/int/ & /beg/ - Intermediate and Beginners Thread

[Anonymous No.6973947]

If you are a /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
Use this thread instead of making new threads or post in the drawthread with fundamental exercises.

>READ THE STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/

>TRY TO BE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK.
When giving feedback, avoid vague "advice" - point what's wrong and try to give the anon you're quoting a clear direction
to improve their art (study heads < watch THIS VIDEO about head structure, read THIS SECTION of THIS ARTIST'S BOOK, etc).
You, feedback seeking anon, should also try to be clear and concise when asking for critique/help.
When posting your artwork, say what you want help with, and what's your goal with the study/artwork.

previous thread: >>6970510

[Anonymous No.6973958]

I won’t be drawing for this thread, either. I know longer draw because you assholes discouraged me.

[Anonymous No.6973967]

>>6973931
The fact you knew to even look in the header files makes you better than 95% of "programmers" out there.

[Anonymous No.6973980]

Self-portrait/balding progress. This is sometime around 2021 at the start of a half hearted attempt to draw that lasted a month

[Anonymous No.6973981]

>>6973967
man... i didn't want to think about it like that, it sounds sad and frightening at the same time

[Anonymous No.6973983]

Current self-portrait with an attempt at shading using hatching after about 5 months of inconsistent practice

[Anonymous No.6973987]

another fuckin failure
will i ever crack it im not so sure anymore
i have hit a big big brick wall

[Anonymous No.6973990]

>>6973987
Hang on, this is way too early to deem a failure. Your not even done blocking out the facial features yet.

[Anonymous No.6973998]

>>6973990
yes but i made the nose accidentally too big
in my first attempt above i was subconsciously confining everything. meaning gradually as i was putting in more lines the proportions got messed up.
in the second attempt below that i remember i should exaggerate the features that give character to the particular person just a little bit but i didnt realise in the beginning that the nose is way too big, i only realised it later. its just ugly now and not what i was going for

[Anonymous No.6973999]

>>6973987
ngmi

[Anonymous No.6974021]

>>6973987
Rileybros...
Its over...

[Anonymous No.6974024]

>>6973987
you might need to practice just the construction and rhythms more (like a lot more, pages of it more) before you render any actual features

[Anonymous No.6974028]

>>6973987
Kek get fucked faggot

[Anonymous No.6974050]

lights fucked up please crit bros

[Anonymous No.6974055]

>>6974050
i'd mainly tell you to study how armor works
the way yours conforms almost exactly to the underlying body gives it a very bland silhouette

[Anonymous No.6974056]

>>6974050
his shoulders are so low

[Anonymous No.6974062]

>>6974055
thanks, it really looks weird now i look at it should have referenced more.

[Anonymous No.6974065]

>draw digitally
>go back to trying to draw on paper
>mentally always ctrl + z but doesn't work


fuck, just realize that I'm abusing that poor control button constantly

[Anonymous No.6974069]

>>6973958
radraccoon, is that you? stop being a bitch and draw. Are you going to let other people decide your life for you?

[Anonymous No.6974079]

>>6973958
im sorry some people in here are mean, theyre just dealing with stuff in their own lives and they take it out on people anonymously over the internet. i think its great that you want to draw and you should keep at it. <3

[Anonymous No.6974087]

[Anonymous No.6974093]

>>6974050

everything about it doesn't make sense

[Anonymous No.6974098]

>>6974087
What kind of exercises do you need to have quads that huge while still rocking a pancake booty?

[Anonymous No.6974099]

But how?

[Anonymous No.6974100]

>>6974099
observation

[Anonymous No.6974123]

Thoughts on this? I still have difficulty with hair and making the shading look more clean

[Anonymous No.6974137]

>6974050

[Anonymous No.6974142]

[Anonymous No.6974146]

What's a normal amount of time to spend on a piece

[Anonymous No.6974148]

>>6974146
200 hours

[Anonymous No.6974149]

>>6974142
Be proud of your cake, girl...

[Anonymous No.6974151]

>>6974148
Ok let's say you spend 12 hours on one but it's because you're figuring stuff out as you go along, is that time well spent?

[Anonymous No.6974155]

>>6974050
you are going to go onto youtube, looks up people fighting in armour, and grab a bunch of screenshots for reference. I got this in like 10 minutes

[Anonymous No.6974157]

>>6974050
forgot to attach the image lol, but youtube has tons of videos of people fighting in full plate armour. Go grab screenshots and use them for reference.

[Anonymous No.6974179]

>>6973958
>know
what did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.6974180]

ref copy

[Anonymous No.6974183]

I need to work on texturing. Finding ref is not the issue as much as being able to apply it.
>>6974151
That sounds pretty close to what I did here. I spent about 6 hours but mostly because I kept having moments where I think an area's good enough only for a few seconds to pass and go "wait, no that's shit." If I reduce those moments next time I say that's time well spent.

[Anonymous No.6974188]

Genuine question, what is the most effective practice method for learning how to draw the head? Is there any excercise i can do everyday or something?

[Anonymous No.6974189]

Day 5 of head/face practice. looking much better, unfortunately I tried to add a body on the left one and forgot what I was doing halfway through.

[Anonymous No.6974202]

>start krenz perspective course
>can't even do the example exercises in the first week let alone the homework

[Anonymous No.6974203]

Any advice?

[Anonymous No.6974215]

>>6974203
imho:
the pose is fine but it feels very cramped with the rectangular composition, especially the wings(?) would like some more space to extend, or maybe overlap with the body, right now it's very flat
the shoes are a bit kids'drawing vibe, copying reference of nice shoes is the way to go. The clothes also lack some detail, like buttons, zippers, patches, stitching, prints...
the face/hair are OK but a bit wonky, you should spend more time and effort on it because it's very central in the piece

[Anonymous No.6974228]

>>6974215
Thank you for the advice.

[Anonymous No.6974237]

>>6974188
Draw the head with correct proportions everyday. Retard

[Anonymous No.6974243]

>6974183

[Anonymous No.6974264]

>>6974149
>girl

[Anonymous No.6974271]

>>6974065
at least you don't try to zoom in by pinching the paper

[Anonymous No.6974275]

i like this goofy one

[Anonymous No.6974276]

How many hours does it take to reach this level of rendering?

[Anonymous No.6974283]

>>6974276
a bunch, also proficiency using different brushes for that dot texture on the suit

[Anonymous No.6974302]

>>6974276
6000

[Anonymous No.6974304]

>>6974276
10000 hours.

[Anonymous No.6974306]

i often get stuck at this phase of a "Somewhat rendered" drawing.
Once i have this kind of rough sketch with values etc established, what do i do? Can somebody recommend som e vids or resources on this critical part of da drawingeg?=

[Anonymous No.6974309]

>>6974276

[Anonymous No.6974317]

>>6974283
>>6974302
>>6974304
>>6974309
It's so over

[Anonymous No.6974326]

>>6974098
>>6974087
Schizophrenic drawing style where I'll temporarily suspend all knowledge of proportions to (temporarily) speed up my drawings to get more mileage in. Other times I will draw way more slowly to try to nail proportions. I switch back and forth between the two regularly. Maybe that's what Nicolaides was referring to? (about sometimes drawing fast, sometimes slow)

Schizophrenic mileage sheet, with an attempt to draw a more well-proportioned booty in the lower left-hand corner

[Anonymous No.6974341]

>>6974137
damn this just looks so much better

[Anonymous No.6974346]

>>6974157
thanks will use these images next time

[Anonymous No.6974352]

critique before I move onto cleanup and rendering?

