/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.6974864]

>porn artist has a complete breakdown and either stops drawing or deletes their entire account. Not even because of getting canceled, it's just random
Why does this happen?

[Anonymous No.6974869]

pornography is a gateway to demonic posession

[Anonymous No.6974870]

>>6974864
drawing too many titties will make you go mad

[Anonymous No.6974879]

>>6974864
>porn artist draws some of the best straight porn to ever grace the internet
>disappears for a few months
>draws exclusively yaoi after they come back

[Anonymous No.6974882]

>>6974879
Drew too much dick, had to ponder, now he's gay

[Anonymous No.6974883]

>>6974869
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirius
The rabbit knows where they hid the easter eggs.
Sirius is a binary star system consisting of two white stars orbiting each other with a separation of about 20 AU[e] (roughly the distance between the Sun and Uranus)

[Anonymous No.6974951]

>>6974883
Kek

[Anonymous No.6974954]

>Why does this happen?
porn is not good for the soul. simple as.

[Anonymous No.6974997]

>>6974864
Drawing a nice ass requires an objective view of reality. It's not uncommon for artists to "fake it till ya make it", stumble upon some truths that aren't prepared to cope with, and randomly be mindbroken by them. Such is life.

[Anonymous No.6975010]

>>6974864
Artists are generally mentally unstable
Twitter multiples that by at least 2 or 3
NSFW on top of that so x2 more
And another x2 if they run a patreon which means pumping out coomslop on a regular basis or else your subs go down the shitter

[Anonymous No.6975068]

>>6974864
porn is easy attention
attention starved artists draw porn
receiving hollow praise from strangers online for porn drawings the artist doesnt even care about is completely valueless and will never fill whatever void the artist has, but they keep trying to make that work until they break
coomers are mentally ill and i dont respect them

[Anonymous No.6975077]

>>6974864
It happens with all artists, you just mostly look at porn

[Anonymous No.6975078]

>>6974864
Because they, like 99% of artists, are mentally ill. They draw porn without purpose or a higher goal. They are shallow and empty. Once they realize this, their ego can't handle it and they self-destruct.
If you do porn as an artist it needs to be a means to an end. It can't be your sole reason to draw, or even worse, your identity as an artist. Use porn/lewd art as a stepping stone to get where you want. Be it followers, clients, or experience.
Once you have what you want, discard it and move on to the shit you wanted to draw from the very beginning.

[Anonymous No.6975080]

>>6974864
They lapped as nips and got caught by thought polices.

[Anonymous No.6975084]

>>6975010
Faggot image

[Anonymous No.6975296]

>>6975077
True but it's a lot more often with the coomfags

[Anonymous No.6975394]

>>6974864
this happened to me
>start drawing porn for lulz
>porn is le profitable they say
>start drawing porn unironically
>get retarded ass commissions from literal subhumans
>hate every retarded retarded porn drawing you make
>years until i could make a reasonable living out of it
>hate drawing
>quit

[Anonymous No.6975395]

ooop wrong pic

[Anonymous No.6975404]

Coom art is like the dark side: it's a quicker/easier path to popularity and money but it eventually corrupts you plus it's not something you generally can show to friends and family so you suffer in silence.

[Anonymous No.6975407]

>>6974864
I deleted my account because I only wanted to see if porn actually did get you a lot of traction. It did, but I also got a lot of coomers running into my DMs and comments asking for weird shit, didn't want to deal with that.
If anything it made me happier to stay modest with my SFW stuff. I just do art for fun so I don't need money from it either way.

[Anonymous No.6975409]

>>6974864
Think about the type of person who becomes a porn artist in the first place.

[Anonymous No.6975427]

>>6975010
Every time telepurte speaks he comes off as a legitimate retard.

[Anonymous No.6975433]

>>6975010
I am all three of those and I'm perfectly fine.

[Anonymous No.6975436]

>>6975433
Post work

[Anonymous No.6975439]

>>6974864
I know a furry porn artist in real life and she has BPD and PTSD due to getting raped and sexually abused by her father. I assume most porn artists are like this so i am not surprised that a lot of them simply disappear

[Anonymous No.6975441]

>>6975407

Pretend to be Japanese. Then you not only wouldn't be able to communicate with english speakers but you wouldn't be able to understand Japanese, too. Especially if you get commissions by Japanese people. Ultimate DOA account.

[Anonymous No.6975445]

Because it is something wrong.
When they finally grow up, they delete their stuff because they regretted doing it in the first place.

[Anonymous No.6975452]

>>6975445
one of the biggest plights of modernity is the idea that sex is trivial, which is simply a lie more and more people are paying for.

