/dtg/ - Drawing Tablet General

[Anonymous No.6856937]

This is a thread to discuss all kinds of digital drawing hardware.

Recommended tablets:
>Pen tablets (non display)
Wacom Intuos
Huion Inspiroy
Xencelab Pen Tablet
XP Pen Deco

>Display tablets
Wacom Cintiq
Huion Kamvas
XP-Pen Artist
Xencelab Pen display

>Mobile tablets
Wacom MobileStudio Pro (a bit old/outdated hardware)
Apple iPad Pro
Samsung Galaxy Tab
Surface Pro 8/9
Kamvas studio

>What tablets does /dtg/ use?
https://strawpoll.com/polls/NoZrLOmrDn3

>General guidelines when picking a tablet:
- All of the recommended models are part of large lines with multiple sizes/generations available. Buy the biggest/newest in your budget. Medium-Large pen tablets or 16-24" display tablets are considered the sweet spot by most artists.
- If you don't see a tablet you're interested in listed, ask about it. This isn't a definitive list, just one to give you an idea where to start looking.
- Avoid Chinese tablets 4+ years old or made by literally who brands like gaomon, ugee, parblo, etc. They were generally dogshit, and the reason Wacom had a monopoly for so many years. Newer models from huion and xp-pen are much better.
- Wacom is still the industry standard, but they're overpriced. Chinese brands have mostly caught up in the past few years and will provide a near identical user experience for a fraction of the price.

>Display Calibration tools:
https://www.eizo.be/monitor-test/
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/
https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/icc_profiles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avJTz1JhkR4
(Use this guide to roughly calibrate your display if you don't want to invest hundreds into a colorimeter you'll only use a few times)

Previous thread: >>6826660

[Anonymous No.6856963]

>>6856937
>ban evading chink moron makes a new thread 10 posts before his previous thread hits the bump limit
You are such a hypocrite lmao.

[Anonymous No.6857025]

I wonder what the Wacomguzzler uses to draw (not sure if he even draws) since Wacom uses China for manufacturing and he is adamant about bashing products made in China. Must be some insider premium tablet forged out of titanium that gets made in Wacoms headquarters they only give out to the most loyal customers.

[Anonymous No.6857039]

>>6857025
He doesn't even draw is the funniest part
dude's sitting in his containment thread talking to himself right now.

[Anonymous No.6857046]

>>6856937
Are Xenecelab tablets really worth the high price?

[Anonymous No.6857058]

>>6857039
Somehow the guzzling retard doesn't think it's obvious when he makes a thread and 5 comments instantly pop-up asking "real" questions about tablets, the mental illness is so real.

[Anonymous No.6857243]

>>6856937
>Recommended non display
>Wacom Intuos
The Pro or non pro?

[Anonymous No.6857257]

>>6857243
pro
The new base line replaced the bamboo line iirc and are pretty shit.
Same deal with the cintiq, pro only. Will update next thread

[Anonymous No.6857275]

>>6857257
Thanks

[Anonymous No.6857912]

>>6857046
the quality is good, but i don't think the price is worth it
fun fact, xencelabs was founded by ex wacom employees

[Anonymous No.6858117]

Ipad pro or samsung galaxy ultra?
14.6" sounds like it would be really nice, but how does whatever stylus samsung uses compare to the apple pencil?

[Anonymous No.6858277]

>>6857058
The problem is the mod doesn't know this and will randomly delete "duplicate" threads without context.

[Anonymous No.6858328]

I'm planning on buying a xp pen artist 15.6 pro. Am I doing a mistake? Is there a better display tablet with that size on that price range?

[Anonymous No.6858583]

>>6858277
Duplicate threads are just ones made 2nd aren't they?
>>6858328
In the price range. Your options are basically xp pen, huion, or used wacom. Just compare specs and see which sounds better.

[Anonymous No.6858607]

>>6858328
The older than 2020 15.6 Pro?
You could get XP-Pen 16 Gen 2 (non pro version) for cheaper usually and it's just as good to draw on. Downside is no knobs.

[Anonymous No.6858680]

>>6858328
Stop trying to cheap out and just get a wacom

[Anonymous No.6858724]

>>6858680
I wouldn't be trying if I had the cash, dumbass

[Anonymous No.6858728]

>>6858680
If you don't have anything worth to say, go back to schizoposting in your own thread guzzler

[Anonymous No.6858758]

>>6858607
Is the tablet obsolete? I plan to use it to animate

[Anonymous No.6858780]

>>6858758
which tablet?

