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/beg/ & /int/ - Beginner and Intermediate Thread Anonymous Mon Sep 25 13:17:30 2023 No.6858612 [Reply] [Original]

If you are a /beg/inner or /int/ermediate in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
Use this thread instead of making new threads or post in the drawthread with fundamental exercises.

>READ THE STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
Old: http://www.squidoo.com/how-to-draw-learn
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
>TRY TO BE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK.
When giving feedback, avoid vague "advice" - point what's wrong and try to give the anon you're quoting a clear direction
to improve their art (study heads < watch THIS VIDEO about head structure, read THIS SECTION of THIS ARTIST'S BOOK, etc).
You, feedback seeking anon, should also try to be clear and concise when asking for critique/help.
When posting your artwork, say what you want help with, and what's your goal with the study/artwork.

previous >>6854675

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 13:51:06 2023 No.6858639 I'm doing way worse the last month compared to usual. What do? How do I get through this?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 13:59:55 2023 No.6858648 File: 314 KB, 2000x1600, 1675679861921919.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] me if i was real

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 14:02:42 2023 No.6858650 >>6858648 You look very annoying. Also I think the top of your head has been sliced off.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 14:10:19 2023 No.6858656 I am done with 50 pages of Bridgman. 328 pages of drawings in the book total, but probably skipping heads and faces so I think I'm a 6th of the way done. Bit sad from that perspective.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 14:13:34 2023 No.6858658 >>6858656 but what are you aiming for, do you really need to do all that?

Anonymous Mon Sep 25 14:32:38 2023 No.6858691

>>6858658
Someday I wish to be able to draw (and paint) well enough to make a living off of it. Particularly I would like to paint stained glass, though that is likely too specific of a niche to aim for. So the things I am hoping to focus on in order are proportions and a bit of anatomy and proportion (hence studying Bridgman), heads and faces, at which point I think I should be ready to start practicing rendering, clothes, and lastly color.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 14:54:54 2023 No.6858720 >>6858691 reasonable way of thinking

Anonymous Mon Sep 25 15:00:03 2023 No.6858731
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Haven't been drawing for about a week or so, my painting and drawing abilities degraded significantly, figures got stiff, value control got really sloppy, and lineweight control with my dip pen got horrible.
So I have punished myself with the default hard round brush and copied 7 pages of Bridgman in one sitting. The hand hurts, but it was a joyful experience in a way.
I am going to do some painting studies on statues before bed.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 15:02:12 2023 No.6858735 >>6858648 zoidberg hands

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 15:03:21 2023 No.6858736 >>6858731 work on hard edges vs soft edges in painting

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 15:07:42 2023 No.6858739 https://youtu.be/IC3SfO5_qY4?si=CsgTxBRfgUslN3S5

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 15:08:51 2023 No.6858740 File: 509 KB, 2560x1920, 35 web.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6858612 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwx7Xhdc44c

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 15:25:10 2023 No.6858756 >>6858224 bump

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 15:28:30 2023 No.6858759 >>6858656 Good luck Anon. I've been there - took me three days nearly full-time, but I was so proud of the result.

Anonymous Mon Sep 25 15:29:55 2023 No.6858761
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I didn't have much time today but I was able to do a bit of practice...my ability to curve lines seems to be improving but my shapes still look really messy and flat like in many cases.

I am planning on reading Drawing from the Right Side of the Brain soon, but I think the main issue with me, and a lot of other beginner artists, is a lack of direction due to the contradictory advice people tend to give.

The main issue I also have is when I try to draw character eyes, they always never look right, they look flat and lifeless.

Regardless, I am gonna keep trying for at least a month to see if I do make a bit of progress, I should have more free time for this later in the week.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 15:37:11 2023 No.6858764 >>6858759 I spend 4-5 hours a day 5 days a week, with the goal of min 4 pages, more realistically 5-6. So it will probably take me 2 more months to finish it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 15:39:59 2023 No.6858768 I wonder if it's normal to hate grinding fundies

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 15:42:00 2023 No.6858770 >>6858768 Depends on how you do it. If you like the end result drawing odds are you will hate it less than infinite boxes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 15:47:24 2023 No.6858774 I’m still not drawing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 15:49:05 2023 No.6858775 >>6858088 Appreciate the crit anon, I am checking out his drawing manual now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 15:56:01 2023 No.6858777 File: 141 KB, 448x428, 1654221229138.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] we are all going to make it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 16:06:39 2023 No.6858786 >>6858731 skill degrading is a myth

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 16:11:08 2023 No.6858788 >>6858777 I am going to "make" my way into my bedroom, grab my Taurus G3C, and blow my brains out. >>6858786 I halfway agree. Like artists drawing with their off hand, all the knowledge you have still applies, but your motor skills might not be there.

Anonymous Mon Sep 25 16:14:33 2023 No.6858790
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I'm sorry if this is a stupid question
But what exactly are you supposed to do when you reach these pages?

Are you supposed to copy them or are they there just as an example on what you WILL be able to do with it later on?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 16:15:04 2023 No.6858791 >>6858786 Unless you've done it so many times that it becomes automatic, it's real.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 16:15:41 2023 No.6858793 >>6858648 Ok, now post (You) after loomis

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 16:23:49 2023 No.6858800 File: 231 KB, 1650x1900, unnamed.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] how do I make this better

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 16:31:22 2023 No.6858803 >>6858764 You might be spending too much time on a single page. The task might be too much if you do it so carefully

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 16:31:48 2023 No.6858804 >>6858800 What feels lacking to you? There are many ways you could make the piece better and more interesting, but at a glance there's not anything glaringly wrong with it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 16:33:43 2023 No.6858808 >>6858768 If you hate grinding fundies, find another way to grind fundies. Copying Frazetta artwork helped me practice linework, observation, accuracy, anatomy, etc, except I actually had a ton of fun. Master studies are underrated.

Anonymous Mon Sep 25 16:40:07 2023 No.6858815

>>6858800
Drawing is still very "flat" with little volume especially to the face. I recommend learning/practicing the planes of the head (and of the rest of the body) to give them more volume.
From what I can see of the hand, it's pretty good. That's rare for /beg/.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 16:43:01 2023 No.6858817 >>6858800 Finish it.

Anonymous Mon Sep 25 16:55:42 2023 No.6858833
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>>6858800
His right arm is shorter than his left. Arm placements are also kinda awkward, looks like he's crossing his arms to the right side of his body, not straight down the middle. Pic related is what it should look like, compare the shoulders.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 17:14:10 2023 No.6858862 What are some exercises to develop spatial thinking other than rotating cubes?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 17:20:26 2023 No.6858867 Which figure drawing book is best for a retard? Tried villpu and genuinely feel too stupid to get it

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 17:22:39 2023 No.6858868 Is the whole idea behind loomis heads that you will naturally remember how to construct the circles if you do enough of them? Making the face is easy but the circle lines are messing me up

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 17:25:42 2023 No.6858869 >>6858862 Drawing

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 17:30:48 2023 No.6858877 >>6858867 Read Burne Hogarth's figure drawing book and then try villpu again.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 17:39:34 2023 No.6858888 >>6858868 Circle lines?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 17:41:05 2023 No.6858890 >>6858888 Sphere lines, you know what I mean. The ear line and the nose/mouth lines that go around the sphere. Do you just memorize the patterns?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 17:51:27 2023 No.6858897 >>6858890 Patterns? Are you guessing? Show us what you have so far.

Anonymous Mon Sep 25 17:57:21 2023 No.6858904
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>>6858897
I'm following along with the line arrangements he uses in the book, but if I try to do my own from imagination I can't really know if the lines are correct
Is it something you pick up naturally over time?

Anonymous Mon Sep 25 18:01:33 2023 No.6858909
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is there any good /ic/ sanctioned tutorial for laying out shading? like how to know where and when to put shadow based on a lighting source.
To do simple yet quality stuff like Akai.riot for example.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 18:02:52 2023 No.6858914 File: 395 KB, 1900x2328, 20230925_130052~2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Okay heads are fun so far I think I will do Bridgman's heads and whatnot.

Anonymous Mon Sep 25 18:04:06 2023 No.6858916
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>>6858904
Either you're not far into the book and you're just making up shit, or your just looking at the pictures and completely skipped out the part where he tells you about 3rds and the side plane. Read the book.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 18:05:16 2023 No.6858920 File: 256 KB, 1380x1000, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Tried that 3 values study

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 18:05:59 2023 No.6858924 >>6858612 >30 >still can barely draw a box It's over for me isn't it? I'll never be able to catch up with my peers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 18:06:12 2023 No.6858925 >>6858920 Lets see the reference.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 18:06:54 2023 No.6858926 File: 103 KB, 960x720, BDRip Killers Kiss 1955.mkv_snapshot_00.39.10_[2023.09.12_02.14.02].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6858925

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 18:15:21 2023 No.6858934 File: 1.20 MB, 1920x2092, uhyghkjhuyguhj.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] RAPID JUICE

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 18:18:16 2023 No.6858936 >>6858934 Unironically better than 99% of stuff on /ic/

Anonymous Mon Sep 25 18:19:49 2023 No.6858938

https://youtu.be/ID8r0OhiYe0
>you need flow and gesture!!
But what if i want to draw something static
>you need flow and gesture AROUND the static thing?
what if i can't because i'm drawing a nude figure?
>welll you just push the shapes to be unsymettrical!
but what if i want to keep it as realistic as possible?
>well uhhh I uhhh
you can't, gesture is a dumb crutch.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 18:20:41 2023 No.6858940 >>6858934 This piece of shit is still around?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 18:24:45 2023 No.6858946 Friendly meds reminder :)

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 18:26:32 2023 No.6858951 File: 186 KB, 1000x628, hand_exercise14.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I wanna get back into grinding my fundies so I figured I'll practice hands every day of this week. If I skip a day please call me gay or something so I'll stay on track.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 18:33:25 2023 No.6858959 File: 13 KB, 266x270, unnamed1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6858833 the reference I used kind of has the arms towards the side but yeah it still does look kind of off, not sure how to fix that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 18:56:54 2023 No.6858990 >>6858691 I wish you all the gmi's you need

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 19:23:52 2023 No.6859012 >>6858959 He's supposed to be homelander right? So why didn't you pick someone buffer?