[Anonymous No.6974353]

>>6974352
Bigger boobs please

[Anonymous No.6974368]

>>6974283
Isn't that just crosshatching or a grid pattern brush?

[Anonymous No.6974378]

>>6974243
So let me see if I got this right:
- Work on environments instead of casting lolis into the void.
- Utilize lighting (bounced and specular) to ground characters into said environment.
- Don't be afraid to go to 100% white as long as it's used sparingly.
- Higher dynamic ranges are more eye catching.
Welp, time to look up composition technique. Thank you.

[Anonymous No.6974422]

>>6973958
You're on 4chan dumbass if a few pixels on a screen would discourage you, you were never gonna make it anyway. Don't let other people effect your ability to draw

>>6973987
Build up mileage try 2-3 more times every day for a month and compare day 1 to day 30

>>6974050
Lighting is a bit dull, the hand holding the sword isn't very clear, you're using too many lines, if you wanna hatch try making the direction consistent like what you did for the armor. I would practice drawing some more figures as well since the pose/proportions feel a bit off but it's not too bad anon, PS armor with eyebrows is a strange choice

>>6974123
The shading wont be clean in a sketch, just shade the hatches in a consistent direction, pretend it's a screentone that you're filling in manually.

>>6974137
Based

>>6974142
pretty good but something about how she's holding the plate makes me feel like you could show the thumb but just a nitpit

>>6974180
goo copy but now make something on your own applying what you learned

>>6974188
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T7cDY7YDsg

>>6974189
push the expressions more

>>6974202
pyw

>>6974203
try to draw a grid/boxes for perspective practice.

>>6974352
looks nice I would try to have him reach further back as if he was going for his own blade but was too late and froze

[Anonymous No.6974425]

trying out sketching with a new brush

[Anonymous No.6974431]

>>6974425
looks exactly the same? I mean nice big tiddy studies but I don't see the difference in the brush

[Anonymous No.6974435]

>>6974431
this brush is supposedly a pencil while the one I used before was a hrb
also, thanks

[Anonymous No.6974459]

>>6974422
im the idiot from the last thread that was trying to put heads in boxes and failing miserably

[Anonymous No.6974468]

>>6974317
Only if you are a pusyy who gives up because it's too hard. Grow some balls and face the universe, dumbass.

[Anonymous No.6974469]

Tried to do a few stylizations from a somewhat realistic portrait to 70s manga to... Whatever the fuck came out last; the second one was trying to stylize something without a point of reference.

[Anonymous No.6974472]

Don't have the link to the references anymore like the pleb I am

[Anonymous No.6974476]

i made some adjustments to the lighting and stuff. tried to create a past between the figures and break up the positioning of the group in back to make it less imposing.
appreciate the critique from last thread, kept the angle because i kind of like it, hoping the lighting adjustments are enough but still feel like there's room for improvement

[Anonymous No.6974478]

>>6974476
*create a path

[Anonymous No.6974482]

>>6974422
Won’t it be just as bad If I let you shitlicking faggots bully me back into drawing?

[Anonymous No.6974497]

>>6974482
Guess so but it's up to you, do what you wanna do. If no one else existed would you still draw? for me the answer is yes cause I feel like it.

[Anonymous No.6974501]

>>6974459
lol oh yeah, I drew some heads using your boxes, did it help? Also keep t up

[Anonymous No.6974505]

Bros I need advice, which colorful medium do I choose? Im mostly drawing with graphite pencil but want to have fun with colors.
inb4
>oil pastel: fun to use, but very shit blending and too quirky
>soft pastel: would be perfection, but I don't want to breathe in fine dust
>color pencils: looks good but I heard they take a fuckton of time, much more than other mediums
>watercolor and watercolor pencils: looks very interesting, preferably the pencils for texture options
>acrylic: don't like tubes, pans seem more convenient
what else is out there? Is color pencil really shit?

[Anonymous No.6974513]

>>6974378
it was just for bit of funny fun/. didn't mean anything by it. she is great

[Anonymous No.6974516]

>>6974505
Brush pens are fun for me but the blending isn't that great for those.

[Anonymous No.6974518]

>>6974276
3

[Anonymous No.6974519]

I drew today.

[Anonymous No.6974520]

>>6974505
Watercolor is pretty fun. You can do the combopack of getting a couple of pallettes you like and couple them with the watercolor pencils, or try the watercolor pens. There's also the option of mixed media, where you're combining multiple forms in one project. You have versatility to add different types of texture and just overall convey different things. Just get creative, man. There's nothing quite like feeling the movement beneath your hands as you're putting everything together.

[Anonymous No.6974529]

>>6974505
Oil paint
Pros: Takes ages to dry, leaving plenty of time to work the paint
Cons: Takes ages to dry, leaving lots of down time when you're ready to move on
>>6974513
Oh well. I needed to train anyway. Not bad for a fun.
>>6974519
This is real rich coming from me, but those irises are huge!

[Anonymous No.6974537]

>>6974505
Colour pencils are fucking amazing if you know what the shit you're doing and don't buy trash.

Watercolour is great but takes a lot of trial and error to figure out what paper, what brand of colours and what brush works for you. Also getting the right amount of water right is an absolute bitch. Gouache can also be an option if you wanna have more opaque, matte liquid colours.

I for one have really started to dig alcohol markers, but don't bother with Copics, get Ohuhu or W&N pro markers. On mixed media paper, you can also combine them with watercolours and regular colour pencils too get fantastic results.

Of course, all of these take practice. And as for "takes forever" - watercolour, gouache and pencils do indeed take a long time to dry before adding other layers and colour large areas respectively, but the results are worth it.

[Anonymous No.6974541]

>>6974529
I've also been thinking about dabbling into oils cause I love the look, is there a way to speed the drying process up?
I'm an impatient fucker.

[Anonymous No.6974552]

>>6973947
>draw left over and over yesterday
>get fed up and shelve it
>draw right today

I mean, I think it looks a little better.

[Anonymous No.6974555]

>>6974529
>>6974520
>>6974537
Do oils and paints (gouache, watercolor) always take some preparation to use, or can I just whip them out at 3 AM when I come accross a photo of an ass just to see if I could capture it in a few strokes?

[Anonymous No.6974563]

>>6974555
For watercolour and gouache kinda. There's travel kits that are designed for just that, they have a few portions of dried up colour and usually have a pen with a built-in water tank that you can fill with sterile water and have it at the ready for just such occasions

[Anonymous No.6974572]

>>6974501
i appreciate everyone who took the time to give me feedback, i'm inching closer to understanding it but long way to go still

[Anonymous No.6974628]

>>6973958
>>6974482
Don't you get embarrassed of yourself? Grow up.

