/int/ & /beg/ - Intermediate and Beginners Thread

[Anonymous No.6948399]

If you are a /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
Use this thread instead of making new threads or post in the drawthread with fundamental exercises.

>READ THE STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
Old: http://www.squidoo.com/how-to-draw-learn
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/

>TRY TO BE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK.
When giving feedback, avoid vague "advice" - point what's wrong and try to give the anon you're quoting a clear direction
to improve their art (study heads < watch THIS VIDEO about head structure, read THIS SECTION of THIS ARTIST'S BOOK, etc).
You, feedback seeking anon, should also try to be clear and concise when asking for critique/help.
When posting your artwork, say what you want help with, and what's your goal with the study/artwork.

previous thread: >>6944304

[Anonymous No.6948406]

>>6948399
Remember:
before criticising any of my work I post, I will require this information about you
1. your full name - name and surname
2. the address of your current residence
3. the address of your workplace
4. your marital status and the name of your spouse, if any
5. your annual wage, before and after tax
6. your license plate
7. your place of birth
8. the names of your parents
9. your credit card number and the expiration date
and finally you MUST post your work.
If but one of these points is not met, or, if I am unable to find a Wikipedia page about you, that matches the information you have given, that lists you as a prominent artist in any artistic field, all your critique directed towards me or my work is invalid and actually the opposite of what you say is true and my work is perfect and devoid of any mistakes.
Also, when you do criticise my work, you can not use any word included in the following list because your post will automatically get filtered by my automatic filtering system. You must treat me like a toddler when you criticise my work or I will cry.
https://rentry.org/za5t5

Let's keep it nice and civil in here, folks.

[Anonymous No.6948425]

>>6948399

[Anonymous No.6948426]

>>6948425
zag zag

[Anonymous No.6948431]

why does this rendering type thing suck and how to fix it?

[Anonymous No.6948432]

>>6948425
>The orc of disappointment is looking in your direction Sylvanas

[Anonymous No.6948435]

>>6948399
Made on sketchbook app

[Anonymous No.6948438]

finally after a few years of doing nothing to improve and just drawing occasionally for fun, I'm trying to git gud again. I've spent the last 3 or so weeks building up a daily drawing habit without any real aim so far aside from doing at least a little something each day. so far it's mostly been tracing/copying, referencing, and """""studying""""" either random things and objects I might find useful, and art or artists I like and enjoy. I clearly have a fuckton to learn but I'm confused on where to start again, or what I could be focusing on, and I know aimlessly practicing the way I am right now isn't terribly efficient. The last time I put effort into practicing I spent a month or two following drawabox lesson 1, and made it partially through lesson 2 before getting frustrated, burning out, and giving up. It taught me to sort of ballpark perspective quite well but it still doesn't feel like enough. I have some basic ideas about a number of fundamentals but haven't given any serious practice towards anything aside from doing what drawabox L1 teaches. I have a LITTLE bit of confidence in my lines and mark-making, but struggle to accurately reference things or draw forms *just* the way I need them to be, either in perspective or in proportion. I also often get confused when attempting to properly sketch, measure, or construct things, having a lot of lines on-screen only seems to overwhelm me. this has led to a bad habit of me usually just foregoing those techniques entirely and going straight to outline. I'm open to any ideas or suggestions on where to go next or what to learn from. Artbooks, videos, lesson courses, or whatever else. Anything leaning more towards teaching intuitive techniques over measured ones would be appreciated, but not required.

[Anonymous No.6948441]

>>6948438
here are some of my more "completed" works if it helps give a better idea of where I'm at and where I can go next

[Anonymous No.6948445]

>>6948431
I feel like this painting could use a stronger focal point. Because this creature is kinda long and all of it has similar colors and texture and detail, my eyes kinda just wandered for a second, not sure where to look. I suggest making the light source stronger - if you put a stronger shadow on the back part and legs, then the face would stand out more, therefore making it a focal point and making the painting a bit easier to look at.

[Anonymous No.6948448]

>>6948441
>where I'm at and where I can go next
halfway through the tutorial

[Anonymous No.6948482]

I won’t be drawing on this Friday of Color.

[Anonymous No.6948511]

I'll get my inking on an accetpable level one day, but not today.
It was after I'd drawn the pose that I googled a picture of the ship and realized that side wing/cannon propably isn't wide enough to sit on but I wanted include the silly little antibiotics-ship so there goes.

[Anonymous No.6948513]

>>6948511
big penis

[Anonymous No.6948528]

What approach do you have for drawing outside? Do you relax and justdraw or do you set a rough plan of action, like 20 min sketch, 20 values, 20 details? Pic rel was from life, had to wrap it up cause my ass was freezing.

>>6948431
>>6948441
super like these
>>6948511
well, this is not a solution to your problem but you could ink the sketch on paper, then transfer and paint colors

[Anonymous No.6948580]

>>6948528
I could do with more practice on a traditional media, could propably help my digital inking. Though I haven't used my printer/scanner in a long while since that fucking scam machine started run out of ink again, and now can't get it to connect to my pc again so scanning my work is not an option for now.

[Anonymous No.6948591]

Howdey Pardtners

[Anonymous No.6948594]

Working from fun with a pencil and this particular expression feels Japanese to me. I don't have a problem with that necessarily, but it also wasn't my intention. I think the forehead is wider than it should be, hence the Japanese feel.

[Anonymous No.6948600]

I don’t think the hand is right but I tried drawing a scene

[Anonymous No.6948602]

Are these things still around?

[Anonymous No.6948622]

>>6948600
Nice job anon! You could try ephasizing the joints of the fingers, right now they look like very short stubs

[Anonymous No.6948650]

>>6948425
zug zug, would look better if you rendered the face and cleaned up your lines more

work work

[Anonymous No.6948659]

random sketches without references

[Anonymous No.6948666]

It's over

[Anonymous No.6948674]

Upper torso basic study, ~10 mins

[Anonymous No.6948681]

I've only gotten worse at drawing

[Anonymous No.6948692]

I did a big cat

[Anonymous No.6948705]

Generic form pract. No ref, just blank on what to draw.
>Pretty much doing what I know for the DAD stuff. Pretty rusty
Planning to set up quick pose, after the folder organization & scooping some more full body ref. And some more additional designs.

[Anonymous No.6948707]

>>6948705
Also going contour heavy for more thorough, and consise construction. Even for spheres.

[Anonymous No.6948709]

>>6948707
>Last pic didnt load up.

[Anonymous No.6948719]

>>6948705
>>6948709
why sign such thing

[Anonymous No.6948723]

Trying human girls this time

[Anonymous No.6948750]

>>6948705
>>6948709
>signing this trash
faggot

[Anonymous No.6948752]

>>6948705
>>6948709
do you sign the shits you take on the toilet too? faggot

[Anonymous No.6948763]

Mileage sheet, featuring Bridgman's mutant baby in the upper right corner

[Anonymous No.6948766]

>>6948750
>>6948752
nta, do you draw?

[Anonymous No.6948769]

>>6948750
>>6948752
"Shitposting" by SamefagCrabKun

[Anonymous No.6948787]

random stuff today

[Anonymous No.6948818]

Boy did I have a rather crappy day, was very tired.

I was able to get some drawing done, but felt a lack of confidence in my abilities feeling as if I wasn't ever going to improve, hell I feel bad for using references on the same monitor now.

Anyway, I did some eye studies, not great at all but something I guess. It took me forever to do her left eye properly though it was weird.

Also a character I saw in a dream last night, but you can see I can't draw people well at all yet.