Anonymous Mon Sep 25 19:24:59 2023 No.6859014
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>Kinda get stuck int a loop of get reference > copy it.
>Realize I'm probably autopiloting it, so try to do things by imagination, for fun and stuff
>Ends up drawing cringey doodles and characters, heads looks like day1 loomis
>Wonders why I'm even bothering doing this stuff all day, and sometime for the whole weekend
It's one of those days I guess
I'm sure I exaggerate, but the moral is really low right now

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 19:26:50 2023 No.6859015 >>6858934 nice

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 19:27:50 2023 No.6859017 >>6858951 Those are some nice hands man.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 19:28:02 2023 No.6859018 >>6858759 That's way too fast. You either didn't need the info in the first place or you didn't really think about what you were copying

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 19:31:25 2023 No.6859021 >>6859014 Try doing a mix. Start construction based on a reference but add other details. Doesn't have to be 100% copy a reference or 100% from imagination.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 19:32:30 2023 No.6859022 >>6859012 comic Homelander is a tank but the tv show version matches the reference's physique pretty well.

Anonymous Mon Sep 25 19:39:34 2023 No.6859031
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>>6858959
Gotcha. So it was actually the opposite problem, everything else was tilted the other way. Pic related is something I quickly threw together, you can see how you turned the torso and neck moreso than it should've.
Other than that man you're killing it. Face looks great and lineart looks clean.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 19:41:02 2023 No.6859032 >>6858867 Vilppu makes me feel retarded too. It's not just you. I can't really help you when it comes to books, sorry

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>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 19:45:56 2023 No.6859039 >>6859018 I did need the info. I just drew 8 to 10 hours a day for 3 days and that was excellent practice for my line confidence, accuracy, and construction. I made great progress with it and I'd happily do it again.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 19:53:07 2023 No.6859049 >>6859039 gmi

Anonymous Mon Sep 25 19:55:32 2023 No.6859053
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Whenever I look at references my art looks good to me, but I can't translate the same level of skill when I use my imagination. I also have troubles with proportions and 3d form. any suggestions? my goals are to draw stylized figures of everyday tasks like brushing hair or making a ponytail, washing face, putting on shoes, etc. The whispers of beauty only seen for a moment.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 19:58:23 2023 No.6859057 >>6859053 these were an average of 15 minutes each. I tried to go faster and not overthink.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 20:05:08 2023 No.6859063 What would be one of the hardest things to draw in terms of perspective? I wanna collect up some references to feed into a timed gesture drawing software and I want to hit my breaking point so other simpler perspectives seem easier.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 20:13:47 2023 No.6859073 >>6859031 I see it now, thanks for the help

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 20:16:14 2023 No.6859076 How do I start with painting? I realized I always did studies and lineart, but never painting. I tried a bit, but it's incredibly overwhelming, I can't do anything

Anonymous Mon Sep 25 20:18:38 2023 No.6859078

>>6859053
If your goal is to draw people doing everyday things then I don't think you really need to worry about drawing from imagination very much. I would keep grinding the poses, and if you're having trouble with proportions, it doesn't hurt to break out the ruler every once in a while. Make sure the proportions match up to the reference, and then redraw it again this time eyeballing it as close as possible.
The sketches look good, I think you're on the right track.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 20:22:49 2023 No.6859088 File: 181 KB, 668x958, Illustration2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 6th day drawing in a row...hopefully i can keep it up

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 20:34:05 2023 No.6859110 >>6859076 Start here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUM3SHNCfpM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zC3OxonJcXQ

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 20:34:54 2023 No.6859111 >>6859088 the fuck is that awesome timer?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 20:38:29 2023 No.6859118 >>6859110 Cheers anon

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 21:15:34 2023 No.6859194 I'm at the stage where I want to ink things but the inking looks worse to me. It ends up looking like it was done in MS paint. This is with the default inking pen in Krita.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 21:17:00 2023 No.6859198 >>6859194 show example

Anonymous Mon Sep 25 21:18:55 2023 No.6859206
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Live figure drawing. Left hand was hell and I kinda gave up on it after a while. Some parts turned out nicely though.

I first made a smaller drawing and then the teachers encouraged me to go up a size instead, so I started over, and it was pretty nice to draw on such a big paper.

Sorry for the bad picture, I had to roll up the drawing to transport it.

Anonymous Mon Sep 25 21:21:54 2023 No.6859211
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How do you actually get out of the retarded beg phase of constantly thinking about drawing but never doing it.
I've been going "I'm gonna do it tomorrow" for over half a year now and i drew maybe like five times during that whole time while constantly anxiously thinking about doing it every day without a fail.
I bought a graphic tablet a week ago and am unpacking it just now. Spent the whole last week procastrinating while actively thinking about finally touching it.

Am i retarded and if so, how do i get less retarded?

Anonymous Mon Sep 25 21:23:17 2023 No.6859215
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>trying to make a scene where a window on a spaceship gets blown out (no not realistically) to get a scene where someone jumps to grab something as they’re sucked out said newly built hole and flies away on the rocket that blasted the hole
>want to look up references of the same angle (since surely someone in some comic’s done this sort of shot before)
>have no earthly idea of what terms to search for
I know we’re supposed to post our work so far, but it’s all really light sketches right now, I have zero confidence in my perspective shots, and I only have my phone with me on vacation so I can’t edit this much. I tried using the tools on my phone and finger to flesh it out more than I felt comfortable with putting on paper without refs. Black’s the panel, the little gem in the middle, and the chair the big bad is sitting in. Red’s the two robots getting blown back, the mc crouching down and plugging her ears and the big bad in the chair. Blue is all the glass flying everywhere

I need a tablet. And actual workpaper. And a lot of things but whatever, vacation I work with what I can.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 21:25:19 2023 No.6859220 >>6859211 ideas maxxing and drawing from life

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 21:25:36 2023 No.6859222 >>6859211 >inb4 just draw

Anonymous Mon Sep 25 21:25:46 2023 No.6859223
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>>6859215
I’ll post the proceeding pages too bc may as well, the fat dude’s fucked on the hands but I didn’t want to dwell on it, get frustrated and give up on the whole project like I do too often. I can fix the hands later.

Really again the big question is what terms to look up to get the right perspective references for that fourth page.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 21:26:33 2023 No.6859226 File: 232 KB, 1280x960, IMG_1848.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6859223 Pages 2 and 1

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 21:26:36 2023 No.6859227 >>6859220 >drawing from life I absolutely loathe drawing from life. Made me quit last time i got serious about it. Its too frustrating. Got absolutely filtered.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 21:27:27 2023 No.6859230 File: 62 KB, 1052x1683, wizard cat sketch.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6859198 Sketch

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 21:28:04 2023 No.6859235 File: 85 KB, 969x1709, wizard cat ink.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6859198 Ink

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 21:28:36 2023 No.6859237 File: 106 KB, 1074x1616, wizard cat basic colours.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6859198 Colour

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 21:29:44 2023 No.6859241 >>6859211 think really hard what you feel when trying to draw maybe you are just scared of failure

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 21:30:16 2023 No.6859242 >>6859206 Good effort. >teachers encouraged me to go up a size instead Good. Figure out how to make smoother marks. Looks like your drawing utensil is snagging on all the grain in the drawing surface under the paper which makes it look gross.

Anonymous Mon Sep 25 21:32:20 2023 No.6859247
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>>6859226
And here’s why I’m not gonna do any of this in color on here.

