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>12k a month via Patreon
What exactly is stopping (you) from such success, anon?

>> No.6904155

I keep replying to shitty bait threads on /ic/

>> No.6904158

It would still take literal years to reach that skill level when you're super /beg/ tier

>> No.6904162

Years go by quicker than you think

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because my drawings look like this

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>> No.6904192

now they’re mocking us nodrawbros…

>> No.6904193

you got potential anon, you too can get the coomer and westaboo anime audience sucess

>> No.6904195

that unironically has a lot of appeal if you put a little more effort into the face. I could see an account with 100k followers drawing like this.

>> No.6904212

you will never amount to anything delta

>> No.6904221

I won't draw lewd.

>> No.6904223

is it the same schizo making all these Twitter threads? i swear i've hidden like 5 of these today

>> No.6904253

I don't even draw

>> No.6904261

cute ryuuko clone, excellent midriff and booba, and even dabbing on literal crabs, could it be this hole was made for /ic/?

>> No.6904267

>What exactly is stopping (you) from such success, anon?
My hate and disdain for popular things. I want to get rediscovered decades after my death.

>> No.6904354

ive been a fan of yours since you first started posting on /ic/

pls keep going i believe in you

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it looks like he might have some sort of comic that was popular? I could probably match him on a technical level, but there are a lot more to someone's appeal than just pretty drawings. It looks like he is a more prolific than I am as well. I don't know what else he has done in the beginning that attracted such large following but there are usually some sort of meme that went viral, he also consistently output that kept his existing audience engaged.

While I have looked into his content that doesn't mean its possible for me to implement it, because there are usual some differences in terms of the type of people that like each artist contents. sometimes its more difficult to consistently come up with ideas that people find interested in than just being able to execute it.

>> No.6904382

Draw anime tiddie pinups and coom fanart amd you can go far
Also color your work

>> No.6904411

I have standards

>> No.6904455

>what is stopping you?
Apathy and depression.

Even then, the best way to be successful is to not let people know you exist.
Wanting fame is for kiddies and faggots.

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Simple. Pornfags don't retweet me.

They just ignore me. And people who do pay/like/commission don't have an online presence.

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>What exactly is stopping (you) from such success, anon?
I'll tell you: Im not trying hard enough.
Not only I got a very busy life where I dont have all the time to draw (worsened by the fact Im painfully slow to draw in the first place) but Im also out of focus on the things I could and should be doing: Im yet to fine my storytelling skills, my writing, make a content schedule to stick with and being overall active in social media, I've been on hiatus status since 2021 and rightfully so, Im still finishing my useless design degree, dealing with air conditioners on a literal daily basis and doing the occasional housework.

Im pretty sure if I apply myself, I'll be able to make some progress on my skills, the social media game and also reach the stupid dream of making that light novel for people to enjoy... or at very least make my blondie reach internet waifu status by constantly shilling her.

Anon, I love your stuff and I adore your blondie, you are doubtful about not having something appealing but I've seen you for a while and Im positive that you have what it takes (and a bit more) to get your art out there and success. Maybe all you need is to put your focus on the right place? At any rate I only hope you make it and make it big, your art is amazing.

Didnt we have this thread before? Even the artist and the girl are the exact same. This Tifa x Ryoko looking ass is honestly kind of boring in terms of design, there's not even a color to stand out among all those tones of black and white.

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i gotta work more on faces and interesting poses

>> No.6904532

Butterpie is already a waifu in my heart, Anon...

>> No.6904534

Damn, I am trying WAY to hard with rendering

>> No.6904546
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I refuse to play the game.

>> No.6904548

pyw, anon
I wanna see how you've been rendering

>> No.6904555


Pretty much my goal, live off of drawing my own original creations, no better feeling.

>> No.6904565

>What exactly is stopping (you) from such success, anon?
I want to make art, not playing shitty social media games. What's stopping you from not shitting up the board with pointless threads?

>> No.6904568

You or some shitter are just going to berate my pseudo-anime style. I've learned my lesson.

>> No.6904582

Digits checked and GMI

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ik this is bait but i think i just lack charisma, soul or smth, i do coomer shit which i like and enjoy but i do a lot of oc stuff which nobody cares for
(picrel is a commission)
unironically u can get VERY popular if u do a big niche, look at that emo incest game, it's a similar cute style
some weight control, confidence and u can be pretty popular too
and if lineart aint ur thing, just color
look at japanese artists, they do simple lineart and godlike coloring and get away with it

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they berate bc they don't know how to draw or smth kekek
most artists r completely chill

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>> No.6904595

cuuuuuuuuuuuuuute :D

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>(picrel is a commission)
anon, props to you, but goddamn, people actually pay for your skill level purely because of the render i would assume?
How much did you ask for that?

damn man porn really is ez mode

>> No.6904630

>The nest has fallen
>Billions must fly

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because I draw for fun and don't care and I'm too scared and embarrassed to post anything online also my art is shit

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with online I mean under a pseudonym or identity that isn't anonymous

>> No.6904648

I don't draw porn

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>people actually pay for your skill level purely because of the render i would assume?
i hope so? i try to do my best and study a lot, i have a loooong way to go
>How much did you ask for that?
like 70 bux, i think it's a fair price since i made it in like, 2-3 weeks, i'm not fast at all
>porn really is ez
i do commissions bc they're my neetbux, i almost dont get clients doe kek
(picrel i made earlier this year)

>> No.6904658

I think your art is technically better, not that that matters on twitter. To be honest, I'm actually kind of baffled you're still a 4chan regular instead of being popular on some social media. What are your plans for the future?

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He doesn't either looks like, just cheesecakey stuff with at most nips.

>> No.6904669

He paywalls his porn on his patreon full penetration and all

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desu i'm too affraid to fuckup or censor shit for pixiv
i should probably post more often even if it shitty

and I'm afraid people will make fun of my esl hentai comics

>> No.6904688

I'm always amazed how coomers are always amazed by, and willing to pay for, the same tired subjects of pornography. Tomboyish aesthetic, bimbo bodies, sling bikinis, always some shit boilerplate edgy or boilerplate ironic humor that only comes from a regularly overstimulated brain that's been taught to neglect imagination. Doesn't it ever spark ingenuity or make boredom? It's amazing how a market with zero innovation or personality (most of the time) continuously attracts new swathes of people while offering them only what they've seen before. And most times, what they can easily see for free.

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His work is nice but falls apart outside of girl posing in void. I'm appeal coping but it makes me feel better about having a more general all-purpose style.

>> No.6904696

I would be proud to stroke my cock to your art.

