/wct/ - Water Cooler Talk

[Anonymous No.6944706]

If you're on a break after drawing and feel like sharing what's on your mind about what you're working on, the industry, things that excite you about art, or anything that frustrates you about drawing or the process of art then grab a cup of water and chill out here. Remember to keep the discussion on-topic as much as possible.

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[Anonymous No.6944737]

>>6944706
I cant draw as much as I want because of studies and I think I have ADHD.

[Anonymous No.6944741]

>>6944706
I find it hard to make art friends. I am glad for the ones i have doe. Most artists i interact with on here tend to be rude

>>6944737
>i have adhd
I suggest going to a pysch before diagnosing yourself.


>cant draw as much due to studies
That sucks man, i hope you have moar time in the future to draw.

[Anonymous No.6944762]

>>6944741
>I suggest going to a pysch before diagnosing yourself.
yeah, next year I have an appointment to know If its the case.

[Anonymous No.6944764]

>>6944741
>That sucks man, i hope you have moar time in the future to draw.
thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.6944776]

Bros I want to get into the animation industry but I'm having second thoughts. Seeing so many artists say how shit the industry is has driven me off. It has been my dream since I was a little kid but fuck.
Should I just go indie?

[Anonymous No.6944778]

>>6944776
>so many artists
by artists you mean nodraw anons, lazy xitterfags, dropouts or people who have actually dealt with it?

[Anonymous No.6944779]

every day I draw is like groundhog day and I have to relearn everything

[Anonymous No.6944863]

I should have stuck with boxes. I don't know why I abandoned it.

[Anonymous No.6944881]

>>6944779
your brain is a muscle just like any other
if you dont use it, you lose it

[Anonymous No.6944886]

>>6944779
I feel this. I need to put in a little bit extra effort. A

[Anonymous No.6944887]

what's the difference between mattesi and hampton, material/teaching-wise
and what's the deal with hampton vs huston?? some oldass drama apparently?

[Anonymous No.6944904]

>post art
>wait for that one guy who randomly took a liking to you to reblog it (no one sees my posts otherwise)
When do I get out of this mode

[Anonymous No.6944910]

>>6944904
Would you reblog your art? What is notable about it? Is there a hook?

[Anonymous No.6944913]

>>6944910
Yeah it's likeable enough, it's fanart. I'm just relying a few people to reblog my stuff because otherwise I stay under everyone's radar.

[Anonymous No.6944941]

>>6944904
You'll get another fan eventually, then you'll have double exposure

[Anonymous No.6945071]

>>6944706
I just want to doodle with drawfrens at my skill level, drawing with others at your skill level or above is the best way to improve. I see all these youtube videos of people drawing together and it hurts my lonely heart. Any drawing community I join is loaded with begs and I end up taking care of them instead of improving my own studies.

I just want to doodle and get good art advice, but it seems nowadays skilled artists are recluse, autists and crabs scared away anyone willing to have an ordinary discussion.

I just want an artist friend that understands the fundamentals and can actually put them to use. That would be really nice right about now. I hate this echo chamber I've trapped myself in.

[Anonymous No.6945076]

>>6945071
>I want to mingle with the rich only
sad

[Anonymous No.6945086]

>>6945076
I'm fucking rich? I just described my skill level. I guess the Ivory tower is lonely... :(
I just want to be humbled by my peers again anon. I don't mind chatting with people below my skill level or helping them if they ask for help.
I just want to draw with the boys, if there are no boys to draw with I guess I'll be on my way.

[Anonymous No.6945107]

>>6945071
Your mistake is seeking out advanced artists in normie art advice grounds. They might be in more gimmicky art communities, such as comic making or fandom.

[Anonymous No.6945111]

>>6945071
>>6894201
Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.6945139]

>>6945071
>but it seems nowadays skilled artists are recluse, autists and crabs scared away anyone willing to have an ordinary discussion.
I honestly don't blame them at all.
Crabs, autists and bad actors always outscream any reason and always seek to infiltrate social circles. This board is a perfect example of that. You can't have any discussion without it devolving into shitposting, inane namecalling or the discussion being trolling and baiting in the first place.

Being in a community is also a cage; anyone is going to wait until you fuck up or say any wrong opinions or words to dogpile on you. It's all going to devolve into hierarchies and social games.

What you have to find are people that don't give a single shit about social media games, but you have more chances of surviving in open space without a protective suit and oxygen.

Or unironically go outside.

[Anonymous No.6945159]

I need to develop a ritual or something of sorts to prime myself to start creating. Any input?!?!???

[Anonymous No.6945192]

>>6945159
do a just-draw dance. like a rain dance. hop around in a circle, hold your sketchbook and beat it with your pencil like a drum while chanting "E ma ya e a ku ma ya draw!"
don't knock it til you try it.

[Anonymous No.6945347]

The other day an anon made a post in which he said he would forgo his worldly pleasures and instead ritually devote his body mind and soul to art. As someone who has zero accountability this spoke to me. But instead of worshipping a concept, I was thinking of something more idol-istic. I'm considering devoting myself to a god of art, Minerva or Saraswati come to mind.
Any thoughts? To any spiritual anons, is it a good idea to worship a deity almost metaphorically?

[Anonymous No.6945353]

>>6945347
That's how you manifest a literal demon into your life. Don't do it.

[Anonymous No.6945359]

What kind of site is going to replace xitter for art? Is it going to be tumblr again (prob not)?

[Anonymous No.6945362]

>>6945359

probably something chinese that we can't predict

[Anonymous No.6945364]

>>6945353
How often does someone accidentally manifest a demon?

[Anonymous No.6945370]

>>6944706
I've been struggling to draw for a while now, especially finished artwork. Getting started already feels like a chore and when I do I can usually do like an hour at a time, though recently I was able to draw for 4 hours straight. Also minor stuff going on also makes me anxious and it makes me think I won't have enough time even though I could easily get an hour or two in even if I'm busy that day.

[Anonymous No.6945375]

>>6944706
I go through weird cycles of perspective master vs 3D space brainlet. I don't know what causes it

[Anonymous No.6945377]

I draw everyday but most of the time for less than an hour
Its really suboptimal and my progress in learning is very slow

[Anonymous No.6945387]

>>6945347
This has nothing to do with a spiritual life, you are just larping, following the form without the heart. At best you will become a pretentious snob and a laughingstock, at worst a schizo

[Anonymous No.6945400]

Throughout this year I've constantly been getting stuck in creative blocks and I don't know what to do about them

[Anonymous No.6945413]

>>6945347
just fucking draw
a degenerate who draws nothing but loli hentai everyday is more devoting to art than you larping niggers

[Anonymous No.6945434]

>>6945347
Damn, thinking of summoning/believing demons instead of just drawing is crazy.

[Anonymous No.6945465]

>>6945071
Do you have a discord tag?

[Anonymous No.6945467]

>>6945071
join the Drawpile

[Anonymous No.6945489]

>>6945347
tip top kek
ic truly will do anything BUT actually drawing

[Anonymous No.6945492]

>>6945159
Literally make a ritual. Keep your work space ready to go. Create photoshop templates, organize your desktop, whatever. Reduce friction in the way of not doing to doing. Create implementation intentions, "when I drink coffee in the morning, I will start drawing".

Make your coffee, say it to yourself, and start. 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 blast off.

[Anonymous No.6945493]

>>6945467
Nta, but drawpile time is genuinely fun

[Anonymous No.6945517]

>>6944706
It's been a week since i've last drawn since I fell asleep while drawing and the last week was a huge rollercoaster between me falling ill from exhaustion and me trying to resolve an xmas tree scam my mom fell for.
I'm going back to anatomy studies today and I have to say that it didn't feel that bad to miss one week since I can draw anything as long as I have some references and I try a bit. I can draw some cute stuff from imagination too so I achieved something before the end of the year.

[Anonymous No.6945547]

>>6945347
Honor the gods of art and creativity by creating art; it is the only way.

[Anonymous No.6945627]

>>6944737
>I want because of studies
I know that fucking feel. I don't like what I'm studying and doubt I will ever practice in that field. The worst part is, I'm 31 years old. I would send all of that to hell, but I only have two subjects left (besides the thesis).

[Anonymous No.6945664]

>do course
>get overwhelmed
aieee

[Anonymous No.6945702]

>>6945664

That's just what it feels like to get filtered.

