/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.6908795]

/mmg/ - MANGA Making General Anonymous 10/24/23(Tue)19:38:05 No.6904557▶>>6904567 >>6904573 >>6904583 >>6908726
The general thread for Manga / manga-styled comic-making, manga-style illustration and related sequential work. Western-style comics and illustrations are not the focus of these threads, and should be posted to either /hyw/ in /co/, or other western-related com/ic/ threads.

Support each other and talk about your work or the work of others that excites you. Inking, character design, paneling / layout, writing, planning, and other discussions are all welcome.
Post resources, questions, in-progress pages, breakdowns of other works, etc. If a work is not yours, credit the maker (unless it's fucking obvious like a full page of One Piece or something).
Thanks to everyone for making /mmg/ a level-headed and helpful place. Remember, drawing and making sequential art are difficult endeavors, and we're all in this struggle together.

Previous thread: >>6896992

Some resources:
/asg/, our stylistic sister-thread series for those focused more on illustration >>>/ic/asg

Books:
Manga in Theory and Practice: The Craft of Creating Manga
https://mega.nz/folder/Dd4hnZTC#EjMIcTDPLbWXkAJLPHx2Kg
Story: Substance, Structure, Style and the Principles of Screenwriting
https://archive.org/details/RobertMcKeeStorypdf/
Even a Monkey Can Draw Manga
https://kupdf.net/download/even-a-monkey-can-draw-manga_58b9ca16e12e89233badd376_pdf
The Shonen Jump Guide to Making Manga
https://mega.nz/file/i81imLpI#GcheJ9Jjk3lw1RE9nQWgL4RG4wEBNOcRmgA-iaU6Wpg

Videos:
"Manga Senpai/Tokyo Name Tank", "SMAC! THE SILENT MANGA AUDITION COMMUNITY"
Habanero Scans: https://www.dailymotion.com/HabaneroScans/videos
Full MANBEN Series link: https://mega.nz/folder/YQYAGJTR#1PAs3gRYTMoerPapIZTXGg
https://www.naokiurasawa.com/
Urasawa Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkIFOAoFm47XOAlJwTa6Ieg/videos

[Anonymous No.6908798]

Some western/indie publishers of manga-comics:

Saturday AM ( https://www.saturday-am.com/ )
> Digital indie magazine, seems to be on the up-and-up
> Open submissions for long-form series; also distributes series currently being published elsewhere.
> Regularly publishes one-shots, making it a good potential outlet for already-finished work.

Noir Caesar ( https://www.noircaesar.com/ )
> Focuses on black (specifically African-American) content, but seems willing to publish anyone good enough.
> Seemingly series-based only.
> No "magazine" style updates; series are updated on their own schedule.
> Seems less regular than Saturday AM, but also seems larger in terms of readership.

Oni Press ( https://onipress.com/ )
> Technically indie, but at this point large enough by comic standards to be mentioned in the same breath as other publishers.

Antarctic Press ( https://antarctic-press.myshopify.com/ )
> Longtime large-indie publisher of OEL / manga-esque books.
> Seemingly taking submissions at present if http://www.antarctic-press.com/html/submissions.php is anything to go on.

Yen Press ( https://yenpress.com/ )
> Started out as a small indie publisher of original / Korean material, and has grown reasonably popular since.
> As of 2016, it is also one of the western arms of the Kadokawa Corporation, with Kadokawa owning a 51% stake.
> Editorial inquiries can apparently be sent to [e-mail], however, they apparently are not open to new submissions at this time.

Viz Media / Viz Originals ( https://www.viz.com/originals )
> *The* western manga publisher.
> Currently in the exploratory stages of setting up an English label.
> Submissions are open and several books have been announced. However, progress on the label seems to be moving very slowly.
> Still might be worth a shot anyway.

Shrine Comics ( https://shrinecomics.com/ )
> Small indie manga publisher
> Seemingly attempting to make the transition to physical volumes
> Allows crossposting to other sites

[Anonymous No.6908801]

Current Contests:

Zenon Magazine:
https://comic-zenon.com/article/entry/2023/05/09/132801

Silent Manga Audition: https://www.manga-audition.com/sma20-memorable-smile/

Magic international manga contest: https://www.shibuya-productions.com/en/magic/magic-international-manga-contest.html,73

4-koma Contest:
https://kitakyushu-mangataisho.com/en/

/mmg/'s very own anon-led anthology: /ic/onography
https://discord.gg/QYnFBves7V
https://forms.gle/d3a2Cwwd44sJYyqv9

Additional community added Resources:
Mangafonts: https://mangafonts.carrd.co/
Hiro Mashima YT: https://www.youtube.com/@mashimaCh/videos

How (You) can help /mmg/:

> Know about a contest or a publishing opportunity? TAG THE OP and post a link.
> Have a new resource? TAG THE OP and link / mention it for inclusion.
> Have a link / DL for a mentioned resource? TAG THE OP and mention what you're supplying a link for.
> SCREENSHOT / PASTEBIN effortposts that help you for posterity.
>Remind western-comic posters to post in western-comic focused threads.

[Anonymous No.6908808]

Add these to the resources:

Sound effects/Japanese onomatopoeia:

Comprehensive dictionary of sounds: http://thejadednetwork.com/sfx/

How to use:
https://www.japanpowered.com/anime-articles/manga-sound-effect-guide

Onomatopoeia for Manga Artists (pdf):
https://sh0rturl (DOT) at/enotR

(replace 0 with o, replace (DOT) with . )

[Anonymous No.6908816]

Some one make the proper thread that doesn't include the schizo, thanks.

[Anonymous No.6908818]

Sequential art is sequential art, there aren't enough ppl doing it in here to warrant 10 /gens for each genre. the thread is already slow as it is.
This thread just got recently hijacked by a severely mentally ill dingus that stole the original thread headers and then proceeded to deceptively change them without consulting anyone, and that alone would've warranted a permaban in here if jannies were more careful.

Secondly no one knows who this dingus is and has never posted any work in here prior, an actual tourist, and those usually only last a thread before they fuck off.
Not gonna lie this kid is one of the most virulently autistic individuals we've ever had so far.
/mmg has been on here for quite some years now evolving over time to include everything sequential.

As for captain retardo, nobody wants you here, you will never be respected. The whole thread is just taking a piss at you, you will never be more than a fucking joke. Your own art skills aren't even on the level to warrant any fucking authority anywhere...like are you dumb bro?
Go open your own discord and put whatever rules you want in it. Whatever you're trying to pull in here won't work and that’s why nobody’s posting anything you ruined this thread and will be eventually thrown out of here.

So if any mods read this can plz ban this troll, and whoever was in charge of creating new /mmg threads just do your thing the same way it's been done, and if it ever warrants a change, it will be by committee and not a the whim of severely maladjusted individual.

[Anonymous No.6908844]

Are there any good speedline tutorials?
How do you know where to group them, how to space them, and all that?

[Anonymous No.6908916]

The cat head thing is true if you draw a head while thinking of cat proportions it will look like manga.

[Anonymous No.6908930]

why is there 2 manga making generals up? you bakas.

[Anonymous No.6908936]

>>6908930
Because comicsfags demand to share our space.
They hate the fact that they lost to manga in the cultural popularity war.
Nice manga btw.