[Anonymous No.6948826]

idk what line thickness looks better, so im asking here, tell me what ya think

[Anonymous No.6948885]

>>6948826
left its easier to read, also the value range seems larger. but I'm beg don't trust me

[Anonymous No.6948891]

>>6948826
I prefer left, although mostly because you've done the tone differently

[Anonymous No.6948936]

I wish I had more time and energy to draw.

[Anonymous No.6948943]

>>6948936
If you have a spare 5 minutes, you have time to draw something.

[Anonymous No.6948947]

>>6948943
I work 7 days a week, work drains my energy.

[Anonymous No.6948952]

>>6948947
I work full time, am married, and go to grad school full time anon. I am fucking tired. You have my sympathies but also you have no excuse. Think about your time in 10 minute intervals. You can draw something, it all adds up.

[Anonymous No.6948960]

>>6948936
I know that feel, brother. You have my sympathies.
Only advice I can give is to try to budget your time more closely, even a few minutes can be well-used if you go in with a plan

[Anonymous No.6948966]

>>6948952
>>6948947
Also can you listen to audiobooks at work or on your commute? Go listen to "Someday is today"

[Anonymous No.6949085]

Sup beg. Loomis isnt into hands or feet. He spend two pages explaining with step by step schema of how to draw a hat. But for feet or hands? Lmao just draw the whole fucking owl. Loomis is a hack.

>>6948947
>working all day everyday
my condolences. even death is more preferable than that
>>6948826
draw bigger (resolution) and get a better brush with anti aliasing
>>6948787
booba
>>6948723
very nice + booba. is this lasso tool + air brush or did you use something else for the soft edges?
>>6948681
cool thot
>>6948692
nice kot
>>6948441
you are very competent, even INT i would say. you can outright jump into rendering

[Anonymous No.6949086]

>>6949085
>He spend two pages explaining with step by step schema of how to draw a hat.
Based!

[Anonymous No.6949091]

What do you think of the construction so far?
Here's where I'm working from.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6ceKdSbUAABHZi?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6bsSEcaQAAEEXc?format=jpg&name=large

[Anonymous No.6949095]

>>6949085
He has more plates in picrelated Pawell. Love you but don't fall for the anti-loomis meme

[Anonymous No.6949101]

creating gag main character
trying to go with the King character from one-punch man

[Anonymous No.6949102]

>>6949091
Decided to improve the left arm construction.

[Anonymous No.6949110]

>>6948406
homo

[Anonymous No.6949141]

last time I used some refs, this time I tried to make the figures from imagination

>>6949085
>hands and feet
check morpho's hand/feet book
>>6948763
that's the spirit

[Anonymous No.6949147]

Was drawing from lil figure guy I got and dont think it really was working out, maybe should just use it for understanding a pose more or perhaps try different construction methods on it. Either way gonna try just practicing the torso into pelvis separately

[Anonymous No.6949172]

I wanted to be an artist, but its hard so I chose being a lawyer.

But being a lawyer is also very hard.

I guess I will be a good barista then.

[Anonymous No.6949187]

any pointers?

[Anonymous No.6949209]

This is a panel for my webcomic with a pose that's been giving me alot of trouble. Is there anything that stands out as anatomically off before I ink it?

[Anonymous No.6949210]

[Anonymous No.6949214]

[Anonymous No.6949255]

[Anonymous No.6949282]

posing manikins is so hard for me, grinding it until it doesnt look like basedkaf for a bit.

[Anonymous No.6949295]

>>6949282
> basedkaf
god damn word filter

[Anonymous No.6949302]

Does anyone have a piece of art or 3d model that has transparent bone structure behind it? I'm having trouble understanding where the pelvis starts and ends and how it connects with the legs/ where the PUSSY goes

[Anonymous No.6949303]

Can someone help me with a redline on how to draw the shoulders and upper torso? I'm stuck

[Anonymous No.6949316]

are these rough sketches gesture drawings? I watched a few drawing videos and every mangaka seems to do these types of drawings before they draw over them. Do they do this because it's easier spot mistakes this way?

[Anonymous No.6949318]

>>6949316
forgot to include pic

[Anonymous No.6949323]

>>6948600
maybe you should try drawing head angles aside from side/front/3/4 view

[Anonymous No.6949335]

hrm

[Anonymous No.6949371]

>>6949316
It's just the fastest way to transfer the ideas they have in their minds onto the paper

[Anonymous No.6949381]

>>6948818
you had a bad day and still studied? gmi

[Anonymous No.6949383]

>>6949255
magnifique

[Anonymous No.6949395]

>>6949303

[Anonymous No.6949421]

>>6948399
is keys to drawing good or a trap?

[Anonymous No.6949430]

>>6949141
These are really good from imagination anon! Also if you don't mind me asking what are your tips for learning anatomy?
I already know having a good anatomy book as you copy/study helps (I'm using Stonehouse's book), but what else would help to keep in mind while learning anatomy so it retains in memory?

[Anonymous No.6949436]

How do I draw a pipe fold (or any fold, for that matter) from a top-down perspective? Even from an isometric perspective, it's pretty hard. I've been studying figure drawing for a good amount of time now, and I can finally draw a human figure from almost any angle. However, when I try to dress my figures, I encounter the problem that folds are difficult to draw from unusual perspectives, and they also disrupt the figure because they ruin the action line (when drawing a person in baggy clothes, you can't see a dynamic pose or the action line). How do experts, especially those who rely on line art, solve this problem?

[Anonymous No.6949437]

>>6949421
Its just fine to start with , but youll move past it soon enough

>>6949214
One more poké art

[Anonymous No.6949438]

>>6948719
>>6948750
>>6948752
Damn, didnt think it was bad to sign drafts lul. Only really put it on for DAD posts, and elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.6949442]

>>6949421
The best book for /beg/ and even /int/

[Anonymous No.6949447]

>>6948674
what's your reference?

[Anonymous No.6949488]

>>6949430
thanks, stonehouse is a really good book
I would recommend using an app like pureref and saving different poses and body parts at different angles
Then make some sketches using the app, as soon as you get stuck, check pureref for some images to help you
When saving reference images, look for manga/doujin pages as they are just lines so they are easier to memorize anatomy

[Anonymous No.6949502]

>>6949323
what other angles do you suggest? A lot of the other ones don’t look very appealing to me, imo. Looking up a chicks nostrils, or whatever.
>>6948622
Thank you! Yeah you’re right, haha. I’ll try to give them some more definition.

[Anonymous No.6949531]

>>6949141
I really like your top right structures, do they have a name to find them, or where did you learn that specific way of mannequin?

[Anonymous No.6949535]

>>6949438
Anon, you better keep signing them! Take pride in your work!

If we don't even believe in ourselves in our developmental stages, how the hell will we ever tough it out on the hard days?

[Anonymous No.6949539]

will proportions become more intuitive as i keep learning and drawing? i'm working through “figure drawing for all it's worth“ and been measuring out eight heads each time, but i don't want to have to _always_ keep doing that, you know?

[Anonymous No.6949545]

>>6949539
>will proportions become more intuitive
yeah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ppL9w1u55c&t=44s

[Anonymous No.6949547]

>>6949531
They’re literally just slightly carved boxes you retard

[Anonymous No.6949554]

>>6949531
Reposting:

It appears in weeks 2 and 5 of Proko's Figure Drawing Fundamentals, as well as Vilppu's Drawing Manual in chapters 2 and 3.