[Anonymous No.6945703]

>>6945627
If you dont mind are you working on a masters or are you a late bloomer? Kinda weird to say you doubt you'll be practicing the field if it's a master's

[Anonymous No.6945719]

>>6944706
I realized I like construction and studying others art WAY more than the process of actually making art. I can deconstruct and reconstruct artwork from my favorite artist for 4-10 hours but can't find any motivation to create something for myself. I don't even have something I want to create for myself. It made me realize I'm not actually an artist and been drawing for the wrong reasons. I know studying without having a goal in mind is pointless but it's FUN. It's the only FUN I have with this "career"

[Anonymous No.6945856]

>>6945627
Man... This sucks but is needed.
For me is literally what will determine the rest of my life.
Thanks for sharing your experience, really helps.

[Anonymous No.6945878]

>>6945362
Unironically so true

[Anonymous No.6945995]

>tfw my hands are cold as fuck
I could barely type this post, drawing is gonna be a struggle. Oh well.

[Anonymous No.6946004]

>>6945719
What if you deconstruct and reconstruct life infront of you in the manner you did an artwork. Some people do just that their whole lives. I guess if you are copying stylized(anime?) artwork this won't apply in the same way. (Unless you move to Japan)

[Anonymous No.6946012]

>>6945703
I started university several years ago, but between strikes, political manifestations and personal problems, I have been there longer than usual. Although talking to some of my classmates, it seems that it is not uncommon to meet people in situations similar to mine.
I currently make money by taking commissions and drawing adult comics. I earn enough to support my family, and even more than some of my classmates and big sisters (who have college degrees), but it's not enough and I'm aware that I'm in a highly unstable field.
>>6945856
I wish you the best of luck, anon.

[Anonymous No.6946539]

Why does it have to be so hard

[Anonymous No.6946550]

>>6946539
me when I look down

[Anonymous No.6946629]

Not having anyone to talk to and the social pressures to have an opinion or be invested in something really killed my personality. I kind of just speak when spoken to and can never hold a conversation. I wonder if losing my personality is why I don't have any creativity or imagination. It could be why I struggle with art so much

[Anonymous No.6946660]

>>6946629
the social pressure to have an opinion made you have no opinions?

[Anonymous No.6946721]

>>6946629
I mean, aren't you invested into art? My non-artist friends always think it's cool. Not a big deal or anything, everyone is different. Just be yourself anon

[Anonymous No.6946793]

>>6945347
You are allowed to do this only once you master the fundamentals and reach high int phase otherwise it will be cringe and the godess will consider your art offerings shit tier and punish you by making you into a permabeg

[Anonymous No.6946825]

>spend a year of being a skinwalker of my favorite artist, eating and breathing their work more or less
>finally start to receive compliments from random people that are very specifically worded in a way that describes the artist i was copying

dawn has broken anons. now i can be myself and/or choose someone else to be a skinwalker of

[Anonymous No.6946876]

>>6944706
When I see a so called artist with almost ok painting ability but dogshit lineart, it feels so fake and it makes me fucking sick. It's like they're living a lie. How can you learn one thing but ignore basic fundamentals? i hate seeing their copout obfuscations, their blobs to hide their stupidity, which they think no one will notice. it leaps out at me, glaring at me and showing me how childish and ignorant this being aping an adult really is.
I can't stand art communities, it's rampant with the mentally ill, dunning kreugers, grifters, ego inflators and shitty people in general. Everyone huffs their own shit fumes and refuses to communicate directly, they weave an impenetrable fog of passive aggressive minced words and bullshit, because it's inherently a service-like career, they cant afford pissing off any potential clientele. as such it is effectively a hobby forged upon lies at the get-go for non hobbyists. art should not be overly deceptive in nature, which is why i dislike " hidden meaning " b.s. false art.
They love playing grown up and discussing what people " in the industry" do or don't do, and the embarrassment I feel seeing amateurs who barely draw shitty beginner anime discuss such topics to attempt to seem professional is unfathomable.
Art communities and art discord servers can be some of the most expression-restrictive fucking hellscapes imaginable, they condense and compartmentalize you into overly strict little roles of right and wrong and they see no irony in it whatsoever. Frivolous pleasantries pave the way to a community littered with mentally ill users steering the environment as equals, how fucking nice! Users who never contribute dictating the law of the land, blind leading the willfully stupid.

[Anonymous No.6946877]

>>6946876
Praising jackson pollock, attributing value to some shitty smudges on a canvas, and being unable to define art due to their hard coded indoctrination of ' art is anything bro ' midwit thinking, which allows them to feel like artists at the shittiest of levels. They are no better than soulless A.I. prompters in this way, conflating mindless bugbrained rote motions with progress and wisdom, lacking spirit, lacking passion, lacking UNDERSTANDING - wanting only to make a career out of what they were taught art was by a salesman. Some will not understand, and ridicule, refuse to read, for the best i say.
The vapid, shallow minded pea brained modern day artist, a walking contradiction, a blasphemer of art, makes me fucking sick to my bones.

[Anonymous No.6946885]

>>6946877
I just don't fucking know how to adjust pen pressure man, give me a break.

[Anonymous No.6946892]

>>6946885

[Anonymous No.6946904]

>>6946876
Am not reading this diarrhea completely but you are seething at people who don't have perfect lineart yet simultaneously bitching about art communities being too restrictive? Are you insane?

[Anonymous No.6946913]

>>6946904
he means that they restrict him from drawing pedoshit. in his mind its okay to restrict you from not doing lineart even though the very concept would make everyone in an atelier, as well as every prominent artist in history laugh at you. but it is not okay to restrict him from drawing dogs fucking little girls or whatever.

[Anonymous No.6946920]

>>6946913
>>6946904
>The blog post predicted these posts
Embarrassing

[Anonymous No.6946923]

>>6946920
Your unintelligible wall of shit did not predict anything at all.

[Anonymous No.6946925]

>>6946923
Rude. And suppressive of free expression. The blog poster may have a point despite being a faggot for joining a discord and then whining about it here. Social media interaction is 99% fakeandgay af.

[Anonymous No.6946933]

>>6946904
>>6946913
>>6946923
Struck a nerve, did it?

[Anonymous No.6946936]

>>6946933
>be a retard
>"hey man you're a retard"
>"uhh actually i just btfo you and struck a nerve with my elaborate ruse"

[Anonymous No.6946938]

>>6946936
bruh if you really got butthurt at those posts you're simply identifying with the shitters he's complaining about, sorry to break it to you. later days friend

[Anonymous No.6946993]

Do you guys think that artists are as cutthroat as the horror stories make them to be?

[Anonymous No.6947013]

>>6946876
based especially the first paragraph

[Anonymous No.6947046]

>>6946660
What's the point of having an opinion if you have no one to share or oppose your opinion?

[Anonymous No.6947093]

>>6946925
>>6946925
>Social media interaction is 99% fakeandgay af.
>Social media

No most social interactions involves one being fake, if you're in a job you would act formal no matter what your skillset is as well. Also most people ballwash the smallest of effort because it's the 'polite' thing to do, that's why everyone is "Hilarious" or "Legendary".

Find art friends you can be real with somewhere private otherwise who the fuck cares you're trying to draw pictures for a living. You think businesses bitch about how they can't tell it like it is and everyone is fake?

[Anonymous No.6947095]

>>6946876
unhinged but correct, the most based combination

[Anonymous No.6947096]

Hey are there any places I can keep up with art news? (RSS preferred) art in general, I want to explore and other parts of the industry may inspire me.

[Anonymous No.6947097]

This water tastes like someone pissed in it.

[Anonymous No.6947118]

>>6944706
I've just realized how much drawing it takes to achieve a decent skill level. I'm not demotivated. I am ready to climb this endless hill but wish I had more time in a day. I wish I could quit my job and grind art 15 hours a day and make some money with that. I don't want to be rich. I want enough to survive so I can continue drawing. Even though I am nowhere near satisfied with my current art skills, I am slowly gaining the confidence to post my art online again. I think I am getting over the perfectionism that held me back so much. I want to create stories and characters people can relate to. Bring my own emotions and experiences into it. I'm sick of fanart. I feel like the majority of modern artists focus too much on drawing other people's work (fanart) and forget that art is all about self-expression. It's like the human aspect of art gets pushed further back and the marketability and "attractive" aspects get pushed forward. Almost like it's just a product for consumption.
I dislike this whole "irony-poisoning" that's been having a chokehold on a lot of artists over the past decade. No one dares to be authentic anymore. Everybody is scared of potential confrontation and how they're viewed by others. Every attempt at being human and showing emotion gets shot down or muddied by the artist themself or by the audience through irony. I feel like we're about to witness a big crash and rebirth in the next 10 or so years.