[Anonymous No.6908941]

>>6908930
I want to read her manga

[Anonymous No.6908947]

I still think all things comic /atc/ would be a good name for a separate general to this one.

[Anonymous No.6908951]

>>6908947
just make sure to point mangafags to manga general just as much as that one guy does here

[Anonymous No.6908964]

>>6908947
>I still think all things comic /atc/ would be a good name for a separate general to this one.
not a bad idea. there is already a regular webcomic thread on /co/ as well, /hyw/

[Anonymous No.6909018]

Good manga tutorial channels:

https://www.youtube.com/@aphlearntodrawmanga

https://www.youtube.com/@DoKiDoKiDrawing

https://www.youtube.com/@mangamaterialsyoutube9454

https://www.youtube.com/@smac-thesilentmangaauditio3749

https://www.youtube.com/@MonitorComics


Watch the pros draw:

https://www.youtube.com/@akihitoyoshitomi3758

https://www.youtube.com/@mashimaCh

https://www.youtube.com/@mierihiranishi

[Anonymous No.6909090]

Komawari = panel flow

Skilled artists can evoke a sense of flow in seemingly simple panels.
Here we see some cats staring at a nuclear explosion.
The *flash* sound effect in the top panel starts off and then leads you into the face of the closer cat, who appears bigger as he is more forward in the shot.
The second *flash* sound effect, being contrasted against a black background, pulls you downwards while the triangular shadow shape on the cat also pushes your eye towards it's face, and then onto the smaller cat.
Now this same same cat's head appearing larger pulls you toward the bottom and final panel of the page.

tl;dr - the cat heads and SFX both have separate compositions that both guide you in the same direction across the page


Sauce:
Nyaight of the Living Cat by Mecha-Roots(aka Tsurukame)

[Anonymous No.6909097]

>>6908795
Whichever anon drew this is gmi

[Anonymous No.6909104]

>>6909090

[Anonymous No.6909109]

>>6909097
That's My Hero Academia by Kohei Horikoshi.
Fun fact - that manga that was inspired by western superhero comics.

[Anonymous No.6909127]

>>6909104
I can circle shit in any comic, it doesn't mean anything.

[Anonymous No.6909134]

Common terms used by mangaka, as explained in this video -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vI1MW2hQ4BI


断ち切り (tachi kiri)
内ワク (uchi waku)
基本ワク (kihon waku)
ノド (nodo)
効果線 (kouka sen)
描き文字 (kaki moji)
吹き出し (fukidashi)
コマ割り (koma wari)
背景 (haikei)
べた塗り (beta nuri)
セリフ (serifu)

[Anonymous No.6909136]

>>6909090
why would the sfx have a different composition than the rest of the picture? they obviously just read right to left with the rest of the picture... the paneling is as straightforward as paneling can be what point are you making???? Why do you keep spamming your own thread?

[Anonymous No.6909137]

>>6908964
>/hyw/
second worst art general on this site, rather post with ic mind people than a permabeg general that cant stop fighing over nothing.

[Anonymous No.6909139]

>>6909136
>why would the sfx have a different composition than the rest of the picture?
It's not a different composition than the rest of the picture, it's 2 compositions within the picture. The cat heads have a composition and the SFX have their own and they both follow the same direction on the page.
And nobody is spamming, so stop trolling the thread and trying to start drama.

[Anonymous No.6909144]

>>6909139
It doesn't make sense since usually the sfx help guide the read of the page IN COMBINATION WITH THE ARTWORK NOT SEPERATELY, why would they have their own separate composition? You ever open a page and read only the sfx without looking at the rest of the picture?
It doesn't make sense, you are putting out faulty made up information, and you sir, should be ashamed of yourself. You are insulting the language of manga, and I won't stand for it.

[Anonymous No.6909151]

>>6909144
>IN COMBINATION WITH THE ARTWORK NOT SEPERATELY
Yes, I know.

>why would they have their own separate composition?
Why wouldn't o couldn't they? Everything on a page has a purpose. And layering multiple compositions in a single image isn't exactly unheard of, it's an advanced technique used through a large portion of art history.

>you are putting out faulty made up information
I'm not, all of this is basic and verifiable information, but I see you're trying to troll me so I'm not engaging with you anymore.

[Anonymous No.6909155]

>nice! a sweet .pdf explaining various eye-guiding techniques for manga!
>it's actually a scientific paper on how to teach AI to draw manga

Uh oh...

https://ying-cao.com/projects/manga_composition/files/composition_paper.pdf

[Anonymous No.6909183]

>>6909151
You are literally putting out made up information and trying to justify it with vagueries.
>advanced technique used through a large portion of art history.
What the fuck is that even supposed to mean?
You're trying to overcomplicate the simplest 3 panel I've ever seen. You obviously don't know what you're talking about and do not understand manga.

[Anonymous No.6909193]

Layered composition is an advanced application of basic fundamental techniques.
You learn this very early in art school.

[Anonymous No.6909196]

An even better example here.

[Anonymous No.6909201]

>>6909090
>>6909134
Don't explain japanese concepts to eops. They're eops for a reason

[Anonymous No.6909203]

>>6909193
>>6909196
wtf are these retarded over complicated bs lines?

You got like a hand full of comps and other shit
>golden ratio (figure it out)
>1 point perspective
>triangle
>C
>T
>L
>O
>anything thing as long as you use chiaroscuro
>Hogarth's line of beauty: aka "S"

that's pretty much it (obviously there's more to it) but I hate when people try to over complicate art, shit is already hard enough.
>You learn this very early in art school.
Yeah no shit, but art school is a fucking joke. All I learned was from books from the 20's and 40's.

[Anonymous No.6909211]

>>6909203
>over complicate
Breaking down and analyzing them is how you understand things. If all you see is "a page with a bunch of cats on it" that sounds like a skill issue (much as I hate to use that word) unironically.

>art school is a fucking joke. All I learned was-
I don't believe you went to art school at all.

Making manga, making art requires skill, the skill to utilize fundamental techniques effectively to get across whatever point you're trying to make with your art.
It is hard, but it's also easy once you understand the mechanics and the process, and to do that you have to analyze it first.

[Anonymous No.6909212]

>>6909201
What's eops???

[Anonymous No.6909216]

>>6909201
It's there for any aspiring manga artists who might be looking for it in earnest.

>>6909212
English Only Persons.

[Anonymous No.6909217]

>>6909193
>>6909196
That has nothing to do with your made up claim of sfx having an indepedent composition. U're deflecting in extremely bad faith here...

[Anonymous No.6909220]

>>6909217
Yes it does. You argued that multiple compositions in an image doesn't exist. I said it does and it's been used throughout a large part of art history. You said I was making it up, I posted paintings proving I wasn't.
You are trolling (pretending to be obtuse is trolling) so this conversation is over. Good day.

[Anonymous No.6909301]

[Anonymous No.6909355]

Starting on a prototype of one of the ideas playing in my head for years. Dunno if I should go full comic/manga or try out webtoons.
Should I write down my script first? Total newbie when it comes to making sequential art here.

>>6909018
Thanks for the resources.

[Anonymous No.6909362]

>>6909355
In my opinion yes have the script at least mostly done first so you aren't drawing purposelessly, if that makes any sense. It's easier to change a few lines of words than it is to redraw several pages because you got a new better idea all of a sudden.

