/beg/ & /int/ - Beginner and Intermediate Thread

[Anonymous No.6866969]

Vilppu edition

If you are a /beg/inner or /int/ermediate in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
Use this thread instead of making new threads or post in the drawthread with fundamental exercises.

>READ THE STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
Old: http://www.squidoo.com/how-to-draw-learn
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
>TRY TO BE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK.
When giving feedback, avoid vague "advice" - point what's wrong and try to give the anon you're quoting a clear direction
to improve their art (study heads < watch THIS VIDEO about head structure, read THIS SECTION of THIS ARTIST'S BOOK, etc).
You, feedback seeking anon, should also try to be clear and concise when asking for critique/help.
When posting your artwork, say what you want help with, and what's your goal with the study/artwork.

previous thread: >>6864242

[Anonymous No.6866971]

>Prepare for drawing
>Take out all the utensils
>Open up the artbook/course
>Immediately hit with a wave of anxiety and badfeels
>Feel physically uneasy just thinking about the task at hand
>Quit and go procastrinate

How do i not do what i just done did described above.

[Anonymous No.6866972]

>>6866971
Suck it up and do it anyways.

[Anonymous No.6866974]

>>6866972
what if i don't have the strenght of character necessary to overcome the human inputs and am merely a cattle slave to the chemical whimsies of my body and mind.

[Anonymous No.6866975]

>>6866971
Just give up, you're never going to make it
stop complaining here and find another hobby

[Anonymous No.6866976]

>>6866975
>you're never going to make it
i want to do that though.
the thought of just giving up makes me pretty sad.

[Anonymous No.6866979]

>>6866976
cry here every day about it until you get old and die or until this place ceases to exist

[Anonymous No.6866981]

>>6866979
can't i just get over my mental hang-ups and go do it and be happy that i did do it and achieve a happy ending.
Or is that not possible in the hell reality and only happens in movies. I hope it isn't that what i just said it is

[Anonymous No.6866982]

>>6866976
boohoo nigga, you cant even draw for 10 minutes and you want to make it
completely delusional, just gtfo

[Anonymous No.6866983]

>>6866982
>boohoo nigga, you cant even draw for 10 minutes and you want to make it
accurate but depressing

can it really not be changed, damn

[Anonymous No.6866984]

>>6866974
Then nothing can be done

[Anonymous No.6866985]

ignore the nodrawers, dont give them attention
post drawings. an apple to start the day

[Anonymous No.6866986]

>>6866976
>>6866983

[Anonymous No.6866987]

>ignore the nodrawers, dont give them attention
>post drawing
sorry. I would draw if i could but i'm just straight up retarded

[Anonymous No.6866988]

>>6866983
Draw anyway. Put that on a sticky note and look at it every time the brain worms get noisy, and draw anyway.

[Anonymous No.6866991]

Draw this.

[Anonymous No.6866990]

>>6866986
Do you want me to fill it out or what? What's the deal here.
I'm not the brightest in the bunch you're gonna have to excuse that

[Anonymous No.6866992]

>>6866990
Look at it.

[Anonymous No.6866993]

>>6866992
Done, what about it.
Was it meant to make me contemplate the wasted time or the time remaining? I already do that daily while indulging my adhd retard autism by listening to two things at once and playing a videogame at the same time.
I just zone out and pay attention to neither of the three while thinking about how fucked everything is.

[Anonymous No.6866994]

>>6866993
You're so special for thinking that everything is fucked. You're definitely the only one here dealing with that. Poor anon. Couldn't even draw some warmup lines because of his distress..

[Anonymous No.6866999]

>>6866994
I was talking mostly in regards to myself. The world at large is pretty fucked too i guess, i just don't usually think in that scale.
I'm not dealing with anything actually real and serious other than the trapings of my own tortured mind.
Its mostly just narcissism. There were like three main types of narcissism and one of those made you complain a lot but always center yourself as a messiah tortured soul type figure. That's the one i got.

Trust me though, if i could i would say nothing and just work away on getting the skillz. Sadly i was not built as much of a doer more of a complainer.

[Anonymous No.6867000]

>>6866991
okey me go draw now

[Anonymous No.6867004]

>>6867000
nice

[Anonymous No.6867005]

Sorry for the /fag-shit but I need quick feedback. Does this rendering style look ugly?

[Anonymous No.6867007]

>>6867005
No way to tell without seeing the whole picture

[Anonymous No.6867009]

>>6867007
It's not finished. I'm trying out a painterly style

[Anonymous No.6867013]

>>6867005
>>6867009
ugly, hideous even

[Anonymous No.6867014]

>>6867013
Tanks for the feedback, sir

[Anonymous No.6867015]

>>6867005
You are on /ic/, won't find a faggiest place than this shit.

>>6867009
I think you should have more hard edges.

[Anonymous No.6867017]

>>6867009
I think you're not hue shifting enough and values a bit all over the place. I would suggest taking the marco bucci pill on color in shadow

[Anonymous No.6867019]

>>6867007
>>6867009
Pretty good anon but it does need nipples. Puffy ones, preferably.

[Anonymous No.6867032]

>>6866991
Nice warm up.

[Anonymous No.6867036]

>>6867005
>>6867009
yep It's muddy and ugly. Stop zooming in and noodeling around too early.

[Anonymous No.6867039]

Is this a good start for 30 second gestures?

To be honest I haven't researched the what, how and why yet, I was just curious what I could get down in 30 seconds

[Anonymous No.6867042]

>>6867039
need more confidence in your lines

[Anonymous No.6867051]

>>6867042
what does that mean

[Anonymous No.6867067]

drawing seems like too much work.

[Anonymous No.6867070]

>>6867051
Practice getting smoother and more confident lines. Right now they seem jagged. If you're more confident with the lines and the gesture you're going for, you can do more in the 30 seconds, and by extension be much better with more time given.

[Anonymous No.6867072]

>>6867070
What a shit piece of advice.

[Anonymous No.6867074]

>>6867039
https://youtu.be/aOtVUHgJqQk?si=V5fviM65aAKngwHi

[Anonymous No.6867079]

>>6867072
I tried. Please give a better advice if you can. We're all trying to improve here.

[Anonymous No.6867081]

>>6867072
rude

[Anonymous No.6867083]

>>6867072
Explain to the class why that advice was bad.

[Anonymous No.6867095]

[Anonymous No.6867117]

>>6866991
wow...he is literally me

[Anonymous No.6867124]

I'm autistic, with ADHD. I can't focus on trying to get better at all or even come up with anything to draw without just giving up and going back to looking at my phone and doing something else.
I've legitimately never been able to commit myself to any serious hobby and have gotten lazy over the years with my only actual one which is writing and the only reason I'm good at writing is because I wanted people to be able to understand what the fuck I was saying and I wanted to write good stories because I thought I'd never be able to make them in a visual medium, but that's it. I've never been able to commit to a serious routine, schedule, or anything. I just sit in my room online doing basically nothing.
Everything I try doing looks so daunting and impossible. I tried learning Source Filmmaker as a teen and I gave up immediately because it looked too complicated. I tried learning how to make my own games in game maker, gave up immediately and never touched it. Even something like drawing just looks so complex and impossible. This is what it's like for everything I try doing.
I'm giving myself an ultimatum. I want to become a good visual artist like I've always wanted to, otherwise I'm offing myself. I'm giving myself a year. What are some guides I should follow?