[Anonymous No.6947143]

>>6947118
You sound like someone who thinks abstract art is the highest form of art. There will be no crash and rebirth or disintrest for anime art; Japan has been pushing moeglop for 40+ years and with each decade more people keep coming back to the formula. A formula that works.

[Anonymous No.6947151]

>>6947118
Yeah we're all getting sick of irony. The only ones who aren't, are the ones who don't have any other personality to fall back on. If they aren't a quirky detached smartass with irony armor, then who the hell even are they? Without irony they'd just be an annoying jackass. Large waves of people are starting to see that, now that the novelty of it has worn off.

[Anonymous No.6947152]

>>6947118
There is no authenticity without irony. Irony is to authenticity what salt and pepper is to food

[Anonymous No.6947156]

Look at all the retards ITT who can't into irony. You just have autism

[Anonymous No.6947160]

>>6947156

Tell me something I don't know about myself.

[Anonymous No.6947174]

>>6947156
autism will be the next big trend and you will be left in the dust where you belong loser I'm a trend setter

[Anonymous No.6947177]

>>6947118
>>6947156
not him but it gets so fucking boring and tiresome having that same phenotype in every community, just an anime avatar who tries hard to be cool by communicating in pre-cooked meme reactions, no real original thought, just passive aggressive reaction images of a judgmental hamster eating nuts or some dumb shit, scared to share something that exists within them because it could be criticized or it could make them seem not cool.
the too cool for school forced aloofness is poison, that guy was right

[Anonymous No.6947178]

>>6947143
I actually think abstract art is a meme created for money laundering. I don't mind that anime is here to stay. I like some anime. What I don't like is how surface-level most art has become. How many art pieces have you witnessed that have truly touched your soul? You can tell that someone has put their humanity into this shit to the point you could grab the person's heart that drew it. It's not about effort or skill-level or realism or anime. I just want to see the human experience reflected within an art piece. But the majority of modern art is fan art now. How can one call themselves an artist if all you do is reference other people's work and never create anything that you can call your own? People are too afraid to expose who they truly are through their art and would rather draw attractive products with the sole purpose of being consumed.
I want to ask every fan artist if they are truly content with dying as a fan artist. That this is the legacy you have left behind. People will never know who you really were, just by looking at your art. They will only see that one FOTM anime girl that everyone else drew back then. Is there nothing better in life than being born with the ability to create and to potentially change someone's life and way of thinking just by looking at your art, seeing your characters, and reading your stories?

>>6947152
>There is no authenticity without irony. Irony is to authenticity what salt and pepper is to food
But don't you think there's been an abundance of salt and not enough pepper lately?

[Anonymous No.6947184]

>>6946876
you are autistic

[Anonymous No.6947194]

>>6947178

Nigga it's just a drawing. You act like you need to leave behind the wall of the Sistine Chapel before you die. You say "read your stories", are you a writer? Or are you forgetting you're a visual communicator who brings to life the writer's vison? Know your role.

[Anonymous No.6947203]

>>6947177
ok well the reverse archetype would be le triggered woke leftoid or his nearly identical counterpart le triggered rightoid incel who bitches and cries about i am so sad and lonely and traumatized by (insert here : women, western civilization, the postmodern world, capitalism, my sexual assault story, the global north, elon musk, being raised by a single mother, the patriarchy) and you all should listen and care because i am very important and please respect my feelings. like actually i don’t get how we collectively came to the conclusion that it is not encouraged to express one’s feelings today when there has never been a time where people have been more entitled and had main character syndrome about everything. to the anons who responded to me calling them autistic, i have autism too so stop being dramatic.

[Anonymous No.6947217]

>>6947194
You don't know how fucking sad it makes me seeing you put a cap on your potential. Where's your resolve, man? Do you not want to leave something behind, proof that you once were human and alive too? Why do you draw? Why do you call yourself an artist? What's your purpose in life?

[Anonymous No.6947458]

Does anyone else want to do fun stuff for a project but watched too many documentaries growing up and now need everything to make sense or be grounded in reality?

[Anonymous No.6947466]

>>6947217
I want to work on seasonal Chinese cartoon slop. My purpose in life is to bring these characters life like how God breathed air into the first humans from just sand.

[Anonymous No.6947629]

>>6947203
In my experience it's the epic anime avatar aloofnessfags who are the far left/tranny/pinko adjacent phenotype, labeling anything they don't like as pol or groomer/pedo, while they post depraved lolishit garbage

[Anonymous No.6947633]

>>6947629
Why does this seem specifically targeted and thinly tailored?

[Anonymous No.6947634]

>>6947633
I am describing a very common trope of community poisoning poster, if you feel like you were being attacked, don't be a schizo, there are just many like you out there

[Anonymous No.6947644]

>>6947634
I don't feel attacked. I'm just taken aback that you're intimidated by a common trope of community poster is all.The fact that there are many of those out there and less of you makes me feel at ease.

[Anonymous No.6947656]

>>6947644
nice fantasies

[Anonymous No.6947662]

>>6947656
What fantasy? You said it was a reality.

[Anonymous No.6947781]

>go back to something months later
>i can actually draw along with no trouble now
maybe i’m actually improving

[Anonymous No.6947823]

>>6946885
play around with the pen pressure feature in CSP a lot until you get it.
HARD: Exponential curve = you have to press harder to reach the highest pressure level.
SOFT: Mirrored version of that (on the x axis) -> you have to press very lightly until you ramp to maximum pressure levels.

Just don't mess with it, if you don't have any issues. For me personally, I feel like most settings try to force you to press down on your strokes way too fucking hard, so I almost always drive a soft curve.
>Insert scratched_up_tablet.jpeg by someone who does nothing but tiny violent pen strokes.

[Anonymous No.6947841]

>>6947096
Good question. I don't have a good answer.
https://rss.feedspot.com/art_rss_feeds/
Boom and Colossal are cool to discover highlights of random artists.
Artnet seems to have mainstream art news, but with a certain political influx sometimes.
None of these probably hit the spot for you.

[Anonymous No.6948678]

I'll either make it or die trying.

[Anonymous No.6948861]

I hate women.

[Anonymous No.6948866]

>>6944762
I know for a fact I have ADHD, worked on it with my doctor for like a year, then finally had to go to a psych. They pulled the "ackshually only I can diagnose that" bullshit that all psychiatrists do for some reason. It feels like I'm starting over.

[Anonymous No.6948875]

I cannot seem to master smooth shading that doesn't look blotchy or banded. Best I can manage is cel-shading. Anyone faced this hurdle? How did you overcome it?

[Anonymous No.6948883]

>>6946876
Hi anon, I would like to see your lineart and paintings. I love art with a good, clear sense of form and it seems like that's something that you like. Can you share it? Do you have a blog?

[Anonymous No.6948889]

>go on amazon for black friday sales
>look at wishlist
>wow, everything is black friday sale, time to stop up!
>check prices...
>everything is more expensive than when i added them to my wishlist but on sale

fucking jews holy shit im legitimately mad. i just wanted some new gouache, yet its gone from $35 to 50 on sale for $40.

[Anonymous No.6948909]

>>6948889
Black Friday has been bullshit for a few years now desu

[Anonymous No.6949477]

This week alone I survived to
>a thesis-like essay of a bunch of /gd/ nonsense
>a brand manual missing the last 6 pages
>three (and a half) difficult AC Install jobs
>a bunch of AC repairs
>a few bullshit errands
>a tortuous spic heat
>a Fusion 1% run
And even though I havent drawn for shit, I recently got commissioned my own blondie and that gave me the drawing rush of my life, de-rusting me instantly.

I feel good about myself, /ic/. Do I feel good about myself...

[Anonymous No.6949691]

>>6945377
Same

[Anonymous No.6949692]

What do you guys draw when getting your daily practice in?

[Anonymous No.6949698]

>>6944706
>do secret santas because it’s a good way to push myself to do a more complex full illustration
>get prompt
>I want a cute girl
>can you be more specific?
>no, sorry.
>do you want it Christmas themed?
>I don’t really care
Fucking

[Anonymous No.6949723]

>>6949692
If I have a goal in mind, I try to do something related to it, like if I want to get better at hair I draw a bust shot or something. If I don't have anything in mind, I just do poses or thumbnailing practice. Things I can just do for an hour or two at least. It helps me to space out certain ideas for certain days with practice in between.

[Anonymous No.6949724]

>>6949723
>thumbnailing practice
Pics?

