/dtg/ - Drawing Tablet General

[Anonymous No.6990476]

Why you should not trust youtube shills:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH1WEYF8rlA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twy5Wo8m284

Do not read anything into pressure levels. 1024 is more than enough.
If you have any additional questions, ask them.
Remember to ignore all chinese shills.

Recommended tablets:

>Screenless:
Intuos 3, 4, 5, Pro, One by Wacom

>Display:
Small (10-11"): Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 Lite
Medium (12-16"): Samsung Galaxy Tab S8/S9 Ultra, used iPad Pro 12.9"
Large (22"+): Cintiq 22HD, Cintiq Pro 27 - Make sure they have VESA standard mounting holes.

>Avoid:
>XP-Pen, Huion, Gaomon and every other Chinese brand making Wacom imitations
Poor build quality, pens with wavy lines, wobbly nibs, broken tilt, issues registering light pressure, terrible customer support, uncalibrated. All Chinese brands have the same problems. Check out the webm to understand how bad they are.
Do not be fooled by myths like "Chink companies are just as good as Wacom now" - they've been saying this for over 8 years, nothing has changed. Consider reading the amazon reviews, particularly the negative spectrum and you will find some very common themes.
Chinese companies have also been proven to shill on 4chan. You will see dozens upon dozens of posts in this thread by a chinese schizo shill, who will either be bitching about the OP, gaslighting as a Wacom fan, making pointless spam posts or giving terrible advice (like recommending Huion). Just ignore and report him.

>Microsoft Surface Pro
More optimized for palm rejection than good quality drawing. Wobbly lines when drawing slow and straight.

>Cintiq 13-16"
Completely outclassed by the Galaxy Tab Ultra & iPad

>Cintiq Pro 16, 24, 32
Overpriced, QC issues, loud fans, proprietary mount interface

>Lenovo
Worse than Samsung in every way.

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[Anonymous No.6990487]

>>6990476
>Check out the webm to understand how bad they are

[Anonymous No.6990495]

1tb 3rd Gen iPad or $200 more for a 128gb 5th Gen iPad for drawing?

[Anonymous No.6990542]

>>6990476
Reminder that Huion is subsidised by the CCP to bring you the best value tablets to ever exist

[Anonymous No.6990562]

>>6990542
I'll be looking for alternatives to Surface Pro with its Israeli n-trig pen tech

[Anonymous No.6990572]

>>6990476
You have no family and friends.

[Anonymous No.6990588]

>>6990487

Fixed:

https://youtu.be/uC3ZHroezM0?si=xoukulsW79uovnOe

[Anonymous No.6990790]

really chang? bumping your thread already?

[Anonymous No.6990873]

I've only used a Cintiq 13HD and it's so laggy, when you move the pen you can see the cursor a good 1 inch behind and this is just on Windows. If you have SAI set the stabilizer to S1-S3 and it's like painting like that.
As for parallax it's a non-issue when you calibrate, you can have the cursor anywhere, I like to set it so it's in front of the pen nib, so don't click right on the center of the crosses unless you want the cursor behind the nib.

[Anonymous No.6990882]

>>6990476
do you guys think the s9 outclasses the ipad pro in terms of drawing experience? I know samsung outclasses apple easily in the os/software side due to android, but the hardware appears similar and I'm not too sure about how it actually feels to draw on either. thanks. I use a cintiq 22 btw so something similar to that would be nice. merry christmas.

[Anonymous No.6990883]

>>6990873
>200 px brush
bruh

[Anonymous No.6990892]

>>6990882
It's bigger and has far better pen options (rubber nibs, you can use literally any Wacom pen instead of the S Pen too)
iPads are almost only accidentally good for art, all thanks to Procreate being as good as it is and the sheer proliferation of them meanwhile apple is ambivalent at best when it comes to their artist userbase

[Anonymous No.6990927]

>>6990892
thanks. definetly going to be getting an s9 now, was already going so since I use csp and i'd figure ill just find an android crack for it

[Anonymous No.6990940]

>>6990927
you're not gonna find a way to crack CSP on android at this time, it's pure subscription with periodic license checks on there
the good news is that they have multiple sales a year and you can get an annual sub for $10 during those times which is well worth it

[Anonymous No.6990962]

>>6990940
oh alr. good to know and thanks.

[Anonymous No.6990993]

>>6990883
It will even lag moving the Windows cursor let alone a brush with various features.

[Anonymous No.6991027]

>>6990962
also forgot to mention if you end up buying a galaxy tablet you can get 6 months for free

[Anonymous No.6991098]

>>6990562
>I'll be looking for alternatives to Surface Pro
huion studio 16 is literally just a surface pro but designed for artists.

[Anonymous No.6991164]

>>6991098
at that point might as well get an S8/S9 Ultra for cheaper unless you really need something specific you can only use on windows

[Anonymous No.6991186]

>>6991164
>at that point might as well get an S8/S9 Ultra for cheaper
I'm curious how the fuck that made sense to you.

[Anonymous No.6991195]

>>6990476
I got a kamvas 22 (2019) since it was on sale for dirt cheap and so far it's great except the durability of the default PW517 nibs with the matte screen sucks massive dick despite using bare minimum pressure. Does anyone know of any better aftermarket nibs?

[Anonymous No.6991216]

>>6991186
the studio 16 costs $1500 discounted

[Anonymous No.6991249]

>>6991216
and it's an actual drawing tablet instead of a tablet meant for netflix and porn that you happen to be able to draw on.

[Anonymous No.6991254]

>>6991249
>tablet that went out of its way to license wacom technology is less of a drawing tablet than a chinese wacom knockoff

[Anonymous No.6991270]

>>6991254
>to license wacom technology
do you have any idea how many companies have done that? old thinkpads licensed wacom technology, the original surface pro 1 and 2 licensed wacom, a lot of tablets with styluses license wacom because it makes more sense than developing their own shit. that doesn't make them all purpose built drawing devices though. I swear you see wacom and just cum your pants and stop reading any further.

[Anonymous No.6991291]

>>6991270
weird how they also include a 6 month CSP trial with all their tablets too haha definitely don't have drawing in mind

[Anonymous No.6991484]

Its not exactly a drawing tablet but my ladptop (asus flow x13) has a touch screen and came with a pen. i have a few questions :)
1) is it worth getting a better pen or is the (asus SA201-MPP2.0 ) good enough
2) i know it wont be amazing for drawing (i actulally have an xp-pen tab im going to sell but i didnt enjoy that, it was mainly for zbrush, not actually drawing), but whats some basic software for drawing that isnt super expensive? id prefer not to use krita because i have a personal dislike for it. would affinity be any good?

[Anonymous No.6991485]

>>6990487
Where is this from

[Anonymous No.6991622]

>>6990476
Is the Cintiq 27/22 Pro really that much better than the 24 Pro?

[Anonymous No.6991664]

>>6991484

Yes, to save you the trouble of what to do to make MPP 2.0 infinitely better:

Renaisser 530 is the best MPP stylus after trying the other pens. You can see line performance demonstrated in videos:

https://www.parkablogs.com/content/review-renaisser-raphael-530-stylus-microsoft-surface-tablets

The renaisser 530 uses surface nibs, so any nibs you find for surface will work for the stylus. I use the titanium tips on a paper-like matte screen protector on my Asus X16 Flow 2022.

[Anonymous No.6991670]

>>6991622
No. Anons who say otherwise are grappling with the reality of having spent a car downpayment on a drawing tablet.

[Anonymous No.6991675]

>>6991622

Get ready for the jet engine fan noises on the "premium" Wacom. https://youtu.be/nqkBQSBVcyA?si=KO2-tPCtNa9MaRt6

[Anonymous No.6991690]

>>6991675
I use headphones so...

>>6991670
Explain

[Anonymous No.6991721]

>>6990476
I'm considering going Ishill pro 12'9 but I have a few questions
- Is 12'9 that large ? I mean for this jewery of a price should I just go 22'
- Is the glassy screen texture easily fixable ? I know there are sticky things you can apply on the screen that have this paperlike texture, is it a scam
Thank you !!

[Anonymous No.6991723]

>>6991721
screen protectors help, but they still don't feel that good compared to tablets that use etched glass.

[Anonymous No.6991731]

>>6991723
I see, the issue is that im a nigger at drawing with screenless tablets, are there any good display ones with etched glass ? I don't find many in OP's guide

[Anonymous No.6991759]

>>6991731
>I don't find many in OP's guide
because he doesn't draw and doesn't know what features are actually useful for a drawing tablet. you're better off using the actual /dtg/ than this one if you want information.
every kamvas plus/pro model, the 2nd gen xp pen artist pro 16, and every cintiq pro, depending on how much you want to spend.
if you mean specifically portable ones, the wacom mobilestudio pro and kamvas studio 16 have etched glass.

[Anonymous No.6991857]

>>6991759
You're a chinese loser though.

[Anonymous No.6991966]

chaaaaaaaang!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.6992198]

>>6991966
fuck please stop posting in the other thread I'm trying to enjoy chinese christmas

[Anonymous No.6992233]

>>6991664
>titanium tips
sorry if im dumb but doesnt that scratch the screen?

[Anonymous No.6992469]

>>6991485
?

[Anonymous No.6992638]

>>6992233

Only if you're not using a screen protector and only if the tip was sharp.

[l'Empereur des Tablettes No.6992967]

Will this finally measure up to the Wacom Intuos Large or will it be another disappointment like the XP-Pen Gen 2? Stay tuned!

[Anonymous No.6992989]

Is a wacom 16 tablet good?

[Anonymous No.6992997]

>>6992967
I looked up your faggy name on warosu. What makes the Deco Pro Gen 2 unusable exactly? I'd love to know, before I actually buy it.