>> No.6904699

so cool!!!! love ur lineart!

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Yeah about that...

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The amount of followers, but I'll get there, been gaining followeres lately.

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You're right. Well, that makes his popularity more understandable. I thought he was doing it all without going the porn route.

>> No.6904735

Being a social networking whore is cancer.

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>Doesn't it ever spark ingenuity or make boredom?
You have actually answered your question
>It's amazing how a market with zero innovation or personality (most of the time) continuously attracts new swathes of people while offering them only what they've seen before.
It is exactly because it is "new" people; it really is kids most of the time, or actual, legit mentally retarded individuals i.e. autistic, down syndrome, aspergers, etcetera.

Could you explain the sheer amazement about any and all even most innocuous coom if not considering what kind of people would consume, treat and interact with coom like that?
If it's not those, it's mostly just genuine role playing perverts and lonely people.
I mean, this porn obsession shit is only going to get worse because society and whatnot.

>> No.6904753

kill all coomers

>> No.6904762

cooming is a cope, anon
killing won't save them and it won't stop creating new ones

easy access to and propagation of adult material and female hypergamy have led to this

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thanks for i guess i just need to overthink less and just post

>> No.6904808

>It's amazing how a market with zero innovation or personality (most of the time) continuously attracts new swathes of people while offering them only what they've seen before.

Could say the same thing about this board and anons obsession with the anime aesthetic.

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With every fiber of my being, I genuinely, absolutely hate the art of the guy in your picture. He keeps drawing the same vapid subjects over and over like a psychotic dog that keeps returning to its vomit, and the worst part is that he has no motivation to improve. This is unrelated to the topic, but I needed to get this off my chest.
Anyway, picrel is what ~500k followers looks like. Clearly, there's little correlation between quality and success.
I have a feeling you know more than you're letting on, but you're either too lazy or otherwise unwilling to take advantage of it.

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>> No.6904869

That makes a lot of sense, kids and mentally handicapped people, or at least autistic/aspergers-adjacent people. The same type of people that speed-running enthusiasts are, both having the ability to somehow do and consume the same stimuli unceasingly without ever getting over it.
Anime and manga too, endless copy/paste stories, most in that same copy/paste style. Just flavor of the month imitations of set tropes with a new coat of paint. Like how the flavorless porn illustrations that get 800k likes are just set tropes with a new coat of paint. Nothing new, nothing that that will ever be remembered, and nothing that really separates it from A-I slop, A-I at least has an excuse. But hikkos an otakus will shun any shadow of life in favor of venerating generic anime girl #1241452564. Until anime girl #345348957 arrives, then it's onto the new idol.
I can't fathom wanting to add more anime slop to the world, there are already 9,000,000 bugmen who live only to do this.

>> No.6904886

Whew the amount of cope in here is unbearable. What fraction of braincell do you have to have to do this?

>> No.6904896

>his popularity is understandable

No its not, its mid artwork of his OC over and over. This dude is not even drawing FOTM

>> No.6904925

It's not that impressive dude. There's 1000s of no names with better work on pinterest.

>> No.6904942

Based tiddie artist dabbing on the literal crabs

>> No.6904996

Google the “mere exposure” effect.

Your style and shapes aren’t as appealing as his, nor is it sexually charged enough to gain coomer appeal even though you have more technical knowledge. Despite that I can see you quickly reaching 10k followers if you wanted if you don’t already have that many.

Everyone else itt is delusional.

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The fact that I'm actually trying since 2021 and failing miserably at 300 followers only getting one commission per year.
I'm like darksydephil because even at easy mode I suck.

>> No.6905023

Also you're only as bad as DSP if you constantly e-beg while spending horrific amounts of money on wrestling mobile games

>> No.6905029

Most recent pic from the weekend.
>inb4 regretting posting my work

>> No.6905037

Hey I like it
Suprised you're stuck at 300

>> No.6905045

It's polished but who does this appeal to? A small niche audience? Do you know artists doing exactly what you are who have had much more success?

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>I can see you quickly reaching 10k followers
I did, it took 5 years, but then I got banned in june.

I thought I did but when I went back I couldn't find as many example of it as I thought I had.

aw thanks, I was never able to focus on anything, to be honest, if it doesn't have a lot of input I'll switch to something else in like one or two months, because it just wasn't able to keep my mind engaged.

hm, in general I argue that its not the technical aspect or pure appeal, those just need to be "enough", but other things someone do or their ideas and personality that propagates their content, however without being familiar with their social media history and their body of work its difficult to discern. I think for his skill level 500K might be an outlier.

>> No.6905057

What the fuck did you do?

>> No.6905060

I guess it is what it is. Maybe not a good salesman.

>Do you know artists doing exactly what you are who have had much more success?
Pin-ups of their furry/scalie OC's? Definitely. Still, I get your point. The pic I posted was a personal drawing that I wasn't planning on posting, but your questions also fit some of my public drawings, at least the ones where I wasn't tryharding with fanart of popular things.

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they did not specify. I am an extremely problematic porn artist, so it could be a lot of things, really.

>> No.6905086

>What exactly is stopping (you) from such success, anon?
Not having a patreon accout.

>> No.6905330

>I have standards
No you don't

>> No.6905333

You have drawn the exact same thing for almost a decade now and have shown no improvement. Kill yourself.

>> No.6905339

Nta but what are you talking about?

>> No.6905354

Technically, his art is good but his style is fucking ugly to look at

>> No.6905364

His more vanilla stuff is very cute, but as soon as he draws porn the faces just fall apart lol.
I'm envious of his success and the fact that he reached it with such a simplistic style. Very based.

>> No.6905366

In a lot of his porn the chick ends up looking like a troon

>> No.6905384

>It's amazing how a market with zero innovation or personality (most of the time) continuously attracts new swathes of people while offering them only what they've seen before. And most times, what they can easily see for free.
ever watch a sportsball game, anon? totally normal for the average person to have stagnant interests

>> No.6905385

cute rin

>> No.6905457

I could draw circles around that artist

>> No.6905461

Do it.

>> No.6905466

Nothing, I'm catching up fast out of pure spite. 6 months and I'm 1/5 the way there. (145k, $2.7k a month)
No, I won't pmw

>> No.6905471

How? I'm a good artist with an appealing style but my growth is so much slower. What's your secret?

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Your artstyle is cute I love it

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>> No.6905515

No way this is his actual art, what the fuck is going on with that face, looks like her head is melting

>> No.6905519

crabkings won

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Yep, that's his art

>> No.6905556
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I only have like 0.3% of that guy's follower. It's over....