I got some new markers at a store in Osaka on the trip and while the bile bots and space bandit came out okay, the Doctor got all fucked up with the Hot Space pants. I was going for a rather obvious nod to the antagonist of Anpanman, mostly since I’ve seen this dude everywhere on this trip, but I also wanted to try my new markers out and the ‘grey’ skin was fucked too. Anyway they bled through the pages and ruined the ones behind them so I won’t be using these for any pagework. Just to make an idea of what the characters are supposed to look like all drawn out

I’m not spending a super amount of time on their designs since in like three, four pages the MC’s gonna wake up and we’re not gonna see these guys ever again

Anonymous Mon Sep 25 21:33:03 2023 No.6859249
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working on a for fun drawing for ~1h before deciding to wait on bigger pieces until finishing more shading practices. then warming back up with some blobs for 1h and now spamming 1m gestures to work on drawing from the arm and remember the basics of figure for the proko course. mostly look like shit lol, but definite improvement since starting

>>6859211
do you know what you're going to draw or are you just thinking "must draw tomorrow"

>>6859206
>>6859088
>>6859038
nice, keep it up

>>6858924
how many of those 30 years did you spend drawing. and is it going to help you catch up if you wait another

Anonymous Mon Sep 25 21:33:39 2023 No.6859252

>>6859241
>maybe you are just scared of failure
That's it, i figured it out two years ago when i first began but knowing doesn't help in the slightest.
It's like knowing that you're blind because you had acid dipped in your eyes. You know the reason behind your peril but its not like it helps at all.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 21:33:49 2023 No.6859253 >>6859194 unironically trace manga/doujins pages with the gpen I learned this way

Anonymous Mon Sep 25 21:37:00 2023 No.6859265

>>6859252
You just need to approach it more casually maybe. Listen to something. Could be hype music, relaxing music, some bullshit on Youtube that puts you in a good mood. I stick on Oneyplays or listen to Sleepycast and just chill. Eventually I end up not concentrating on the video or podcast and get caught up in trying to adjust my sketches. This is coming from a guy who used to get mad just trying to draw a straight line and failing.

Anonymous Mon Sep 25 21:41:20 2023 No.6859271

>>6859249
>do you know what you're going to draw or are you just thinking "must draw tomorrow"
Both. I usually have a solid idea that i fail to carry out in any reasonable fashion if i do get down to it.
So most of the times where i don't get to it i do have a clear goal in mind, i just don't carry it out.

>>6859265
I always listen to music when i do anything. I've got that adhd retard brain. Whenever i draw anything tricker i have to turn it off to focus though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 21:42:20 2023 No.6859278 >>6859253 I've never heard of a gpen so that's an interesting lead, cheers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 21:47:55 2023 No.6859288 File: 48 KB, 1195x889, test.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I don't know, I felt like having fun, but does that piece even make sense?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 21:48:33 2023 No.6859292 >>6859288 whimsical creature it's not technically impressive but i like it

Anonymous Mon Sep 25 21:49:29 2023 No.6859293

>Get the motivation to unpack my graphic tablet after a week of not touching it
>The pen doesn't come pre-charged so i have to wait an hour for it to charge up
>Its 12AM and i'm sickly
>Will be going to sleep soon either way
Well its just like my yesterday self said: Tomorrow it is i suppose.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 21:51:55 2023 No.6859301 >>6859293 Is there some kind of advantage with pens that have their own power supply? Mine has no batteries or anything.

Anonymous Mon Sep 25 21:53:47 2023 No.6859303

>>6859211
Remove any friction of getting started. If you had to fetch your tablet from the bottom of your closet and unpack it every time you wanted to draw you would do very little drawing. My tablet is always plugged in and and ready in front of me at my pc, in case the urge to draw hits me.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 21:54:29 2023 No.6859306 >>6859301 I have absolutely no idea. This is the first tablet i've ever owned. Thought the pens just recharge every time they meet the surface or some such magic but i guess not.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 21:55:32 2023 No.6859310 >>6859303 I'm ashamed to share the fact that i've been learning to draw with my family because i am really bad so i keep my supplies hidden. Unpacking it takes less than a minute though so its not that big of a deal.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 21:55:34 2023 No.6859311 >>6859306 What brand is this? Just so I can avoid it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 21:57:00 2023 No.6859314 >>6859311 Huicon 1060. They probably have models with self-rechargable pens but this one ain't it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 21:58:48 2023 No.6859318 >>6859111 I'll be nice because of trips but it's name is in the image. https://neilblr.com/post/58757345346

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 21:59:27 2023 No.6859320 >>6859310 My family do not have a clue I'm drawing either, I just told them the tablet was for when I would get wrist pain from using the mouse too much.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 22:01:14 2023 No.6859328 >>6859311 >>6859314 just read up on the manual, its not that big of a hassle. It takes two hours to charge fully and then it can operate for 350 hours. Practically no difference between a self-charging one.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 22:13:14 2023 No.6859363 File: 79 KB, 442x537, 332.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6858612 I've been stuck trying to figure out how to foreshorten this. Help

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 22:16:04 2023 No.6859373 File: 14 KB, 153x268, how to get these lines.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6859363 How do you get lines like the one in the centre? All the tutorials I see have lines like this that are smooth and taper at the ends.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 22:16:13 2023 No.6859374 >>6859363 By foreshortening it more

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 22:17:32 2023 No.6859380 >>6859373 What? I just used the eraser and chipped on it. >>6859374 Nigger

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 22:18:29 2023 No.6859382 >>6859380 Oh. Well I keep watching digital art tutorials and they always get these nice smooth, swooping lines.

Anonymous Mon Sep 25 22:20:16 2023 No.6859388

>>6859211
I spent the last couple years working construction which was pretty long hours and so I had little energy for drawing. Currently a neet and I have a lot more energy to draw. However I will be trying to start part time work soon ish because I still need at least some money.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 22:27:31 2023 No.6859403 Hello, I have been researching the horizon line and I have doubts about the images with cameras/low/high angles. Where is the horizon line? And do you know any tricks to find it easier at weird angles?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 22:28:30 2023 No.6859405 >>6859403 Horizon line is eye level

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 22:28:34 2023 No.6859407 File: 618 KB, 720x1190, Screenshot_20230925-161340~2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6859403

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 22:31:50 2023 No.6859411 >>6859382 Oh line confidence is gained through years of experience. Just a few months, actually Your lines will get longer and smoother the longer you draw

Anonymous Mon Sep 25 22:36:17 2023 No.6859418

>>6859252
what helped me overcome that fear is knowing that repetition makes me improve: It means only by taking action you can conquer fear. Thoughts, ideas or distractions don't
courses that add homework also helped me since just theorizing without practice is worthless

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 22:37:11 2023 No.6859419 File: 696 KB, 1493x3289, Sketch_4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Thoughts on the linework I tried making them thicker this time

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 22:39:21 2023 No.6859423 >>6858788 >Taurus Falta de sorte ser brasileiro ou coisa assim

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 22:39:21 2023 No.6859424 >>6859419 clothing folds don't seem right. Look up reference

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 22:45:19 2023 No.6859435 File: 26 KB, 510x537, 334fffss.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6859363 I'd probably do something like this. Get the back persons elbow out to make it more powerful.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 22:55:24 2023 No.6859453 File: 110 KB, 478x792, persp.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6859407 you could probably use vertical two point for this. Just flip your horizon line sideways.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 22:56:31 2023 No.6859455 >>6859435 That does look better. Thanks mate

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 22:58:30 2023 No.6859460 File: 1.04 MB, 1300x2019, perspective.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6859407 Did a hasty lay in. I think it's something like this.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 23:25:59 2023 No.6859490 >>6859460 Thanks. Very educational and proof that I still don't understand the topic well.

Anonymous Mon Sep 25 23:43:11 2023 No.6859512

>>6859490
It takes time and practice to sink in. Fortunately you don't need super rigorous training to be able to use it. You just memorize a few rules and tricks for understanding the positions of a few key elements and how they'll affect what you're drawing. Tons of free resources online to help you. And finding a quick perspective grid in a photo like this is good practice. You can even try sketching stuff into the photo along with the perspective to get a better feel for the space.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 23:45:32 2023 No.6859514 File: 1000 KB, 1000x1412, practice21jpg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] trying to maintain a daily routine

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 23:46:41 2023 No.6859519 How do people feel about hyper violent magical girls?

Anonymous Mon Sep 25 23:49:20 2023 No.6859524

>>6859519
A good subversion of the candy trope but may argueably be overdone, depending on the level and whether you can back it up with any other substance

I mean, we had I Hate Fairyland and it's gritty but remembered for nothing else
Then we had Madoka which had nothing brutal but still celebrated

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 25 23:57:54 2023 No.6859539 File: 279 KB, 741x1157, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I need to upsize the head a little and fix the right legs perspective a bit but could I uh, get a red line for the breasts? They look off but I can't figure out what exactly.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 00:20:40 2023 No.6859568 File: 210 KB, 1600x1408, 250923_dist copy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] distillation study based on the method from that one sinix video. pretty fun way to learn about value composition

Anonymous Tue Sep 26 00:35:31 2023 No.6859596
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Sup beg. This is the only "perspective" book which told me you can break the rules. Rad.

