make all edges hard and then sparingly add in the grainy texture.

>>6992538
Nice studies!! whats your process for studying full books? copy a few pages each day?

>>6992669
This is so good omg, much praise. The linework is amazing. My only critique after staring at it for a while is her ear looks funny.

>>6993055
Post a few gestures next to their pose ref, we'll try to help :)

[Anonymous No.6993209]

>>6992538
>>6992669
>>6993166
>>6993204
i've heard I need hard edges a lot im just not used to doing them. edgeless portraits seem to work for faces and heads but not so much for full figure i guess

[Anonymous No.6993236]

Gestures with times/durations included

[Anonymous No.6993249]

Secret /ASG/ playlist on how to copy anime

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC1w0JHZX_rhdv__lLHVhEoHb5j6LOvrD

[Anonymous No.6993252]

>>6993071
>>6993133
>>6993204
oh i guess i should have posted images haha
i stopped drawing in 2018 but decided to give it a shot last week, this time i want to try following the fundamentals/poses/etc instead of just doing whatever is on my mind and giving up, even if it frustrates me greatly because i can tell the anatomy is messed up and it looks too stiff

[Anonymous No.6993268]

>>6993252
that's why you start with gesture before any anatomy

[Anonymous No.6993270]

>>6993252
Don't copy real bodies first as beg try to find sketches from artists and copy that so you get a feeling on how they simplify stuff

[Anonymous No.6993273]

I have a secret to share with you. Don't fap and become religious. If you copy hot woman, you get way much out of it than the average coomer who faps 3 times a day. You will want to draw it perfectly. This is why artists from the rennaicance were so great, they never had time to fap because they lived in rooms with 5 other people. So the only way to release their sexual frustration was through art.

[Anonymous No.6993283]

>>6993273
> the average coomer who faps 3 times a day
Source. Also my fapping habits dropped drastically after leaving religion as I no longer felt shackled to mandates like no sex before marriage.

[Anonymous No.6993303]

>>6993252
Alright buddy, quit chicken scratching right now.
If you try to make your gestures look good they're gonna end up looking worse, use the fewest lines possible and make them long. Gesture drawings are meant to be quantity over quality so if it looks bad just keep moving to the next pose.
New mission:
>Get some real paper/pencil
>Go to line-of-action.com
>Do 30 second sketches for an hour straight
That is literally the only way you're gonna learn to stop drawing so stiffly

[Anonymous No.6993309]

[Anonymous No.6993317]

>>6993270
This is terrible advice, keep copying real bodies and get a feel with practice and slowly begin to create your own simplifications. Unless you want particular things from someone else's style copying real photos will always lead to better fundamentals/growth

>>6993252
Keep it up

[Anonymous No.6993318]

[Anonymous No.6993331]

looking for advice of how "closing" the beard here

[Anonymous No.6993337]

I'm back, with some skulls I drew for the skull thread and a belated Christmas present. Since Loomis link is dead in sticky, I've compiled a zip of the books it had.
>aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubWVkaWFmaXJlLmNvbS9maWxlLzhidGFpb3M3OXRlMTJudi9Mb29taXMuemlwL2ZpbGU=
Base 64 to dec*de.

>>6992702
Hmm, I recommend being as detailed with the clothes as you were with the face.
>>6992859
Looking good. Hands are a bit iffy.
>>6992970
Keep drawing, you're only starting out.
>>6992977
>do i try to copy them, do i try to implement what hes saying and showing into my own drawings
Both I'd say. If you don't have much time in the day or you're good enough to digest what he's drawing then just the second.
>>6992985
lel
>>6993003
Nice.
>>6993012
Feet on female look to be on different planes and either neck is too long or head too small or maybe both.
>>6993024
Those structures around the pillar need some work. Time to whip out the ruler and straightedge and a full sheet of paper. As for the hair issue I'd say try making your own character sheets but for hair, then compare and contrast the different styles and shapes they used. I'd also do something about your hand going numb. Are you gorilla gripping your pencils? Maybe change your grip.
>>6993027
Cute face, have you looked into doing finished lineart?
>>6993161
Take as much advice as you can, it's free you know? Try gesture drawing for less stiffness.
>>6993190
Damn those shoes are fire dawg
>>6993204
The composition of this little study sheet looks really neat, I thought it was an ad for a figure drawing course at first lol
>>6993209
Looks much better, I think you can push it further with detail and less fuzzy masses ie arms
>>6993236
Not sure how I feel about that chalky brush for your gestures, it worked fine in some areas but not in others
>>6993252
Like that anon said, more gesture and line confidence.
>>6993309
I look forward to these ngl
>>6993318
Good stuff.

[Anonymous No.6993342]

>>6993331
I recommend redrawing the whole beard desu, looks like the hairs are floating in a void

[Anonymous No.6993394]

I don't come here very often but I drew this for Christmas and I liked it a lot and I would like to hear any kind of criticism regarding it. Please tear it down if you want!