[Anonymous No.6974639]

>>6974555
I just have my shit set up in a couple of lidded bins, my brushes ready to go and hung up, and my watercolor paper off on my shelf. Get a little travel sprayer to rehydrate your paints, a microfiber towel for excess water, maybe a couple of paper towels, and a couple of jars of water (1 for rinse, 1 for adding clean water to the brush). Getting a separate pallette that has plenty of wells is cheap, you can prep it first with a melamine sponge (magic eraser) so that it doesn't just blorb up. Keeping oil pastels off to the side to work on the next part would probably be easier than fiddling with full-blown oil paints though. My patience is ricepaper thin though, so I don't fool with oil paints and all of the accoutrements that come with wanting to use them.

[Anonymous No.6974641]

[Anonymous No.6974642]

>>6974537
Kuretake Gansai Tambi is a nice in between of watercolor and gouache that they could try. The colors can get muddy looking if you fuck with them too much on blending, but they're cheap and a good intro. Heavy ass paper is a necessity

[Anonymous No.6974646]

Didn't draw alot today, but did some morphos. I am still arguring with myself if I should continue morpho, or just use to taco point character drawing to study

[Anonymous No.6974653]

>in the OP again

Fug that's not a good sign

[Anonymous No.6974659]

>>6974641
wow..she is literally me

[Anonymous No.6974660]

Can I get some critique on my proportions and perspective?

[Anonymous No.6974673]

>>6974653
you are doing good, you are pumping out work left and right, bet your wall looks really schizo with all those portraits hanging.

[Anonymous No.6974676]

>>6974653
Agree with >>6974673, good work ethic, cucking hard all nodraws

[Anonymous No.6974683]

Sup beg. Vilppu said gesture is the most important. So here we have a few of them.

>>6973465
>low quality even for doodles
Well you are comparing the final rendered drawing from book about perspective with doodles / gestures on beginning of book about figure drawing. Also i was testing brushes of new app on top of it. But yes, pain with pencil broke me a little. I already love Vilppu book in comparison
>>6974660
nothing to crab there in terms of perspective or proportions. However i will give you 1 probeg tip: disable stabilizer and learn how to draw with just your hand. dont learn with training wheels, it will just give you bad habits
>>6974646
arent the two practically the same books? or are you one of the anons who consider anything asian as automatically better?
>>6974641
thumbs up for lighting effects and depicting realistical bug like eye typical for asians. also she looks dead inside, was that your artistic intention?
>>6974555
there are literally people who whip out mini water color sets and paint on the go in their sketchbook
https://youtu.be/dx-ta439XK8
>>6974425
BOOBA
>>6974275
it always lowkey bothered me when people take fish head and put it 90 degrees angled on human body but thumbs up for creativity
>>6974202
perspective made easy doesnt have this problem
>>6973983
>anon lost all his hair and will to live in just 5 months
RIP. interesting way of how you cross hatch

[Anonymous No.6974687]

>>6974378
by the way, it is sloppy and wasn't untended to be example of anything but this image do not have 100% pure white pixels. not like you can't but image do not have it

[Anonymous No.6974691]

>>6973947
never drawn a goblin before but I saw that thread and wanted to give it a try

[Anonymous No.6974695]

Artists are much more superior to normies and I'm really tired of pretending that we're not.

[Anonymous No.6974698]

>>6974683
damn your linework is shit are you using your wrist to draw these or what

[Anonymous No.6974699]

>>6974698
fwap broke him

[Anonymous No.6974707]

>>6974695
creators will always hold power over consumers

[Anonymous No.6974709]

looking for a good guide/video/whatever for stylizing hair

[Anonymous No.6974710]

>>6974683
btw can you post something that isn't a study? I'm curious to see your finished/sketch work that is a single subject instead of a bunch of figures. Up to you though.

[Anonymous No.6974712]

>>6974691
Uber basado

[Anonymous No.6974713]

>>6974707
not really. creators are consumers servants. always has been

[Anonymous No.6974720]

>>6974713
simply a product of circumstance, comrade.

[Anonymous No.6974721]

>>6974505
Gouache, more forgiving than watercolor or acrylic and cheaper than oil, doesn't need expensive paper like watercolor or canvas, just some stiff illustration board or bristol, that kind of thing. Hell you could use it on cardboard. You can reactivate it at any time with a bit of water if you want to make corrections (although this can also be a bad thing).

[Anonymous No.6974747]

tried doing this entirely in a cube

[Anonymous No.6974748]

>>6974710
lmao you think he can actually draw? the dude literally recommends vilpoo, that should be enough of a hint

[Anonymous No.6974776]

[Anonymous No.6974792]

Im just doing it to get my hours done but im so fucking over being sick rn

[Anonymous No.6974799]

>>6974776
i dont love the colors but i really like the way it's shaded

[Anonymous No.6974801]

>>6974748
Post your gesture
Lets see dem lines

[Anonymous No.6974803]

Update on last work of the year

[Anonymous No.6974819]

>>6974799
Thanks anon, I agree with you on the colors lol tried to redo it

[Anonymous No.6974824]

how would you go about adding more details at this stage? I want to push the contrast/values so that this has depth to it. But at the same time i want to clean this up so that it is a lot more clear. How would you do this?

[Anonymous No.6974833]

>>6974819
previous looks way better

[Anonymous No.6974853]

f

[Anonymous No.6974863]

todays stuff. finally found a style that i thought was nice, so I tried copying it and applying it to my own thing(which came out scuffed). fun stuff

[Anonymous No.6974868]

[Anonymous No.6974872]

trying to learn the neck and shoulders, the clavicle is making me struggle.
What are the proportions of the clavicle? I get confused on when the deltoid muscle begins after the clavicle

also here are some studies on the neck and shoulders I did
any help is appreciated please and thank you

[Anonymous No.6974873]

>>6974868
how did you learn to draw hands and feet, fren

[Anonymous No.6974880]

>>6974873
I googled hand and feet reference and copied a fucking trillion, both from photographs and artists I like

I think I should try the same for boobs

[Anonymous No.6974884]

>>6974880
so just grinded em out, eh? sounds simple enough. i'll do that, thanks.

[Anonymous No.6974891]

>>6974884
crabs don't want you to know this one simple trick

[Anonymous No.6974892]

I used to think I was too good for Loomis but I got the actual book and it's really ingenious the way it escalates the difficulty.
I took a break from the book and tried to apply what I've learned so far. I'm still on blooks so I have a long way to go.

[Anonymous No.6974895]

>>6974884
if you have basic understanding of shapes/construction; you can learn literally anything by just grinding it out.

[Anonymous No.6974899]

>>6974833
damn oh well, anyway here's a drawing I did of a friend's character to remind them to workout lol

[Anonymous No.6974917]

>>6974824
Wish i made a more refined sketch before going in with color. :/

[Anonymous No.6974921]

This is more of a general art question, but why did the 80s/90s art style for anime of semi-realism go out of style?