[Anonymous No.6949727]

I'm a pretty mediocre artist and in a lot of non-ic art servers I'm in there are a lot of dunning kreuger crabs who are on the same skill level as me, but they shit on pro artists for making dumb mistakes and it really pisses me off that they act like they're above them. As if everyone can be perfect all the time, pros can have stuff they need to learn how to draw too. Part of my motivation to improve is to get better than them and leave them behind. Thankfully I do have close art friends outside of those discords who are more sane and less crabby, but we don't talk about art that much.

[Anonymous No.6949760]

>>6949724
I use thumbnails to practice composition mainly. It's normally not as structured as this. I'll have some compositions like these examples in mind, and I'll do things like different types of scenes (nature, city, character, etc) with similar composition or different compositions with the same type of scene. I'll put varying levels of detail according to how I feel. Usually I stop after I fill a page or so. You can adapt this to studying photo refs or character art too if you want.

[Anonymous No.6949761]

>>6949698
Why are you complaining? He's trying to be nice by making you draw exactly what you want to.

[Anonymous No.6949769]

>post
>gets 50 views and 1 like
>delete

[Anonymous No.6949772]

>>6949769
>post same picture twice, one with different color hair
>A or B?
>get engagement
did you try that?

[Anonymous No.6949795]

>>6948889
I noticed they added an “amazon finance” option that wasn’t there before. That’s how they get the poor people.

[Anonymous No.6949807]

>>6949760
Thanks

[Anonymous No.6949826]

>>6946629
You're hopefully just in a temporary rut and it'll get better as you find something that inspires you to crawl out of your husk again. Are you more tactile with your art supplies or do digital?

[Anonymous No.6949829]

>>6949772
That's super cringe and it makes it obvious you're begging for attention

[Anonymous No.6949831]

>>6948875
Don't color pick intermediary tones. That's a begtrap. Use a soft brush and lower the opacity. Pick eitherher the darkest color or the lightest

[Anonymous No.6949926]

>>6946876
kek. fucking unhinged

[Anonymous No.6949932]

>>6949829
do it ironically, make one really obviously bad.

[Anonymous No.6949972]

>nip site would rather block the guy drawing than someone illegally streaming anime 24/7
Okay, whatever.

[Anonymous No.6950033]

>>6949761
The point of these are to draw something nice for someone else. If they’re being completely vague about it you have no idea what they really want

[Anonymous No.6950041]

I drew for someone a few days ago
She liked the drawing. It feels good
Though it could have been better I feel

[Anonymous No.6950064]

>>6950041
What did the internals of her pussy feel like?

[Anonymous No.6950071]

>>6950064
Idk

[Anonymous No.6950078]

>>6950071
you said it feels good though

[Anonymous No.6950093]

>>6950078
The praise feels good was what I meant.

[Anonymous No.6950121]

>>6950093
oh

[Anonymous No.6950129]

>>6950093
If she praised you why didn’t she offer up sexual intercourse as a reward as is standard amongst male to female interactions?

[Anonymous No.6950145]

>>6950121
Do you want to praised for your work so you know what it feels like?
>>6950129
Because she is a good Christian woman
Not everyone is a slut these days anon

[Anonymous No.6950157]

I haven't improved in 4 years

[Anonymous No.6950170]

>out of nowhere I found an absolute GODLIKE pen that blew the one I've been modifying little by little out of the water

Holy fucking shit this is the artist equivalent of fucking a supermodel while your ugly wife it's there at home.
I'm so happy

[Anonymous No.6950188]

On one hand I learn a very structured way of drawing the face and then I find a tutorial where someone draws the anime face in an "appealing" way but breaks every rule where it makes no sense at all but it somehow works. The rules are still there but it's drawn in such a haphazard way they abuse the fuck out of liquify. I'm conflicted if I want to absorb their ability into my bloodstream.

[Anonymous No.6950189]

>>6949831
Thanks. I'll give it a try. I get the feeling a lot of advice is begtrap

[Anonymous No.6950203]

>>6950145
>Do you want to praised for your work so you know what it feels like?
I wanted to be praised by someone but, you know, that'll never happen. Maybe in the next life.

[Anonymous No.6950210]

>>6950203
Link your work

[Anonymous No.6950214]

>>6950188
I just go by feel. On a bad day I can fix a face for hours then the next get it done in a few minutes. Anime side profile faces make no goddamn senses though, not even a lick

[Anonymous No.6950233]

>>6948889
My country made it mandatory to tell whether it's cheaper than 30 days ago. Dunno if it actually works.

[Anonymous No.6950238]

>>6950214
>Anime side profile faces make no goddamn senses though

Me neither. I just keep it simple and call it a day

[Anonymous No.6950241]

>>6950214
Just buy a 3D anime figure, it's not that complex.

[Anonymous No.6950520]

>try incorporating more masking and lasso painting into my workflow
>looks like absolute ass
looks like I got a few dozen google street view caps ahead of me before any of this starts making sense lads

[Anonymous No.6951205]

Apparently I'm good enough to work in the industry but not for instagram attention. What the fuck out of 100+ people reached with my last post I got 25 likes
I found a dude page with really good art that gets like 2 likes per post, shared his page, no fucking body went giving him some feedback.
Wtf social media hates me so much it's almost comical. And what pisses me off the most is that I shouldn't be touched by this bullshit, but I still get fucking pissed
Probably I should just pull the plug and disconnect completely, this shit is for me is just a misery factory

[Anonymous No.6951211]

>>6948883
here ya go, junior, i draw for fun.

[Anonymous No.6951464]

8 years ago I thought of painting a pepe on a square cardboard but then I didnt. Anyway I always think of things to paint and then dont do them or if I start it becomes a mess because my skill isnt sufficient and I dont know what to plan for. Artteachers refuse to interfere or give any practical information.

[Anonymous No.6951531]

I really hate how twitter and most social media reward artists who churn out goyslop more than people who take their time to make something nice.

If you have 1 amazing painting per month vs 30 generic same pose front facing pinups at a beg level or with AI, the generic pinups will always win.

[Anonymous No.6951538]

>>6951531
>The guy who makes more works that appeals to more people is more popular
Big shock!

[Anonymous No.6951541]

>>6951538
Yeah but the fact that pinups appeal to most people is appalling. Even the pinup spammers themselves get laughable numbers the nanosecond they draw something actually thoughtful or original.

[Anonymous No.6951551]

>>6951541
>currently #1 on weekly popularity

[Anonymous No.6951557]

>>6951531
this is why learning to paint/render is literally the absolute worst thing that can happen to your art career. you will always lose to kiddos who cel shade 50 pinups a month. literally spending weeks on something just to get mogged by someone who spends an hour kek

[Anonymous No.6951567]

>>6944904
give me your blog, NOW

[Anonymous No.6951586]

some random japanese person retweeted my old school toei fanart
feels good someone liked it because I posted it on /ic/ and no one commented on it

[Anonymous No.6951596]

I feel like I can’t make anything for myself if I have something I “have” to do that’s unfinished, like a commission or a secret santa to do
This ocd thing was great for getting essays etc done in university but for art it just means suffering
I need to be able to go “ok, art for others is now done for the day, now I can do my own things, guilt free” but I just can’t

[Anonymous No.6951599]

>>6946876
>>6946877
>>6951211
incredibly, dangerously, unfathomably based and unhinged

[Anonymous No.6951672]

I think too many tutorials from different teachers is a detriment and I only really needed 1 or 2 antidotes to unstuck myself.

[Anonymous No.6951793]

there's someone in my internet social sphere who does a bunch of crappy doodles of other people's OCs for fun, everyone appreciates it always because why not? whats bothers the absolute shit out of me is that there are people entering the sphere with the explicit intent of copying that person so they can get the same attention as well and you can tell right away that it's insincere since they're straight up copying posting habits and everyone just nods and smiles because everyone here is not so secretly a massive attention whore and just wants more art
personally ive seen too much internet drama and people who are one bad day away from an-heroing to want to encourage the copycats and i kinda wanna strangle them. is that a bad thing?

[Anonymous No.6951827]

>>6951793
Im gonna keep posting crappy doodles of other people's OCs for fun and everyone will appreciate it

[Anonymous No.6951829]

>>6951827
tfw nobody appreciates my doodles of their OCs

[Anonymous No.6951830]

>>6951827
you do that man, i just dont want
>Im gonna keep posting crappy doodles of other people's OCs for fun and everyone will appreciate it
to become a commodified career

[Anonymous No.6951842]

>>6949477
Good for you, fren :)

[Anonymous No.6951844]

It's so lonely once you get out of /beg/. You can't just keep mingling with /beg/s forever.

[Anonymous No.6951855]

>>6951844
Try uplifting some

[Anonymous No.6951868]

>>6951844

[Anonymous No.6952125]

it's nice that I can cheer myself up by drawing but I can't keep living like this forever. I wish I could afford actual therapy.