[Anonymous No.6909426]

1/4

[Anonymous No.6909427]

>>6909426
2/4

[Anonymous No.6909429]

>>6909427
3/4

[Anonymous No.6909430]

I will try to make 30 page hentai doujinshi that I'll never post as practice

[Anonymous No.6909432]

>>6909429
4/4

[Anonymous No.6909449]

>>6909355
Need to see this fujo slut get it by one or all of those uggos
Any more?

[Anonymous No.6909819]

https://medibangpaint.com/en/use_tag/tutorial/

[Anonymous No.6909840]

Some general tutorial websites -

https://www.too.com/manga/en/
^best one imo, very comprehensive

https://www.japanese-manga-artist.com
------

How to publish in Japan -

https://tankenjapan.com/can-anyone-become-a-manga-artist-in-japan/

https://mangascout.com/non-japanese-mangaka/
------

Google article on how/why manga is unique -

https://artsandculture.google.com/story/10-reasons-japanese-manga-is-unique-ministry-of-economy-trade-and-industry-meti/NAVh3Wy6pV-DdA?hl=en
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(pic- Houshi-iin no Oshigoto by Inoue Kiyoshirou)

[Anonymous No.6909844]

>yeah man I went to art school it was a scam!
>composition is an "overcomplicated" concept to him

fucking lol
either you really did get scammed or you didn't go to art school at all
pyw

[Anonymous No.6909954]

>>6909220
Again you keep being dishonest trying to feign knowledge you don't have complicating concepts you don't understand, just as dishonest as hijacking a general by changing the thread headers without consulting anyone, why are you like this? And why are you spamming links without addressing your misdeeds, you just reporting replies you don't like and getting them deleted (are you a janny here? do you have access to jannies?).
It's common fucking decency and you keep showing everybody here that you have none.
Also are you Fred from /hyw? And if true care to explain why you got banned from /co?

[Anonymous No.6909971]

>>6909362
Man. I guess it'll take a lot more than just flying by the seat of my pants and hoping for the best. I've been drawing for sometime but this will be the first time I will definitely try making a prototype first chapter of sort. I already have several characters in mind as well as side characters too, but making up dialogue, then drawing and not to mention delivering and executing the comedy I've hand in mind does seem daunting in all honesty. Not that it'll stop me though.

>>6909449
I do have more concept art of her and her classmates. Most of which are sketches that is.

[Anonymous No.6909975]

>>6909971
If you do something like a one(page)-a-day you could possibly get by with meandering narratively but it really comes down to what kind of story you want to tell.
Dialogue is the hardest part of this whole thing imo, but some people are better at it than others same with drawing and anything else really.
>Not that it'll stop me though.
Based. Do you have any broad details you care to share about the project? Or is it still in early early development?

>I do have more concept art of her and her classmates.
Her design is nice would love to see more.

[Anonymous No.6910015]

Anyone make comics in Procreate? I don't want to subscribe to CSP.

[Anonymous No.6910022]

>>6910015
Try these threads
>>6908874
>>6902920
>>6898017
>>6885220

[Anonymous No.6910070]

>>6910022
>try these unrelated threads instead of the one dedicated to making comics

[Anonymous No.6910073]

>>6910070
>the one dedicated to making comics
The first one >>6908874
This isn't the comics thread. It's the manga thread. The difference debate was already settled so don't try to stir up old drama.
The other ones would be likely to have people who could better answer your question so I linked those as well.

[Anonymous No.6910086]

>>6910073
That thread is for posting western comics, not making comics.
>The difference debate was already settle
By who? I'm not a retarded weeb so I use the terms interchangeably. And I never said I want to make a western style comic in the first place.

[Anonymous No.6910108]

>>6910086
>That thread is for posting western comics, not making comics.
And some people there might know about making comics, since it is a comics thread.
The "manga vs comic" debate has long been settled, even as recently again as few days ago by very credible people.

>And I never said I want to make a western style comic in the first place.
You asked about comics. >>6910015
Since you are attempting to troll I will no longer engage with you. Post manga and stop trying to derail the thread with off-topic posts. Good day.

[Anonymous No.6910110]

>>6910015
Sorry for the confusion, the OP of this thread has been schizoing out in /mmg/ for weeks and has hijacked two OPs. You can ask in >>6908824 if you want a more level-headed interaction

[Anonymous No.6910120]

>>6910108
The guy asked an honest question...
You keep saying to people not to troll while dodging allegations of ban evasion and manipulating the board by creating several dogshit threads to help you in your dishonesty, you also keep saying that the debate has been settled but I have yet to see another person agreeing with you...
People aren't mad because of comics vs manga, ppl are mad because you're a liar and a cheat, it's very different... but most of all because you obviously understand very little about making manga...
Come clean fred

[Anonymous No.6910405]

Do you guys put characters from other manga in your work?

[Anonymous No.6910482]

looking for hi-res speech bubbles

[Anonymous No.6910691]

>>6909975
>Dialogue is the hardest part of this whole thing imo.
Ugh. This made me want to stay in a library for a whole week and write shit while also drawing with zero distraction just so I can express the ideas I have in mind.
>but it really comes down to what kind of story you want to tell.
>Do you have any broad details you care to share about the project?
I kind of like to write a comedy in the similar vein of Cromartie + Prison school with some tiny bit of seriousness at the later chapters. I also kind of like to keep it short with an open ending so I can back at it again once I felt like it and all you know.
As for the broad story. Kaname, a huge fujo girl, got overexcited when she heard the all male prestigious school that is supposed to be known for its ikemen/bishounen students are now accepting female students too. She's so excited that she moved in to her older sister's dorm and just enrolled straight away, fantasizing about living the shojo/fujo fantasies she had in her head.
To her extreme disappointment, her first day ends up with her seeing her class full of 30+, old looking, ugly male students - and all are eyeing her desperately, seeing that she is the only female in class - and a very hot one at that specially seeing how she prepared her best look. Pervy hijinks ensues for the day and once she is going home that afterclass, she saw other girl students coming in campus - along with all the other handsome ikemen/dark triad billionaires/handsome vampire students too. Only then did she realized that the school has two classes, day class where all the 'normal/ugly' male students attend, and night class where all the hunky shojo/josei/diabolik lover type of male student attend. All the other girls stated they want to be at night class, but since Kaname didnt state in her application form which class she'll attend, the school body throws her to day class because she didnt state which class she'll attend and day classes has no female students.

[Anonymous No.6910694]

>>6909975
>Her design is nice would love to see more.
I've already drawn Kaname and her older sister but I have yet to decide what her older sister's role will be. I am also planning to add a shit-head little sister too that will complicate her life as well as draw more ugly AND handsome students for Night class. Its the reason why I am also reading through Rose of Verseilis or any other shojo manga/VN/etc I can get my hands just so I can get some design and story notes I can parody, not to mention parodying all the ugly bastard/ntr hentais and the silly tropes I've read so far eventhough the manga would most likely not be full blown hentai but heavy in salacious ecchi similar to Prison school.

[Anonymous No.6910822]

>>6910694
>>6910691
>>6909975
Anyway. One more character sheet and I am gone for today.
Anyway,

[Anonymous No.6910826]

>>6910691
>a comedy in the similar vein of Cromartie + Prison school
Already kek both are great.
That plot sounds like a nice setup too.