You'll also see similar volumes being used in Hampton's figure drawing book

[Anonymous No.6949555]

Wow you guys need to be spoonfed everything

[Anonymous No.6949588]

>mfw drawing after several months of no draw

[Anonymous No.6949615]

>>6949535
Aye, I appreciate it! Decided to shake some rust off with the full bod pose before bed. Kinda barren atm, since I want to do multiple poses.

[Anonymous No.6949681]

Is Pawell proof that talent is real? He is putting in both mileage and studying but he is still a permabeg.

[Anonymous No.6949683]

he ruins all of my compositions by being ugly but I continue to draw him anyway

[Anonymous No.6949685]

>>6949683
His ugliness enhances her good looks, good job anon

[Anonymous No.6949686]

>>6948591
Underrated

[Anonymous No.6949701]

How's my rendering?

[Anonymous No.6949703]

>>6949701
Your soft edges are there but your hard edges are not, try going darker with the shadows to create contrast

[Anonymous No.6949711]

>>6949502
>what other angles do you suggest?
all of them

[Anonymous No.6949729]

>>6949703
Aight how's this?

[Anonymous No.6949731]

>>6949438
lmoa newfags getting toasted for signing doodles, ya love to see it

[Anonymous No.6949757]

>>6949209
In an attempt to show both her ass and tits you broke her spine.

[Anonymous No.6949776]

chikn

[Anonymous No.6949783]

>>6949729
light source seems unclear making the shadows look arbitrary

[Anonymous No.6949806]

>>6949085
>Loomis is a hack.
finally. now you can start work on the Reilly method.

[Anonymous No.6949817]

>>6949776
based, like

>>6949683
based, like

>>6949588
for me weeks but yeah know that feel. the good thing is, the skills will come back very fast, I thought I forgot how to draw but the knowledge came back after some draw

>>6949535
based

>>6949437
nice anon, very soul! it has been saved to my Pictures folder.

>>6949210
based, based, post moar, saved to my Pictures folder

>>6949214
based

>>6949255
based

>>6949209
based creative and saved into my Photos folder

>>6949091
>>6949102
Im only beg, but this is a very barebones sketch, I think if you kept working on this a bit more you would be more likely get a (You)

>>6948666
this is me when I look at my post in /beg/ which had no replies

>>6948594
yeah I could definitely see this in a manga, old wise man that gives good advice to the youngsters

>>6948591
I remember you that you also make drawings with teddy bears and animals

>>6948580
Just try it with your phone, get good light conditions, take a photo and transfer with the program. May not be what you want, but at least you learned to do that.

>>6948435
moar

>>6948482
Are you going to draw this saturday

>>6949806
What benefits do Reilly method gives over just doing it from observation? I dont want to discount that method, but damn it looks tedious and ugly af.

[Anonymous No.6949827]

How would you go about drawing Bargue Plates digitally? Im asking this because my problem with drawing tablet (One by Wacom) is I cant replicate the light touch of the pencil.

In trad I can lightly stroke the paper, whereas the Pencil brushes in Krita just feel like they all too opaque and dont give me the intricate pressure sensitivity.

(also picrel is really cool, this is what i want to be)

[Anonymous No.6949839]

>>6948511
Tip from experience, plan the pose properly within its context, and if it doesn't work out just start over. Trying to "fix" a painting without changing too much leads to polished turds.

[Anonymous No.6949857]

>>6949282
does anyone have any tips for getting better at this? loomis just says to draw hundreds of these manikins at different eye levels.

[Anonymous No.6949873]

I drew some guys OC for practice on my phone and I'm pretty proud of the head, I haven't been able to draw in a while

[Anonymous No.6949878]

I will give up on drawing. I can still study law. Maybe one day I will save some guy from being convicted. Can your drawing save a life?

[Anonymous No.6949884]

>I will give up on drawing
ok loser

[Anonymous No.6949885]

>>6949878
>Can your drawing save a life?
perhaps someday. and for some drawing saves their own lives.
>I will give up on drawing.
whatever you do, I hope it works out anon. I gave it up for a few years but the desire always came back. now I wish I had kept with it longer. no shame in putting it down though: depending on your circumstances, that can be practical and an act of maturity.

[Anonymous No.6949886]

>>6949885
You are engaging with bait.

[Anonymous No.6949887]

>>6949878
Maybe one day you will help put an innocent person in prison. My drawings would never do that.
>>6949885
Good advice all the same
>>6949873
Interesting drawing

[Anonymous No.6949918]

>>6949878
Drawings can change lives thats for sure. Discovering muscular anthro female art in 5th grade changed my life

[Anonymous No.6949925]

>>6949886
perchance. doesn't mean there isn't someone out there with a similar experience. also I like posting portraits.

[Anonymous No.6949927]

>>6949878
>Can your drawing save a life?
one of the reasons I have to carry on living is knowing that someone, somewhere, is making awesome art, and I need to be around to see it when it's done.

[Anonymous No.6949979]

I think I'm fine for now. Maybe I should focus more on complex backgrounds now.

[Anonymous No.6950019]

I like this one, give me critique please. Just don't call me a retard, I already get plenty of that

[Anonymous No.6950032]

>>6948528
Thanks, I appreciate the kind words :)

>>6949085
I really don't feel confident. Whenever I draw, I can't seem to draw things just the way I want or intend them to be, and need to either constantly erase and re-work until they've lost part of their charm, or just run with the errors made and think of hack-y shortcut solutions to salvage what I've made. this is especially prominent in things which need a degree of accuracy like mechanical design, hands, feet, faces, clothing, proportion, etc. and it gets frustrating quick. It feels like I can't envision the bigger picture as I draw and oftentimes this leads to things becoming lopsided, off-center, out of perspective, poorly composed, or whatever else. There's definitely a lot more I can learn before rendering. Thank you though.

[Anonymous No.6950056]

Reilly is king.

[Anonymous No.6950098]

[Anonymous No.6950115]

I drew this today, but I think I may need a break.

It's not drawing, but just the season and other stresses in my life that are wearing me down. Drawing is good but I still feel stressed out attention span wise and want to play games more for a week or something.

Would it be okay if I have a break from drawing for about a week? I'll still do small exercises daily just they'll be 30 minute ones just to preserve my motor skills, but more extensive projects will not be started for at least a week.

I dunno why I am asking, just I dunno what's the rules regarding taking breaks at this stage, plus I was demotivated after seeing how good Pewdiepie is after only three weeks, while I am over two months into this and still feel inferior.

[Anonymous No.6950134]

>>6950115
>Would it be okay if I have a break from drawing for about a week?
I don't think a week would be bad, but (of course) you do not wanna make a bad habit out of taking breaks. sometimes people convince themselves that it's "just one week" and build a habit of putting important things off only to regret it however long down the road. I'm not saying that's what you are doing, but you should think critically about your motivations.
>plus I was demotivated after seeing how good Pewdiepie is after only three weeks, while I am over two months into this and still feel inferior
there will always be someone better than you and who has seemingly improved faster. all you can do is make corrections to your process when the realization of them arises and try to do your best. past that regret/envy is a cancer that should be dispelled with. also note that you can only move forward from where you are and that it is fruitless pondering too much on what could be. again, have a goal, make corrections where you see fit, and work towards that goal: that's all you can do.

[Anonymous No.6950138]

>>6949817
You’re always positive about my stuff and working hard on your own I really appreciate that in this thread

Also Reilly rhythms look ugly when you see them all laid out on the page, but they are very practical when you’re trying to quickly capture the planes of the body. So the more knowledgeable you are about anatomy, the better they will be. Definitely worth spending a few hours on them to benefit for a lifetime

[Anonymous No.6950144]

>>6950134
I just don't want to go crazy because I feel too tired to really put effort into drawing right now and would rather relax more for a few days.

