/int/ & /beg/ - Intermediate and Beginners Thread

[Anonymous No.6923516]

If you are a /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
Use this thread instead of making new threads or post in the drawthread with fundamental exercises.

>READ THE STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
Old: http://www.squidoo.com/how-to-draw-learn
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
>TRY TO BE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK.
When giving feedback, avoid vague "advice" - point what's wrong and try to give the anon you're quoting a clear direction
to improve their art (study heads < watch THIS VIDEO about head structure, read THIS SECTION of THIS ARTIST'S BOOK, etc).
You, feedback seeking anon, should also try to be clear and concise when asking for critique/help.
When posting your artwork, say what you want help with, and what's your goal with the study/artwork.

previous thread: >>6920426

[Anonymous No.6923527]

>>6923516
Remember:
before criticising any of my work I post, I will require this information about you
1. your full name - name and surname
2. the address of your current residence
3. the address of your workplace
4. your marital status and the name of your spouse, if any
5. your annual wage, before and after tax
6. your license plate
7. your place of birth
8. the names of your parents
9. your credit card number and the expiration date
and finally you MUST post your work.
If but one of these points is not met, or, if I am unable to find a Wikipedia page about you, that matches the information you have given, that lists you as a prominent artist in any artistic field, all your critique directed towards me or my work is invalid and actually the opposite of what you say is true and my work is perfect and devoid of any mistakes.
Also, when you do criticise my work, you can not use any word included in the following list because your post will automatically get filtered by my automatic filtering system. You must treat me like a toddler when you criticise my work or I will cry.
https://rentry.org/za5t5

Let's keep it nice and civil in here, folks.

[Anonymous No.6923529]

Redpill me on Reilly

[Anonymous No.6923532]

>>6923529
Reilly is king
loomis is a hack

[Anonymous No.6923533]

>>6923527
Jerrod Girder
I live in a porta-potty behind the kmart on route 50 in southern virginia
I work from home
I'm unmarried but there's a squirrel I'm making good inroads with
I don't pay taxes, fed
I don't own a car
I was born on a plane over international waters, it's a topic of great debate.
My parents names are sleve and marshta
I don't have a credit card, fed
I don't draw. And I think your work is mid.

[Anonymous No.6923535]

>>6923532
pyw (you won't)

[Anonymous No.6923538]

>>6923533
kek

[Anonymous No.6923541]

>>6923535
damn straight i wont, loomer

[Anonymous No.6923544]

>>6923541
because you don't draw

[Anonymous No.6923546]

>>6923532
without Loomis we would still be doing squares like uncivilized people

[Anonymous No.6923548]

>>6923527
My name is Yoshikage Kira. I'm 33 years old. My house is in the northeast section of Morioh, where all the villas are, and I am not married. I work as an employee for the Kame Yu department stores, and I get home every day by 8 PM at the latest. I don't smoke, but I occasionally drink. I'm in bed by 11 PM, and make sure I get eight hours of sleep, no matter what. After having a glass of warm milk and doing about twenty minutes of stretches before going to bed, I usually have no problems sleeping until morning. Just like a baby, I wake up without any fatigue or stress in the morning. I was told there were no issues at my last check-up. I'm trying to explain that I'm a person who wishes to live a very quiet life. I take care not to trouble myself with any enemies, like winning and losing, that would cause me to lose sleep at night. That is how I deal with society, and I know that is what brings me happiness. Although, if I were to fight I wouldn't lose to anyone.

[Anonymous No.6923549]

its because i deny this whole pyw thing with every cell of my being
>>6923546
wrong, loomis is, was, and always will be, a hack

[Anonymous No.6923551]

>>6923549
you don't draw,simple as

[Anonymous No.6923554]

>>6923527
>>6923529
>>6923532
>>6923533
>>6923535
>>6923538
>>6923541
>>6923544
>>6923546
>>6923548
>>6923549
>>6923551
pyw

[Anonymous No.6923556]

I’m still not drawing.

[Anonymous No.6923557]

>>6923532
they're the same shit retard

[Anonymous No.6923559]

>>6923557
the one is king the other is a hack
how these two are the same i fail to see

[Anonymous No.6923607]

[Anonymous No.6923621]

How do I learn to draw like this?

[Anonymous No.6923622]

>>6923621
copy it

[Anonymous No.6923624]

>>6923622
Maybe that's a good idea

[Anonymous No.6923626]

>>6923182
requesting webm of your process when drawing gestures, really like yours

[Anonymous No.6923628]

I've been practicing to draw and write with my left hand, it's actually kind of easy to me, and it's fun. Are there any positives to this? Will I develop my brain more?

[Anonymous No.6923631]

>>6923628
If your right arm hurts you can switch to the left I guess

[Anonymous No.6923633]

>>6923532
7 more days

[Anonymous No.6923634]

>>6923621
you first start with the Reilly method

[Anonymous No.6923636]

>>6923559
you're a retarded monkey brained subhuman

[Anonymous No.6923637]

Practicing painting arms digitally from reference.

[Anonymous No.6923639]

>>6923636

[Anonymous No.6923648]

>>6923607
This is awfully fitting to character

[Anonymous No.6923651]

Been doing a good drawing streak for practice. Planning on posting on /DAD/ as well.

Face practice, with a fineliner/tech pen method I've been using recently. Future pieces may not have too much ink blocking, aside from greys. Especially for the full body practs. Also face/micron like contours, I dig those.

[Anonymous No.6923654]

>>6923651
Previous face study for comparison. I promise to not make the face stills stiff in the future, once I nail down body poses with perspective in mind.

[Anonymous No.6923658]

Well, this one didnt turn out. Posting so you can laugh

[Anonymous No.6923670]

>>6923658

[Anonymous No.6923675]

Is anyone picking their pencil up again now "later" in life? I'm recovering from a decade long depression and have gotten back into drawing every day now at 27. I still have hopes of getting animation school but there's a nagging voice in my head telling me I'm too old for this.

I know it's stupid, and I haven't let those thoughts stop me from drawing, I was just wondering if anyone could sympathize.

[Anonymous No.6923679]

>>6923670
Proof that aliens are among us

[Anonymous No.6923686]

>>6923675
Don't know if relatable, but I before starting again at 28 last time I drew something was when I was 12. I don't plan to earn money with it, it's just an outlet or a hobby to keep thought from coming. But I still want to get good at it.

[Anonymous No.6923692]

>>6923675
i started when i was 28, i'm 30 now. before that all i really did was make shitty sonic comics in middle school with some friends. juggling working full time with learning how to draw is tough so still beginner tier but at least i'm improving. you're never too old to gain a new skill or try something new

[Anonymous No.6923693]

>>6923633
countdown to destruction

[Anonymous No.6923696]

>>6923675
im 22 and feel like im too old
however i feel like i have talent that ive been wasting until recently and that makes up for it at least

[Anonymous No.6923704]

[Anonymous No.6923707]

>>6923658
>>6923679
>>6923670
loomer loomin'

[Anonymous No.6923710]

>>6923675
nobody cares about age but yourself, change what you want to change accept what you can't. My mom went to medschool at 30

[Anonymous No.6923713]

redpill me on Burne Hogarth

[Anonymous No.6923715]

Your brain is in a constant slow decay. You cant deny biology with slogans. But there always enough neurons to re purpose for whatever new task. It will be just more slow.

[Anonymous No.6923716]

>>6923675
I started at 28. So I know how you feel. I have to make up for a lifetime of laziness within a few years as best I can. By far the hardest thing I've ever done in my life, and I'm not a stranger to hard work, I've just never 100% committed to anything until I started drawing last year. I will master art or die trying

[Anonymous No.6923718]

>>6923713
he gay

[Anonymous No.6923719]

It's honestly impressive, I never knew the real why so many artists killed themselves, but I'm starting to get it now, this is fucked.

[Anonymous No.6923723]

>>6923716
at 28 i will either have mastered it or i will have killed myself

[Anonymous No.6923724]

>>6923723
That's the spirit champ go get 'em

[Anonymous No.6923726]

>>6923724
i have 5 years
i am going to make it

[Anonymous No.6923729]

almost time for legs and feet

[Anonymous No.6923732]

>>6923718
why

[Anonymous No.6923746]

study of rox

[Anonymous No.6923748]

technically from life but heres a reference pic i took

open to crits

[Anonymous No.6923749]

>>6923182
>>6923148
>>6923140
Here's my take on it. It targeted a lot of weak points for me and I obviously didn't execute the idea as well as the original artist, and the whole composition is kinda bad (I didn't handle the cloak very well), but I do feel that I learned a bit from doing this.

