/wct/ - Water Cooler Talk

[Anonymous No.6978645]

If you're on a break after drawing and feel like sharing what's on your mind about what you're working on, the industry, things that excite you about art, or anything that frustrates you about drawing or the process of art then grab a cup of water and chill out here. Remember to keep discussion on-topic as much as possible.

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>>6944706

[Anonymous No.6978660]

Seeing all the progress made by anons in >>6944618 fills me regret for not having drawn literally anything in 2023.
A part of me feels inspired by them and says I should see the new year as an opportunity to pick up drawing again but another says I shouldn't bother as I've wasted an entire year of potential progress...

[Anonymous No.6978670]

I keep buying art books faster than I can finish them and I don't even end up using them cause reading from the pdf on my puter is easier and more convenient

[Anonymous No.6978674]

>>6978670
I don't read art books anymore. Just study from the masters and draw from life.

[Anonymous No.6978680]

>>6978674
I don't leave the house enough to draw from life and I really just want to get to a point where I can illustrate small scale ideas and characters in an appealing manner for which anatomy, construction and mileage are the most important so copying and understanding morpho, hampton etc is more useful to me than understanding masterpieces

[Anonymous No.6978691]

I recently re opened my xwitter account and dumped everything I didnt post, as well some new draws, one FotM posting included. My account is looking lively, my posts did good numbers, a few new follows and lots of engagement from both new and regulars alike, I get a few nice messages and people seem to really appreciate my stuff, two commissions on the working too, so income is not missing.

Im just very happy for how things are coming along lately, Im still getting hated on this board and still have a dedicated schizo trying to mess with me, but in the grand scheme of things, everything is doing great.

If I can do it, so can you, anon, and so much better too, Keep pushing!

[Anonymous No.6978695]

i sometimes wonder if it would instantly kill a proompter if i said human artists were responsible for everything they like from the last several centuries

[Anonymous No.6978697]

I just turned 30 yesterday and I still have yumes to become a mangaka.

[Anonymous No.6978742]

>>6978695
they legitimately dont give a fuck at this point lmao

[Anonymous No.6978757]

> want to print out a booklet
> have pdf
> they don't know how to print spreads
> "oh sorry, we need to charge you to fix this because you didn't set this up right"
> they want $10 extra to "fix" the pages
Fuck Fedex. I don't know what happened but they gotten worse over the years.

[Anonymous No.6978760]

>>6978695
>>6978742
They are far up their own assholes that they think what they do is the same thing.

[Anonymous No.6978774]

Water cooler? Sorry guys but I go to water heater, that's where all the art sluts are hanging out

[Anonymous No.6978785]

Mang...I see some arts get a shit ton of likes and favorites and engagement, what the actual fuck.

[Anonymous No.6978795]

>>6978785
Yeah, artwork getting tons of likes and favorites and engagement is weird.

[Anonymous No.6978806]

>>6978760
ok

[Anonymous No.6979543]

Got mogged today lads, feel like pure shit

[Anonymous No.6979632]

I have a scanned physical print of the Vilppu Drawing Manual, but I failed to download the pdf while it was still up. Official copies are borderline non-existent.

Need…. PDF……

[Anonymous No.6979636]

>>6978660
Do bother
Your soul is on the line, the stakes have never been higher
Ai is gonna go down the shitter once lawsuits start rolling in

[Anonymous No.6979637]

>>6979543
what happened

[Anonymous No.6979717]

>>6979637
I can't compete with a funny little guy on a blank background even when people refer to my work as "pro"
Been trying to appealmaxx but funny little guys are too strong

[Anonymous No.6979723]

>>6978645
Somebody had made an analysis of how Family guy and other shows have these figures talking to each other in this strange way of communicating to somebody next to you while looking at them with the corner of your eye while having your body facing 3/4 away from them. Does anyone remember reading a post like that?

[Anonymous No.6979727]

I want to do a comic on abuse, trauma and stuff, but forcthe story to work I need it to have vampires and shit in it.
How do I include fantasy elements without contrasting too much with the serious shit?

[Anonymous No.6979730]

>>6979727
Just write it seriously except they're vampires. Serious vampires already exist.

[Anonymous No.6979744]

>>6979730
Isn't gonna come up as something like "this guy wants to talk about adult topics but can't leave behind this teen shit"
Although the solution maybe is simply integrating the vamps as a metaphore

[Anonymous No.6979758]

>daily power outages
>"Hmm... Maybe I should take advantage of those four hours without electricity to watch those Vilppu videos I downloaded a while ago"
>check Vilppu folder
>there's nothing there
Fuck...

[Anonymous No.6980111]

>>6979727
A vampire can be many things but the main things a vampire is, is immortal and prey on humans. Does your character need these traits? If its about abuse maybe it could be about a child who got recessive vamp genes and is slowly turning into a vampire

[Anonymous No.6980206]

>give a new Netflix movie a chance
>shoved us vs them propaganda in my face

This is why I just stick with anime. Although the cinematography was creative at times I'll give it that.

[Anonymous No.6980217]

>>6978660
>but another says I shouldn't bother as I've wasted an entire year of potential progress...

Anon I'm sorry but this makes no sense. Your failure to draw during 2023 AD should have no bearing on what you decide to do in 2024 AD. I'm not happy with my progress either, but I'm going to keep trying until I make it.

[Anonymous No.6980225]

every time i'm learning something, i feel awful because it doesn't click right away. I know it's not supposed to, and i've proven to myself that I can learn something decently quick, but I still feel like shit; even thought about quitting each time.

[Anonymous No.6980234]

When do you make it? Because in my eyes, I already made it. It feels like people haven't found me yet. Not saying I don't have a lot to improve. I feel I need to do marketing. What do anons think? Ad or no?

[Anonymous No.6980240]

>>6978660
Anon, you chose to not draw this year and you can choose to draw next year. Hell, choose to start now. I wasted 12 years not drawing but at least I chose to start again this year. I didn't improve all that much either but I'm also desperate and I'll happily take any improvement at all.

[Anonymous No.6980246]

Today I did as per usual post my doodles on a discord server
This time I was told that i should be drawing comics
I saied I I'll do it once I grinded enough

[Anonymous No.6980252]

>>6978645
Saw an artist with incredible appeal and skills but does not follow the trends and only draws random stuff she likes so she only has less than 100 followers. I can't even shill the account cuz mine is even smaller, but I do retweet her stuff often. And shilling it here is out of the question, the last thing I want is a bunch of schizo harrassing one of the few artists I admire.

[Anonymous No.6980267]

>>6978645
Things have been looking so bleak lately. I was so close to hitting my big break after a good momentum during 2020-2021 until I had to drop out of the game abruptly over a personal crisis. I come back while recession is hitting people hard, that even popular artists can’t make consistent income. Art is the only thing I’ve ever succeeded in my shitty life and I’m still determined to make it no matter what.

[Anonymous No.6980272]

>windows forces an update on me
>pen now unable to register light strokes at random
I swear to fucking god I tried disabling windows updates in the past and windows would always fucking re enable them, now it's fucked me over

[Anonymous No.6980273]

>>6980252
>And shilling it here is out of the question, the last thing I want is a bunch of schizo harrassing one of the few artists I admire.
nobody gives a fuck
stop saying shit like this

[Anonymous No.6980278]

>>6979636
>>6980217
>>6980240
Thanks for the encouragement anons. I needed to hear that

[Anonymous No.6980282]

>>6978645
Did nothing but study art for around a year, no video games, going out for fun and anything else I thought wouldn't contribute to my art journey.
I fucking had enough about a month ago and tried to kill myself but fucking woke up

Feel so empty and burnt out bros I don't want to do anything creative, not even just personal stuff. What the fuck can I do to get back into art?