[Anonymous No.6867131]

Not sure what I was thinking with this, but it happened.

[Anonymous No.6867136]

>>6867095
kek, sovlful

[Anonymous No.6867140]

>>6867124
Are you a student? Do you have a job? I have similar mental illnesses and in my opinion nothing is worse than having all the time for yourself. Like no shit, of course you cannot commit to a routine when there is zero motivation to do so. I could never sleep well but I got a job and alas I woke up in the morning easily.

As for you problem, Im in a similar rut myself, Im a bit shy to give advice because that would be like a virgin redditor giving advice on getting a girlfriend, but you shouldnt take it seriously. Just pick up the pencil and draw like a retard.

[Anonymous No.6867150]

>>6867124
USE YOUR OWN BRAIN STOP RELYING ON ADVISE FROM STRANGERS NIGGER! USE YOUR BRAIN MY GOOOOOOOD HOW COME ZOOMERS ARE UNNABLE TO THINK FOR THEMSELVES I'M TIRED OF THESE SCHIZOPOSTS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.6867154]

is this a shortcut? to just copy a meme face from an anime and drawing a mediocre body, also probably copied from somewhere else. lazy/clever?

I recognized the expression, having saved it earlier. he got lewd uncenscored versions paywalled on his patreon with hundreds of members

[Anonymous No.6867156]

>>6866986
>one third of the way through
>still a virgin
Proko videos for this feel bros?

[Anonymous No.6867157]

>'m autistic, with ADHD. I can't focus on trying to get better at all or even come up with anything to draw without just giving up and going back to looking at my phone and doing something else.
>I've legitimately never been able to commit myself to any serious hobby and have gotten lazy over the years with my only actual one which is writing and the only reason I'm good at writing is because I wanted people to be able to understand what the fuck I was saying and I wanted to write good stories because I thought I'd never be able to make them in a visual medium, but that's it. I've never been able to commit to a serious routine, schedule, or anything. I just sit in my room online doing basically nothing.
>Everything I try doing looks so daunting and impossible. I tried learning Source Filmmaker as a teen and I gave up immediately because it looked too complicated. I tried learning how to make my own games in game maker, gave up immediately and never touched it. Even something like drawing just looks so complex and impossible. This is what it's like for everything I try doing.
>I'm giving myself an ultimatum. I want to become a good visual artist like I've always wanted to, otherwise I'm offing myself. I'm giving myself a year. What are some guides I should follow?

[Anonymous No.6867163]

>>6867131
Also did this today. Not using black lines was a bit awkward, but also fun.

[Anonymous No.6867191]

>>6867163
cute

[Anonymous No.6867199]

>>6867154
What do you want us to say that you don't already know? Just someone getting money by providing a shitty service to coomers.

[Anonymous No.6867205]

draw

[Anonymous No.6867212]

>>6867205
lol wtf is this AI?

[Anonymous No.6867217]

>>6867212
yee

[Anonymous No.6867219]

>>6867217
awesome

[Anonymous No.6867226]

>>6867140
Yes to both. Still can't do anything. A higher dosage of adderall, anti anxiety medication making me shake less and another anti anxiety medications. This is on top of a booster dosage I'm taking each day too. My mind and my body locks up and prevents me from actually doing anything. Usually either out of anxiety or my mind and my body simply just locking up and telling me "What the fucks the point"? And just making me look back at my phone again or just stimming and staring at a wall.

Legitimately NOTHING has worked. I felt better for a week and then nothing. This has gone back all the way since I was a teenager too. I had thyroid problems that got fixed, but this never got any better.

I don't know how to get the motivation to do anything. Even when I do happen to try my hardest in doing something, it's always half as good or even just 2% as good as anybody else doing the same thing, because me being purely retarded and unable to learn or focus. Even when I try, nothing good happens. My entire body feels sore and I rest for the whole day. I've been working out for 2 years and lost 20 pounds as well.

So tell me, what the fuck should I do?

[Anonymous No.6867231]

>>6867226
here's an idea: do steroids i.e inject 250mg of T-cypionate deep into your deltoid twice a week for five (5) months

captcha: J08 4VR

[Anonymous No.6867232]

>>6867226
You don't 'get' motivation and then do something. You do something first and then get motivated to do more. Go read the big sticky and start drawing

[Anonymous No.6867235]

>>6867131
this is cool
>>6867163
this is shit

[Anonymous No.6867243]

>>6867235
Do you have an actual critique for him or are you just crabbing because you're lonely and miserable?

[Anonymous No.6867266]

>>6867235
wow thanks

[Anonymous No.6867273]

>>6867243
i just go by vibes really, 1st img hands are great, feel like pilotredsun, messy but sovl. 2nd img is just bad, shark is coming out of the water flat, wtf is she sitting/standing on, water is squiggles, etc

[Anonymous No.6867274]

day 76
anatomy is like a bottomless pit to learn
i actually did this yesterday but I waited for the new thread to post

>>6866972
why did paru draw this

>>6867005
it kinda does dawg

[Anonymous No.6867280]

Man i am so depressed its beyond belief. I'm going out for a long walk and then i'm drawing once i return. This time for real for true

[Anonymous No.6867290]

Not mine but I want to share.

[Anonymous No.6867294]

Won’t be drawing today, either.

[Anonymous No.6867297]

>>6867280
Another distraction.

[Anonymous No.6867299]

>>6867294
>>6867280
rangeban when?

[Anonymous No.6867302]

>>6867274
GMI bro, also go easy on the shoulder width on females unless you are intentionally drawing trans athletes

[Anonymous No.6867306]

>>6867299
This >>6867294 isn't me.
I do doompost too. Will stop soon, just cut me some slack, i'm nearing a breakthrough.

>>6867297
I actually do need that long walk or else i'll be a nervous wreck for the reminder of the day. The picture is adequate though.
I don't do any vices or drugs but i do need to walk off my anxieties every once in a while or else i can't function properly.

[Anonymous No.6867316]

>>6867306
par for the course for a spast/ic/

[Anonymous No.6867318]

>>6867232
Read the sticky, tried, got bored, ended up looking at my phone again and staring at a wall.

[Anonymous No.6867321]

>>6867318
quirky

[Anonymous No.6867322]

>>6867318
So don't draw and fuck off, what do you want from here, a fucking therapy? Get lost.

[Anonymous No.6867324]

>>6867318
are you at least a cute girl or just a regular mentally destroyed guy.
Just thank God that at least you aren't balding

[Anonymous No.6867327]

>>6867205
This ain't AI this is my friend big dundee doing the florida man challenge, it ends with raping crocodiles.

[Anonymous No.6867328]

>>6867322
aggressive, yet also ESL - i like it

[Anonymous No.6867329]

>>6867299
You sound triggered.

[Anonymous No.6867331]

>>6867322
>>6867321
>>6867324
Then you might as well say that I'm not interested in anything because I can't do anything. I do legitimately nothing all day and merely sit around, look at my phone, jerk off and go to sleep. I can't get the motivation to do anything else.

[Anonymous No.6867333]

>>6867331
>Then you might as well say that I'm not interested in anything because I can't do anything.
You aren't. Get a clue dude. This place is to for posting artwork and getting feedback. We can't make you do something you can't even get yourself to do. Your issues are personal and not drawing related. Seek help elsewhere. Preferably IRL. My first and final (you) to this howie faggotry.