[l'Empereur des Tablettes No.6993021]

>>6992997
Broken strokes are common, both in Linux and a fresh Windows install, with and without drivers.

[Anonymous No.6993050]

>>6993021

Commonly attributed to a pen issue which has been addressed. https://youtu.be/uC3ZHroezM0?si=uCHcvgQwiV0MZNOf

[Anonymous No.6993104]

Any case recommendations for a s6 Lite?

[l'Empereur des Tablettes No.6993106]

>>6993050
What do you mean has been addressed? According to this three year old video? The Gen 2 came out a few months ago and I just bought this thing two weeks ago. The Gen 2 represents an ideal for me in how a screen-free format tablet should be designed but I can't wish away the problems I experienced either unfortunately. Maybe next time! Now it's Huion's turn (once I get home from work, anyway).

[Anonymous No.6993174]

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[Anonymous No.6993271]

Anyone ever have problems with Huion pen button shortcuts getting stuck? For example, I set spacebar (move) as a command for the side button on the pen. 1/3 of the time pressing it when I let go it's still doing the spacebar move command. Does this seem like a problem with pen or drivers? Problem with windows?

I took the pen apart and cleaned everything. The solder looks fine and all. Very confused.

[Anonymous No.6993375]

>>6990476
>Recommended tablets:
>Screenless: Intuos 3, 4, 5, Pro, One by Wacom
>One by wacom
Is this a joke? I thought these threads didn't shill chink shit

[Anonymous No.6993409]

>>6993375
>I thought these threads didn't shill chink shit
wacom is made in china...

[Giovanni Giano No.6993433]

No major issues so far-but there is one thing-pretty impressed with the Inspiroy Giano at first glance overall. I think there may be a few straws I can grasp, however:

For one, at the very lightest pressure applications (I'm talking the weight of the stylus applying the pressure moreso than anything else) I'm getting inconsistent input, including no input at times. Not 100% sure I could honestly say this is a serious issue without further experimenting, but it is something, something that's caught me off guard in the process of drawing more than once. If my stylus is making contact with the tablet I feel like a mark should be being made. Instead, I'm getting input dropping in and out despite a very even-albeit very light-amount of pressure being applied. This does not seem to be alleviate with any of the pressure setting presets.

I'll have to give it more time to see if there's anything really worth complaining about/if there are any concerns with reliability. My first impressions are though that I may finally have something current to cautiously endorse alongside the Intuos 3, 4, 5 and Pro Large, but time will tell.

>>6993375
This actually. OP please remove that from the thread next time, as hard as you are on the Cintiqs the One by Wacom is like the modern Graphire 3

[Anonymous No.6993441]

>>6993433
You get two pressure points? Yellow and red, that's more than the crappy Wacom pressure adjustment.

[Anonymous No.6993633]

>>6993433
That's likely just Huion's initial activation force. It's not great. Supposedly the earlier pen tech version had a better IAF but with issues in other places, so the compromise they made moving forward was better consistency and quality with a worse IAF. Just in case though it might be worth reseating the nib to see if that helps any.

[Anonymous No.6993879]

Screen

[Anonymous No.6994043]

did someone say mumps?

[Anonymous No.6994352]

>>6994043
yeah

[Anonymous No.6994356]

>>6991664
>unironically linking to parkablogs as a source

have you seen that hamfisted fucker try draw? his blog is good to see flip throughs of art books but not for actual reviews or opinions

[Anonymous No.6994410]

Is a drawing tablet or pc a good way to learn how to draw if I want to draw digitally or is it always better to start with pen and paper?

[Giovanni Giano No.6994424]

>>6993633
I was pretty impressed with the original Giano. Though back then Huion's stylus sucked. It had a depleting battery (that later I was told was prone to permanent failure) and the nib recessed slightly into the barrel of the stylus which is super annoying (I've recently discovered that the basic Intuos do this as well and it just feels like shit). Still, I recommended it back then pretty vigorously, its large active area and smaller footprint made it an extremely decent tablet for the money despite what misgivings I knew it to have at the time (the batteries outright dying was something I was told later and I just shut up at that point). With this new one I think I'm prepared to say that the more obvious things I was most critical of have been addressed, by all appearances the [current year + 8] Giano is an efficient, intelligent design well worth the asking price. However:

The biggest issue is: will we be seeing Gianos lasting 10-20 years like we've seen Intuos 3s, 4s and 5s? That's something that's harder to predict with any certainty. You can get a Large Intuos 3, 4 or 5 in very good condition often at or below $200 as well. That said, from what I've experienced so far you could do worse. The creature comforts of Wacom's superior stylus technology or surface feel (if you like the rapidly deteriorating sandpaper they've been slathering over their tablets these days) is not worth the sacrifice of the smaller active area of any of their models apart from the Large from which it's more-or-less indistinguishable.

Unless I'm made aware of some colossal failure later, for now I'd say the Giano stands up really well to its peers in the format. If it catches fire or really starts acting up though I'll definitely post about it.

[Anonymous No.6994428]

>>6994356
that's true for almost every tech reviewer except ergojosh but idk if he even counts since he doesn't focus on the tech too much

[Anonymous No.6994539]

>>6994356

The only other option is paid youtube reviews and paid Amazon reviews. Take it or leave it.

[Anonymous No.6994601]

>>6994539
>every review is paid, no review anywhere ever is genuine
>unless it's by me of course.

[Giovanni Giano No.6994617]

>>6994410
I think that the best way to start is with a clipboard and some pencils (both wood and mechanical for inorganic subjects like vehicles or architecture) and a ream of inexpensive office paper. Get a book stand to hold physical books open or an old Windows RT tablet (they perform terribly but can stand vertically on their own and have a very beautiful screen-a great book reader). However, digital its own thing in a lot of ways and you should start as early as you can with that as well. Just don't jump into it with a bad tool that'll you'll be struggling with for the next ten years.

>>6994601
I'd disagree with that but I will say most are made out of ignorance. That's why you'll scarcely find a review less than 4.5+/5 stars on any given ecommerce site for any given drawing tablet. the One by Wacom (4.5/6 on Amazon, 7000+ reviews) is borderline unusable for even someone with 10 years experience in drawing. The no-draw normies who buy it and leave a review in the first five minutes will say otherwise though because they literally just don't know any better.

The tech reviewers too, the ones who quite obviously don't draw let alone draw well can't possibly have an opinion on these things that should be taken remotely seriously either. What are they reviewing? The buttons? Gee, thanks. These nerd grifters may be fine people in general, but their opinions are beyond worthless when it comes to this subject.

[Anonymous No.6994624]

>>6994617
>the One by Wacom (4.5/6 on Amazon, 7000+ reviews) is borderline unusable
What's wrong with it? I almost bought one last month.
The 3d sculptor Niko Naydenov recommended the medium-sized One by Wacom. But sculpting has lower tablet quality requirements and can be done even with a mouse (at the risk of RSI)

[Giovanni Giano No.6994629]

>>6994624
I'm only speaking from the experience of a 2D artist so I can't comment on what might suit your needs.

Speaking generally though, my whole thing is, a medium Intuos is pretty much on the low end of usability for an illustrator. A large-being close to a 1:1 active-area-to-screen ratio on laptop-sized monitors, is basically the "cintiq experience" with a different (better) ergonomic orientation. The fact you're not staring down the barrel of your stylus as it parallaxes its way across the screen stops to matter when what you're doing with your hand is reflected back to you by the screen so accurately.

Why do people recommend a medium over a small? Because they've never tried a large. The qualities that would make a medium more desirable than a small make the large even more so, but 99% of the time people simply lack the experience to reach that conclusion even if it should be plainly obvious.

[Anonymous No.6994742]

screens are everything, do not listen to non screen shills they are either lying to you or are genuine morons

[Anonymous No.6994929]

>>6990476
>Why you should not trust youtube shills:
>links youtube vídeos

[Anonymous No.6995142]

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[Anonymous No.6995274]

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[Anonymous No.6995292]

>>6995274
exellent not obvious bump because the other thread was above yours in catalog

[Anonymous No.6995296]

My Huion Kamvas 13 pen is, sometimes, drawing whilst hovering. I've narrowed this down to a problem with the EMR but I'm mostly shooting in the dark. The pen works perfectly when the board and EMR coil are removed from the pen but its not great for drawing. Anyone else solve this problem?

[Anonymous No.6995329]

>>6994424
my intuos 5 broke its usb port at the third year of almost no use , after intuos 4 wacum its fucking shit material,

[Anonymous No.6995837]

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[Anonymous No.6995839]

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[Anonymous No.6995860]

>>6995329
Intuos 4 is when the broken USB problems started, they apparently fixed it by putting a plastic clamp over the cable. Cintiq 13HD had the same exact faulty port flaw, they didn't put any clamp on the port connector to ease up the pressure on the PCB, in later models they had that plastic case door gimmick to avoid this issue.

I personally never had any Intuos 4 connector issues at all and it's by far my favorite model, the overlays also last ages, they'll start really rough like sandpaper then they'll get polished smooth with use. I have all the Intuos 4 models including the wireless.

[Anonymous No.6995886]

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[Anonymous No.6995891]

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[Anonymous No.6995895]

>>6995860
Hm

[Giovanni Giano No.6995901]

>>6995329
>>6995860
I'm not sure why they started doing the external usb cable thing to begin with, but I agree it is not only totally unnecessary but it's a serious point of failure. My Intuos 5's usb input dying is what preceded my return to the anarcho-primitivist tablet of choice the Intuos 3

>overlay
I don't like it. It becomes inconsistent in its wear, feels and looks gross. The 4 is the most durable of the "textured" models but it's still a problem, it's hard to find a used model from 4, 5 or Pro that isn't cratered. I used the Pro consistently for less than 5 days and it'd already started looking pretty well worn (I reiterate, use the paper clip if you got one for yours). The Giano as well; people have to realize that this isn't a feature, it's a planned obsolescence scheme, at one point they had a smooth cover for the Intuos Pro but they stopped stocking them because it works against their interests.