[Anonymous No.6980291]

>>6980273
I have been on this site for long enough to know that all it takes is one autist. You are incredibly naive if you think that can't happen.

[Anonymous No.6980294]

>>6980272
iOS is better

[Anonymous No.6980297]

>>6980252
She won’t suck your dick

[Anonymous No.6980299]

>>6980282
Go out, have fun, and play video games. Live a little.

[Anonymous No.6980301]

>>6980282
You need to balance drawing to grind and drawing for fun. It easy to lose yourself in an attempt to improve but the truth is that the most important thing about art is that you have fun
Take a break from drawing now, do something else and come back with a clear head. Don't grind day by your skill once you do. Take your time to have fun to draw and express yourself. That's what it's about after all

[Anonymous No.6980304]

>>6980282
If you're burnt out just take a break and forget about the "art journey"
It'll eventually come back to you (sooner than you think) and you won't forget what you've already learned either

[Anonymous No.6980336]

I've been drawing digitally for over a decade but
>draw something in csp
>nice good
>draw same exact thing on paper with pencil
>leagues better
or
>draw something in csp
>nice good
>print it out onto a paper
>leagues better
Why does art on a screen just look so much worse

[Anonymous No.6980449]

Speaking as someone who draws in anime style, weebs are so fucking cringe I swear. Twice now I have been approached by them in public. (My house is a fucking furnace this time of the year around noon so I need to go somewhere with an ac to draw). I already hate being bothered while drawing enough but they have this trademark incel nervousness when approaching a stranger, making lame jokes and trying to get my attention with some captain obvious tier lines like "whoa you draw manga eh" or "hey fellow weeeeeb". I want to skin them so fucking much it's unreal

[Anonymous No.6980856]

>>6978645
So I'm working on a game with a few buddies and 1 of them said they always wanted to create game assets for a game. cool, we could use someone with art skills (I was ultra beg at this point, so didn't volunteer). We finally came up with ideas for concept art and gave him the creative freedom to do whatever characters and styles he wants to use. He shows off his work to us and it's clearly traced from a popular animated show. It blew my mind he thought that would pass. We then look at some of his earlier "work" and he traced one of the most wellknown gaming mascots of all time and just recolored some things. Now looking back at his idea contribution for game design, he only ever suggested 1-to-1 copies of other games with no attempt to be unique or different, and he only ever suggested them because his fiance wanted them. How do people like this become "artists"? I thought creativity was something you had to have to be one. Even most coom artists have the decency to actual draw their work and not trace, holy shit.

[Anonymous No.6980872]

>>6980449
>"hey fellow weeeeeb
lmao i would kms on the spot

[Anonymous No.6980885]

>>6980856
your bud has a case of the 'tisms. born a decade earlier he'd be proudly showing off his original character Sonichu.

[Anonymous No.6980889]

>>6980885
*just assumed age young as that's the trend for "buds want to make a game".

[Anonymous No.6980897]

>>6980449
This is actually part of the reason I took the westoid pill and tried to make my art slightly less anime-ish and tried to mix things up, anime is beautiful and the styles that come out of it are worth learning but good god there's so many weird/cringe connotations/associations that come with it and you kinda get lumped in with this weird weeb//otaku thing, it's just a pain to hear sometimes

[Anonymous No.6980900]

>>6980856
Honestly that sounds god awful, even Ai generations are less creatively bankrupt than tracing existing properties

[Anonymous No.6980905]

>>6978645
I'm making pretty ample progress on an animation today. I am proud of myself, that is all. I hope everyone here is also getting their amazing work done as well.

[Anonymous No.6980985]

>>6980885
>>6980889
we're grown ass adults in our 30s and 40s (we're doing this as a fun hobby on the side of our normal salary work). I haven't seen anything of his early work, but he seems right in line with sonic OC level autism. He's perfectly normal otherwise, so this was a bit of a shock.

>>6980900
yeah, since we all work together, me and the 1 other guy are needing to let the tracer down lightly. it's a dumb situation to be in, I just wanted to be inclusive and let someone fulfill a dream passion of theirs. shit sucks

[Anonymous No.6980989]

i'm a beg and it surprises me just how long it takes to get good art. like it even takes years for people with talent.

[moaiposter No.6981007]

Drew a thing for the thread for fun, feel free to add yourself in there if you want

>>6980989
Don't most skills take years or at least 2-3 to develop basic strength? It doesn't seem particularly strange to me.

>>6980985
Ah yeah that's tough, but maybe an easy way to tell em is that people online probably will be very very quick to point out where the art originally comes from so you shouldn't use the assets for that reason, making it not personal but just if your passion project gains traction it will receive backlash etc

[Anonymous No.6981013]

>>6981007
I decided to ask the guy nicely if it was traced, he confessed, and I just told him it would be how bad it would be if someone were to find out work we did was taken from other media. Giving him 1 more week to make his own original work before cutting him loose. Really needed to vent here, thnx anons.

[Anonymous No.6981018]

>>6981013
good call, hope the passion project thing works out tho

[Anonymous No.6981143]

>>6981007
Nice drawing
>>6980989
just keep drawing, there's no amount of reading about how to draw to get around that. But most of /ic/ can't seem to cope with that lmao

[Anonymous No.6981145]

>>6981143
Very nice addition anon

Also hard agree, people can talk about talent/genetics all they want but you'll never find anyone who's good who didn't put in time.

[Anonymous No.6981154]

>>6980111
No, the vampire thing came out when I tried to figure out some way to have the protagonist and the antagonist both live an exceedingly large amount of time and also have a connection on some deep level that sets them apart from "normal people"
Shit I have the scenes and the mood clearly enough in my head but I can't put it into words
Something like you wanted to give up everything for revenge, but ended up being worse than the people you hated, but then you embraced it, and embracing it you discovered forgiveness and everyone died happily ever after the end
Something like that. It makes no sense ok
Gonna start sketching the characters on February, I need to tweak my style a bit before that

[Anonymous No.6981157]

>>6980240
>I wasted 12 years not drawing
Is this me or an actually different person?

[Anonymous No.6981170]

>>6980449
Lmao I know its so rough, conventions are especially hellish
>>6980897
Same here. I started studying western art for a few weeks now and got great results. However, I got accused the other day of having a foot fetish because I can draw them noticeably better lmao
>>6981143
thanks and true, picrel

[Anonymous No.6981172]

[Anonymous No.6981175]

>>6981170
pppft replied to myself >>6981145

[Anonymous No.6981182]

>>6981143
>>6981007
lemme add my anon

[Anonymous No.6981209]

>>6981007
>>6981143
>>6981182
I'm short

[Anonymous No.6981222]

>>6981209
You look like a little gremlin kek.

[Anonymous No.6981231]

>>6981209
>>6981182
>>6981143
>>6981007
AAAA

[Anonymous No.6981234]

I feel like I've got such a god complex when making art. The idea that there are people out there who wants to consume what I've made creatively with my own two hands is intoxicating. I'm not even /int/

[Anonymous No.6981253]

>>6981007
>>6981143
>>6981182
>>6981209
>>6981231
Dammit, by the time I get to refill my bottle, there'd be no cold water left on the water cooler...

[Moai No.6981338]

>>6981143
>>6981170
>>6981172
>>6981182
>>6981209
>>6981231
>>6981253

Came back after a long day at work, this was really funny to see, many keks and thanks frens

[Anonymous No.6981346]

>>6981157
We're in the same boat, then. Let's keep on trying our best and never give up. I live with regret imagining the things I could've made had I not quit back then. I don't wanna live with that regret again in 10 years.

[Anonymous No.6981397]

>>6980989
Try remember how long it took for you to go from struggling to draw an a, b, c, etc to being able to write essays without thinking about it
And writing is something that you practiced every single day for years and years
This isn’t to discourage you btw but to encourage you

[Anonymous No.6981483]

I had sex with a cougar escort and now i'm drawing my memory of her

[Anonymous No.6981500]

>>6981483
>escort
why didn't you ask to draw her live?