[Anonymous No.6993414]

>>6993303
thank you so much anon! i tried using as little lines as possible this time and changed the brush too, i did some and it already feels less stiff
i'd rather stick with digital, is it better to learn throught traditional?
>>6993317
>>6993337
thanks anons :)

[Anonymous No.6993423]

>>6993394
Merry Christmas Anon, it might be coom adjacent but your stuff is really solid, I think the weakest part is maybe the hands in perspective and some of the inner ear lines but honestly even that is not bad

[Anonymous No.6993431]

I didn’t draw today. This remains your fault.

[Anonymous No.6993444]

>>6993431
pyw or
shut up you permabeg nodraw lazyass fuck

[Anonymous No.6993445]

>>6993414
Huge improvement! These are what you're looking for in gestures!
To answer your question, digital is great for making polished work and more detailed studies, but you'll find pencil (or better yet charcoal) will give you a ton more agility and speed when doing gesture practice, and as I'm sure you've already noticed speed is king when practicing. You can throw down gradients really quickly with picrel grips which'll give your gestures more depth.

[Anonymous No.6993471]

>>6993444
How can I PYW when I have no W to P? Are you seriously too fucking stupid to understand that if I didn’t draw I won’t have a drawing? Are you a nigger?

[Anonymous No.6993489]

>>6993471
>never drawn anything
If you haven't begun stay out of the beginner thread you fuckin loser

[Anonymous No.6993491]

>>6993394
Merry Christmas! Right has different length upper arms. Just a small detail I noticed, you're already really good!

[Anonymous No.6993505]

What should I do? I try to look at form and I try to study it but nothing sticks,

[Anonymous No.6993510]

>>6993505
draw your reference upside down to unlearn symbol drawing

[Anonymous No.6993514]

>>6993489
Shut up, monkey.

[Anonymous No.6993522]

forgive my laziness crabgods

[Anonymous No.6993529]

>>6991438
This was yesterday, again trying to be able to get out a sketch quickly within 2 hours
Doesn't look any better but I'm noticing the paint points of where I'm getting stuck

[Anonymous No.6993530]

>>6993529
This was today, gave up on my crappy OC
I'm losing a lot of time on imagining what I want to draw, but I guess that's a muscle that needs to train as well
Didn't even get to coloring within 2 hours though...

[Anonymous No.6993533]

>>6992669
What brush are you using for the red? Like the 'fuzzy' effect it gives the linework. Great sense of forms, too, by the way.

[Anonymous No.6993535]

>>6992611
>>6992640
im getting disney princess vibes from this arona lol

[Anonymous No.6993539]

>>6993342
i see it now, ty

[Anonymous No.6993556]

>Pawell has not posted in a long time
He probably died in a car accident, or got stabbed in whatever Eastern European shithole he is living in. It's over bros, we should give up drawing till its not too late, without his advice we will NGMI.

[Anonymous No.6993589]

>>6993445
The gesture grip is the best, I love sketching like that.
Too bad that I can only use the worst grip for my Wacom tablet, the one on the top left. Holding pencil above that makes it very inaccurate.

[Anonymous No.6993595]

>>6993342
i think now's better

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[Anonymous No.6993601]

>>6993510
I didn’t use a reference though

[Anonymous No.6993609]

Hoping to call it done and have moved on to roughing in clothes.

>>6992538
>Her hips seem lopsided
>Her
But yeah that's definitely the case.
Also nice feet. I need to do my studies.

>>6992669
>can confirm heads do make bodies look not weird lol
Strange that, isn't it?
Good stuff. Do you have a blog?

>>6993166
>I think ie neck, ribcage/pelvis since go hand in hand, waist.
Yeah a friend did a redline for me and I saw how off it was looking.
>Makes head/shoulders feel frankensteined in
They kind of were. I used ref for the torso and arms but everything else was imagination so that's probably some of the issue.
> Linework is excellent however, face is cute.
Thank you anon!
>Draw foot coward.
Post ref.

>>6992660
>>6992859
>>6993190
>>6993270
>>6993394
>>6993600
Looking good bros!

[Anonymous No.6993614]

Finally done :D

[Anonymous No.6993642]

if you're trying to draw a specific cartoon/anime character what's the best kind of reference to use? probably art from the show or comic, right?

[Anonymous No.6993643]

[Anonymous No.6993651]

>>6993609
Good line art
but his thighs disappear when you put clothes on him

[Anonymous No.6993669]

anyone wants a redline?

[Anonymous No.6993670]

Morpho back studies/notes

[Anonymous No.6993671]

>>6993669
me >>6993003

[Anonymous No.6993672]

>>6993671
Okay, I'll give it a shot, it'll be a good challenge considering I'm not really better than you

[Anonymous No.6993673]

>>6992053
Color your shit nigger

[Anonymous No.6993680]

>>6993673
is that an example of a colored shit nigger?