>>6859539
death by snu snu. i kneel. leave her head like this. it implies she is 2 meters tall. the booba looks strange because on the side they usually connect to the torso, yet you drew there hard line, even showing how clothing folds go under the booba. Simply connect booba to the side and let cloth to be ON TOP of booba instead of under
>>6859514
good. draw daily or die. WAGMI
>>6859419
people usually put thicker lines to heavier objects (ass over drapery folds), objects closer to the camera or important objects. seems like you did the reverse of it. which is kinda wrong?
>>6859403
literally read any perspective book? you can find it by simply extending any two parallel lines, where they cross is the VP and VP is usually on the horizon
>>6859304
now that is juicy ass
>>6859288
cute, thumbs up
>>6859247
research what are cross contours and next time you are coloring consider using crosshatching to both speed up the process and level up your art at the same time
>>6859237
completely flat. you need keys to drawing
>>6859215
SOUL
>>6859211
less thinking, more drawing. work habits. make a schedule where you MUST draw at 19:00 or you die. just draw
>>6859063
in terms of accuracy i havent encountered harder object to draw than a simple bottle: symmetrical, ellipses, anyone even people who dont draw can instantly tell you fucked up from single glance.
>>6859053
>>6859014
the jump from drawing from reference into drawing WITHOUT reference is massive. And it is something i will start training very soon myself. And almost no book i did so far even mentioned this topic.
>>6859038
soul, cute and interesting composition
>>6858790
i would copy it and move on. just as i did with all other art books

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 00:51:00 2023 No.6859604 >>6859596 >people usually put thicker lines to heavier objects (ass over drapery folds), objects closer to the camera or important objects. You know here I can find examples of that?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 00:57:49 2023 No.6859605 File: 121 KB, 788x471, Screenshot (138).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Any crits on my WIP so far? am i okay to continue?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 01:00:26 2023 No.6859608 File: 3.21 MB, 2842x3726, Polish_20230926_005722968.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] hello, /beg/ how does it look and how can I improve this pencil drawing? thanks in advance. I will post updates.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 01:01:11 2023 No.6859609 File: 142 KB, 789x470, Screenshot (139).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6859605 w/o shadows on black background

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 01:02:12 2023 No.6859612 >>6859608 move on and practice the structure/shape of the head.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 01:05:17 2023 No.6859613 >>6859605 hmm, background doesn't give a good contrast, try adding a background and shade it later

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 01:57:17 2023 No.6859668 File: 84 KB, 500x500, kris.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] worked on a fun caricature today. Can people recognize that it's chris d'elia? anything obviously wrong with it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 02:15:18 2023 No.6859685 >>6859668 chris has a pointy face and you gave him a big chin cartoon/caricature is supposed to exagerate what is already there not make shit up

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 03:19:14 2023 No.6859756 >>6858867 Figure Drawing: Design and Invention

Anonymous Tue Sep 26 03:30:50 2023 No.6859774
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>>6858904
>>6858890
>>6858868
halfway point of the sphere is the brow line/top of the ears
2/3 of the way up the sphere is the hairline
2/3 of the way down the sphere is the noseline/bottom of the ears

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 04:27:20 2023 No.6859812 File: 182 KB, 1964x2160, cubes71.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] day 71 >muh gesture muh dynamic poses ok, but can you guys draw static poses? That's actual art >>6859304 >>6858934 peak

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 04:37:12 2023 No.6859825 File: 214 KB, 547x639, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I fucked up the eye level

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 04:49:04 2023 No.6859842 >>6859812 what did your day 1 look like?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 04:52:53 2023 No.6859847 >>6859842 don't ask

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 04:58:35 2023 No.6859852 >>6859812 why do you put your twitter on all of these but never put these on your twitter?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 04:59:47 2023 No.6859853 >>6859852 >but never put these on your twitter i dont like them

Anonymous Tue Sep 26 05:03:01 2023 No.6859857

To any artist who does feet, how do you figure out where to place wrinkles or is there any methods used to know where to place wrinkles? I have been trying to search/ look for guides on this but I can’t find any or no one has posted any guides on this matter which i kind of find weird lmao. But yeah learning to draw feet isn’t too bad for bow but i have no idea how to properly place wrinkles

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 05:50:29 2023 No.6859889 If I can't draw at all, how long will it take to learn pixel art so I can make my own vidya game?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 06:26:22 2023 No.6859908 >>6859889 A year or you can do what the vampire survivors guy did and trace other people's stuff but make it pixelated

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 06:39:30 2023 No.6859917 >>6858224 (You) >>6858756 bump

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 06:41:53 2023 No.6859918 >>6859608 cute

Anonymous Tue Sep 26 06:55:39 2023 No.6859927

>>6859604
nta but there was a Marc Brunet video that explained the same thing. You should thicken the lines that intersect especially if they're separations between two different objects.
On your picture the ass is thickened but it should be at the edge of her jacket instead, for example. When I started doing this it completely changed the way I was drawing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 06:59:29 2023 No.6859930 >>6859908 How do I make a traced art into pixels? Just divide it into squares?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 07:05:03 2023 No.6859933 File: 125 KB, 761x526, Screenshot (147).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] mostly finished with this one (besides minor clean ups here and there) any crits before is complete?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 07:06:24 2023 No.6859935 File: 916 KB, 910x608, Screenshot (151).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] also bump

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 07:14:41 2023 No.6859943 File: 117 KB, 697x1000, F67rpK0akAA2BDE.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Redline this. >Protip you cant.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 07:48:45 2023 No.6859959 File: 534 KB, 1284x1297, gytresrdtygujkl;.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 07:53:19 2023 No.6859962 >>6859519 pretty based

Anonymous Tue Sep 26 08:34:02 2023 No.6859969
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DAB "rough perspective"

It's another tedious exercise. I only do a max of 20 minutes a day so I don't burn out. Actually on some days it's easier to do stuff like this than to "actually draw", because there's no pressure, you basically just follow instructions. But on other days it's kind of just a bore.

When I had points near the horizon line I pretty much always messed up the stuff.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 08:50:59 2023 No.6859979 >>6859568 notan? >>6859596 I think it's time to draw something that has meaning to you. Try to apply what you've learned.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 08:52:00 2023 No.6859981 File: 497 KB, 1600x1200, 20230925gesture.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] some scribbles as i was watching proko. going to try do some 30 second gesture drawings. what do you focus on? i have a hard time staying relax doing timed gestures

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 09:04:27 2023 No.6859986 >>6859981 Just give yourself more time, found 2 minutes good.

Anonymous Tue Sep 26 09:04:40 2023 No.6859987

>>6859981
The thing with 30 second gestures is that you're going to do 20 of them in 10 minutes, so it really doesn't matter if you mess one up.
Just "focus" on capturing the movement on the pose, and forget the specific drawing as soon as you turn the page.

Anonymous Tue Sep 26 09:14:25 2023 No.6859992
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What's a good "max time" to set for a drawing for a /beg/? I feel like going further on this one would just be turd polishing

I started it for keys to drawing exercise 3-A, but I feel like the head would hang off the page, so I kinda feel like I failed in that regard. Using sighting techniques for a photo on my phone feels stupid though. It's not ideal.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 10:39:12 2023 No.6860040 File: 1.14 MB, 1200x1200, badedgecontrol.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6858736 Hey. Tried to introduce some edge control and composition changes

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 10:52:00 2023 No.6860056 how do you turn 2 floating boxes into an actual body

Anonymous Tue Sep 26 10:55:27 2023 No.6860062
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ive done nothing but drawabox since i had my melty over pic rel and i deleted the file and im looking at the screenshot i took before i deleted it and it doesnt look so bad maybe i will just finish it? ill probably just keep doing drawabox though

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 10:58:09 2023 No.6860068 >>6860056 draw the rest.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 12:10:56 2023 No.6860129 >>6860068 how

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 12:35:14 2023 No.6860150 How do i stop breaking pens in anger? One of these days i'll do it to a real expensive pen and will cry because of the financial loss.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 12:42:08 2023 No.6860153 File: 245 KB, 799x833, image-13.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Still gotta fix some stuff

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 13:21:38 2023 No.6860180 >>6860150 Stop being black

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 13:23:37 2023 No.6860184 Should I do inktober? I've just been doing Bridgman, so a solid bit of it would be inking my sketches.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 13:25:44 2023 No.6860187 >>6860153 Questionable head structure.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 13:28:25 2023 No.6860188 >>6860068 Bridge the two masses and draw the rest.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 13:29:06 2023 No.6860189 why won't anyone critique my art?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 13:29:51 2023 No.6860191 >>6860189 >new ip Because you don't pyw?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 13:32:01 2023 No.6860194 File: 609 KB, 2631x1575, why.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Doesn't matter how many women I draw, how much I try, it always looks like garbage. What is the secret to drawing people?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 13:35:43 2023 No.6860200 File: 267 KB, 1143x1219, sketch309.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Ah, feels like I finally broke the art block. Drawing feels fun.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 13:46:09 2023 No.6860212 >>6860200 Well done anon. I think you are a bit too lost in the anatomy though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 13:49:08 2023 No.6860215 >>6860200 based fellow musclegirl appreciator

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 13:50:09 2023 No.6860216 >>6860194 Stop guessing and start looking at reference of areas you're weak at.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 13:54:29 2023 No.6860219 >>6860212 Comfy zone drawing to get back on track :) (but tru)

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 13:54:32 2023 No.6860220 File: 65 KB, 1000x473, tiresome.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6860216 Maybe I should just buy a chinese kid and make it pose for me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 13:55:42 2023 No.6860223 >>6860194 Maybe you're still weak at drawing basic forms

Anonymous Tue Sep 26 13:56:55 2023 No.6860224

>>6860194
Looking at that I somehow doubt men you draw are a sight to behold. Might as well learn to draw people. Pick one of the many books meant for learning to draw people. I personally did How to Draw Comics the Marvel Way. I'm sure the others frequently reccomended on here are also good. Also there are plenty of courses and guides online you could try.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 14:00:12 2023 No.6860227 >>6860220 There's no helping you.