[Anonymous No.6867336]

>>6867333
These faggots always think their issues make them special

[Anonymous No.6867337]

>>6867333
>This place is to for posting artwork and getting feedback.
Kek. This retard just puts his head in the sand about the crabs.

[Anonymous No.6867338]

>>6867333
I'm seeing a psychiatrist and my new dosages are not doing anything.

[Anonymous No.6867339]

Yeah, nobody cares.

[Anonymous No.6867352]

Started doing the drawabox rotated boxes

I have 0 feel for how I'm supposed to do this. I even grabbed a wooden cube and rotated it in my hand to try to cheat but it didn't really help. I get that "it's supposed to be too hard!!! Just do your best!!" but I cannot see the point in drawing in the rest of the fucking cubes when it's almost pure guesswork

[Anonymous No.6867353]

>>6867352
>he fell for the fundies meme

[Anonymous No.6867354]

shockingly few drawings in this thread guys
c'mon what are you in here for

[Anonymous No.6867358]

test

[Anonymous No.6867383]

>>6867354
im drawing dinos

[Anonymous No.6867385]

>this thread
yeah im out, you guys are beyond saving
good luck, never touching this shithole again

[Anonymous No.6867386]

Please stay

[Anonymous No.6867393]

>>6867386
nice...

[Anonymous No.6867395]

>>6867383
Nice hands!

[Anonymous No.6867404]

>>6867395
i will add the "boob rest on torso" line, TY

[Anonymous No.6867428]

>>6867354

[Anonymous No.6867443]

>>6867352
>guesswork

You have a literal cube in your hand, just close one eye and draw what you see. If you cannot measure the angles try again and again until you can.

[Anonymous No.6867446]

>>6867386

[Anonymous No.6867453]

>>6867131
If you want to get better at hands, the best thing to do is to get better at art in general. Hands are one of the hardest things to draw because they require all the fundies (perspective, construction, anatomy). As for hand specific advice, get good at drawing the general shapes first. Do it for a hand in a neutral position, fingers all pointing forward and no extreme perspective, while paying attention to the proportion of the shapes. Once you got that figured out, you can start with more complex poses.

>>6867039
the point of doing gestures is to find the most important info of a pose without getting bogged down in the details. This is the volume, position and rhythm of the body parts. Since you're just starting out, it'll probably take you longer than 30 seconds. Set your timer to something like 2 minutes at first but make sure you stick to it.

[Anonymous No.6867460]

Hello beg. This is the pain: pain of beg. Cannot believe how long this shit took me to make.

I am "okay" when drawing from reference and honestly with just that i could start making my art career. There are so many tools in 2030 that there is "always" a reference available. But i dont want to be just another drawer fraud. That isnt my style. I want to be able to draw with just a blank canvas and pen. The journey will be long and painful, i can already see it.

From today i will change the way how i study and practice drawing. And pick up figure books, starting with the most infamous one: fun with a pencil.

>>6867352
there is no feeling involved in this exercise. each cube is 100% defined by perspective rules. if you dont know these rules you need to read some perspective book + realize how shitty drawabox is for not explaining the rules to you
>>6867354
>>6867383
>>6867386
INT
>>6867163
the color of sky tends either to get darker / brighter the closer it is to the horizon, in your pic it would look way better if the sky above water was almost pure white. thumbs up for disgaea reference
>>6867154
no rules, only tools and fools
>>6867140
please stop replying to the copypasta. even if you are new there is very easy rule: if the post doesnt have work attached to it, it is not worth your time
>>6867039
these dont look like correct gestures to me at all. the wobbly lines suggest you are trying to draw them very slowly and carefully which is direct opposite of what you should be doing in this exercise: FAST and fluid
>>6867009
i think it will look way better when you finish it. keep painting.
>>6866985
how many apples do you paint in 1 session?

[Anonymous No.6867464]

>>6867385
See you tomorrow!

[Anonymous No.6867486]

>>6867460
lol is this rly OC? epic...

[Anonymous No.6867496]

>>6867460
this looks like one of those ai generated comics people are posting now on twitter

[Anonymous No.6867499]

>>6867352
using a wooden cube and your eyes is best
if you struggle, take pictures of the cube from different angles

[Anonymous No.6867500]

>>6867460
>fun with a pencil
lol can't wait to see your old men heads.

[Anonymous No.6867509]

Dude who talked about moving stuff to dining room.
Did so, it seems to be game changer. I cannot lie down and lazy around or whatever. I cannot also play music loudly and be cringe, because no door to block the noise, so less wasted time.
Time will show if it actually improves long-term or it's just me being hyped about change.

[Anonymous No.6867517]

>>6866971
literally push the pencil into the paper. stop thinking so much. just start

[Anonymous No.6867520]

>>6866971
Draw some bullshit everyday.
Start a habit first, then think learning things.

[Anonymous No.6867529]

>>6867443
>>6867460
>>6867499
It just weirded me out that the IRL cube didn't completely look like the ones drawn in the example, so I got a bit confused from it.

To be honest I can't imagine how anyone can take DAB seriously after this exercise.

I'll just do rotation studies of my wooden cube instead and use that to gain an "intuitive understanding" for now.

But first I'll regen my creative force by drawing other shit. Here's a woman I drew on the subway, she had sexy hair.

[Anonymous No.6867544]

Can someone tell me why this looks like utter garbage ? I know I messed up the shading, but if some anon could help with explaining why I'm approaching this wrong, I'd be very grateful.

[Anonymous No.6867563]

>>6867333
Nothing works. That's why I'm coming to here instead.

[Anonymous No.6867570]

>>6867563
on the bright side you won't kill yourself like you said in the previous thread, you'll be on your phone asking how to bring yourself to it and cry that nothing works

[Anonymous No.6867597]

>>6867570
I will. I've already got the deadline written down.

[Anonymous No.6867605]

>>6867597
Oh if you have it written down I suppose we can be absolutely certain you'll go through with it. The other anon must have not realized that you had it written down.

[Anonymous No.6867611]

>>6867597
Anyone who says they will kill themselves on a very specific date will not carry it out lol.

You cant even focus on a bunch of lines. You will not hold a mood/conviction for over a year.

[Anonymous No.6867618]

>>6867460
>And pick up figure books, starting with the most infamous one: fun with a pencil.
fucking based bro. Great gains await. Remember to do lots of figure drawing from reference too, and not just copy art books. A good follow up is "figure drawing for all it's worth"

[Anonymous No.6867623]

>>6867563
>>6867597
your only problem is having too high expectations of yourself, which leads to increased frustration and pressure.

You open source film maker and you feel overwhelmed, a reasonable expectation might be "I will try to create a blank scene" or "I will make one object move, that would be huge progress." You are not content with those small victories because your expectation is unrealistic. You are not pacing yourself properly. Instead of seeing what is next you are focusing on what is 10000 steps into the future. You come in with the expectation to create a cinematic masterpiece before even learning how to open a project.

[Anonymous No.6867628]

Amnyboyd have good tutotorials for drawing lips my mouths always loooked flat?

[Anonymous No.6867633]

>R:120 I:32
grim

[Anonymous No.6867634]

>>6867154
Hey, as long as it works.

[Anonymous No.6867637]

>>6867611
You want to bet?