[Anonymous No.6981508]

>>6981483
>and now i'm drawing my memory of her

Cap on backwards. You just wanted to tell us you sinned.

[Anonymous No.6981543]

>>6981346
I'm already on the do or die wagon since a couple years, and despite everything falling apart and me malding 24/7, I wouldn't have it any other way.
Wish your god to put a V8 on your victory and send it your way

[Anonymous No.6981651]

>>6979717
Find a fandom, those appreciate guys more often than girls or at the very least like diversity of artists and styles

[Anonymous No.6981653]

>>6979727
I mean add in some good (emphasis on not problematic pedo shit) romance options and it's a perfect recipe for popularity among teens and young adults

[Anonymous No.6981656]

>>6980297
It's possible to not wish ill upon someone unless they will suck your dick

[Anonymous No.6981659]

>>6980252
I mean not everybody is in it to make it so why concern yourself with her numbers, at the end of the day you can only influence yours unless your a big account

[Anonymous No.6981691]

About to setup an X/twitter account to upload whatever I draw, since people keep telling me Im good at it.

I really dont know if Im good enough and all I see with a ton of likes are NSFW, I honestly dont want to draw just whatever waifu is popular currently.

I feel Im going to hate this but I have to make money somehow...

[Anonymous No.6981695]

I just want more free time, why is that so much to ask?

[Anonymous No.6981698]

>>6981695
wake up 1 hour earlier

[Anonymous No.6981702]

>>6981698
I keep turning off the alarm out of sheer instinct.

[Anonymous No.6981711]

>>6978695
Prior to the last several centuries, though? Are we talking aliens?

[Anonymous No.6981794]

>>6981702
>>6981698
Go to bed a couple of hours earlier
It’s the only way to not sleep through or automatically turn off the alarm

[Anonymous No.6981824]

What are you guys doing on Christmas?
I have to transport gf to visit her annoying family, so I'm going to spend like five hours sleeping or getting bored in the car while I wait her to finish and come out pissed

[Anonymous No.6981867]

>>6981824
Your mom and I will hang out by the mistletoe as I feel her forms and sweet caress

[Anonymous No.6981874]

>>6981824
You not going in with her?

[Anonymous No.6981877]

>>6981867
god I wish that were me

[Anonymous No.6981882]

>>6981824
Taking my family to my parents house. It'll be chill since dad and brother reeled in their cringe.
Then my husbands family will arrive and we will all collectively have to pretend as if they're not awful people and put up with their bullshit until they leave. So I guess half of it will be good

[Anonymous No.6981894]

>>6981874
Nah, they're the kind of people that not only I find very annoying, but I usually end up hurting without even noticing

[Anonymous No.6981900]

>>6981824
Nothing with my family, thank god. I'm in college like a thousand miles from my family, and I couldn't be happier. I can actually draw without them around, and that's exactly what I'll be doing until classes start up again.

[Anonymous No.6981904]

>>6981824
Contrary to previous years, nothing.
My father's family had a tradition of making a christmas dinner, but ever since my granparents died, plus the local crisis, there isnt any money to properly organize a dinner, nobody wants to anyway.
As for my family, same issues with money and a little inside problem between one our siblings prevents us from making our own christmas dinner.

I was thinking of, maybe, treat my family a nice lunch of grill either at 24th or 31st with some of the commissions money.

[Anonymous No.6981905]

>>6981824
Drawing, vidya, eating chocolate, movies with wife

[Anonymous No.6981917]

>>6981253
can't believe I'm the only one in this office who dressed up for he holidays

[Anonymous No.6981918]

>>6981894
..still sitting in a car for xmas, can't she get there some other way and you spend the day with your family?

[Anonymous No.6981945]

>>6981918
I would prefer if my whole family was fucking dead, so really don't want to see them for Christmas
Maybe I can see if one of my mother exes is home alone and snatch a couple drinks at their place

[Anonymous No.6981958]

>>6981917
Wholesome, happy holidays anon

[Anonymous No.6981965]

>>6981945
my bad, I forget some families are ass
maybe sit down at a nice diner or caffe and draw. say merry xmas to whoever else comes in to chill there too

[Anonymous No.6981978]

>>6981691
good luck anon.

[Anonymous No.6982014]

>>6981965
Np man, you had no way to know
Anyway whatever maybe I'll actually crash on a bar and get a couple drinks with some other fucker. Still better than killing myself with boredom in the car

[Anonymous No.6982015]

>>6981917
I really like how wholesome this thread is going

[Anonymous No.6982020]

I haven't not drawn in half a year and even then i didn't do all that much.
I'm three years in of doing it on and off and i'm still a beg and have done less than 50 hours total.
Should i quit for good? I kinda don't want to but i doubt i'll be able to actually square up and start learning routinely.
I think about it daily though.

[Anonymous No.6982023]

>>6982020
Draw for fun? You don't NEED to get good ASAP right this second, yknow?
You can just draw and vibes to high beg and then start grinding if you really wanna

[Anonymous No.6982024]

>>6982023
I can't take pleasure in making objectively shit-quality drawings.
The only people i have ever seen take pleasure in drawing are either at least somewhat skilled individuals or children who have an excuse for being bad(that they're children)

[Anonymous No.6982038]

>>6981007
hey moai anon, you mind sharing that texture brush you use? I'm using CSP's colored pencil but yours is more gritty and interesting and I'd like to replace mine for yours

[Anonymous No.6982042]

>>6982024
maybe it is time for a different hobby then, you don't seem to like the process of making art and that's like 95% of the whole thing

[Anonymous No.6982064]

>>6982042
I do just not when the result is shit.
I like the act of putting pen to paper and fucking around. But i always am deeply saddened by the end result becasue it has never once been good.
Its like if you enjoyed running but no matter how much you do it you're always the last one to reach the finish line.
No one's gonna bother when that's the case

[Anonymous No.6982070]

>>6982064
>No one's gonna bother when that's the case
But that's objectively wrong. Everyone who is genuinely skilled at ANY activity was once unskilled. Simple logic can tell you then the only people who become skilled are those who put themselves out there while being unskilled. All skilled people are people who achieved poor results many times but still bothered to try long-term. That's objective logic.
Your mentality itself is unskillful. You're only going to hold yourself back if you spend your entire life results-oriented instead of process-oriented. In our world only people who let go of results get the privilege of eventually getting them. That goes for everyone, including you and people who are better than you. The difference is they DID bother and put in their reps already.

[Anonymous No.6982079]

>>6982070
>But that's objectively wrong. Everyone who is genuinely skilled at ANY activity was once unskilled.
That's actually wrong.
Anyone who is skilled at an activity has started off in a positive feedback loop of success/engagement.
Someone who is at the top of his class at age 15 has likely been at the top at age 9 as well.
You start doing something, you find a natural skill for it, you continue and get even better.
Without the initial success the engagement will die off in 99% of the individuals and those who prevail will never reach the level that comes to others naturally.

I bet you that most professional or even good artists have been doing this shit since age 10 if not earlier. So at the age i am now most of them already have 12+ years of experience.

I agree wit hthe second part that much is >You're only going to hold yourself back if you spend your entire life results-oriented instead of process-oriented. In our world only people who let go of results get the privilege of eventually getting them. That goes for everyone, including you and people who are better than you. The difference is they DID bother and put in their reps already.
I won't give up simply because i don't want to. I don't believe i have any chance of success though. I don't have anything better to do either.
I'll start tomorrow becasue its really late right now for me.