[Anonymous No.6993685]

>>6993680
Schrödinger's Nigger

[Anonymous No.6993694]

>>6993337
>Feet on female look to be on different planes and either neck is too long or head too small or maybe both.
Alright thanks for the advice man, I see what you're saying.

[Anonymous No.6993698]

>>6992053
People will be harsh since you're being an attention whore but your shit is actually pretty solid, if you want (you)'s try helping other people as well as posting your work. Also the thread just started lol how can you expect people who are worse than you to give you feedback/advice?

[Anonymous No.6993704]

i think the ear is too far away

[Anonymous No.6993715]

>>6992417
>>6992538
>>6993166
>>6993204
Thanks for the suggestions and advices! I have no idea drawing boxes could be this challenging. I will give some update if I felt there's an improvement with my skills.

[Anonymous No.6993717]

>>6993704
have you heard of our lord and savior?

[Anonymous No.6993724]

>>6993704
When looking straight ahead, the bottom of the ear is usually lined up with the bottom of the nose. Yours is falling down a bit. Top of the ear usually aligns with the eyebrows.

[Anonymous No.6993737]

>>6993704
I think you just need to move the ear up slightly, just in line with the brow and bottom of the nose more or less. Really nice drawing by the way. Love it!

[Anonymous No.6993756]

>47 artbooks
>still haven't completed a single one

[Anonymous No.6993758]

>>6993505
Eh, you're going for a cartoon look so for now find some cartoons you like and try to copy how they simplify people. Before you jump into anatomy and all that more advanced stuff I'd say learn what shapes and styles are appealing to you and try to replicate them.

[Anonymous No.6993763]

>>6993758
is the same true if you like an artist and you want to emulate their style or if you like the way an anime character is drawn, you try to copy that?

[Anonymous No.6993764]

>>6993763
Yeah early on I think it's totally acceptable practice to just try copying artists you like. At that point it'll probably be too advanced to try and understand WHY the artist drew things the way they did, but copying still gets your reps in and if all else fails you can show off to others that you can draw Peter Griffin or Goku whoever.

When I started drawing as a kid I'd go print out pictures of Goku and then just recreate them, without tracing. I did that so much I just memorized the shapes and style Toriyama had and could recreate those drawings from memory and even draw my own original DBZ pictures, but I had zero fundamentals so of course those drawings looked janky. Just being able to recreate a style or art piece is pretty motivating. It feels good and that helps keep you going.

[Anonymous No.6993772]

>>6993764
are you saying you should stop copying artists after a while? Me personally, I always wanted to draw stylized stuff. I never studied anatomy but I could copy real life pretty closely. The problem was It just came out too close to "real life" when I was trying to stylize

I still use other art and artists as reference but I try not to make it a blatant clone as much as I can. When I try to differentiate from the reference (of someones art) it usually looks like shit. Only one of my pieces came out decently when I free handed it

[Anonymous No.6993777]

So I tried to make an "energy-fied" and simplified version of the explosion on the right. It's meant to be a sort of magical bomb.

How's it look? Any feedback?

[Anonymous No.6993780]

>>6993777
its shit
its nothing basically
if this is something you have to put effort in you might be retarded

[Anonymous No.6993781]

>>6993780
I mean I mostly just draw a bunch of ellipses with some lines and fucked around with blurs and feathering

I'm kind of nervous to actually try and draw the explosion out, I'm worried I'll fuck it up along the way.

[Anonymous No.6993783]

>>6993781
>I'm worried I'll fuck it up along the way
you wouldnt if you actually sat down, read a book, and learned to draw.
if this is something youre interested in doing well then you have to learn it.
and there are no shortcuts.
even if its cartoon you have to learn to draw the real thing or it will never be good because cartoon is a stylisation of the real thing and how can you stylise something that you cant draw to begin with?

[Anonymous No.6993791]

hopefully next BFD reset the PuG I join will actually be capable of killing kelthis

[Anonymous No.6993794]

>>6993791
sorry the christmas stuff made me get my threads mixed up

[Anonymous No.6993796]

>>6993777
The only thing that kind of bugs me is the lighter portion being soft and blurry. But explosions can be difficult. I don't feel super confident drawing them myself.

[Anonymous No.6993797]

>>6993794
You should draw something to properly apologize, fren.

[Anonymous No.6993801]

>>6993783
you're right, there are no shortcuts

I'm going to try to follow the steps on the guide I saw

this is what I got so far, I think I'll have to spend more time on this instead of rushing to a shortcut

>>6993796
The guide I'm reading draws it as a directional explosion, I think I'll draw one of those before I try to draw a radial one

[Anonymous No.6993803]

>>6993797
how's that

[Anonymous No.6993805]

>>6993803
Great shape work, anon

[Anonymous No.6993807]

>>6993803
Perfect, don't forget to do your fundamentals every day from now on, and you'll get even better.