[Anonymous No.6952137]

>>6952125
Don't. Learn to wrestle and establish control ovet your mindfuck shit to take control of your days. Therapy is only going to make you even more fragile, the first time you get down bad for some serious reason, it will take you by surprise and push you even more down below
Your mindfuckery is going to stay with you until you die man, there is no normalfag bsrgain bin university graduate that is going to exorcise your satans with a magic wand. Only you can do that, and only you can find how. All the other solutions are just placebos

[Anonymous No.6952170]

>>6952125

>>6952137

don't listen to this guy. He's projecting his shit onto you. You can get better bro. Therapy and medications do actually help. Look into programs to help pay for therapy or a psychiatrist in your area, there might be something that can help you

[Anonymous No.6952178]

>>6952170
Not him but it's 99% scammery bullshit that places a bandaid on a deeper cause cause they want to string you along as one of their cashcows to stack their income. You'll think it helps you because that's the effect the drug has on you

[Anonymous No.6952179]

>>6945362
I'm considering getting into Weibo (for other motives other than art)
Does anyone have experience with it? I'd like to relive the days when I didn't know English and understood jackshit.
>>6951567
If you thought picrel was my drawing, then you thought wrong. It's some manga or doujin panel.

[Anonymous No.6952249]

>>6952125
meds CAN help but the best thing you can do is exercise and make friends. humans are supposed to be active social creatures, the internet + modern work structures go against everything our biology is hardwired for and it fucks with people, some more than others. it's really hard to deal with, especially if you're lonely. speaking as someone who has spent most of my life in therapy and taken various antidepressants (not on them anymore). 80% of therapists are moneygrubbing quacks btw.

[Anonymous No.6952808]

I sat for approximately 10 minutes of my day in sheer frustration, unplugging and replugging my screenless tablet to my laptop because the pen wasn't being detected. The pen was upside down. That was it.

[Anonymous No.6952929]

>>6944706
If you ever feel bleak about the state of this world, just stop going on 4chan. This place makes it seems the world is going to hell and everyone is inherently evil and out to hurt each other. Sure life is not all sunshine but it also isn't the unending hell anons make it out to be. I stopped using this site for a while and stopped feeling like shit. But as soon as I tried to find some resources here and got drawn into some stupid arguments I started feeling shitty again after just a few days

[Anonymous No.6952967]

>>6952929
I'm going to be honest 100%. You feel that way because you're bad (at drawing). If you're here to find resources you're still in the trench wading through mud and crocodiles while everyone else is above you. You don't need this place to "find resources"; you already know about CGP, OCC, GFX, and the various other blog sites. What possible resource are you looking for?

Just stop being bad and when you do you won't feel like shit.

[Anonymous No.6952988]

>>6952967
Man, you are the very type I was referring to. Yeah, I'm bad but I never said anything about being crabbed on, I have only posted once to ask for a red line, and was helped by an anon. But unhelpful people like you who just jump right to crabbing or insulting are the majority, and make this board isn't worth it for what other good things it has to offer. Touch some grass, you are clearly to affected by the internet and this site's negative culture

[Anonymous No.6952995]

>>6944741
>I suggest going to a pysch before diagnosing yourself.
Literally got told I'm not trying hard enough.
I could go get another psych but it would take me ages to search for one, ages to get an appointment and then months to wait for the visit. Also money.
What I suggest for them is to find out what makes them be slightly more likely to work and try to abuse these factors together. Still not gonna work half as good as meds but it's a free and easy(doing things in head is easy) solution.

[Anonymous No.6953016]

>>6952988
If my post was mean I can't imagine what you'd feel if I actually tried to insult you. You'd be devastated. Seeking therapy even.

[Anonymous No.6953038]

I'm having fun drawing bros, feels like my studying is paying off and I can't wait to get home and draw some more

[Anonymous No.6953059]

>>6953016
>t. interweb tough guy

[Anonymous No.6953067]

>>6953059
You're labeled me as such by default.

[Anonymous No.6953697]

>>6952929
I actually feel like deleting my entire internet footprint and not having any account on any site up and leaving this site for good. I don’t even want a youtube account or to look at youtube. All I need is my ani list to track my shows and amazon to order stuff. I just kinda feel tired of the internet.

[Anonymous No.6953702]

>>6953697
but deleting is a hassle so I’ll just let everything digitally rot into a zombie

[Anonymous No.6953785]

>>6953697
> I actually feel like deleting my entire internet footprint and not having any account on any site
>All I need is my ani list to track my shows and amazon to order stuff.
pathetic

[Anonymous No.6953795]

>>6951844
You can help others anon. Do you post in /draw/ or drawpile? We need more consistent anons. And there are decent art servers out there, it's just hard to find. Keep networking and keep growing your art and you'll find likeminded people eventually. Didn't think I would but I did, somehow. IRL stuff is also valuable if there's anything in your area. I live in LA so there's a decent amount of art people who want to get into the industry.

[Anonymous No.6953801]

>>6952808
kek. Been there.

>>6953038
hell yeah brother >>6950844

>>6952929
I came back after two years of not browsing this site at all. It's a little taxing. Stop replying to shitters and go draw more. Whenever you're about to argue just tell yourself, "Why the fuck am I arguing on the internet?" It's always a waste of time.

>>6953697
I kind of did that. I highly limit social media use and don't watch youtube/entertainment except for the weekends. Go work out or go for regular walks instead so you can have more energy to draw. Also been listening to more audiobooks while exercising. It's been nice. Almost done with Malazan.

[Anonymous No.6953805]

>>6951844
aye...

[Anonymous No.6953957]

>>6952929
i'm going to leave this place. i've gone on a diet from 4chan and similar websites for years before. for whatever reason, i always believed this website was the only place that had the balls to tell me their raw, naked opinions to challenge my own thoughts and thinking patterns which was why i kept coming back. but i've grown to realize 99% of people here are at best, as smart as i am (which is really not saying much), and don't have anything insightful or interesting to share anymore.

every time i come here and read threads especially from /ic/, i can feel my thoughts becoming ugly with western thinking disease, then my creative work in turn feels like it is greased with cynicism; which can be aesthetic and poignant when done right; but the result of browsing here feels like reddit/4chan meme slop because of where my thoughts had been churned from. the resulting creative work has the feeling or aura like it comes from 4chan or reddit or deviant art or tumblr; mediocre, generic, edgy, uninspired, amateur, low-iq, lazy, screams "internet addict"... you know what i mean, because at least 1 or 2 anons had described this before in those "art styles that irritate you" threads.

no one actually wants their work to resemble associations with those websites or people because your work doesn't represent yourself anymore, it represents the "culture" of those websites. that only happens on accident because you allowed the mindset and tastes of those people to permeate your brain at the expense of your own individuality.

they say you are what you consume, and as an artist, what you put out is an extension of what your thoughts are populated with. 4chan, reddit, and some other parts of the internet always emanate and promote ugliness in thought and spirit, and have a fast food styled mind culture. as long as i consume my thoughts here, my produced art will have a putrid western smell and stain.

[Anonymous No.6953959]

>>6953957
You will never be Japanese. So you can rightfully fuck off into pretend land.

[Anonymous No.6953972]

>>6953957
>you know what i mean, because at least 1 or 2 anons had described this before in those "art styles that irritate you" threads.
I missed these. did you draw westernized anime doing nothing much? no world-building or finished work? what do you really wish you drew?

[Anonymous No.6953979]

>>6953959
What I say is true. It took me too long to discover I'm too good for this website. I'm leaving shitter crabs like you in the dust.
>you will never be japanese
And you are never going to fucking make it.
>>6953972
>did you draw westernized
I drew pic related, which I've been told by many people in real life is indistinguishable from the real deal, Japanese anime style. Crabs and dunning kreugers in this shithole brainwashed me into thinking it was bad. But now I know better.

[Anonymous No.6953991]

>>6953979
Bye

[Anonymous No.6954052]

I feel like there's a market of these chistmas hellspawns waiting for me to get a profit from... If not, Im still committed to die trying.

>>6952929
I feel the same but about the internet overall. This is something I've come to learn and Im trying to make my mother understand too. The internet sure makes the world feel a lot more overwhelming and nightmarish than what your immediate world, the world you see literally out in your window, actually is.
Getting off the internet every once in a while and just appreciate the small world you physically live in is very healthy for the mind.
>>6953991
Saving this.

[Anonymous No.6954061]

>tfw too retarded to become depressed from internet
feels good mang

[Anonymous No.6954117]

it isn't elon musk coming for the loli artists, it's me. i like to watch them squirm. im not even an anti i only do it to western loli artists. fuck you.