[MoaiBlackSootMerchant No.6982080]

>>6982038
Made my own brush for painttoolsai 2 to recreate the black soot brush in clip studio paint

here are the settings I used after some tinkering

>>6981917
lovely work btw

[Corpo Moai Anon No.6982090]

>>6981917
Here's some music while you're chillin' at the water cooler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyXg-lp2N_g

[Anonymous No.6982091]

>>6982079
nta but wow. literally delusional. if you think like this then just fucking stop drawing and log off. why are you even here?

[Anonymous No.6982108]

>>6982091
I want to learn how to draw still.
That's pretty much the only reason.

[Anonymous No.6982110]

>>6982079
Well, I'm not going to lie and say people's opportunities and environment don't affect them. But just because that's true as well doesn't mean we need to slide into doomerism about learning as adults. Earlier or later, everyone started one day.

I'll also say if you've ever been very verrry skilled at an activity, you might come to think differently about lucking into positive feedback loops being what drives success.
As for why I say that - Incidentally, I play a certain fighting game at a very high level (like one of the best players in my state). Getting to a very high level at any skilled activity is like walking through a never-ending series of "you must be this tall to ride" signs. All success just brings you up one step, only to experience failure once again at a higher level. The only people who get good (in my experience) are people who can somehow psychologically manage the never-ending negative feedback loop that this causes.
Success is always transient and relative, but failure always comes back. So if you say people who are top-level at things are just in positive feedback loops, I'd have to say the actual experience of skill growth long-term feels very opposite to that. As far as I've experienced, frustration is the one true constant of learning. And if I look at /beg/ to high-/int/ players the only real question of talent is the talent of being able to motivate/lead oneself through a learning process. People only genuinely butt up against genetic factors in their success (like in my example how many frames your reaction time is/etc) at the highest level. Up until the top 1% it's all mentality, putting in reps, and structured learning skills.

Trust the reps and trust yourself. Beliefs about the self become self-fulfilling prophecies. If you convince yourself it's hopeless you'll put yourself in danger of making that true, and it doesn't have to be. I wish you luck anon.

[Anonymous No.6982114]

>>6982108
Your less than 50 hours in 3 years says otherwise.

[Anonymous No.6982122]

how much energy do you guys burn when drawing? I can't even last an hour anymore. Drawing feels like intense deep studying of esoteric unsolvable problems. I end up sitting and staring at the wall for 5 hours for every 1 hour of drawing.

[Anonymous No.6982129]

>>6982114
i'd like to think that he fact that i'm still thinking about it cancels out how little i've done to attain my goal.
>>6982110
I've had this conversation a million times already. You're right but i doubt that crumb of truth will end up helping me in any way.

[Anonymous No.6982132]

>>6982129
>i'd like to think that he fact that i'm still thinking about it cancels out how little i've done to attain my goal.

You don’t wanna sound like my idiot brother ranting on about “goals”. I watched his twitter all year long and he kept posting about “meeting goals” and talking about how much he wants to do art all while sitting in the corner…doing nothing. All year. Barely no posts of actual art.

I mean, if my norm brother is like this he’s probably the splitting image of everyone else who talks about goal setting and barely has nothing up related to what they want to achieve. I’m left confused on what he was doing all year long.

[Anonymous No.6982197]

This week I finished a great drawing at my long time drawing group and said goodbye to everyone. It was sad, but I made some friends at another drawing group and that was fun. I chatted up the model, and she said she was interested in posing for a few of us later. So, now a hot girl is going to come get her big sexy titties out at my place and it's not all bad.

[Anonymous No.6982204]

>>6982132
The difference being that i will actaully do learn it at one point.
The end result is all that matters.

[Anonymous No.6982206]

>>6982110
The bit about only butting up against real talent barriers at elite levels is really true. Talent is 99% lots of good practice.

[Anonymous No.6982213]

>>6982197
Cheers mate, and glory to the titties

[Anonymous No.6982483]

How many of you are left-handed?

[Anonymous No.6982487]

>>6982483
'bout tree fiddy

[Anonymous No.6982491]

>>6982483
I'm left handed and have ADHD. I do have ligameme, so I was able to pull through.

[Anonymous No.6982534]

>>6982090
>luxury elite
Fuuuuuck. It's been years since I listened to world class. Thanks for the reminder, anon :)

[Anonymous No.6982650]

>>6982080
thanks anon

[Last Moai No.6982651]

>>6982534
>>6982650
Happy to help, it was really fun IC...my time has come
You must continue your journey's without me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAVnGvRwXew

[Anonymous No.6982678]

>draw something
>check if I'm done
>forgot to draw the other ear
>stare at it for another 30 minutes
>forgot to draw the buttons on the shirt
>stare at it for another 30 minutes
>forgot to draw the first ear somehow
>stare at it for another 30 minutes
>the entire shirt is wrong

what the fuck is this, like drawing has given me Alzheimer's

[Anonymous No.6982685]

>>6982678
step away and come back to it later, a lot of people sleep on it and fix it up the next day with a fresh pair of eyes

[Anonymous No.6982687]

>>6982651
goodnight sweet prince, you've inspired us all

[Anonymous No.6982692]

>>6982651
You will live forever in my heart brother

[Anonymous No.6982697]

>>6982678
Happens, If you need it done today, gotta flip the canvas every which way/ use mirror check if trad. go for a short walk. you can also write notes on your drawing, or keep a checklist.

[Anonymous No.6982700]

>>6982697
>also write notes on your drawing, or keep a checklist.
honestly I need to get into the habit of that, I always have this short list of finishing touches I wan that I frequently forget like a specific effect or accessory or freckles

[Anonymous No.6982711]

>>6982700
when I put a pic away to work on the next day I cover it in notes, I don't trust myself to remember everything I that came to mind...

[Anonymous No.6982873]

it's OK to draw anime girls floating in the void

[Anonymous No.6982884]

>>6982873

[Anonymous No.6982904]

>>6982873
But you could draw anime girls exploring dilapidated cities. It's not ok that you deprive your anime girl of kino context.

[Anonymous No.6982905]

>>6982873
No, it really isn't.

[Anonymous No.6982909]

>>6982873
No. Your characters deserve a world to be placed in. Stop coming up with excuses to not have to work on backgrounds/perspective. Might as well have a writer say "it's ok to only write prologues, not the rest of the novel."

[Anonymous No.6982947]

Is it OK if I don’t draw?

[Anonymous No.6983006]

>>6982947
Yeah man its fine, take a break for the holidays

[Anonymous No.6983009]

I drew a frog today (first drawing ever) why am I not a millionaire yet?

[Anonymous No.6983267]

I said I wanted to make a manga but now that I’m actually learning how to do it, it’s hard to convey my ideas in sequence

[Anonymous No.6983292]

>>6983267
Oh maybe i’m just putting the events in the wrong order. I think I figured it out

[Anonymous No.6983329]

>>6983292
Look into keyframe art. Should help you put things into perspective

[Anonymous No.6983445]

>>6983329
Thanks. I wrote down a lot of ideas over the years about a girl I liked that I wanted to make a manga of but now that I’m actually trying to make sense of the events I’m realizing I should instead only sample from each idea and make up the rest. Basically things that didn’t actually happen seems to help tie things together. I was so focused on “no that didn’t actually happen IRL” that it was locking me up.

[Anonymous No.6983519]

>>6982904
>>6982905
>>6982909
Just because you can’t comprehend the context, doesn’t mean it’s not there. You, the audience is supposed to bring something to the table when receiving and processing art instead of lazily letting it do all the work for you.

[Anonymous No.6983527]

>open thread
>anons complain and argue about mundane shit
>nobody draws anything in thread
>Thread offers something worth drawing
>I draw said thing
>Feel immensely superior for the sole act of drawing instead of complaining and arguing
I've never felt like this before, it's weird...