[Anonymous No.6993809]

>finally start drawing from shoulder
>shoulder pain after an hour

[Anonymous No.6993810]

>>6993803
I appreciate you

[Anonymous No.6993811]

>>6993772
Hmm... I think if you want to keep expanding your knowledge, then at some point you'll want to take a break from copying and do a deep dive into fundamentals and practice those, BUT copying/doing studies is always useful and actually becomes more beneficial later on. I just recommend beginner artists to not stress about fundamentals yet and just focus on drawing things they like, even if that's just copying. As long as you're copying to improve and not to steal from another artists for personal gain, you'll be alright.
And I'm right there with you about stylized art. That's what I want to do. I've got a folder with a bunch of stylish artists I like and what I do to practice now is draw something, but try to match their style. A pretty common one you'll see people do is copy Mike Mignola.
My biggest tips are to keep things as simple as you can and to start broad and then to add detail to that.

[Anonymous No.6993813]

>>6993801
That makes sense. Logically and stylistically you want it all emerging from a single point.
You might also pull up some videos of Smash Bros Ultimate, preferably someone in the training mode and then just pause during attacks. I think Smash has nice hit sparks/explosions.

[Anonymous No.6993818]

Do I have to finish all the exercises in Keys to Drawing before starting books on perspective and anatomy? I don't want to be totally lost, but I can feel only drawing what I "see" is reaching its limits

[Anonymous No.6993821]

>>6993651
>but his thighs disappear when you put clothes on him
Well, I mean, that's kind of what clothes do.

But seriously I get what you mean but I'm just not sure what the issue is. If I had to guess I would say it's the collar of the boots not wrapping around the form of the thigh correctly so that's where I'll start troubleshooting.

[Anonymous No.6993854]

Amazon sells these four panel sketchbooks with glossy covers. Here's an Archie script with Veronica written by Kathleen Webb and drawn by Dan Parent.

[Anonymous No.6993893]

>>6993854
just use a ruler

[Anonymous No.6993896]

I won’t be drawing today.

[Anonymous No.6993901]

>>6992164
Thanks satan

[Anonymous No.6993911]

Been trying new things lately and I haven't been feeling much progress but I'm still drawing for 1 hour a day so I suppose it's ok. I'm positively terrible at values though

[Anonymous No.6993920]

[Anonymous No.6993944]

>Sketch is better than the lineart
That demon is still after me... every damn day.

[Anonymous No.6993979]

>>6993337
I usually have the lines act as placeholders for color blocking the painting, finished lineart seems like a lot of work for things you are eventually gonna lose as you paint with the edges and stuff

[Anonymous No.6993980]

>>6993796
>>6993780
So I followed this guide:
https://medibangpaint.com/en/use/2022/08/how-to-draw-an-explosion/#How_to_draw_manga-style_explosions

Though I chose to color it with orange and red instead of black and white

How is it? Mine's is the coloured one on the right

[Anonymous No.6993981]

>Read Loomis once
>Can't call my stuff outsider art anymore

Reeeee

[Anonymous No.6993989]

>Kind of idealize female body because of all that animu shit
>Use real life reference
>Realize how dumpy females actually are if you're not referencing super models with filters
Kinda funny honestly

[Anonymous No.6993993]

>>6993989
>he hasn't taken the fat women pill yet

[Anonymous No.6993998]

>>6992164
Jokes on you. I listen to youtube podcasts so I can draw at the same time.
>>6993993
We talking a little chub on the cheeks like the ref or we talking whales? I don't mind the former but the latter makes me vomit a little.

[Anonymous No.6994003]

>>6993998
>a little chub on the cheeks like the ref
That's just normal asian girl anatomy, no?

[Anonymous No.6994005]

>>6994003
Correct. Baby face is best face.

[Anonymous No.6994007]

Trying to get into drawing backgrounds, that's my major goal for next year. I suck at values, so i decided to do a rough sketch to lay the values down.

[Anonymous No.6994009]

>>6993998
There is a middle ground between those two that is still attractive, I think. The evolutionary hold over to desire a women who is not totally gaunt

[Anonymous No.6994013]

>>6993818
yes, you should be able to intuitively make very accurate copies before moving onto persp or anatomy, so that you can focus more on the logic of what you copy. that said you can start on the fundies of each, gesture and boxes, and i don't think it'll take anything away from your current studies. just make sure you keep doing some ktd every day with those as bonuses if you're up to it, it's very worth it, just boring towards
the end. nice room draw

[Anonymous No.6994014]

MERRY SHITMAS

[Anonymous No.6994020]

All i could manage today. I'm down in a slump

[Anonymous No.6994024]

Any critique?

[Anonymous No.6994036]

>>6994024
I like the legs and the angling of the hips and shoulders, I want to try adding that to my figure drawings

Hands look a little off, but those are always really hard to draw. Especially in the position that pose is in.

I followed a guide to draw an explosion here, any critique for me?>>6993980

[Anonymous No.6994049]

>>6993893
save some of dad's old saws to line up a page.
#Lifehacks

[Anonymous No.6994051]

It's been months since I started these hour paintings and I feel like I barely made an improvement in how long it takes to make something presentable. This time I forwent construction or proper line work in favor of shapes since stopping to clean lines slow me down so much.