[Anonymous No.6923750]

>>6923748
why did you only paint the left stack?

[Anonymous No.6923754]

first post. any critique appreciated :)

[Anonymous No.6923756]

>>6923750

Its a wip i suppose

i dunno i just got bored of drawing rocks, figured id get some crits on the first stack that might motivate me to paint the second.

[Anonymous No.6923758]

That ref pack an anon posted a few threads back has some real nice.. material. Enjoying these a lot.

>>6923675
>later in life
29 right now, picked up drawing march this year. I always had the urge to draw as a teen when I was doodling stick figures and copying anime, but I wanted to get into a lot of things back then. Ultimately I got into nothing in particular. Now by chance I'm back to drawing and want to make it stick.
I have no great ambitions, but if I could eventually make it a side-gig that'd be swell. For now I just draw.

[Anonymous No.6923764]

>>6923516
redpill me on bargue plates and gesture drawing

[Anonymous No.6923766]

>>6923754
I want to like it anon but I will need a little more for that. I would like if the shapes were more defined, draw the shorts, other details (just enough so its not vague( and whatever js on the top left corner.

[Anonymous No.6923767]

>>6923764
Nothing to redpill.
Measuring and copying values are both extremely useful skills and gesture is a prerequisite to good figure drawing.

[Anonymous No.6923768]

Ive been doing life drawing for two months now. How is my progress? I've been trying to learn anatomy currently.

[Anonymous No.6923773]

>>6923768
I didn't get to finish the shading unfortunately

[Anonymous No.6923774]

>>6923767
some people said me that you shouldn't be doing gesture as a beg and the bargue plates were a meme
well, they were wrong I guess

[Anonymous No.6923782]

how do i practice perspective? I just got into it and I've learned a little bit, but idk how to grind it out

[Anonymous No.6923783]

>>6923749
what the fuck I can't even make out what shes doing on the left

[Anonymous No.6923784]

I find the similarities between the topics of learning to program and learning to draw to be pretty funny.
>everyone has a different idea of how to start, and will jump to tell you it
>many of these ideas are contradictory
>dizzying amount of resources, books, classes for beginners
>none of these resources fully address all the things you're wondering or need to know
>can barely ask questions because you're barely familiar with the concepts you're asking about
>the people who made your favorite works are almost never the same people whose main activity is telling people how to do it (educators, programming bloggers, etc)
>the people who've made your favorite work sometimes give advice that directly contradicts advice from people known for telling people how to do it (picrel, fowler writes books about how to program and carmack made doom)
>no way to distinguish good advice from bad
>bad advice is either more common or equally common as good advice
>endless arguments about whose advice/resource is better (i feel like i've seen this more on /ic/ but some programmers will say their style is the Objectively Correct one)
>"everyone needs to learn this specific thing" even though it's clearly not going to be relevant for everyones specific goals
>"just code projects/just draw"
>worshipping classic texts/authors (SICP, Loomis) (not saying they're necessarily bad)

[Anonymous No.6923787]

>>6923784
pyw

[Anonymous No.6923790]

>>6923783
which part specifically? viewer left or the character's?

[Anonymous No.6923792]

>>6923707
Can someone tranlsate this? Why is she pointing out which book im using?

[Anonymous No.6923793]

>>6923792
you on dem loomers man
loomin loomin
hope you get better soon sis

[Anonymous No.6923794]

>>6923784
Im a beg artist but have a long career in software development. I think the things you pointed out are just lowest common denominators in any skill/area of knowledge. I see no particular similarity between programming and drawing...

[Anonymous No.6923795]

>>6923792
just ignore this retard, he doesn't even draws
or is over 18

[Anonymous No.6923797]

All lowercase and no period - samefag.
This retard has been talking to himself for weeks.

[Anonymous No.6923798]

suuuure

[Anonymous No.6923800]

>>6923768
work on proportions focus the relationship of the head with the torso, draw bigger

[Anonymous No.6923803]

>>6923794
>I think the things you pointed out are just lowest common denominators in any skill/area of knowledge.
Yeah, I was starting to think that as I was typing it, but I haven't dipped my toes in enough skills to be confident that they're so universal
>I see no particular similarity between programming and drawing...
Well like you said there's going to be similar themes on the basis of them being skills, but also I was talking about how *learning* the skill is discussed and approached, not the skill itself.

[Anonymous No.6923804]

>>6923768
are you reading any books on it? doesnt look like it
i recommend Reilly

[Anonymous No.6923805]

>>6923794
you can view drawing as problem solving, the analogy is there.

[Anonymous No.6923807]

>>6923804
PYW

[Anonymous No.6923809]

>>6923807
shoving my work into your gaping asshole FAGGOT
refer to first post ITT

[Anonymous No.6923813]

>>6923782
bros PLEASE

[Anonymous No.6923819]

>>6923813
you draw in perspective *yawn* next question

[Anonymous No.6923836]

>>6923813
try breaking down a scene, like an urban photo or a room, then recreating it by reconstructing from your breakdown

[Anonymous No.6923838]

>>6923836
nta but would you have an example showing this process? Thanks my love

[Anonymous No.6923848]

>>6923838

[Anonymous No.6923852]

>>6923258
If I catch you posting this shit on twitter I'll kill myself and haunt your balls

[Anonymous No.6923854]

[Anonymous No.6923870]

Can i use this thread as drawing daily general substitute......?
I need to be held accountable for workin gdaily somewhere

[Anonymous No.6923873]

>>6923870
No

[Anonymous No.6923875]

>>6923852
bruh I don't use xitter, I don't intend to post anything I draw here anywhere except maybe to a few friends, we've been enjoying the moaiposters on the side

>>6923870
Sure should be fine

[Anonymous No.6923876]

>>6923873
>>6923875
Alright.
Starting right now. I'm going to draw. This very moment. I will have it done.

[Anonymous No.6923883]

>>6923876
Don't say it just pyw

[Anonymous No.6923888]

>>6923883
SHIT.

[Anonymous No.6923896]

>Autistic, ADHD
>Have never been good at hand writing no matter how much I've tried.
>Tried learning Source Filmmaker as a teen and gave up immediately and couldn't figure out the UI
>Same thing happened with gamemaker
>Can't figure out basic trigonometry
>Essential tremors fucks up everything I try doing
Am I legitimately too retarded to be an artist? Is there really any hope for me? I'm also starting at the age of 24. Am I just refusing to accept reality?

I'm literally just sitting here watching as everyone improves but I can't even start.

[Anonymous No.6923900]

[Anonymous No.6923913]

>>6923888
I'm so fucking bad at this there's a reason why i put it off for months holy fuck.
I want to get good but it is so hard to do even the most basic of things goddamn it.

[Anonymous No.6923921]

>>6923913
i can't even do a basic bitch face . FUck this shit

[Anonymous No.6923926]

>>6923896
Why did you make a thread if you're going to repost in /beg/?

[Anonymous No.6923933]

>>6923896
just kill yourself already

[Anonymous No.6923937]

>>6923888
FUCK YOU
>>6923883
This is legit good stuff anon!
Really love how you placed those highlights on the hair and just the atmospheric background too.
Do you have any socials?

[Anonymous No.6923941]

>>6923900
This has really great vector shapes, feels like a Californian postcard with the palm trees lol

>>6923896
Just draw more, thinking about what you can do and improve, or give up and work on something else, there's no shortcut or magic solution, work to improve your skills it'll take years

[Anonymous No.6923942]

>>6923883
Did you use a chalk brush for the rim light on the upper back?
Really nice texture!!
>>6923888
REITERATING, FUCK YOU.
POST YOUR WORK CRAB

[Anonymous No.6923944]

>>6923896
giving up is retarded

[Anonymous No.6923949]

>>6923516
can i post some /beg/ loli stuff here? they are all pros in the loli thread.
It's a girl dancing ballet nothing lewd, you can't see anything funny on her.

[Anonymous No.6923950]

>>6923937
Thank you but I don't think the initial comment: >>6923888 was meant to be an insult or at least I didn't read it that way more of a ("damn it I need to post my work instead of talking". I could be totally wrong though lol

Also I'll just stay anonymous for now

[Anonymous No.6923952]

>>6923950
Keep up the amazing work, this place is a hellhole anons have no idea of how kino this stuff is

[Anonymous No.6923953]

>>6923942
I used the default pencil tool in Clipstudio paint for this one, adjusted the pen pressure settings though

Also thanks fren

[Anonymous No.6923961]

>>6923942
>REITERATING, FUCK YOU.
>POST YOUR WORK CRAB
I failed at drawabox straight lines exerices. Doing boxes.
After that i will draw some faces and post...........
I'm really bad though

[Anonymous No.6923962]

>>6923941
>>6923944
>to improve your skills it'll take years
I'm giving myself only a year before I'm giving up and killing myself. I've wanted this for six years but other issues had prevented me from doing it for so long.