That's why I am still gonna draw, just do exercises to keep my motor skills in check until I can eventually try drawing people and animals again.

[Anonymous No.6950147]

folds make my brain fold holy fugg

[Anonymous No.6950148]

figures

[Anonymous No.6950152]

>>6949531
Thanks, that's not a specific mannequin, it's just inclined boxes that I use to represent the ribcage and the pelvis, try looking for Vilppu and Will Weston's classes as they also use similar boxes and constructions

[Anonymous No.6950180]

memory drawing

[Anonymous No.6950181]

>>6950180
how fucking pointless

[Anonymous No.6950185]

>>6950152
I see, yes, I understand and I'll search, also I was trying to understand your simplification and couldn't understand what the waist is supposed to be? and how do you know where the legs should be with that structure?
sorry if this bothers you, no need to reply

[Anonymous No.6950191]

>>6950180
I think u have Alzheimer's, how can you forget so much? Embarassing.

[Anonymous No.6950196]

>>6950180
Forgetting how hip joints look is too much

[Anonymous No.6950220]

>>6949447
Morpho, and some yt videos.

[Anonymous No.6950230]

>>6950185
Just go draw with Loomis you fraud

[Anonymous No.6950250]

>>6948399
Thoughts on the proko courses? Considering using the Black Friday sale to get a discount

[Anonymous No.6950252]

When people say "draw daily", what exactly am I supposed to be doing...?
Outside of warmup gesture/croquis, am I supposed to just...draw whatever I feel like doing? Is that really all there is to it?

[Anonymous No.6950256]

>>6950252
Yeah that's basically what I've been doing. I've been going through Bridgman and Hampton and have started to see small improvements.

[Anonymous No.6950257]

>>6950252
it's funny the "just draw" is as simple as it is so people don't waste time thinking it over yet anons will ask if just draw means just drawing

[Anonymous No.6950265]

>>6950250
Do you want to draw what proko draws? If not don't

[Anonymous No.6950266]

>>6950265
Thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.6950271]

>>6950266
Also you can literally get it for free, visit the video course general, copy the magnet link for the IC torrent, download Qbit torrent, put in the link, then chose what you want to download it has almost every good course in it.

[Anonymous No.6950274]

>>6950181
>>6950191
>>6950196
My art seems to cause a disproportionate amount of rage in people for some reason, and for that, I am sorry.

I must commit sudoku.

[Anonymous No.6950277]

>>6950274
you say that like its my problem that its shit

[Anonymous No.6950278]

>>6950252
you should draw daily because you have ideas in your head that are worth manifesting into drawings but you don't yet have to the tools, knowledge and skills to do so; if the only reason you have to draw is to "get good" then you will rot in beg hell doing warm up poses for eternity

[Anonymous No.6950279]

>>6950185
np bro, the waist is the part between the ribcage and the pelvis, or as Will Weston calls it: the squishy part
for the pelvis I use a box or a cylinder depending on the angle, in this case I had opted for the cylinder but later changed it to a box, for the legs I imagine the top edge of the box as being the illic crest and the sphere at the bottom being the head of the femur, from there I make some cylinders for the thighs
pic rel was an old hip-leg exercise that I did,
I hope I gave you a clearer idea

[Anonymous No.6950281]

>>6950279
wrong pic
here's the actual hip exercise

[Anonymous No.6950299]

>>6950279
based, thanks for the advice, gonna make my homework now

[Anonymous No.6950302]

Nice moaihead
>>6948787
Also great job on the muscle/figure studies, would recommend more of those anon!

[Anonymous No.6950303]

>>6949209
may as well repost this here since I need an int to rate the fix as I'm pretty sure this has mistakes lol

[Anonymous No.6950338]

>>6950281
>>6950279
any resources youd recomnend for learning to draw like that? particularly the breasts and body shape, its very appealing

[Anonymous No.6950340]

Did this garbage last night, tried this for first time and wasnt using references and it shows. Will try some more today but use some art I like as references

[Anonymous No.6950344]

>>6950019
I like it a lot, the bend in the arm is very pleasing to me, and proportions look good. Seems like a natural understanding of aesthetics

[Anonymous No.6950352]

Is the best place for martial art photos really Pinterest? I'm trying to search for some of a specific martial art to practice with but I'm not turning up with much that isn't covered in slop. I just want to try and draw some shenmue bajiquan poses. Not sure if I'd be better off just booting up the game and taking screenshots

[Anonymous No.6950355]

>>6950256
>>6950257
>>6950278
so do daily practice and then just...draw what i want? if im trying to learn anatomy for example, do 30 mins of warmups then like an hour of drawing idk, necks?

[Anonymous No.6950373]

>>6950338
study the work of doujin artists like trylsc(pic rel) and blue gk
make copies of their figures and try to apply the proportions to your own work

[Anonymous No.6950374]

>>6950355
I mean... That's what I've been doing.

[Anonymous No.6950377]

Reilly method hits hard
wont be finishing this today as its getting late and i have made the mistake too many times in the past to continue for way too long when i cant even concentrate anymore
better to continue tomorrow properly.

[Anonymous No.6950378]

>>6950373
>study their work
sorry im kind of retarded and still new to drawing (only 2 months), can you break it down a bit more as to what that would entail? outside of doing copies

[Anonymous No.6950384]

Finally finished this one, took me 3 weeks.

[Anonymous No.6950388]

>>6950377

[Anonymous No.6950390]

>>6950388
LOL anyone with that kind of physiognomy isnt worth listening to

[Anonymous No.6950401]

>>6949209
Definitely a problem with the perspective on the ribcage, I think we should be seeing more of the front of the ribcage and none of the back. Try finding a reference pic and get on the ground and take that pose to feel what's going on with the shoulders-ribcage-pelvis relationship. And don't listen to the "erm, you broke her heckin spinerino" goblins that can't touch their own toes.

[Anonymous No.6950402]

>>6950390
?

[Anonymous No.6950404]

>>6950390

[Anonymous No.6950408]

AAAAAAAAAAAHAHHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAH
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
this nerd (on the right)
telling (You)
how the king's (on the left)
method DOESNT WORK
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH

you made me curious and im watching the video know.
this guy already says 1 minute in "the Reilly method is one of the best methods of drawing out there" when the title is "why the Reilly method doesnt work"
what a complete loser. this is a human of the lowest stock.
i cant believe im going to waste 8 minutes of my life watching this shitty video but on the other hand, it is entertaining sometimes. hahahahah

[Anonymous No.6950411]

>>6950408
don't disrespect Kristian or his jewish girlfriend

[Anonymous No.6950413]

I just read this manga where the pro artist could tell from the ink drawing of the /beg/ of an orchid that he was deeply sad. Is this possible in real life bros? Can you express yourself like this? Please tell me its not just a fairy tale, that would be really cool

[Anonymous No.6950415]

>>6950413
like, as a /beg/ can I make "art" stuff that inspires feelings like this or only possible for experienced or this is all marketing delusion to sell art

[Anonymous No.6950416]

>sits there with his earpods on and cap on
>with his dog shit physiognomy
>says
>im not saying the Reilly method is bad
>title of the video: why the Reilly method doesnt work
>30 second self promotion ad starts playing
AAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHHAAHAHA
HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHHAHA

[Anonymous No.6950417]

the fucking gall on this guy to call a chapter in his video "Reilly method weaknesses"
may Reilly's spirit smite you down from above you nerd

[Anonymous No.6950421]

>>6950417
SHUT UP REILY SCHIZO REILY IS A HACK KYS

[Anonymous No.6950424]

wrong
loomis is a hack
Reilly is king

[Anonymous No.6950430]

>>6950416
>>6950417
it's no use paying attention to people like these. plenty of retards on the internet, best courseof action is to ignore

[Anonymous No.6950434]

>>6950277

Well, damn, anon! I’ve drawn more in 5 minutes than you ever will in your natural-born-lifespan, in the hopes of getting better, so that my art does not provoke so much disproportionate rage in people!