[Anonymous No.6867642]

>>6867352
I mean if drawing cubes is pure guesswork for you, then it's probably a good idea to practice it a bit more.

[Anonymous No.6867644]

I understand now why so many artists are gay/bi, doing these poses a lot mindfucks you.

[Anonymous No.6867649]

>>6867623
No, my problem is that when I open source Filmmaker, not only am I overwhelmed, but I legitimately don't know how the fuck any of it works. The UI looks overwhelming, I can't figure out what the fuck I'm even doing, I can't figure out where anything is, I don't even know where to start. I'm legitimately a retard with the education of someone half my age. I don't even know basic trig or geometry and integrals. I want to do it, but I'm literally too retarded, overwhelmed and too lazy thanks to my fucking ADHD This is the same problem with literally everything that I've ever attempted to do.

What is even the first thing I should focus on when it comes to drawing? This is the only thing I can actually see myself doing outside of writing. Is it really too big of an expectation to do literally anything other than sitting my room, jerk off and go to sleep? Is that too big of an expectation to set for myself? Especially after 6 years of wanting to do it and never having done it?

[Anonymous No.6867653]

>>6867633
was this place ever not shit?

[Anonymous No.6867663]

>>6867544
overrendered, i.e. every small piece of the scene holds both your shadow tone and your highlight tone, without thinking of the bigger picture. more than likely the guy's whole back should be in shadow, or rendered in highlights/midtones. right now it looks like someone's beaming a bright flashlight square at his back instead of showing the more ambient, natural lighting spread through the room around him. color & light by charlie pickard talks about this in-depth and is a personal favorite art book, check it out
>>6867644
cute. really good gesture
>>6867460
vilppu gets on twice. even in comics there's no competition
>>6867274
lookin good

[Anonymous No.6867668]

>>6867628
sinex has a mouth video.

[Anonymous No.6867676]

>>6867649
Nothing will happen, no matter how much you rationalize it, if you never take the leap. Coach yourself through each step of picking up to placing the pencil on the paper if you really are that stunted.

[Anonymous No.6867684]

>>6867676
Yes but what do I start with?

[Anonymous No.6867687]

>>6867663
Thank you so much for the advice and the reference book, anon, I'll definitely check it out.

[Anonymous No.6867692]

>>6867684
draw what you are interested in

[Anonymous No.6867694]

>>6866302
>>6866641
>>6866669
I gave it another shot. This still feels totally alien compared to drawing boxes.

[Anonymous No.6867698]

Took a bit of a break because of my studies, pushed this out.
So /ic/ what should I do to improve

[Anonymous No.6867701]

>>6867698
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1lleIBzn3A

[Anonymous No.6867707]

>half of the thread is responding to the crying faggot
it's over

[Anonymous No.6867717]

Another day, another round of Burne Hogarth Studies.

I notice my proportions improving was not a fluke, I seem to be retaining my ability to more accurately (not perfectly of course yet) copy what I am seeing. That being said, still not great, definitely need to do more work with arms not feeling right still.

I can not by the life of me figure out how to do hands, they look awful still, and fingers are already challenging to do so the fact I can't draw hands properly is annoying!

I'll continue doing these, but am thinking of just following the Hide channel's Croquis method (and have been practicing a bit with those), but dunno where else to go now.

[Anonymous No.6867723]

>>6867698
flip your canvas

[Anonymous No.6867732]

>>6867717
I think this might be right up your alley https://www.youtube.com/@lovelifedrawing

[Anonymous No.6867739]

>>6867732
>https://www.youtube.com/@lovelifedrawing

Thanks.

For the record, I do wanna draw anime/stylized type characters eventually, but I know having a good grasp of anatomy is ideal. I can see that learning how to draw much of it is like exercising a muscle, you just gotta do it and gradually things will sorta stick? Provided you are using it properly.

Of course you still need to learn certain methods which can't come on their own.

[Anonymous No.6867742]

>>6867520
>>6867517
Will do. I really do wanna learn so i'll just have to stop being a fucking retard and just do it. Shutting up for now. Won't post again until i've drawn anything of note.

[Anonymous No.6867758]

>>6867717
if you're the same anon I redlined a week ago, I have to say, you've improved so so much. Keep doing what you're doing

[Anonymous No.6867764]

drew a back view

[Anonymous No.6867769]

>>6867764
gtfo out of beg you're demoralizing as shit

[Anonymous No.6867775]

>>6867764
Why on earth are all the leather straps different.

[Anonymous No.6867776]

>>6867775
Looks more interesting that way, while still working

[Anonymous No.6867783]

>>6867758

Ya mean this?

It means a lot to hear you say that to me!

I mean, I still feel it's not good but I just feel like I am more used to it now I guess? Like I don't feel like I am struggling so much and have more control over what my hand does.

The chicken scratch lines are bad tho I still have ways to go with doing smoother lines.

[Anonymous No.6867787]

>>6867776
Looks uncomfortable.

[Anonymous No.6867788]

>>6867694
Since I know how to draw boxes, is there a way for me to use this knowledge on gesture drawings?

[Anonymous No.6867798]

>>6866969
Remember everyone, draw skulls.

[Anonymous No.6867799]

>>6867717
Nice. If you like how Hogarth does things you should check out his Dynamic Hands book.

[Anonymous No.6867802]

>>6867787
Nah dude, as long as the straps connect to the armor its all good, it shoudnt matter unless a belt was at your where your hip is and was super tight, in which case youd get chafing

[Anonymous No.6867805]

>>6867788
>Since I know how to draw boxes

[Anonymous No.6867809]

>>6867694
completely different skillset, so that's natural. out of these the fourth is easily the best, the flow on that bent leg is better than i've managed recently, and you've removed the back of the calf and recognised it's not necessary for the eye to flow through the leg. try to avoid boxing things in as on the left, limbs can usually be represented by 1-3 lines flowing out in unison rather than trapping the eye at the end of the limb. what resources are you using?
>>6867698
agree on >>6867701 good course, fun with a pencil might also be good since it leads with "creating forms on a head" upfront
>>6867717
lovin the third across, great forms. keep your abdomen length in check since on some of these it looks a little long, it's usually better to be a little too short than too long since the interaction of forms around the ribcage and pelvis can create a nice visual experience

[Anonymous No.6867820]

>>6867809
Regarding >>6867717
Yeah it's something I gotta work on, still not great at doing more subtle curves and such.

[Anonymous No.6867821]

>>6867783
I'm glad I was able to help you, it's rare to feel like I made a difference. It's all you though. you were able to take and observe the forms better all on your own, so credit really goes to you

[Anonymous No.6867824]

>>6867820
Continuing I posted too soon.

I did struggle with forming the torsos with subtle curves and such, which is what I meant. I'll try to work on it but I do hope I can eventually shape arms and the bends in torsos better just at the moment my curves always look either too angular or too wide apart.

[Anonymous No.6867835]

>>6867821
It helped me see how they should be shaped more, though I think much of it was probably just me redoing a botched study, and when I redid it and fixed it...it's like I suddenly got proportions if that makes sense?

I gotta try and make the details on the bodies more complete like you did still, I'll see if I can try doing that at the end of the week.