[Anonymous No.6858895]

>>6858780
The xp-pen artist 15.6 pro

[Anonymous No.6858898]

>>6858895
It's technically obsolete as there are newer models, but that doesn't mean it will be unusable. Unless you're getting it for substantially less than more current ones though, I don't really see why you'd go with it

[Anonymous No.6859061]

>>6856937
Art cannot be made with tablets.
Picrel is very clearly neith let art or artful.

[Anonymous No.6859095]

>>6859061
okay

[Anonymous No.6859102]

I bought a huion kamvas pro 16 like a month ago and it actually blows. The shit drifts near the edges and the fucking texture disappeared within like two weeks. I'm getting my money back bros.

[Anonymous No.6859103]

>>6859102
post a picture of your tablet

[Anonymous No.6859119]

>>6859103

[Anonymous No.6859124]

>>6859119
nice
texture doesn't look any different to me, but if you hate it, return it and buy something else instead.
I can't imagine what you could do to etched glass to remove the texture from it with a plastic nib though

[Anonymous No.6859189]

>>6859124
The screen is no different than an ipad now. At first it was a very small spot in the middle of the screen, but every time I picked it up after it just kept growing until it was all gone. Not sure what to make of this, I kept it in its box when not in use.

[Anonymous No.6859209]

>>6859189
are you sure you bought a 16 pro and not a regular 16 that you peeled the matte screen protector off of thinking it was the protective film they send it with from the factory? 1 1/2 years later of drawing consistent and my 22 plus still feels the same.

[Anonymous No.6859213]

>>6859102
> buys chinkshit
>Chinkshit combusts
> surprised Pikachu face

[Anonymous No.6859324]

>6859213
fuck off guzzler

[Anonymous No.6859352]

>>6859209
100% bought a pro, still have the box. The texture was there for the brief amount of time that it was.

[Anonymous No.6859371]

>>6859352
I got nothing then, I have no clue how you managed to wear 16 inches of chemically etched glass perfectly smooth in 2 weeks with a thin piece of plastic.

[Anonymous No.6859395]

>>6859371
It's just my luck to get a shitty defective product when finally coughing up the big bucks. I guarantee you, my drawing of anime girls did not cause the screen to become smooth as regular glass.

[Anonymous No.6859414]

>>6859213
Isn't Wacom Chinese?

[Anonymous No.6859464]

>>6859395
Return it and get another, contact customer service, or just say fuck huion and buy something if you don't think another will work for you.

[Anonymous No.6859557]

>>6858758
It's still usable.

[Anonymous No.6859595]

>>6859414
the schizo op even finally acknowledged it lmao

[Anonymous No.6860203]

>>6858117
Bigger screen lends itself better for ui heavy programs like CSP
Infinite painter is also a good procreate alternative for Android. Unless you love gargling apple's balls, Samsung 100%.

[Anonymous No.6860308]

>>6859102
>>6859119
The glass would look visually different if it were smooth.

[Anonymous No.6860337]

Any way to convert .brush (procreate) to .abr (photoshop) ?
I don't have procreate but interested to use this brushes.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/c8hnns43r8cg091/Nikkos_Fav-5.brushset?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/84dt1zejej3t1l5/Rull%202013-03-27%20%2823.12.48-603%29.brush

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wo2bdlfx2u0psqn/Soft%20Rull%202013-03-27%20%2823.14.04-912%29.brush

https://www.dropbox.com/s/rqm46u3pwcwbyte/Spray%202013-03-27%20%2823.16.58-683%29.brush

https://www.dropbox.com/s/j8r3o6lh77ol38a/Pencil%202013-03-27%20%2823.17.38-476%29.brush

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qfizgsyr6tjil2p/Roughtexture%202013-03-27%20%2823.16.21-935%29.brush

Sauce: https://folio.procreate.com/discussions/10/28/22330

[Anonymous No.6860347]

>>6860337

[Anonymous No.6860460]

Girthy Huion monster vs. pencil-dick Wacum

[Anonymous No.6860475]

>XP-Pen Deco XS for 14 bucks on Aliexpress
Is drawing on your phone that bad? I couldn't try that with my cheapo Wacom One, so idk if i'll like it
Thought on buying one for drawing on the go/making notes on my phone, but I'm not too acquainted with digital (I work mostly /trad/)
Worth a try?

[Anonymous No.6860483]

>>6860475
If you just want to see if drawing digitally works for you, get a cheap MEDIUM tablet. If you don't like the feeling, tape a piece of nice paper to the surface of the tablet.
A small tablet will feel horrible no matter what.

[Anonymous No.6860485]

>>6860475
for $14 you're not out much, but why not just get a stylus for your phone instead?