>> No.6905560

1.8k followers isn't a bad start
Once you hit 10k growing becomes easier

>> No.6905561

King! GMI! Blog? I love you!

>> No.6905562

Cute + good attitude.

>> No.6905569

I hate that makeup.

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Many reasons, OP
>Unwilling to participate in trends
>Not thinking I know better than others, but knowing I do
>General Wrong Think (TM)
>Being unable to sit still for extended periods and actually improve in the visual skill department
>Main character is intentionally gimped in her design to be initially offputting to force me into giving her an actual character, but I don't draw enough to complete my own self imposed challenge

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Holy Dunning Kruger

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>draws a man
>calls it a her
this is why i don't want to be on twitter
give the wrong autist an ounce of attention and you've done goofed

>> No.6905618

>Being unable to sit still for extended periods and actually improve in the visual skill department
The only valid point you made the rest are just copes to tiptoe around your bad art.

>> No.6905625

That anon is a notorious troll that draws nothing but draw cartoony bust scribbles.

>> No.6905627

Is she drinking a bottle of mayo?

>> No.6905635

Nah, man, I am confidently shit.
I got banned from Twitter for shitting on troons and E-whores, so I can't build an audience there, FOM shit doesn't appeal to me, and as >>6905616 points out, my last point is there, I'm just not good at conveying it or making it appealing, and I'm not putting in the effort to get better either. I am firmly in like D tier, C- if I wanna be generous.

>> No.6905680

No, your post and your art are confusing, anon
You shit on troons and ewhore, but you draw trannies in a tranny style.
This isn't a matter of
>its a beginner drawing
but your choices in how to portray your character; it is simply and objectively ugly and honestly only appealing to a tranny audience.

>> No.6905686

>I got banned from Twitter for shitting on troons and E-whores
literally just don't engage with them. it's that easy. not getting banned is the easiest fucking thing, it's amazing how many retards on here manage to fail at it. It's like you spent your entire life on 4chan and don't know any other way of behaving than what's commonplace here.

>> No.6905822

not anymore, i am working on bettering myself, there is no point at getting mad at other artist's success now that i see the big critique is that i draw the same thing but it's too the late damage is done and the reputation is tarnished already but i must continue drawing and not really engage with anyone since the same is done to me

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A new one

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>meanwhile on twitter there are accounts with triple digits followers that made their following shitting on people and ragebaiting
>or the whole accounts are based on trolling
>but its alright because it wasn't targeted towards women and homosexuals
>implying twitter has any common sense at all
i dunno, maybe troons and e-thots shouldn't be allowed on social media because they're schizos

i've been called a twitter fag countless times for using reaction images and 4chan, although having the reputation it HAD, was never as unhinged and retarded as your average normie.
Also, all the actual legitimate shitposting autists who are known for being disruptive, spamming non-stop and not funny, all come from twitter.

>> No.6905985

>all come from twitter.
Nearly every single anon on this site has a twitter account whether they admit it or not. It's how they get their screencaps

>> No.6906019

>everyone here is a twitter tourist
Good job, you figured it out.
well, thats mostly because this is the art board, so of course you'll get a bunch of fags here

4chan oldfags are mostly on reddit now, because at least they can talk about their hobbies without getting spammed with cope and seethe and discord drama 24/7

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I'm ashamed to admit I like this art, DESPITE the Steven Universe retarded mouth.
Everything else has very pleasant shapes and the silhouettes are great.

KEK, the gradient boobs make them extremely realistic compared to everything else, which is very funny.
But you're not that far from achieving a more globally appealing anime style, did this with a mouse but I hope it's illustrative enough.

>70 for 2~3 weeks
That's underchanging by a lot, but it's understandable if you're a nobody.
Build a brand and that'd be worth way more.
This one is more like 70 dollars.

>> No.6906042

There is something uglily masculine about her head, probably to do with how the hair doesn't synnergize 100%.

I'd say study Constanze from LWA to figure out why she is cute and yours isn't.

Other than that, your artwork is great, anything you put out would be cool to see.

>> No.6906052

I'm >>6906037
I take back what I said, the mouths are beautiful compared to this B-shaped califaggot style. What the hell is this? I looked at the Picnic fatty and all I can think is "Steven Universe's now a tranny?!" or something.

>> No.6906208

Nobody tell him about the 30k hell, so many artists are stuck in it. Not low enough to give up, not high enough to make it.

>> No.6906251

I've seen those types
Usually they flood their media galleries with unrelated shit and it fucks their engagement into the dirt

>> No.6906264

>character development
You can do it, anon. Keep moving forward and pushing your limits.

>> No.6906312

I'm sorry anon but making the face less retarded removes all of the meme appeal.

>> No.6906317

Yeah but the boobs tell me it's not supposed to look like a Flash asset from 2003

>> No.6906333

Is this real or projection?

>> No.6906337

At 30k you can make decent money off commissions. Patreon possibly but only if you draw porn regularly

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you just want me to draw Constanze are you?

This is not the first time I get comments that my girls are too masculine, but I think Constanze's face is too round. I do have my own hangup on how I wanted to draw this particular character and her slight masculine appearance was part of my internal descriptions associated with her, so often time I'll try to make her more masculine looking.

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I'm not sure what I want, since stylization can go in many directions.
I am not off-put by her muscles or manly charactersistics in general, just something about the head shape, I believe.

I THINK making her not a chinlet by adding the contour of the face helps, as well as adding more mass to the bottom of the back of the skull, it generally looks like she doesn't have enough encephalitic mass because of how chunky her lower face is.

>> No.6906432

I'm not even a coomer but I like his drawings, I think the outfits are cute and he has a more westoid style I like, gotta admit the weakest point is definitely the face though

>> No.6906442

my work ethic/output is shit
also i'm retarded - i want to go the OC route but i have zero following
right now i'm just compiling a list of nsfw artist ocs to draw fanart of, and see if i can network into this

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>but it's understandable if you're a nobody
yeah i only have 1.5k followers after 3 yrs of drawings and it was out of sheer luck bc some bigggg artists rted me
>Build a brand and that'd be worth way more
i'm thinking of being a medieval&monster girl artist bc i love the aesthetics but i'm slow af so i lose following reaaally quick kek

>> No.6906553

How does this even happen? This looks like a completely different artist, the faces are hideous wtf

>> No.6906554
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No fucking clue, how he has 600k followers is beyond me.
I'm at the point where I never want to hear "uhm askhually, nsfw isn't easy mode teehee" ever again

>> No.6906586

that face LMAO

>> No.6906587

Looks like something a high schooler would draw

>> No.6906595

Why does she look like a fucking troon?