[Anonymous No.6975479]

>>6975409
People that like porn?

[Anonymous No.6975480]

>>6974879
Didn't pay the bills.

[Anonymous No.6975485]

>>6975452
>sees post with old painting attached
>this is so trve, 21st century le bad, this is what they took from us :(
except he posted a painting from the belle époque/decadence era, one of the most sexually depraved periods in history, where all sex liberation and queer theories initially originate from, the era of prostitution and sex cult leaders, a time when dignity and respect for the human body meant fucking nothing and people were considered as disposable garbage

[Anonymous No.6975491]

>>6975441
>Kawaii desu! Ching chong me dlaw poln!

[Anonymous No.6975500]

>>6975068
This

[Anonymous No.6975506]

>>6975485
>except he posted a painting from the belle époque/decadence era, one of the most sexually depraved periods in history, where all sex liberation and queer theories initially originate from, the era of prostitution and sex cult leaders, a time when dignity and respect for the human body meant fucking nothing and people were considered as disposable garbage
respectfully, that is a red herring and has nothing to do with my statement. that said, the painting itself nor the story of Pygmalion and Galatea is sexually depraved (funnily enough Pygmalion denounces harlots from the outset).

[Anonymous No.6975508]

>>6974869
This

Or at the very least, whacking it all the time leads to demotivation and/or depression

[Anonymous No.6975522]

>>6974864
Did this when I overloaded myself with commissions that took over a year to finish. This paired with the grief of losing people IRL and winding up in a shitty environment led me to burnout. I'm trying to revive my account now but it's been rough when you've been inactive for so long the algorithm mistakes you for a new account, and you don't show up in people's feeds anymore. I don't even get any interactions from clients I grew close with in the past. I can guarantee you their disappearances have more to do with their IRL circumstances than it has with art, most of the time.

[Anonymous No.6975523]

>>6975506
i'm just saying there is a pattern of anti-modernity niggers illustrating their retarded theories with visuals from and cultural references to the victorian/edwardian era, or worst of all the fucking roman empire. if you were teleported there you would label the people there as degenerate faggots and immediately kill yourself.

>nor the story of Pygmalion and Galatea is sexually depraved
the most popular depiction of the myth being ovid's retelling in metamorphoses, i invite you to read ovid's ars amatoria and see for yourself whether ovid had a problem with sex or not. interestingly enough he was writing in an era where octavian was deploying strict measures to fight sexual depravity, except no one gave a fuck and everything went back to normal as soon as he died. prostitution, adultery, eunuch sex slaves dressed as women, the culture of the roman empire. you think this has anything to do with modernity?

[Anonymous No.6975524]

>>6975394
I've always and do like drawing porn, but nothing crazy. I was thinking of streaming on Picarto, but damn, it seems like a weird place. Doesn't help that another artist friend who streams there tells me of a really fucked up commission he did for someone. I just want to draw the mainstream/vanilla stuff with maybe a bit of BDSM.

[Anonymous No.6975530]

>Me and my friends watching drama and moralfaggotry and Jewry when we just think it's funny and hot to have a guy getting raped by a pack of werewolves with big tits and maybe we can buy video games from doing it.

[Anonymous No.6975531]

>>6975523
>i'm just saying there is a pattern of anti-modernity niggers illustrating their retarded theories with visuals from and cultural references to the victorian/edwardian era, or worst of all the fucking roman empire. if you were teleported there you would label the people there as degenerate faggots and immediately kill yourself.
the image wasn't to illustrate my point, I just like it and the story. though again, the story isn't sexually depraved anyways.
>the most popular depiction of the myth being ovid's retelling in metamorphoses, i invite you to read ovid's ars amatoria and see for yourself whether ovid had a problem with sex or not.
I don't say this to be a pretentious fag, but I have read a good amount of Ovid in Latin - from his Amores to the Ars Amatoria to parts of his Metamorphoses and even his later letters. he is a very whimsical writer to plays around with sex a lot: that still doesn't mean the story of Pygmalion and Galatea is somehow sexually depraved. it's not like a writer can't write a bunch of risque literature and also more earnest literature about love. and just because I appreciate one picture and story famous in a culture doesn't mean I think the culture as a whole is a perfect model for how people should conduct themselves.

[Anonymous No.6975546]

>>6975531
okay but you are bitching and crying about modernity being sexually depraved, when what you see as sexual depravity is a universal historical phenomenon. the only cultures that have managed to successfully repress it have done so through such violent measures (usually involving some mix of despotism and/or fearmongering, brainwashing) that it is arguably not worth it. but even if you think it's worth it, the very idea that sex = modernity = le bad is easily disproven by an analysis of sexual behaviors in different historical societies.