At least in the Intuos Pro's case you can replace the surface, but it's so expensive.

[Anonymous No.6995922]

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[Anonymous No.6995927]

>>6995839
>>6995891
>>6995895
>>6995922
>moooooom no one is posting in my thread :(

[Anonymous No.6995936]

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[Anonymous No.6995939]

Mooooooooooooom!!!!

[Anonymous No.6995973]

>>6995901
I don’t think it’s possible to simulate the drag from a pencil without something being damaged. If there is friction, there will be wear. Then again, I don’t know anything about material science.

[Giovanni Giano No.6996052]

>>6995973
No you're absolutely correct, the issue is-in my opinion-that it's not really necessary and has been a gimmick from the beginning. The 3 isn't indestructible, but with gentle use it can last years without developing a single blemish. I think that easily trumps the supposed "tactile parity" the newer models have with traditional media.

[Anonymous No.6996193]

>>6996052
>better drawing feel is a gimmick
I would say an everlasting nib that feels like shit is more of a gimmick.

[Anonymous No.6996338]

>>6996052
The old pre Intuos 4 overlays are the worst in terms of longevity, they'll develop these pits.

[Anonymous No.6996339]

>>6996338

[Giovanni Giano No.6996392]

>>6996338
>>6996339
This only happens to gorilla grippers, it may happen to people exerting average or below average pressure slowly over time-but in my case I've been drawing on mine/using mine in place of a mouse nearly every day for hours over the course of several years with no visible wear. In contrast, my Intuos Pro and Giano developed visible wear in moments. Not a huge fan of that. I have a roughed up 4 I can show as well, though you can also just check ebay for what those look like, finding one in great condition isn't nearly as easy as it is with a 3

[Anonymous No.6996768]

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[Anonymous No.6996782]

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[Anonymous No.6997036]

>>6996392
What about the Intuos Pro 2013?

[Anonymous No.6997582]

>>6993433
That's just how it is. There's a little safety margin that cuts off the minimal pressure, that's done to prevent a situation where a pen would always think that it's pressed.

You'll get used to it.

[Anonymous No.6997589]

>>6994629
>Why do people recommend a medium over a small? Because they've never tried a large. The qualities that would make a medium more desirable than a small make the large even more so, but 99% of the time people simply lack the experience to reach that conclusion even if it should be plainly obvious.

Autism opinion, you're projecting your personal preferences and difficulties on everybody else.

Large basically requires you to shoulder draw all the time while the medium forgives wrist-drawing most of the time. The people i know who used large either sold it for a medium or limited the active area to be smaller. Shoulder drawing is only relevant to the tradfags, if you're 100% digital there's no real reason to bother with it.

>A large-being close to a 1:1 active-area-to-screen ratio on laptop-sized monitors, is basically the "cintiq experience"

Not important. I'm using a medium with a 32" display just fine. it's simply a matter of being used to your ow setup. Hand eye coordination and all that it's like riding a bike, only feels awkward until it doesn't.

[Giovanni Giano No.6997634]

>spill a whole-ass can of diet soda on (one of) my Intuos 3(s) last night
>unplug it immediately and wipe it down (pic related)
>end up plugging it in a half hour later
>dead spots in the top right area of the tablet where the spill occurred
>IT'S OVER
>unplug it again
>go to sleep and wake up
>plug in again and it works fine
WE ARE SO BACK

>>6997036
I'm not sure, I have both but I haven't really tested that and the newer model side by side. The only appreciable difference, I suspect, would be the surface texture (I'd anticipate the older one to be slightly more durable, sticking with the historical pattern-but probably not by much) and also I'm pretty sure the stylus for it still has the normal nibs and not their weird new proprietary ones that they made up to help prevent people from buying repros and improvising their own too easily.

>>6997589
It's not a preference, it's reality. The movements in your wrist can only be so subtle and freeing them up as much as possible can only be a good thing. The larger surface allows for wrist movements just fine, but it also allows for the inclusion of elbow and shoulder movements for longer strokes just-as you noted-in trad (is trad-like supposed to be a bad thing now? lol). This idea that the Large is "too big" when it remains smaller than nearly every model of screen tablet is a silly meme. If anything they should be bigger; we need 16x11 these days to keep up with today's display sizes. A medium may be usable but you're doing a long term disservice to yourself when there's this better option available.

[Anonymous No.6997636]

>>6997634
you just lost what little credibility you had left you fat clumsy oaf

[Giovanni Giano No.6997650]

>>6997636
>standing desk
>extremely health/posture conscious
>fat
Nice try lad, and that's a statement I think is very often true-however! I only drink this stuff when I'm at my folks house, and for the record neither of them are fat either (mom has type 1 diabetes though)

[Anonymous No.6997658]

>>6990476
What storage space would you guys recommend for an Ipad Pro 12.9? I'm planning on saving up for one and will make that my main go-to for illustrating

[Anonymous No.6997738]

>>6997634
I'm currently drawing on a Samsung S7+ (13") as my main device and I only feel slightly cramped.

I'm unironically not sure whether I'm going to buy an S9 Ultra or a 20" display tablet for my PC. The PC has more software and features but the responsiveness, optimization and refinement are definitelly a mobile win, the software runs faster, there's no lag, the screen is amazing and the experience of actually seeing what you draw is so much nicer.

I unironacally dumped the PC for the experience of having the CSP run fast and without the screen tearing.

[Giovanni Giano No.6997756]

>>6997738
If you're going the screen route I think at some point you see diminishing returns with the size. When I was using the 27QHD briefly the enormity of it felt like it was kind of redundant, you just really can't focus on that much space at a time anyway. At least it feels like that. More recently I got a 12WX for nostalgia's sake as it was my first screen tablet (at under $100 I couldn't pass it up) and I do think something like that is just a little smaller than I'd like. With that in mind and your own experience I do think a 20" or so would be a good sweet spot. If you're having performance issues with PC I don't know, it sounds like you might want to upgrade if you can. If it's a known flaw with the tablet though I'd just run away from anything that has any kind of recurrent issue like that.

[Anonymous No.6997757]

>>6997658
Depends on what else you wanna do with the iPad, just drawing it'd take you years to fill up even the base 128gb variant but it can fill up very quickly if you put games and other stuff on it. Plus you get iCloud storage on top so you can always shuffle old files to the cloud or a computer if you're running out of space.
>>6997738
As a standalone tablet the ultra is amazing, I recently switched from the S7 FE as well and I can have a whole 6" phone's worth of space dedicated to references on the side while still keeping plenty of actual drawing space. With superdisplay you can connect and use it as a cintiq wirelessly with virtually no latency.
I'd recommend finding a way to see for yourself and compare physically before you buy either though.

[Anonymous No.6997801]

>>6990476
I'm surprised there isn't a Tablet Monitor section

>Tablet Display
Artisul

I don't know other similar Tablet displays

[Anonymous No.6997857]

Couldnt find a software specific thread so I'll ask here:
How do I measure the area of an object by it's alpha pixels? basically I have an irregular shaped cutout and I want to scale it so it's equally sized to a differently shaped irregular shaped area. Either in Inkscape or Krita.

[Anonymous No.6997902]

>>6990476

[Anonymous No.6997995]

my huion tablet gets disconnected unless i bend the cord in a specific way. this started maybe a few months into using it. its been 3 years now and otherwise it works so im not planning on replacing it anytime soon but god is it fucking annoying. im here just to rant

[Anonymous No.6998003]

>>6997995
bad 3 in 1 cable.

[Anonymous No.6998076]

>>6997801
>I'm surprised there isn't a Tablet Monitor section

The thread is ran by a schizophrenic who got banned from /g/ for hating on the aliexpress thread 4 years ago since then he monitored /ic/ each day bakes the thread first, then dumps the old thread to bumplimit all to make sure the real /ic/ users could never bake their own op.
The moderation is complacent with it.

Op himself is not an artist, never proven that he even has a laptop but he shills the ancient wacoms religiously same as the non-fucntioning autists shill the 20yo thinkpads and CRT monitors, it's an object of worship for them. No he doesn't actually draw.

So yeah there's no tablet monitor section because the shill controlling this thread is on his personal little war with China.

[Anonymous No.6998089]

>>6992997
I have the XLW as well and it works perfectly fine on my Windows/Linux and Mac laptops. He just should have RMA’d it or at least went through support.

[Anonymous No.6998132]

when are they gonna start making drawing tablets that are above 60hz? they keep shilling pressure levels which are like indistinguishable after 1000 levels, but hz are directly correlated to pen lag and they don't focus on that

[Giovanni Giano No.6998136]

>>6997995
Could be the input itself sadly, might be fixable but like anon said you could try a new cable first.

>>6998089
You've got all three and confirmed this? Not going to criticise you when I have my own tech hoard

>perfectly fine
Honestly the fast-acting "sleep mode" which there is no mechanical or software-side setting for that I was able to find (didn't look that hard admittedly) was already troublesome enough on its own without the stroke issue. The only way to avoid it would be to set my stylus down and pick it up every time I go to type something which sounds like a real pain in the ass. Will try and RMA it and will report back with results when possible.

>>6998076
>he shills the ancient wacoms religiously same as the non-fucntioning autists shill the 20yo thinkpads and CRT monitors

Not remotely the same thing.