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I'll give you a clue
pic related is how most people register pornographic information

nothin matter as long as cum, tits, dick in pussy

>> No.6906688
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>the gradient boobs make them extremely realistic compared to everything else
i was trying to understand rendering again by doing the breasts seen here, but i guess i fell into the more gradient category but yeah, thank you for the face change, i still gotta work on drawing more appealing faces

>> No.6906845

You are saying that as long as the sex parts are appealing, the rest doesnt matter much?

>> No.6906850

632k of bad taste.

I don't find the art interesting. But good for the artist, low effort art to attract low effort people. Get paid for it. Pretty smart.

>> No.6906862

its easy u just buy followers on a site like playerup

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>> No.6907195

appeal? nah, it ain't that deep, it's just sexual imagery itself and the rest is superficial to the consumer, hence they do not really care about the not-sex parts

that is why some guys can get away with drawing abominable calarts faces like that

matter of the fact is, his lines are clean, and the colors+shading easily understandable thus the viewer doesn't have to strain his brain to understand what he's looking at
He sees
He knows
He likes because cumsextitties

Unironically, such comic styles that have flat and easily digestible visual information will do good with a western audience

here is a video that somewhat touches on the subject of design that approaches and explains analytic and holistic thinking

in short tho;
ye, it don't matter much, just have clean picture and show bob and lasagna

>> No.6907261

Are people really happy with 600k followers and all the stress this carries? Not to mention NSFW attract the most kind of mentally ill individual. Imagine even one of those creeps stalking you or even another artists begging for RTs or somebody really really jealous of you doxxing you and doing all kind of shit to bring you down. This is why I stay in my niche because we're a small circle of artists and people all know each other. Commissioners or clients all know each other too and there is minimum mental illness and drama.

>> No.6907264

>censoring the feet
You know nothing about the world, son.

>> No.6907265

This is false. The face is like half the appeal of a picture. Even mangaka get away shit anatomy as long as they can draw a pretty face they're ok

>> No.6907271

No, he's right. You can get away with a lot if you're not targeting an eastern audience. Western coomers don't care much.

>> No.6907274

i could say i fucked up and noticed it too late
but i can also say that i did it on purpose because footfags will pay for the "uncensored" version
Exceptions don't make the rule.
And there is a clear difference between sfw and nsfw and where the focus of the viewer shifts.

If you have le kawaii uwu anime grill, of course, the face will be the focus, especially the sparkly huge eyes and whatnot
If you have porn, the body is the focus, rest don't matter as much.
We're talking from a non-artist consumer point of view.
Of course, as an artist, you're already predisposed to notice more things than your average normie.
also this >>6907271

Most westerners see "shapes" and colors.
Ever wondered why comics are always colored and manga usually b&w i.e. only lineart?

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I make more than this working from home.

>> No.6907340

Block weirdos amd enjoy your money

>> No.6907345


>Most westerners see "shapes" and colors.
Ever wondered why comics are always colored and manga usually b&w i.e. only lineart?

You'd have a point if manga wasn't popular in the west too.

>> No.6907361

These successful coom artists make me wonder, would it be worthwhile to make a company of coom artists and post on one account. Kind of like webtoons being a compelany of artists producing shit with the same style so you won't evrn know if its another artist.

>> No.6907366

Yes, it can be worthwhile. Otherwise, doujinshi circles wouldn't exist.

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>You'd have a point if manga wasn't popular in the west too.
Nice non-sequitur.
Here's your (you).

>> No.6907407


How is it a non-sequitur? You posit that westerners see shapes and colors, well then how is manga done in b&w more (at least in America) popular than domestic western comics which are in color. B&w manga should fall flat here going by your hypothesis.

>> No.6907433
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because thinking in absolutes is what dimwits does
If all birds have wings, it generally means that birds can fly, and the statement i.e. the generalization does not become invalid because flightless birds exists.

The question i presented was to make understand the why something like comics which is generally western, is mostly done in colors and lacking details; capeshit characters are mostly just one shade of color to be easily readable, whereas eastern designs are more complicated and exceptions, don't make the rule.

If you want to argue semantics, why don't you show me which manga are selling in the west?
Is it one piece? Dragonball? Naruto? mha?
All mangas that are more or less not purely eastern?

>how was that statement irrelevant?
Because how does that statement prove anything by claiming that manga is popular in the west when the subject matter of the conversation is about how people perceive visual information?

its the same fucking energy as accusing someone to hate gays because he's straight

>> No.6907440

>because thinking in absolutes is what dimwits does
You say this after you said all that shit about color and shapes? Do you have any self awareness?
The other anon blasted your faggot pretentious out and you can't just accept that.

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>"exceptions make the rules"
>"generalizations bad, because they just are"
>"u-u-ur mad and seething because, you just are, ok?"
epic troll fellow 4channer, you got me to reply
so epic

now shut the fuck up and fuck off back to twitter

>> No.6907469

You made a generalization that he proved wrong in a straightforward and simple example instead of bloviating but instead you double down on retardation and excuse it all away and make a fucking strawman.
You are not as smart as you think you are.

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>he proved wrong by making an irrelevant and irrational statement that has nothing to do with the original point and discussion
>proceeds to ad hominem and derail the conversation
>trying to explain shit? wow you must be seething
Anon, why is Allegria the peak of western art styles used for marketing?
Because westerners tend to go for minimalism, hence why shapes and colors is what is most effective in the western sphere.
The video i posted explains it and i can only recommend any artist watches that vid.

And if you don't want to actually talk about art, what the fuck are you doing here?

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now i wonder what happened to this guy

>> No.6907494


Almost at 3M on yt
hmmmmmmmmm if only someone would have explained why this guy's stuff is so popular hmmmmm

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>Open webm, girl is about to show tits
>Knowing the artist, Im 100% expecting to see anything but tits
>I see tits
Never in my life I've been so thrown back, almost terrified, by tits of all things.
When did this guy start making actual NSFW?

>> No.6907549

He's Colombian. I am too. This guy reached the top or is very close to it. In our third world economy, he could already live like a king with just his Youtube money. Now with patreon, this dude may as well be between the richest people in my country or at least 5%. He probably already retired his parents and owns several properties around the country. Probably living off that and not art anymore.

>> No.6907557

>here is a video that somewhat touches on the subject
I hate fucking weebs so much, the only real high culture on earth is the one of the white man from western Europe. Japanese wabi-sabi bullshit is the same as african wooga-booga.
And im not even arguing in my own favor on this one, im not white, im russian.