[Anonymous No.6860497]

>>6856937
I'm planning to buy a Kamvas 22 plus or an IPad pro m2
>Goal to grow a youtube channel and continue to study anatomy, books etc i think the Ipad can help.
>Studied Arts in Uni (I still consider me an int) - Beg in digital art
>I travel for 3 months every year (away from home)

I am considering the ipad pro, am I making a mistake?

[Anonymous No.6860507]

>>6860497
if portability is a must, the ipad will undoubtedly be a better buy.
Personally if I were in your shoes though, I'd just get the 22 plus and an older ipad instead though. the m2 won't benefit drawing in any way, and ipads aren't actually very good drawing tablets compared to ones purpose built with art in mind.

[Anonymous No.6860589]

>>6860483
I actually don't mind the texture that much
My first experience with digital was horrible and I dropped it soon after, but after getting more practice in traditional mediums, I tried it again and liked it, especially for coloring
What would be a recommended size, "A4"?

>>6860485
I thought it could be a frankenstein solution to note taking and drawing, since it has a higher pressure sensitivity than those styluses and a larger working area than my phone screen, but I've never tried one

[Anonymous No.6860644]

>>6860507
>One of my oil paintings, 2 years ago picrel
fuuck, you make me doubt bro. Have you used one of the two?
For me what is a must is not so much portability but the use cases.
>Kamvas (only draw/sculpt, but with steroids)
-Can make complex work (screen/pc programs)
-Ergonomic (screen)
-Use photoshop, 3d etc.(pc)
>Ipad (Mini ""laptop""/more use cases)
-Is kinda mini laptop (no need pc)
-Best drawing feel/exp "similar" to wacom(what i heard, idk if it's copium)
-I can use it like a notebook to study, edit video.

I heard Adam Duff and some other pro artists that the Ipad in itself is enjoyable to use and by that, they draw more. idk

I'm making a mess, sorry, I know it's a big invesment (and bigger cosidering where I live), so because that, I want to make the best choice.

Considering the latest Ipad is not because I consider is better but, is beacuse it's new, it would last me more time.
I'm afraid of buying refurbished.

[Anonymous No.6860673]

>>6856937
You again, Aaron? wacom is reconsidering suing you, for giving it such bad publicity with your hostile and ridiculous fanaticism

[Anonymous No.6860677]

>>6860644
>Have you used one of the two?
I actively use both.
>Best drawing feel/exp "similar" to wacom(what i heard, idk if it's copium)
No, not at all. Without a screen protector, you have a slippery glass screen with a relatively blunt tipped stylus. With a matte screen protector (which wear down and feel waxy pretty quickly with consistent use) they feel decent, but still not as good. I've only tried paperlike and elecom, but I'm about due to replace mine again and might give bersem a try since it's $8 for 2.

I still like my ipad and sketch with it on my couch almost every night, but I don't like it for anything more serious than that, and am considering selling it for either a samsung tab ultra, or kamvas studio 16 if I can find one cheaper than $1700.

[Anonymous No.6860689]

>>6860673
>Aaron
This is the non schizo general bro

[Anonymous No.6860699]

>>6860689
Oh okay

[Anonymous No.6860711]

>>6858117
iPad Pro if only for the announcement of Procreate Dreams.

[Anonymous No.6861132]

>>6860677
anti guzzler setup, nice

[Anonymous No.6861259]

>>6859102
Should have done your research. That's old tech.

[Anonymous No.6861279]

would getting the samsung tab s6 lite be a mistake?
i mostly want to take manga and put the characters in boxes to try and learn anatomy and perspective
all i've done so far is copy and doing it in trad seems like it would be inefficient with time

[Anonymous No.6861293]

>>6861279
Tab s6 lite is kinda small, I personally wouldn't want to work on one. What's your budget, and does portability matter, or will you be working at your desk?

[Anonymous No.6861304]

>>6861293
i want to keep the budget low because i am a brainlet and might get filtered by perspective.
i don't really have a good workspace so portable is probably better.
do you think primeday, black friday, or cyber monday will bring down the prices of the s7, s8, or s9 to like $300+?

[Anonymous No.6861325]

>>6861304
Honestly I have no clue what they get down to because I've never looked. Are you opposed to 2nd hand?
Thinking about it more, the size probably isn't that bad, especially if it's basically a tab s6 lite or nothing for months. My first tablet with a screen was an iPad 3 which was even smaller and I made do with it for a long time. I've just gotten used to using bigger screens and remember how happy I was to get upgrade to them, so I have a hard time recommending anything small.