[Anonymous No.6867874]

I can't post pics cause Range Ban, but here is an imgur with my studies
I am on a mission to study and do every single drawing in ''Point Character Drawing''

https://imgur.com/a/7lpn9fy

I am on page 49 out of 223 in around 6 days


Criticism is welcomed, and appreciated

[Anonymous No.6867875]

can someone redline my gesture on this guy, or just try the gesture in general? feels like lineofaction specifically hired him to make the hardest gesture shots possible, gives me constant trouble. imagining it's to do with getting enough tension in the biceps?

[Anonymous No.6867880]

>>6867874
might just be me but that's an empty imgur album

[Anonymous No.6867889]

Quick and without reference. Noticing I need less time to come up with poses, this used to take me way too long.

[Anonymous No.6867899]

>>6867880
My bad, seems I messed up the upload somehow

https://imgur.com/a/rT8fZmb

[Anonymous No.6867908]

i wanna give hyde a big ol hug

[Anonymous No.6867912]

>>6867899
I feel like I need this book. Do you feel like it's improved your work a lot? How does it compare to other books you've studied? (for example, Morpho or Bridgman)

[Anonymous No.6867922]

>>6867912
I haven't studied any anatomy books in the past so I don't have the knowledge to compare
But, I do find it very useful so far since its focused on the location and simplified shape of the muscles, proportions and how to find the location using other points in the body as reference
Its also pretty concise, not a lot of talking

I can now visualize in my mind the upper torso, obliques, neck, and arms, and feel I understand the volume and function a lot better, I imagine finishing the book would give be a strong foundation to then move onto more complex books or just give me the tools to better learn from gesture studies

The Book is free here
>>6853583

[Anonymous No.6867924]

>>6867809
I was trying to figure out what the best way to do things was by sampling what I could find, so it's a random smattering of things from perspective made easy, drawabox, krenz, and now the first few pages of vilppu.

[Anonymous No.6867929]

i feel like i fucked something up with his right shoulder but cant tell
does it look disconnected?

[Anonymous No.6867937]

>>6867929
I can’t tell what the problem is through all that chicken scratch. How about you learn some line confidence?

[Anonymous No.6867940]

>>6867937
nah fuck your retarded "muh confidence lines"
looks like it's fine then

[Anonymous No.6867943]

>>6867937
Wut, his sketch looks amazing what are you on about

[Anonymous No.6867956]

>>6867929
don't see anything wrong to my beg eyes, only thing would be that the sword might need to foreshorten more as it heads down under the arm, and maybe interact with the sleeve of the robe?

[Anonymous No.6867976]

>>6867874
hey im doing the same, although much slower! 2-3 pages a day. how are you so speedy?

[Anonymous No.6867977]

>>6867684
It really doesn't matter. You will either discover you actually like drawing, or get filtered.

[Anonymous No.6867978]

todays wip

[Anonymous No.6868018]

>>6867032
Ah this gorilla study is so aesthetically pleasing

[Anonymous No.6868020]

>>6867976
Based, yours looks way more appealing visually!
>how are you so speedy?
I think I was doing like 6 to 10 hours a day, DOOM/Bersek Soundtrack and a lot of coffee helps
Keep it up bro, how are you finding the book?

[Anonymous No.6868021]

>>6867124
Wellbutrin
Adderall
Ritalin

[Anonymous No.6868024]

>>6868021
Nah, Modafinil is where it is at. WellButrin, Adderall and Ritalin are too pleasurable and will make it more likely youn spend your time masturbating to cartoons
Modafinil instills in people the fear of death, and the neuroticism required to be disciplined, you'll be so anxious of sitting still and wasting time, only working will bring any peace to your mind

[Anonymous No.6868040]

>>6868024
Why does everyone have such good experiences on Wellbutrin? That was the medication that showed me how suicidal ideation can be a side effect. Modafinil helped me get out of indiana once on a car trip when I caught myself starting to dose off.

If I where you, autistic-adhdanon, I would try to minimize the amount of distractions first before going to medications. At best it will allow you to forgo taking meds, which cost money and can have odd side-effects. At worst it will help your productivity even more when on meds because you can focus on art instead of phone or whatever.

[Anonymous No.6868042]

>>6867978
Frenchie?
>>6867274
I love your studies. Please keep posting them to your Twitter.

[Anonymous No.6868044]

anybody save any int - pro art they found on /ic/?

[Anonymous No.6868045]

>>6867875
Broke it into shapes. See if that helps

[Anonymous No.6868047]

I am studying how legs work. Man! I have been enjoying those moments of "Oh shit that how that works." I have been getting while learning how to draw.

Also sorry about the shit photo quality, i use my laptop camera and do some basic adjustments to make the shits more legible. how do you all post photos of your drawings on paper to make them more legible?

[Anonymous No.6868049]

does anyone have the pdf for The Art & Science of Drawing - Brent Eviston

[Anonymous No.6868053]

Id like you guys to rate what level i am on.

[Anonymous No.6868054]

>>6868049
here, base64
aHR0cHM6Ly9saWJnZW4uaXMvYm9vay9pbmRleC5waHA/bWQ1PTlFMkNBQjE4MENFRjdDMjJEOEQwQzJBQzkyQThDREU3

[Anonymous No.6868055]

>>6868053

[Anonymous No.6868063]

>>6868020
youre a machine. my thoughts on it so far are great, ive learned more about the relationship between torso, shoulders, and surrounding upper region in the past 6 days than i have in over a year of fucking around. the lack of text can make it inviting but ive found there are sometimes questions I have that are not elaborated on.

I feel happy with the torsos im able to draw from imagination now, but then comes the things from chapters I havent reached yet and its back to potato land. overall feeling good. were gonna make it!

[Anonymous No.6868065]

doodle in between the shitty practices and studies

[Anonymous No.6868071]

>>6868054
thank you so much

[Anonymous No.6868076]

[Anonymous No.6868078]

starting to feel it, sometimes. very happy the two bottom-right, still struggling with main forms in dynamic poses though.

>>6868045
thanks, can definitely see more errors now. the whole center mass just kept looking like a brick to me
>>6868053
high beg, fun style with some weird anatomy around the arms particularly, perspective on the legs is off also. practice some more fundies

[Anonymous No.6868087]

Just got my copy of Drawing from Life from the mail. So, how long did copying this thing take you guys? Honest thoughts on the results after?

[Anonymous No.6868090]

>>6868063
Damn straight, bro. Don't stop until you finish the entire book! I won't stop either, and I agree with you, the book feels like it condenses a lot of information very well but for further details we'll have to move on into something more advanced later on

[Anonymous No.6868101]

>>6868040
Probably because Wellbutrin, like Adderall, tends to feel good just by virtue of increasing dopamine, perhaps you experienced anhedonia during the comedown and hence the suicidal ideation
But Wellbutrin is not idea to study at all, since its an acetylcholarase imhibitor, acetylcholine being an incredible important neurotransmitter for learning and memory formation, which is the same set of synapses which Nicotine acts on (Hence why it is prescribed for smoking cessation, and also the reason I use nicotine pouches while studying).

>If I where you, autistic-adhdanon, I would try to minimize the amount of distractions first before going to medications. At best it will allow you to forgo taking meds, which cost money and can have odd side-effects. At worst it will help your productivity even more when on meds because you can focus on art instead of phone or whatever.

This has been a point of contemplation for the last 10 years, and I still feel just on the fence on this idea as the first day. I don't know if ADHD is real, if I am simply not content with the card,s I've been given in life or if I am a completely normal individual asking for more than I should
But at the end of the day, there hasn't been a day I take Modafinil that I regret
The awareness of mind, the focus, the ability to maintain storylines through time as the day passes, the increase in memory and grit, the increase in visualization skills.