[Anonymous No.6975560]

>>6975546
sure sexual depravity can be found everywhere, though that's only part of my original point. my main point is that sex is very trivialized. at least in the US where I'm from there are clear cultural shifts from previous generations; marriage and sex was more sacred and porn was not as widely dispersed and created. I think the sexual revolution is clear evidence of that.

[Anonymous No.6975583]

>>6975560
it feels like that to you in the US because American morality originates from the earliest protestant quaker settlers who founded it, you're basically coming out of the prot cave

[Anonymous No.6975589]

>>6975583
I certainly wouldn't rule out my own bias, but there are statistics about marriage and public opinions about sex which support the idea that sex is more trivialized. also, again, the sexual revolution implies a time where such sentiments and behaviors were done less and less promoted publicly.

[Anonymous No.6975593]

>>6975589
Of course things are changing and it's weird, scary and degenerate but that's basically how every other culture has been like through history up to and including today
The only reason it wasn't like that in america is the heightened influence of protestant morality

[Anonymous No.6975606]

>>6975593
I wouldn't say change in itself is degenerate, and it would be absurd to think that any given culture will stay exactly the same as time goes on, my only point is that this degree of trivialized sex is having clear negative effects on society. though it seems more and more people are wiseing up to the fact.

[Anonymous No.6975613]

>>6975589
if you give a fuck about marriage so much just marry a christian or a muslim. why are you so affected by other people’s lifestyles? your views on all these topics we are talking about are a matter of your personal worldview and experience and do not reflect universal human necessity and morality. it’s immature and extremely arrogant of you to think social deviation from what you subjectively like and what you personally want is some kind of objective universal deviation from how human societies should be, the direction human societies should evolve towards. who the fuck are you? why should people change to cater to you, exactly?

[Anonymous No.6975616]

>>6975606
this is your opinion

[Anonymous No.6975620]

>>6975616
ultimately, while I wish it weren't the case, I do not believe there is an objective sense of 'negative', so you are right. that said, in general, I think it's one of those things that most people themselves would at some point agree with on some level. it's like that meme of a guy on his death bed saying "I should've argued online more" or whatever it is.
>>6975613
>why are you so affected by other people's lifestyles?
I wouldn't say I'm up in arms or anything, I'm not inclined to necessarily tell people how to live, though I still have my views about it.
>why should people change to cater to you, exactly?
they shouldn't, but again, I never said they should.

[Anonymous No.6975622]

>>6975560
sex is not sacred. it’s a biological act. the reason what is happening right now seems so shocking to you is because a false idealized view of sex has been built in the first place, now this dynamic is being reversed and people are taking it too far. but these people are just like you, both of you are putting sex on a pedestal and ideaizing it in a different way. a time will come when people will just view it for what it is, an instinctive physical act that you may or may not be attached to and emotionally affected by.

[Anonymous No.6975625]

>>6975622
*idealizing

[Anonymous No.6975650]

>>6975622
>sex is not sacred. it’s a biological act
if your point is that it is not a given for a person to see sex as sacred, I agree.
>shocking
to clarify, I do not find it shocking. even some of the things I have seen done or promoted which I might describe as visually shocking I would not say is shocking in the sense that it is unbelievable that anyone would engage in or promote that behavior. on the contrary I see these things not only as hypothetically possible but reasonably probable in terms of human behavior. though I do find a lot of it damaging to society, and now or at some point in the future I think people will admit or feel it on some level. for instance, you have a lot of men who admit that they are obsessed/addicted with porn but would ideally be in an actual relationship and find it hard to break away from their screens. there are other examples, and of course there are exceptions, but in general I would maintain these things. though I realize others will disagree.

[Anonymous No.6975653]

>>6975452
this is literally just ancient hentai

[Anonymous No.6975705]

>>6975613
You sound like you should kill yourself. What a blubbery loser faggot you are.

[Anonymous No.6975709]

>>6975622
Very reddit of you to say.

[Anonymous No.6975719]

>>6975653
how so?

[Anonymous No.6975720]

The only people who see sex as sacred are virgins.