[Anonymous No.6994058]

>>6994051
It's kinda cute, but lacks something.

[Anonymous No.6994074]

>>6994058
Color

[Anonymous No.6994075]

>>6993337
>Time to whip out the ruler and straightedge and a full sheet of paper.
I thought we were supposed to learn to draw straight lines without rulers or something. Was I wrong about that?

[Anonymous No.6994078]

[Anonymous No.6994081]

>>6994074
Last time I jumped straight to color I got this abomination:
https://files.catbox.moe/cn0lmh.png

[Anonymous No.6994092]

Opinions?

[Anonymous No.6994098]

>>6993980
>>6994036
I don't know enough to give critique. I think it looks good, the shape is maybe too uniform. I would personally try to get a bit more contrast between the colours, maybe adding a third layer of a darker orange?
Don't really know what I'm talking about though, since I tried to do just that right now and failed, so feel free discard my opinion

[Anonymous No.6994104]

>>6994081
Doesn't look that bad. Too shiny maybe. Terrifying a little

[Anonymous No.6994154]

>>6994078
here is my opinion as a beg. I think you should simplify skirt. All the focus is drawn there. This brushwrok works for the hair you can clearly tell why. but for the dress it just results in random shapes that just distract. Also, her feet are need more detail, seems just low effort compared to other parts where its more of a minimal thing.

[Anonymous No.6994155]

>first sketchbook arrived one week and a half ago
>still can't bring myself to draw on it
c'est fini

[Anonymous No.6994157]

>>6994092
form thumbnail i thought that she looking at massive turd.

[Anonymous No.6994158]

>>6993758
Im that anon, but I really wanna do something partially cartoony but can also apply itself to action. Think of like Oda, Toriyama, Togashi, Wieringo etc.

[Anonymous No.6994159]

>>6994155
This is why my "sketchbook" consists a clipboard to hold whatever paper I'm using at the time. No pressure to make it look good.

[Anonymous No.6994161]

>>6994155
>order two
>leave one of them untouched on the shelf to satisfy my autism
>immediately scribble on a random page in the other
It's as simple as that

[Anonymous No.6994164]

>>6994159
i'm using printing paper

>>6994161
sketchbooks are kinda expensive in my country, I can't even buy moleskin like all the facy kids on youtube do, it is way way too expensive in my country

[Anonymous No.6994169]

>>6994164
>sketchbooks are kinda expensive in my country
I hear that. 30USD for an dinky 8X10 moleskin sketchbook where I live. Meanwhile I could get 5 reams of A4 printer paper for half the price.

[Anonymous No.6994171]

>>6993003
>>6993671
hope you like it

[Anonymous No.6994175]

>>6993423
>>6993491
>>6993609
Thanks a lot m8s. Personally I find some issues too with the hands but I think I ended up doing a good job overall. I like these PG-13 kind of spicy art. I could redo some things but I feel there are diminishing returns to refining it more. Have a merry christmas and happy new year too!

>>6994164
I would just use some printer paper or something. At my office work I do a lot of shitty doodles in printer paper and it does keep me sharp and more relaxed about drawing.
It's better to draw than not draw at all. It doesn't have to be perfect or fancy, it just has to be

[Anonymous No.6994185]

>>6994169
Well, to put in perspective, the sketchbook you mentioned is 15% of the minimum wage of my country

[Anonymous No.6994188]

>>6994185
Per what, day? Week?

[Anonymous No.6994190]

>>6994188
Month

[Anonymous No.6994197]

>>6994075
No reason you can't do both. Real perspective is basically math tho, you're gonna want to be as accurate as possible or it's gonna look crooked and skewed. After you get the guidelines down you can try and go over the final outline freehand to practice if you wish.
Also, take all advice you get with a grain of salt anon, we all learn differently. Some people can draw straight lines with their eyes closed, others use rulers. Both have most likely made art you like. It's all a matter of what works for YOU, and that means trying all sorts of things.

[Anonymous No.6994206]

if i want mainly aniem styled drawings what books should i read

[Anonymous No.6994208]

>>6994206
anime style is just simplified "realistic" drawings, if you don't use the same fundamentals your art will look fucked up, there's no scape

[Anonymous No.6994215]

>>6994206
watch this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd9r0sI1FYQ

[Anonymous No.6994227]

>>6994171
this looks real good thanks anon!

[Anonymous No.6994234]

>>6994078
ssj3 x tango x le petite prince

[Anonymous No.6994236]

>>6994215
>>6994208
>he thinks japanese mangaka study realistic

[Anonymous No.6994237]

i think i reached yet another comfort zone, i dont like what i do, drawing characters bending forwards is really hard for me, like this, i think i fucked up really bad.
also any anatomy or structure critique is highly encouraged.