[Anonymous No.6974926]

>>6974917
You're doing fine anon trust the process and yourself, just keep refining, it's well on it's way

>>6974833
hows this? lol

[Anonymous No.6974928]

Is he right?

[Anonymous No.6974937]

>>6974863
who the artist? I like the volume on the hair

>>6974899
How do you get those gradients? I'm the same anon I think I find this and the previous more pleasant because the values dont go all over the place are kinda grouped

but looking at this one >>6974926 is more easy on the eye but the value range is larger so I don't really now, or maybe just I like that it looks like a daft punk character.

This video throws a bunch of lingo maybe it can be helpful to you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruOWrEUDhcE

[Anonymous No.6974938]

>>6974937
https://twitter.com/dud0220

[Anonymous No.6974939]

>>6974628
I’ve no more reason to be embarrassed than the rest of you.

[Anonymous No.6974945]

Man amputates his arms / hands in vow of never drawing again, they start drawing again by themselves

[Anonymous No.6974946]

>>6974937
gradients? you mean the texture I think? I tried to recreate the black soot brush from Clips studio paint in Sai 2, the settings I used are in picrelated

[Anonymous No.6974950]

cat time but soiled it

[Anonymous No.6974960]

>>6974142

[Anonymous No.6974963]

Here's a Professor Blook to throw on the pile. It's worse than the first few blooks I drew, probably on account of the awkward angle and slightly more complex facial structure. Could be worse, though; I'm not feeling the Loomis demoralization I've seen some /ic/ anons describe. Sorry about the line paper.
I had a little Sonic doodle I posted in another general that I was quite happy with the head on, but Sonic characters are a lot simpler than the blooks in terms of facial geometry. I'm gonna study more Loomis drawings to challenge myself.

[Anonymous No.6974970]

>>6974926
thanks. taking a break today. Might sketch the form of the endoskeleton at work so i can get a better grasp of the anatomy before i return home tomorrow to work on it again.

have you tried gradient maps? got curious and i did this to your original drawing. used color balance, contrast, brightness, and gradient maps to play around with it. not claiming this is better i just wanted to play around with your drawing.

[Anonymous No.6974972]

>>6974306

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OQeRLwipi4

[Anonymous No.6974974]

>can't post files in private mode anymore
What a nigger website

[Anonymous No.6974976]

>>6974970
Thanks I think your color corrections look nice too! I'm actually not familiar with gradient mapping tools. Not sure if it's the same as just messing with layers/brightness/contrast/huesat etc

[Anonymous No.6974979]

>>6974921
my guess is the same reason western animation did, a change in technology made it so that the computer could automate some of the stuff for us. youll notice some anime in the 2000s will have some funny frames where characters in the distance look silly. i think the line weight style was influenced by the change in medium so the art style changed with it. It's like how we went from mickey mouse to calarts style pretty much. Now with better tech, we have more room to play around AND not work ourselves to the bone like with 80s/90s anime. just a hunch. also realistic anime still exists?

[Anonymous No.6974982]

>>6974976
gradient maps basically "map" certain values to a color ( pic related ) working them in combination with opacity or any other layer type is fun.
maybe look into color theory too. i tend to always lean back on analogous or triadic colors. even in my terminator art is technically all analogous. the "green" in it is actually a greyish blue. The only deviating color is the red, but it still counts as analogous.

[Anonymous No.6975043]

>gg

[Anonymous No.6975045]

I'm having trouble drawing creatively from imagination, I have a very loose fragment of an idea of what kind of character I want to draw but when I start trying to draw I start drawing a blank (no pun intended) and I can't get anything down. Also it's like I'm afraid to make marks. Anyone dealt with this and how did you get past it?

How do you prompt creativity and get in the zone?

[Anonymous No.6975046]

>>6975045
Have you tried iterative drawing?

[Anonymous No.6975054]

How retarded am I?

I don't understand appeal.

[Anonymous No.6975069]

The faces i draw from imagination don't turn out as feminine as i imagined them to be.

I want to draw pretty faces.

[Anonymous No.6975071]

>>6974892
I just used his head construction method and try applying it to draw faces
Here's a si.plified portrait of a friend

[Anonymous No.6975075]

>>6974926
Those gradients on the fabric are fantastic

[Anonymous No.6975121]

[Anonymous No.6975150]

Would anyone have any Japanese guide books they would be willing to recommend?

In JP / EN / MTLEN any is fine

[Anonymous No.6975152]

Tried to copy something I saw online, but it rurned out very poorly. Well, I learned some stuff

[Anonymous No.6975153]

>>6975152

[Anonymous No.6975174]

>>6974972
nah

[Anonymous No.6975251]

>>6974352
Colours and shading is my least favourite part.

>>6974422
I tried to move his arm but none of the poses looked right so I swapped the sword around to make the handle closer

[Anonymous No.6975269]

I'm not a beginner but I'm not good either, what book would you suggest I read? I'm trying to get out of my comfort zone

[Anonymous No.6975276]

Any Tradanon's have any experience with inks?
I've been playing around a lot with a dip pen and brush pens recently and I ran into a problem with the winsor and newton gold ink I purchased, it being too viscous to really flow from the dip pen to be precise.
I load it up and I can't even make a single line properly, and if I overload the pen tip it just sticks to the paper in a single droplet instead of flowing evenly. (top right of the image near the forehead is a good example of this)
I ran into a similar problem with the white ink I use where I could just dilute and stir it a little to make it flow more appropriately, however that doesn't seem to work for the gold ink.

I can kind of make it work with a brush where I can actually use the ink for multiple strokes, but I would really like to make thin precise lines as well.


>>6974691
Seriously digging it my dude

[Anonymous No.6975278]

>>6975153
>>6975152
saved and gmi

[Anonymous No.6975282]

>>6975153
thats fucking amazing. Is that watercolor? or sumi ink?
>>6974970
love your art
>>6974099
ironically this makes total sense to me after learning. you basically just repeat the process, simflifyy shape simflify shape etc etc. and then its only a matter of time how accurately you copy something.

[Anonymous No.6975285]

>>6975150
The books from hikaro hayashi are pretty good, I even own a physical copy.

[Anonymous No.6975287]

>>6975153
that is AI art

[Anonymous No.6975289]

>>6975287
Don't believe that AI can do watercolor? Here you go 100% Ai

[Anonymous No.6975293]

>>6975289

[Anonymous No.6975312]

>>6975293
Yes this is me

[Anonymous No.6975326]

>>6975276
I got a cheap fabre castel fountain oen that takes caryridges, got black ink and I mess around with a brush pen
Bretty comfy way to turn gestures into sketches and just continue from there

[Anonymous No.6975333]

>>6975289
Can AI do this in an atellier and impress the cute girl whos been giving you the looks? Maybe one day you'll have the AI fuck your wife as well since it can do it better than you?
Why wait for the AI just let your neighbor do it

[Anonymous No.6975339]

>>6975278
>>6975282
Thanks frens, yes its watercolor, mostly paynes grey monochrome

[Anonymous No.6975370]

>>6975339
kinda cringe how you fell for the bait and posted this pic as proof that it isnt ai
thereby giving legitimacy to the claim

[Anonymous No.6975380]

>>6975326
sounds dope, the dip pen I use has been a bit of a pain in the ass in the sense that you have to continuously keep loading it so I've had fountain pens in view as well, just haven't gotten around to it.
Probably gonna get some piston fountain pen since you can load them up from bottled ink like syringes.