[Anonymous No.6923964]

>>6923962
ur better than me already and 'm not even retarded.

[Anonymous No.6923965]

>>6923964
You're serious?

[Anonymous No.6923967]

>>6923962
You're already halfway there to being better than pawell

[Anonymous No.6923968]

>>6923962
Try comparing yourself to where you were a year ago, you should definately see improvement overtime, try drawing for at least 30 minutes every day. Push yourself slightly outside your comfort zone and draw things you feel that are slightly out of reach. Or just aim for photo realism to teach yourself about how things look

[Anonymous No.6923972]

[Anonymous No.6923976]

I'm getting fucking filtered by the drawabox. I don't understand anything it says about perspective. WHAT DO YOU MEAN VANISHING POINTS HAVE SPEED TO THEM THEY DON'T FUCKING MOVE THEY'RE POINTS IN SPACE WHAT ARE YOU ON ABOUT

[Anonymous No.6923979]

I'm not getting any of it. I'm really bad at imagining geometry. I should give up

[Anonymous No.6923983]

>draw a woman
>looks like a man
>draw a man
>looks like der coomer
Maybe I should just give up on trying to draw pretty girls and lean into drawing goblinoid dudes.

[Anonymous No.6923985]

>>6923968
the hands are too big and the arms too long

but the hair and face look great

[Anonymous No.6923987]

I give up forever i'm not doing it.
I don't know why i ever thought i could learn this shit. It is too hard and i am far too stupid.

[Anonymous No.6923990]

>>6923983
Looks like the fashion model by Junji Ito

[Anonymous No.6923991]

>>6923987
It's been like that every fucking time for years at this point.
I'll have this retarded fairy tale idea that maybe this time i can sit down and learn something and then i'll do 20 minutes of any given study/course/freeform and i just get absolutely and utterly filtered by banal stuff and i quit for the next few weeks and then i return to it having a retarded fairy tale idea that maybe this time it will be different.

See you in three fucking weeks when i have a retarded idea again goddamn i hate myself

[Anonymous No.6923992]

>>6923976
>>6923979
>>6923987
>Hmm I'll try learning something
>Wait what the fuck I don't understand this subject I've never studied?
>Wait I'm bad at this thing I've never done before?
>This is bullshit I'm giving up

Hey retard maybe you'd idk get good at it or something if you just kept doing it

[Anonymous No.6923996]

>>6923992
I don't get it in the abstract even slightly despite reading through several times. its a good signifier that its just not learnable.
How am i to apply knowledge that i can't even understand let alone internalize.
Even when i work regularly i see no progress and i still get stumped by the most basic bitch shit. Did Loomis twice still can't do even the most basic of faces.
I want to give up but my retarded brain gets little delusional ideas that maybe its possible for me to learn anything which has just been proven false time and time again.

[Anonymous No.6923997]

>>6923790
Maybe I'm retarded but I can't figure out where the leg is and the torso looks like shes squished together

[Anonymous No.6924001]

I'll be back to it tomorrow and i'll probably get mad again and quit forever again and then be back to it the day after i should genuinely just kill myself on god.

[Anonymous No.6924006]

>And above all, you let life defeat you. All the gifts your parents gave you, all the love and patience of your friends, you drowned in a neurotoxin. You let misery win. And it will keep on winning till you die -- or overcome it.

I really fucked up.

[Anonymous No.6924009]

I am also giving up on drawing hahaha it's like kind of hard and stuff

I'm trans btw dont know if that matters

[Anonymous No.6924012]

>>6923516
how do you deal with being so angry that you cant draw? I've tried to just push thru the anger, but I just cant, only when I tend to forget why I'm angry I can draw properly again
any tips regarding this?

[Anonymous No.6924013]

>>6923949
i will take the silence as a no...

[Anonymous No.6924016]

it really is hard but i'll be back and i won't learn anything again. I am stuck forever. I'll be here in a year getting mad for not undertanding 1.2.3 point perspective and going through Loomis for the fifth time.

[Anonymous No.6924023]

>>6924012

[Anonymous No.6924024]

>>6924023
>>6924012
Didn't mean to reply

[Anonymous No.6924028]

>>6924023
>>6924024
is that mads mikkelsen at bottom right?
watching some of his webms/memes make me happy but I'm afraid is not enough to overcome the anger

[Anonymous No.6924029]

I'm drawing boxes tomorrow hopefully that will work out.
I probably won't retain shit just how i didn't learn anything after doing Loomis twice but at this point i can't do anything but try.

[Anonymous No.6924031]

>>6924012
take a day off.
I have my moods where i want to learn but i get angry start tearing my sketchbook apart too. What i do is just throw the towel for the day and do something else

[Anonymous No.6924032]

>>6923997
I did actually fuck up one of the legs but it was the one on the other side. Its definitely a flawed comp because the forearm covers a lot of important information and the dagger cuts the foot off from the rest of the body. It's not really your fault.
Here's a redline of roughly what I was thinking.

[Anonymous No.6924034]

>>6924029
watch the Proko's video on Loomis heads. It helped me understand how to do it

[Anonymous No.6924036]

>>6924031
i draw once every three weeks and i get mad as shit whenever i do.
I don't think taking a day off is going to help me further my goals.

[Anonymous No.6924042]

>>6923996
If you stop now you'll never make it, not because you'll never come back to it but because you always will.

You'll stop for a while, get interested again, try, fail, get discouraged and stop again for the rest of your fucking life untim you die. You're a quitter, that's who you are, but all it takes is not quitting once to be free.

[Anonymous No.6924043]

>>6924028
No it's not him, I lost the reference actually

[Anonymous No.6924044]

>>6923784
A lot of this applies to music making/production as well.

[Anonymous No.6924048]

>>6924036
>i draw once every three weeks
why?

[Anonymous No.6924049]

>>6923852
I feel like the lighting wasn't as natural in this one, the picture was dull lol but the pose is still cool, gave her an arrow

>This anon doesn't know I'm redrawing their stuff to get them to draw/post more and improve, shhh don't tell them

[Anonymous No.6924050]

>>6924049
>>6923852
friggin' captcha resets my file upload for some reason

[Anonymous No.6924057]

Can anyone tell me if this autistic piece of crap is worth the effort? Only the first 2 chapters are worth a damn and the rest is some hyper-autistic shit meant for people too stubborn to use CAD when designing cars.
How will it help me draw anime girls in perspective?

[Anonymous No.6924064]

>>6924057
You're not going to give your anime girl a car? Are you poor?

[Anonymous No.6924067]

>>6924048
Doing it makes me mad and i can't draw anything i'd like. I can't do humans or architecture or animals or basic faces or anything. Its like if you were trying to derivw enjoyment from wood carvinh except the only thing you can carve out was sawdust.

[Anonymous No.6924074]

I still suck at hands. How perplexing.

[Anonymous No.6924075]

>>6924067
why don't you just copy things first and then you can move out to doing several copies put together?

[Anonymous No.6924083]

Wish I could draw in perspective like this.

https://twitter.com/doloreskrosa/status/1673080841159987201

[Anonymous No.6924085]

>>6924075
Been doing that already and its kinda boring.
I should get back to it i suppose.

[Anonymous No.6924086]

Any crits? Tips on rendering dark hair and clothing? Do you guys start with dark flats or light flats?

Also, how do I go about adding colored lighting to hit the subject if I already colored the base? Or should colored lighting be something you plan out beforehand?

[Anonymous No.6924098]

good morning sirs, enjoy this fanart I made of my favorite social media influencer

[Anonymous No.6924099]

>>6924085
what you want to create?

[Anonymous No.6924102]

>>6924067
This is a drawing general, just pwy or giveup your dooming and glooming isn't helping you or anyone else

>>6923854
Gave her sunglasses and clothes lol your pose ideas are pretty good plus the line quality is less sketchy so seems like you're improving also thanks for letting me doodle over em

[Anonymous No.6924105]

>>6923782
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5orI-eYOPys&list=PLMXbAPr21di8DjTKCE3EoS4KFtNZ-FDnP Watch this

[Anonymous No.6924107]

>>6923953
Nice, amazing what one can do with just one brush

[Anonymous No.6924108]

>>6923972
Nice work anon, very good form.
You might wanna post it on the sex general for better critique

[Anonymous No.6924109]

>>6924099
Humans mostly. I know you can do them with figure or gesture.

[Anonymous No.6924110]

>>6924109
>figure or gesture
gesture is just one part of the figure drawing process

[Anonymous No.6924129]

How do I achieve this same lineart?