Anonymous Tue Sep 26 14:02:03 2023 No.6860229

I don't even think its about drawing anymore. I just seem to be stuck in a mental mind dungeon of glass eye camera torture and repetition. I've tried it and quit it like thrice already before i barely even did anything and the same thing happens whenever i try anything else too. I don't think i can actually do anything. It seems to be like a physics upper limit rule like the speed of light shit. I don't wanna just do nothing but i can't do anything. What do i do really?
I've done all that bullshit with going to the gym and taking cold showers but it didn't free me from the glass eye camera torture dungeon of repetition.

Anonymous Tue Sep 26 14:05:00 2023 No.6860233

>>6860229
Like i have never learnt a single skill to any degree beyond absolute beginner yet. There's no previous incident i could use to support a thesis that i am in fact capable of learning. I don't have enough confidence to lie to myself and say that i do can do stuff even though all the evidence accessible leads me to believe otherwise.

Sorry for spam this is the last one i just don't know what to do.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 14:05:54 2023 No.6860234 >>6860229 some people are just ngmi from the start, I guess

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 14:11:02 2023 No.6860241 >>6860229 This feels like it belongs on >>>/adv/ in the /gioyc/ thread. I dunno man either you draw or you don't. Keep trying different sources for what you're struggling with and hopefully one clicks.

Anonymous Tue Sep 26 14:13:27 2023 No.6860243

>>6860234
Wish it weren't true.
>>6860241
True. I don't think its the sources that are the issue. I've done all the good ones and i did do inherit some knowledge from them. Like Loomis and Keys to drawing. The issue is that i always fizzle out and drop out of them not even 1/4th the way through so even though i've started many of the well-regarded courses i haven't learnt that much from any of them.
I also did the Brent Evinston gesture drawing course but i didn't even get to the actual drawing part of that one. Most i did were the action lines.
The answer is that i just need to get busy and get grinding and all that but even though i do know that i never end up doing anything

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 14:15:02 2023 No.6860245 Drew hundreds of boxes when I was doing draw a box and now I can't draw them after going a few months without grinding them (^:

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 14:16:49 2023 No.6860246 File: 484 KB, 765x1020, 1695737745732.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Doesn't quite look like my ref but I'd still date her

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 14:17:11 2023 No.6860247 >>6860243 I am lucky in that my chosen text right now (Bridgman) is still fun and I like the resulting drawings. Helps if you can find something like that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 14:19:04 2023 No.6860251 >>6860187 Ya I think I drew one side the head more tilted than the other.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 14:20:36 2023 No.6860253 >>6860247 I tried Brigman too but was told that its pointless until your line control is good enough that you can copy it accurately. So i dropped that one too.

Anonymous Tue Sep 26 14:25:37 2023 No.6860259

>>6860243

I don't think it's an issue of you being incapable of learning, because you aren't complete shit. But it's a problem of your character. I don't know how old you are, but people who become good at some point are usually pretty full of themselves to the point where they are super blind to how bad they are, but that's what keeps them going. They feel like they are the shit, and they want to prove that they are the shit.

I used to draw like shit and I thought I was the best in the world, or if not best in the world, I was going to be. That's how cocky I was. And I kinda still am, even though I know I'm objectively not the best (not even close). Sure, I had a big dip in my confidence when I was somewhere in between 25-28 when I realized I'm not that good, but I was down for a second and then I bit the bullet and start to work my ass of to not be shit.

If this makes any sense. Imo. you just need to be cocky and believe in yourself truly. But if that's not something you have, then I don't know what to do. :D

Regards me: >>6860200

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 14:29:07 2023 No.6860263 >>6860253 >>6860259 Sounds like shite advice. I started studying bridgman when I was 15 or something, and thanks to that my anatomy is pretty dope.

Anonymous Tue Sep 26 14:30:02 2023 No.6860265

>>6860253
I really wasn't good at copying when I started Bridgman either but I don't think that actually matters. The point of practicing something is to improve it, if you could already copy with a good degree of accuracy then you shouldn't be grinding copies.

Anonymous Tue Sep 26 14:31:14 2023 No.6860267

>Try studying the Google doc
>Get bored and stop and fuck up the first drawing
>Try studying Loomis
>Legit suck at basic trig and can't understand how to construct heads and can't understand how it works
>Get visually overestimulated with sketches and all the lines and interconnected parts
>Have tons of ideas in my head but just give up as soon as I try putting them to paper
>All I can do for drawing is just drawing circles until I get bored and look at my phone >Autistic
>ADHD
>Left handed
Am I legitimately just too retarded to be an artist? I can't ever focus even with medicine.

Anonymous Tue Sep 26 14:33:46 2023 No.6860269

>>6860267

You probably started too late to be honest. None of these are an issue unless you are an adult who has already ruined his ability to concentrate through poor lifestyle. It's super hard to build quality habits as an adult.

How old are you and how good/bad are you currently?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 14:37:13 2023 No.6860275 File: 1.06 MB, 1219x812, Vilppu exercises.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6860267 Vilppu drawing manual. Doesn't get easier than beans and boxes.

Anonymous Tue Sep 26 14:37:58 2023 No.6860277

>>6860259
Used to have that cause i peaked early as far as intelligence goes. The i realised that being smarter than a bunch of high schoolers doesn't really make you smart at all so ive deemed my cockiness a flaw of character and worked it off.
I can't be cocky about my art since it does suck no matter how you look at it but im pretty confident about my ideas so we'll see.

>>6860265
>>6860263
Back to Bridgman then i suppose.
I'll just default to copying it whenevr i get too mad at exercises that require constant brainpower.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 14:41:13 2023 No.6860282 File: 3.58 MB, 4032x3024, 20230910_113903.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6860269 24 and my lines look like this. I've had to take medicine to help with my shaky hands thanks to my adderall. Now I'm trying as hard as I can.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 14:43:32 2023 No.6860284 File: 461 KB, 800x627, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6860282 try switching to the gesture grip

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 14:44:03 2023 No.6860285 >>6860282 why are you drawing straight lines? I told you to draw bean shapes. Why didn't you reply to me? Are you even looking for advice? You're killing me, anon...

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 14:45:57 2023 No.6860288 >>6860282 Oh, I just found this thread >>6836379 You psychotic loser

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 14:47:22 2023 No.6860291 File: 3.61 MB, 4032x3024, 20230910_113838.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6860285

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 14:48:56 2023 No.6860293 >>6860284 Ive never had a single bit of practice with gesture grip and I'm too used to the normal grip. This will make it worse for me.

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Anonymous Tue Sep 26 14:51:17 2023 No.6860297

>>6860277

Yeah I kinda meant being cocky about your art and your artistic skills. I bet everyone has a main character syndrome to a point. How old are you?

>>6860282

If your hands are shaking on adderall, you are most likely eating too much of it.

You should get familiar with this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjEFo3a1AnI

I too have ADHD and spergism, but once I started doing what daddy Palmer taught I had to quit my medication because it became too potent, and now I'm doing better than ever.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 14:52:22 2023 No.6860299 >>6860293 It's good if you want to draw a straighter line because if forces you to use your elbow, just try it

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 14:52:45 2023 No.6860300 >>6860297 >How old are you? 18

Anonymous Tue Sep 26 14:56:41 2023 No.6860307

>>6860297
I can't quit my medicine thanks to withdrawals. I have been taking propranolol now for my shaking since it is also connected my anxiety.
This is on top of a booster dosage I'm taking each day too. My mind and my body locks up and prevents me from actually doing anything. Usually either out of anxiety or my mind and my body simply just locking up and telling me "What the fucks the point"? And just making me look back at my phone again or just stimming and staring at a wall.

Legitimately NOTHING has worked. I felt better for a week and then nothing. This has gone back all the way since I was a teenager too. I had thyroid problems that got fixed, but this never got any better.
I don't know how to get the motivation to do anything. Even when I do happen to try my hardest in doing something, it's always half as good or even just 2% as good as anybody else doing the same thing, because me being purely retarded and unable to learn or focus. Even when I try, nothing good happens. My entire body feels sore and I rest for the whole day. I've been working out for 2 years and lost 20 pounds as well.

So tell me, what the fuck should I do?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 14:58:29 2023 No.6860309 >>6860191 I did >>6859933 and >>6859935

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 14:59:14 2023 No.6860310 >>6860307 >So tell me, what the fuck should I do? Wean off the meds. Lift weights. Talk to girls. You don't need to draw lmao. Drawing is for nerds and won't make you happy. Go make friends and have a life.

Anonymous Tue Sep 26 14:59:20 2023 No.6860311

>>6860307

Reading all this: 100% watch the video I linked. Really do, it can change your life completely.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjEFo3a1AnI

>My guest this episode is Chris Palmer, M.D., a board-certified psychiatrist and assistant professor of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School. He explains the important connection between nutrition, metabolism and mental health and his pioneering work using the ketogenic diet to successfully treat patients with various mental illnesses, including depression and schizophrenia. Dr. Palmer explains how the ketogenic diet is an evidenced-based treatment for epilepsy, mimics the fasted state and can offset the cognitive decline in Alzheimer’s. He describes the key roles of mitochondria in mental health, how certain conditions likely arise from mitochondrial dysfunction, and how low-carbohydrate diets increase mitochondrial turnover to improve mental health. He also explains how low-carbohydrate diets positively impact the gut microbiome and weight loss, important risk factors for mitochondrial health such as marijuana and alcohol, and the best way to increase circulating ketones depending on individual needs. We also cover how a ketogenic diet impacts mood, sleep, and fertility. Dr. Palmer’s work stands as a revolutionary approach to mental health and disease that, given the prevalence of mental health challenges, should be of interest to people of all backgrounds and ages.