[Anonymous No.6954187]

>>6954117
Same, ngl. Every one of those faggots I ever met was an obnoxious piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.6954208]

>>6954117
so true god bless

[Anonymous No.6954241]

>>6954117
Do you wake up every morning and hate looking into the mirror because you don't see a Japanese man staring back?

[Anonymous No.6954244]

>>6944706
People are asking to use my art as their twitter banner with credit. Even though I know it's mostly for the content (fotm fanart), it still feels nice

[Anonymous No.6954252]

might have to accept that I'm NGMI. Maybe I don't have the confidence for it or maybe I just don't have enough talent but I think I'll be better off if I try to accept it in the long run

[Anonymous No.6954313]

Every morning I go for a walk and in my head, I have a long conversation with the demons who openly state their mission is to take me down for the day. I kill the demons one day, they resurrect the next day. Some days they're successful, but on the days I'm victorious they're pissed and try harder the next day.

[Anonymous No.6954455]

>>6951551
>Generic anime art of cute girls
>Using a picture for the enviroment because the artist is lazy

NTA but this is peak twitter art slop, even if it's technically decent on perspective and poses

[Anonymous No.6954465]

>>6954455
>missing the point of a picture this hard

[Anonymous No.6954480]

>>6954455
peak dunning kruger retard

[Anonymous No.6954487]

>>6954455
this is pathetic lol

[Anonymous No.6954535]

>>6945139
To be clear this is for online communities, right? Or are offline communities just as bad?

[Anonymous No.6954616]

sigggghhhhhhhh ughhh FUICIK

[Anonymous No.6954639]

>he starts posting coom every single day
>it's grotesque to me
>but he's a mutual and friend
>pretend I'm never online
>can't post art unless it's at odd hours
>don't want to make it obvious I'm suddenly ignoring his posts
Im not anti coom but he could have made a new account or something. I keep hoping he never asks me what I think of his new stuff, I don't want to praise it

[Anonymous No.6954649]

>>6954639
You could start a new one. And who are they to you? Just dump em if they are degenerates.

[Anonymous No.6955462]

Japanese artists are surprisingly chat once you get to talk to them

[Anonymous No.6955500]

>>6955462
What did you talk to them about? I could never break the language barrier, but I know some japs on twitter who post in half-English will ramble about nonsense

[Anonymous No.6955503]

>client okays 2 sketches
>move onto rendering
>they give me a bunch of things they want changed that have nothing to do with the rendering, like "oh can her leg come forward" and "can you change the direction of her head" that would require me hours of repainting, stuff that could have been requested earlier

[I have to remind you about this every day. No.6955762]

>>6955462
ywnbj (you will never be Japanese)

[Anonymous No.6956029]

>>6944706
Not rel to wct but here is a chill art discord accepting of any skill level. We mainly do vcs and try to keep stuff drama free

https://discord.com/invite/zMzJuWJr59

[Anonymous No.6956859]

I'm having a fucking meltdown. No drawfren I have has been able to talk to me about this sperg shit:

Looking back the only times I've been able to draw good lineart, maybe 2-3 drawings out of a couple hundred sketches and what-not, over the span of a year, was when I:
a. Spammed a fuck ton of lines during sketching to create volume and fine detail, later lining over on a new layer by choosing which lines to follow
b. Started sketching and slowly turned it into lineart by cleaning it up for hours.
In other words: detailed pencil sketching is the stage at which I can tell if something will be good or not.
The rest? Paintings. Slowly carving out shapes out of clouds of color, like EM fields that I bent to my will; like carving marble.
And so far my only thought so as to why this is: "I can't feel the volume of things with few lines". Then because of that the lines don't have good weight, they don't ever land right and it looks lackluster.
I'm fucking obsessed with drawing but most /ic/ fags just say "drawmore". Well I fucking do and I'm close to an hero because of this shit on my mind and how I perceive my own drawings.

[Anonymous No.6956864]

>>6956859
>he doesn't know bout photoshop.
ngmi

[Anonymous No.6956868]

>>6955462
lol its a mixed bag. Some are chatty but they are racist and banhappy against foreigners.

The rest just turn into hardasses and go full schizo because someone liked their work and reposted it with credit to them. They don't distinguish between someone trying to make money off their work and a simple fan.

[Anonymous No.6957062]

AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
FUCK GRAD SCHOOL
FUCK RESEARCH PAPERS

I JUST WANT TO DRAW BUT UNTIL THIS RESEARCH IS FINISHED AND TURNED IN THIS SATURDAY NIGHT I'M TOO FUCKING ANXIOUS TO DRAW ANONS HELP

I WATCH YOUTUBE WHEN I TAKE A BREAK BUT I CAN'T DRAW FUCK
SCHOOL SUCKS WHY DID I GO BACK

WHY DID I PROCRASTINATE AGAIN THIS SEMESTER AND BRING THIS ALL DOWN ON MYSELF
WHY DID I LEAVE EVERYTHING TO THE LAST MINUTE
FUCK ME FUCK ME FUCK ME

[Anonymous No.6957063]

>>6957062
Similar boar here. Just started going back to school a few months back since my work is paying for it. Having trouble finding a balance.

[Anonymous No.6957067]

>>6957063
MY WORK IS PAYING FOR IT TOO
but yeah full time school and full time work is a bitch. my procrastination came back in a big way and i'm currently trying to pull my grade out of the abyss so I don't have to retake ancient greek again
i am unironically always thinking about the roman empire

[Anonymous No.6957079]

I feel like I've forgotten how to finish pieces of art.
Like, I just don't know.

I sketch, then I line art, then I colo... and it stops there. It's beyond frustrating.
I realize I need to develop a process I can trust but I'm so lost.

[Anonymous No.6957080]

>>6957079
have you tried sleeping on it? do you have a process established for your rendering? having a process down that you can go through without reinventing yourself every time is helpful for me. and yeah sometimes working on a different piece then coming back to something I'm stuck on is helpful too

[Anonymous No.6957185]

Been trying to draw characters and figures a lot more lately, making a real effort to step away from my "I like drawing environments and objects" cope is hard.
What practice do you guys recommend? Those of you that draw characters a lot, how did you get started on that? My current issue is struggling to come up with decent gestures/poses from imagination.

>>6956859
Do you use very thin brushes anon? I started drawing on trad so I usually refine lineart rather than trace sketches. And something I like to do is use very chunky brushes. They can often help you with having a ton of lines than are hard to clean up. Cleaning up thick lines can be a lot easier.

[Anonymous No.6957192]

what does it mean when you post a drawing on /ic/ and it gets ignored? Does it mean it's shit? I've seen some pieces get ignored that I thought were actually pretty decent and sometimes I see "bad" art that gets shit on pretty hard. Does it just depend on the drawing or the mood of the poster or something?

[Anonymous No.6957195]

>>6956859
Unironically pick up some polymer clay and see what you can do with it.

[Anonymous No.6957197]

>>6957185
find a character or subject you like and draw it a bunch of times in different poses, angles, etc. and do lots of studies of real people and drawings you like in different poses. knowing perspective already gives you a huge leg up honestly

[Anonymous No.6957201]

>>6957192
I think it depends on if the poster offered anything. It’s best to outright ask to be critiqued if that’s what you want. Asking for help with a specific aspect of a piece probably garners the most response. Otherwise it’s just being shared and even it appeals to some passing anons, it doesn’t mean they’re going to go out of their way to comment. High quality original art has been posted with no response. Due to the variance in artist ability, some probably feel uncomfortable offering any critique when they see a pro piece posted. Also if it’s not anime/coom, then 90% of the board doesn’t care.

[Anonymous No.6957208]

[Anonymous No.6957331]

>>6954639
Who cares? If anything, coom degenracy is a good reason to keep distance. If he has issues with that then he's the insane one, he cant ask you like that, he's the degen, not you.

[Anonymous No.6957334]

>>6951531
>churn out beg sketches every other day
>fanart so fandom people love it if they happen to see it
>not a crab who seethes when people don't interact with his nondescript polished renderslop
Feels good

[Anonymous No.6957341]

is it valid to shit on unfinished sketches? I've posted my work in progress to get critiques and advice and I just get people crabbing on it or calling it /beg/ even though all I posted was some rough lines that didn't even have hands or a head drawn in yet

[Anonymous No.6957349]

>>6957341
>expecting critical thinking from /ic/
You deserve it
Serious answer: Yes, sketches show your thought proccess and composition if it matters

[Anonymous No.6957358]

>>6957349
I think what bugs me about it is that they don't really give useful advice or take into account that I already know about some of the mistakes of my art.