I tried using this brush https://assets.clip-studio.com/en-us/detail?id=1702962
because I think it looks similar, my hardware is a 6yo small wacom intuos don't know if that matters

[Anonymous No.6924141]

Kill me beg. Kill me. This is hard, too hard, this is what separates begs and ints and i feel how the filter is filtering me. AAAA

>>6924086
value range is poop. even black hair reflect light so it is never a solid mass of black. To add lighting just make new layer, select one of many different layer modes (multiply, vivid light, hard light, color) and then adjust opacity while you draw in whatever color you want
>>6924083
find photo of woman in that angle, draw what you see. zero need for perspective knowledge to make pieces like that
>>6924016
well i am just on my first (and only pass on loomis) and so far the book is HORRIBLE. i dont understand what is there to not understand about perspective. that shit is so easy, literally 3 rules
>>6924012
just pour your feels into canvas. thats how greatest art is made
>>6923983
drawing attractive women is very challenging for the beg. dont beat yourself about it
>>6923976
drawabox is utter garbage. there isnt worse material to learn from. and yes that include him not even teaching you what perspective is. it is a joke. if you want to actually learn, pick up keys to drawing
>>6923949
PYW
>>6923900
i kneel
>>6923883
i coom and kneel
>>6923784
i respectably HEAVILY disagree. in software you have easiest objective ways how to tell you have fucked up:
>code doesnt compile
>code doesnt do what it should be doing
>code is leaking memory
>code is slow
All you said is basically wrong. Non comparable to art
>>6923782
draw a very large cube in 3PP, Split the cube in 4 parts. Draw windows and doors in each of the parts. Now draw smaller boxes inside these 4 rooms. Turn these boxes into furniture and people. Make sure the furniture, doors, windows and people are all proportional utilizing basic perspective rules.
>>6923768
looks like you are on right path
>>6923764
>bargue plates
godlike references to copy with maxxed out aesthetics. you train accuracy and rendering
>gesture drawing
controversial art topic you dont need to know as beg

[Anonymous No.6924145]

>>6923949
POST THE FUCKING LOLIS.

[Anonymous No.6924148]

>>6924129
how would you even begin to use construction to make the bitch on the left? oval or box seems basically impossible

[Anonymous No.6924149]

>>6924129
why?

[Anonymous No.6924189]

Should I keep reading/studying loomis if I wanna just draw cute anime girls? Will it make it easier? Been sketching most days but worried about not making improvement in the long run.

[Anonymous No.6924192]

>>6924129
lock the pixels and color the line art you've already drawn

[Anonymous No.6924205]

>>6924189
i draw anime girls with the ball and plane method

[Anonymous No.6924238]

>>6924148

[Anonymous No.6924242]

>>6924205
>>6924205
>ball and plane method
I'll give this a look into. I'm still fairly new and gettin back into drawing. Been realizing that my desk is small as hell so my curves are more rough than smooth because I'm not flowing with my elbow. Good to feel or notice things that could be improved on my end at least. Thank you

[Anonymous No.6924243]

im back again for my least liked of the 5 pieces ive made. I wanted to display a neet pose, outfit and character and hope the viewer can look at it and glance can get what they are about. This one... definitely didn't even if it was a fun pose to do and it got me a new icon to use via doodle on the top.
>>6924141
>Kill me. This is hard, too hard
Brother I feel that. Sometimes it feels like you got schizophrenia or altimeters because what you thought you got just isnt there and you make this garbled mess.

[Anonymous No.6924244]

>>6924145

[Anonymous No.6924247]

>>6924244
You were right. This is too /beg/ to be coom enough for /lsg/.

Your sketch of before to the right makes me believe you are GMI. Keep up the good work.

[Anonymous No.6924257]

>>6924032
ah now it makes sense, anyways nice work anon

[Anonymous No.6924263]

>>6924247
yeah turns out i was doing the ribcage wrong now my drawings are coming out a bit better... i mean they look human enough

[Anonymous No.6924265]

>>6924238
still dont see it bro

[Anonymous No.6924266]

Is she turning left or right /beg/ ? For me shes turning left

[Anonymous No.6924276]

>>6924266
You know it's weird when I imagine her left leg or right leg forward the direction she spins changes depending one which I pick

[Anonymous No.6924292]

>>6924050
what do I need to study to draw like you I love how it looks so smooth

[Anonymous No.6924294]

>>6924266
default right but I can make her move either way by focusing on her foot. turning left is a bit unnatural for me because the perspective implies that you should see her soles

[Anonymous No.6924300]

i dont have much problem doing the boxes but once i do them and i get to the point of styling like putting clothes i absolutely suck

[Anonymous No.6924302]

>>6924292
lmao do you really think im gonna give my secrets away?

[Anonymous No.6924303]

>>6924302
here have some tiny reis can I have the secret now ples?? :3

[Anonymous No.6924305]

>>6924292
I think it's more of a mentality for line control, when drawing I try to aim to make one long line rather than a whole bunch of sketchy ones like I used to since not only does it take longer but it looks worse. Try to study people who you think are smooth. Slow is smooth and smooth is fast, that quote applies to drawing as well. If you have to undo 10 times before you get the line you want you're going too fast. Practice and intent will help you to get the line quality you're going for. Also thank you for your kind compliment hope this helps

>>6924302
there's an imposter amongus

[Anonymous No.6924318]

>

[Anonymous No.6924319]

>>6924265
feel the form bro

[Anonymous No.6924326]

>>6923527
Gomenasai, my name is Ken-Sama.

I’m a 27 year old American Otaku (Anime fan for you gaijins). I draw Anime and Manga on my tablet, and spend my days perfecting my art and playing superior Japanese games. (Disgaea, Final Fantasy, Persona series)

I train with my Katana every day, this superior weapon can cut clean through steel because it is folded over a thousand times, and is vastly superior to any other weapon on earth. I earned my sword license two years ago, and I have been getting better every day.

I speak Japanese fluently, both Kanji and the Osaka dialect, and I write fluently as well. I know everything about Japanese history and their bushido code, which I follow 100%

When I get my Japanese visa, I am moving to Tokyo to attend a prestigious High School to learn more about their magnificent culture. I hope I can become an animator for Studio Ghibli or a game designer!

I own several kimonos, which I wear around town. I want to get used to wearing them before I move to Japan, so I can fit in easier. I bow to my elders and seniors and speak Japanese as often as I can, but rarely does anyone manage to respond.

Wish me luck in Japan!

[Anonymous No.6924330]

I'm starting to find drawing feet relaxing

>>6924141
try using the bean torso

[Anonymous No.6924349]

Do people actually just not learn to render until they think they can draw well? I've seen people who have similar levels of drawing skill/draftsmanship to me but are pretty bad when it comes to lighting which seems strange to me.

[Anonymous No.6924374]

>>6924349
Nobody waits until they master drawing before they start painting unless they don't care about painting in the first place

[Anonymous No.6924376]

>>6924349
Most people will find one or the other more enjoyable/easier so they'll naturally have an imbalance between the two.

[Anonymous No.6924377]

>>6924326
this isn't realistic anymore, because Otakus don't care about traditional Japanese culture anymore, they only care about loli mecha pilots

[Anonymous No.6924379]

>>6924377
sounds based can you recommend any?

[Anonymous No.6924390]

>>6924189
You learn to draw cute anime girls by drawing cute anime girls, so draw cute anime girls. Loomis can teach you principles and fundamentals of drawing. You can apply them to draw cute anime girls but he won't instruct you specifically on how to draw cute anime girls so you may prefer more direct instruction for that.
This video is quite good on learning how to draw works.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EefqA7epQzk

[Anonymous No.6924395]

Day 23 of learning the basics n whatnot. I was kinda all over the place today with my practice, but it was still fun. I saw a tiktok(yeah i knooow) about how to draw heads/portraits, so it made me really want to try it since the closest i've gotten to a human head is during my line-art horikoshi studies, but the stuff i drew came out weird since I don't really know how to draw facial features(hence the weird voldemort noses and line mouths) My goal is to draw cool and sexy anime characters so it felt like i took the actual first step into getting there. overall a bretty good day.

[Anonymous No.6924397]

>>6924395
cute dogs
>cool and sexy anime characters
no just draw cute dogs trust me bro

[Anonymous No.6924404]

>>6924319
>>6924265
Does this help? lol Just draw the shapes or construction lines in 3d space

[Anonymous No.6924408]

>>6924404

[Anonymous No.6924414]

>>6923516

[Anonymous No.6924418]

>>6924414
>>6924244
Go back to the loli general, BACK from whence you came! OUT OF THIS HOUSE

[Anonymous No.6924420]

>6924414

[Anonymous No.6924425]

>>6924420
thanks!!
>>6924418
i am just trying to learn

[Anonymous No.6924430]

>>6924192
Yes, but how achieve the lineart to begin with?