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>Go on Graphtreon
>Estimated monthly earnings: 8k - 25k a month

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>When did this guy start making actual NSFW?
Since he had a patreon?
He posts lewds and then paywalls the porn.
It's basic pornfag procedure.

>> No.6907673

I don't know why but out of all the twatter coomer artists, he pisses me off the most

>> No.6907687

I personally find your faces hugely appealing. You should get good at making the typical anime faces and whatever to improve your craft and all that, but for your regular art output please keep your faces. Or at least use them once in a while for effect like some mandala use chibi versions for effect. But please don’t totally get rid of what makes your characters so unique. (And imo appealing.) I’m unironically a fan of yours.

>> No.6907708

This was very interesting. Thank you for sharing.

>> No.6907721

If you can't see why the popular artists posted in this thread are so popular you're officially ngmi.

>> No.6907727 [DELETED] 

I know why
It just makes me angry.
Those "artists" are serving their coomer audience mcdonald's goyslop while we are trying to give them wagyu beef culinary masterpieces and they reject it
fuck them

>> No.6907731
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I know why
It just makes me angry.
Those "artists" are serving their coomer audience McDonald's goyslop while we are trying to give them wagyu beef culinary masterpieces and they reject it
fuck them

>> No.6907733

>we are trying to give them wagyu beef culinary masterpieces
go ahead and pyw, otherwise I'm going to assume your "culinary masterpiece" is a burnt dollar store steak with stolen ketchup packets.

>> No.6907778

He was good, but the minute he made it big, he just stopped doing art. It disgusts me that there's 17k patreons paying monthly for one art piece every 3 months.

>> No.6907780

bootlicking big shitty artists won't do anything for you.

>> No.6907789

Grinding appeal when it comes to graphic design takes a long time when you never once seriously paid attention to or cared about art until you picked up drawing

>> No.6907847
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a critique once told me that i should stick to drawing "mob faces" but sticking them on realistic rendered bodies, as seen here as an example he showed me. but i'll definitely balance it out, work on faces but still keep true to the old look of my style since im surprised people like it, i thought people were more annoyed but it if anything

>> No.6907873

Arguing for arguing's sake.

He saying your stuff ain't any better that's all. If you wanna act all high 'n might at least back it up

>> No.6907892
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I need to finish stuff more often lol. And if I'm honest, I've got a lot of improvement ahead of me.

my entire blog is just sketches. Luckily, I'm starting on good habits and finishing things. I am trying to finish atleast one full piece per 1/2 days.

with some more skill refinement you could be doing great honestly. Unique style.

>> No.6907916

Man thirdie artists really do have the right idea

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>> No.6908026

this guy is based, never thought Id see him post actual NSFW

hes capable of rendering at v high standard too but keeps the all the appeal with its much simplified form somehow

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ah yes
the high standard

kind of proves the previous point

>> No.6908070

Holy shit that looks fucking bad. It's fucking angers me that shit like this deserves more than a million following.

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no you dont get it
>pretty colors + booba
>= high quality work because it just looks like a photograph wow i can't even wrap my head around how talented this piece of art is wow omg the render

seriously tho
its alright for an anime girl floating in the void, but praising it for "le render", man... just to not say that a nigga likes dem titties

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Damn, you guys sure like to crab on popular artists for no reasonable purpose. Surely you guys wouldnt mind to pyw.
Calm your tits, Im not discussing about the artist's craft here, Im talking about you fags being the most disingenous and obnoxious people out there for reasons that are petty at best.
You talk about no standards and bad craft, as if only the art that you liked had any artistic merit and was part of the so-called "higher standards". You talk about good art and bad art, but your reasoning for it comes off as disingenous and biased, built upon envy and irrational anger.
>booba art cheap popular me no like
If you had anything insightful to say you would've pointed out something more tangible, like the shading, the composition of the faces, the styling, but no, it's just bad because your asses say so, it seems.
Im not calling this artist's art the best thing in the world, but I can certainly see the artistic merit of his craft: His rendering is pleasing and well detailed, the styling is appealing (more so in the faces), his animations are smooth, it's not a master by all means, but it's quite good to be called "terrible".

The guy who is blurring anything but tits? You're also wrong, faces are one of the most vital aspects in a portrait even in coom art. People dont want to just see tits, they want to see the face behind those tits. Faces and hands are where the viewer gets hooked the most due to these elements being the link for them to connect with the piece.

>> No.6908346

I said it once and I will say it again, bootlicking big shitty artists won't do anything for you.

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>didnt read
Thanks for proving my point of you guys being retards, now have a (You).

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>> No.6908384

Holy fuck, if this is so shit looking to you, post what actually looks good to you then. Otherwise, you just hate them because they actually made it

>> No.6908486

are you russian

>> No.6908506

Not exactly. why?

>> No.6908532
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>waaaaah crab ur mad and seething ur wrong because i say so art i like = good
>stop saying bad thing only praise allowed
>you just hate it because you dont like it fuckin puritan crab albino
>i like work because muh appeal and muh dick
You have to be 18 to post here
Because you fags are clearly missing the essence and the point of all this
>if you had anything insightful to say you would've pointed out something more tangible
>>"His rendering is pleasing and well detailed, the styling is appealing (more so in the faces), his animations are smooth"
Anon, if all you're getting from those posts is
Brother, you gotta stop trying to flex with another man's dick
>waah ur jelly
Same goes to you, kiddo.
You retards don't get that if people actually hated them, they would behave exactly like you faggots do.
>post something better
jap related has 450k on twitter despite the majority of his works having better designs, style and compositions
max likes he gets is around 20k-ish
But why you might ask? Because complexity doesn't do well with westerners and it doesn't have
>le epic realistic render
Which more or less solidifies every point that has been made before about the general audience not knowing quality if it raped their mouth and came down their throats

You gotta stop calling everyone crabs because they say things you aren't comfortable with

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I dont understand why people pull this rhetoric every single time. God forbid you criticize someone's poor argument against something because you are received with strawmen posts and screeching about how you are being a bootlicker even if the original post wasnt in defense of the work.

These people dont pull a compelling argument and when you point at the flaws on their argument while asking them to be more insightful, they double down on the autism. Im not going to humor your argument of bad faith and stupidity, keep hating for the sake of it, you're the one affected by it.

Not even giving you the (You)

>> No.6908567
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I had the exact same reaction. Absolutely based for him though
>person who spends vast majority of time animating isn't good at rendering
Wow. Who would have thought.