Like when I post it I'm looking for specific criticism about it. With my last drawing I knew the body was a little flat but it still got called /beg/. I even fixed the issue later on and posted it again but it still got lumped in with the earlier unfinished piece

should I just not post the sketches or something?

[Anonymous No.6957533]

>>6956859
Same here anon
I can feel painting and it’s like pushing and pulling shapes in clay, but drawing feels like dropping spaghetti onto a flat page
With enough time I can make it look alright but I can’t feel it the same way as shapes

[Anonymous No.6957557]

>new DM from other artist
>hey I really like your art :)
>thanks, I like yours too
>never speak again
Is this ok? I don’t know if people expect more.

[Anonymous No.6957566]

>>6957557
Should have used an emoji anon

[Anonymous No.6957573]

This is fucking stupid, but I'm annoyed. I was asked by a bigger artist I'm mutuals with if I'd like to do an art trade. I agreed. I finished my art within a week. But 2 months later, they haven't done shit
This person complains they're so busy right now but uploads new fanart for clicks every other day.
I've pretty much given up on it but it still annoys me sometimes. (Also I only asked them about it once and they said they were busy, but I'm not going to ask again)

[Anonymous No.6957600]

>>6955762
And that's a good thing.

[Anonymous No.6957764]

>>6957573
ahaha. maybe draw your art trade slowly rotting and turning into a skeleton and taunt them with it.

[Anonymous No.6959175]

truly, truly, jannies are paid AI shills at this point

[Anonymous No.6959186]

>>6957557
It may be their way of trying to make a greater connection to their followers and influence the ‘algorithm.’ People are very fake and gay. They may dm every mutual the same thing. Or perhaps they really genuinely like your art and wanted to go out of their way to let you know.

[Anonymous No.6959366]

I wish I could stop being so jealous.
I dont know why getting artmogged stings so much.

[Anonymous No.6959404]

>>6957573
I once had a much better artist start drawing my OC as a free request and they got 70% of the way done, and showed me the progress, only to never continue or speak to me again. I was super psyched too I told them how much I loved it. Just ghosted after that and they went on to draw other stuff. I know it was free and all but THEY asked ME if they could draw it. Sometimes you just get a social retard

[Anonymous No.6959429]

I wish I could come up with a cool art name like Monkey Punch, that's such a cool name...
Yeah I know his editor forced it on him and he thought it was a silly name. It's still cool.
I could call my kid Monkey Punch and all the other boys would think "Hell yeah"

I named myself after a now-dead juice box company because I wanted a name and I had a box besides me.
People think I'm russian now because apparently it sound kinda eastern-euro out of context I guess.
The juice sucks btw it's artificial as hell

[Anonymous No.6959468]

>>6959429
Yes! Progress!!

[Anonymous No.6959506]

>>6959429
Just be like the Japanese and make your username an auto generated keyboard smash

[Anonymous No.6959573]

>a present for my friends at thanksgiving

[Anonymous No.6959664]

>>6959506
Japs who do that don't want to be recognized and often nuke their accounts

[Anonymous No.6959923]

>post your fanart and tag us! we'll repost everyone
>do what they say and post my sfw fanart
>they repost and like everyone's art but yours
ok

[Anonymous No.6959926]

I want this course but I don't want to spend another $100+ when I could use that for food but I need it.

[Anonymous No.6960090]

Made progress! Slow but visible progress!

[Anonymous No.6960159]

>>6959923
:(
tfw

[Anonymous No.6960184]

I want to die so fucking bad right now

[Anonymous No.6960187]

>>6960184
>>6956628

[Anonymous No.6960191]

>>6960184
Wait before you go, can you please donate your equipment to a children’s charity?

[Anonymous No.6960335]

Does anyone else get spammed by bots every time they draw a slightly darker cock than usual? I literally drew a slightly brown dick and got 3 people spamming me with "blacked vs bleached" memes.

[Anonymous No.6960336]

>>6960335
you brought that on yourself

[Anonymous No.6960356]

>>6960336
Eh I am going to be drawing more interracial content to make them seethe.

[Anonymous No.6961192]

I just drew for 6 hours straight, and now I'm gonna draw some more

[Anonymous No.6961225]

>>6961192
tfw drew for 1 hour and felt burnt out already
im done for.

[Anonymous No.6961234]

>>6961225
You'll gradually draw more as you improve
Once you're squarely in /int/ you'll probably draw for hours on end
Unless you're already /int/ then you should find a subject to be autistic about

[Anonymous No.6961242]

>>6961234
nta but reading that actually reassured me. I'm still a begtard and I reach my limit at 3 hours in one sitting so it's reassuring to know that those ultra long sessions will come with experience. I wanna be like those 14 year old artists who can just draw 7 hours without stopping.

[Anonymous No.6961248]

>>6961242
Naturally the better you get the faster you get, and the easier it gets to combine ideas and sandbox anything with the right refs. Once you got sandbox mode and can draw p much anything half-decently, you'll get that reward dopamine like from a video game

[Anonymous No.6962003]

>>6944776
Get good first then do whatever you want to.

>>6944778
People who currently work at major studios have a similar sentiment btw. It's not just some twitter thing.

[Anonymous No.6962047]

I want to paint someone but only have many photographs of her...so I started making sketches of the photos and they are all off and wrong.
Makes me feel badman.

[Anonymous No.6962050]

>>6954639
Be a man. Just don't interact with his posts if you don't like the content, and if he says anything just say that you aren't into that stuff. Don't make it a thing or be rude or weird, but be honest. But also if he never asks, you don't have to explain anything.

>>6951531
You need to stop comparing yourself to others so much. Envy isn't good for you. It's understandable, but something that you should try to get away from. People pumping out goyslop will get a ton of attention, but it's certainly not quality attention.

>>6952125
This is already better than some people. A lot of people wait to be happy to do what they like. Don't draw because you're happy, be happy because you draw.

>>6952995
Unless you want meds (which is a bad idea more times than not) there's really no point in getting a diagnosis of anything. What matters is that you try to overcome your stuggles. A psych telling you that you officially have this condition that has no cure and no cause seems like more of a waste of time than anything.

>>6953991
I would take this a step up and say there's no such thing as "quality content". If something is actually quality, there would be a better name for it that would be used before ever calling it "content".

>>6957201
This is really important. Especially online, just asking for feedback won't garner any good responses. Because nobody has enough context, they can comment on what they know and how they would change it, but at the very least give a topic. Like "how can my linework be better" or "how does the position of this leg look". Because a lot of it is dependent on what your goals are with what you posted.

[Anonymous No.6962717]

My art has lots of variety in that a can't settle on a style. And no variety because there's a lot of stuff I can't draw. Worst of both worlds

[Anonymous No.6962750]

>>6962717
Style will come naturally. Really everyone has it already, it's like a personality. It m will develop and change, but still be unique to you without you needing yo try and show it.
What most people mean by style though, just ammounts to consistent design choices throughout a specific project. For instance if you have a web comic you want all the characters to feel like they belong together. So I would say, don't worry about style, focus on design and storytelling in your work.
(Storytelling can mean as little as showing emotion or some kind of situation within a single figure drawing)

[Anonymous No.6963099]

> be me
> drawing digitally sicne july
> cursor was default on krita, nigh invisible
> never thought anything of it (because im retarb)
> decide one day to turn the cursor on because i was drawing so zoomed out, it was basically invisible
> instant night-day difference
> I used to have trouble finding the middle of squares via diagonals because i'm always off, now I find them instantly.
> i couldn't even connect 2 dots for fucks sake.
> explains why drawing zoomed in is so much easier.

Fuck man i'm dumb and i deserve to get shitted on by this board. But wow drawing is so much more enjoyable when I can actually see what I'm doing.

Any other digital settings bullcrap that's holding me back that I need to change? i did map my tablet to my proportions.

[Anonymous No.6963295]

>pick both hard and soft pencil because heard they're good for sketching and decided to try both
>soft one is nice, but dulls quickly and it's messy
>hard one is barely visible and I need to push pretty hard to make visible marks
>come back to HB on a whim
>it just fucking works
what

[Anonymous No.6963328]

>>6955762
>ywnbj (you will never be Japanese)
>your art will never attract people based soley on your nationality
>your art will never be automatically restricted to the category of "anime" or "manga" because of your nationality
>you will not be exploited by a Japanese company
>you will never be underpaid and overworked
We don't know how easy we have it guys.

