/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.6956370]

what do you think about ancient japanese art

[Antijap No.6956392]

No one cares about what is 'truly' Japanese. What is popular is this bastardization between East and West (maid outfit, huge blue eyes...).

[Anonymous No.6956395]

>>6956370
it's cool. okami was one of my favorite games growing up because I loved the art

[Anonymous No.6956396]

>>6956392
what do you think about ancient japanese art

[Anonymous No.6956401]

>>6956392
>bastardization
Excuse me? This is just a planet of monkeys man, we share/steal. There is no such thing as truly japanese, how much of Japanese shit is just Chinese shit?

[Anonymous No.6956415]

I went through Hokusai's Manga and his Learn to Draw series which you can find online
Here's my study of his snake drawing
In the original its shown better, this was a few months ago when I was starting to draw

The snake looks like a loaded gun pointing at your face
The big ass eye staring down, the fact that the camo pattern on it is shown on the other eye and conceals the other half of its features, and that his drawing catches a frightening sight that a farmer might see when he surprises the snake and the little noodly shite stands up to flex and tell him to fuck off
I literally shat bricks when I saw the drawing because I ran into poisonous snakes when hiking with girls and the primal screams that got out of them when they realized the thing is like half a meter away from em hit me when I saw it
Fear personafied and the dude caught it on paper like 200 years ago

[Anonymous No.6956419]

I don't know what periods you'd use to define ancient japanese art.

Some of their late woodprints are really beautiful

[Anonymous No.6956432]

>>6956415
Women scream at everything. It's so annoying.

[Anonymous No.6956434]

>>6956415
Ps
Look how ominous this fucking thing is
Also the book is called
Quick lessons in simplified drawing

[Anonymous No.6956444]

>>6956432
Sorry I'm not into dudes
Anyway Hokusai is literally the person responsible for Manga being called manga so anyone studying manga drawing should go through his stuff, but I didn't see him mentioned once on /ic/

[Antijap No.6956455]

>>6956401
I like primary/secondary colors with sovereignty and pride, you like ugly globohomo brown.

And this brown is overloaded with 'yellow'...

[Anonymous No.6956482]

"HVA" fag please go away

[Anonymous No.6956487]

>>6956419
Astonishing technique and skills to produce a woodprint of this quality.

[Anonymous No.6956534]

>>6956370
When its given with context I find it amazing, for example the story, the delivery and art of "Night Parade of One Hundred Demons" by Kawanabe Kyōsai is by definition Gesamtkunstwerk

[Anonymous No.6957487]

>>6956370
I don't know, post some more samples
Generally, I'd say it's pretty kino

[Anonymous No.6957582]

>>6956370
The faces are ugly to mebut everything else is amazing, the skill and effort required to create using woodprints paint etc and back then you'd have to gather the material and whatever else yourself, Truly great stuff

[Anonymous No.6957593]

>>6956370
It'd look 800% better without the stupid faces

[Anonymous No.6959996]

>>6956370
I say it's fine but when it was first introduced to the west it already spawned the first weebs
>One of the oldest known cases of "anime studies" archieved

[Anonymous No.6960075]

>>6956370
Love their organic pen stroke control. Long curved lines in ink is something you have to get right in one try. The anatomy might seem wonky but you can tell they were just feeling it out as they went and the result is cool and dynamic

[Anonymous No.6960141]

>>6956455
I like lots of things. Including your favorite thing.

[Anonymous No.6961669]

>>6956370
I like it.

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[Anonymous No.6962628]

>>6956370
As an anon of culture, I appreciate the refined choices of subject matter.

From "Male Colors: The Construction of Homosexuality in Tokugawa Japan" (1995) by Gary P. Leupp, p. 180:

>I have an amusing recollection regarding pepper.

>As I was walking along, I met an attractive lad among the wakashu making their pilgrimages. He was traveling on a shoestring, of course, so I helped him out a bit as I led him along. Feeling rather obligated to me, he didn't refuse my request for his back door.

>Before fucking his ass I pounded some pepper well and, softening it with saliva, inserted it into his asshole. A bit later his anus began to itch unbearably. I daubed saliva on my penis, and when I [entered him], I eased his itch. The sensation got more and more pleasant, and he liked it.

>The dialogue captions run as follows. Boy: "I'm getting off on this too. Go ahead and shove it in all the way." Man: "You've got a hard-on too, huh? I can't stand it! Let me kiss you. In return I'll buy you a prostitute tonight!"

[Anonymous No.6962795]

Keep in mind that all of their drawings/paintings were improvised, which mean they have no construction, no pencil sketch, just pure drawing and painting.
Who came to your mind with that style?

[Anonymous No.6962803]

>>6962795
Wrong
Hokusai used construction, look up
"Quick lessons in simplified drawing"

[Anonymous No.6962811]

>>6956370
Iconic but weird

[Anonymous No.6962857]

>>6956370
>ancient japanese art
you probably mean edo period ukiyo-e, which is actually quite an ugly art style once you start studying it, the way they draw the people looks really beg imo but it is good inspo overall

[Anonymous No.6963246]

>>6956370
While the best ukiyo-e pieces are certainly highly-regarded antiques, the history of Japanese art goes back much further.

Pic related shows a detail of a bodhisattva from the Amida Triad, one of a series of frescoes painted c. 710, which were displayed in the main hall (kondō) of Hōryū Temple in Ikaruga, Nara prefecture, Japan.

Rendered in a style greatly influenced by the paintings of Tang dynasty China, the murals were unfortunately badly scorched by a fire in 1949, so now they can only be appreciated through photographs and reproductions.

[Anonymous No.6963279]

>>6956370
>ancient
I live in a house that's older than that print.

[Anonymous No.6963322]

>>6956370
I find it fascinating that only Europe worked out perspective and thus painted realistically rather than in a stylised manner. It's a reminder of how what seems simple to us now were difficult and amazing discovers, and that we're all standing on the shoulders of giants.

Outside of this admiration for human development, I've never really cared much for old Japanese stuff, even among the other simple stylised old stuff prior to perspective. I just always found it dull, though I totally get why people like it, it's just not for me.

[Anonymous No.6963324]

>ancient

[Anonymous No.6963352]

>>6957582
>>6957593
The conventional elongated faces are a bit of an acquired taste, but their level of appeal really depends on the artist.

Personally, I find the faces in Kitagawa Utamaro's prints to be quite cute (pic related).

[Anonymous No.6963367]

>>6962628
>>6963246
Really enjoyed these posts. Thanks for sharing anons

[Anonymous No.6963414]

>>6963322
>It's a reminder of how what seems simple to us now were difficult
That's and endless list:invention of the zero, Einstein's space-time, Newton's law of mechanics, and so forth

> I just always found it dull
You have to appreciate it in context: forget anything about Western art, remove photography & the Internet. You come back home, of which every bit was carefully handcrafted, pick a handcrafted mug that your obedient wife quickly fill with some perfectly brewed tea, and contemplate a small painting with vivid colors.

>>6962628
Gosh that's awful.

[Anonymous No.6964371]

[Anonymous No.6964594]

>>6956419
who's the author?

[Anonymous No.6964605]

>>6956370
a distinct and stylish product of its time
that's about it

[Anonymous No.6966947]

>>6963324
anything before 2000 or 9/11 can be considered ancient to some people. It's its own year 0