Do you want me to get better or not? I want people to enjoy my art, not rage at it!

I posted another drawing that was meant to remedy your anger i.e. displaying my desperate attempts to get git, but you are still not satisfied. You gotta work with me here, anon!

[Anonymous No.6950438]

cluss

[Anonymous No.6950442]

sigh. daily face practice. liu lang from mk1 art. i think i got the distances between the feature correct but the actual sizes of them wrong. and maybe the face shape overall too

[Anonymous No.6950443]

>>6950180
>>6950434

Good anon! You remembered the most important parts.

When did you start drawing? Your girl looks not too bad on the right, but don't use color or shading yet, do purely lineart and concentrate on forms before going into that.

[Anonymous No.6950451]

>>6950443
I started mid-October, 2022

[Anonymous No.6950465]

My beloved Feng Zhu,

Every day spent with you is a journey into a world where love, understanding and mutual respect are king. You are like a star in my night sky, shining with a brilliance that guides my thoughts and my steps.

With this message, I offer you a unique drawing, a work of art created with patience and devotion. It's not just a drawing of an insect, but a meticulous depiction of the complex beauty of nature, which thousands of construction lines have helped to create.

May this drawing remind you how dear you are to my heart and how much I cherish every moment I spent masturbating to your podcasts.

[Anonymous No.6950477]

>>6950378
something like this
you get the proportions, analyze the ratios and shapes, see how the artist simplifies anatomy and apply it to your own figures

[Anonymous No.6950478]

>>6950148
figures and gestures

[Anonymous No.6950481]

>>6950465
very cool but the cast shadow takes away from it, its hideous

[Anonymous No.6950502]

I want to get better

[Anonymous No.6950504]

To any /beg/lets just starting out from ground zero, this is a good free course you can go through on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMXbAPr21di-Ox-dmDwL2riWedei1dn9S

[Anonymous No.6950507]

>>6950504
I watched this and wondered why its not recommended more, perfect to just listen to it and draw along. DUde has also other very interesting videos

[Anonymous No.6950509]

>>6950507
I think it's just simply not that well known. This course or Proko's drawing basics are both good places to start

[Anonymous No.6950511]

>>6950502
you will need the Reilly method

[Anonymous No.6950513]

>>6950502
Proko portrait drawing fundamentals. Go watch the free content now and do the assignments

[Anonymous No.6950519]

>>6950442
I'll say that you should read Keys to Drawing chapter 3. That's will give you a step in the right direction.

[Anonymous No.6950521]

master...

[Anonymous No.6950532]

Ugh what a shitty mess. I'll look into Reilly and watch the Proko vids. I feel pretty hopeless tho because of my lack of talent

[Anonymous No.6950538]

>>6950532
It's not bad. Just sketchy and stuff. I like it.

[Anonymous No.6950548]

>>6950438
I give you bad redline
twist dat shit
booba don't Y unless super squeezy, and better to show with shading anyway
me like clussy oog oog

[Anonymous No.6950551]

>>6950532
post your reference also LOOMIS

[Anonymous No.6950554]

>>6950551

[Anonymous No.6950555]

>>6950548
I see I see. Thanks for the redline and info. will work on these things. honk

[Anonymous No.6950561]

>>6948659
always turn opacity down and go a second round with more detail and confidence, or thrid round

[Anonymous No.6950567]

>>6950554
>>6950532
You did okay, but your measuring is off. The head/skull is too short so her face looks a bit like a pug. Proportions of the features are super important, cause your subconscious will notice that it's off.
Unironically check out fun with a pencil or something else that'll teach you to lay out a basic form before you start going ham bananas.
Just gotta train yourself to measure more accurately, keep practicing.
>>6950555
hope it helps fren, I am beg though so grain of salt :^)

[Anonymous No.6950583]

>>6950417
I have no idea how this fraud spent years training with Watts and Proko to get such shit results. Then to have the gall to shit on their methods while promoting his own mentorship . Something’s wrong with him

[Anonymous No.6950591]

>been grinding exercises and courses for a couple of months
>realize, when they talk about drawing from imagination, that I haven't drawn anything with no reference since I started actually trying to get better
>oh fuck what if I can't
>give it a quick try, about an hour later this is what I got
honestly, even with the dirty lines and all the anatomy mistakes I'm kind of proud. I couldn't fucking imagine drawing something like this without a bunch of references 3 months ago
WAAGMI bros

[Anonymous No.6950594]

>>6950591
Point and laugh

[Anonymous No.6950595]

>>6950591

[Anonymous No.6950599]

Hello beg, this grid is insane. LOOMIS!

>>6950532
that nose is pro tier. at this point you are hold back by the shitty pencil medium. Get oil based color pencils in dark red or dark blue. Or charcoal. Or start implementing INK above the grafite. Also read keys to drawing, chapter about textures so you know how to draw hair
>>6950465
nice bug
>>6950442
keys to drawing, from page 1
>>6950384
the stolen brick wall texture is breaking the focus on the important parts. Learn how to make your own textures or just how to steal textures better so they dont stand out so much. The soft vs hard edges in shadows are super inconsistent. The whole composition is a MESS. The black bars kinda make it looks more like comic page with panels rather than 1 artwork. And you put just too much stuff into it. Value range is mostly just gray. Some objects are too perfect (fridge). The red robots rendering is like its from different universe.
>>6950352
try out yandex. since google censors everything these days i use that instead
>>6950252
i use art books to guide me
>>6950148
booba
>>6950019
you need to practice feet and hands
>>6949979
i kneel
>>6949873
aztec type of SOUL
>>6949827
use charcoal pencil, hit F5 and in section transparency change the chart so it is linear from 0 to 100. And yes, welcome to the digital world where default brushes are ASS. You have to steal someones or make your own.
>>6949729
shit value range, you are scared of using hard round brush, resulting in piss poor hard edges
>>6949437
i kneel
>>6949436
here is pro tip: always invent drapery folds so they ENHANCE form of the figure underneath it. Even if it is unrealistic, BEND that fabric so it shows cylinder under
>>6949421
it is the best

[Anonymous No.6950600]

>>6950591
my dumbass forgot image
>>6950594
>>6950595
very funny

[Anonymous No.6950608]

I practiced some construction and a bit of last minute shadow mapping from the reference below.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6bsSEcaQAAEEXc?format=jpg&name=large
Could you tell me what I've incorrectly and correctly, please? I feel a few things I've done are incorrect, but I want to see what you guys have to say.

[Anonymous No.6950609]

>>6950180
>Forgetting how many toes a foot has within 12 hours
That is a little concerning ngl

[Anonymous No.6950613]

>>6950608
1. Sorry the image is incorrectly oriented. Damn phone.
2. I drew from a 6 in by 4.5 in space, for context.

[Anonymous No.6950618]

Starting to feel a bit unmotivated with art. I've been going to figure drawing sessions every day for 3 months and feel like I've only improved slightly. Does it really take that long to become good? I'm willing to put in the work, but man it feels like a slog sometimes.