Tried this alternating between size 3 and 6-7 with that brush, but just seems so hard to make it consistent like in the picture.
Does anyone have a video or something of someone drawing in this style?

[Anonymous No.6924438]

Need to get my guts rearranged by a Taimanin Orc.

[Anonymous No.6924485]

[Anonymous No.6924489]

>>6923626
Thanks, anon.
>webm
Ehm… okay. I don’t think I’m all that great, but I hope this is helpful in some small way. It’s basically vilppu/Hampton, except I'll sometimes just slap down a form without really finding the rhythm/gesture for it, if it’s like a really foreshortened limb or a weird pose with weird overlaps. Rather than trying to learn how I do it, you’re probably better off learning from the dudes I learned from, and then just getting a lot of mileage.

When I do it well, it’s usually because I get the gesture and proportion and tilt of the main masses, find good rhythms for the limbs, then start constructing.

[Anonymous No.6924492]

>>6924430
have you turned off pressure sensitivity?

[Anonymous No.6924517]

>>6924395
Shame about the anime stuff, you have a knack for cartooning

[Anonymous No.6924522]

>>6923607
I know that's Letov over a cyberpunk meme, but what is the text referencing?

[Anonymous No.6924534]

>>6924489
Thanks for the webm anon. Simple yet effective construction. I'm just always curious how other anons with good gesture do it, my autistic brain always overcomplicates stuff so it's nice to see how others do it.

[Anonymous No.6924543]

>>6923626
>>6923182
>>6922993
>>6924534
No problem, fren.
I managed to get you a (shitty) video of those gestures specifically.
https://files.catbox.moe/a0eb56.mov
This also shows what I meant when I said I approached copying that really stylized drawing like any other gesture.

(Video looks fucked because I had to export it from 4K x 4K canvas and a 39 minute video with hundreds of gestures. Procreate exported it in pretty low res to begin with anyway. Sorry. Pic related btw.)
>>6923637
Gotta work on soft vs hard shadow edges, and keeping values clearly separated between light and dark sides. Otherwise good.
>>6923654
The one on the left is really good
>>6923729
Oh fugg I better catch up, good job anon
>>6923749
I think you’re overthinking it. But yeah hyper angle stuff is fucking hard even without heavy stylization.
>>6923754
>posting your work for feedback
You’re gonna make it, anon. I’d say to study Vilppu as a good foundation for figure drawing.
>>6923870
YES
>>6923900
Superb
>>6923968
That’s a beautiful face you drew, anon. Lovely hair, too.
>>6923972
I quite like the lines but I’m not sure why. The perspective on her ankles/ruffles needs a look. Good job.
>>6924050
I love these knees and your line art.
>>6924064
Kek
>>6924141
Good job, king
>>6924318
Excellent hip foreshortening, nice wing, 10/10 would pray to.
>>6924330
Holy shit teach me your footfag ways these are great anon
>>6924485
Lovely as always.
>>6924395
Sunbears are so fucked up looking. Anyway, I’d avoid TikTok art advice.
>>6924430
That looks close to me. Just keep doing master studies and you’ll get there.

[Anonymous No.6924565]

Do you have any tips on getting out of your comfort zone? Every time I tried doing backgrounds or textures I got too discouraged and quit

[Anonymous No.6924566]

I enjoy drawing a certain model on a certain shapewear store

[Anonymous No.6924567]

>>6924543
Thank you gesture king

[Anonymous No.6924568]

>>6924517
T. Obese marvel talent scout who has to wear a sleep apnea mask

[Anonymous No.6924591]

How laughable to even consider myself an artist for a second. Cruel joke of life. Time to grow up and put down the pencil.

[Anonymous No.6924595]

>>6924591
I don't consider mysel an artists yet i still draw. You can do the same

[Anonymous No.6924597]

>>6924517
Are you stupid, they're not mutually exclusive. don't pressure him into becoming a one trick pony like you are

[Anonymous No.6924601]

if you cant read this youre brown and youre not going to make it

[Anonymous No.6924602]

>>6924543
>Oh fugg I better catch up, good job anon
No need to catch up, you are far ahead. Nice gestures.

[Anonymous No.6924605]

>>6924543
god ur so hot and good... can u explain ur thought process when starting a gesture? step by step? pretty please my love my darling? thank yoU!

[Anonymous No.6924655]

premonition
countdown
to
destruction

[Anonymous No.6924657]

>don't feel like drawing today
>know i'll forget everything if I don't
what a bitch of a hobby

[Anonymous No.6924665]

>>6924657
in my case drawing is starting to be an addiction, i am legit starting to neglect things in my life for drawing.
I haven't gone to class in uni, i haven't taken my meds in days because i didn't bought them, haven't study for a test for shit. Whenever i try to read a book i sketch some bullshit or say "5 minute drawing really fast and then i study" and then i spend hours on it.
I am not even good, i just make shit. Would be cool to be addicted but at least to put on some nice works

[Anonymous No.6924666]

>>6924665
yeah that's how I was last month, but I think i burnt myself out like an idiot.

[Anonymous No.6924667]

[Anonymous No.6924674]

>>6924667
saved

[Anonymous No.6924696]

>Want to draw huge breasts
>Don't want to attract the coombrained crowd that ERPS in my very own comment section with my shit.

[Anonymous No.6924747]

My art has been stagnating for years, I'm not satisfied with how it looks but it's not so bad that I feel the immediate need to improve. I just suck as a person

[Anonymous No.6924748]

>>6924696
Victim of social media. Can't even draw what he wants anymore. Idea of drawing for himself and not posting eveything is wild to him.

[Anonymous No.6924749]

>>6924696
>doesn't heard of rule 34
ngmi

[Anonymous No.6924760]

>>6924696
>he doesn't jerk off to the erp
ngmi

[Anonymous No.6924774]

>>6924141
>if you want to actually learn, pick up keys to drawing
I've gotten filtered by it twice before....
Pretty early on too. Drawing machines is hard as fuck.
I'll pick it up over drawabox ig. I've just heard it be shilled so many times in beg i thought its good

[Anonymous No.6924775]

>>6924667
Cute

[Anonymous No.6924782]

>>6924601
My handwriting has come a long way but the end goal looks similar to this.

[Anonymous No.6924845]

Which spot is actually the middle of head? Brows or the eyes?

[Anonymous No.6924868]

neither. the browline is through the middle of the circle-like shape of the head but neither browline nor eyes are the middle of the complete head.

[Anonymous No.6924893]

where do I fall bros? beg or int?

[Anonymous No.6924894]

>>6924893
beg

[Anonymous No.6924901]

>>6924894
aight

[Anonymous No.6924913]

Any tips on simple stylish backgrounds? any good artists as examples? Im struggling to fill in the background. dont want to resort to the usual square.

[Anonymous No.6924930]

Burne Hogarth studier guy here...this is gonna be my last one, just really bored of the figure drawing book and want to move on.

I was suggested to do Vlippu and Burt Dodson next, though I need something to study every day at least while I'm improving. Should I try drawing real people next? Or should I do Vlippu/Burt Dodson and then try it once I know a bit more about drawing?

Anyway, you can see here I tried to use construction cylinders for the legs, but didn't for the arms because I was getting tired and wanted to stop. It took me over an hour to do as I was (as I said) tired and was trying to keep it as accurate as possible, though I messed up slightly as the legs feel slightly too small compared to the rest of the body :/

I'm glad I started learning how to draw properly, I got further than I ever did years ago, but I still have ways to go and am still a bit anxious about stepping out of my comfort zone at times (hence why I was just doing studies all the time rather than drawing my own stuff).

I may redo a bird drawing study I did over a month ago soon that may be a good place to go next to see how far I've progressed.

[Anonymous No.6924934]

>>6924522
One of his songs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xn-kNOhoeMM

[Anonymous No.6924937]

>>6924655
6 days
can you even draw a face or hair? Hope you can learn in 6 days

[Anonymous No.6924946]

I don't remember this movie.

[Anonymous No.6924948]

>>6924946

[Anonymous No.6924949]

[Anonymous No.6924959]

>>6924868
fuck
back to guessing and going by feel, then

[Anonymous No.6924960]

>>6924696
Just imagine they're all smoking hot lesbians. Works for me.

[Anonymous No.6924983]

I have vilppu courses downloaded do i do those or do i do Kyes to Drawing.
I really wanna learn Figure Drawing. Been on the beginnings of Drawabox but i've been told it sucks and i shouldn't be wasting time on it.