I've been in psychosis, I've had daily panic attacks, I have ADHD, autism, weird parasomnias, arthritis, etc. All cured with this. Why? Because it's all caused by mitochondrial dysfcuntion. And you seem like an other fellow with similar problems. Watch the video. It's long, but it can cure you. Dude has put multiple drug resistant schizophrenias into remission for example.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 15:00:21 2023 No.6860312 >>6860309 you're really good, anon. No critique

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 15:02:17 2023 No.6860315 >>6860311 Keto cures schizophrenia? Interesting but doubtful... I'm nta but I'll give it a listen

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 15:05:14 2023 No.6860317 >>6860309 Introducing more contrast on the first one might help

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 15:09:20 2023 No.6860319 >>6860311 >>6860297 This is pseudoscientfic garbage and has never been shown to work.

Anonymous Tue Sep 26 15:11:24 2023 No.6860324
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So I decided to follow the Burne Hogarth Figure Drawing book...I basically just kinda studied the drawings he showed on each page the best I could...

Some of the results I was somewhat "Oh, this doesn't look too bad", but for others I am like "How come I can't make this look right? Why does it look so flat/symbol like?", I dunno what I am doing still much of the time And I seem to struggle a lot with creating the curves of arms, like my curves never seem to curve properly and always look too wide or narrow.

Would appreciate some critiques but please have them be useful, and I'm sure I'll be told to go do something else.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 15:15:52 2023 No.6860328 >>6859304 ngmi's don't know how good this is.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 15:19:36 2023 No.6860335 >>6860311 Has any of this ever been shown to work at all?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 15:22:15 2023 No.6860341 >>6860328 Beautiful post, no notes.

Anonymous Tue Sep 26 15:24:37 2023 No.6860345

>>6860315

Yup, because like epilepsy, it's caused by mitochondrial dysfunction:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0149763414002887

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33221354/

Your brains mitochondria are dysfunctional > they have a hard time producing ATP from glucose, but ketones are more easier to use, so once you start feeding them ketones, it restores your brains energy production > mental health issue gone.

In the vidya Chris Palmer explains how the ketogenic diet has been studied for +100 years and is an evidence based treatment for epilepsy. And funnily enough, all old antipsychotic medicine are epilepsy drugs. Why? Same cause.

>>6860319

Pseudoscience provided by americas leading psychiatrists and neuroscientists. :D

>>6860335

Yup. All evidence packed in the video. Also, me: n=1.

Anonymous Tue Sep 26 15:32:04 2023 No.6860363

>>6860315
>>6860319
>>6860335

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qV1bD_bGLnI

Shorter (14min) video of Palmer talking about bipolar, metabolism, mitochondria and how ketosis treats it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0Q-nVWJ-Pk

Highly credited scientists talking about metanl health x metabolic health (6 min)

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 15:32:45 2023 No.6860366 File: 59 KB, 1403x948, qrrrrr.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Guys I only ever do this how do I get out of gesture hell and draw something finished

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 15:32:56 2023 No.6860367 >>6860363 Where's the part in the video where he explains how you get started doing this?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 15:34:03 2023 No.6860370 >>6860229 pyw faggot.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 15:34:18 2023 No.6860371 >>6860363 NTA but I'm to poor for keto diet, it's over. Like who can afford to only eat meat all day?

Anonymous Tue Sep 26 15:35:32 2023 No.6860373
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>>6860324
you seem quite new, and it doesn't feel fair for me to draw over your work yet, but i hope you get something out of this. Main thing you need to work on is proportion, which Hogarth conveniently never covers. I know you implied you didn't want to switch to something else, but I think you could get a lot out of combining multiple figure drawing books together. I like Loomis (Figure drawing for all it's worth) and Bridgman a lot.

Also, to practice figure drawing, you need to do a massive amount of observational drawing. Get on quickposes.com and do that every day for an hour, 5-10 minute poses. When you exhaust the images there, buy photo packs from grafit studio or some other seller and draw from those

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 15:35:56 2023 No.6860374 >>6860366 studying anatomy would be a good start because your anatomy is shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 15:37:22 2023 No.6860377 Actually reading bridgman‘s words is pretty useful No idea why people suggest just copying the drawings and nothing more

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 15:38:03 2023 No.6860379 >>6860374 what book should I use (I'm retarded)

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 15:39:07 2023 No.6860382 >>6860379 >>1579290

Anonymous Tue Sep 26 15:39:34 2023 No.6860383

>>6860367

It's hard to do. You need to watch all of it.

But TL;DR: eat less than 20 grams of carb per day. Eat lots of fat - atleast 75% of your calories should come from fat (keep in mind fat gram = 9 kcal). And eat the normal amount of protein you normally eat.

Once your body is depleted of glucose, you will start shifting into ketosis. And the shifting period at first will feel awful. And it can last up to two weeks. But after you are ketoadapted, you will unlock your brain. I didn't know my brain can work this well, nor that I could live mental health issue free. But here we are.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 15:41:53 2023 No.6860384 >>6860371 I live on welfare and I'm on keto. 400 grams of minced beef, 6-8 eggs, some bacon and lots of butter and cream. It's super cheap.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 15:45:57 2023 No.6860390 You fucks probably just eat and drink too much processed shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 15:48:53 2023 No.6860400 >>6860390 That causes mitochondrial dysfunction due to insulin resistance + seed oils being toxic. But it can't always be reversed just by eating more cleanly, hence ketosis.

Anonymous Tue Sep 26 15:48:58 2023 No.6860401
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ok so i tried a different approach.
instead of sitting there miticulously trying to recreate the skulls in loomis' book with utmost fidelity as previously>>6857699
i just now sat down, plugged the tablet in, opened the program, didnt look at the book for a second today, and constructed a skull as loomis says. 3 minutes.
why didnt i do this before.
so i have no idea how to draw the features, loomis says not to worry about it for now. BUT THEN ON THE NEXT PAGE he asks of you to construct a proper jaw and cheekbones. how am i supposed to do that. thats what had me caught up for hours and hours of frustration last time.
with this skull the jaw is elongated outwards, i know, ill make it better with the next one. but i cant draw cheekbones and a jaw and eye sockets like loomis does in his book.
i dont know. i guess i keep trying and getting mad. at least i have now proven to myself im not a retard and i shouldnt kill myself (yet)

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 15:54:09 2023 No.6860408 >>6860383 But don't I need stuff like my autism to hyperfocus?

Anonymous Tue Sep 26 15:57:37 2023 No.6860412

>>6860373
Thank you for this! And Sure I'll try Loomis and Bridgman after I am done with Hogarth.

I'll also do QuickPoses too. One of my major issues btw is my workflow is very all over the place, I seem to lack the ability to do one stage as I keep jumping back and forth...it's weird.

I try also to not like copy the shapes of the muscles and such, but it's very hard for me not to, I just sorta look at the shape and "copy" it flatly. How do you get out of that?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 15:58:47 2023 No.6860416 >>6860384 Sounds incredibly fattening and awful.

Anonymous Tue Sep 26 15:59:08 2023 No.6860418
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today's 30 sec gestures

>>6858926
You're getting there, but you're trying to hard to make objects look like they make instead of capturing the light, guide yourself purely by the shape of the light on the image instead of what the object looks like
>>6859053
go sit in a cafe and draw people passing by, get used to drawing the base very quickly from your initial impression and making up the story as you go, for this, try to get as many drawings done instead of a few polished ones.
>>6859088
nice
>>6859419
it doesn't look bad, but the dimension of your shapes are barely passable and will probably mess up the later stages of the drawing, work on drawing boxes and objects in 3d space
>>6859608
placement and proportions are off, as other anon said, move on and do more heads. Shading looks good but don't do that shit for hair, makes the drawing look much shittier, just do flow lines until you work on it properly
>>6859981
nice, but try to make less, more purposeful lines instead, its easy to think your shapes look good when you have a million different ways to read the shape
>>6860200
i like it

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 15:59:52 2023 No.6860421 >>6860416 NTA but it sounds awful because you've been conditioned your entire life to think that fat is bad for you.

Anonymous Tue Sep 26 16:06:49 2023 No.6860429

>>6860416

It's the exact opposite. People lose a fuckload of weight, sometimes alarming amounts. People gain weight so easily nowdays due to insulin resistance, and once you hop on a diet which doesn't spike your insulin like a carb rich diet, you lose weight like a motherfucker even if you eat more calories than you used to - but usually you don't, because fat and protein are super satiating compared to carbs.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 16:08:29 2023 No.6860431 Can you please fuck off back to /fit/?

Anonymous Tue Sep 26 16:09:31 2023 No.6860435

>>6860408
I have only found positive effects on my focus. And you'll still be a sperg, many negative sperg traits are just boosted by mitochondrial dysfunction:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5137782/

>Mitochondrial Dysfunction in Autism Spectrum Disorders

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 16:18:51 2023 No.6860448 >>6860401 good job anon! now do 150 more of those :)

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 16:20:05 2023 No.6860449 >>6860379 The Vilppu and Huston courses are really good for anatomy. You can find them in the video course thread for free. Good luck anon!