If you allow me to get cringy, it does feel like everytime I take Modafinil I ascend to a higher form, although from the outside perhaps it just looks like a retard needing to take pharma to do things most people can do with relative ease

Only thing I know, after 10 yearse on and off meds. I prefer the Me on the pharma. Things start to have meaning while on it

[Anonymous No.6868109]

>>6867701
What's the difference between his first and second course?

[Anonymous No.6868163]

Thoughts on these designs?

[Anonymous No.6868164]

>>6868087
took me a week to copy it, and 3 weeks for the memory draw. This was like drawing from morning to evening though

I improved a lot, but the Bridgman information sits in your head and continues to inform your art for a year to 2 years afterwards. My figures look more birdgman-y now than they did when I finished copying it, even though I haven't copied Bridgman since then

[Anonymous No.6868193]

>>6868163
Nice colors, they go together well. The one on the right is the better design. I think green could be pushed a bit more.

[Anonymous No.6868214]

>>6868164
What did you learn?

[Anonymous No.6868221]

day 77
I thought arms were my strong point, well it looks like I can't get them too lok right, something feels off when I draw them from the bones up and I don't know what it is

>>6868053
nearly /pro/, missing backgrounds and some final touches
>>6867978
very nice
>>6867929
i think it looks pro
>>6867663
thanks
>>6868042
thank you, it's just that I have an issue with posting studies because I don't know how to format them for a twitter post. I just draw randomly on a canvas and expand it when I need more space, so it doesn't have any meaningful composition and when I try to put together neatly I get decision paralysis on how I should put it together, what to omit where to place stuff etc
>>6866991
right on, one of the coolest references yet, great composition, wasn't able to capture how cute and soft the colors of the chair look, I probably should have started coloring from the chair outwards

[Anonymous No.6868246]

How do i avoid my taste in men rubbing off on my character designs?
I always thought I was immune to the coomerism I see in male cartoonists where they're more inclined to draw women a certain way and I've recently realized I do the same damn thing with men. I'm ashamed.

[Anonymous No.6868338]

>>6868221
Just post the canvas with a comment. Have you seen other accounts? They do exactly the same and people love it.

[Anonymous No.6868355]

>>6868214
I learned everything, anon

[Anonymous No.6868364]

Is tracing upside down fraudulent or a good way to study? I've been finding myself tracing upside down so many times that I can't even draw something upright with the same quality.

[Anonymous No.6868391]

>>6868338
They have good composition, like pavel it may seem random but it's neatly put together

[Anonymous No.6868399]

Trying to figure out how to actually put together a formal schedule as opposed to just grinding until I become tired, rest, repeat.
currently studying Loomis’ books after having gone through Bridgman once, attending life drawing classes, fundamentals of shapes in perspective, painting oil and acrylics, and doing design oriented commissions and volunteer work. I also just give myself time to go completely loose and draw whatever I want, which usually ends up becoming a study of something as an idea starts forming from that.
also need to start finding ways to formally study design and art history.

Assuming I have all the time in the world right now, which might not be the case in 2 months, and I’ve been able to maintain this level of activity for months without burning out, what would be a good way to actually set all of this to a schedule?
For clarification, my nearest goal at the moment might quite simply be to be qualified enough for work in design and illustration, my further goal being inclusive of animation, and my ultimate goal being able to support myself while creating anything I want inside and outside of a team

[Anonymous No.6868400]

>>6867809
I had an idea while doing some of these. Should I keep doing this or did I miss the point?

[Anonymous No.6868404]

>>6868246

"The writer's barely disguised fetish" is a meme for good reason. What you like in terms of anything will be reflected in your art. Sure you can intentionally steer away from it if you want, but it's invariably going to seep back in when you're less conscientious about keeping it out.

Unless you're intentionally working to create a range of character designs for a piece or just to work on your breadth of design, embrace it. Maybe once you do it enough you'll get bored of it anyway.

[Anonymous No.6868414]

>>6867428
besides my ear being low your corrections seem really minor
thank you though I can tweak it. I was wondering what wasn't satisfying me about the way it looked.

[Anonymous No.6868456]

[Anonymous No.6868483]

Is there a gold standard list of materials for doing material studies to make sure I cover everything?

[Anonymous No.6868494]

vivian

[Anonymous No.6868517]

>>6867707
that bottom right skull looks incredible, hope you can make the others look like it

[Anonymous No.6868521]

>>6867764
/beg/ poser
>>6867929
INT
>>6867978
nice, make the boob rest on the torso tho

[Anonymous No.6868570]

>>6868494
noice
is this from imagination or based on a reference?

[Anonymous No.6868574]

>>6868494
greta thunberg

[Anonymous No.6868579]

>>6868570
thank you, its from imagination

[Anonymous No.6868582]

how do i know im int?
is there an exam or something?

[Anonymous No.6868585]

Is there a shortcut to drawing random fodder?

Like drawing a bunch of soldiers getting blown up without having to EVERY soldier.

[Anonymous No.6868586]

>>6868582
you are PRO bro

[Anonymous No.6868597]

>>6866991

[Anonymous No.6868598]

>>6868585
watch liveleak videos for reference
The aftermath of blowing up is what is gruesome IMO

[Anonymous No.6868636]

fuck tou nigger

[Anonymous No.6868648]

[Anonymous No.6868658]

>>6868101
cool then, as long as you've thought about it really

[Anonymous No.6868685]

last one, productive day but i don't wanna spam thread.

>>6868582
Really nice anon, nice feets!

[Anonymous No.6868730]

>>6868648
why did you delete it

[Anonymous No.6868803]

[Anonymous No.6868864]

vilppu course part 3 notes

[Anonymous No.6868882]

[Anonymous No.6868911]

>>6868193
I could see that but I'm not sure what to do. This is actually the first time I've ever really designed a character of my own.

[Anonymous No.6868914]

>>6868193
Also the she isn't wearing clothes because it's sort of her thing. (The lore is gay and long)

[Anonymous No.6868948]

>>6868882
head is totally detached from body, like a popped socket

[Anonymous No.6869010]

i've been interested in drawing and drawing off and on for my entire life and yet i can't draw. what is wrong with me? it's literally the only thing i care about being good at and yet i can't get good at it.

[Anonymous No.6869048]

that taco book is doing me wonders
attempting anatomy, i know i fucked the shading a little but it's late nd i have to go to uni tomorrow
i'll take any crits if anyone's interested though

[Anonymous No.6869069]

>>6869048
Torso is simply too thin (even if stylistic choice)
Everything else is epic except for those legs

[Anonymous No.6869083]

>>6869069
yeah i really ought to do some leg studies, thankyuu

[Anonymous No.6869088]

Hello, beg, looking for all kinds of advice. There are many things wrong with this drawing; the first thing that strikes me is the incorrect perspective of various details. Her cape looks weird, i just can't draw it properly at this moment. Also, the cleanliness of the lineart is so-so, especially on small details. The one advice that i read here is to use opacity brush instead of size brush (ink) but when i started to paint it was looking bad, the edges of colour were seen through the lineart. I want to do another 1-2 linearts before painting it. Anyway, any critque would be nice.
Here's the character, if it's important.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWhbQoRWrZM

[Anonymous No.6869092]

>>6869088
She's about to blow off her own hand

[Anonymous No.6869101]

>>6869088
face just needs a little perspective tweaking IMO then ur golden. keep going

[Anonymous No.6869106]

>>6869088
make sure you draw through occluded parts like the upper torso, her neck and right shoulder don't look like they connect properly
if you want to improve your cloth shapes study cloth/capes, especially how and when they start doing long flowy curves. thicker cloth also behaves differently from thinner.
her hands feel small compared to her head

[Anonymous No.6869107]

>>6866969
Time to outline, I guess
Don't fuck up, don't fuck up, don't

[Anonymous No.6869112]

>>6869107
This has to be some kind of fucking superpower. How the hell do you make their bodies so appealing and 3D convincing with just a few lines? There are barely any details ffs.