[Anonymous No.6975386]

>>6975339
I like how the color placement on the fog managed to score an almost iridescent color. It's nice.

[Anonymous No.6975402]

maybe with this one it will work out
its certainly not working out right now so ill come back to it later

[Anonymous No.6975414]

I won’t draw today, either.

[Anonymous No.6975422]

>>6975289
this definitely isnt a full watercolor. maybe gouche is you wanna push it. if you told me a person did that i'd call bullshit
aicels lose again

[Anonymous No.6975449]

>>6975285
Thanks anon ill have a look

[Anonymous No.6975457]

How do i hold the stylos

[Anonymous No.6975462]

[Anonymous No.6975466]

Drew a Reimu

[Anonymous No.6975471]

>>6975457

[Anonymous No.6975478]

you know how meme legacy schools like Harvard offer free online courses in whateverthefuck?
are there any legacy institutions that offer free online art courses that are any good?

[Anonymous No.6975481]

>>6975478
NKU Drawing Database with Professor Marc Leone.

I dont know why it doesnt get posted here more. Shitfuckington amount of videos (37 hours on perspective alone), he takes his time though. Just watch and draw along.

[Anonymous No.6975482]

How the hell do I convince to my parents and therapist that I'm a drawcel? I dont know if theyre dumb or stupid but they still dont understand that im not good enough at drawing to get a girlfriend

[Anonymous No.6975502]

>>6975482
>my therapist
The frequency at which this is now said and posted is unnerving.

[Anonymous No.6975503]

>>6975402
ngmi

[Anonymous No.6975514]

>>6975457

[Anonymous No.6975516]

>>6975502
dont shit on people for trying to help themselves faggot im sure doritos and 4chan in a dark room all the time hasn't done you well

[Anonymous No.6975529]

>>6975514
I have a fucked static tripod grip. It's pinched between my forefinger and thumb and rests on the last section of my middle finger. Like I might have a little divot there.

[Anonymous No.6975533]

>>6975482
why do you feel the need to convince them of that?

[Anonymous No.6975549]

>>6975514
the only art book I've attempted (Eviston) drills into you that you should try to be using an overhand grip throughout it

[Anonymous No.6975558]

>>6975285
Can vouch for their quality, I have most of his books and they're a great resource

[Anonymous No.6975575]

>>6975549
probably because he assumes or wants you to do it trad, overhand grip doesn't really work with digital

[Anonymous No.6975595]

>>6975514
I use a static tripod but is there any method I can use to stop SQUEEZING the fuck out of the pencil?

[Anonymous No.6975598]

>>6975380
Dont worry too much about regular sized carts if there is nothing else available
those things last a while

[Anonymous No.6975614]

>>6975598
how does that brush pen work? it's filled with water?
looks neat

[Anonymous No.6975627]

>>6975614
Yes
Its synthetic bristles that are sort of hard until wet and the body of the pen is soft so you can pour out water or ink out of it by squeezing
Think ink brush but you never have to dip it
10/10 utility wise and they cost like a couple euros

[Anonymous No.6975629]

>>6975627
That pen and I have a lot in common

[Anonymous No.6975633]

>>6975629
Lmao

[Anonymous No.6975637]

attaching the hand to the arm is harder than i thought jesus christ.

[Anonymous No.6975640]

>>6975627
what's it called/brand?
I'll go buy

[Anonymous No.6975643]

When you guys try to figure out a new pose for a piece, what's your process? Draw it multiple times roughly until you get a good idea of what you're doing? Draw one sketch, and try to edit it until it looks right, and then draw over? Or something else?

[Anonymous No.6975645]

>>6975640
I don't know the brand, it was the cheapest chinese shit and I got it in medium
Any decent art supply store will have them, I got it first try in a small town in europe

[Anonymous No.6975649]

>>6975637
yeah i have a drawing stuck exactly at that part, right before being ready to color. its really disheartening.

[Anonymous No.6975654]

How to into gesture drawing?
I'm at the point in my first textbook where he teaches you to draw the human figure, starting with gesture.
Read the chapter multiple times, found a site called quickposes, did a bunch of timed 60-second gesture drawings.
Results were a mess and I have no idea if I'm learning/doing it properly. Feels by far the most abstract part of the book.

[Anonymous No.6975670]

>>6975640
you can find them on amazon by looking for "water brush pen", I like to use them too for watercolor pencils.
Also tried filling some with differently diluted ink for different values, no idea if that'll do lasting damage to them or something but it works surprisingly well.

[Anonymous No.6975690]

How do you guys store sketches and artwork, e.g.: A4 papers? I have them in a folder but 1) folder is small 2) its a pain in the ass to flip through the folders laying on each other.

I am tempted to go full consoomer with organizing products

[Anonymous No.6975695]

>>6975690

[Anonymous No.6975730]

>>6975466
kawaii

[Anonymous No.6975739]

Uncanny valley, I know...

[Anonymous No.6975748]

>>6975654
first off don't do 60 second gesture drawings, that's the dumbest thing to do when learning, you are too inexperienced to see the gesture in a minute. Anyone who recommends that is wrong. quick gestures are for those who already know what they are doing.
Do untimed gestures using CSI lines. Use long lines, use them scarcely (dont chicken scratch). You should spend the majority of time looking at the model (not drawing) and tracing the forms and gesture with your eyes, looking at landmarks, figuring out the perspective of the ribcage, pelvis, head, etc. Use the same image to to a gesture drawing, a box/form study, and any other approach to construction you might want to try. Don't go into too much detail, make your drawings look like the basic gestures you see in the book/chapter you're going through.
Do tons of these. Once your drawings are accurate, then you should move on to 60 sec drawings.

[Anonymous No.6975751]

>>6975739
problem is you are lazy. You didn't even attempt to draw that guys ear. You're symbol drawing. Go through the book keys to drawing

[Anonymous No.6975762]

>>6975690
I use A3 Kraft paper (or any brown tone paper) that I bought really cheap from my local paper company. as for storage, some I take a photo, others go to the box, and most end up in the shredder.

>>6975695
if your whole work is digital I hope you have a solid backup system (and tested), duplicati is simple and reliable with multiple cloud provider options.

>>6975654
start by copying vilppu (nma) or hampton (personal channel) gestures on youtube.

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[Anonymous No.6975778]

>>6975777
how did i do?

[Anonymous No.6975781]

>>6975777
>>6975778
is this the geoguesser guy

[Anonymous No.6975782]

>>6975781
who?