>>6910694
Hot.
I really like that she's built like a 80s/90s anime girl.

>>6910822
Keep up the good work anon looking forward to your manga.

[Anonymous No.6911078]

gaijin cannot make manga

[Anonymous No.6911081]

How did this literal schizo take over an entire legacy general thread overnight

The nigger can't even draw

[Anonymous No.6911084]

>>6911081
Because people got too wrapped up in arguing like always and allowed him to take over. he's never even posted his work but gatekeeps others. It's weird. Anyway, here's the real thread without the schizo autist: >>6908824

[Anonymous No.6911105]

>>6911084
>he's never even posted his work
That's a lie.

>>6909426
>>6909427
>>6909429
>>6909432

[Anonymous No.6911125]

>>6911105
not manga

[Anonymous No.6911148]

>>6911125
Yes it is. Follows the manga format, has Japanese characters, and even uses Japanese SFX. That is manga.

[Anonymous No.6911156]

>>6911148
You're not Japanese, so it will never be real manga

[Anonymous No.6911165]

>>6911156
Non-Japanese people can draw Japanese manga. There have been several examples for years now, and there are even American artists on twitter currently publishing manga in Japan.
There's even a western foreigner in these manga threads who works with a Japanese editor making manga so your argument is invalid.

[Anonymous No.6911168]

heres a halloween wanna be manga page. its sort of about halloween at least.

[Anonymous No.6911185]

>>6911168
I see an attempt of style, and you did call it "wanna be" beforehand so I will not hound you with a "not manga" response.
Nice energy overall, and I did get a laugh from it.

>KLUNK KLUNK
kek

[Anonymous No.6911191]

>>6911185
remember, the guys trying to tell you what is and what is not "real" manga draw like this...

[Anonymous No.6911196]

>>6911165
It will never be real, pure Japanese manga because you will never be Japanese. Your scribbles will only be "manga-inspired" and your skin will always remain brown.

[Anonymous No.6911202]

Mangabros YOU CAN DO IT.
You CAN draw MANGA.
You DON'T have to be Japanese.
Do NOT let the crabs derail you.
Strive, push yourself and hone your skills!
You were given the gift of artistic skill for a reason, manga, comics, cartoons, strips, whatever.
People forget that artists die from overwork in this industry, all to bring us the whimsical pictures and stories we love so much.
This isn't the Ninja-Turtle shirt wearing manbaby eating BK in his mom's basement, mangaka are among, if not the most suicidally devoted creators in the world which is why they can produce such unique and quality content that resonates with people worldwide.

[Anonymous No.6911204]

>>6911191
okay? that looks like (american) manga to me
is there any more?

[Anonymous No.6911220]

I'd rather listen to this based weeb >>6911202 than this crab >>6911196

[Anonymous No.6911273]

I finally finished drawing 8 Pages for a manga contest. Thanks for the anons that gave me advice a few threads ago!

[Anonymous No.6911277]

>>6911273
This looks fucking fantastic anon. Excellent work. I hope you do/did well in the contest.

[Anonymous No.6911387]

>>6911220
NGMIs gotta stick together

[Anonymous No.6911398]

>>6911387
So that's why you made the other thread, you know, the one full of non-manga posters?

[Anonymous No.6911410]

>>6911202
you're right, i'm korean lmao

which makes this argument even more inane.

[Anonymous No.6911427]

>>6911273
I remember your stuff from a couple of mmgs back, this thread is from some schizo making shit up. the old /mmg where you got your pointers is here >>6908824

>>6911398
Fred, stop pretending other people created a completely new thread when nobody was aware of you until last week. You're still lying and refusing to acknowledge your deception that's why all you're doing is spamming random links to bump a dying thread nobody wants to post in. This thread will always be known as the thread of a delusional scumbag.

[Anonymous No.6911440]

>>6911427
this thread has actual manga content so it's the right one

[Anonymous No.6911443]

>>6911398
you can't talk about making it when you're still drawing like this...

[Anonymous No.6911476]

I consider Yuusuke Murata one of the most technically skilled mangaka of all time. Who are some mangaka that you look up to?


>>6911443
That's not even me, and I don't know who this Fred person is.
And I don't condone shitting on anybody's skill level or lack of because that's counterproductive crab behavior that doesn't help anybody make manga.
This thread has more manga resource material than the other one full of non-manga comic posers who just want to use the manga name. They don't care about making manga, they care about marketizing the namesake just so they can sell stuff to people who aren't even looking for it.
It's dishonest and borderline unethical.

[Anonymous No.6911511]

>>6911476
>full of non-manga comic posers who just want to use the manga name
such as yourself

[Anonymous No.6911523]

>>6911476
Lil'pup hijacked a whole general just to end up talking to himself, just get a blog u idiot...imagine being this pathetic...

[Anonymous No.6911527]

>>6911523
Who is lil pup? A new zoomer rapper?

[Anonymous No.6911672]

>>6911476
Makoto Yukimura

[Anonymous No.6912246]

>>6911672
>zombies in Vinland Saga
???
I thought this was one of those not!fiction manga?

[Anonymous No.6912294]

>>6912246
It's a visual metaphor for souls of the damned

[Anonymous No.6912312]

Ben Dunn

[Anonymous No.6912320]

>>6912312
This is a western comic emulating manga character style.
Ninja High School was fun but it's not manga.

[Anonymous No.6912322]

>>6912320
Adam Warren

[Anonymous No.6912323]

>>6912320
wrong

[Anonymous No.6912325]

>>6912322
Wrong format to be manga. Just because the characters mimic visual elements of manga doesn't suddenlt turn a western graphic novel into a manga.

>>6912323
So? Being ethnically Asian doesn't make your western graphic novel a manga either. Not knocking the man's work he's one of the few western artists I respect.

[Anonymous No.6912328]

>>6912325
b-but my asian genes

[Anonymous No.6912342]

Small question. For personal reasons I plan to train up drawing traditionally rather than digitally. Once I get to a certain point of skill I'd like to do an analog to digital manga process where things like storyboarding, drafting, and inking are done traditionally with pen and pencil and then the manuscript is scanned for tone, typeset, and any needed corrections. I plan to get a lightbox for the traditional parts so I wonder exactly how that works. I plan to use Deleter Comic Paper with the rulers and guides for the manuscript but I have to wonder how am I to use a light box? Do I put the draft paper down onto the light box and then overlay the comic paper over the drafts, turn on the light box, and then start inking?

[Anonymous No.6912349]

>>6912342
>Do I put the draft paper down onto the light box and then overlay the comic paper over the drafts, turn on the light box, and then start inking?
Yes that is exactly how you use it.

[Anonymous No.6912350]

>>6912349
Great, thank you very much.

[Anonymous No.6912424]

>>6912342
You could do that but lightboxes are usually used in the penciling stages to transfer old drafts into a new paper, then you ink over your final pencils directly.
you are in the schizo mmg, try asking that in the real /mmg you might find more experienced people in there >>6908824

>>6912349
plz fred stop spreading misinformation.

[Anonymous No.6912432]

>>6912424
How is that misinformation?
That's exactly what a lightbox is for. You're trolling and starting drama for no reason.