[Anonymous No.6869114]

[Anonymous No.6869115]

>>6869114
Make the arms longer and the hands MUCH bigger.

[Anonymous No.6869116]

>>6869112
I'm just normal low /int/, dude
You will get there. Just keep on grinding

[Anonymous No.6869121]

>>6869115

[Anonymous No.6869131]

[Anonymous No.6869163]

>>6869088
Looks pretty ok overall. I would call your attention to some proportions. Especially the hands and feet. Thy are all too small in comparison ti the rest of the body. A good rule of thumb is to make the hand about the size ton be able to cover half the face from the chin to the eyebrows as that is how you cover your face in real life. Then the feet should be slightly larger than the hands but there is some wiggle room there depending on person, gender and of course the shoes they are wearing.

[Anonymous No.6869164]

>>6868582
Did you make that? If yes, what the fuck are you doing in this thread you are way over /int/ here.

[Anonymous No.6869165]

I keep seeing this thing popping up on feeds here and there. Is it worth a buy, or does anyone have experience with such thing?

[Anonymous No.6869166]

>>6868364
Anything is okay to study there are no fradulent ways for it.

[Anonymous No.6869169]

>>6869165
why not just use your hand and a shitty webcam if you just want to make any hand poses, that's what i do anyway.

[Anonymous No.6869218]

>>6868399
Bump

[Anonymous No.6869266]

first time properly sitting down and drawing anything, is this the right idea for pixel art wizard game? I know it's bad but idk enough technical stuff to know how to identify what needs work
thanks bros

[Anonymous No.6869275]

>>6869266
oh copy-pasting made it look different
here it is

[Anonymous No.6869276]

>>6869266
I guess it's too small to post normally but here it is in-game where it gets scaled up

[Anonymous No.6869281]

>>6869266
>>6869275
>>6869276
most boring, uninspired shit imaginable

[Anonymous No.6869288]

>>6869276
Is that a single frame of an animation or is it a whole sprite?

[Anonymous No.6869292]

>>6869288
a single frame
>>6869281
yeah that's fair, I wanted something really simple to learn, so I was like "ice man in a cloak". here's something terrible but maybe less boring that I drew in the same session

[Anonymous No.6869338]

>>6869292
Go browse https://pixeljoint.com/

[Anonymous No.6869340]

any critique on the composition of this pic? bunch of warmup sketches that i cobbled together, so i get that it might lack a focal point

[Anonymous No.6869346]

>>6869340
crap

[Anonymous No.6869358]

>>6869340
Other anon doesn’t know what they’re saying, this is really great. I’m sure Takahashi-sensei would appreciate it too. It kind of reminds me of Urasawa’s music diaries as well.
I’d like to ask if there’s a page where you upload your work, but I’d also totally understand if you don’t feel comfortable sharing that here

[Anonymous No.6869359]

>>6869340
It's cluttered, hurts my eye to look at for too long. No where to rest. I like your lines tho.

[Anonymous No.6869372]

>>6869358
thank you for the compliments, the passing of two of YMOs members was a major factor in my decision to pursue a creative goal this year. my twitter handle is @egotanz, but i only started it yesterday
>>6869359
yeah, i agree. i was worried that there weren't enough darker value areas in the original to lead the eye

[Anonymous No.6869409]

>>6868730
I wish more of the shitty artists here would preemptively delete their stuff rather than waste our time.

[Anonymous No.6869413]

I didn’t draw this weekend. I’m so proud of me. Can I make it through the week?

[Anonymous No.6869414]

>>6869413
ngmi

[Anonymous No.6869415]

>>6867788
sorry but you don't know how to draw boxes my man, maybe work through an quick and easy perspective book like Dongho KIM - Space Drawing: Perspective, then go through the first few chapters of vilppu

[Anonymous No.6869430]

>>6869414
You people told me I was NGMI when I was drawing, so nothing has changed.

[Anonymous No.6869437]

>You people told me I was NGMI when I was drawing, so nothing has changed.

[Anonymous No.6869441]

>>6869437
ESL?

[Anonymous No.6869445]

>>6869430
I'm so glad it got to you, seeing you butthurt through weeks is pleasure. Now please entertain me with more whining how no one here knows what constructive criticism is.

[Anonymous No.6869481]

is it realistic to aim for making like 500$ a month with drawing one day if youre self-taught, with enough dedication? or is it unrealistic if you dont have a proper teacher and all.

[Anonymous No.6869483]

>>6869340
I did this as quick as I could, but what if you did something like this? I used Sergio Toppi as inspiration. I removed the feet because I wasn't sure if that's another panel/page just coming through.
I think your pic has two main issues, no place for the eye to rest, and there's not much to lead the eye around. Everything feels too similarly sized and spaced.

[Anonymous No.6869547]

>>6869483
wow anon, your sketch is incredibly inspiring and looks completely effortless. the problem with sizing was definitely a blindspot for me. thank you so much for your feedback. you made my day, and in /beg/ of all places

[Anonymous No.6869558]

>>6868582
blog?

[Anonymous No.6869562]

>>6869164
hello, yes. im working on this for a friend

[Anonymous No.6869571]

>>6869445
Don’t need to. You people do a good job of proving me right all the time.

[Anonymous No.6869592]

>Did the whole Bridgemans book once
>I'm supposed to do it again while not looking at the pictures
>tries it
>I'm back to my children drawings again
What the fuck
This is goddamn hard, just the sheer fact of remembering what i was drawing is very difficult.
Any tips?

[Anonymous No.6869609]

>>6869592
Fun comes first.
Abandon that and just eyeball your favorite pictures.

You'll learn your own style of learning

[Anonymous No.6869610]

>>6869592
>he fell for the Bridgememe

[Anonymous No.6869611]

>>6868597
why did you make the chair leg randomly bend
also if no one does a collage of these next thread im gonna BE ANGRY

[Anonymous No.6869612]

>>6869609
based and funpilled

[Anonymous No.6869628]

>>6869612
This picture is a terribly misleading meme because it suggests that fun and hard work are not directly interrelated. In reality it is exactly the opposite, having fun and hard work are inseparable from each other.

[Anonymous No.6869643]

>>6869628
>having fun and hard work are inseparable
Frustration is hardwork still, mate

[Anonymous No.6869659]

this thread is shit and youre all shit

[Anonymous No.6869669]

>>6869266
I feel like if he needs to move, like if he's in a platformer game, this is going to give you troubles, but if this is for an rpg where he's just going to stand there and maybe have his cloak blowing in the wind, it should be okay but his silhouette/overall shape doesn't read too well.