[Anonymous No.6975784]

>>6975781
fuck he does look like him

[Anonymous No.6975788]

Some monke copies and quick monke from imagination.

[Anonymous No.6975789]

>>6975690
Do you look back at these? Looks like a big waste of space

[Anonymous No.6975795]

/int/
/beg/
My work is too advanced for these threads I need /pro threads

[Anonymous No.6975797]

>>6975795
/draw/ is the general draw thread, use that

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[Anonymous No.6975835]

>>6974425
guys we've found the new asanagi

[Anonymous No.6975837]

>>6975370
kinda cringe how you decided to post this instead of killing yourself

[Anonymous No.6975851]

>>6975778
It could be aided with a better sense of volume
The lines are very timid and the straight lines against the volumes remove most of the sense of depth
You vary the weight of the line a lot which is nice, but in my opinion it's in the wrong places for any purpose. You could use it for points of overlap like creases
The likeness is pretty good

[Anonymous No.6975892]

Is there anything I should be careful about when itry to cure clay in my home oven?

[Anonymous No.6975900]

>>6975892
mustard gas

[Anonymous No.6975908]

>>6974950
the texture looks amazing, but I think the white border would look better if it was only on one side of its face

[Anonymous No.6975910]

>>6973947

[Anonymous No.6975912]

>>6975910

[Anonymous No.6975921]

>>6975637
>>6975649
pass it on google lens to decrypt the plastic runes

[Anonymous No.6975923]

Left was studying I got frustrated with; felt too much flattering of the features.
Poor results, no real excuse.
Middle was fun stuff that was quick, cooled off.
Right is also fun, but stalling to make it good in my poor eyes.

/beg/ fellas...

[Anonymous No.6975933]

>>6975912
>>6975910
the eternal sketchlet

[Anonymous No.6975944]

Bros... I am not going to make it...

[Anonymous No.6975951]

>>6973947

How do you mix colors well in csp (or use wet brushes) without fucking up your wrist?
Im used to krita and am trying out the csp free trial

[Anonymous No.6975952]

>>6975944
why are you timing yourself?

[Anonymous No.6975958]

>>6975952
NTA but unless I have some restriction on time I'm going to spend a whole week on the initial sketch that nobody is going to see. A deadline is a good way to curb this habit.

[Anonymous No.6975993]

>>6975788
the right leg scratching the left arm is really good, I like the way you think

>>6975823
I will try your rendering looks fun, you straighten the face also a little too wide.

>>6975944
cool, redo them but using only half the time

[Anonymous No.6975994]

>>6975952
>>6975993
I am very insecure about my skill and I want to see how much time it takes me to do absolute dogshit.
I see streaming artists do almost finished sketches filled with appeal in a handful of minutes while I can spend an entire hour doing grotesque crap.

[Anonymous No.6976013]

[Anonymous No.6976018]

>>6975994
you need to fail more often and faster in order to improve, I liked your morrigan it reads well also you placed the elbows well which means you are aware of those little details, keep going.

[Anonymous No.6976027]

How do I achieve this level of cross-hatching? It looks very "full" but at the same time you can easily see the individual lines in most places. Are they using a mechanical pencil?

[Anonymous No.6976029]

>>6976018
It was Lilith...

[Anonymous No.6976030]

>>6976027
This is my attempt. Started drawing recently, It's my first time trying to show light and shadow.

[Anonymous No.6976033]

>>6976013
This deserves a (You)

[Anonymous No.6976041]

>>6976029
aww then you just have shit taste.

[Anonymous No.6976054]

todays reps

[Anonymous No.6976058]

>>6976027
Hi anon. To do that type of hatching you need

>Pencil with a sharp tip,
>Angled surface to put your paper
>Very clear idea of the values you are trying to put in the drawing
>Patience. Lots of it.

This type of hatching is taught in almost all fine art ateliers and schools. Chinese and Russian fine artists like to use it a lot too.

But to make the clear look that they can achieve and that you want to make, you need to be careful with the handling of the pencil. That means no rubbing your hand or fingertips against the paper, no smudging.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onkFLQlQzdk&ab_channel=DrawingArtAcademy

This is an educational video to teach you how to hold the pencil in a way that helps you grow accustomed to making clear, long and short lines from different angles and positions.

And here is another youtube channel that uploads videos of fine art drawings that use this type of hatching.

https://www.youtube.com/@fineart-academy/videos

Hope this was of help, and remember to always keep your pencil sharp.

[Anonymous No.6976062]

>>6976058
Forgot picture, sorry.

The angled surface to draw on is very important because drawing on a flat surface can cause a lot of pain early in your drawing career and an angled surface makes doing clear lines way easier.

The sudden change from drawing one way to another is a frustrating thing, it requires effort and lots of drawing using the correct position of the hand. If you get bored of it, keep drawing like you used to do but remember to keep practicing these new ways of drawing so that you won't become a mediocre artist who does sloppy lines.

[Anonymous No.6976072]

>>6976041
not him but flat > fat

[Anonymous No.6976088]

Digitally painting a portrait of terry A Davis, can’t seem to get the face right, i dont like how the rendering doesn’t match the rest of it, the main refs. Ive been using are on the sides. Any help/advice is appreciated.

[Anonymous No.6976089]

>>6976088
do you know where your light source is coming from? I can't seem to tell from your drawing. Usually when you pick references try to make sure they have the same lighting or at least mentally take a lot of care to adjust the lighting to suit your piece

[Anonymous No.6976101]

What do you think of this "progress"??
Why did I fail to improve despite practice?

[Anonymous No.6976111]

>>6974917
study for an hour.. returning to the previous soon

[Anonymous No.6976113]

[Anonymous No.6976167]

>>6975690
I burned all of my sketchbooks in October

[Anonymous No.6976187]

>>6976089
lighting is coming from upper left corner, this is the ref I’ve been using for the cloth

[Anonymous No.6976207]

colored it

[Anonymous No.6976222]

should my drawpad be at an angle too?

[Anonymous No.6976241]

Is it possible for me to learn how to draw at 24?
I have literally tried doing several artistic hobbies and gave up each of them immediately when I was a teenager.
>Gave up on Source Filmmaker
>Gave up on GameMaker
>Gave up on FireAlpaca
>Gave up on Photoshop
I didn't know how any of them worked or what to
do. I don't even know basic trig. Even when I look art guides, i literally cannot comprehend them or figure them out. I don't want to be stuck with no creativity or being unable to express myself.

[Anonymous No.6976247]

>>6976241
that happens to everyone
might be stronger if you have ADHD
start small and make small incremental steps until you understand stuff

[Anonymous No.6976248]

>>6976241
yes it's possible if you try and put in effort and practice but if you ask dumbass questions and feel like you can't do it then you wont do it.

[Anonymous No.6976249]

>>6976241
>I didn't know how any of them worked or what to do.
If you didn't even get past that point then you didn't try hard enough. You won't learn how to do anything if you're a fucking quitter. How does someone give up on Photoshop? I learned how to use that shit by myself just because I wanted to make meme edits on this website.
Also >>6976247 might have a point, you might have something wrong with your mind or something like that. Ask a doctor about stimulants, I hear that's worked for some other anons here.

