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How does one reach his level?

>> No.6912287

cutesexytobots probably didn't waste time waiting for the most perfect beginner art course before he just started drawing

>> No.6912302

>>6912284
Here’s a hint. Painting is easier than drawing.

>> No.6912304

>>6912302
This is retarded.

>> No.6912339

>>6912304
no he's right. painters know this.

>> No.6912345

>>6912284
Always give as much as you can and get back up after you fall, then continue on your journey. You can't do it alone

>> No.6912351

>>6912302
Why would painting be easier than drawing, don't you need the same skills (anatomy, perspective etc) plus more?

>> No.6912353
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6912353

late starter bros.... is there hope for us?

>> No.6912366

>>6912351
>anatomy, perspective
drawing skills

>> No.6912367

>>6912353
Always has been

>> No.6912369

>>6912366
But you needs those to be able to paint figures.

>> No.6912372

I always thought he was overrated

>> No.6912373

>>6912369
you get away with more if you paint/render, covers a lot of sins(to the undiscerningeyes of the coomer).

>> No.6912375

>>6912373
You can do that with hatching a line work on a drawing.

>> No.6912377

>>6912375
probably would take a lot of hatching... and a bit more skill hatching than airbrushing.

>> No.6912394

>>6912377
Nah, hatching is much easier than anything involving color. It's just tedious

>> No.6912401

>>6912394
airbrushing boobs/spheres to look round doesn't take as much skill as hatching a sphere to look round(and as appealing as the airbrushed)

>> No.6912402

>>6912401
Airbrushing boobs doesn't make them look good or round unless you are skilled and know what you're doing. Typical /beg/trap

>> No.6912408

>>6912284
Isn't csr actually 2 or 3 people?

>> No.6912411

>>6912402
you really gonna die on the hill that it's easier to hatch round forms than airbrush them? whatever dude.

>> No.6912413

Will never not be true

>> No.6912418
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6912418

Has anyone seen CSR's drawings?

>> No.6912419

>>6912413
what of all the rendermonkeys who try to draw and fall short of expectations?

>> No.6912423

>>6912419
Rendering takes much more skill. You can tell because those who render well don't sit around seething and coming up with pathetic terms like "rendermonkey" kek

>> No.6912429

>>6912423
I have no idea how you can make that statement on a board that regularly shits on hyper-realism and atelier xerox machines

>> No.6912434

>>6912423
ask anyone who can render well what is easier to get good looking results, drawing with line or rendering, 100% will say rendering.
maybe it seems to be a lost art somehow on ic nowadays, but 10 years ago most could render/polish turds after a short time practicing.

>> No.6912443

>>6912429
And what's the common derogatory term for those who hatch their values?
>>6912434
People will just pick whatever their preference is, or if they're bitter like this board they'll say whatever they don't do must be easier

>> No.6912444

>>6912443
do you draw? what is your experience level with drawing and with rendering?

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>>6912443
>And what's the common derogatory term for those who hatch their values?
There is none because drawing is the honesty of Art. This isn't simply an /ic/ thing, it goes way back to the renaissance.
>Michelangelo critiqued Titian’s famous mythological painting Danae saying it was good but would be better only if he learned to draw.

>> No.6912448

>>6912446
I rest my case

>> No.6912452

>>6912448
translation:
>I concede

>> No.6912454

>>6912452
That's not what I rest my case means

>> No.6912459

>>6912454
"rest my case" was just cope.

>> No.6912461

>>6912459
Ironic

>> No.6912469

>>6912461
go ahead, make an argument for rendering being harder than draftsmanship.
all you've said so far is "rendering takes more skill" "hatching is much easier" not very convincing.

>> No.6912470

>>6912469
No one said anything about draftsmanship. We're talking strictly about methods of controlling values

>> No.6912474

>>6912470
buy you replied to >>6912419 with >>6912423
>what of all the rendermonkeys who try to draw and fall short of expectations?
with
>Rendering takes much more skill.