[Anonymous No.6912435]

>>6912424
>more experienced people
You mean the one guy who actually makes manga with a Japanese editor, but seems to think manga and comics aren't different, despite the fact he clearly knows and proved that they are?

I would avoid such disingenuous hypocrites honestly. Even if they do draw. Decent art doesn't make a good person.

[Anonymous No.6912455]

>>6912432
>>6912435
You keep lying and providing false information, the other thread has more experienced artists while you're just a shitter playing pretend, plz seek help fred.

[Anonymous No.6912468]

>>6912455
>You keep lying and providing false information
That's what you do- saying that manga and comics are the same thing.
You destroyed your own argument because you were spreading disinformation.
Post manga related material or go away, stop trying to derail the threads.

[Anonymous No.6912482]

>>6912435
>I would avoid such disingenuous hypocrites honestly

you stole a whole general thread just to keep spamming links and random manga pictures and acted like nothing happened, stop projecting so hard you weirdo...

[Anonymous No.6912511]

>>6912482
They stole a thread just to post off-topic stuff in it.
There are at least more helpful resources here.

[Anonymous No.6912552]

>>6912511
No one's gonna treat you seriously when you don't even post your work. If you're a newfag who joins a club, you don't just suddenly get to decide how everything is run when you don't even take part in the club activities. You remind me of Haraguro from Genshiken now that I think of it.

[Anonymous No.6912556]

>>6912552
I posted a submission for a manga contest.

[Anonymous No.6912559]

>>6912556
Like Bill Hicks said: "You're not a human being until you're in my phone book."
If it's not on /mmg/, I don't care.

[Anonymous No.6912563]

>>6912559
It's on mmg and I've posted a more recent draft.

[Anonymous No.6912566]

>>6912511
You keep deflecting and projecting, ppl don't support this thread because you're so far gone mentally they're are starting to wonder if this is practical joke.
I myself don't think you would be able to have a computer and an internet access being this self-unaware.
This whole thing has been truly insane. Like /mmg has been around for years...never has there been an autist at your level...and I think that about all the generals...none of them have been changed by a single person out of the blue... shit's crazy...you really, really need to take your meds son...

[Anonymous No.6912600]

Ever notice how physical manga is always printed on off-white gray or brown paper while digital manga (and digital books in general) are always black on pure white background? The light tone on the paper definitely affects the contrast but it seems digital versions never really account for that. I understand that the manga is originally drawn on white paper but no paper is as white as the white from a computer screen and no black ink is as black as the black from a computer screen.

[Anonymous No.6912605]

>>6912600
>Ever notice how physical manga is always printed on off-white gray or brown paper while digital manga (and digital books in general) are always black on pure white background?
Yeah always thought that was weird. But used to it now. Some digital manga release on a grey/off-white backdrop too.

The author of pic related (Getsuyoubi no Tawawa) publishes manga monochrome blue. A lot of the pages are very hard to look at because of it though.

[Anonymous No.6912630]

>>6912322
His style and paneling reminds me ghost in the shell. At least this thread served for me to find this guy. Do you know more?

[Anonymous No.6912660]

>>6909954
>>6910120
>>6911427
>>6912424
>>6912455
I'm getting curious about this Fred guy, why is he famous on /hyw/?
t. not OP

[Anonymous No.6912664]

>>6912630
It was definitely inspired by GITS
>know any more?
Try here they would know
>>6908874

[Anonymous No.6912668]

>>6912660
rundownfaggotry is cancer

[None !!2tSyJVTaN/p No.6913230]

[None !!2tSyJVTaN/p No.6913232]

>>6913230

[None !!2tSyJVTaN/p No.6913233]

>>6913232

[None !!2tSyJVTaN/p No.6913234]

>>6913233

[Anonymous No.6913236]

Gotten some time to draw the little sister. Just pasted her next to her sisters for height reference and I've plans to redraw her proper.

>>6910826
Thanks. I am indeed going for an 80's/90's look on the girls because I like it but also to differentiate them from the other girls I plan to draw, many of whom would look like Josei/Shojou heroines.

[None !!2tSyJVTaN/p No.6913238]

>>6913234

[None !!2tSyJVTaN/p No.6913242]

>>6913238

[None !!2tSyJVTaN/p No.6913250]

>>6913236
>I am indeed going for an 80's/90's look on the girls because I like it
Based
>but also to differentiate them from the other girls I plan to draw
I had this same idea once too. Nice to see it's not that uncommon, it's a great idea imo.
My story was gonna be about MMA magical girls that turn into Sailor Moon types with even more 90s flair when they power up.
What's fujosister role in your story? lol

[Anonymous No.6913302]

>>6913238
>>6913242
Do your 月語 reps or stick to English

[Anonymous No.6913308]

>>6913302
DeepL is shit, it says exactly what it's supposed to.

[Anonymous No.6913372]

>>6913242
Cringe.

[Anonymous No.6913387]

I want to see more mangaka from /ic/.
Not comic dorks who think it's the same despite the overwhelming mountains of evidence to the contrary, I want to see people who really want to draw manga.

[Anonymous No.6913788]

[Anonymous No.6913803]

>>6913387
Are mangaka not dorks too?

[Anonymous No.6913852]

>>6913387
I want to take what I like from both and make something that uses both.

[Anonymous No.6913981]

>>6913803
Yes but much cooler than comic dorks

>>6913852
Then a /cmmg/ type thread is more for you
If only the comicposers would rename theirs and stop hijacking manga threads

[Anonymous No.6913984]

>>6913981
Comicposters* but that actually works too

[Anonymous No.6914021]

>>6913387
No one has said that manga (=Japanese comics) and for example American comics are exactly the same. What people are saying that manga and American comics have different norms and conventions but they're still part of the same medium. The difference in the format isn't big enough to justify calling it a separate medium; one tradition has a reading direction suits the Latin alphabet better and the other follows the way it's been traditionally done in East Asian literature. Arabic, Japanese and English novels are all formatted differently but they're still part of the same medium.
Going on a sperging spree that has lasted over two weeks and hijacking an /ic/ general (that only gets few posts per day in the first place) over this nonsense is fucking retarded and you should rethink your priorities in life.
And lasty, the obsession with segregating art is a fanboy nerd mindset. Artists absorb influences from everywhere.
https://mangabrog.wordpress.com/2015/05/17/naoki-urasawa-and-hisashi-eguchi-talk-about-manga-in-the-70s-and-80s-mostly-otomo/
https://fullfrontal.moe/goro-taniguchi-interview/

[Anonymous No.6914031]

>>6914021
>No one has said that manga (=Japanese comics) and for example American comics are exactly the same.
Yes they have, and this same person destroyed his own argument by proving that manga and comics are their own different things.

Manga? Japanese comics.
Comics? Comics from anywhere else.
But comics, are not manga.
It's not that hard.

[Anonymous No.6914039]

>>6914031
Are non-Japanese people ningen?

[Anonymous No.6914046]

>>6914039
Do non-Japanese people call Japanese people ningen?
It's not the same and you know it.

[Anonymous No.6914062]

>>6914046
Language you use doesn't change the essence of the object. Why are you suddenly taking the language angle when you're arguing that manga is an inherently different medium from comics?