[Anonymous No.6994238]

>been drawing legs all week
>get pretty decent at drawing legs
>decide to draw something in the morning "from imagination"
>admittedly its not completely related to anatomy and has some extreme perspective but whatever
>completely shit the bed and spend 40 minutes making something completely shit.
i feel like i'm developing specific skills well but i'm not developing the connections and underlining principles of good drawfaggotry. how make brain work good?

[Anonymous No.6994241]

>>6994236
did you watch the video? there are landmarks that need to be respected otherwise you end up with chris chan drawings, every mangaka knows this

[Anonymous No.6994247]

trying to learn to render but i dont want to fuck this up lol
it got a little compressed cause jpg

[Anonymous No.6994249]

>>6994247
nvm got SUPER compressed cause of jpg wtf

[Anonymous No.6994277]

I wish I wasn't a FUCKING ZOOMER who can't spend more than a few minutes on the same drawing

[Anonymous No.6994283]

Today I will not draw either.

[Anonymous No.6994284]

Had a somewhat lengthy (around 2 weeks or so?) break from drawing due to feeling bleh during the winter, and now really want to get back into things so I can actually draw people easily on a whim hopefully within a month...

However my main obstacle seems to be a fear of...I dunno I guess messing up a drawing? Like I'll construct the character but then suddenly the arms/hands will start to look really off and I'll end up just giving up and getting demoralized or something.

Plus I am about to start a long term animation project in Blender, which by long term I mean a long period of test animations before I make an animated short. So I feel like I am trying not to burn myself out with too much all at once but it's very difficult to not feel overwhelmed.

I barely did any 3D animation this year and it was because I kept getting distracted, drawing being one of them. But I REALLY want to get better at drawing cuz it does actually make me feel better mentally and it's just a useful skill to have that people could potentially pay me to do (this isn't the only reason I am doing it of course...but that's always a bonus). Plus it's VERY useful for 3D animation because I can draw clear storyboards that'll mean I won't need to pay someone to storyboard for my animation projects.

Anyway, what advice do you guys have regarding getting over the fear of drawing something crappy? If I feel okay tomorrow I'll try drawing Maria Amino (I was that guy who tried drawing her a while back, and I remember one of the critique sketches I got that showed where I went wrong got featured in a /beg/ op image) perhaps or maybe draw people from real life references (I know how to do construction but just need more practice with it).

I also hate how soulless my sketchy lines look at the moment.

[Anonymous No.6994286]

>>6994247
Anon, label saves at multiple points throughout. That ay if you fuck something up, you can go back without going too far back.

[Anonymous No.6994333]

>>6994277
just uninstall tiktok lil zoomie, start reading books that trains your attentio span, I think.

[Anonymous No.6994415]

Hey /beg/, been a while. Hope you all had a nice Christmas. I got sick of figure practice so haven't drawn in weeks. Crits always welcome.
I feel like drawing cyborgs for a while. Where would you go looking for references for that kind of thing? Artstation/Pinterest?

>>6994277
Draw multiple things at once and keep switching between them.

[Anonymous No.6994419]

>>6994284
What got over my fear of drawing bad things is to

1. Accept that you will always draw bad things. No matter how hard you work or how great your art ends up being, you will always make mistakes. Don’t fret over the quality of your drawings, just keep going and value the process above all else

2. Remember it isn’t the last thing you’re drawing. Plenty more are to come, and you can always correct mistakes once a drawing is done to see what you should work on.

3. Don’t attach yourself or your ego to your art.

4. Finished> perfect

5. Make art on something impermanent like a whiteboard or a chalk board. This will lead to you becoming less attached to what you draw since they’re so easily erasable.

[Anonymous No.6994420]

>>6994284
Also lol at the correction getting featured in a beg op image. This correction I made did as well. I didn’t take it hard though, I just took it as a sign that I still have a long way to go. Try to keep an improvement attitude, no matter what critique you receive or how your art is perceived, and you’ll make it

[Anonymous No.6994422]

Sup beg, i am back with my retarded figures. Radio said to do something different on hoolidays so i decided to simply not draw. Lmao.

>>6990109
>Whats your goal for next year as an artist? where do you see yourself skill wise?
Looking at my horrific slow and stagnant figure drawing i guess i will keep producing shitty figures until 2025. Feels permabeg
>>6994284
think less, draw more
>>6994206
fundies are all the same no matter what media or stylization, but if you really insist then
https://www.goodreads.com/series/84868-how-to-draw-manga-sketching-manga-style
>>6994092
inconsistent shading on drapery made her torso look completely flat
>>6994078
surprisingly appealing despite how simple it is. i kneel
>>6994024
i like that light play on left leg. the rest looks unfinished due to incomplete shading
>>6994014
very cool
>>6994007
pro perspective tip: abuse every single trick to add extra depth. foreshortening: make some sunflowers bellow eye level so you can draw a few smaller ones behind them. overlapping: put some large sunflowers in front of camera, obscuring part of the figure
>>6993818
keys to drawing has whole chapter about perspective
>>6993643
bad value range
>>6993556
kek. also all my "advice" is from art books, just do the same books and i will become redundant
>>6993505
if you cant feel the form i suggest eviston: art and science of drawing
>>6993273
>only way to release their sexual frustration was through art.
or they had sex with the other 5 people in the same room... or had sex with the prostitutes they frequently hired for posing
>>6993027
congrats, you turned her from alien into human like being
>>6992970
you need to read perspective made easy
>>6992924
i got that occasionally too. my cope is that pain = frustration = struggle = improvement
>>6992672
the grip is only good for angled big canvas imho
>>6992584
you can draw subjects you like and still do the exercises on them