[Anonymous No.6950620]

>>6950618

[Anonymous No.6950621]

>>6950620

[Anonymous No.6950624]

>>6950621

[Anonymous No.6950625]

>>6950624

[Anonymous No.6950632]

>>6950618
It takes a lot of time and alot of despair. You will hit the floor many times over many years but as long as you don't quit you will at some point get good. Motivation is fickle and will not carry you to where you want to be so you just have to make it a habit instead of relying on that. Small breaks are perfectly okay too.

[Anonymous No.6950639]

>>6950554
not that good but cha-know

[Anonymous No.6950651]

>>6950618
Life drawing is great but you're not drawing in a way that's conductive to learning. Look up lessons or get a book, something to give you direction.

[Anonymous No.6950654]

When copying something what's a good technique to keep proportions correct? Especially when i want to make a thumbnail or make the copy bigger?

[Anonymous No.6950659]

>>6950654
the Reilly method

[Anonymous No.6950663]

>>6950654
either trad or digitally the drafting compass is the best for measuring proportions, with time you get the hang of it and use it less and less.

[Anonymous No.6950664]

>>6950654
Pay attention to negative space and measure with your pencil. Look up a tutorial if you've never done that before.

[Anonymous No.6950666]

>>6950519
>>6950599
I don’t mean any offense as I plan to read the book but is recommending a popular book what other beginners do when they don’t have real advice?

[Anonymous No.6950669]

Once you "get" form and it feels like you draw on a literal real 3d object, you are on your way to be a good artist. The first step is to create a box. Then a sphere, then an egg. Then a cylinder, then a bending pipe, then a torso, then a leg. Always draw cross contour lines to represent the perspective of what you draw.


It sounds so easy, yet it is the hardest thing to learn and get engrained into your head.

[Anonymous No.6950677]

>>6950666
>first anon
Yes lol

[Anonymous No.6950678]

Will learning how to do individual parts, i.e. Eyes, as a focus help me, or should I keep trying to do whole drawings?
I'm worried doing Eyes individually will make me good at them alone, but not improve my overall drawing

[Anonymous No.6950690]

>>6950678
yes. i can do really detailed eyes but it doesn’t matter because they just look out of place and mksproportioned on a whole face lol

[Anonymous No.6950706]

>>6950651
>Life drawing is great but you're not drawing in a way that's conductive to learning
could you expand on that?

[Anonymous No.6950711]

>>6950600
the nose keystone connects to the browline
glad you're seeing some success
drawing from imagination is a skill unto itself, it's good to practice along with practicing from reference.
Practicing from imagination creates problems to solve, which practicing from reference contains the solutions.
wax on, wax off.

[Anonymous No.6950727]

>>6950608
you're doing a lot of symbol drawing and not measuring well.
train yourself to measure more carefully

[Anonymous No.6950729]

I started drawing a week ago is this good? I don't know what I'm drawing I'm just copying, I don't think I'm learning but I took great care in copying it faithfully

[Anonymous No.6950739]

>>6950706
It looks like you're drawing what you see without really trying to understand what you see.
There's ways of drawing (gesture, box forms, contour lines, etc.) that are exercises on understanding versus observing. Alongside this you should also study muscle and skeletal anatomy so that you can understand what's going on underneath the skin. It's not as fun as just going to a life drawing class and drawing but it's what will make you improve fast.
Find a book that has lessons and exercises and you'll improve even faster.
You can always do a healthy balance of this and what you're already doing too so that it's not just grind all the time.

[Anonymous No.6950745]

>>6950739
I've never really understood how to do studys desu. Any good books on anatomy?

[Anonymous No.6950751]

>get a few hours into rendering
>step away for a bit and come back
>realize I made her head comically huge

[Anonymous No.6950753]

>>6950609
I was attempting to reproduce the negative spaces that Morpho presented.

Four of the toes are drawn the same, but each of them are smaller than the other - or have you never seen your own in real life? The big toe has some variation, but has generally the same form as the rest of the other toes.

If I nail the negative space of one toe, that's enough to cover the rest of them, is it not?

Conversely, I could nail the number of toes, of which there are at least seven on each foot the last time I checked, but the rest of my memory copy could still be fucked up, and what good would that be?

Every day is a step closer to victory.

[Anonymous No.6950758]

Fuck this, I give up. I don't understand how measuring works, and years of trying I'm still a failure. I should kill myself.

[Anonymous No.6950761]

>>6950751
that happens to me a lot. It's either too small or too big and I only notice it after stepping away for a long while. it sucks there isn't an easier to way to see flaws

[Anonymous No.6950780]

>>6950745
Bridgeman's complete guide to drawing from life. Just understand that his work is rather stylized, you don't need to focus on making your stuff look like his. But the lessons are good, it'll teach you how to study.
Atlas of human anatomy for the artist has everything you'd need to know about human anatomy for drawing in it. It's good to have for reference.

[Anonymous No.6950789]

>>6950780
My instructor actually tried to push me away from copying Bridgman, but I don't remember the reasoning behind it. I'll pick the book up, thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.6950801]

>>6950758
bro just like hold your drawing side by side to your reference and go back and forth looking for what's too big/ too small/ too close together/ etc.
try to figure out the problems instead of wigging out about them.

[Anonymous No.6950826]

>>6950761
does horizontal mirroring help? or not even that

[Anonymous No.6950830]

>>6950826
>>6950751
kek, relatable. What helps me is measuring proportions twice before rendering

[Anonymous No.6950834]

>>6950789
Yea you don't wanna copy him you just wanna follow his lessons.

[Anonymous No.6950843]

study

[Anonymous No.6950855]

>>6950729
copying their favorite stuff is how all kids learn. keep doing it (such that busting out a copy on ~30 minutes is as easy as sneezing) while drawing some stuff you like from imagination. when your stuff from imagination doesn't look quite right, look at how your favorite artists drew it and imitate them. when you are still unsatisfied or have gaps in your knowledge, it's time to do some serious life drawing.

[Anonymous No.6950898]

I've learned that thicker lines = more confidence in the result lol

[Anonymous No.6950907]

>>6950384
Like my modded rimworld with every object around end up made by separate authors having it own perspective, style and level of detail, kind of turd polishing in a way - lot of work on top of shaky ground but I do not believe it is a bad thing just sub optimal.
>>6950548
I do not see much reason why these strings need to be suddenly glued to torso half way, like I can imagine how but I don believe it is necessary

[Anonymous No.6950908]

>>6950727
I thought about it and I understand what you mean. Particularly with the girl's right leg being longer than it should be.

[Anonymous No.6950910]

>>6950907
ah yeah I was trying to show some slack in the right and the left being pulled tighter but I didn't do it very well.

[Anonymous No.6950918]

>Usually busy with work and can't draw
>When I do draw I'm slow as fuck
I did the inking
scared to do the flowers

[Anonymous No.6950920]

>>6950918
Good job bitch. Don't be scared of flowers.
https://youtu.be/368dLRxgttU?si=14sbxzAWwbGDAv9P

[Anonymous No.6950937]

Any advice on how to be more patient with the learning process?
I understand it takes years and years to get good, but i'm only a couple of months in and i'm in my mid 20s, it feels like i'm just running in circles and i'm not going to get anywhere good enough to be proud

[Anonymous No.6950940]

>>6950937
I have two options for you: Keep bitching until you give up, or Stfu and git gud, you decide, the more bitching, the less improvement

[Anonymous No.6950942]

>>6950477
too based for words
nta but thanks for this

[Anonymous No.6950969]

>>6950478
nice moai lol keep up the work on your gestures

[Anonymous No.6950970]

>>6950918
How do I draw faster? I'm seeing what other anons can do in an hour and I'm ashamed

[Anonymous No.6950979]

procreate test

[Anonymous No.6950983]

[Anonymous No.6950998]

>>6950970
knowledge of what are you doing and not be afraid of doing it.
what exist on the picture could be done in couple hours of moderate back and forth. not several weeks of adding one line a day, postponing, monitoring thread and and watching youtube.