[Anonymous No.6924985]

>>6924983
oh forgot the question.

What do i do, where do i go from there?

[Anonymous No.6925014]

i have the spatial gene but i lack the technique gene
am i gmi?

[Anonymous No.6925028]

>draw something I don’t know how to draw using ref, it sucks, draw it with ref and it comes out ok
>draw from memory, it sucks, can’t fix until I use ref
>draw it later from memory, it sucks, can fix parts of it on own but need ref for rest
>draw it later from memory, initially sucks but can fix without ref
is this improvement. and is it literally this process forever

[Anonymous No.6925034]

Hello beg, doing these stickmen feels so silly, double silly when you consider how much effort it takes yet i cannot deny you can legit start construction on these. I will keep looming

>>6924983
1. why are you not drawing? what is your ratio of posting X drawing?
2. figure drawing is hard as fuck, its for advanced begs, meanwhile KtD are even for nodraw people
>>6924949
nice thot
>>6924948
this thot looks older and more used. thumbs up for haircut
>>6924930
>bored
why are you bored? is it not challenging anymore? too easy? do you secretly want to draw cars or landscapes instead? maybe you want to draw lolis or curved women figures instead? Determine why it is boring and then deciding next step should be obvious
>>6924913
steal some photo, paint over it. easy
>>6924893
drawing looks beg. but your water colors added to it STYLE and SOUL
>>6924845
eye sockets are almost always in dead middle of skull. the issue is that there are different races, chins, makeup and haircuts which can visually mess up with your perceived "middle" of skull. literally just google photo of skull to see for yourself
>>6924774
pain is good. it means you are forcing yourself to improve. if it didnt hurt then you woudlnt level up. you have to draw through the pain and ignore the filter feelings
>>6924696
i COOM (and kneel)
>>6924565
art books are nonstop pushing me off the cliff i mean comfort zone. these stickmen, each pains me
>>6924244
cute loli. though i cannot tell if you are using anime to hide your inability to draw well or if you are simply trying to breach into the anime market
>>6925028
or you could just say: just draw

[Anonymous No.6925036]

>>6925028
Yes and yes.

[Anonymous No.6925037]

>>6925034
It's >>6924930
I just wanna move onto something else now at this point, I want to draw people just want to do a different book/style I think.

I would love to draw more women but I wanna draw both men and women...regardless tomorrow I'll do some studies of maybe both just to see what I can do now at this point, now that my brain is more equipped for drawing even if I am still very early on.

[Anonymous No.6925042]

>>6924937
haha

[Anonymous No.6925073]

>>6924543
>The one on the left is really good
'preciate it anon. Doing some perspective pract atm. Did used the CSP 'only Perspective grid', for ridged structures, and to work on Foreground, midground, and background space of an object for depth.

[Anonymous No.6925077]

>>6925073
Have done some organic, on the fly perspective before. Along with the pencil brush test. Also have a Cool Squid

[Anonymous No.6925079]

Break from Loomis to draw from photo reference today

[Anonymous No.6925089]

All I have taken out of these threads is that Pawell is a big breast enjoyer

[Anonymous No.6925111]

>>6923516
is it better to draw circles and ellipses clockwise or counter-clockwise?

[Anonymous No.6925118]

how do I keep up with the current art trend to ride on the popularity wave and gain some followers? I generally spend 0 time on social media and am a antisocial retard so I don't really hang around in art discords and twitter

[Anonymous No.6925124]

>>6925034
>cute loli. though i cannot tell if you are using anime to hide your inability to draw well or if you are simply trying to breach into the anime market
Well it was meant to be anime but you are right about me hidding me inablity to draw through it. I cannot draw realism to save my life.

[Anonymous No.6925126]

>>6925111
whatever works best for you, but practicing both ways is good

[Anonymous No.6925128]

>>6925079
how do you shadow like that?

[Anonymous No.6925143]

>>6923516
I feel like these heads a meh, using bridgman rn

[Anonymous No.6925149]

>>6925128
I use a HB and an 8B pencil and draw with overhand grip

[Anonymous No.6925200]

>got sick
>try to get my practice done anyways
>boxes feel shittier than usual
owari da. omae wa crabu
I shouldn't be shading in the same direction that the form I'm shading, shouldn't I? it looks shitty every time I do it that way

[Anonymous No.6925238]

Reference drawings, roughly 3 hours. pls r8/h8

>>6924543
Lovely figures.

>>6925037
Definitely move on if it's boring you. You can always return later. Try out drawing from references a bit and see if you can apply what you've learned from Hogarth.

[Anonymous No.6925257]

how do I learn this, like where the legs start and so on in such dynamic angles? I know proportions from the front, but how do you make it look natural from these angles?

[Anonymous No.6925278]

>>6925257
60% understanding of perspective and simple divisions. 30% experience of observation 10% bullshiting. first you need to be able to draw a box

[Anonymous No.6925285]

>>6925257
for extreme angles like this find a reference

[Anonymous No.6925292]

>>6925257
First thing I'd do is find an artist who actually does this well. These look like shit.

[Anonymous No.6925294]

>>6924543
>>6924605
please please please

[Anonymous No.6925314]

Please identify my weaknesses.

[Anonymous No.6925326]

>>6925314
There's no penis

[Anonymous No.6925330]

>>6925257
funny thing is that this is not even done correctly,these are all done by feel without following any perspective guidelines
just FEEL the form/mass my man and follow what you think looks right

[Anonymous No.6925340]

Did i actually fuck up the proportions this much or was the problem that i draw in landscape mode? Overall i'm pretty happy with the outcome.
Only after i finished noticed that the whole upper body was shifted and is not straight,not even sure how did i fuck that up.
Also i cannot figure out what happened at the hands that one finger became that big.

[Anonymous No.6925375]

>>6925314
Nice line art, got any general pointers from a /beg/?

[Anonymous No.6925382]

>>6923990
kek

[Anonymous No.6925386]

>>6924050
Good stuff. Looks so fluid and shapely but the breasts are kinda flat

[Anonymous No.6925398]

>>6925314
legs too far apart

[Anonymous No.6925408]

hello. I started past month I am having problems with the box method
I am reading hampton and the problems I am having (the ones I can notice myself): I don't have any idea regarding the thickness of the arm/leg, I don't know where in the box the leg cylinder is inserted, I also have problems connecting the ribcage with the pelvis. my external oblique doesn't look natural at all (should've taken a pic with him boxed, sorry)

also, I googled and there are a few pics of how much the spine can rotate/bend/move, is there any rule to follow regarding that?

I'm doing the box method to practice perspective because a brazilian youtuber said it also teaches me some important concepts while I am practicing figure drawing

also, is my eraser atrocious or am I retarded?

[Anonymous No.6925413]

>>6925408
also, I feel like I'm not training my hands/faces because I don't have much space to work on them, should I draw them separately?

[Anonymous No.6925481]

>>6924244
/lsg/ here. I can draw you a redline if you're still around

[Anonymous No.6925483]

>>6925481
sure!

[Anonymous No.6925485]

>>6924667
looked at it again today and fixed some things

[Anonymous No.6925496]

Shaming is an abuse we are taught to inflict to ourselves.

>>6925485
pretty

>>6925340
(as a beg Id say) it really doesnt matter that if you messed it up because it is an exercise about seeing lines instead of symbol drawing, I would be just happy with that, you will have pletny of chance to practice proportion

>>6925143
get yourself some non line paper

>>6925079
base
>>6924893
beg, but based

[Anonymous No.6925501]

>>6925408
If you have time to spare, you might want to work on getting a "feel" for what the body's proportions are like. Doing 20 minutes of gesture drawing and doing anatomy reps might help.

>is my eraser atrocious?
1. Hold your pencil more lightly, and keep the pencil sharp if you aren't already
2. Get one of those polymer erasers if you aren't using one. They're cheap and they last a while.

>>6925413

> should I draw them separately?
If you want to draw them accurately, yes. Training by drawing individual drawing parts can give you more insight into some of your blind spots. Think of it like something like working on sanding, cutting, and measuring before building a wooden chair.

[Anonymous No.6925532]

>>6925375
I wish I had some but truly don't know what the fuck I'm doing.

>>6925398
Thanks, I'll try to adjust it

[Anonymous No.6925558]

Copied a few Bridgman drawings today!

>>6925034
i liked these!