[Anonymous No.6963460]

>have all day to draw
>no obligations whatsoever
>draw for an hour
>feel "full" and just stare at the wall for the rest of the day

[Anonymous No.6963468]

>>6963460
This happened to me yesterday and then just as I was about to go to sleep, I thought I'd quickly sketch the base of something for me to complete tomorrow. I stayed up an extra 4 hours drawing.

[Anonymous No.6963475]

>>6963468
so how do you get rid of adhd and draw on schedule like a normal person?

[Anonymous No.6963481]

>>6963475
I draw as a hobby, so I don't really have a schedule. It's just whenever I have free time. Theoretically, if I wanted to have a schedule, I would have a space I go to when it's time to draw and use it only for drawing. Preferably, it would not be my house or at least not my room to make it easier to stay on task. It helps me to physically be in a different place than somewhere I'd relax and not draw. That's just how my brain works though. I'd have to treat it like school and homework.

[Anonymous No.6963490]

>>6962050
>>6954639
Or just block him. You have every right too, and you should
>>6954649
Exactly

[Anonymous No.6963533]

>>6962050
>Unless you want meds (which is a bad idea more times than not) there's really no point in getting a diagnosis of anything. What matters is that you try to overcome your stuggles. A psych telling you that you officially have this condition that has no cure and no cause seems like more of a waste of time than anything.
The only point of psychiatrists is to get meds. Otherwise they are useless. This is exactly why I was there.
I'm trying the hardest I can all the time, I just want something to give me better chance somedays when I really need it. I'd never choose to take meds permanently.
I am getting "there", but it's a progress slow as hell. I'm not looking for any excuses, I just want a push sometimes and othertimes to keep trying my best.

[Anonymous No.6963746]

>go to board I don't usually visit to ask some questions I had
>after receiving answers some posts that it was their birthday and seemed sad about it
>do a sketch for them since I needed to do some warm up drawings anyway and wanted to be nice
>end up sketching for 1.30 hours, received 0 (you)s
I would like to say it didn't hurt but it did a little bit, it came out even pretty decent for what it was

[Anonymous No.6963753]

>>6944706
I want to tell a (somewhat) big account whose content I actually enjoy that I am willing to draw something for them but I don't know how to bring it up without sounding desperate for a retweet (I am).
Maybe something like "I'm running out of idea for what to draw, do you have a suggestion" or something?
I hate being a asocial autist so much

[Anonymous No.6963783]

I had an internal dilemma about having multiple accounts to keep my future sfw and nsfw/rule34 art separate because I want to be a comic artist someday and I feared that having my sincere artistic expressions around the less serious stuff would be bad for me. Like I was going to show two sides of myself on one account and they were going to clash too hard.
However, I decided not to worry about that anymore. I'm just going to post whatever I want and forget about a "brand."

[Anonymous No.6963862]

>>6957192
I've seen plenty of art I've adored but I didn't have anything insightful to say about it
I've also seen absolute shit I didn't reply to because the anon was beyond help
I've seen people post competent work that didn't need any critique
I've seen people post boring work that didn't inspire a reaction at all.

[Anonymous No.6963867]

>>6963746
People also don't say thanks on this very board. Plenty of people have stopped drawing in the OC redraw thread because of it.

[Anonymous No.6963879]

>>6957185
I really like to use sports anon. Sports and athletics gives really good gesture drawings. Golf is great to practice twisting, shot-put for balance and weight practice, boxing for arms and twisting too. Pick a random sport and draw some people doing it, then pick another.

[Anonymous No.6964137]

>>6963753
You are a desperate passionless loser who wants internet points and they are gonna sniff that out instantly.

[Anonymous No.6964437]

>>6963295
Use the soft lead pencil with a light touch on the paper. That'll help.

[Anonymous No.6964544]

>>6963867
apart from (you)s this is one of the reasons I see no point in posting stuff in general other than for monetary reasons, since there's going to be zero interaction one way or the other.
As I kid I dreamed of going online posting my stuff and collaborating with other artists but reality was quite more boring in the end, just post commercial stuff, accrue likes and harvest money, the personal stuff simply keep for yourself.
Maybe it's just a lack of talent on my part, but the fact that every time the pieces I like more are the one routinely less liked, even at work, is not a good incentive to share.
I should add that I'm kinda autistic so maybe it truly is just a me problem.

[Anonymous No.6964740]

>>6964437
Looks like the case. Gotta sharpen often, tho.
Are those mechanical pencils any good?

[Anonymous No.6964750]

>>6964740
I use mechanicals all the time! I love them. I specifically use the Pentel Twist-Erase 3.
I used to use the hard lead often, but it's incredibly hard to see on certain paper, so I just use a soft touch with an equivalent #2 lead instead.
Hard lead still has it's draws, but not with all types of paper, honestly.

[Anonymous No.6964803]

>>6964750
I see. Will buy one to try it out.

[Anonymous No.6964814]

>>6963867
I thought the redraws threads were to redraw your own characters but with current skills.

[Anonymous No.6964815]

It feels like I actually cannot learn anything and any of my art making processes is all about throwing shit at the wall until something sticks - constant sketching, redrawing, adjusting details, hopelessly trying to do construction only to turn out that I fucked up that, too and so on until it looks nice to me, so I post it. Only to realize I still made a mistake somewhere.

[Anonymous No.6964822]

>>6964544
>going online posting my stuff and collaborating with other artists but reality was quite more boring in the end
My idea was that I had to go popular to have actual engagement as in people talking with me about my content, but in reality I pretty much have to do certain type of content to even get single layer of comments on it with no ongoing discussions or questions or anything.
If I got dragonball popular, people would talk with me and/or about my content, but it's pretty much impossible. Not gonna stop me from trying, but realistically I still need years or decades to even get a chance at it.
And I'm not even an artist, I'm in IT and draw as a hobby.(still 23y.old tho, so I've got time)
Money I'll take if given(I'm not an idiot, free money is free money) but it's not what drives me to draw.
Engaging with people is what I really want. Otherwise I'd just be fine with seeing things in my head.

[Anonymous No.6964825]

>>6964815
Slow down. Use more reference than you think you need, study the ref before commiting to the peice.

[Anonymous No.6964849]

>>6964825
I want to learn to draw without much refs because I want to draw stuff in public.
And even with refs I don't have trouble drawing certain stuff, like heads at different angle and properly shaped limbs, proportions are a large issue as well.

[Anonymous No.6964888]

>>6957557
Maybe they just wanted to be polite.
There's a lot of artists out there I follow that I'd love to meet in person and just tell them I like their art.
I don't necessarily wanna be close friends or anything, but I feel it'd be nice to just convey those feelings in person. Nothing makes people happier than telling them you appreciate their hard work.

[Anonymous No.6964900]

Would you fuck this blook?
Also, is it okay to skip around Fun with a Pencil and go to the part I want to draw? I'm honestly kind of tired of faces and I've made it to page 27.

[Anonymous No.6964923]

How has AI art affected you? Have you struggled to get more work than usual?

[Anonymous No.6965126]

>>6964900
>page 27.
Doesn't the actual content start at page 13 or so? 27 is early. You don't have to copy the entire pages if you don't want to. It's just extra mileage, which is good, but if you are drawing your own stuff everyday anyway you are ok.

[Anonymous No.6965128]

>>6964849
>I want to draw stuff in public.
Like Kim Jung GI? He drew with refs until he knew the subject inside out. And he drew in public before he was good, he drew the actual public, he would sit at the upper levels of the library and draw people below.

[Anonymous No.6965213]

>>6965128
So it's like that, huh. Maybe I'm indeed trying to rush things too much.
>he would sit at the upper levels of the library and draw people below.
I was thinking of drawing while being being seen doing so.

[Anonymous No.6965220]

Is retiring early on property rent actually viable or just a pipe dream?
Like, a 7-8% ROI, on ~$70k property. If I get five of those, that's almost $30k/yr before expenses...

I can then just live at my grandma's house out in the boonies and have someone else manage the property.
I'm fine living anywhere as long as I get healthcare and internet.

[Anonymous No.6965897]

>>6964923
not really, the struggle was more psychological, in the beginning at least, now I just got used to the doom and gloom, especially since the
>2 more weeks
didn't actually come true.

[Anonymous No.6966319]

>start drawing suggestive/nsfw
>can feel IQ lowering by the day
coom, not even once. not worth the extra likes. they probably make it worse even.

[Anonymous No.6966441]

Anon, I've copied your figure drawings because I like the way you drew them.
I hope I'll be as good as you one day

[Anonymous No.6966444]

>>6966441
All the more reason why I took it down; can't coincidentally fuel competition.