[Anonymous No.6951001]

>>6950998
so basically confidence?

[Anonymous No.6951006]

>>6950998
Any specific actionable advice?

[Anonymous No.6951007]

>>6951001
nta, but knowledge, confidence, mileage. You'll get faster. This is part of the reason you are supposed to do timed gesture drawings. Doing 30s, 1 min, 2 min gestures is hard as fuck

[Anonymous No.6951012]

>>6950751
it's not that bad just liquify or skew and draw over to reign it in but I think the bigger problem is your muddy palette, the colors don't feel intentionally dull if that makes sense

[Anonymous No.6951015]

>>6951007
>>6951006
>>6951001

Here's some free resources. Also check out the male and female ref threads that are up right now. I uploaded ~3000 female reference photos you can use.
>>6941691
>>6939077

https://www.posemaniacs.com/en
https://quickposes.com/en
https://www.posespace.com/posetool/default.aspx
https://pose-trainer.com/

[Anonymous No.6951020]

>>6951015
didnt quickposes delete most of their shit

[Anonymous No.6951023]

>>6951020
Not sure. Haven't checked the website in a good two years to be honest, been using other resources/my own ref collection

[Anonymous No.6951024]

>finish study
>actually kinda happy about it
>remember I'm bad and it's shit so I shouldn't be happy about it
>get discouraged even harder than if I just hated it

[Anonymous No.6951026]

>>6951024
Stop being retarded

[Anonymous No.6951027]

>>6951023
i used that site a lot and added a bunch of stuff to my favorites and they just deleted everything at some point and then kept getting the same images. havent been there in a while though

[Anonymous No.6951029]

>>6951024
>lifts weights once
>not immediately seeing gains, not immediately swoll
>depression

[Anonymous No.6951030]

>>6951026
This is such great and broadly applicable advice, keep going based non-retardation anon

[Anonymous No.6951031]

>>6948425
dabu

[Anonymous No.6951035]

>>6951029
Not really the feeling I'm getting, more so guilt about appreciating my practice results sometimes and then immediately beating myself down over it because muh dunning kruger

[Anonymous No.6951039]

>>6951035
yeah, stop dwelling on those thoughts. the important thing is that you did it anon. You'll get better over time.

[Anonymous No.6951050]

I spent wayyyyy too long tweaking this shit for it to turn out as awkward as it did.

[Anonymous No.6951053]

>>6951050
use reference

[Anonymous No.6951074]

>>6948399
I'm trying to use the "Rule of Thirds" more consistently with my works. I'm not sure if I should place the characters and objects on the intersections or next to them.

Applying values to colors is also something I'm learning to do. Specifically, using Screen and Multiply blending modes to apply highlights and shadows to the composition without making the blocks of color muddy or a grey mess.

[Anonymous No.6951079]

>>6949209

[Anonymous No.6951087]

>>6951050
tried to draw over and adjust a few things

[Anonymous No.6951089]

>>6951053
>>6951087
yeah I think the angle I was going for was just a bite too awkward. I'll give it another go tomorrow

[Anonymous No.6951091]

>>6951035
you can feel proud of your work. i think you start to dunning kruger yourself when you’re unreceptive to criticism, i think. so just be open to feedback. and i mean actual constructive criticism/feedback not just some crab saying “it’s ugly” with no elaboration.

[Anonymous No.6951152]

>>6950855
are you supposed to copy it 1:1? I've copied art before and I've been accused of tracing even though I didn't trace shit. Wondering how closely you should emulate the ref

[Anonymous No.6951162]

[Anonymous No.6951188]

>>6950599
>the stolen brick wall texture
I didn't steal it, I made it.
The rest is true
I do like the black breaking it up like it's a comic though. Gives you a bit of rest in a (too) full page.
>>6950907
Yea I keep forgetting to go from big value's to small and get bogged in the details of one object.
Maybe also one of the reasons it took so long.

Thanks for the feedback guys appreciate it.

[Anonymous No.6951207]

jesus christ figure drawing for all its worth is so much work

[Anonymous No.6951240]

What was done correctly here?
And what can be improved upon?

[Anonymous No.6951242]

>>6951240
Proportions. Eyes too high. Overlay your drawing to see for yourself

[Anonymous No.6951244]

>>6951240
Pretty good photo study, I think the head could be a bit "taller" if that's the right word, the zipper placement could also be more accurate and moved to the right. One thing I would try to do as well is instead of using sketchy lines to form the outline, try to use one singular line to build confidence and control. and then use a whole bunch of sketchy lines for the shading. Speaking of shadding, don't be afraid to for for darker values. In the photo the jacket mustache/beard eyelashes and eyebrows I think should all be darker to paint a clearer picture. One last thing the ear's inner shapes could be more accurate but still pretty good

[Anonymous No.6951263]

>>6950666
Yes, but also don't take advice from Pawell he has transcended /permabeg/ and is on the path towards /eternalbeg/.

[Anonymous No.6951290]

One week into drawing do my rocks rock?

[Anonymous No.6951292]

>>6951290
Same fag here idk why it's turned im actually retarded so be patient with me

[Anonymous No.6951296]

>>6951292
it's because it's stored this way in you mobile phone and it's automatically tilted the correct way when displayed by your mobile phone, by cropping it or modifing it and saving it again on your phone it will be stored turned correctly and you'll be able to send it from your phone without sending it turned the wrong way.
sorry for word salad I'm not very good with english.

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>>6951079
This looks really cute, especially with line art added. What's her backstory? Or are you planning to do more?

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>>6950659
>>6950663
>>6950664
all right,thanks

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[Anonymous No.6951343]

Man I wish I could just enjoy drawing without worrying about it being and staying shit for a while but I'm so caught up in not being able to get an engineering job when I've got a fuckin degree for it that now I think I suck all the time ig. Every day it's just cope about how "I can't spend time on this if I can't even do what I'm supposed to, it'll be a waste" and in college it was "I can't spend time on this I'll fall behind" (which I did anyways, but my below average performance isn't the focus here, school hard)
God I wish I wasn't so brain damaged and could just enjoy things again
Thanks for coming to my pity party. No free food, it has a bring your own snax policy, sorry

[Anonymous No.6951361]

>>6951331
>>6951324
>>6951308
>>6951162
based cute pixel artists
>>6951087
dammit is exactly what Id say looking at that bod (if that was 3d real life)
>>6951079
gigabased
>>6951074
I think there are many things on this picture you could work with
>colors are a bit childlike, esp. yellow red and teal on the boxes, they are very intensive. I suggest making this picture in grayscale first, trust me its really working against you
>you could work a bit on the perpective, I had to look at it for a while to realize that bottom right ball is actually a planet
>overall composiiton could be different I think, there are waay too much stuff crammed into your picture, you are making a space drawing so I guess you could probably get away with more negative space. Its too busy now.
>>6950983
this is disturbing.
>>6950979
this is based!
>>6950970
speed comes after you mastered something, do not focus on that
>>6950918
ultrabased
>>6950843
gigaultracute
>>6950758
LMAO you are working against yourself. Setting yourself up for failure, that is the word I would use. If you cant measure then dont make a portrait, do some easy box/fruit still life

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>>6950599
Pawell, when are you going to post original work? It's time for us to see whether you're a permabeg if your copygrind actually works

[Anonymous No.6951400]

how do i find an optimal and streamlined roadmap to just drawing fanart of some stupid tranime characters for total noobs who only can draw circles and boxes? i don't want to kill years on pro level atelier life drawing lessons or random unintuitive construction stuff i saw in kr*nz very """educative""" videos

[Anonymous No.6951410]

How do you guys avoid getting bricked up while drawing from female (nude) references?