OP's eccentricities aside I've already revealed the carefully guarded secret that the tech in the tablets themselves is identical and it's only superficial differences like hotkey layout, wireless functionality and surface feel that have changed (for the worse imho).

Reminder that feature and tech tables were a ubiquitous feature on Wacom's wiki page for nearly a decade up until just a week or so after I posted them in image form in this very thread. Could be a huge coincidence but it really happened.

Then:
https://web.archive.org/web/20210710235049/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wacom

Now:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wacom

[Anonymous No.6998145]

i've used an xppen artist pro 13, an ipad pro, one of those really tiny wacom screenless tablets, an xppen deco, a wacom intuos pro, an xppen deco gen 2, and the wacom cintiq 17 pro (the $2000 drawing tablet). I've used and bought them all in that order.

Just buy an Ipad if you're not super strapped for money. I really don't like iOS but it's a flawless experience drawing and I have 0 complaints other than I wish there were larger options, but if you like portability you won't care. If you are strapped for money, xppen stuff has never caused me any issues and it's actually been the wacom stuff that pisses me off all the time becuase it doesn't let me customize the pen buttons the way i want and the software is always finicky.

[Anonymous No.6998170]

>>6998145
i find it funny how there's a constant effort here to find the least shitty pen display or screenless tablets meanwhile people just pick up some shitty hand me down ipad and it's the perfect device and they never want to switch to anything except a bigger ipad

[Anonymous No.6998191]

Yeah they pretty much just werk which sounds retarded but I think for drawing it's really important to have a frictionless experience where you can just pick up the tablet and start drawing without worrying about anything else. It was kind of a love hate relationship at first when I got the Ipad because I hate iOS with a passion. I bought all those tablets after the Ipad specifically because I wanted to draw on something Windows and didn't want to use the Ipad, but literally nothing else I tried met the specs of the Ipad except the latest wacom which I bought but I really can't justify the price of when it's only slightly bigger than my Ipad but otherwise the same colors, a lower ppi, the same refresh rate and pen pressure feels the same but it's double the price of an Ipad, and it's JUST a monitor. Also I've gotten really used to touch controls and Windows touch controls are finicky as shit and constantly give me misreads even after changing to tablet mode in CSP and everything. I still hate iOS but I've spent so much money trying to replace the Ipad and now I'm just convinced I should just stick to Ipads. I just wish they made something more like the size of a mac you can draw on

[Anonymous No.6998195]

>>6998191
I will say though that there is one thing that bothers me other than size is that you can't make absolutely massive canvases without Procreate limiting the amount of layers you can do, but I have no idea if that's a Procreate problem only or other programs too. I have Art Studio Pro and CSP but I'm just drawn to Procreate even though ASP is objectively better. I like drawing on a 12000 x 9000px canvas which in Procreate will limit me to about 5 layers, which isn't much but I only really use this size of canvas for doodling so if I accidentally doodle something I like I can crop it and it'll still be around 4000 x 4000px which at that point will give me like 30-40 layers to use.

[Anonymous No.6998198]

>>6998195
csp technically has unlimited layers regardless of size but in procreate and other art programs it depends on RAM

[Giovanni Giano No.6998232]

If you have a very mobile lifestyle, spend lots of time on the buses and trains, in hotels etc. then I think that an ipad or similar is ok during those periods you aren't home. However, ultimately it's just another piece of screenslop that is causing untold long term trauma to your body and ought not represent the bulk of your drawing activity. Screen-Free Supremacy is the ultimate digital art redpill that so many find so hard to swallow. In the end though, my spirit will rise from grave with its perfect spinal s curve intact and the world will see that I was right.

[Anonymous No.6998248]

That's a problem for future me

[Anonymous No.6998284]

>>6998232
shut the fuck up holy fucking shit
your anti screen autism is by far the worst shit in these threads. please go on another many year break from here. no one will miss you at all.

[Anonymous No.6998554]

redpill me on huion please. it was a gift and i cant bring myself to hate on it

[Giovanni Giano No.6998566]

>>6998284
At least get a sense of humor about it like this guy >>6998248, I know your neck, shoulders and lumbar spine hurt, but I didn't think your butt would hurt this bad as well heh

>>6998554
If it's anything smaller than the Inspiroy 2L (10.5 x 6.5), QK11 v2 (11 x 6.875) or the Giano (13.6 x 8.5) you should bin it. It's the thought and intention of a gift that counts and if they knew any better one of those is what they'd have gotten you. The message they're sending with the gift is that they support your ambition, but from the outside they may not understand what makes a tool an adequate let alone desirable partner for the years ahead.

[Anonymous No.6998620]

>>6998284
>anti screen autism is by far the worst shit in these threads
are you sure?

[Anonymous No.6998655]

>>6997757
Hmm thanks for the info. I will probably get the 256 gb variant since I want a few apps and mainly art stuff/reference on it but no games.

[Anonymous No.6999127]

>>6990476
recently got a cintiq pro and it smudges very easily and Its hard to remove all the smudges, I tried microfiber cloth with electronics cleaning spray, sprayed onto the cloth. I tried a glass cleaning cloth.

[Anonymous No.6999138]

>>6999127
this is why i hate drawing tablets already coming with matte screens built into them. they're a bitch to clean and i'm already gonna put my own screen protector on it anyway because i'm gonna be afraid of scratching, so i'm forced to double up

[Anonymous No.6999140]

>>6999138
well I don't want to put a screen protector over the smudge. and they are like $40.

[Anonymous No.6999153]

>>6999138
>they're a bitch to clean
no they're not.
>>6999127
>>6999140
monitor cleaning spray is literally just 50/50 distilled water and rubbing alcohol.

[Anonymous No.6999162]

>>6999153
I have 99% rubbing alcohol I'm afraid to dilute it so I should order around 50%?

[Anonymous No.6999172]

>>6999162
>I'm afraid to dilute it
any particular reason why? you just do 50/50 mix by volume

[Anonymous No.6999174]

>>6999172
afraid it won't be diluted enough or too much water.
too much water can stain the screen, too little can cause damage. I've spent a lot of time trying to get the smudges out and some of them in the center stay.

[Anonymous No.6999189]

>>6999174
you're way too paranoid. go get a drawing glove and just use a monitor cleaning solution. it won't stain the screen.

[Anonymous No.6999196]

>>6999189
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B082XJJ8DS I used this and the smudges are still in the center, and I have been using the glove but it still smudges and the remote causes smudges too. I don't see anything because I work in the dark but I'm afraid the smudges will create friction and cause scratching.

[Anonymous No.6999218]

>>6999196
then just spray the shit directly on the screen. it's etched glass, not tissue paper.

[Anonymous No.6999232]

>>6999218
do you own a cintiq pro too?

[Anonymous No.6999336]

>>6990476
best drawing tablet is a used wacom intous 4 pro or up for 50bucks from some looser who bought it an never used it

[Anonymous No.6999337]

>>6999196
Don't spray anything. You should only clean screens with a damp, warm microfiber cloth. Alcohol can damage the LCD underneath if it seeps in. Just get drawing gloves

[Anonymous No.6999391]

>>6999337
I sometimes forget how fucking inept the average person is

[Anonymous No.6999455]

>>6999337
the gloves cause smudging too, am I the only one here with the cintiq pro?

[Anonymous No.6999459]

>>6999455
there's nothing unique about the cintique pro that would make it more prone to smudging. I think you're just a greaseball

[Anonymous No.6999473]

>>6999459
I wash and dry my hands before I put the drawing glove on. Maybe I need to buy more gloves so I can use a new one everytime I draw.

[Anonymous No.6999642]

Bought a galaxy fold to replace my ipad mini
It's actually not bad at all

[Anonymous No.6999782]

how good is sidecar right now

[Anonymous No.6999798]

is wacom one (with screen mirroring) good enough?
what app you niggas use btw on android and windows?

[Anonymous No.7000085]

>>6998232
Ergonomically, drawing on a tablet on a train is no different than drawing on paper on a train. I don't really know how you think people have been making art before decent tablets existed probably just 10 years ago

[Anonymous No.7000181]

>>7000085
he's retarded and thinks trad art is much different because he thinks you constantly have to move around to sharpen your pencil, step back 10 feet to look at your art, grab a new paint brush, etc.
he doesn't realize no matter what type of medium you use, you're stationary a vast majority of the time.

next watch him say that no one actually has an ergonomic set up because he googled drawing tablet and didn't see any in the first 8 images.

[Anonymous No.7000207]

>>6990476

[Anonymous No.7000220]

>>6999798
Anything "One" related by Wacom is to be avoided.

[Giovanni Giano No.7000291]

>>7000181
>he's retarded
Ehrm...rude? i kno u r but wut am i btw lmoa

>step back 10 feet
It's actually to look at your reference in the Sight Size method (the easel and model are placed parallel to eachother). In formal Comparative Measurement style you don't do that specifically, but the fact you're standing the entire time and alternating between canvas and reference is still so much different to using a Cintiq where all of the things are localized on the screen, especially with the other stuff I mention. Having the media flat (worst) or even on an incline (better) like most people draw at home still lends an advantage to trad because reasons

>you're stationary a vast majority of the time.

I won't dispute that you're stationary most of the time, but the fact is with trad media you're forced to alternate your positioning regularly in attendance to the media and often the method, whereas with a display tablet you have to do so consciously, something you may not do until you're already experiencing some level of discomfort (discomfort that may manifest as a longer term problem before too long).

>>7000220
A One is a screen so no opinion there, but the "One by Wacom" (how confusing is that) is probably the worst thing they'd made in a long time so I can't help but agree.