And yes, it is possible.

[Anonymous No.6976250]

Sup beg, i totally overdid it this time. I need to make a more reasonable chunks and take them one at a time, not to try to marathon it all in one go.

>>6976207
>>6975466
cute anime thot
>>6975923
thumb up, lets keep it up
>>6975739
the eye placement is wrong and you miss critical shades which would connect the glass to her hand or her legs to his back and arms
>>6975690
if i was tradchad i would get a scanner and digitalize it all and then i would store it haphazardly in a random box and used the digital copies for muh blog and for browsing it myself
>>6975654
nicolaides book said you learn gesture by drawing it over and over, not by reading about it. eviston said you learn gesture by drawing 999999 figures. vilppu gave me 4 step process and said he isnt doing real gesture, but something better
>>6975643
in the few "serious" pieces i always abused yandex or pinterest until i found good ref, then i shamelessly stole it
>>6975549
he also said to use huge canvas and draw standing where the grip makes a lot more sense
>>6975478
>free
communism died long time ago anon. nothing ever is free
>>6975269
PYW
>>6975054
do some master studies then
>>6975045
gesture, composition sketches, browsing AI slop galleries and stealing their ideas
>>6975043
i kneel
>>6974963
your blook is very good, thats probably why you dont feel pain with pencil
>>6974950
this pic looks badass, but it could go into any art book as example of wrong shading: all surfaces go from same super black to pure white values. Be aware of that
>>6974803
cool mech
>>6974776
pro
>>6974710
visit muh blog then
https://pawell2418.github.io/projects.html
>>6976241
teenagers are well known for being extremly bad at self discipline and work habbits, maybe you are now old enough to actually being able to build some discipline and patience
https://archive.org/details/Keys_to_Drawing

[Anonymous No.6976256]

>>6976250
oh fuck, I leave for a month, and when I come back I find that Pawell's studying Vilppu???????

Christmas has come early. You're gmi dude

[Anonymous No.6976257]

>>6976249
I'm literally on 50 MG of adderall and I still can't understand or do anything. Even when I have the biggest adderall high? I still can't understand nor bring myself to actually do anything.

[Anonymous No.6976258]

>>6976247
>>6976248
>>6976249
Just want to let you guys know you are falling for howie schizo's bait, ignore him and go back to drawing

[Anonymous No.6976264]

>>6976250
>your blook is very good, thats probably why you dont feel pain with pencil
Thanks, man, that's encouraging. Guess I wasn't hit with a curse that some other anons got. I'm doing one before going to bed and then I'll draw some more in the morning.

[Anonymous No.6976266]

>>6974899
>>6974868
Nice

[Anonymous No.6976269]

>>6976258
Do you think that anyone with genuine problems is a schizo?

[Anonymous No.6976274]

>>6976249
>You won't learn how to do anything if you're a fucking quitter
This is what it's like for literally everything I ever try doing. I've tried so many different ways to make art and I've always given up because I saw it as either pointless or I just went back to browsing stuff online. I don't know what the fuck to do.

[Anonymous No.6976275]

My life is shit and so is my "art" (failure photocopy studies)

[Anonymous No.6976281]

Do you like making art, or do you like the benefits that are gained from having the status of an artist? This is a question you need to ask yourself before undergoing any creative pursuit.

[Anonymous No.6976283]

>>6976281
the second one for sure, i hate art.

[Anonymous No.6976284]

>>6976281
I like the idea of creating something beautiful but I'm too stupid to do anything like that

[Anonymous No.6976286]

>>6976283
NGMI

[Anonymous No.6976289]

today we paint

[Anonymous No.6976290]

>>6976281
i want to make a video game that will bring people to tears
the game must look good too
art is OK, I mostly want to draw coomer or goofy funny stuff so studying it sucks

[Anonymous No.6976291]

[Anonymous No.6976292]

I'm autistic, with ADHD. I can't focus on trying to get better at all or even come up with anything to draw without just giving up and going back to looking at my phone and doing something else.
I've legitimately never been able to commit myself to any serious hobby and have gotten lazy over the years with my only actual one which is writing and the only reason I'm good at writing is because I wanted people to be able to understand what the fuck I was saying and I wanted to write good stories because I thought I'd never be able to make them in a visual medium, but that's it. I've never been able to commit to a serious routine, schedule, or anything. I just sit in my room online doing basically nothing.
Everything I try doing looks so daunting and impossible. I tried learning Source Filmmaker as a teen and I gave up immediately because it looked too complicated. I tried learning how to make my own games in game maker, gave up immediately and never touched it. Even something like drawing just looks so complex and impossible. This is what it's like for everything I try doing.
I'm giving myself an ultimatum. I want to become a good visual artist like I've always wanted to, otherwise I'm offing myself. I'm giving myself a year. What are some guides I should follow?

[Anonymous No.6976294]

>>6976281
Ive been drawing for 8 years and have sub 100 followers. Safe to say that i like art more than the status of being an artist

[Anonymous No.6976295]

>>6976290
Yeah, I'm in the same position of studying art for gamedev. I already work with an artist, but rapid progress on my current project's put me in a creative high and I want to be able to visually represent ideas in my mind. Drawing is okay.

[Anonymous No.6976297]

>>6976281
I like drawing when I get in the zone and it just seems to flow, I don't like continuously bashing my skull against a concept that's seemingly incompatible with my brain
I know it's not and I know that if I try enough I'll get past it eventually but that doesn't make the process any less unpleasant

[Anonymous No.6976298]

>>6976281
The last thing I want is to be a popular artist on the Internet.

[Anonymous No.6976301]

>>6976286
If you say so

[Anonymous No.6976310]

>>6976111
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlABfuNOCAc

[Anonymous No.6976325]

I guess I got lazy with this one. I completely missed a line on the cheeks; I followed along with Loomis's construction, but I messed up the angles of the squares on the cheeks, and in my erasing to fix the mistake I inadvertently resorted to symbol drawing, so now the man looks gaunt in a way he shouldn't.
The eyes are higher than they should be, caused by my poor construction of the head's cross lines. I messed with the cross lines a lot, never being happy with the perspective, but I eventually figured, "I'm overthinking this, I need to get to the actual drawing and not just fucking around with the perspective for 20 minutes", and this is the result. I don't think the eyes are super incorrect, but the higher placement does make the man lose the mature and slightly grumpy air he exudes in Loomis's drawing. The relative thinness of the eyebrows also contributes to this.
The nose is also quite flat; it doesn't pop out in the way a nose should. I should have erased the lines leading from the bridge to the tip like Loomis did. The line on the man's right nostril leading to the tip is also out of whack with the perspective. Generally, I took Loomis's "blocky" approach too literally here on the nose.