>>6925079
the shading on this is great

>>6925314
head is too small

>>6925496
very cute

[Anonymous No.6925605]

>>6924318
I like this a lot. Big fat hard round brush strokes and strong shapes make me hard

[Anonymous No.6925630]

/beg/, draw something that's on your desk, now. Don't think, just draw

What's on your desk? Here's a pencil case with a mono eraser peeking out

[Anonymous No.6925633]

>>6925314
taste

[Anonymous No.6925637]

>>6925633
fair

[Anonymous No.6925646]

I'm plan on reading books on perspective, so sorry if my doubts look dumb.
Everything will be tilted towards the vanishing points, however, what if my character is pointing something at the sky in a two points perspective? Does the perspective get applied to the thing my character is holding?

[Anonymous No.6925660]

>>6925646
everything is in perspective. it is not something you choose it is how optics works. far away tree, person, cloud, anything appear smaller because this is how lens works

[Anonymous No.6925682]

and this distortion is not discreet but continuous. if object is further away it will appear smaller. if this part of object more far away then other it will appear smaller

[Anonymous No.6925683]

>>6925485
how do you draw eyes?

[Anonymous No.6925684]

>>6925646
Read up on how inclined planes work in perspective and where the VP goes.

[Anonymous No.6925689]

>>6925684
this is literally what i needed. thank you

[Anonymous No.6925701]

>>6925683
I draw all the features in pairs
both upper lids
both irises
both lower lids
etc.

[Anonymous No.6925733]

Under the stairwell at grandfather's house.

[Anonymous No.6925746]

>have krita open in the background for hours
AAAAAAAAAA

i feel like digital art is harder since It's easy to just undo something and tab out

[Anonymous No.6925754]

>>6925746
Are you doing the thing where you have the program out, made a new canvas, and are now procrastinating?

[Anonymous No.6925755]

>>6925754
yes

[Anonymous No.6925757]

>>6925755
Same. Let's draw anon. I'm going to start now

[Anonymous No.6925777]

>>6925124
to ilustrate my point. This is a good one fo me. That's how bad things are.
I cannot draw facial features at all and i might have fucked the head too

[Anonymous No.6925778]

>>6925757
okay i guess i'm not gonna post it though unless it comes out good wah

[Anonymous No.6925790]

>>6925755
>>6925778

Alright anon, I'm (>>6925757) back. Got started on a zero sketch. It's not amazing but feels good to have finally started drawing tonight. Let me see yours too, doesn't matter if it's shit or not!

[Anonymous No.6925800]

>>6925790
bleh

[Anonymous No.6925802]

>>6925800
Nice dude, doing something is better than not

[Anonymous No.6925805]

>>6925802
yeah i still have to GRIND THOSE FUNDIES!!!

[Anonymous No.6925812]

>>6925805
Just need to keep going. What are you studying with (books, courses, etc.)?

[Anonymous No.6925817]

Last day of learning the basics n whatnot. While it's been really fun, I just don't think arts for me, at least right now. maybe i'll become an artchad when i'm 30 or something. thanks for the tips bros, you're all gonna make it.

[Anonymous No.6925822]

>>6925812
bridgeman guide to drawing from life

I'm like half way in

[Anonymous No.6925847]

how the hell do I actually start? I've tried briefly on and off over the years but I never make it to the point where I'm just content with cooking random shit up. I'll usually just do exercises for a week or two, try to draw something I like, get embarrassed, then stop. I realize this is a retarded way to go about it, but it happens every time. I desperately need a creative outlet but everything I do embarrasses me, even if I'm the only person who sees it.

[Anonymous No.6925849]

I might as well have drawn the proko kangaroo

[Anonymous No.6925850]

>>6925483
honestly this didn't need a redraw, yours was pretty decent already. only things I felt were wrong was the thigh way too thick for the girls frame, and the hand being too small. by the way, since you're drawing trad and seem to have trouble with hands, try to draw them as if they're 3 or 4 finger mittens, it's what I do when doing trad myself since you can't afford to erase the same place too much. of course, easier said than done but bunching up the fingers like this is a good solution for the hands problem I think
a few things on stylization
>try to make the cheeks puff around the height of the point of the nose, otherwise you might end up emphasizing the cheekbones which is kind of a western style trait
>for the hair, try to use these flat, ribbon shapes instead of the spiky bundle. spiky works for some hairstyles of course, but in general, ribbons suit girls better
>you should emphasize the upper eyelids over the lower ones. draw them darker and bolder
>you can have a slimmer neck as a way to stylize it and make the figure more feminine looking
hope this helps somehow

[Anonymous No.6925854]

>>6925850
btw sorry for taking this long to post, I got an internet outage while I was drawing it

[Anonymous No.6925858]

[Anonymous No.6925861]

>>6925847

Download this and draw them all >>6920919

[Anonymous No.6925915]

>>6925850
Anon, this is amazing! thank you!!
you are awesome!

[Anonymous No.6925935]

>>6925817
Goodbye talented beg fren, wishing you all the best

[Anonymous No.6925976]

>>6925790
Tried to clean up my lines a bit. Gonna call this done

[Anonymous No.6925988]

Too tired to draw...

[Anonymous No.6925990]

>>6925988
Don't think, draw this

[Anonymous No.6925999]

How do you actually draw from life? Like not even people just stuff
I thought I had a pretty good handle on perspective but I tried drawing a building I saw while waiting for a class to start and everything came out wack as hell
I'm gonna be stuck 2hrs from home for a lot of tomorrow and I wanna draw but I'm not good enough to doodle anything worth looking at without ref

[Anonymous No.6926005]

very evil emperor

[Anonymous No.6926027]

The worst day of my life was when I realized I have to think when I draw. You can't comeback from shit like this boys.

[Anonymous No.6926031]

>>6925314
I think her upper body gets a bit too small and she's too tall for her proportions.

>>6924485
Super cute.

[Anonymous No.6926036]

><

[Anonymous No.6926038]

>>6925990
i do quick before bed

[Anonymous No.6926139]

can someone pls post the image containing links to the books for learning russian art? the image had yellow ocre-ish background and photo of ilya repin academy at the bottom

[Anonymous No.6926149]

>>6926139
Russian art is not a thing. Maybe in themes somewhat but not in approach.

[Anonymous No.6926162]

>>6925746
I always have Krita open in the background. Fuck waiting seconds for that shit to boot up.

[Anonymous No.6926168]

Sorry for spam but I have a specific question: are the colors good in my picture for the sadness I'm trying to depict? I thought of going with a more desaturated, grayer palette but felt a bit like it would be /beg/-intuition

[Anonymous No.6926225]

>>6925990
could spend more time on it but i dont feel like it, also didnt try to EXACTLY copy the shape 1:1

[Anonymous No.6926254]

>>6925485
Hot. If you used a reference image, do you happen to have it? I would like to give this a try.

[Anonymous No.6926266]

>>6923516
when drawing the head do you guys use the brow as a middle or the eyes?

[Anonymous No.6926269]

>>6926266
why are you asking the same question again

[Anonymous No.6926282]

>>6926269
i am a retard that doesn't read the thread

[Anonymous No.6926295]

>>6926254
have fun :)

[Anonymous No.6926314]

How the hell do you draw hips?

[Anonymous No.6926317]

>>6926314
with the Reilly method

[Anonymous No.6926394]

>>6923990
fucking kek

>>6923983
It's partly because the proportions are different. Look up feminine facial proportions

>>6926036
Cool. Do you have full figure pieces?

>>6926038
>>6926225
Nice job anons. Drawing is better than not drawing. Getting in a last sketch before bed always feels like a victory against entropy.

>>6926314
I struggled with this too. What helped what studying the anatomy of the hips more and drawing it. Identifying key landmarks and focusing on seeing them during figure drawing studies/quick sketch helped me a lot.

[Anonymous No.6926399]

Made some adjustments,

>>6926031
thanks for this

[Anonymous No.6926429]

>>6923983
>>6926394
I gave it a shot anon. I'm not amazing, but I think you made the eyes too high up/hair too small (implying eyes higher up). I know it's pretty different but I hope it's helpful somehow.

[Anonymous No.6926432]

>>6923983
let me guess
wait, dont say it...
loomis

[Anonymous No.6926434]

>>6926432
if it was loomis he would have gotten it right

[Anonymous No.6926454]

>>6926429
Not bad, but it looks like Pathologic character

[Anonymous No.6926458]

>>6926454
I can see that. I think it's the way I did the eyes

[Anonymous No.6926465]

>>6926429
honestly that's dope

[Anonymous No.6926468]

>>6926394
Sketching before bed makes me not go to bed. Once I start I just can't put down the pencil, it's a total bender.

[Anonymous No.6926483]

>post here
>/beg/ ignores my art
I will not let this, I will work hard and you WILL notice me!