[Anonymous No.7000298]

>>7000291
So me sitting at my desk drawing in a sketchbook with a mechanical pencil is going to move around a lot? Why?

[Anonymous No.7000321]

How to disable this shitty note app that pops up at random at galaxy tab 6 lite?
It's literally driving me crazy

[Giovanni Giano No.7000350]

>>7000298
Let's not get too pedantic here. Just because it's trad, if a medium has similar eccentricities in its use to digital you will face similar issues (mechanical pencil, ballpoint pen specifically), however-and while this may be reaching a bit-even the act of needing to punch a few more millimeters of lead out from the barrel of the pencil might cause you to sit up and/or look away from the canvas for a moment. You may or may not have caught yourself doing something like this.

My argument is that trad is-in most circumstances-a little better for posture than a digital screen for these niche reasons, but ultimately digital with a screen-free tablet is better-in this way-than both.

[Anonymous No.7000364]

>>7000350
>bit-even the act of needing to punch a few more millimeters of lead out from the barrel of the pencil might cause you to sit up and/or look away from the canvas for a moment.
I'm almost entirely convinced you don't actually even draw and just rip random studies from Google to post as yours.

[Giovanni Giano No.7000389]

If you think you can find my studies on google you're welcome to try, paisan. Gabagool!

[Anonymous No.7000509]

>>7000291
newly released wacom one tablets also stink
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=415ngQOHiME

[Anonymous No.7000515]

>>7000509
ACK! this must just be a rebranded huion!

[Giovanni Giano No.7000698]

>>7000364
Also hey, I did say it was a bit of a stretch. Ultimately my point is that every little bit of compelled (rather than conscious/reactive) movement away from a static held drawing position is good, and is why I believe trad to have an edge over digital display.

>>7000509
>>7000515
Ouch!

[Anonymous No.7000920]

Bump

[Anonymous No.7001124]

>>6990882
i feel like the s9 is better in everything except the stylus, it’s really responsive, but the pen-like form factor is not comfortable, if you have a looser grip and used to drawing in more of an angle, wish they jusy copied the apple pencil honestly

[Anonymous No.7001349]

Any particular used iPad model that's best for drawing? It would exclusively be a drawing machine; I really hate Apple so I wouldn't be buying into any other shit on there. It has to be a Pro model, right?

[Anonymous No.7001416]

>>7001349
IPads get hot and bend, the components have glue and epoxy on top, everything is made for them to not be fixable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Qm99OAQ9p0&

[Anonymous No.7001464]

Guys, I have a huion kamvas, and I hate the angled stand.
If I remove it and just draw on it flat on the desk it's going to break, right?

[Anonymous No.7001478]

>>7001416
This felt like it offends me on every single possible way.

[Anonymous No.7001482]

>>6990476
>only wacom recommended
>'one' not recommended from thread
>'one by' not recommended from thread
>other cheap models weren't refreshed for few years

[Giovanni Giano No.7001507]

>>7001349
If you're insistent on this I would suggest getting the biggest, newest model that's compatible with the newer versions of the apple pencil. From what I heard their position can be read by the tablet before making contact which is a pretty important feature and one of the biggest advantages a Wacom had over them up until this point.

I have a 6th generation and it's just...whatever. My ungloved drawing hand moves the screen unintentionally often, old model pencil so you have to shove it up the ipad's ass to charge it-and do so often-its general performance has dwindled over time with Apple's intentional "update" bloat (Procreate crashed twice in the process of making this epic drawing).

I don't see the appeal

[Anonymous No.7001564]

>bought a new huion device to replace a broken one
>the brand new device is broken

Wacom one or one by wacom?

[Anonymous No.7001586]

>>7001564
what's wrong with it? pics?

[Anonymous No.7001597]

>>7001586
Classic shit, half brained support asking for bullshit videos can't fix issues: the cursor is stucked in the left corner trying to altf4 when i'm using my mouse. Tried an other cable and some tips found on the internet but it's still happened during long session. Mb the issue could come from the wireless tech behind the pen
anyway i'm tired trying to fix shits with distrustful people..I'm quite young but i remember a time (your) chinese companies was super friendly and efficient replacing immediately the broken product by a new one.

>Screenless
wacom one vs one by wacom?

[Anonymous No.7001631]

>>7001597
sounds like a skill issue
just buy an intuos 3

[Anonymous No.7001686]

>>7000509
>>7000515
lmaoooooo guzzler btfo

[Anonymous No.7001727]

>>7001631
>chink

[Anonymous No.7001868]

>>7001416
Oh believe me, when I say I hate Apple I mean it. The build quality is shit, you pay way too much for what you're getting, and their corporation is built on nothing but lies. Getting an iPad Pro would be breaking my Apple hymen, but some of the iOS-exclusive software and portability is pretty tempting. Though since there's not a lot of exclusively software and the above issues, I'd only seriously get it if I encounter a significant discount (somehow).

>>7001507
Good to know. Thank you.

[Anonymous No.7001876]

>>7001868
if you hate apple so much just get a samsung

[Anonymous No.7001904]

>>7001868
The problem with buying second hand, specially Apple is that people usually only sell them for cheap when they have problems, otherwise the price holds up because they're more of status symbols at this point.

[Giovanni Giano No.7001914]

>>7001904
Can confirm. I was looking for the same model I currently own for my mom for Christmas on ebay (just meant to be a little thing she can watch instructional piano stuff on youtube) and they were only $100 less than I'd bought mine new for 3-4 years ago.

Come to think of it, you could try backmarket.com, that's where I got a very good deal on my phone. (You really should get an Intuos Large instead of drawing on one of these things tho)

[Anonymous No.7001934]

>>7001904
>specially Apple is that people usually only sell them for cheap when they have problems
apple faggots are massive consumerfags, they'll buy the latest and greatest islop because it has a new number at the end of it and sell their old one at a 40% loss. literally never had a problem with a used ipad.

[Anonymous No.7001970]

rumours of a q1 2024 ipad pro - presumably with OLED. Is that a feature that would be worth waiting for?

[Anonymous No.7001973]

>>6990892
So what's the go-to app for Android? Do they have an answer to Procreate?

[Anonymous No.7001986]

>>7001973
hipaint is a procreate clone for Android
Infinite painter is similar too

[Anonymous No.7002007]

>>7001973
hipaint and infinite painter are both basically procreate for android
if you need something more powerful there's always CSP, with the simple mode it can also just act as procreate for android now

[Anonymous No.7002011]

>>6990476
So I got an XP-Pen Deco, my pen broke, as in its giving off max pressure when overing over and its acting like im pressing the left mouse button. im pretty sure they replace it for free, but I see they have new years promos, id like some recommendations, are the screen tablets they offer any good?

[Anonymous No.7002180]

>>7002011
>buy poor quality cheaply made garbage
>it breaks
>still want to buy more poor quality garbage
You will always be a complete moron lol.

[Anonymous No.7002191]

>>7002180
You could always suggest something else, I bought something cheap because thats all I had at the time.

[Anonymous No.7002279]

>>7001597
>wacom one vs one by wacom?
One is newer (2023) and costs like 3 times more. Has 4k pressure points (old- 2k) and supports tilt. Better support for non windows.
When you consider One M, old screen One is like 40% more expensive than it.

[Anonymous No.7002334]

>>7002007
I'm mad that they aren't updating that simple mode
wtf celsys

[Anonymous No.7002430]

>>7002279
Is that one of the cursed ones with the broken pressure sensitivity?

[Anonymous No.7002447]

>>7002180
>gets btfo and vanishes
>'someone' gets a broken chink tablet
>suddenly is back
faggot

[Anonymous No.7002451]

>>7002279
1.40€/month, no bugs(?) and an optional cancer from the wireless tech, sounds ok for the rat that I am

Can anyone advise me on halfkeyboard's stuff?

[Anonymous No.7002453]

>>7002279
thx

[Anonymous No.7002553]

>>7002430
When you go through thread a lot say to not get anything with 'One' in name from Wacom. No idea whether they mean older or refreshed (2023) products. Naming scheme is a bitch. Youtuber complained about neither, but you propably can find youtuber saying something good about any product.

[Anonymous No.7002561]

>>7001597
>>7002279
There is chance they will refresh intuos soonTM, but expect price that will make you get older gen screen tablet.
Wacom One M (2023) is propably cheapest entry level brand new. In case you don't mind used look for intuos/- pro M/L.

[Anonymous No.7002781]

I got the s6 lite. It is alright but kinda small and laggy, can't complain much with that price.
Anyways the rubber nibs on glass protector don't feel as comfy as my old intuos wacom. Are the hard nibs better on a mate screen protector?

[Anonymous No.7002857]

is a "paperlike" screen protector worth it for ipad or is it fine to just use a normal screen protector? what's your opinions anons?

[Anonymous No.7002938]

How good are the digitizers on Dell Latitude 2-in-1s?

[Anonymous No.7002945]

>>7002553
it's specifically the 2023 One models that have fucked pressure >>7000509

[Anonymous No.7003298]

AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.7003438]

Wa.com

[Anonymous No.7003673]

Why so many people draw on iPads now? They're not exactly cheap, nor is the pencil

[Anonymous No.7003745]

>>7003673

it's a mystery to me as well. samsung implemented pressure&tilt senstivity way earlier than anyone else in mobile market to their note series phones and tablets. it may be because:

-iphones and ipads were ahead of their time, made a name for apple. android used to be a background project to google that was forcibly put on foreground because of the aheadness of the two. as a consequence, there were more art apps developed for iOS/iPadOS than android. iOS/iPadOS still has more art apps compared to android. procreate predates apple pencil, you can find people drawing in procreate using fingers and usually capacitive, rarely active stylii if you type something like "ipad drawing before:2015" on youtube.