[Anonymous No.6951418]

>>6951410
not being a porn addict

[Anonymous No.6951425]

>>6951331
try to use one or 2 lines to maximize line economy

[Anonymous No.6951428]

just doodle

[Anonymous No.6951457]

crazy stuff, this Reilly method

[Anonymous No.6951491]

How would I measure this face? I don't fucking understand and it's making me want to slit my stupid wrists

[Anonymous No.6951510]

>>6951491
with the Reilly method

[Anonymous No.6951515]

is there anything that Reilly method cannot do?

[Anonymous No.6951518]

>>6951515
make the reilly schizo get good.

[Anonymous No.6951548]

>>6951515
you cant apply it to the most unnatural building constructions perhaps, aside from that you can apply it to anything

[Anonymous No.6951566]

>>6951425
Sovl lost

[Anonymous No.6951582]

How do i stop being retarded and actually draw.
This shit is kiling me.

[Anonymous No.6951585]

>>6951582
with the Reilly method

[Anonymous No.6951588]

>>6951582
what do you want to eventually be able to draw?

[Anonymous No.6951592]

>>6951588
People and creepy spooks which are most of the times just humans with exaggerated proportions.
I'm not asking for specific methods or books i already have a backlog. The issue is that i don't draw at all and i'm really bad at putting in work into anything.
I haven't drew in a few months now and even when i used to do it i wasn't very regular.

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>>6951592
do you have any idea what you need to master before you can do that? or is there something else you feel like drawing instead?

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>>6951595
>do you have any idea what you need to master before you can do that?
the number one thing is to make it not look like shit so i guess figure/gesture and shading and all that business with seeing and not symbol drawing.

I have some vague idea but no concrete plan.
>or is there something else you feel like drawing instead?
I'm not that passionate about drawing but anytime i get a strong desire to get something made i reach the conclusion that its years beyond my current skil level and i just give up.

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>>6951600
>i guess figure/gesture and shading and all that business with seeing and not symbol drawing
alright, let's take figure drawing first
what level are you at with that? was there a specific exercise you left off at?

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>>6951606
>what level are you at with that? was there a specific exercise you left off at?
I know some of the theory, read a bit of Hampton's book on it but then i couldn't find any exercise regiment that would hold my hands so i gave up on it.
I've figure drawn like two things total in my life so not great.

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>>6951614
do you have any pictures of your current level of drawing you could post?

[Anonymous No.6951629]

>>6951625
Latest thing i did.
Pretty bad if i daresay so myself

[Anonymous No.6951634]

>>6951629
you should leave verdicts like that behind, detach yourself and think "what is lacking here, and how can i improve it?"
have you tried practicing Proko's robo bean?

[Anonymous No.6951640]

>>6951634
>Proko's robo bean?
Haven't heard of it until now so not really.
Looks pretty neat, i'll check it out.

My biggest issue isn't with resources and courses but motivation. I work but other than that i'm a shut-in and my job isn't very demanding so i have 8+ hours of free time every day, i just waste them on stupid bs and never do anything worthwhile like drawing.

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>>6951640
>My biggest issue isn't with resources and courses but motivation
same here, which is why i want to help you
there's a lot of things i cn say, but i think the two most important ones are:
>emotion and ambition alone are not enough to keep you going, they kickstart your drive but you need to replace them with routine down the line
>vagueness + overwhelming scale will kill your motivation, to get anywhere you need to divide large tasks into clear, smaller ones, sometimes down to the "grab pencil, take paper" level
also, always have a second option ready for when you either don't feel like doing option #1 or when you finish it, that way you don't have to drop your rhythm by looking for the next thing to do

[Anonymous No.6951652]

reilly is a hack

[Anonymous No.6951663]

You know what, fuck it, I will pay an online teacher to give me feedback, I cannot wait forever for /beg/ to post critique and the alternative is discord trannies

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>>6951651
>also, always have a second option ready for when you either don't feel like doing option #1 or when you finish it, that way you don't have to drop your rhythm by looking for the next thing to do
Alright. I'll just copy Brigman whenever i don't feel like doing thing #1. Should work well enough.
I gotta go now but thanks for babysitting me during a spergout, much appreciated.

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>>6951670
no worries man
we just need something we can eventually look back on, so we know we haven't been standing still all this time

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>>6951491
What do you mean? You just measure it. What is your particular hang up? The face is in perspective and it's receding backwards, so you just need to be careful of that.

[Anonymous No.6951685]

>>6951582
Join the anti procrastination club.

[Anonymous No.6951686]

>>6951680
>receding backwards

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>>6951685
i will, trust me

[Anonymous No.6951690]

>>6951689
I'm not trusting you unless you join right now. Draw something for the next 10 minutes and don't think about any other bullshit.

>>6951686
hm

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>>6951690
it was a joke on how i'm even procrastinating on joining the club
i'm having dinner right now

[Anonymous No.6951700]

finished (for now)
adding head, hair and drapery after ive finished studying the according chapters

[Anonymous No.6951703]

with the Reilly construction lines

[Anonymous No.6951705]

Redpill me on Reilly construction.

[Anonymous No.6951710]

it is simply the best

[Anonymous No.6951711]

But, why?

[Anonymous No.6951731]

>>6950983
insane, savedd

[Anonymous No.6951742]

Bros... why do it be like this for real?

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>>6951742
because youre not using the Reilly method, baka

[Anonymous No.6951812]

I will never be japanese, it's so fucking over.

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>>6951812
Oh wait my DNA test showed I'm part polish and they got raped by big dick DK (Dschingis Khan) so maybe I do have a chance afterall.

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>>6951812
This website is 18+.

[Anonymous No.6951939]

>>6951012
>the colors don't feel intentionally dull
I think I get what you're saying. Color is something I really haven't put in any real time trying to understand yet, mostly focusing on values. "Keep it warm and keep the saturation down" was what I kept telling myself on this one.

[Anonymous No.6951949]

does drawing daily actually help you improve

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>>6951948
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>>6951680
I don't know how to do that. I've watched a bunch of videos on how to measure but it doesn't click in my head what I should be doing. It's so frustrating.

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>>6950983
>crabs are exactly where they want to be
chilling

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>>6951939
Ah no worries then, focus on line/form and values for now color can come in later anyways but if you're not working in monochrome I would recommend using a set palette you like or color pick from photography while you focus on values as it can add an extra layer of complexity.

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>>6948399
excuse the /fag/, but I'm beg all the same. Is the line art alright, not including the hair? I'm not sure about the line weights.

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>>6951400
an optimal path is impossible, you have to try different things and see what works for you. best you can do is fail faster and get all your bad beginner drawings out of the way.
if you wanna draw anime fanart then just do anime fanart and study what you don't understand. this guy explains the learning process.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EefqA7epQzk

[Anonymous No.6952693]

im stumped

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>>6950373
>>6950477
>>6950478
Do you have any more? I'd like to see more of their sketchy stuff to examine.