[Anonymous No.6914067]

>>6914062
>Language you use doesn't change the essence of the object.
It does when used improperly, like calling non-manga comics manga.
>suddenly
This was always my argument.

[Anonymous No.6914085]

>>6914067
>It does
I tried calling my dog a cat but it's still a dog though.
>This was always my argument.
Get a hold of yourself, man.

[Anonymous No.6914091]

>>6914085
>I tried calling my dog a cat but it's still a dog though.
That's what I'm saying. Manga is manga, comics are comics. Manga is comics from Japan, but comics from everywhere else are not manga. How is this so hard for you to understand?

[Anonymous No.6914100]

>>6914091
>Manga is comics from Japan, but comics from everywhere else are not manga. How is this so hard for you to understand?
It's pretty easy for me to understand that comics that are not from Japan are not comics from Japan. All I've been saying that comics from Japan are the same medium as comics not from Japan.

[Anonymous No.6914111]

Manga itself is now much more than the literal meaning of the word so it's only fitting that /mmg/ too would become more all-encompassing.
It's pure pottery!

[Anonymous No.6914118]

I wonder when he's gonna catch on that everyone is just making fun of him at this point.
I'm glad the jannies let this schizo stay, he's been really funny so far.
No matter how shitty your life is, remember you'll never be as big a schizo as Fred :)
Do you have a website or a twitter Fred?

[Anonymous No.6914130]

>>6914111
>Manga itself is now much more than the literal meaning of the word
It's its own entire artform, it's own medium. It's more than simply another genre of comics.

[Anonymous No.6914133]

>>6914130
It's more than a genre but less than a medium: a national tradition within a medium.

[Anonymous No.6914140]

>>6914130
with this mindset you'll never even become an artist let alone a mangaka.
you're a weasel and you'll always be laughed at Fred.
Admit your wrongdoing by posting all the fake threads you created to subvert and deflect from your misdeeds.
You'll never create anything worthwhile because you're dishonest. Even your "wan piss" prebeg fanfiction stinks of emotional phoniness, you're a dogshit human being and you keep acting like one, come clean Fred.

[Anonymous No.6914144]

>>6914133
>It's more than a genre but less than a medium:
That's fair

[Anonymous No.6914438]

But it's still enough to have it's own separate thread for people not looking for comics

[Anonymous No.6914680]

>>6914438
stop bumping this dogshit thread with nothing dumbass, nobody cares. Dead thread.

[None !!2tSyJVTaN/p No.6914734]

https://medibang.com/mpc/episodes/fy2311010444137420025444014/

[Anonymous No.6914736]

>>6914734
not manga.

[Anonymous No.6914743]

>>6914736
It very clearly is

[Anonymous No.6914942]

>>6914743
still 0 likes or favs, on a manga website, clearly not a manga.

[Anonymous No.6915085]

>>6912600
>>6912605
Manga is printed off of cheap or recycled paper

[Anonymous No.6915409]

>>6914942
So? It is still manga regardless of website performance.

[Anonymous No.6915480]

Pretty good video about the history of manga.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSk5rT-kqjg

Choujuu Jinbutsu Giga(pictured) is considered the first manga ever.

[Anonymous No.6916058]

so, I just read this manga published on Jump that was a ripoff of Bleach except the author replaced Ichigo and Rukia with a betacuck and yandere

[Anonymous No.6916251]

>>6913981
What the hell's a cmmg and why should I go there?

[Anonymous No.6916318]

Not ur blog
Stop spamming dumb shit nu fred

[Anonymous No.6916634]

What's with newfags and inventing schizo boogiemen? That's unironic schizo behavior

[Anonymous No.6916874]

>>6916634
>inventing schizo boogiemen
Not fooling anybody

[Anonymous No.6916948]

>>6916251
comics and manga general - for manga AND comics
>what's the difference?
There are several significant enough differences that anyone looking for manga shouldn't have to sift through hundreds of off-topic, non-manga posts to find manga related content, in a thread called "manga making general".

>>6916058
kek

[Anonymous No.6917198]

>>6916948
Sure, point me the right way.

[Anonymous No.6917208]

>>6915480
>>6916058
>>6916251
>>6916634
>>6916948
>>6917198
Resorting to make up people just so you can talk to yourself in a thread nobody wants to post in...

[Anonymous No.6917228]

>>6917208
Your vendetta against me is just sad anon.

>>6917198
If you want comics there are comic threads, this is the (real) manga thread, the other (wrongfully named /mmg/) was made by an anon who got butthurt at proving the schizo right and accidentally destroying his own argument that manga and comics are the same, which is sad because he of all people should know better but his hubris causes him to do things like >>6917208 in a poor attempt to save face.

[Anonymous No.6917239]

>>6916948
/mmg/ is pretty much dead anyway. Only the same 5 webcomic self-promoters even post in that thread, along with the guy who posts cats and anime girl reactions

[Anonymous No.6917241]

>>6917228
>>6917239
Damn so we are at the schizo stage where this is the original /mmg and the other one is the fraud that somebody just made up out of nowhere?
You'll never stop to amazes us Nu Fred!
Fascinating!!

[Anonymous No.6917244]

>>6917239
Honestly people shilling their non-manga webcomics is likely what killed /mmg/
I remember coming here a long time ago looking for manga and the thread was nothing but webcomics, one dude posting manga and got like no engagement or someone comparing their work to western capeshit.

[Anonymous No.6917268]

>>6917244
you keep deflecting the point that nobody but you is spamming this thread with work that is objectively worse and more novice than the other /mmg.
Explain that; if we need an /mmg made to your image, where are the works retard?
How can you say /mmg is dead when you're the alternative, and outside of spam links nobody is fucking with your schizo ass????????

How about you address THAT u mentally deficient idiot?

[Anonymous No.6917274]

>>6917268
like it or not what he posted was more manga than what any of those webcomic shill post

[Anonymous No.6917278]

>>6917274
Pyw and prove you're not Nu Fred then

[Anonymous No.6917286]

who even is Fred/Nu Fred and no you crabs don't deserve to see my work

[Anonymous No.6917298]

>>6917286
then why do you care so much about the mmg thread if you're not gonna post any art you phony nodraw nu fred?

[Anonymous No.6917305]

>>6917298
The fact that you're so obsessed with Fred means you post where he posts which means your art sucks by association

[Anonymous No.6917335]

>>6917305
this is why comicsfags are so desperate to post in manga threads

[Anonymous No.6917383]

>>6917335
Jealous of what? this is the emptiest general in whole of /ic...

[Anonymous No.6917386]

>>6917383
shit attracts flies

[Anonymous No.6917460]

>>6917386
>>6917386
You shouldn't be talking about shit when ur works looks the way it does, also stop reporting the replies calling u out on ur bullshit you dishonest pussy.

[Anonymous No.6917472]

>>6917460
never posted my work so you don't know what it looks like

[Anonymous No.6917504]

>>6917472
either nu fred schizo-ing, or a crabby nodraw that got butthurt in old /mmg, we get some of these kids once in a while, but then they never post any work or contribute to anything, glad they all get a new shiny bucket where they can do just jack fucking shit. Enjoy the echo retards.

[Anonymous No.6918575]

>>6917228
You didn't actually point me in the direction of cmmg, anon.