[Anonymous No.6926485]

>>6926483
kek

which one is yours anon? want some feedback?

[Anonymous No.6926497]

>>6926483
You should probably ask a better question. Or if you didn't ask one at all then that's a good place to start.

[Anonymous No.6926500]

>>6926485
>>6926497
to be honest the work had a lot to improve on, like clearly undeveloped areas where I could apply myself, so in retrospect its not a waste that it was ignored.

[Anonymous No.6926518]

Haven't really been posting on here because I've been focusing my Internet time on developing a workout routine, though I have been drawing. Anyways, finished the Bridgman section on shoulders and upper chest, so here's some sketches. I've been drawing much bigger which feels good. Might pic up a pack of bristol board for original drawings, so that I have a decent option to ink over for cheap at large sizes.

[Anonymous No.6926520]

>>6926518

[Anonymous No.6926521]

>>6926520

[Anonymous No.6926539]

>>6926399
looking for criticism?

[Anonymous No.6926543]

Reilly is king.

[Anonymous No.6926550]

>>6926483
Been the same for me for about three threads now. Kind of a bummer, I'd really like some pointers on how to improve.

>>6926485
If you're offering, I'm >>6925238

[Anonymous No.6926553]

>>6926539
yes please

[Anonymous No.6926556]

>>6926550
>>6925238
I think you're doing pretty well anon. What specifically have you been trying to improve or focus on in your studies? I think your feet are really fucked, do some studies and make them have less swollen kankles. I might be wrong, but your proportions seem to tend on the long side for torsos/abdomen. Rib cage seems too far from the hips, especially on the two drawings on the right.

[Anonymous No.6926563]

>>6926556
>>6926550
And a side note, I didn't even see your post in the other thread because my filters filtered out the "ADHD autistic" guy, which is linked to your post in a long chain of replies to his bait lol

[Anonymous No.6926564]

>>6926429
Thanks man, that's pretty helpful. I should pay better attention to the proportions. You did a good job of totally changing the character (in a good way) with minimal edits too.

[Anonymous No.6926565]

>>6926564
No problem anon. Just draw more and show us later

[Anonymous No.6926580]

>>6926556
>What specifically have you been trying to improve or focus on in your studies?
This one had a focus on the rib cage/torso as I struggle to consistently draw it from imagination. I also tend to make the gesture stiff when I draw from reference so that's a constant focus, as well as trying to properly display the 'depth' and form of the torso.
Not sure if I should be shading them or represent them with lines.
>feet are really fucked
kek I'm trying. Feet along with legs are the parts I still haven't really 'studied'. I'll make those a focus soon.
>proportions
I usually tend to make the limbs too short, but I'd have to look at the refs again. It's one of those things I only start to notice when I'm done drawing.

[Anonymous No.6926596]

[Anonymous No.6926628]

leisure time from what you leisure time you
LEISURE TIME HAHAHAHAHAHHAAHA GOOD JOKE
drawing all day and in the evening leisure time? no drawing all day and evening thats what

[Anonymous No.6926632]

>>6926580
>tend to make the limbs too short
I'm just a beg so take this with a grain of salt. But that sounds like a bad workflow. Once you have all your basic construction shapes laid in before you start doing any sort of detail or features, you ought to be verifying your proportions are accurate before continuing since it's a problem you've identified. If it's just sketches like this, I would just measure quickly to check, but if it's intended to be a more complete drawing, taking a step away to get fresh eyes or posting it for critique before continuing on also help.

[Anonymous No.6926657]

:)

[Anonymous No.6926662]

>>6926628
What is this schizophrenia? You just want (you)s I guess. Are you having fun? What's wrong with you anon?

[Anonymous No.6926664]

i just thought it would make for a funny post is all

[Anonymous No.6926669]

>>6926664
(You) farming is a hard line if work these days, anon, I hope you’re making ends meet.

[Anonymous No.6926705]

[Anonymous No.6926719]

>>6925847
Still life is the best baby retard drawing you can do
You don't have to deal with many complex organic shapes, it's not hard to make it look acceptable and it's surprisingly fun.

[Anonymous No.6926731]

>>6926719
This is good advice.

>>6925847
Draw something that's in the room you're in right now anon. Just grab something and draw it.

[Anonymous No.6926736]

[Anonymous No.6926742]

What would you say is the more important thing to focus on when beginning? Line control (making sure you can draw accurate straight lines, arcs, circles and ellipses while minimizing wobbly lines) or forms and shapes (how to combine forms to construct a basic formation of an object.)

[Anonymous No.6926745]

>>6926742
The absolute beginning? Observation and accuracy. >>6926719

[Anonymous No.6926766]

[Anonymous No.6926785]

Had to draw this standing up.

[Anonymous No.6926793]

>>6926766
>he bought?

>>6926785
nice

[Anonymous No.6926807]

>>6926785
lookin good anon

[Anonymous No.6926811]

>>6923784
Off-topic, but how do I into software dev? I'm 3rd year of my software engineering degree but I have nothing to show for it except a lot of theory. I only built one meme wpf project in C# and added functionality to the arduino simulator written in C++ we used last year. I have virtually no tech stack, so what do?

[Anonymous No.6926823]

>>6926793
>>6926807
Thnx guise, ur my inspiration like that song.

[Anonymous No.6926827]

>>6926811
you ask chat gpt

[Anonymous No.6926829]

I want to draw but I don't want to draw how do I fix this?

Also what causes this behavior pic rleated

[Anonymous No.6926860]

>>6926811
idk ask /g/

[Anonymous No.6926862]

>>6926829
It's a psychological issue anon. How's your stress level? How important have you made drawing to you? Is there other shit that if you took care of you would feel like you are then free to do whatever you want, aka draw?

Go read "The War of Art"

https://youtu.be/vM39qhXle4g?si=auz6OhrwmBKpMiBw
https://youtu.be/Jexb0hPtIsk?si=boNhR4FTm_cuZngw
https://youtu.be/0ifwHmYuuV0?si=pokKi0qe0O1znUpJ
https://youtu.be/-NdkRcvIyzQ?si=2S9jb3xWOReOz3J4

[Anonymous No.6926864]

>>6926811
Harvard CS50x with David Malan is a great intro to programming and CS, and it's completely free.
They give you an online editor with (automatically) graded homework and everything.

[Anonymous No.6926865]

>>6926829
>>6926862
And I'll also add, drawing is not the hard part. Sitting down and getting started is the hard part.

[Anonymous No.6926870]

>>6926865
>>6926862

[Anonymous No.6926873]

>>6926829
For me hoarding is mostly FOMO. Since all that stuff is pirated I'd rather download it now and never use it than not do it and wonder where the fuck it is in six months.

I actually use them but I probably have five times what I need.

[Anonymous No.6926876]

>>6926873
I think that's part of it. There's also a bit of "if I'm organizing my resources, then at least I'm being productive" self-deception.

[Anonymous No.6926882]

>>6926880
>>6926880
new
>>6926880
>>6926880

[Anonymous No.6926901]

>>6926811
A ton of low-tech companies have recently been trying to catch up with a higher tier competition (namely China who puts AI models into fucking everything) by increasing how much they spend on R&D, it's fairly easy to get an engineer job in a factory if only because barely anyone knows this is even an option.

The projects aren't as glamorous as deploying a SaaS webapp over kubernetes or whatever Google gets up to but you can end up doing IoT, AI, robotics and a ton of math if you play it right.

The pay sucks dick on the other hand but the job will be in some remote area where rent is dirt cheap so it usually works out.

[Anonymous No.6927109]

Where to find huge breast references that aren't run of the mill Onlyfans whores?

[Anonymous No.6927135]

did I fuck up her left elbow?

[Anonymous No.6927141]

>>6927135
>Sina
Lol. Lmao.

[Anonymous No.6927144]

>>6927141
it was an art trade >:|

[Anonymous No.6927145]

>>6927144
With Bupiti?

[Anonymous No.6927158]

>>6927145
No idea, some random with cute clay figures

[Anonymous No.6927160]

>>6927158
LMAO. That is Bupity.
Lovely guy, unabashedly perverted frog.
Godspeed with your work, anon.

[Anonymous No.6927260]

The proportions are completely off, i hate this

[Anonymous No.6927722]

>>6927260
Did you use reference or try this from imagination? I hope the latter, also you're probably just the loomis hating schizo

[Anonymous No.6927919]

>>6923516
Looking for anatomy advice. How can I make sure the head is the "right" size. I don't really have a good way understanding whether something looks right other than "guess and try to check later"

[Anonymous No.6928139]

>>6923516
Someone made a thread to draw this meme in my style, faggots didnt draw shit and deleted the thread before I could finish it