[Anonymous No.6994429]

>>6994238
No shame in relying on ref, even industry pros have fattie reference folders that they lean on.
That said, if you want to develop your freedrawing skills, contour studies (drawing lineart from photo ref with zero sketch/construction) can help you with eyeballing proportions, and doing memory studies will give your brain a full body workout.

[Anonymous No.6994432]

Ohayo, I tried for some trad perspective practice. It's tedious but has satisfying results. Ngl I got lost in the lines a few times. Still drawing whatever, my main goal right now is to get a groove going.

>>6993505
Redraw the jacket, you overdrew it without understanding clothing. He's a geometric character, the jacket should be too.
>>6993522
Crabs are lesser demons more than anything. Looking good.
>>6993529
>>6993530
It takes mileage to draw well quickly. Your main priority should be quality over speed, the latter comes in time.
>>6993600
Why'd you draw this picture of me.
>>6993614
John Wilkes Booth has never looked so cute.
>>6993642
If you want him to look original source accurate then yeah.
>>6993643
She's FLAT. The colors I mean, try adding more contrast.
>>6993670
Nice studies.
>>6993704
Careful around that cheek and chin, looks like she has herpes perhaps.
>>6993803
Saved.
>>6993818
Perspective's pretty simple so you could probably dip your toes into that.
>>6993911
One day at a time.
>>6993920
He looks a little crosseyed.
>>6993980
I think your shapes may be too uniform and oval-like compared to the reference. They look like phoenix feathers rather than explosion clouds. That's just me being pedantic tho, the average joe wouldn't bat an eye at yours, it looks really cool as is.
>>6994007
Looks cute. Is she on her tip toes?
>>6994014
All I want for Christmas is Buu. Looks sick.
>>6994020
It's not a bad idea to take a break.
>>6994024
Your proportions look off ie arm length, just keep practicing and it'll get there.
>>6994051
Her hair's about to tip her over.
>>6994078
I completely disagree with the other guy, dress looks good, the brushstrokes nicely accentuate her figure. The hair could benefit from thinner longer strokes however.
>>6994092
Needs a background, make a more creative composition.
>>6994171
Basado.

[Anonymous No.6994438]

>>6993309

[Anonymous No.6994442]

>>6994432
Great fucking job, any guide or help so I can do something similar? Are you just making random vanishing points and going from there, or is it more complex than that?

[Anonymous No.6994456]

>>6994432
>>6994098
>I don't know enough to give critique. I think it looks good, the shape is maybe too uniform.
>I think your shapes may be too uniform and oval-like compared to the reference. They look like phoenix feathers rather than explosion clouds. That's just me being pedantic tho, the average joe wouldn't bat an eye at yours, it looks really cool as is.
thanks for the feedback

yeah I do notice it does look a little oval-like. The drawing guide mentions using multiple ellipses as a reference but I think I followed the lines a bit too much, I think I'll take another crack at it with a bit more deviation

[Anonymous No.6994459]

I'm part of this discord server that's dyin, we do magmas like once a week. Anyone want to join and resuscitate the place?

[Anonymous No.6994474]

Someone should make a new thread. Not me, though. I don’t draw anymore.

[Anonymous No.6994477]

>>6994432
you sure?

[Anonymous No.6994480]

>>6994442
There's not much to what I did, no guide used. I just saw some cool images on bing like pic related and took a jab at it. Here's some tips tho.
>Use big paper
>Tape paper down to table parallel to its edge closest to you
>Ensure your tools are perfectly straight
>To find the center point of any rectangular plane in perspective, draw corner to corner and where they meet is the exact middle
>Watch any perspective video for further tips and help
I didn't use a t-square but it would have greatly helped.

[Anonymous No.6994495]

>>6994477
>E-eh????? Baka President-sama!

[Anonymous No.6994496]

I drew 4 hands today.

[Anonymous No.6994523]

>>6994459
What's a magma?

[Anonymous No.6994525]

>>6994495
>"I-Im so nervous, my hands are shaking, maybe i should drop the gu- "
*Gunshot*

[Anonymous No.6994526]

>>6994523
shared canvas kinda thing
https://magma.com/

[Anonymous No.6994536]

>>6994525
>Mrs Lincoln stands up
>"ZA WARUDO"
heh, nothing personnel kid

[Anonymous No.6994571]

>>6994480
Thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.6994602]

>vilppu says you should memorize the form then make the gesture really fast
>try to do this for his example sketches
>every time I try the angles are wrong
What's the fix?