The comparison here really is a "soulless vs soul" situation. I'll try to do better tomorrow. I got a sketchbook so this is the last ugly notebook paper drawing I do. Also I'm a newfag if it isn't obvious, so sorry if it's annoying for me to have written this long ass essay critiquing my own fucking blook lol

[Anonymous No.6976326]

>>6976101
lmao you probably don't draw enough
>>6976250
Good stuff. I recommend you read the first chapter of hampton's book (figure drawing: design and invention) to boost your learning.
Here what he outlines there: CSI, Asymmetrical lines, Timing, Rhythm, The key landmarks and forms. Really implementing them and not wasting lines. Also I recommend using lots of reference of people; don't copy the instructor's gestures by rote. Every line should describe something, that's the key.
Then go back to vilppu.
I attached a pic i made when I started hampton for reference.

WAGMI

[Anonymous No.6976330]

>>6976292
lool. Start with keys to drawing by bert dobson. If you don't have the patience to truly see what you are drawing you won't improve. Then read the sticky. GL

[Anonymous No.6976333]

>>6976330
Read the sticky and fucked up the first upside down sketch, never went back to it.

[Anonymous No.6976335]

>>6976325
nice, it's good to compare and note your mistakes but don't get bogged down on blooks though, keep moving through the book. Many newbs get trapped on blooks. Loomis' blooks look great because Loomis was a professional artist with solid fundamentals. Just take it easy, have fun and make sure to invent your own ones too.

[Anonymous No.6976336]

Tried doing a head from imagination after 9 or so days of doing head studies out of frustration from how bad my heads were looking

it's far from good but it's better than what I was doing before I did the practices so I'm happy with it

[Anonymous No.6976337]

>>6974824
>adding details

1.create light source
2. create shadows

>push contrast

Establish light source.

>more clean
It's not bad. You can use bold lines on foreground and think pencil stroke for back ground.

[Anonymous No.6976338]

>>6976275

Don't rush. Pay more attention to the subject and analyze it slowly. Don't scribble. Every part is an opportunity for learning. Take it slow and steady and don't forget to take a break. Hydrate and stretch every hour.

Did you save your old drawings? Look at the oldest drawing and compare it to your latest drawing. You'll see the improvement.

[Anonymous No.6976339]

>>6976333
checked
>never went back to it
when you learnt how to read, did you give up after failing to read the first book you tried?
you can't achieve anything without effort

[Anonymous No.6976340]

>>6976335
I was gonna move on from them and draw my own stuff sooner, but then I figured that anything I came up with would always be simpler and easier to draw than Loomis's blooks, and that I should challenge myself by studying more of his. But, yeah, maybe I shouldn't think of it that way.
I think tomorrow I'll study the first few realistic faces in FWAP (which are supposedly super hard for beginners) and then draw some simple stuff, perhaps along with studying gestures which I haven't done at all yet.

[Anonymous No.6976358]

>>6976337
I really like this edit. I'll take note, thanks! I will probably try to keep the colors close to the blue side of the spectrum that they are on, and keep this high contrast in mind

[Anonymous No.6976362]

>>6976088
Hair is wrong, eyes too far apart, distance between ear and face too long, cheekbone should not be as prominent compared to jawline, nose bridge should be deeper, nose too small in proportion with forehead and mouth, mouth should jut out further

personal preference but I would add the sunglasses

[Anonymous No.6976390]

>t

[Anonymous No.6976392]

>>6976390
whats the benefit of doing different lighting studies

[Anonymous No.6976400]

>>6976392

[Anonymous No.6976404]

stuff

[Anonymous No.6976474]

>>6976072
you're a fag we get it

[Anonymous No.6976511]

>>6976058
>>6976062
thanks a lot :)

[Anonymous No.6976513]

>>6975690
Inane piles upon piles of hoarded paper.

[Anonymous No.6976639]

>>6976292
howie schizo do not respond

[Anonymous No.6976662]

i think its finally starting to work out
i know the values are still off but im adjusting them as i go
and theres a few mistakes but my answer to that is practice practice
the main thing is that i feel now that the brick wall is crumbling and that my approach is starting to work out. Faragasso clearly stated that he does not approve of using the Reilly method as a roadmap that you fill in with shading. i distanced myself more and more from the roadmap with the previous attempts and with this one its finally bearing fruits.
furthermore im using too much white in this, i will avoid using white next time

[Anonymous No.6976667]

>>6976662
>brows before eyes
gmi

[Anonymous No.6976716]

Any reccs for books to study for buildings and or landscapes? I am trying to assemble a portfolio to apply to a school and I feel like the biggest thing I need now is to make my pieces not just a character in an empty void.

[Anonymous No.6976733]

>>6976716
you need some primer on perspective especially for any kind of architecture, nature is more forgiving. And then just refs/study I imagine. Various cg hack maybe, if you into this - shapes/bashing. other then that it just drawing/painting like anything else. atmospheric perspective but you do not need book on this, just awareness of phenomena.

[Anonymous No.6976739]

I am completely stuck on this mind-numbing problem and I can't see how to fix it at all. The left hand is supposed to be playing with her hair but the arm is not making sense and the hand would be too small. Everything else looks good to me, is that just in my head? Is the entire pose a monstrosity that I'm blind to? This drawing is destroying me.

[Anonymous No.6976744]

>>6976222
yeah, much more comfortable for your wrist

[Anonymous No.6976758]

>>6976739
have you tried making the pose yourself? when i go to hold my hand there i either raise my shoulder far up and back, putting my forearm fully horizontal and my wrist bent far back, or keep the elbow dropped and just raise my forearm. regardless i think the current problem is that the forearm is too short, when raised and bent like this it should come a little in from the end of the deltoid where right now it's about half the length of the entire upper arm. you're also pointing the forearm exactly where you want the hand to play with the hair, not considering the backwards bend of the wrist that necessitates a lower forearm. rest of the pose looks fine, will improve massively with more studies of anime style, rest of the pose looks alright too, i think the ribcage could be pushed forwards more but don't fixate on that right now. keep going keep going

[Anonymous No.6976804]

trying to figure out the lighting for this scene, how do i make it look less like ass? Going for a kinda warm cozy vibe

[Anonymous No.6976866]

>>6975823
Stretch him out vertically

[Anonymous No.6976969]

new
>>6976967
>>6976967
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[Anonymous No.6977007]

>>6975781
>>6975784
no he does not

[Anonymous No.6977026]

>>6976292
I know it's a copypasta and you're trolling, but it's scary how accurate this actually is. I also had zero discipline as a teen and tried many things (among others Source Filmmaker, making Half life 2 maps, etc.) but as you said you give up as soon as things get complicated or there is an obstacle you actually have to work through, and these moments of failure pile up making you defeated.

I don't have these problems anymore, but I say, if anyone has these problems then unironically get a job, i think it's a symptom of a life that is too easy (you're inside your room jerking off all day), if there are no outside pressure to actually get shit done and push through then it will be pretty hard to get disciplined by yourself when you're a coombrained TikTok scrolling failure.

[Anonymous No.6977042]

Should I go through Eviston if I don't want to do trad? Will information be useful even if I don't practice exactly as it is taught in the book?

[Anonymous No.6977160]

>>6976250
why are you blindly copying vilppu gestures without even understanding them one bit?