[Anonymous No.6983540]

>>6981917
Hey we had some good shit in this thread scroll up >>6983527

Also yes just by drawing you're automatically superior to the arguing no draws, that's a normal feeling

[Anonymous No.6983567]

>>6983540
My bad, I dont mean this thread specifically (I actually drew on that pic too lmao). This thread is very comfy and the collab makes it extra comfy.
But yeah, there's this odd feeling of superiority when you think about the fact you could've been arguing on this board instead of drawing, yet you arent.
>that's a normal feeling
Still, it's pretty funny to feel like this. Shit feels good, I guess.

[Anonymous No.6983570]

>>6982904
>>6982909
the most you'll get from me is an anime girl in perspective, in a void. i'm not learning how to draw buildings/backgrounds

[Anonymous No.6983581]

I've been really frustrated with my art recently.

For one: I'm really slow, and it's not like my work is that complex. I tried working within time-limits but all that lead to was a bunch of half-finished, wonky, pieces.

Second: I feel like my art just looks... Soulless? idk. Guys like Ryo Sumiyoshi and Masamine Shirow are my biggest inspirations and they're work is VERY expressive.
Like the characters are just gushing with emotions and I just never quite hit that, all my chatacters are just a tad too stiff to seem real.

[Anonymous No.6983699]

>>6978645
wtf I thought this was watercolor talk

[Anonymous No.6983732]

>>6983581
Probably you're too worried to make them look "right" and so you lose part of the emotion
If you look at Shirow comics (I mean the real ones, not the post mortem porn) he usually went full blown silly cartoon faces and gestuality, you can try to do that during construction and maybe it will help

[Anonymous No.6983782]

>>6983527
my mistake king, you dropped this :crown emoji:

[Anonymous No.6983790]

>>6983527
>open thread
>anons talk about fun shit
>Thread offers something worth drawing
>I draw said thing
>no one seems to care
I hate this feel, it sucks...

[Anonymous No.6983851]

Had a random thought, so many IC posters always talks about "appeal" and "soul" and how it's preferable to mass produce slop, but when something like Genshin impact or FOTM or take your pick, when it succeeds and hass mass appeal and millions of fans or popular twitter artists who have lots of followers

suddenly IC shits on it like it's garbage even though it succeeded to capture the masses and multiple artists who drew fanart for it etc.

So what the hell is the standard here? Do you wanna make it? or does making it mean suddenly you're producing generic slop? So much cope and resentment on here sometimes.

[Anonymous No.6983860]

>>6983851
The people your talking about are shitposters. You think actual artists have the time to make countless threads about arbitrary shit designed to bait?

Do yourself a favor and try to spot bait threads. Shit with buzzwords like soul/appeal/whatever, gender wars, politics etc.

[Anonymous No.6983895]

>>6983851
>So what the hell is the standard here?
Chinless contrarianism, so basically like in every other board.

[Anonymous No.6983901]

I hate that art like this gets x100 more likes than anything i've ever posted.
But I guess this looks refined and stylized enough, mine still has "unconfident" lines.

[Anonymous No.6983906]

>>6983901
Looks like a meme or internal joke, art is not liked for how good it looks half the time I do hope you understand that much

[Anonymous No.6983917]

How do you guys deal with burnout?

[Anonymous No.6983924]

>>6983519

There's no context to be had for an anime girl standing, composition cut at the knees, turning 3/4ths of the way, looking at the corner to the viewer, expressionless. It's like you took the first idea that came into your mind and ran with it rather that going through exploration. Absolutely no excuses here.

[Anonymous No.6983929]

>draw half a head
>mirror it

everyone does this, right? No human being on earth can draw a perfectly symmetrical oval every time, right?

[Anonymous No.6983930]

>>6983929
I just avoid drawing straight on faces...

[Anonymous No.6983932]

>>6983917
You can do two ways: you either rest or try to bruteforce through
In general, if it's not a commission or work on general it's better to wait.

[Anonymous No.6983942]

>>6983929
You're doing construction wrong
1 draw a wonky head to check the position
2 draw a good circle on it
3 draw the mandible line
4 eye line
5 vertical line

[Anonymous No.6984123]

Shit, I think I'm burned out too
Fuck

[Anonymous No.6984188]

How do you know if it’s burnout? I stopped drawing because you people told me I was NGMI. But maybe it was burnout.

[Anonymous No.6984207]

where the hell are the communities of people that just paint in oils?No digital bullshit, no anime, no vidya 'concept art', no furries and other degenerate coomer shit.

[Anonymous No.6984208]

Do you all have a side hobby to switch to when you feel burnt out? I like scratch building models from plastic scraps; it’s very soothing.

[Anonymous No.6984213]

>>6984208
I tried cross stitching but I got bored of it. I wanna try crochet now
In the meantime I do tiny watercolor vignettes for my mom

[Anonymous No.6984215]

>>6984123
>>6984188
No shame in taking breaks fellas. Sometimes walls are there to lean on instead of climb.
>>6984207
If you have a college in your town there’s likely an art group. Or you may be lucky and have a community center that hosts painting sessions.

[Anonymous No.6984226]

>>6984207
I don't know, and I had the best luck talking to people in real life. I post in trad and some other threads but don't always get the best feedback. One great artist you know irl who can give direct feedback about your work and whose opinion you trust is better than ten thousand random crabs online.

[Anonymous No.6984228]

>>6984208
I like taking pictures of nature when I go walking.

[Anonymous No.6984247]

>>6984207
You could just make the community and shill it on the /trad/ general on this board. Just make a discord and paint every week or something.

[Anonymous No.6984253]

>>6984215
But I don't want to take a break now

[Anonymous No.6984308]

>>6984253
You could try working with a different medium and just play around with it. Brush pens are fun. Plus, doing low stakes doodles is a nice way to unwind.

[Anonymous No.6984409]

>>6984247
Discord is for faggot trannies and groomers.

[Anonymous No.6984411]

>>6984308
Ehh the problem is that I can't even do lighthearted doodles
Probably the issue lies in the fact that I kept facetanking stuff all year without letting myself bend the knee an inch, and now that we're at the end I can't avoid the effects of the thought that it was all for nothing. Because it was all for fucking nothing, again.
I'll try to bruteforce something out before Christmas though.

I can't wait to be completely destroyed so I can finally give up my dreams.

[Anonymous No.6984421]

>>6984409
Nachos, fries, and cola are also for trannies and faggots. Why stop at that? Just give them what you like.

[Anonymous No.6984422]

It's weird how much trouble digital drawing gives me compared to traditional.
Like, I HATE how my work turns out in digital for some reason and I've been trying to figure it out for months.

I pulled out a sketch book and doodled a bit and it looked better to my eyes than anything I put out in the past 5 months in Digital.
I genuinely thought I forgot how to draw... It might be good for me to sketch in my sketchbook for a bit every once in a while.

>Why not work in Trad?
It's harder to hide
It's also less convenient and versatile. I wanna make comics and I need to be really fast, and digital offers the most shortcuts

[Anonymous No.6984428]

>>6984409
>Not even willing to make the smallest fucking compromises to pursue hobbies
Stay mad. Good luck, I guess.

[Anonymous No.6984453]

>>6984409
I don't know if anyone told you this, but being a homosexual pedophile adds like [phone] to your powerlevel as an artist.

[Anonymous No.6984457]

>>6984453
this is what grooming is
it can happen to anyone at any age

[Anonymous No.6984460]

>>6984457
Donatello, Leonardo, and Michelangelo would all be hanging out in the shota thread if they were alive today.