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 16:28:14 2023 No.6860462 >>6860412 don't worry, all your worries will go away as you keep drawing and observing carefully. Copy your Bridgman and Hogarth, draw from photos, and make time to draw from imagination too, to test what you learned

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 16:31:24 2023 No.6860472 >>6860400 Drop the soda, cook your own meals from scratch.

Anonymous Tue Sep 26 16:32:01 2023 No.6860473

To any trad artists here, where do you like your sketchbook positioned vertically? I am used to mine being halfway between elbow and shoulder level if I were to let my arm hang by my side, but I adjusted my desk and chair so that it's just below elbow level today.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 16:32:58 2023 No.6860476 >>6860472 Read what I said, dumb fuck. You can't cure schizophrenia by dropping soda and cooking your own meals, but you can cure it through ketosis. Yes, that works for mild depression, but that's not what everyone is dealing with.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 16:38:33 2023 No.6860488 File: 345 KB, 1404x1124, fuckbridgman.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm ngmi

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 16:39:19 2023 No.6860491 >>6860488 these are pretty good to me

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 16:39:42 2023 No.6860492 >>6860488 Why? Proportions are off, but there's form in the right drawing

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 16:39:49 2023 No.6860493 >>6860473 i draw in bed with my sketchbook resting on me thighs simple as

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 16:39:59 2023 No.6860494 File: 338 KB, 1243x1097, smut2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] shit thread's almost dead and i haven't posted yet uhhhh have some /d/ tier parasite stuff

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 16:41:58 2023 No.6860498 >>6860488 you're ngmi. i however amalso not going to make it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 16:42:59 2023 No.6860501 >>6860498 fuck 4chan and no i wont fix it deal with it

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 16:43:50 2023 No.6860502 >>6860494 Good thing you aren't trad, you'd have chicken scratched right through the paper

Spooky Tue Sep 26 16:47:54 2023 No.6860508 [DELETED]

>>>/vg/447875110
Artificial Academy 2 General /aa2g/ #1293
Ready to Serve Edition

Welcome, this general is for the discussion of ILLUSION's Artificial Academy 2.

COPY ERROR MESSAGES WITH CTRL+C, PASTE THEM WITH CTRL+V INTO GOOGLE TRANSLATE. JUST CLICK THE WINDOW AND PRESS CTRL + C, IT WORKS.

>Downloads:
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AAUnlimited updates: https://github.com/aa2g/AA2Unlimited/releases

>Information:
AA2Mini Install Guide:
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General FAQ:
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>Character Cards [Database], now with a list of every NonOC in the megas:
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https://db.bepis.moe/aa2/

>Mods & More:
Mods for AAU/AA2Mini (ppx format, the mediafire has everything):
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Booru: https://aau.booru.org

>HELP! I have a Nvidia card and my game crashes on startup!
Try the dgVoodoo option in the new win10fix settings.
Alternative: Update your AAU and see if it happens again. If so, disable win10fix, enable wined3d and software vertex processing.
>HELP! Required Windows 11 update broke things!
winkey+R -> ms-settings:developers -> Terminal=Windows Console Host

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>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 16:56:00 2023 No.6860519 >>6860508 wrong board

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 16:57:24 2023 No.6860523 File: 362 KB, 1500x835, stoody.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 16:58:40 2023 No.6860526 >>6860317 I see what you mean but I did it on purpose to give it a horror/creepy aspect. But I'll mess around with the contrast

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 17:02:35 2023 No.6860534 >>6860508 Your retarded misspost just gave me the idea to use koikatsu to pose, god bless your retardness.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 17:04:58 2023 No.6860539 File: 410 KB, 1229x1600, hip arms are fun.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6860502 but i have done trad before, anon, lots of times

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 17:06:49 2023 No.6860542 >>6860401 Do not be afraid of shoving the eyes into the head and letting the nose poke out.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 17:11:08 2023 No.6860550 >>6860476 Read what I said, dumb shizo fuck.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 17:27:02 2023 No.6860579 >>6860550 >Drop the soda, cook your own meals from scratch. And I said this doesn't work if you are a proper schizo.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 17:34:39 2023 No.6860593 File: 9 KB, 165x275, PAIN_FACES-1024x275~2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6860493

Anonymous Tue Sep 26 17:36:11 2023 No.6860596 [DELETED]

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yo beg. i forced myself to complete this dumb pic because i'm trying to get used to composition with colour. i feel like i under saturated most of the bg because i wasn't sure how to balance it against the vibrant clothing colours. any tips or other critiques?

Anonymous Tue Sep 26 17:43:33 2023 No.6860615
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yo beg. i forced myself to complete this dumb pic because i'm trying to get used to composition with colour. i feel like i under saturated most of the bg because i wasn't sure how to balance it against the vibrant clothing colours. any tips or other critiques?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 17:47:16 2023 No.6860626 >>6860615 Do it, pull the trigger, you fucking pussy. End my life.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 17:48:39 2023 No.6860629 >>6860579 You're the only one who's talking about schizophrenia.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 17:49:15 2023 No.6860631 >>6860501 You can't spoiler on ic newfag.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 17:51:08 2023 No.6860635 >>6860615 I like your colors, but the orange form doesn't read too well. Is is a backpack or a sleeve? Also I think you need to rotate the trigger finger.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 17:51:59 2023 No.6860637 >>6860631 thanks for the info oldfag

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 18:05:18 2023 No.6860657 >>6860635 yeah, you're right. it's his backpack. reference pic had his gun off-centre in a less forced perspective so you could see the top of the sleeve behind it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 18:15:02 2023 No.6860664 File: 519 KB, 2250x1626, I don't get it.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6860194 Still trying, maybe one day I will get it.

Anonymous Tue Sep 26 18:36:52 2023 No.6860686

Nothing puts me off drawing more than the commonly put forward idea that you need two thousand hours in it to get good.

That's such a major timeframe that i might as well do it tomorrow or next week. I dont wanna chisel away at a mountain, that's such a discouraging picture. I gym thrice a week because i dont have an idea that ill be strong once ive been there a thousand times and anything beforehand barely even mattered. I just go there, put on some music, do my sets, and get some tasty snack afterwards.
For some reason i can't do the same with drawing. Been thinking about it daily for the last three years but ive done probably less than 50hours of actual work since then. Shit is fucked.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 18:42:47 2023 No.6860695 File: 13 KB, 302x402, 1529865380443.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6860686 >you need two thousand hours in it to get good

Anonymous Tue Sep 26 18:44:36 2023 No.6860700
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just checking in, having fun and trying to find some compositions

>>6860686
you know what to do.

>>6860523
based, keep up

>>6860246
I say, based, I like nerdy, shyer chicks, looks like shes really immersed in your story

>>6860200
gigabased

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 18:47:14 2023 No.6860705 >>6860700 >you know what to do. Just draw only works for people who actually enjoy scrubbing away at it. Its not possible to extract that sort of joy when you're a grown ass man whose skill gets mogged by middle school genshin enthusiasts

Anonymous Tue Sep 26 18:55:32 2023 No.6860715

>>6860705
i literally know people who picked up drawing and got better than i am and or ever will be in two weeks or less. I can't even not do it cause i get plagued by cool drawing ideas that i will never commit to or be able to commit to so i just inflict mind torture upon myself while doing nothing to alleviate it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 18:55:52 2023 No.6860717 >>6860686 You wish it only took 2000 hours to get good.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 18:56:57 2023 No.6860718 >>6860717 I wish it took one afternoon but even then i probably wouldn't be able to accomplish it., It is beyond over sadly.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 18:58:16 2023 No.6860719 >>6860715 I bet your ideas are tame.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 18:58:21 2023 No.6860720 >>6860686 >>6860695 >he doesn't know it takes atleast 10 000 hours

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 19:00:15 2023 No.6860722 >>6860719 Well then i have nothing. I do think they're a bit cool for what's it worth but probably not worth commiting to thousands of hours of practice specially that i can't even do like 20 or 10 or 2

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 19:01:56 2023 No.6860727 File: 109 KB, 1035x1273, 20230926_135739~2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Glue sniffing Übermensch

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 19:02:31 2023 No.6860728 >>6860727 how did you do that

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 19:05:02 2023 No.6860734 >>6860728 I start off every morning by scrolling on my phone for 45 minutes, jerk off, make myself breakfast, then as a reward for doing breakfast I scroll through my phone for another half hour.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 19:06:15 2023 No.6860735 >>6860734 same except i don't draw after doing all that

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 19:08:46 2023 No.6860737 File: 105 KB, 662x1320, Screenshot_20230915-003225_1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Crits?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 19:14:33 2023 No.6860744 >>6860737 Needs more loomis

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 19:52:29 2023 No.6860792 File: 649 KB, 2048x1540, thing.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] fucked it up again

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 20:01:28 2023 No.6860805 >>6860792 its mindbogling that people can actually do that with a simple gpen. Couldn't have imagined that you could do that if i hadn't seen that you do can.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 20:04:59 2023 No.6860811 >>6860328 i think

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 20:12:36 2023 No.6860820 >>6860792 Mouth and the gun are the weakest parts.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 20:20:58 2023 No.6860828 File: 1.04 MB, 1800x2820, 20230926_225620.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] All im doing on this for now like the pens doe

Anonymous Tue Sep 26 20:28:44 2023 No.6860837

>>6860629

Because I'm helping a dude with severe mental health issues, dropping the soda and cooking your own meals is a good start, but it isn't enough. Atleast it isn't enough in my severe case on top of extremely heavy lifting. Once I went keto I got my life back.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 21:01:00 2023 No.6860883 >>6860805 >gpen it's all markers, I think the lines would be way more tapered if I did it with a pen

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 21:32:26 2023 No.6860944 wish i had the skill to draw the things i want to draw...................