[Anonymous No.6918673]

>>6918575
Because /cmmg/ doesn't formally exist yet.
You can do your part by making /cmmg/ threads and reminding non-manga posters to post in non-manga threads.

[Anonymous No.6918683]

>>6918673
Oh, no, then.
I started this conversation by saying I wanted to combine the parts I like of both. I don't care about whether I'm making "one" or "the other"

This will make me sound a little conceited, but I'm making art here. Call it what you want.

[Anonymous No.6918690]

>>6918683
that gif perfectly represents the state of (fake)/mmg/

>go to thread titled "manga making general"
>hope to see manga making discussion
>it's all non-manga westoid webcomics

[Anonymous No.6918699]

I‘m trying to translate the traditional manga style into digital. I just used the brushes that Procreate offers. My takeaways right now are, that I definitely need more confident linework. Probably a more oval brush to apply different line weight and also more dynamic.

[Anonymous No.6918714]

>>6918699
Linework is an easy fix. Just thin them out during the sketch phase. I don't know about Procreate but CSP has a line-thickness adjustment tool for this purpose.
You don't want to use it on your final ink layer because the spots you adjust my blur or pixelate.
Nice booba, really feel that form here.

[Anonymous No.6918849]

>kills the thread

[Anonymous No.6918865]

>>6918690
Do you believe someone needs to be ethnically Japanese in order to make authentic manga?

[Anonymous No.6918872]

>>6918865
No. See my manga here >>6914734

[Anonymous No.6918880]

>>6918849
Ever notice that non-porn manga for adults rarely get translated? Japan has entire genres of manga for adults but all we get is ecchi seinen

[Anonymous No.6918886]

>>6918849
Tons of manga companies use the word "comics" in their names. Doesn't mean it's not manga. Manga just means "Japanese comics" in the non-Japanese speaking world.
There is an AI writing tool out called "Comic Copilot" (ComiCopo) that just came out in Japan. It isn't called Manga Copilot because it's abbreviated name would be the word for "pussy" (ManCopo/MangaCopo).
They can use "comics" and manga interchangeably because they mean the same thing in their language. But when a non-Japanese person says "manga" it's meant to specifically denote Japanese comics(or "comics" by foreigners made in the Japanese manga style).

[Anonymous No.6918893]

>>6918886
To add to this - on my last trip to Japan when someone asked what I do I told them I draw comics, and he said "manga?" and I told him no it's a comic, but he was using the word "manga" to describe it to someone else.
A few days later someone else wanted to see it, so as a sort of experiment I called it "manga". Then he goes "komikku janai?" (Isn't this a comic?). Showed this same person a fully JP manga page I did and he called it "manga".
That basically settled it for me.

[Anonymous No.6918915]

>>6918886
>>6918893
Stop making up fake experiences and take ur pills nu fred...you're a liar and a fake, your entire existence is an insult to mankind. Get ur autistic ass in check

[Anonymous No.6919017]

>>6918865
Making something that meets the technical requirements of your work to be in the condition for publication in a Japanese manga magazine is just the minimum standard and that much is achievable. It's a whole another thing however to create something that genuinely connects with Japanese readers. If you have no shame, you could do the "Gaijin in Japan ~I Can't Believe My Little Japan Is This Sugoi~" thing, bonus points if the protagonist is constantly orgasming over Japanese food. That's their catnip.

[Anonymous No.6919021]

>>6919017
Very nice explanation.

[Anonymous No.6919103]

>>6918849
Hey it's the hemorroid romcom manga

[Anonymous No.6919854]

>>6915480
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C5%8Dj%C5%AB-jinbutsu-giga
>The Yomiuri Shimbun newspaper with Kanta Ishida discussed different theories of what really is the "first manga". Manga artist, Seiki Hosokibara pointed to Shigisan-engi as the first manga in history. Ishida said that the scrolls be treated as masterpieces in their own right, and not be cubby-holed as just the origin of manga and they have no connection with contemporary manga and the domestic works people are familiar with today.[28]
Not really.

[Anonymous No.6920077]

>>6919854
It is a hotly debated topic among experts. The video linked explains this.

[Anonymous No.6920083]

>>6919854
漫画 "manga" = "whimsical pictures"
frolicking animals is pretty whimsical to me

[Anonymous No.6920086]

>>6920083
Television = far sight
By the same logic you could argue that a telescope and binoculars are televisions

[Anonymous No.6920088]

>>6920086
You don't watch a television less than 1 inch from your face, and the pictures on the screen actually originate from somewhere distant.
3/10 for effort

[Anonymous No.6920091]

>>6920088
Those are just your own arbitrary specifications that you pulled out of your ass. Zero points for you.

[Anonymous No.6920097]

>>6920091
Well excuse me Mr. burnt retinas.

[Anonymous No.6920099]

>>6920091
>your own arbitrary specifications
Not at all. Television shows aren't filmed in the house of whoever is watching them while they're watching it.

[Anonymous No.6920113]

>>6920099
You're still missing the point. Words "far" and "sight" don't specify how close you should be to the thing that gives you access to "far sight", or when has the thing happened that you're gaining sight to or how long the distance should be other than "far". I see pretty far when I take look through my window, that could be a "far sight" too.

[Anonymous No.6920119]

>>6920113 (me)
Basically: if you treat words that make up the compound word as the definition of the word, you're in for a lot of silliness. Just look up the kanji that make up the word "sushi" https://jisho.org/search/%E5%AF%BF%E5%8F%B8%20%23kanji

[Anonymous No.6920137]

it's funny how nu-fred fancies himself a debate bro, but you look at his behavior online and you realize he's just a talentless loser with debilitating aspergers.

[Anonymous No.6920146]

>>6920113
>You're still missing the point
Your "point" was a stretch to begin with.

[Anonymous No.6920176]

How do you feel about colored, bichrome or trichrome manga?

(source: @nowre_orig)

[Anonymous No.6920185]

>>6920176
Manga with 10/10 coloring > Monochrome >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colored >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bichrome/Trichrome (I always hated it when they used it in SJ back in the day)

[Anonymous No.6920197]

>>6920176
i prefer monochrome i dont even like colored manga pages, with monochrome its very easy on the eyes, contrast is easily achieved and i think its easier to guide the eye where you want it where as colored manga requiers a higher skil to do the same thing and i have never seen a colored manga do it successfully, i have never read a bichrom/trichrome manga but if its anything like the op image you posted it looks like absolute dogshit

[Anonymous No.6920313]

>>6920185
>>6920197
Monochrome/BW > color > bichrome

[Anonymous No.6921186]

November is the first month of six, join in! The server is in the resources.

[Anonymous No.6921792]

>>6921186
Neat

[Anonymous No.6923210]

B/W manga with bichrome speech bubbles

(source: @POPON050707)

Seems to be a trend with twitter manga to at least color the speech bubbles

In my opinion I think it can look good with the right colors but haven't really seen any that I actually like yet.

[Anonymous No.6923211]

>>6923210
>(source: @POPON050707)
Forgot pic like a retard.

[Anonymous No.6923218]

Another twitter manga with colored speech bubbles.