[Anonymous No.6984470]

>>6984422
Dont post my wife like that you fucking trad cuck

[Anonymous No.6984481]

>>6984422
Same here. I just can't get over how clunky the process is and how annoyingly unaccurate the pen is with digital. Plus the monitor not having any friction makes me feel like I'm slipping fucking everywhere
In the next few months I'm going to decide if I have to keep bashing my head on this art career shit or its time to throw.
If I quit, I'm never gonna use this shit again

[Anonymous No.6984483]

>>6984460
they would be allowed to draw girls so it would be the loli thread

[Anonymous No.6984647]

>>6981917
don't mind if i do

[Anonymous No.6984651]

>>6981917
don't mind if i do

[Anonymous No.6984858]

>>6984460
no I don't think master splinter would let them

[Anonymous No.6984880]

>>6984858
The dude lets four teenagers stay at his crib rent-free

[Anonymous No.6985170]

>>6984880
Not that he was paying a landlord to stay there himself

[Anonymous No.6985173]

>>6984651
kino

[Anonymous No.6985263]

>>6984651

[Anonymous No.6985309]

I was struggling to come up with ideas until a fly flew into my room. I live out in the country so these fuckers are a lot bigger and much stronger than the city variety. They also shit out their eggs if I crush them so I have to use spray every time. Well I finally noticed something peculiar. Everytime I sprayed a fly, I noticed my drawing skills got better. After this I'd spray the room before every drawing and pumped out some cool shit. Told my doctor, because I had a headache for 2 days in a row, and he told me to stop.
I'm not gonna. Motherfucker is jealous of my gains, I could see him miring my signature.

[Anonymous No.6985417]

>>6983942
thank you

[Anonymous No.6985420]

>>6984422
draw huge on digital and then scale it down when you're done.

[Anonymous No.6985424]

>>6984651
first the toilet paper, now this?

[Anonymous No.6985428]

>>6984422
theres a lot of digital artists who keep normal sketchbooks bro, it's a good practice anyway so don't abandon it and keep praticing in digital too

[Anonymous No.6985441]

>>6985309
which spray?

[Anonymous No.6985444]

>>6985441
Mortein.

[Anonymous No.6985445]

>>6985309
this gay ass website cracks me up sometimes man go gettem anon

[Anonymous No.6985446]

>>6985424
I don't even understand what that brown stuff is supposed to be

[Anonymous No.6985449]

>>6978695
why would they care?

[Anonymous No.6985454]

Jeez Christmas is almost here and it just doesn’t feel like December at all. Hardly seen anything Christmas related online that’s in your face blatant

[Anonymous No.6985457]

>>6985454
As it turns out, throwing a consumerist holiday during an international economic depression is not such a good idea.

[Anonymous No.6985477]

>>6985457
Yeah, I feel it. My city usually puts up a bunch of lights everywhere. Nothing this year.

[Anonymous No.6985485]

How do you guys manage your time for study/personal arts?

I find it hard to balance when my mind is set to "i will study all these things" but me being beg means i can only draw so much in my free time. Hell, it took 30 mins for me to copy a mannequin without fucking up the proportion. But at the same time i'm also aware that i need to provide time to just draw for myself so i can keep enjoying it and giving my little brain cooldown time to process all that studies

[Anonymous No.6985508]

>>6985485
Horribly

but when I could prioritize better, I usually studied things immediately relevant to what I want to do/where I want to go and tried not to think about it too much. To me, when you want to learn something and you overthink every step about it then you're not in the headspace to actually learn because you're too busy trying not to make errors. I ultimately try to treat things one step at a time, as simply as possible, "I will make this line" and then follow that up with the smallest action instead of thinking, "I have to not fuck up everything".

[Anonymous No.6985527]

>>6985263

[Anonymous No.6985531]

I haven't drawn in three days though I have been productive with my other crativity works. Yet I still feel like shit

[Anonymous No.6985533]

>>6985531
Whats stopping you from drawing now?

[Anonymous No.6985536]

>>6985533
Only one hour left before bed time, or so it was my excuse. You're right, I'm going to draw now

[Anonymous No.6985543]

>>6985536
That's the spirit, anon!

[Anonymous No.6985561]

>>6985454
For me it feels like I've grown out of Christmas

[Anonymous No.6985563]

>>6985454
>>6985457
>>6985477
there were celebrations during simpler times too. In your own house you can do decorations, even make xmas food/sweets that are your personal "must haves". I got a giant "pine tree" candle so that's been pretty nice (real trees are too expensive and cumbersome, got a plastic one last year)

Theres traditions that you can do (or start) that are cheap or free

[Anonymous No.6985570]

I feel like I'm getting dumber and dumber each day.

[Anonymous No.6985572]

>>6985570
I got covid twice and each time I think I lost 1million braincells.

[Anonymous No.6985581]

>>6985572
I got it 3 times. And I really feel like a retard now. I remember when I was a kind of nerd in the past, but now nothing.
Also I had a period where I didn't draw in my nerd years.

[Anonymous No.6985585]

>>6985570
me too, can't concentrate for shit
I don't even have tiktok and actively avoid any videos under 25min
didn't have covid as far as I know but a lot of people are complaining that it fucked them up like >>6985572
At the time when it was new I remember a japanese institution was doing a study specifically on it's affects on young brains

[Anonymous No.6985592]

>>6985585
Did the study give anything at the end?

[Anonymous No.6985605]

>>6985592
it's not done yet.. takes a ton of time because for those kinds of studies you need to have time pass and it needs to be substantial to qualify it as long-term.
If I remember correctly the japs are doing the study for kids and people up to 25yo and theres other countries doing similar studies

So far we've only confirmed that the isolation fucked up school kids, that there definetly is long-term "brain fog" but not "brain damage" (and for that we are not sure if it's caused by exclusively mild and severe cases (so the effects of the disease) or is the virus itself the culprit)

[Anonymous No.6985607]

with the recent jocat shit i seem to be misunderstanding what the line between objectification and "being gay for women" is because as far as I can tell I can draw a big tittied waifu and as long as I don't say "i violently jack off to this character" it seems like that means it'll go over fine??? even if the character looks like the type that people 10 years ago would have bitched about. i seriously dont get it

[Anonymous No.6985610]

>>6985605
I see. Thanks for the explanation

[Anonymous No.6985613]

>>6985607
You can make people agree on awful shit just because of the way you say it. It doesn't apply only to art.

[Anonymous No.6985619]

General moroseness, insomnia and an inability to envision a positive future has an iron clutch on my shitty soul

[Anonymous No.6985626]

>>6985454
>>6985457
>>6985477
we’re doing christmas as usual, even though everything else everyone’s dealing with is next-level crazy. it helps that it’s an old well-worn pattern we can just fall into without having to think about, around our current daily immediate concerns. but yeah, i love christmas themed stuff online and in public spaces and things, so it’s too bad if this isn’t happening, really. doesnt matter to me if it’s consumerist, it’s just an envelope for making incommunicado family members touch base once in many months. i’m one, and owe my family to show my face a little, because i know they care about me and like me, and i like them, but i’ve avoided them because i’m going through a lot of bad shit that i don’t know how to broach with them. /blog

[Anonymous No.6985633]

>>6985626
You gonna touch your family?

[Anonymous No.6985764]

>>6985607
jocat was just really fucking weird about being gay for women and the vibes produced by that song were so horrendous people couldn't help but feel like a creep wrote it

[Anonymous No.6985771]

>>6985764
>>6985607
I wholeheartedly REFUSE to understand anything about this stuff. I don't want any of that info lobotomy shit in my fucking brain

[Anonymous No.6985772]

>>6985607
the way I see it jocats situation was because he doesn't usually draw big titty waifus and acts like one of those uwu basedboy male feminists, for lack of a better word. I mean, the guy makes a big deal about the male gaze when watching the GTA trailer. so then his audience spills into the people who walks on eggshells over male gaze "looking at titties is objectification" stuff and he got hit for his song having parts that appreciate thighs and titties.
if he was telepurte or anyone else who makes titty content on the regular the people harassing him wouldn't have bothered.