>> No.6908575
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>What exactly is stopping (you) from such success, anon?
I'm very bad at drawing so I only do it to create visual representations of my thoughts for myself.
I'm not quitting my dayjob anytime soon. Drawing is just a thing on the side I do for my own enjoyment.

>> No.6908587

Im slow and lack confidence
My output wouldnt let me become popular

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>> No.6908596

>You'd have a point if manga wasn't popular in the west too.
Anime is what is popular, Manga sells because it happens to be the source material for Anime.

>> No.6908601

Wow, this looks like shit as well. I thought you were on to something, but i guess not. A retard like you is just spouting mindless dribble.

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I don't understand why people pull this rhetoric every single time. God forbid you dare say not-praise upon something others seems to like for the lowest common denominator because you are received with strawmen and screeching about how you are a crab and jealous and seething, even if the original post wasn't about the artist in the first place.

These people don't show any signs of intellectual maturity or even reading comprehension, when you point out that logical fallacies in their emotional baby tantrums, they double down and use their ignorance as a virtue. I'm not going to humor your "argument" out of ignorance, keep being a toddler for the sake of it, you seem to be quite seething for the only reasonable reason that you seem affected by someone else not thinking exactly like your illiterate ass.

Not even worthy of a (you)
>isn't good at rendering

>> No.6908647

>Anime is what is popular, Manga sells because it happens to be the source material for Anime.

This doesn't mean anything in the context of the conversation, if it's even true. The original assertion was that westerners "see shapes and colors" based on that they shouldn't have any interest in the manga whether they've seen the anime or not. The MCU didn't do shit for comics sales.

>> No.6908648

> God forbid you dare say not-praise upon something others seems to like for the lowest common denominator
You really are an autistic retard. Both of these shits are the lowest common denominator. The lack of self-awareness you have is funny, you’re part of the problem

>> No.6908650

children playpen-ass thread

>> No.6908665

Ok, cool.
Now elaborate on your statement.

>> No.6908669

>still trying to argue that the exception breaks the rule
>based on the fact that westerners tend to go for minimalism for visual information
>"yy-y--y-yeah but how come they like anime? checkmate"
You are a fucking retard, mate.

>> No.6908684

You are right about people sucking up on popular shitty artist, but the fact the artist you posted yourself is trash as well makes you look like a faggot. Both artist got popular for attracting the lowest common denominator.

>> No.6908694

Wait til you find out how much money he makes despite going several months without uploading

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>the artist you posted is trash
Based on what and can you elaborate on why that work is trash?

You can't compare artist if they're not in the same genre of content, and objectively, the one i posted creates better works, so the numbers don't add up.
Why is the other artist making lower skill works more successful than the other one?
The only noticeable difference is indeed the "render" and the complexity of the artwork itself and has time has shown, normies are suckers for anything that remotely emulates real life lighting.
>people sucking up to artist
This wasn't ever any of my points.

This is the clear point that although one work is better than the other, the general audience, prefers the work with the "render", although being inferior, wich ties to the initial point that westerners generally tend to go for minimal visual information, which manifests itself in bare titties floating in the void, which become the focus of any given artwork like that, hence people generally tend to like such works because of the lewds, not because of the skill.

Liking a picture for the "render" is an excuse made by non-artist who believe art must replicate reality or else it's bad or to just not admit that they like it for the titties.

If "render" would be the ultimate factor upon which is decided if a picture is of "high quality", then try to decipher the mystery of pic related.

>> No.6908744

Im kinda losing faith in myself, bros.
My art doesnt seem to get better and i dont know how to practice anymore, Depression is killing me.

I got one commission, some anon believed in me and i delivered but now i dont feel so confident anymore.

>> No.6908754

i think they don't understand the nature of Teleporte's work at all, he did one short animation everyday for a year, and he kept it interesting both on a technical level and its content. That's one animation a day for 365 days. The rendered artwork is secondary and entirely separate skill in my opinion. Very few independent animator is capable of keeping up with the quality of his animation at that scale of output, even if you think it looks like scribbles and little experimental pieces. animation is one of those things that beg always underestimate how much skill and work it entails.

while I am disappointed that I have never seen him go on to do more substantial projects, I still think it is not a good comparison to one listed in OP.

>> No.6908763

Anon, how many times do i have to say that although i am using that guy as an example to make points, it ain't about this guy as an artist, it's about the singular works and how they are received.

I am being objective, no matter how many times i get accused of crabbing by kiddies and trannies.

>> No.6908767

>it ain't about this guy as an artist

how their work is received is tied to the audience they have built as an artist.

>> No.6908773

exactly, so; "making lewds an artist has attracted a coomer audience, therefore the works are liked for being lewds, not for the skill"

This still isn't about the artist himself.

>> No.6908780

that doesn't make sense at all, and also, my contention is that he is a skilled animator that consistently put out interesting content.

>> No.6908788

burn out eventually caught up with him and it hit hard!

>> No.6908809

Gib soss

>> No.6908825

if my post don't make sense, then your previous post is a non-sequitur

What were you trying to say? Just stop shitposting and speak like your mama made you

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>> No.6908836

Didn’t read anything other than last sentence and I have no idea what you’re fighting about but left pic is coomable and focuses on the girl. I’m sure much of his audience is also familiar with her design. It’s also relatable to the average person and their fantasies, imagine your gf with giant tits sending you a selfie in the morning. Funny captions also contribute to how much a tweet explodes. Sex + humor sells

The right pic is more like promo art, it’s not supposed to be super sexual and doesn’t have much vitality potential. It’s also freelance commissioned work (?) which doesn’t get as much attention relatively to non commission art. It’s just a random cool fantasy woman

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>> No.6908851
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>it's because titties
And there you have it. Was that so hard?

>> No.6908855

Right girl still wouldn’t go viral if her boobs were out though. But yes, it boils down to coomability

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>it boils down to coomability
that's what i've been saying all along

>> No.6908867

there are a lot better porn artist who are also more welling to do more degenerate shit, but never achieved the same level of success. There are a lot more to cultivating an audience than just this one aspect in my opinion. If it you can attract an audience by just drawing boobs I should have swimming in cash by now.

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>> No.6908872

Oh, well then you’re right. Like I said I didn’t read anything but the last sentence. But that’s also why there are coom artists who never blow up, despite drawing porn and having similar skill levels to their more popular peers, their art has low coomability potential and appeal

>> No.6908875

hey, I did not say I was skilled, I was just saying that there are a lot more to cultivating an audience than drawing lewd.

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>> No.6908894

well, what do you want me demonstrate?