[Anonymous No.6861500]

>>6861304
I picked mine up from eBay for like $150, and depending if you like your tablets having "character" you can probably scoop one up for cheaper. Most probably won't have the pen, so expect another 20 for a third-party replacement (or 50 for OEM).
I haven't had it for very long but I'm already drawing more with it because of the portable nature of it. Mind you, I doubt it would be particularly good for very elaborate drawings; it's an older tablet and it definitely shows in its performance with things like Kuroba being stuttery messes.

[Anonymous No.6862023]

>>6861500
have you used an iPad? Curious how it compares

[Anonymous No.6862429]

>>6862023
Unfortunately I have not. Too much of a cheapskate.

[Anonymous No.6862984]

Is screenless tablet good for sculpting or do I have to get a display?

[Anonymous No.6862987]

>>6861279
It's a good first step. You can always choose to upgrade later on in the future once you get more experience and informed on your needs. Personally I'd prefer at least S7 or S8 since they're faster and is slightly bigger

[Anonymous No.6863007]

>>6862984
You don't have to get a display for anything, there's functionally no difference. The difference is only in how they work for you. I hate pen tablets and can't use them for shit, while I love display tablets and can use them as well as I would paper. Some people are the exact opposite.
tl;dr: yes, screenless can work fine for sculpting.

[Anonymous No.6863709]

>>6863007
Thanks bro

[Anonymous No.6863850]

>>6862987
Yeah I bought a 2020 S6 Lite and it's struggling to run just about anything smoothly. Kuroba is choppy when scrolling. It's not bad, mind you, and I've had a good time with simpler projects like sketches with a few layers and screen size canvas on Infinite Pain, but I wouldn't do anything bigger than that.
Though, for $100 on eBay, I still think it was a good deal. I wouldn't buy it new.

>>6862984

While I don't do sculpting, I used a small screen less for the longest time and did good work with it. I prefer my screened 24 inch, and screened tablets do make you faster, as you can see 1-to-1 where your marks will have an influence rather than having to translate the through hand-eye coordination, but they don't necessarily make you better. Some would argue that size of the tablet has a more profound impact than whether or not it's screen-enabled, and I think there's merit to this argument (if my endeavors with drawing on my small phone is any indication)

[Anonymous No.6864203]

so yeah the xp pen artist pro gen 2 line, anyone with experience, seen mixed things, seems like a great option though some people have mentioned some pen accuracy issues on some models (not these) and xp pen having over saturated colors, are these true and if so are they common?

can't seem to find any other display tablets that suit my use case otherwise

[Anonymous No.6864214]

>>6864203
I have the 15.6 pro from a year ago and it's great value, there are pen accuracy issues only near the edges and the colours are more saturated than my other monitors but I heard it's probably more accurate dunno if its copium

[Anonymous No.6864224]

>>6864203
Both pen accuracy and color were issues on the xp pen I tried. Their newest line may have fixed it though

[Anonymous No.6864395]

>>6863850
Thanks for the insight anon
>>6864203
>>6864214
Is the 15.6 worth it?

[Anonymous No.6864570]

>>6864395
Unless you're getting it for way cheaper, no

[Anonymous No.6865334]

I saw a tour of a fairly prestigious art studio and literally ever desk had a pen tablet, not 1 display tablet.
Do pros actually use displays or is this some weird consoomer trap?

[Anonymous No.6865679]

>>6865334
yes but not all of them
some prefer screen less ones over displays

[Anonymous No.6865680]

>>6865334
every pro I've interacted with uses display, I think it depends where you are what kind of art is being done

i often hear pen tablets are just something you never get used to (and I'm inclined to agree since the one I have has discouraged me from drawing so much since it feels nothing like drawing on paper)

[Anonymous No.6866088]

>>6865680
Why would a bunch of pros in a reputable studio only use pen tablets if that were the case?

[Anonymous No.6866339]

what's a good stand? all the less expensive ones are meant for ipads so I'm not sure if they're sturdy enough for my 16in display

[Anonymous No.6866355]

>>6859102
that's why you buy the huion kamvas 16 (2021) version. The 16 pro pen sucks actual donkey dick

[Anonymous No.6867089]

>>6866339
xp pen has one that I used for my old 16 inch display and it was perfectly fine
it is kinda pricey

[Anonymous No.6867108]

>>6866339
Just google for laptop stands. Anything that can hold a laptop will definitely hold a tablet.

>>6865334
Purely preference. Some probably have both pen tablet and display tablet.

[Anonymous No.6867278]

What's some good galaxy tab 6 lite screen protector?
There's so many of them I have no idea which one is good and which one is bad especially when most reviews are by non-artists

[Anonymous No.6868989]

>>6866088
I don't know dude, I don't see why one instance would mean every pro in existence uses pen tablets, personally I've never seen what you're describing. Only display tablets.