-ecosystem. if someone already owns an iphone, fuck, an ipad with no apple pencil, they're going to prioritize the items belonging to their preferred ecosystem rather than something completely alien.

-shillers. art bigshots with macs/macbooks+wacom intuos/cintiq probably liked the convenience of a digital sketchbook. in certain countries, people prefer having phones and/or tablets because it's more cost efficient. that makes many households with no desktops/laptops. that makes ipad+apple pencil+procreate. professional /beg/s and /int/s especially shill this combo to no end. speaking of procreate...

-...procreate. a lot of us probably thought "[item] will make me the next thing after [art bigshot]" at some point of our lives, and for twitter and tiktok kids it's procreate. it's the killer app of iOS/iPadOS and isn't coming to non-apple platforms anytime soon because apple wants to keep their killer app to themselves.

[Anonymous No.7003807]

Is it possible to use the pen normally used for LCD magnetic tablets on a phone or a mouse pad?

[Anonymous No.7003860]

>>6990487
The reason why I'm really skeptical of these things is that I've had 3 intuos tablets and they've all had a mean wobble to them.

[Anonymous No.7004227]

>>6990476
following the advice of an anon I finally decided to buy for the first time in my life a wacom, I ordered an intuos pro pth-651 for 100 usd, these threads left me with very high expectations regarding the high end of wacom tablets so let's hope it lives up to the expectations, if this shit still makes me feel unconfortable i will give up with digital drawing and focus on trad

[Anonymous No.7004719]

cump

[Anonymous No.7004837]

>>7003438
whats that

[Anonymous No.7005115]

>>7003860
God I hate these soulless bureaucrats

[Anonymous No.7005139]

>>7005115
me too

[Anonymous No.7005548]

>>7002945
savage.
not only they got pressure troubles, they don't even have tilt support.

[Anonymous No.7005590]

>>7003673
It's the BMW of the tablets.
>LOOK, I'M NOT POOR OKAY?!

[Anonymous No.7005683]

>>7003673
>>7003745
aside from just being solid performers it's also the sheer proliferation of iPads, apple has well and truly won the tablet wars and I say this as a lifelong androjeet
parents give their kids iPads, schools give kids iPads, people just get iPads because they're iPads and carriers love to throw that shit into services just to sweeten the deal, the cycle continues even when those people are adults they already know iPads so might as well buy the expensive one now that they have an income too

[Giovanni Giano No.7005727]

>>7005683
>christmas/new years coming up
>ipad behavior starts acting erratic, browser crashing and stuff like that (crashed twice this morning, procreate crashed several times in the process of drawing a simple sketch a few days ago up-thread in fact)

It's almost like they know I have a little spending money this time of year.

If I didn't already have this thing I don't think I would recommend supporting crApple under any circumstances. The only thing I've really enjoyed about my ipad is the imagineFX app. As far as drawing with the ipad goes, I recommend the Intuos 3 which has a smooth surface with little if any texture and I've heard people who think that's something to complain about, but drawing on an ipad in comparison-at least without some of these third party accessories others have mentioned-feels like I'm rubbing a wet bar of soap on my microwave door.

>>7004227
I've laid out exactly what's wrong with the medium, if you don't already have good manual dexterity you will struggle, and if you do have good manual dexterity you'll have deserved something better anyway. Best of luck but don't say you haven't been warned.

[Anonymous No.7006017]

>>7005727
If you are implying that I should have bought a cintiq I'm sorry, but display tablets are not for me and also my favorite artists don't use display tablets, if wacom best screenlest tablets doesn't do the job I'm quitting digital art, trad media is much easier and requires less effort than digital at least in my experience

[Anonymous No.7006019]

>>7006017
>display tablets are not for me
>trad media is much easier and requires less effort
god you're fucking dumb.

[Giovanni Giano No.7006021]

>>7006017
Nah nigga I hate screen tablets. Should have got a large tablet is all I'm sayin'.

[Giovanni Giano No.7006027]

>>7006019
Display tablets aren't trad media tho

[Anonymous No.7006029]

>>7006019
Are you the schizo who always says digital is easier than traditional? I know you can't draw
>>7006021
Oh, don't worry, even with large tablets I always reduce the working area for convenience

[Anonymous No.7006488]

Please talk to me

[Anonymous No.7006598]

So is there an actual use case where Wacom's 17 inch tablet that costs $3500 (plus $600 stand which only works with the 17) makes sense?

Maybe I'm missing something but it just seems deluded in the current market.

[Anonymous No.7006624]

>>7006598
yeah it makes sense when you have money

[Anonymous No.7006628]

>>7003673
What other tablets have a 120Hz refresh rate? Plus the screen is high grade and color calibrated. It's also cheaper than Cintiq+computer.

[Anonymous No.7006734]

>>7006628
New ipad pens are literallt mentally disabled
https://youtu.be/ypsayNjvoXs?t=188

[Anonymous No.7006746]

>>7006734
Well don’t use the retarded one than. It really is simple as that.
Just because something bad exists doesn’t mean you are forced to use it instead of the better alternative the company itself sells.

[Anonymous No.7006752]

>>7006746
Here's the catch.
You can't use the good pens with the latest iPads.

[Anonymous No.7006761]

>>7006752
of course you can you silly little dumb goober retard.
the new basic pen is meant to replace the 1st gen pens that have a lightning connector because the new ipads have a usb-c connector

[Anonymous No.7006767]

>>7000509
Shame there is no comparison to older screenless one by wacom.

>>7005548
New gen has tilt support. >>7002561

[Anonymous No.7006768]

>>7006761
The latest ipads are the 10th gen ones, which only works with the ass pencil.
But you yeah, the iPad Pro line is safe for now with 2nd gen pen. Maybe Apple won't be so retarded to remove pressure in further revisions of their pen.

[Anonymous No.7006770]

>>7006768
>Maybe Apple won't be so retarded to remove pressure in further revisions of their pen.
this is a fully conscious decision. remove important features from the new pen that only works with the new ipad, yet retain the objectively superior product, but only have it be compatible with the much more expensive ipad pro. they're cutting off people's budget option.
either that, or they're throwing a hissy-fit with the new EU ruling and intentionally gimping their products so they can blame it on USB-C or some shit, who knows what's going on in their coked-addled minds.

[Anonymous No.7006777]

>>7006770
Apple should just move to EMR technology like everyone has done in the last decade.
Then there's no longer a need for any connector at all for pens.

[Anonymous No.7006791]

>have an iPad
>want to get a Cintiq 22
>drawing on my iPad the other day
>trying to find a color in Procreate that I see on my reference on my color accurate monitor
>literally can't find the same color on my iPad
>transfer the reference to my iPad to directly color sample it
>looks nothing like it does on my monitor

Shit, and the iPad display is supposedly one of the good ones so the Cintiq can only be much worse, should I even bother with the screen tablet or get one of the screenless ones to draw on my monitor with good colors, supposedly they're better for your posture too and Sinix can't stop praising them

[Anonymous No.7006802]

>>7006770
All you need to see is that 2030 nature video. You'll understand everything why the whole company is so dogshit.

[Anonymous No.7006806]

Found someone selling wacom intuos 2 9x12 inches model completely new factory sealed, made in japan, for 30 dollars.
Feels almost bad to take it out of the box and plastic wrap.

Time to see if 1024 pressure levels and 2540 lpi is really that bad.
I've been curious for a while and that seemed like a really good deal for the last wacoms made in japan before they started making them in china starting with intuos 3.

Gonna report back in a few weeks.

[Anonymous No.7006901]

any news

[Anonymous No.7006977]

>>7006901
https://www.fox26houston.com/news/women-kidnapped-locked-in-garage-for-years-in-harris-county

[Anonymous No.7006997]

>>6990476
God bless faggots thay buy professional tablets use them one time and then resell cheaply

[Anonymous No.7007015]

>>6990487

I have a huion hs611 and it fucking owns, wacom scum on deathwatch, that's all, picrel

[Anonymous No.7007743]

>>7006977
thank you
any bump news?

[Anonymous No.7008339]

https://twitter.com/ww123td/status/1743439052345581958
Wacom niggers?? your response?

[Giovanni Giano No.7008361]

>>7006734
>hear about this guy across several threads
>finally watch a video-a couple videos to get an impression
Regardless of whatever you want to say about his reviews themselves, you guys aren't allowed to call me a /beg/anymore.

>>7006997
I done been telling people this

>>7006806
I have one and it's fine, it looks a little silly but in my own brief test I was given a very good impression of it. Just make sure you make room for it in front of your monitor. Using it off to the side or in your lap is very sub-optimal, but at the end of the day it is not so far removed from what I consider the best tools available. The only downside of the Intuos 2-much like the 3-are the ergonomics: the slightly larger footprint than modern designs and clumsier hotkey arrangement. Superficial stuff; make proper room for it and it will be a great tool for many years to come.

[Anonymous No.7008365]

>>7008339
It's Wacom's marketing department.
Nobody knows what they're smoking.
Not even them.

[Giovanni Giano No.7008366]

>>7006734 #
>hear about this guy across several threads
>finally watch a video-a couple videos to get an impression

Seems like a nice guy; regardless of whatever you want to say about his reviews themselves though, you guys aren't allowed to call me a /beg/ anymore. I admire this guy's courage offering paywalled instructional content, I'm going to need to channel a little bit of that energy for my own projects

>>7006997 #
I done been telling people this.