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 21:40:31 2023 No.6860950 File: 1.28 MB, 1405x1000, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6858920 Certainly didn't get much out of this study, but I had fun rendering it

Anonymous Tue Sep 26 22:08:05 2023 No.6860981

>>6860944
I wish I had a million dollars. The difference between me and a millionaire is that the millionaire decided to put in the work needed to make it a reality (ignoring the ones born into wealth/influence, you know what I mean).

Take consideration for what 'would be nice if it happened' vs what you're willing to grit your teeth and make the necessary sacrifices to attain. Truth is, I don't really want a million dollars. Not in the same way that I want to get better at drawing. If you want something you gotta work for it.

Anonymous Tue Sep 26 22:33:08 2023 No.6861021
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Hello beg. Final part of car chapter!

>>6860950
this is very cool
>>6860792
the gun and her head arent aligned and the gun is all sorts of deformed. but i dont blame you. drawing correct ellipse in correct plane aligned with other object is one of the hardest perspective skills there is
>>6860700
good to know teddy anon is still around. i hope you wont dispensary like most begs do and keep supplying beg with teddies!
>>6860615
this is... very cool and competent like. sure it is very hasty and rough at places, but it only adds to its charm. and the halo like effect from background, thats like you outright stole it from how alphone mucha draws. i kneel
>>6860523
did you draw her twice or why did the hair texture vanished on right?
>>6860494
>faux penis parasite
i kneel
>>6860229
that is a lot of words and not a single work posted
>>6860189
you are in that weird spot between BEG and INT where you arent good enough for crabs trying to crab you or anons to praise you, yet you arent bad enough to point out easy mistakes. The solution is always the same: draw more (+ consider doing master studies)
>>6859933
desperately needs some white highlights, generally its too dark and composition is super bland static
>>6859935
this one needs a lot of work: the flowers are flat (you dont have to paint EVERY petal, just enough to give illusion of plasticity) and the dudes shirt is too dark. Even 100% black clothes in sunny days have visible folds and darker and brighter spots. the flying petals are cool, but again not rendered enough to instantly tell what we are looking at. Value range on his skin is wrong: shade areas have as bright spots and areas in direct light
>>6860200
i kneel
>>6860150
put anger on your canvas, not into your tools
>>6859943
i kneel and coom
>>6859917
put more effort into your doodles before asking for feedback. like what are we supposed to say?
>>6859604
even keys to drawing talks about it. it is visible in practically ALL good art

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 22:40:00 2023 No.6861026 File: 159 KB, 1000x661, hand_exercise15.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 22:48:22 2023 No.6861032 File: 28 KB, 360x316, 136139108353.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6861026 How do you get that much line confidence?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 22:59:45 2023 No.6861048 >>6861021 >weird middle ground Nta but I can notice improvements in my art to what seems like a significant degree to me, but still never get interaction. I think I am at least close to int, so I think my drawings must just be boring to people.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 23:00:35 2023 No.6861050 File: 831 KB, 2416x1358, Illustration.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 23:02:32 2023 No.6861053 >>6861050 I wish horrible things upon you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 23:20:15 2023 No.6861070 File: 134 KB, 1311x892, Bridge.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Time for some Bridgemans

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 23:36:00 2023 No.6861087 File: 53 KB, 634x745, owl.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] wow amazing literally draw the rest of the fucking owl meme I thought vilppu was supposed to be good?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 23:45:45 2023 No.6861098 I'm going through man of bridg and I'm wondering, is his anatomy accurate or is the book just supposed to teach you about overlapping and wedging of forms (also how to simplify it)?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 26 23:52:36 2023 No.6861102 >>6861053 cry about it

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 00:05:26 2023 No.6861110
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>>6861021
>you are in that weird spot between BEG and INT where you arent good enough for crabs trying to crab you or anons to praise you, yet you arent bad enough to point out easy mistakes.

great crit anon. really appreciate the effort you put into your responses.

and btw do you like this version of the drawing more?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 00:06:45 2023 No.6861111 >>6861048 What's your work anon?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 00:09:16 2023 No.6861112 >>6859917 study armpit anatomy

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 00:21:31 2023 No.6861124 >>6861070 Bridgman, mouthbreather

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 00:36:11 2023 No.6861146 File: 171 KB, 764x769, imagem_2023-09-26_213554612.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I stopped giving a fuck

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 01:14:49 2023 No.6861177
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proko gesture lesson 1, 5 minute gesture 4/5 vs 41/42. not much improvement, still too many lines and too much contour, without exaggeration. obviously not there yet but when is it recommended to move on from lesson 1? only after able to replicate proko's 2m gestures? or do the later lessons teach how to get there with this being the introduction?

>>6861026
>>6860727
>>6860700
nice

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 01:38:58 2023 No.6861194 How the fuck do you people draw lines jesus christ, I feel like my hand eye coordination is absolutely fucked.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 02:58:15 2023 No.6861287 File: 154 KB, 670x615, Screenshot (152).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] critique please

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 03:21:55 2023 No.6861307

>>6861287
Think about your line weight a bit harder. Is your goal to force people's eyes into the crook between the delt amd tricep/bicep? Also, feels very jarring having his body be extremely lean with an absolute ton of forms and features depicted and then going to the hands / head / forearm. They look unfinished when compared. Anatomy looks good for the most part.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 03:24:50 2023 No.6861311 >>6861177 I was going to try to say something about your priorities in those sketches but honestly, gesture makes no fucking sense to me.

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 04:03:37 2023 No.6861345
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day 72
confidence is attractive
I wish I could redline some stuff posted here but I'm so tired I can barely think

>>6860153
im usually a fan of your drawings but this one missess the mark, I would honestly start this drawing over, this time with a clear idea/gesture to base the whole drawing around, I think you went "piece by piece" while drawing this one which is why it simply looks unappealing

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 04:30:57 2023 No.6861359 >>6861021 >>6861112 Thank you

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 04:49:50 2023 No.6861372 >>6861345 Upload more of your practice you fucking faggot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 05:14:54 2023 No.6861396 >>6860700 Thank you >>6861021 >did you draw her twice yeah originally it was just the left but I decided to repurpose the sketch block-in and try a different rendering style but it was a huge fail

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 05:20:58 2023 No.6861398 >>6861110 NTA but I think you should have the falling leaves catch some of that light too or at least have more contrast to make the overall piece look nicer. They camouflage too much with the background imo.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 06:30:36 2023 No.6861437 >>6861032 It's all about the milage

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 06:54:42 2023 No.6861455 File: 1.64 MB, 2322x3194, 20230927_024430.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Tex Avery. Part of the Mount Rushmore of Cartooning.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 07:02:45 2023 No.6861461 File: 159 KB, 1000x475, WHAT.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hi, I was watching a youtube video of clipstudio paint and I was wondering about the workspace of the person, what is highlighted in red? and how to do it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 07:05:14 2023 No.6861463 >>6861461 Don't ever touch that, it calls the Decepticons and Godzilla and Ichi the Killer

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 07:08:00 2023 No.6861466 File: 1.87 MB, 2322x2797, 20230927_024506.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Scrappy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 07:09:11 2023 No.6861467 File: 1.80 MB, 2322x2996, 20230927_024613.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Damn sorry for not resizing

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 08:54:32 2023 No.6861523 >>6858612 >>6858612 What's a decent reference for beginning to draw buildings? I was in Paris a bit ago and walked near a lot of art students sketching and drawing the nearby buildings with astonishing fidelity, and I kind of want to do some of that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 08:54:38 2023 No.6861524 >>6861048 Pyw and I'll tell you where you stand t. /int/

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>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 12:47:41 2023 No.6861654 >>6861345 You are almost there Anon! Never give up!

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 12:52:30 2023 No.6861658 File: 129 KB, 1200x420, hand_exercise16.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Third day of hands

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 13:06:11 2023 No.6861670

Say I have a free ride for whatever in university, is industrial design worth anything? For context I'm already a 31yo boomer and have everything I'll need school and career wise, but a family member did some paperwork and gave me their GI bill which apparently just pays you to go to school. Like I assume everything art related is going to be digital centric, but I enjoy Sketching on paper in books. My goal would just be to lrn2draw in an academic setting, probably the university that would fit best would also be decent for networking if need be. Industrial design would do nothing for my career path and has nothing to do with my existing body of academic expertise, but I have been psyopped by cool mechanical drawings.

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 13:15:55 2023 No.6861681

>>6861675
new slop
>>6861675

>>6861675

>>6861523
literally every single perspective book
>>6861670
mechanical anything use programs like inventor, autocad, solid works or just any 3d modelling software ala zbrush or just blender. that wont teach you how to draw, it will teach you how to sculpt in that one software which will be endorsed by school / teacher.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 13:21:24 2023 No.6861686 File: 19 KB, 231x306, temp.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6861461 you can create arbitrary subtools by dragging brushes from the brush panel to the sidebar

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