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Yes, there are even better artist on this board who create better works, but somehow don't reach a fraction of those numbers, for some unknown reason, yet many claim the success of those who are that successful to incredibly silly reasons like "having skill" even when it obviously isn't the case.
If we were to single out the why telepurte had this big of a success, it would be a mix of lewds aimed at a younger audience, pandering to the lowest common denominator and having nsfw on his patreon, plus a youtube channel where he makes the sillies to redirect other younger audiences to his other socials, covering multiple potential audiences.
In the end, it's pandering to a rather young audience who doesn't know the difference between an ass and a mouth that are the cause of success to these creators.
The same is true for any of the very big youtubers which content basically boils down to jingling keys.

So, if anyone wanted the secret recipe to "make it" on social media, it's just; "exploit younger audiences and lonely males with lewd content."

Don't pyw btw
They just want to shit on you

>> No.6908908

my art gets 1-3 likes on average on twitter

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all me, i like your art anon

>> No.6908919

i felt like you ignored half of my point, but ok.

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you could have just said "sex sells" you pseud

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i didn't, i just added unto it
Yes, and wouldn't it be fun to then have the same back and forth and getting called a coomer schizo.
What's the point in posting anything if things have to be boiled down to absolutist takes, shitflinging and dick measuring competitions?

I would literally start committing violent crimes if i could not be able to challenge my own ideas.

>> No.6908938

Well, my question was, why doesn't it work for everyone?

>> No.6908949

It doesn't "work for everyone" because "sex sells" SOMETHING, and you have to have that something in order to sell it. This is why for instance, anyone doing off-model porn of popular characters will get clicks, because it is like running a franchised business and someone already did your marketing. Being skilled is just part of the mix. You could be mediocre, as you well know and resent, and still have a large audience, if you do erotic fanart and post actively.

>> No.6908950

Because you ain't following the same steps as the other guy and covering multiple bases or you're lacking certain cheats i.e. having your own discord group or bots boosting your posts.
One thing you must accept is that 80% of social media activity is fake as fuck and meaningless and trying to boil it down to anything besides the lowest common denominator, is pretentious and honestly dimwitted as fuck.

You, as in a general sense, not you personally.

>> No.6908972

what am I supposed to study from this and learn?
Appeal? How do I grind appeal?

>> No.6908986
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Drawing smut seems the way to go for the Patreon pipeline

>> No.6909045
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How do you go about gaining followers? Do you create a profile for different platforms and shill yourself that way? Post here and hope you gain traction?

>> No.6909071

This image is poetic. It succinctly sums this whole discussion up and illustrates wordlessly how success/popularity must be sacrificed if you respect art. Definitely saving it for later.

>> No.6909076

It's something you have to be born with.
There's a reason why the word perma/beg/ exists, the majority of people will bang their head against the wall, grinding and drawing for 10 years and still shit out garbage. While some asian will pick up a pen one day and master drawing in a year.

>> No.6909078

Are you retarded? Being popular on social media =/= success, the jap artist gets tons of industry work and has it plastered all over his twitter. He still has 100k followers too.

>> No.6909084

The right guy's 100k is nothing compared to left's 1.1m, and I'd bet my right arm that he has to work an order of magnitude higher to even approach the $12K/month minimum Patreon earnings that the left guy does. Being popular on social media =/= success, sure, but there is definitely a correlation between the two.

>> No.6909130

False and ngmi pilled
The way to start out grinding appeal is to find popular or famous artists, pick out the styles that really speak to you, and then try to emulate their work. Look at your work and compare it to theirs and try to see where you're going wrong and why they made the design choices that they did

>> No.6909142

>>based on the fact that westerners tend to go for minimalism for visual information

This is the vaguest most horseshit sentence typed in this entire thread. What are you even basing this on? Post some examples.

>> No.6909149

Japanese industry work means minimal pay.

>> No.6909180

my self-esteem is too low to succeed at art

>> No.6909188

You just need a support system of people who actually want the best for you and to see you succeed

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>> No.6909966

Because i've got TEARS IN THE MORNING

>> No.6909980

My politics. Art world is excessively liberal. My personality is tainted by pol so I can't gain any followers.
>inb4 just don't broadcast them
>it's too late for me
>my ideas and writing isn't progressive enough for them
I'm just going to focus are getting better at art for myself. No one actually likes to see new ideas. They just want the same regurgitated goyslop.

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It's not good regardless. I'll post when I don't suck.

>> No.6910076

Makes me wonder why dudes like Yoh Yoshinari and Sushio don’t open up a Patreon or Pixiv Fanbox thing.

>> No.6910078

He has one for studio trigger as a way to finance his projects, you know, to make more cartoons.

>> No.6910274

What an absolutely retarded take. No wonder people cheer for ai's replacement of (you).

>> No.6910521
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I feel like sometimes i just spent too long fucking with one image.

>> No.6910540

Hard to build habits and git gud when my job sometimes requires me to work like 80 hrs/week. Unless I simply don't sleep.

>> No.6910678

What the fuck do you do?

>> No.6910715
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>What exactly is stopping (you) from such success, anon?

Despite nearing 10k followers my fans practically refuse to support anything I do despite a guarantee of getting what they followed me for

>> No.6910733
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What would finance his projects is Trigger making kino like it used to and like Gainax used to and everyone buying it up. This horseshit trend they're on of doing character development anime where there is no action like Kiznaiver, which I love, but why are they doing it? Other studios excel at character driven pretty pieces; leave that to them. SSSS Gridman doesn't count because all the action is done in CGI and only the characters are real anime. From the sound of it "Delicious in Dungeon" is a wholesome manga about cooking so it looks like we're years away from a good Trigger-action anime even if they start tomorrow.

>> No.6910816

Well, let's just say Valentine's Day, Mother's Day and Dia de Muertos are the bane of my existence.
>tfw I have been working for 16 hours and we are not done yet

>> No.6910883

>Delicious in Dungeon
I mean, yeah, it's comfy, but things get kinda fucked up later on. It also picks up on action later on, but it takes a while.

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I’d correct you and say it’s talent, but his style isn’t even that good. I’ve seen random sheep on Newgrounds make hotter coomerbait.

I think Bacun would’ve been a better example. His talent is ACTUALLY an unobtainable goal that he just channeled on a whim when he was a teen

>> No.6910897

You’re probably Latino.

>> No.6910944

My heart bleeds in envy for this style. It looks like a keyframe drawn by a professional animator. It hurts looking at everything I’ve always wanted

How did you get this far self-taught? What did you study and from where? I need to know everything.
How old are you so I can know how much time I’ve wasted lacking the talent to be you?