>>7006806 #
I have one and it's fine, it looks a little silly but in my own brief test I was given a very good impression of it. Just make sure you make room for it in front of your monitor. Using it off to the side or in your lap is very sub-optimal, but at the end of the day it is not so far removed from what I consider the best tools available. The only downside of the Intuos 2-much like the 3-are the ergonomics: the slightly larger footprint than modern designs and clumsier hotkey arrangement. Superficial stuff, really. Make proper room for it and it will be a great tool for many years to come.

[Anonymous No.7008373]

>>7008339
>>7008365
>>7008366
And the wacumguzzler got his ass sent to orbit again
How long until a 'random anon' pops up here with a faulty Chinese tablet?

[Giovanni Giano No.7008383]

>>7008339
>too cheap to even trot out Loish for the 30th time
For shame, unfortunately it's a sign of things to come, we basically can't trust that even these companies won't be using AI regularly. This is nearly on the same level as that retard who'd made an "Art Instruction" book using AI art, stolem Loomis assets and incoherent AI ESL text.

[Giovanni Giano No.7008385]

>>7008339
>too cheap to even trot out Loish for the 30th time
For shame, unfortunately it's a sign of things to come, we basically can't trust that even these companies won't be using AI regularly. This is nearly on the same level as that retard who'd made an "Art Instruction" book using AI art, stolen Loomis assets and incoherent AI ESL text.

[Anonymous No.7008387]

>>7008383
She's busy sucking ImagineFX's dick for the 30th time instead.

[Anonymous No.7008389]

>>7008361
>>7008383
this nigga got dementia

[Anonymous No.7008399]

>>7008385
She's busy sucking ImagineFX's dick for the 30th time instead.

[Giovanni Giano No.7008410]

>>7008387
Speaking of them, ImagineFX is an okay way to find new artists, I like the sketch book issues in particular. Not sure you can learn a ton in their 5-6 page lecture format though. They have a lot of balls charging $30 msrp for each issue.

[Anonymous No.7008419]

>>7008410
ImagineFX is okay, but Loish popping up every two or three issues pisses me off a bit. Didn't they have, like, other artists?

[Anonymous No.7008440]

>>7006806
>Time to see if 1024 pressure levels and 2540 lpi is really that bad

that specs looks a bit similar to the Wacom Bamboo line of tablets. Check if the cursor shakes, when you leave it steady on your drawing tablet. I used to own a Wacom Bamboo MTE450 and the cursor won't stop shaking if I try to draw slowly. I wasn't able to pin point the problem, if it's the GPU, the PSU etc. But think the LPI doesn't match my 1920x1080 monitor. When I bought a Intuos 3 and Intuos 4 tablet and both the LPI of those tablets are 5080 and the cursor doesn't shake.

[Anonymous No.7008452]

I've been using a 12WX and 1024 pressure levels and never have I felt that 1024 levels weren't enough for the task.

[Anonymous No.7008486]

>>7008452
That's a dinosaur tablet. The colors must be muted as hell

[Giovanni Giano No.7008516]

>>7008440
Did not sense a perceptible difference with the 2 on my screen, but I didn't use it for very long either admittedly. To be safe I've always promoted the 3 and above as being more or less indistinguishable from one another because that's what the numbers suggest-and I still may do so going forward-but after having used the 2 I still think whatever differences there are will not be easily determined apart from its surface feel and things like that. I also got the impression that, much as the 3, the surface will last for many years with gentle use whereas the later models are susceptible to rapid deterioration.

I think my mission going forward will be to determine what exact hardware store materials you can use to replace these surfaces on the 3, 4 5 and etc.-with and what the best way to do that might be. I really dislike the idea of so many of these machines ending up discarded because of their surface wear when they potentially have many years of reliable service left in them.

[Anonymous No.7008592]

>>7008486
I don't even plug the screen cable (my new GPU doesn't even have DVI).
To me it's and intuos with stand.
It's got tilt
It's got eraser tip.
It's got 5080 lpi.
It's got 10 keys and 2 slide strips.
It's got eternal plastic nibs, and haven't yet consumed the first one.

I may have memed myself when I was younger.
Colors were shit, the display being on caused shakes and distorsion closer to the edges when it warmed up.
And I realized that 12" were not enough anyway.

But when you disable the screen, it's a comfy ergonomic tablet. The size is just right for a screenless tablet. And I can keep a perfect posture as I use it while looking at my main screen.
What I once considered a dust collector and a painful reminder of my failings, has turned into gold now that I actually draw consistently.

The screen could still be useful for drawing line sketches, I guess. But coloring and painting is just a meme in such a small area.

Anyone serious for a screen tablet should consider a 16" at the very minimum. Ideally a 22".
Though now that I think of it, maybe you could use screen mirroring, and only look at the tablet when you're doing stuff that require perfect eye-hand coordination. That way you could spend more time with good posture looking at the main screen instead on crumpled against a smallish screen tablet...

[Giovanni Giano No.7008726]

>>7008486
Can confirm that it does have issues with color, not sure what the technical reasoning is but I remember it well from when I actually used one regularly.

This, however >>7008592
is based beyond belief, I wish I'd realized I could have done that when I was younger (though I wasn't so thoroughly redpilled on tablets as I am today). However, I also had serious pressure sensitivity issues with it and thanks to Wacom giving me the run around never learned if it was my tablet or the stylus that was defective.

[Anonymous No.7008993]

add another one to the list of artists that think wacom is retarded as fuck

[Giovanni Giano No.7009117]

>>7008993
No opinion on screen tablets. However, in my recent experience with my personal tragedy the XP-Pen Gen 2 (wasted potential) and the comically squeaky Deco Pro 01 v2 I would disagree with the "equal quality" statement-and the Inspiroy Giano is just short of a perfect imitation as well. That said, Wacom has rested on their laurels too long, the gap is perhaps closing bit by bit and I hope the traction that a post like this can get-regardless of the voracity of the claim being made-is making them sweat a bit because that pressure will ultimately work in the consumer's favor. The aforementioned Huion Inspiroy Giano in particular is a very decent tablet at a very good price, its sole issue I experienced regarding its higher initial activation pressure is a mostly marginal one. It is an Intuos Large facsimile at a little over a third of the price of a new Pro.

I can't criticize XP-Pen or Huion for not being able to 100% outright beat Wacom at this time, because frankly the Wacom of today can't beat the Wacom of the past either. Since the Intuos 4-which is functionally and ergonomically almost identical to its descendants in every way that matters-Wacom has spent more or less that entire time researching ways to make their tablets less durable with sandpaper tablet surface texture and chalk-tier nibs instead of advancing the format in a meaningful way.

[Anonymous No.7009137]

>>7009117
xp pen and huion don't need to beat wacom. All they have to do is be comparable, since wacom literally charges up to 10x the price for a nearly identical product. Why would I pay $3000 for a wacom when the equivalent chinese model costs $500 and does functionally the same thing?

[Anonymous No.7009175]

>>7009137
We all know you're being disingenuous, you sad, idiotic chinese shill.

[Anonymous No.7009321]

>>7008516

the >>7008440 anon here, try Mylar sheet if you want to replace the surface. Here's a video sample of someone replacing the surface area of a Intuos 3.

https://youtu.be/kY7TsuyE7Ls

[Anonymous No.7009586]

fuckin changs...

[Anonymous No.7009587]

>>7009175
+$0.02

[Anonymous No.7009599]

the changdroids are at it again

[Giovanni Giano No.7009715]

>>7009321
Good video, thanks. Looks like an efficient, cheap solution. However, I do wonder how much sustained drawing that surface can take before inconsistencies build up considering he damaged it almost immediately, regardless of his remark about how he had to put excess pressure on it to do so. I'll have to see if there's something perhaps even a little better to use, but in the meantime this seems perfectly adequate and I'd imagine it'll compare favorably to current generation surfaces.

[Anonymous No.7009755]

Decided to finally get into digital art, bought a One by Wacom Medium for $50, it arrives the day after tomorrow. Did I fuck up?

[Anonymous No.7009762]

>>7009755
see
>>7008339
You are an actual cuckold.

[Anonymous No.7009768]

>>7009755
no, it's fine and great for that price
it's the wacom one tablets that have problems, not the one by wacoms as confusing as that naming scheme is

[Anonymous No.7009769]

>>7009768
>great for that price
lol

[Anonymous No.7009784]

>>7009769
dunno what else you want, it's half the MSRP

[Anonymous No.7009807]

>>7009762
Gonna cry?

[Anonymous No.7009845]

>>7009784
something actually good, not something that rivals tech from 15 years ago.

[Anonymous No.7009861]

>>7009845
pen tablets are fundamentally 80s tech, as long as it can track consistently and responds to pressure naturally it doesn't matter what you get

[Anonymous No.7010602]

>>7009784
You are replying to a deranged chinaman mate.

[Anonymous No.7010607]

>>7009861
>pen tablets are fundamentally 80s tech
why are you so fucking stupid? Like actually

[Anonymous No.7010661]

what goes bump in the night?
it's chang everybody

[Anonymous No.7010903]

witch to get

[Anonymous No.7010945]

which*

[Anonymous No.7010946]

>>7010945
I tried one years ago but didnt like I think it was wacom but maybe huion idk

[Anonymous No.7011229]

>>7009175
>>7009599
>>7010602
This is how a buck broken man sounds like

[Anonymous No.7011423]

not trying to shit on anyone here but i think the reason i've never been able to get accustomed to screen drawing tablets is the fact that my hand is constantly in the way of the drawing. non-screen tablets i always have my eyes on where i'm drawing with nothing obscuring the art at any time
was never able to get used to screen tablets because of this, probably

[Anonymous No.7011533]

>>7011423
>hand is constantly in the way of the drawing
I'll never understand this retarded complaint. This has been the case for thousands of years with trad art.