[Anonymous No.6985784]

>>6985771
Based

[Anonymous No.6985797]

>>6985772
Sounds to me like he got what he was asking for. If your bringing your beliefs and politics into your online life you have to activrly discourage and weed out extremists. You have to be pretty terminal to demonize all objectification and he sounds like he catered to those exact extremists. Pepple who udnerstand nuance and don't sre things black and white don't hang around people who are absolutist and preach in black and white

Tl;dr he chose his company

[Anonymous No.6985799]

>>6985797
Pardon my aneurism, it's cold out I can't feel my fingers or brain

[Anonymous No.6985850]

New nib day awww yiss

[Anonymous No.6985852]

>>6985850
What

[Anonymous No.6985886]

>>6985852
Replacing a worn pen nib, always feels good, drawing feels smoother

[Anonymous No.6985896]

Technically been drawing for 6 years but took a 4 year grap due to depression+master's . Jumping back into it and feeling the grove is the main challenge now. Can't really care about if my drawings are good or not yet

[Anonymous No.6986012]

>>6985886
fuck yeah
someone understands

[Anonymous No.6986016]

>>6985886
Facts

[Anonymous No.6986017]

>>6985896
Then dont

[Anonymous No.6986035]

Anyone know how to get a jagged edge on a selection in csp? Like I want my edges to have a sort of extreme aliased look. But large for stylistic reasons, as if it were pixelated but it's not. Any way to accomplish this? Similar to pic

[Anonymous No.6986093]

Maybe I was a little bit too uhh what’s the word for it….uhm…………

[Anonymous No.6986095]

>>6986093
Oh pooeysticks I forget what I was going to say.

[Anonymous No.6986112]

>>6985527

[Anonymous No.6986149]

>>6985607
>jocat
Let's be honest: this entire thing is Lizzo's fault for making that original shitty music to begin with.

[Anonymous No.6986236]

>>6985896
Dunno man, me myself I think I completely lost the groove along the way of those ten years I didn't draw. And it's not the groove, I just became too shitty and too faithless to still have something like a groove. If you haven't changed too much, you'll find it back in no time

[Anonymous No.6986250]

I think "asian jeans" (sic) would be a cool name for a band. Anyone else?

[Anonymous No.6986264]

>>6986112
lol some of you guys are hilarious

[Anonymous No.6986291]

>post work on deviantart
>get decent amount of favs
>check out some off the account’s favorites folder
>it’s all turbo autism fetish shit
>is this who my drawings appeal to?
>want to nuke my account and kms

[Anonymous No.6986335]

>>6986291
A good chunk of my fetish art has furfags and alphabet people fav'ing it when my stuff is anything but. That's just the price you pay for getting known and there's nothing you can do about it.

[Anonymous No.6986345]

>>6985886
>go to change nib because mine is worn
>no new nibs
>have to wait weeks for order of new nibs to come in
back to drawing with shitty worn out nib

[Anonymous No.6986353]

>>6986345
Where do you order your nibs?

[Anonymous No.6986387]

>>6986353
Amazon usually. But also I'm Canadian so our shipping takes forever.

[Anonymous No.6986438]

I really hope that by the end of the upcoming year I'll be able to be the kind of person who gets Birthday wishes and art gifts from art peers online. I see other people get it and I really want a taste of what it would be like.

[Anonymous No.6986514]

>>6986438
I hope you get it anon

[Anonymous No.6986642]

I really hate feeling resentful but I can't help it.
It really does feel like the rich live in a world seperate from us "normal" people. They get to live actual lives while we work for 35 years before we wither away and die...

[Anonymous No.6986653]

>>6986642
>Hide a knife in your jacket
>Go to a rich zone
>Stab the person that looks the most wealthy in the neck 45 times when you have it close enough
Your welcome.

[Anonymous No.6986706]

>>6986642
Anon, I know rich people. They don't live in the way you think they do at all. Someone illustrated it quite nicely when they said in this age the only difference between the poor and the rich is the latter having more sticks. It doesn't matter. They live like degenerates, fucking highclass whores while you beat off to pixels, living in big houses while you shiver in your tiny apartment, and pissing in a golden bowl while you, well, piss in a normal bowl. These are not actual lives anymore than your daily dullness is. Their lives are just as devoid of meanings as the npcs. For every sublime moment you stand before a finished work of art you have been more alive than most men out there. I would never envy them.

I know a guy over 75 who's your definition of being filthy rich, and yet he goes to his office everyday to account for every penny in his masisve wealth. He spends more time at work than I do and fucks one of his many young concubines at night. But I don't think I have ever seen him looking happy, not even once. When having dinner with other people, all he talks about is work, money, some politics, never any personal interests. You don't want to live that life.

[Anonymous No.6986708]

>>6982873
It's more than OK, drawing backgrounds is suspicious behavior.

[Anonymous No.6986712]

>>6986706
>this nigger seriously used the word concubine in the year 2021
you were probably thinking “my writing is stylistically good” as you were typing all of this dumb shit, are you the cringe faggot who used “she” to refer to art in the other thread?

[Anonymous No.6986713]

>>6986706
The only interesting part is fucking hot bitches.

[Anonymous No.6986717]

>>6986035
>photoshop
>pick the one you prefer
>sharpen
>sharpen more
>sharpen edges
>unsharp mask

[Anonymous No.6986721]

>>6986712
*2023 kekkkk

[Anonymous No.6986724]

>>6986712
>>6986721
Anon is a time traveler

[Anonymous No.6986729]

>>6986712
My favorite thing is trying to shit on someone and making a very retarded error in the comment.
>>6986706
NTA you replied to, but I pray that your intent wasn't to provide some kind of comfort with this. Knowing that their lives lack meaning doesn't really make me think of them as suffering.

[Anonymous No.6986732]

>>6986712
Because that is basically what it is, I'm sorry you can't handle words. I also have no idea who you are talking about. Why are you mad? If you think I'm wrong then just say how, you don't have to invent a fictional version of people you disagree with to strawman.

[Anonymous No.6986740]

>>6986729
>but I pray that your intent wasn't to provide some kind of comfort with this.
Sorry then. I thought by actual lives you meant the freedom to pursue your passions and interests instead of being held back by the daily slaving. We are all slaving, some slave in better conditions, some slave while looking at the stars. I hope you all the best anon

[Anonymous No.6986741]

>>6986732
just say escort or whore or whatever. nigger would you fucking use the word CATAMITE to casually refer to a young homosexual? beg as fuck stylistic mistake, trying too hard

[Anonymous No.6986742]

>>6986653
Congrats, you just stabbed some overdressed poorfag. Richfags don't look rich where you can see them.

[Anonymous No.6986743]

>>6986740
Oh you are not that anon, never mind then

[Anonymous No.6986744]

>>6986742
Deserved

[Anonymous No.6986750]

>>6986741
Because they are neither escorts nor whores but bitches he feeds and keeps in separate houses and visits every so often. I know the concept is foreign for you but soem rich people do this
>>6986742
That poorfag would deserve it for being a vain piece of shit

[Anonymous No.6986751]

>>6986740
That's just one old rich man that's obsessed with his money. He probably dissects hookers or eats black market human organs on weekends, and you're sitting there trying to give him a glaze of humanity.

[Anonymous No.6986753]

>>6986750
yeah these are still called whores or side bitches if you want to be specific

[Anonymous No.6986761]

>>6986751
You would be surprised to know how many rich people are still obsessed with money despite having more than they could ever use. Some outliners yes. But you don't have to be rich to be a cannibal or serial killer. Just have to be smart about it.

[Anonymous No.6986770]

>>6986761

[Anonymous No.6986798]

>>6986744
>>6986750
>fuck rich people
>also fuck whoever gets fucked over by the brainless violence
Flawless portrayal of commie mindset. No notes.