(source: @crescent_787)

[Anonymous No.6923231]

>>6912600
>>6915085
nothing to do with paper quality
the pure white you have on screen is similar to someone lighting you which is way different that the reality since with shadow and other light bouncing in the room the paper wont be pure light even when you draw them

that why i always draw my comic with a tiny grey background util I put the screentone phase because
1 it similar to what you have in reality
2 it way more efficient for your eyes

[Anonymous No.6923246]

>>6923211
>>6923218
>>6923210
You should post more dumb random links to bump this sorry ass thread.
Keep it up bro you're proving everybody wrong...

[Anonymous No.6923284]

How do most mangaka work before inking? Do they do all the pages first in pencil and then ink the pages one-by-one, or do they finish a page entirely before starting the next one? I want to know which is most efficient.

[Anonymous No.6923300]

>>6923284
>Do they do all the pages first in pencil and then ink the pages one-by-one
The name (nemu) is a rough draft of every page in the chapter.
From the ones I've seen in videos and their streams all the pages are sketched first and then inked.

Akihito Yoshitomi filmed his entire process in this video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyIOZSR08zQ

>inb4 "IT SAYS COMIC REEE"
Japanese can use the terms interchangeably since it means the same thing in their language.
Also it says Draw MANGA right there.

[Anonymous No.6923301]

>>6923300
The exact answer I was looking for, thanks!

[Anonymous No.6923309]

>>6923211
>>6923218
Imagine Rutger Hauer in Blade Runner delivering that Tears in rain monologue but there's a masturbating midget in the background. That's pretty how much how I feel about those colored speech bubbles, they break the harmony of monochrome manga completely.

[Anonymous No.6923316]

>>6923309
kek

[Anonymous No.6923384]

>>6923300
>inb4 "IT SAYS COMIC REEE" Japanese can use the terms interchangeably since it means the same thing in their language. Also it says Draw MANGA right there.

spergy tard still hasn't figured out that everybody's just trolling him...what a sad fuck

[Anonymous No.6923424]

>>6923231
I recently started doing this. Don't know why it works but it does, and they say renaissance painters used to work on toned ground, never white canvas

[Anonymous No.6923492]

>>6913981
>Dorks, USA. :/
>Dorks, Japan. :O

[Anonymous No.6923518]

>>6923492
Yes

[Anonymous No.6923772]

4th page.
traditional simply takes longer. And as much as I like hatching, it's not a viable way to render comics.

[Anonymous No.6923812]

How did you guys get into writing? I am pretty confident to do at least a decent drawing, but the writing part of comics is killing my motivation.

[Anonymous No.6923830]

>>6923772
Huh, really? I work almost exclusively traditional cause digital takes too long. I'd love to see this when it's done.

[Anonymous No.6924179]

>>6923772
>>6923812
Ask in the comic thread
This is the manga general
They aren't the same thing

[Anonymous No.6924203]

>>6924179
What are you on about?
>Support each other and talk about your work or the work of others that excites you. Inking, character design, paneling / layout, writing, planning, and other discussions are all welcome.
>writing

[Anonymous No.6924296]

>>6923812
Usually you just have to do it a lot and get feedback from people who read it. Start with short stories and not long and grandiose ones. When it comes to thinking of stories, I assume it’s different for everybody since I can’t just sit down and think of something. Usually it comes to me whenever I’m doing something unrelated and mindless, or am at the gym. But I’ll start with a simple concept or a specific scenario that sounds interesting and build up around it. For example, Shinji Ikari, but is actually a 40 year old, schizophrenic fast food worker who threatens to blow himself up at work with homemade explosives and Asuka and Rei are just figments of his imagination.

[Anonymous No.6924457]

Since we're loosely on the topic of comics and manga, I spent the day looking over some of the ones I owned and making comparisons. With comics, right off the bat, each panel feels like a totally different scene even if it's in the same room. Fights are not animated in the slightest, they focus entirely on impact shots and, at most, the wind up where you'll get half a quippy joke. The pacing is also totally fucked and this is present in both new and old comics. The only dude who seems to get it right is Mike Mignola, everyone else I guess lacks the patience to tell a story. Also the dialogue for comics is WAY too fucking long like sweet jesus it makes HxH look good.
The take away I got from this all is that manga focuses on animating the page. You WILL see a panel dedicated to characters walking. You WILL see totally speechless pages. And that's all okay because it isn't trying to flood your brain with only what the author wants to tell you, not the artist. A fun little exercise I did was peruse through both a manga (specifically Black Lagoon) and a comic (specifically X-men #1) and NOT read it, just look at the pictures and try to see if, through the images alone, can you still understand the story? X-men failed pretty quickly, Black Lagoon did surprisingly well. That's all I have to say. Let your art speak for itself.

[Anonymous No.6924505]

>>6923812
Write it down every time you think "I wish there was a manga about ____" or just try to think what's something that you really would want to read.

[Anonymous No.6924524]

>>6924457
Western comics do often feel like they're a series of paintings that were turned into a comic as an afterthought. Reading manga feels like you're actually reading a pure comic; something that was meant to be a comic and takes full advantage of the medium.

[Anonymous No.6924689]

>>6924203
this is the schizo mmg, some random whomegalul hijacked the thread by himself, 90% of the posts are just him and another schizo who got mad at the old thread.
Ignore and post on the other one if you want real feedback, and not just some /a tier fanboi commentary.

[Anonymous No.6924745]

>still trying to trick people into going to your western webcomic shill threads

It's sad man, stop. Just pay for advertising.

[Anonymous No.6924776]

>>6924745
no tricking involved when this is the fake mmg thread pal, reason why no one is posting here but tourists and no draws or people mistaking this for the actual mmg.
You're the one that changed the header to suit your own schizoid tendencies you dishonest cheat. All your content is just dumb links and the advice of a guy who's obviously been drawing for only a couple of months at best.

[Anonymous No.6924808]

This thread was made first and has more relevant resources

[Anonymous No.6924848]

>>6924808
Again, completely false and dishonest. That's why your thread doesn't work everybody is aware of how bad faith nu-fred is.
Everybody has an internet connection, all those links aren't obscure or rare.
What he doesn't have is expertise, and you can see it in his work, he is not at the level where he can give advice or sway an entire legacy general, bro wants to be a mod so bad but no one respects him.
He is a liar and a mentally ill con, and no matter what he does he will always be recognized as such in this forum.
nu-fred is the new Gabe, just the last evolution of the ultimate crab.

[Anonymous No.6924851]

>>6924848
>Again, completely false and dishonest.
The time stamp of each thread proves you wrong

[Anonymous No.6924859]

>>6924851
And this post keeps proving that everything you argue you do it in bad faith. you perfectly know what I mean.
You're a liar and a dishonest person.

[Anonymous No.6924883]

>>6924296
>>6924505
Thanks for the advice, anons
>>6924689
Oh, that explains it, didn't even see that there were two threads.

[Anonymous No.6924899]

>>6924883
>Oh, that explains it, didn't even see that there were two threads.
Check the time stamps

[Anonymous No.6924966]

>>6923812
I think it takes a predisposition the same way everything does. In this case, a love for storytelling. I'm a writer, but not because i've written books, but because i'm addicted to creating new fiction. I do a lot of what's called "discovery writing" where when I have an idea i'm thinking about, I just write it. In a way it's a lot like sketching where it's just meant to be fun and indulgent, and a way of exploring new territory.