[Anonymous No.6975721]

>>6974864
This happened to me. Had 10k likes on every drawing minimum, people were begging to commission me. All I felt was shame, and I thought shame was such a negative feeling. But I'm glad I felt shame. I feel so free now drawing whatever I want, whether it has a cute girl in it or not. I can show my art to my friends and family proudly. I work with gamedevs and book deals with no issues. I am glad I stopped, fuck porn

[Anonymous No.6975906]

>>6975721
Based

[Anonymous No.6975911]

>>6975721
Good for you

[Anonymous No.6975929]

>>6975522
You're not alone. We'll make it (back) anon.
>>6974864
For me it's a mix of generalized depression, dissatisfaction with my art skill, or frustration with not getting proper credit for my work. The fact that a cunk of it is porn has fuck all to do with it. I just love drawing, no matter the context, and have drawn all sorts of typical art school pieces as well as "wholesome" art like pet portraits and greeting cards, but as a permavirgin with who falls in love with cartoon characters, drawing porn of characters I like is something I genuinely enjoy. Outside of that I live a morally straight, borderline puritanical life (I don't even pirate art instruction), so I'm not sure what kind of Amish upbringing one would've experienced to feel that their "soul" was somehow tainted by drawing toon titties or some anime character eating animal dung. Well, I guess if you were making hit piece art with the intent of degrading a real person, I could see feeling guilty about that.

[Anonymous No.6975953]

>>6975721
lol this is such a lie, as if drawing porn even prevents people from getting employed these days anyway

[Anonymous No.6975973]

>>6974864
I just finished my first commission and it was a pretty enjoyable experience desu. the client was quite chill and loved the end piece. first time drawing porn that's more than a naked 1girl too
I'll just keep it like that, drawing my usual sfw and erotica until someone pays me to draw benis in bagina. I'll be alright

[Anonymous No.6976063]

>>6975010
titty-induced depression

[Anonymous No.6976496]

>>6975953
porn deters a lot of people just like drawing furry stuff does
they just won't tell you, you'll only hear the degenerates encouraging you to ruin your art progress

[Anonymous No.6976972]

>>6975010
>12k a month on Patreon
Damn.

[Anonymous No.6977055]

>>6976496
It's an open secret that the more competent an artist is, the more fucked up their fetish. You'll have to support your claim with evidence.

[Anonymous No.6977153]

>>6975622
And why the matrimony wouldn't be sacred just because sex is a biological act? This doesn't make any sense, one thing doesn't affect the other one. You're misunderstanding how things work and what they are.

[Anonymous No.6977313]

>>6977153
nobody said anything about matrimony

[Anonymous No.6977916]

>>6977055
>It's an open secret that the more competent an artist is, the more fucked up their fetish
lol is this how you cope with being a degenerate nog

[Anonymous No.6978343]

>>6974864
Bump

[Anonymous No.6978359]

>>6975709
>he used the buzzword

[Anonymous No.6979138]

>>6974864
I did this, a couple times, after taking a break and realizing how soulless my art, repeat.

[Anonymous No.6979158]

>>6974864
It is funny seeing a nsfw artist's sfw works being soulless sci-fi / fantasy slop. so much for being freed from the shackles of porn

[Anonymous No.6979168]

It's a fate worse than death, they got married.

[Anonymous No.6979287]

>>6975452
It is trivial, you may want to think it's not and I certainly did for a long time, but through all of human history people have been fucking like rabbits completely devoid of any morals or ethics. Nowadays we're just a lot more brazen with how we talk about it. In fact in the medieval times people would fuck in the same room as their kids or friends and then afterwards all sleep in the same bed. It's always been fucked and if you're hard wired to not be a sexual deviant, unfortunately this world wasn't made for you and it never has been.

[Anonymous No.6979452]

>>6979287
If we let nature take over there would be rampant rape and canabalism
Sometimes it's good to repress.

[Anonymous No.6979453]

>>6979158
Genre fiction is just porn of the intellect.

[Anonymous No.6979463]

>>6979287
>in the medieval times people would fuck in the same room as their kids or friends and then afterwards all sleep in the same bed
I’m not sure the extent to which this happened and its other particulars, but even if we agree that it was the norm for many medieval societies, with all due respect, I do not see how people allowing their children or friends see them have sex is an example of people being “completely devoid of any morals or ethics”; it doesn’t mean they didn't treat it very seriously in other ways
>sexual deviant
depends on what you mean. obviously people are hard-wired to reproduce, but that’s not sexual deviancy to me. beyond reproduction I’m much more hesitant to say people are “hard-wired” to do the things they do in regards to sex
to clarify, the active treatment of sex and sexuality (like sexual deviance) is only part of the issue. the other part is the passive effects it has on individual people and society at large regardless of our intentions. this is where things like porn addiction, declining birth rates, declining relationships, shams of polyamorous "relationships", and other things come into play

[Anonymous No.6979648]

>art shouldn't embrace real human emotions and prompt reflection of how one views their own desires
>art should only be state propaganda to brazenly attempt to reinforce nuclear family structures

yeah fuck off puritans
i will draw you one trad wife shopping for white bread as a treat

[Anonymous No.6979667]

>>6975622
IT'S ALL JUST MICROSCOPIC BALLS COLLIDING AGAINST EACH OTHER xxDd

[Anonymous No.6979672]

>>6979648
Being called a puritan sounds a lot cooler than being called s cumbrain.