[Anonymous No.6986836]

>>6986706
I mean, I disagree to an extent.
I know a guy by proxy, old African dude, that's so rich and owns companies so far-reaching that influencing politics in neighboring nations and installing favorable Politicians is just casual conversation to him. That guy also lives by the motto
>Every day is a holiday
That is to say he never takes a day off, but loves this business stuff so much he doesn't mind it.
Those people exist, I'm not saying they don't.

>>6986740
Yeah, that is what I meant. Like, the giant palace literally opposite my workplace with 20m high marble gateway and wat looks like the forests of fucking paradise inside owned by the wealthy merchant's son isn't any indication of personal happiness sure but I'd rather be sulking there than in my office's fucking public restroom.

A few squarefeet of that land is worth more than what I've earned my entire life, just the contents of that house as-sold would be worth more than I'll ever earn.
Like, they have the economic freedom to enjoy whatever passions they so please and I DO SEE IT. Especially online.

Artists who went and studied at the best universities, sat in their rich parents house or were given payed-off apartments for "independence".
The shit I work 9 hours a day for they get to enjoy just as a given and I'm having a hard time getting out of this resentful, negative mindset.

[Anonymous No.6986838]

>>6986798
>He took it seriously

[Anonymous No.6986861]

>>6986836
>The shit I work 9 hours a day for they get to enjoy just as a given and I'm having a hard time getting out of this resentful, negative mindset.
To be fair... those are extremely few. Your not gonna be a successful artist if you suck ass. Across all industries (save from tax evasion maybe) the large majority of artists are average joes

[Anonymous No.6986872]

Rich people suck exactly like poor people, often more
Most people that are born into rich families have no fucking backbone and explode into rage and anxiety when things don't go their way, so you should consider yourself lucky for the ounce of balls you got from being a poorfag.
If you're jealous of someone that built their fortune, that's another thing completely, you should take him as example before you're too old to change your life- but like the other anon said- the big difference is living your life for the job you love, and getting rich as a consequence, versus forcing yourself to pursue any way to get rich, that's going to leave you with fucking nothing in the end
And yes, money is fucking nothing. I really don't know from where you guys come from, but I grew up in basically a shack, with the redneck slobs part of my family, and even when my bitch mother married a big dick doctor I ended up living on and off a gypsy life without even house warm water for years, before actually ending up as a hobo and sleeping on the streets, all while the rich part of my family bitched, moaned, and literally backstabbed each other to death for real estate proprieties
So don't take what I say about money as some fairy butterfly new age bullshit, I know what I'm talking about. If you make enough to live you have everything you need to do whateveryou want with your life, the rest is just bullshit perceived as a better life

[Anonymous No.6986880]

>>6986872
>while the rich part of my family bitched, moaned, and literally backstabbed each other to death for real estate proprieties
pretty much. trash ass people will always be trash ass people, and if your born rich the deck is stacked against you hard to become a good person. Good people can enjoy wealth, shit people will just create problems until they're dead and their lives are a trash heap no matter how much they have in their bank.
I have little but if I'd have to sacrifice all the bullshit and growth I've done over the years to be rich I'm turning that shit down so hard - in that case I have plenty. Money can rent you paradise, but it can't buy happiness

[Anonymous No.6986883]

>>6986836
drop me some more blackpills on africa

[Anonymous No.6986896]

>>6986883
Nta, but here's a hard one to swallow: the only consistent chance for the trad wife thing you got in is to marry a niggress or someone else from third world countries.
White people are completely fucked up, specially in Europe.

[Anonymous No.6986905]

>>6986896
>tradwife
>not fucked up mentally
just call it what it is anon, you looking for a servant that can't leave when you abuse her

[Anonymous No.6986906]

>>6986896
>the only consistent chance for the trad wife thing you got in is to marry a niggress or someone else from third world countries
Can't imagine being so unlikable that I'd have to hop continets just to get a bangmaid

[Anonymous No.6986913]

>>6986905
>just call it what literally every human culture and religion had looked for

[Anonymous No.6986915]

>>6986838
Correct, I thought this was a serious discussion about stabbing people and fully expect to see you all in the news in the near future.

[Anonymous No.6986924]

>>6986915
Who is going to stab 45 times in the neck someone they don't even know? lmao

[Anonymous No.6986937]

>>6986883
There are very threatening Billboards South Africa that read something like:
>Save Water... Or line up for it
According to the guy, there's plenty of water, the rich are still filling their pools, it's just a way to threaten and beat the population down and blame them for it.
He also said it's similar to their electricity situation, "Load Shedding". They have the capability to supply the power even during peak, they just won't for political reasons.

[Anonymous No.6987015]

>>6986937
Is the situation in Safrica still like when Johannesburg skyscrapers got invaded by armies of refugees and private security started to get hired by average people to shoot packs of hobos trying neighborhood-wide home invasions?

[Anonymous No.6987021]

>>6987015
There's homeless everywhere, all over PE and Cape. Demographic problems too as more Centeal Africans cross the border for work or to escape tribe/civil wars, can't speak a lick of local, and end up in these gigantic shack hoods as homeless illegals.
IDK about Joberg. Guys' advice was no way, don't go there. He also says whenever he has to go there to do business he flies instead because it's just so dangerous to spend a long time there.

Not being African is genuinely one of the biggest things I'm thankful for. Everyone I know from Egyptians to Ethiopians to South Africans basically describes it as a war-torn shithole.

[Anonymous No.6987022]

How do you keep trying your best when you've lost all faith? I mean, completely
Asking for a friend

[Anonymous No.6987027]

>>6986924
Wasnt there an incel or two that did that? In the UK I think there was aomething that ridiculous like stabbed some old lady 30+ times

[Anonymous No.6987097]

>>6986913
nta yeah this has been happening not because it is morally good on some universal level but just because the human need to control, use and humiliate others is our basest urge and surpasses every other desire. unless humans are taught to do otherwise they are going to do it to other humans forever (regardless of gender but women are easier to control within a family setting, men are being controlled in other ways by other people)

[Anonymous No.6987099]

>>6986896
where in fucking europe do you live? i live in a rural part of a western european country and i constantly have to avoid my boyfriend's "trad" friends and their fucking braindead "trad" neonazi adjacent gfs/wives who are very bad at larping their idea of femininity and want to be "trad" because they have sex trauma. a lot of people say they are trad here

[Anonymous No.6987155]

I am not legally allowed to finish my graphic novel

[Anonymous No.6987169]

>>6987155
The publisher fucked you? What the hell happened man?

[Anonymous No.6987993]

>>6986708
need vol32 wife

[Anonymous No.6988028]

>>6987993
More like need 9mm between the eyes

[Anonymous No.6988032]

>>6988028
9mm of penis maybe

[Anonymous No.6988217]

>>6987027
Bruh

[Anonymous No.6988219]

>>6985797
>You have to be pretty terminal to demonize all objectification
agreed. i don't know about the black and white morals stuff but he seems to have a really low standard on what he considers objectification, so he was bound to find an audience with similarly low standards on what objectification is. if youre open with your big titty drawings and proudly say that you jerk off to your own sketches the people who gets triggered over boobs are going to naturally avoid you in the first place

[Anonymous No.6988221]

New thread
>>6988220

[Anonymous No.6988240]

>>6987099
They are terminally online and just write fanfics on what they think the real world is like

[Anonymous No.6988241]

>>6988240
im terminally in your mom

[Anonymous No.6988244]

>>6988241
I hope you took her out to dinner first or cooked her a nice, romantic meal

[Anonymous No.6988253]

>>6988244
I get straight to the point. I don't do that date night sheit.

[Anonymous No.6988669]

>>6982873
If you can't come up with a decent background idea then yeah, but I'd add some abstract colours so it doesn't look boring.
Background > No background as a general rule, though. Work on your perspective.