[Anonymous No.6869674]

>>6868864
assignment 3

[Anonymous No.6869697]

>>6869610
Silence, crab

[Anonymous No.6869713]

Is construction really the meme people say it is? I was watching a video of my favorite mangaka(kaoru mori) draw and she just threw down the contours.

[Anonymous No.6869714]

>>6869674
epic

[Anonymous No.6869727]

Do I really not know how to draw boxes?

[Anonymous No.6869728]

Hey, what's a good place to find references of nice-looking cocks? Preferably without anyone else present, just the cock

[Anonymous No.6869729]

>>6869728
e621

[Anonymous No.6869734]

>>6869729
Shouldn't I learn from real pics of cocks and then transition to perhaps learning some ways people draw them?

[Anonymous No.6869736]

>>6868911
>>6868914
Okay then maybe give it a more unique face or something. When you're designing characters it really helps if the reader can instantly get an idea of that character just by looking at them and if that's not possible, then maybe lean on the green girl being more angular/sharper than the soft round bunny girl. Here's a doodle to maybe give you an idea.

[Anonymous No.6869741]

>>6869734
IMO try to look up "how to draw dicks/cocks" on twitter. Gay fag artists are obviously the best at it.

SKIP studying irl cocks since that's super gay and a waste of time if you're going to draw stylized ones anyway

[Anonymous No.6869746]

>>6869741
I am pretty much 100% gay anon, so fagginess is not a problem.
Isn't it just usually recommended to learn to draw real people and then simplify + stylize once you've gotten an understanding of real people?
I'll definitely have a look on twitter for that, though, thank you

[Anonymous No.6869765]

I remember some lads telling me that the straps were uncomfy looking so I removed a bit of the asymmetry so that its not as bad
>>6867764
It's obviously not supposed to be an action pose though? Its a relaxed back view to show the design.

[Anonymous No.6869772]

>>6869765
Real nice job on the metal, anon! Did you get there by any particular guide/book?

[Anonymous No.6869779]

>>6869736
KINOO

[Anonymous No.6869794]

>>6869592
>copy
>instantly try to reproduce the drawing
>look at copy again
>try to reproduce until you can
>wait 5 min
>try to reproduce again

Not hard, just keep trying to do it until you don't need the book anymore. Don't fucking copy the WHOLE book before you try to make it from memory.

[Anonymous No.6869811]

>>6869592
It's hard. You have to draw it in your mind several times before you close the book and draw it from memory

[Anonymous No.6869812]

>>6869772
I just always did a couple studies painting spoons and metallic things IRL and then just looking at armor a lot. The main vid that helped me was this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWE3m2x34Nc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmTUAFwzWNg

[Anonymous No.6869813]

[Anonymous No.6869819]

Got into drawing again. I intend to stick by it this time around and just do it daily, even if i don't intend to put a lot of time in or do any serious progress.

[Anonymous No.6869825]

>>6869713
Construction is just a visualization tool, expect you put it on paper instead of trying to juggle it in your mind. And when you've drawn figures a million times, like your favorite artists, you should have developed a very good sense of how things are supposed to look with out having get out old trusty construction.

[Anonymous No.6869851]

begtober day 2

[Anonymous No.6869883]

>>6868163
its my wife now

[Anonymous No.6869884]

>>6869611
Look at the source, the leg is bent. I may have made it look a little exaggerated.
>tfw didn't mention the feet
YAY

[Anonymous No.6869959]

>>6869819
Hell yes, I love prehistoric animols

[Anonymous No.6869974]

>>6869812
Thanks anon!

[Anonymous No.6869988]

>>6866969
How can I go from left to something more like the center or right?

Any good/simple videos that break down rendering and layers?

[Anonymous No.6870028]

>>6869988
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTYGWfiZnMA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQ5QF0q4QqQ
Your values are weak.

[Anonymous No.6870036]

>>6869988
Your values are fine

[Anonymous No.6870045]

>>6870036
>>6870028
Do I gain Brouzouf?

Either way, thanks for the links.

[Anonymous No.6870116]

All I had in me today

[Anonymous No.6870138]

>>6870116
well im glad you got that shit out, wouldnt want to get constipated

[Anonymous No.6870143]

Where can a find something like this but color coded? I am struggling a bit to understand where each muscle starts and ends

[Anonymous No.6870169]

WTF is wrong with my inking?
Look at the shit I tried to do.
I try to make lines with lots of finesse but they always come out squiggly and stiff
Is it something with my tablet, my software or the technique I use?

[Anonymous No.6870174]

>>6870169
Unless I'm missing something, this is just an issue you have to work around with digital inking. I imagine most art programs have some sort of line stabilizer. You need to either use that and learn to work with that (it'll draw lines slower to smooth out the wobbles) OR you need to learn to draw quick, deliberate lines. One benefit of doing this digitally is layers and being able to erase. So you can make a new layer, draw in your line and then erase to make it match the rest of the piece.
It's not you. Digital inking picks up every wobble and shake in your hand and if you draw slowly this happens. All of us had this issue at one point.

[Anonymous No.6870175]

>>6870169
>inking
>digital
choose one and only one

[Anonymous No.6870186]

tips on getting used to a graphic tablet? I can work with it, done >>6869819 using it but it still feels super weird when compared to a usual pen.

[Anonymous No.6870202]

Is it worth trying a fountain pen for sketching and drawing? I love ink based stuff, but I'm not sure where to start with fountain pens

[Anonymous No.6870207]

>>6869988
80% of the problem on the left drawing is the head

[Anonymous No.6870217]

>>6869988
study drapery

[Anonymous No.6870235]

>>6869988
If that's what your art looks like on the left, it's cartoon/anime rendered with cel shading and black outlines. If you wanted something like the middle, you'd need to approach it more like a painter. There's not too much of a difference, but the process might take some time to adjust to.
This artist has a whole channel of speedpaint videos on anime and game characters. It's pretty handy to just watch how they do it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbHsYscK7PU

[Anonymous No.6870265]

been trying to study heads and i think i need to get better at positioning boxes to make things easier. should i just go through drawabox? i understand the basics of perspective, but actually drawing shapes correctly is different.

[Anonymous No.6870269]

>>6870265
I like steve hustons head drawing lesson a lot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T7cDY7YDsg

[Anonymous No.6870287]

>>6870269
that’s actually what i’m learning from. the parts where he talks about making heads into boxes are where i’m having trouble.

[Anonymous No.6870297]

How do i learn lighting the proper way? i use Linear burn layers but as of lately I think it looks messy , lazy and overall bad.
If anything else looks off please tell me.

[Anonymous No.6870307]

>>6870297
>>6870028

[Anonymous No.6870310]

>>6870297
where did you learn what colors to choose? this looks really nice

[Anonymous No.6870322]

>>6870174
Makes sense. I I'll try the stabilizer or being swifter and pray for the best.
>>6870175
Aw man, how hopeless does it get?

[Anonymous No.6870328]

>>6870310
I just do the classic trick of making lighter colors warmer and darker colors colder, there's not that much to it.
I also mess around with blending modes, but that's exactly what i'm looking to avoid from now on.

[Anonymous No.6870347]

>>6870345
>>6870345

new slop
>>6870345

[Anonymous No.6870383]

>>6870143
Anatomy for Sculptors is pretty good.