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6912477

Really strong Dunning-Kruger vibes in this thread, so let's just close it up:
>>6912284
>How does one reach his level?
Deliberate practice, as already said hundreds of times on this board.
CAPTCHA: MMYWAY

>> No.6912480

>>6912477
>MUH FREDDIE KRUEGER

>> No.6912483

>>6912477
Ironic

>> No.6912492
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6912492

5minutes.

>> No.6912496

>>6912302
This, you can make a lot more mistakes and the picture will still turn out fine. Plus his style doesn't require much accuracy.

>> No.6912498

>people without a fraction of his skill talking about how easy it is
kek

>> No.6912499

>>6912498
Faggot.
I was able to get 1k patrons but copying his bullshit style

>> No.6912500

>>6912284
Just imagine the drawings uncolored he clearly knows what he’s drawing

>>6912492
Ugly

>> No.6912501

>>6912499
I’ve actually seen a lot of copycats, one has like 500k follows and makes good $ on patreon, but his anatomy is a lot worse. Doesn’t matter to average coomer but you can tell.

>> No.6912502

>>6912500
sure, it was a quick demonstration of how easy it is to show form with rendering. pyw

>> No.6912504

>>6912498
hol up, I wasn't commenting on robutts! seriously, I admire his work. there is another anon itt who started the whole rendering business, I was just in agreement that rendering is easier than drawing(which robutts is quite competent in)

>> No.6912505

>>6912502
I don’t need to post my work to see it looks like shit compared to CSR

>> No.6912532

>>6912287
Real

>> No.6912549 [DELETED] 

>>6912505
I suspect you are only being reactionary to a perceived, (but not actual) insult to butts. It's not meant to be compared to butts, it just happens to be a boob because that was mentioned itt. is something particularly wrong with the rendering? (aside from being weightless, but that's a drawing issue...) what would make it not "ugly"?

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>>6912505
you are right anon, it's too plastic or metallic.

>> No.6912590

>>6912418
his art is still drawn, even in OP you can see lines

>> No.6914706

>>6912304
painting is largely the end goal of the rendering process, a lot of mistakes in the drawing can be fixed/hidden depending on rendering, its why you see polished turds where the rendering is fucking amazing but something is wrong and it hard to put your finger on it.

>>6912284
use minimal layers, dont layer at all if you don't have to. this alone makes works look far better than before.

>> No.6914751

>>6912284
The real secret is that he was a 27 year old man so he had the money to hire an actual mentor
Subpar Group learning has been proven to be substantially more beneficial than even optimal solo learning.

>> No.6914769

>>6912498
he's garbage. only wows hopeless porn addicts and the social media sick

>> No.6914776

>>6912284
He's the Michaelangelo of our era. Some people are just gifted with amazing talent and aptitude.

>> No.6914778

He's better than ic gives him credit for. To reach his level, draw everything he did, look at his deviant art history.

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>>6914778
He's very good, but he didn't started from zero like stated.

This this a 2017 drawing, one of his oldest in DA.
This isn't /beg/ level.

>> No.6915567

>>6915562
I think he would be called a beg renderfag

>> No.6915599

>>6912284
Wasn't there a camgirl a decade ago with that name? I remember her being a shortstack redhead

>> No.6915602

>>6915562
well yeah, he started drawing around summer 2015

>> No.6915604
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6915604

Painting is literally impossible. There are too many brushes. Too many techniques. Do I use a solid color 100% opacity brush and 'sculpt' away at it? I want to do more blending/messy looking painting? Someone give me THE painting brush right now.

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>>6915562
>This isn't /beg/ level.

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>>6915604

>> No.6915839

>>6915604
Pressure opacity round brush. Everything else is for added flavor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xc0t5n82DaU&t=667s

>> No.6915901

>>6915611
High beg maybe, but this isn't the type of drawing that a zero hour beg is doing. He has notions of anatomy and rendering at least.

If like >>6915602 said, that's the result of 2 years of practice, which can be deemed reasonable.

>> No.6915933

>>6912492
over processed ham

>> No.6915935

>>6915933
Now I'm hungry...

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>>6912284
He drew.

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>>6915901
>>6915562

>> No.6916834

Mic drop jaw drop