>> No.6910953

to be successful at art (make lots of money), you have to embrace shameless depravity (draw degenerate porn). i'm not that shameless.

>> No.6911033

i paint what Iwant theway I want, my goal is togive notoriety tolessee known characters and ideas, never been a sellout whore, the very few paid commissions I did are for peoplethat live nearby

>> No.6911077

Because I have integrity and wouldn't stoop to such low levels.
Seriously what the fuck are these???

>inb4 pyw
No you pyw first asshole

>> No.6911837
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Your first guess was closer as I am caucasian and European.

beware, sketches and unfinished things galore.

Haha its funny you say that because I really do want to do animation above all else, but I have been sinfully lackluster in producing anything of quality this past year.

>How did you get this far self-taught?
It was sort of a tutor teaching me how to be self-taught if that makes sense? He gave me a book that he used in his adolescence to learn, told me to draw references and then compare my drawing the result to train my eye. Thats mostly all that I did for my studying. That along with studying constructive methods for the human body and jump from method to method to eventually create my own amalgamation-method of everything I've learned.
>What did you study and from where?
In this order Gottfried Bammes (extremely well defined forms for beginners) -> Micheal Hampton (lots of constructive details for the human body) -> Bridgman (Only to understand movement and gesture, I would not recommend studying him for anatomy) then vilppu around the same time for the same reason as bridgman, but vilppu has good movement and methodology + anatomy.
>How old are you so I can know how much time I’ve wasted lacking the talent to be you?
21 in about two months. I started when I was 17/18. And a lot of it is about really using your mind when you learn. Never autopilot while learning, and never force yourself to draw for too long periods of time. I only did on average 1-2 hours a day study for that time frame.

And dont be so self-deprecating. I promise you wherever spot you are in now I was there as well. Most I could draw was a box in perspective. My everything-else sucked balls, and you can absolutely get here if you just put in the consistency and dedication. And one final piece of advice is to not get lost in study. Dont forget to reignite your soul with a personal piece however often your heart desires it, anon.

>> No.6911974

I meant to finish it with; this is just my experience, and I dont think I'm an artist you should idolize as I have a lot I'm still improving on myself, and there are plenty of others out there with much great mastery in craft. Whatever the case, you got this anon.

>> No.6911990

I'm willing to pay up to 100 dollars to anyone who tells me a brush that looks similar to >>6904150
in clip studio paint

>> No.6911992

Now pay up

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>> No.6912163

because im not good enough

>> No.6912175

This isn't even the hard round brush. It's literally the pencil tool with basic pressure dynamics / G-Pen with antialiasing disabled.

>> No.6912329
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If you can't tell at a glance what default fucking brush that is in CSP you have alot more shit to be worrying about. This board is beyond saving if the average anon is as /beg/ and as retarded as you are.

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>> No.6912583

ya te vi KCat. You've already been exposed once

>> No.6912627

>Came out in 2016
Holy fuck I feel old.

>Kill La Kill first aired in 2013
>Exactly 10 years ago
God. My feels.

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I'm too lazy and shy to really promote myself. I barely show my drawins irl to anyone, and the only place I post my shit is on 4chan and deviantart.
Plus I don't think that I am even really good enough to make money with drawings and I doubt that my brand of autistic worldbuilding is all that interesting to other people.

>> No.6912856

I didn't realize Kiznaiver was from 2016, wow. I'm stoked for Delicious in Dungeon even though I don't know anything about it other than it has been praised some. It would be nice if Trigger expanded so they could release a new anime with high quality in shorter timeframes. I'd really like to mainline it.

>> No.6913040

Use your skills to finish this series

>> No.6913291
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And Scott Malin will be more relevant than you ever will be in your sad pathetic life, cope.

>> No.6913303
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What the FUCK is that face?

>> No.6913421

wrong there is no limit to our minds anon

>> No.6913437

>follows hornyposting minors
Ok pedo

>> No.6913448

>"relevance" determines success

>> No.6913451

who? Is this bait?

I tend to instafollow when I see good art and havent considered that this might occur lol

>> No.6913462

Ok the fact that he makes porn make sense, but is shit like this extremely old? If he drew his porn in the same style he draws his pinups on IG it would look much better

>> No.6913463

Ah, I think I found one. If there are others please let me know.

>> No.6913660

Cinder’s been worming his way into hentai circles and +18 discord servers since he was 14. A lot of furry coomers don’t care when they follow him

>> No.6913737

>pic rel
please say syke, what's the link ? I need to see with my own eyes this has to be a joke

>> No.6913819

I see

>> No.6913854

He draws CP of Naruto and Boruto characters

>> No.6913986

475k yeah

>> No.6914147
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>trying to flex on some anon with another man's dick
>implying anyone but coomers and kiddies will ever give a shit about this guy
>implying anyone but hot glue enthusiasts will buy that figurine
>literally whoring out to porn addicts on social media
>guy isn't even actually relevant, he just makes slop
I'd say post your work so you can flex with your own dick on that anon but it's obvious you don't draw

>> No.6914312

>[spoiler]ing on a red board
I thought that was snoot for a second there

>> No.6914339

hacks and shitters ruining Patreon and all pay wall sites

>> No.6914389

I'm pretty sure he also just released a 100 page all ages graphic novel on kickstarter too that did very well

>> No.6914487

Friend of mine thought the same, and thanks to that I fell into the snoot game rabbit hole
>>[spoiler]ing on a red board
I spend too much time on blue boards and it shows.

>> No.6914537

Drawing porn is illegal in my country (south korea) Kidmo is now a registered sex offender because he drew nude adult woman on fanbox

>> No.6914659
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south korea guy

>> No.6914805
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Is this just another case of not censoring art enough?
How else do all the Pornwha's get away with it?

>> No.6914990
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Reminder you don't need any sort of skill to "make it"

>> No.6915116

If you think there is no skill involved you're NGMI

>> No.6915121

I just googled it. Kidmo was arrested because he drew depiction of minors and copyrighted his pictures using his real name

Porn manhwa has to be censored so every part of the penis and vagina is whited out

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Isn't it just the distribution? KJG drew a lot of pornographic and other graphic content and there are movies with graphic sex scenes that get a pass for being classified as movies.

It is the concrete distribution/sale of obscene/pornographic content that is illegal.
It's basically the Obscene Publication act.
Although, you fags could circumvent that law if instead of just doing porn for the sake of porn, you built around something else, much like some movies did back then in the US/EU.

>> No.6915419

You're tastes are pure ngmi shit

>> No.6915644

What about painting? Are Korean fine artists allowed to draw and paint erotic nudes or is that banned too?