[Anonymous No.6979677]

>>6979648
Pantsu ripper is the prime example of porn destroying one's soul

[Anonymous No.6979683]

>>6979648
>>art shouldn't embrace real human emotions and prompt reflection of how one views their own desires
lofty a goal as that is, that is far removed from the average porn artist's intentions. and I would bet that for those who say they do have a more earnest philosophical motive for their art, some portion is just rationalizing their coomerism
>>art should only be state propaganda to brazenly attempt to reinforce nuclear family structures
no one here is saying that

[Anonymous No.6979687]

>>6974864
Its kinda a lot of pressure to draw porn its taboo so everyone you know will despise you for it, including family and friends. So yeah without a support net people go crazy who knew

[Anonymous No.6979714]

coom too much on their own supply and eventually get giga post-nut clarity.

[Anonymous No.6979715]

I'm a bit sickened that I find this thread to be halfway decent by 4chan standards. I've been here so long I can't remember the last time I was actually engaged with what people had to say on here...

[Anonymous No.6979780]

>>6979687
only if you're american

[Anonymous No.6979797]

>>6979715
>>6979077
hard times create. . . how did that meme go?

[Anonymous No.6979838]

>>6974864
Muslim/conservative christian parents finding your coomer art
True story

[Anonymous No.6980041]

>>6979452
I agree, I think most people should probably keep their dick in their pants.
>>6979463
What I mean with the medieval example is that people shouldn't look to the past with rose tinted glasses. Sex has pretty much always been a trivial thing. Or some weird mix or trivial and not trivial, like making love to your wife is a sacred act but fucking some whore is just letting off steam. The only difference now is that we completely embrace that triviality, which pulls us into further deviance like the things you talked about. In the past there was religion and community, which sort of kept us accountable in maintaining an image of decency. But it's just an image, we as a society just stopped lying about it because there's really nothing to hold us accountable to our depravity anymore. A lot of people think the past was getting married and having a family and nobody was adulterous and everything was perfect. When in reality the way we think of sex hasn't changed that drastically, we just stopped lying about the way we think. Which is bad, I'm not at all in defense of this hellworld we live in.

[Anonymous No.6980102]

>>6980041
>Sex has pretty much always been a trivial thing. Or some weird mix or trivial and not trivial, like making love to your wife is a sacred act but fucking some whore is just letting off steam
I think we’re talking past each other to an extent, but I will try to be more clear. we can get rid of the word if it makes things easier, but when I say ‘trivial’ I’m not merely talking about having a bunch of sex with whoever you can get your hands on and doing bdsm or whatever (sexual depravity). and even with stuff like that I still am not convinced sex is insignificant. for instance, take a guy finding some random chick he met at a bar or on Tinder (or a few), having sex on the regular with no intentions of a relationship, but then getting pissed off when he learns that she has another fuck-buddy. perhaps there are exceptions, but at least in general I do not believe people can have sex with complete emotional detachment. perhaps we will simply have to agree to disagree on that.

another part of what I'm trying to say is that there are strong consequences for treating sex as if it is something cheap. like mentioned previously, more and more men are getting addicted to porn and are not forming real, meaningful relationships with women – even when they themselves say that they ultimately want that. there are also men who do not want commitment and, through birth control, are more able to avoid it; and when birth control fails, these men are less likely to stay with the woman because they never wanted the child in the first place, so you will get more single moms. and as mentioned earlier, this also contributes to declining birth rates. regardless of whether you believe in an objective morality or not – which I myself, although I wish I thought such a one existed, do not think so – I would think you have to admit that these behaviors and sentiments do not contribute to a zero-sum game, that they do have consequences to individuals and wider society.

[Anonymous No.6982694]

>>6975593
You are a disgrace, and I'm an Atheist.
Fucking sodomite with a hateboner for Jesus, while being permissive of all other opiums of the people.

Commit suicide via dildo.

[Anonymous No.6983046]

>>6982694
I don't agree with them either, but we can be civil about this. if you need to let your anger out get a punching bag or something. or more fittingly draw yourself beating the shit out of someone. two birds one cup.

[Anonymous No.6983152]

>>6979838
The people who did it when you had to scan a physical copy were gods.