[Anonymous No.6994607]

only replies I got was from mass reply nibbas. Thats IT, im DONE with this failed general. im joining a DISCORD

[Anonymous No.6994641]

+

[Anonymous No.6994645]

It is okay to not draw. It is okay to keep fantasizing about your dream. It will stay there, waiting for you. The real you is asleep. You have all the time in the world.

[Anonymous No.6994661]

>>6994641
i really like this
how do you figure out what values to use desu

[Anonymous No.6994715]

beginner to both drawing and /ic/ and wanted to get thoughts on this. drew it after seeing what nerves look like and thought they looked interesting as fuck.

[Anonymous No.6994726]

Is studying the Famous Artist course too advanced for a beg like me? This is the result of practicing it for a week in chapter 2.

[Anonymous No.6994732]

Did some face/ eye stuff today and im actually really happy with how these turned out. Aside from the bottom left ones eyes being a touch too small I can tell ive improved since I started.

[Anonymous No.6994733]

>>6994732
Also did some gesture stuff since I was getting a headache

[Anonymous No.6994746]

>>6993134
>>6993166
Thanks, frens
>>6993204
Thank you! I try to be accurate, & I’ll sometimes draw it from a different angle or from memory or from imagination, to make sure it sinks in. I don’t try to make a copy of the ref, but rather try to analyze & reverse engineer, to internalize the forms & shapes. I don’t do anything special other than just drawing from the book as much as I can.
The shadow in your ref matches the lighting. The shadow you drew going left doesn’t match the light. It should be cast to the right. Beautiful study tho
>>6993715
Yeah drawing is hard
>>6993003
Same
>>6993024
Try the GMB wrist cheat sheet to help your hands. Solo boxes are ok to do
>>6993166
These don’t look bad. Just need gesture mileage. I recommend Hampton and Morpho.
>>6993190
Perspective needs work, the mech and those shoes are fucking sweet
>>6993209
>edgeless
If you mean lineless, that’s fine. I don;t understand how it’s possible to paint or draw without edges at all, though. I think you need to look up shadows shapes and soft vs hard edges. Looks better now, good job
>>6993236
Neat
>>6993318
Great lighting in her iris
>>6993337
Nice bones!
>>6993394
>>6993394
Hands are a bit big, esp. on the little one
>>6993505
First, learn observation from Betty Edwards or Proko or Eviston. Learning to see is step zero
>>6993600
Always lovely
>>6993609
>>her
My bad lol
>>6993670
Based, avoid chicken scratching
>>6993920
Nice hair!
>>6994014
I kneel
>>6994020
Good job
>>6994024
Just need more drawing mileage
>>6994237
This looks perfectly fine except her boobs should deform from the squeeze, the line connecting the jaw/chin of the milker to the sideboob of the milkee makes no sense, & milk isn’t thick like cum
>>6994238
Practice. Also redrawing studies from memory & rotating them
>>6994277
Nice shapes & gesture
>>6994415
Idk about refs but these look cool
>>6994432
NICE
>>6994602
Train observation. Drawing what you see (not what you think you see) is step zero
>>6994641
GMI

[Anonymous No.6994800]

I'm merely an ok doodler, is proko fundies course better to start with than his figure drawing one?

[Anonymous No.6994802]

>>6994800
yeah you'd be better off starting with his basics/fundamentals course.

[Anonymous No.6994823]

decided to try my hand at a more circular explosion, reference is on the left and my own is on the right

how's it look? I added some gradients so it gets darker toward the outside of the explosion

[Anonymous No.6994832]

>>6994823
i think you can distribute the spikes better, it feels too uniform atm

[Anonymous No.6994852]

>>6994832
Uniform as in a bit too evenly spread?

[Anonymous No.6994868]

>>6994852
yeah

[Anonymous No.6994887]

>>6994420
THAT IS the correction I was referring to!

I hope I can share a new pic of her soonish that'll be closer to the quality of yours.

[Anonymous No.6994901]

tried making a simple pencil landscape with the Reilly method
but when i started with the leaves i used a completely wrong approach, im doing a second attempt now with a good approach

[Anonymous No.6994965]

>>6994962>>6994962>>6994962

>>6994962

[Anonymous No.6995154]

>>6994868
Fair enough, looking at it now yeah I realize I went a bit formulaic in placing them

[Anonymous No.6995479]

>>6992030
Gestures seem to make sense when I watch others do it, but when I try to put it into practice, I get picrel (5 minutes each). I'm trying to follow Hampton's figure drawing books and videos but I'm just not getting it. What am I missing here?

From what I "know", I need to:
>start with the head, then work the way down the spine, then build the torso from that. The legs and arms come last and any remaining time is where you can add more form with wrapping lines.
>go fast
>not worry about the smaller details
>use as few lines as possible
>use wrapping lines to show form
>I, S, C lines
>try to push the pose where possible

[Anonymous No.6996437]