[Anonymous No.7011572]

>>7011533
so? how does that apply to my perceived issue? there is still an obstacle in my way with traditional art, which is why i prefer using a non screen tablet, and not traditional art nor screen tablets. i don't care if van gogh didn't care about his hand being in the way, i *do,* and it's become so habitual to prefer not having my hand in the way that any obscuration to the art i'm working on is (if only subtly) bothersome. it's a complaint that has logic behind it

also screen tablets have way too much latency that could also be why i hate them and i'm not buying a fucking apple device just to draw on

[Anonymous No.7011581]

>>7011423
>>7011572

[Anonymous No.7011586]

>>7011572
>so? how does that apply to my perceived issue?
people have dealt with this """"problem"""" for millennia. It's not a real problem, it's just you being a huge faggot.

[Anonymous No.7011595]

>>7011586
yeh i'm a huge faggot but what i am saying is
"i don't like that my hand/arm gets in the way of my art when drawing"
i can do it still but i prefer not having that. let's make it a food analogy actually since you retarded queers love that shit: imagine if you were a caveman eating raw meat. now imagine cooking that raw meat. that's called technological advancement LOL. same applies to this scenario
if you could draw with just your eyes would you say that's retarded? probably not unless you're legitimately a sour old wrinkled twerp from the 1700s who can't possibly imagine an improvement in the field he's been a professional in for most of his life

most of this is bait but you'll still reply anyways

[Anonymous No.7011694]

So I am checking to update my newbie 8 years old Wacom tablet for something with a screen I am interested at this Samsung s9 fe tabs but what I am seeing its that these are normal Android tablets What if I wanna draw in Photoshop? Should I go for Wacom definitely?

[Anonymous No.7011719]

>>7011694
if you're married to photoshop you'll either need a regular pen display or connect the samsung to your computer as a wireless display with superdisplay, which is cool and all for the occasional thing you can't do on the tablet by itself but if that's gonna be your main use case i don't think a standalone tablet is the best option for you since their biggest strength is how independent they can be with native apps like CSP you can use on the go
the s9 FE+ is 12.4" but you can get bigger pen displays with decent resolution for cheaper or around the same price from XPPen or Huion

[Anonymous No.7011891]

>>7011694
yes sir wacom only no other option.

[Anonymous No.7011994]

please understand wacom is actually the best

[Anonymous No.7011996]

>>7011994
why?

[Anonymous No.7011998]

>>7011994
>>7011891
Thank you Wacom® for supporting the employment of prompt engineers

[Anonymous No.7012064]

>>7011998
no problem sir all art is important including prompted artwork.

[Anonymous No.7012107]

>all tablet companies have been offloading to AI prompting marketing firms (knowingly or not) for months now, probably (likely pre-existing relationships, for that matter)
>only Wacom is bad
Well done, XP-Pen. This shit is straight out of the Art of War.

[Anonymous No.7012112]

>>7012107
>Well done, XP-Pen
literally the only brand to cut ties with the ad agency that used AI. are you intentionally being retarded, or does it just come naturally?

[Anonymous No.7012122]

>>6990476
Huion H610 Pro v2

[Anonymous No.7012137]

What wacom is he using?

[Anonymous No.7012146]

>>7012112
All of the credit for cutting ties, none of the blame for doing what everyone else was doing right up until that very moment. Like I said, a wonderful coupe. You have anti-Wacom posts with 2 million views now while XP-Pen gets to pretend as if they were some passive observer who're suddenly filled with righteous indignation. Are we to believe they didn't know AI was involved with their marketing partners until Wacom was exposed for it?

[Anonymous No.7012154]

>>7012146
>Are we to believe they didn't know AI was involved with their marketing partners until Wacom was exposed for it?
no, but wacom couldn't even be bothered to properly apologize, even after the shitstorm, can really blame people for losing sympathy?

[Anonymous No.7012171]

>>7012154
Despite my harsh language I'm actually impressed moreso than anything else. I'm just not fooled by their fake sentimentality, it's more that they played their hand perfectly from a business perspective. Wacom may have just earned themselves a "Bud Light"-tier boycott while not technically doing anything anyone else wasn't doing, and every day they fail to make a statement things just look worse and worse for them, and better for their competitors.

[Anonymous No.7012176]

>>7012146
>Are we to believe they didn't know AI was involved with their marketing partners until Wacom was exposed for it?
https://twitter.com/XPPEN/status/1711306514978517200
this was back in october you fucking ape

[Anonymous No.7012177]

>>7012137
Looks like the old 18” Cintiq

[Anonymous No.7012181]

>>7012176
Alright, you got me. I never noticed the time stamp

[Anonymous No.7012183]

>>7012112
Huion did respond to the AI allegations. It was company that they collaborated with in the past that was hosting a contest, So at least two tablet companies disavowed using AI in their marketing.

[Anonymous No.7012186]

>>7012137
probably wacom DTU-710. Old as fuck model

[Anonymous No.7012194]

i just don't think wacom is good value for the money

[Anonymous No.7012199]

i want xp pen to make the portable standalone pen tablet dream a reality

[Anonymous No.7012202]

>>7012199
the ipad exists

[Anonymous No.7012205]

>>7012202
i want more competition, it's basically just ipad and samsung right now because everyone else is using shitty pen tech

[Anonymous No.7012310]

>>7012199
wacom mobilestudio and huion kamvas studio

[Anonymous No.7012315]

>>6990476

[Anonymous No.7012317]

>>7012310
way fucking overpriced

[Anonymous No.7012318]

bump

[Anonymous No.7012350]

Anyone here used a Surface Pro? I got a galaxy tab mostly for mobile sketching (I can take it with me to work, on the toilet, on the bed, etc.) and I'm pretty satisfied so far. However if I ever plan to set up a workflow between my home PC and the tab so I can work on the same large scale project on 2 machines I feel like I may run into problems since I don't have CSP on the tab, along various other issues with android.

Is the drawing hardware of the surface pro >8 not enough for 'serious' art or is it on par with ipads/galaxy tabs? I already spent the money so I don't plan on buying anything for at least a few years but I'm curious.

[Anonymous No.7012443]

Alright I am going for huion kamvas pro 16 it seems like wacom is shit nowadays so I am gonna try this

[Anonymous No.7012448]

>>7012443
>Alright I am going for huion kamvas pro 16
good for you anon, I went with huion, it's almost a year now, best decision of my life, fuck wacom

[Anonymous No.7012450]

>>7012443
for a 16" tablet, I think the newest xp pen shit on the huion desu

[Anonymous No.7012495]

>check thread
>chang still being a psycho the whole way through, as usual

[Anonymous No.7012595]

>>7012443
Kamvas 16 2021 is better (newer pen) if you're nabbing the 1080p ver, though Huion is releasing a new line this year so a new 16 inch would be even better if you wait quite a while (much better corner accuracy and pressure response in the future releases).
>>7012450 is true if you want to buy now and have more budget since it's 2.5k resolution and therefore like $200 more than the 1080p ver

[Anonymous No.7012605]

>>7012595
Nah, it's poor quality chinese crap.

[Anonymous No.7012618]

>>7006806
>>7008366
>>7008440
>>7008516
>>7009321
I have returned with no results so far, it does not appear to work on windows 10, even on older drivers.
I'll have to set up a virtual machine with win 7 it looks like, which is a hassle so ETA changed to "eventually",

[Anonymous No.7012621]

>>7012618
Try if it's supported by opentabletdriver:
https://opentabletdriver.net/

[Anonymous No.7012625]

>>7012562

>>7012562

>>7012562

[Anonymous No.7012629]

>>7012621
i'll give it a try

[Anonymous No.7012646]

>>7012629
mkay it works but there is no pressure sensitivity or tilt and it's pretty jittery
guess i'll need to VM it after all

[Anonymous No.7012678]

>>7012621
>>7012629
>>7012646
nevermind all you need to do is get the 6.2.0w5 driver and set it in compatibility with win 7 before installing and it just works

no lag, no jitter, pressure, tilt and a huge 9x12in area
the only issue so far is i'm used to how far i can hove my pen above the intuos pro without touching the surface so i'm used to just hover moving around

it seems to need to be fairly close, like less than a centimeter to the surface to recognize it

other than that it feels pretty much the same

unfortunately looks like it has the same "bubbling" on tapered strokes at the very ends where it doesn't taper nicely to thin but instead makes a blotch when you let go at the end of the stroke
my current intuos pro does the exact same though so i guess that's just how the driver always was

the surface also feels much rougher than intuos pro, it's no slidy at all, feels like a paper tooth
but that could be due to age? it's brand new but it is still over 20 years old

[Giovanni Giano No.7012742]

>>7012618
I'll try mine on Windows 11 (Yuck) when I get back to my apartment. Come to think of it, I may have used the 2 so seamlessly on Linux (which has an awesome, no frills universal driver for Wacom tablets) without thinking about whether or not Windows would cause any difficulties. If I can get it working on Windows I'll let you know specifically what driver etc.

[Giovanni Giano No.7012746]

>>7012742
(Nevermind you figured it out)

The hovering thing is unusual though: I don't recall it needing the stylus to be particularly close to be read by the tablet, and because I'm very reliant on that I'm confident I'd have noticed. Looks like I'm plugging the old thing in again after all

[Anonymous No.7012750]

>>7012746
>>7012742
yeah on intuos pro i can hower it almost a full length of my palm away from it and it reads it
with this one i need to bring it a fingertip length close to the surface for it to pop in
i'll try setting up a linux virtual machine then and see if it helps, if that was resolved it would be perfect
does it just work on it off the box or do i need to download that universal driver from somewhere?

[Anonymous No.7012752]

>>7012562
>>7012562
>>7012562

>>7012562
>>7012562
>>7012562