[Anonymous No.6869260]

>>6868989
Sixmorevodka studio, they do a lot of card art for legends of runeterra
It's all pen tablets and apple monitors

[Anonymous No.6869264]

>>6869260
>apple monitors

[Anonymous No.6869305]

>>6869260
interesting setup,are they a small studio or something?

[Anonymous No.6869310]

>>6869305
They've been around for like 10-15 years, but I think they exclusively work with Riot.

[Anonymous No.6869504]

>>6867278
you can't really go wrong with a paperlike, but from my experience, most matte screen protectors that are attempting to mimic the feel of paper are pretty similar.

[Anonymous No.6869510]

>>6869260
this setup makes NO sense, no professional artist has a desk this fucking empty and clean AND only one monitor to look at while drawing on a screen-less device
it's most definitely some corporate picture made to look well, ofc showing a huge screen tablet (not ergonomically place) would interfere in showcasing the vibe they're trying to go with

[Anonymous No.6869540]

>>6869510
are you implying that they took down their actual drawing tablets and brought in a bunch of macs and pen tablets for a random studio tour?

[Anonymous No.6869544]

>>6869540
no, i'm just saying they hid all the external monitors and/or laptops together with the bigger drawing tablets, this looks like a nightmare workspace btw, how the fuck is just 1 monitor justifiable

[Anonymous No.6869553]

>>6869544
seems extremely unlikely, they have nothing to gain from doing that.

[Anonymous No.6869606]

>>6860677
I always turn off true tone when drawing. Doesn't that mess with coloring?

[Anonymous No.6870194]

do u guys think there'll be anything interesting for artists with the new ipad pro redesign coming next year?

[Anonymous No.6870255]

>>6870194
more ram = more layers The ipad is insanely overpowered for drawing as is.

[Anonymous No.6870270]

>>6870255
I can already have like 25 layers at the highest possible resolution in procreate last I checked, and that's on a 3rd gen ipad pro which I think still had 4gb of ram.

[Anonymous No.6870583]

>>6870255
i meant it in the software side of things, there might be a new apple pencil 3 which means new features for drawing and maaaaybe who knows more stuff being ported over from macos

[Anonymous No.6871574]

>>6870583
>new features for drawing
like what exactly? other than wireless charging, the apple pencil 1 and 2 are basically exactly the same.

[Anonymous No.6871938]

>>6871574
i dunno man pressure points? p sure Apple hasn't disclosed how many the AP has but i bet it's much lower than a Pro Pen 2 or Pro Pen 3 from Wacom, so it'd be nice to have an upgrade there
and yes, i can tell the different between the 4K and 8K pens from Wacom, activation force in particular is very noticeable ...at the end of the day we're trying to refine technology so it's close to real life as possible right? this matters

[Anonymous No.6871961]

>>6871938
>i can tell the different between the 4K and 8K pens from Wacom
no you can't
>activation force in particular is very noticeable
has nothing to do with levels of pressure sensitivity.

[Anonymous No.6871984]

>>6871961
pressing has nothing to do with pressure sensitivity? aight lol

[Anonymous No.6872169]

>>6871961
>activation force in particular is very noticeable
has nothing to do with levels of pressure sensitivity.
what the FUCK are you talking about you idiot

[Anonymous No.6872202]

>>6871984
>>6872169
you could have 300 billion levels of pressure sensitivity and still have bad initial activation force. it has nothing to do with the increased number of pressure levels.

[Anonymous No.6872551]

>>6856937
Never used a tablet for drawing, what is a good "See if you like it" starter and what program should I use?

[Anonymous No.6872557]

>>6872551
medibang or firealpaca for pc, they are lightweight and easy to use

[Anonymous No.6872569]

>>6872551
need more information on your situation.
anything can be a starter since you can just buy on amazon and return it if you don't like it.

budget should you decide you like digital art and want to keep it?
do you want a display tablet that will feel pretty natural to transition to from traditional, or a non display that will cost a lot less but be pretty awkward feeling and offer more flexibility in how you can sit while using it?
do you need portability?
are you fine with buying 2nd hand?

[Anonymous No.6872608]

>>6872569
I need something better than a mouse and MSPaint for making AI art edits for clients. Do very basic shading, texturing, and quick in-make-edit and close program.

Want to start drawing to separate myself from every brain dead AI prompter who just slaps words in the program and calls it good.

Would like to not spend more than $600.
I sit.
Don't care about portability.
2nd hand is fine.

[Anonymous No.6872668]

>>6872608
>AI art edits
I no longer like you anon, but I will still guide you the same as if you didn't mention AI at all.

clipstudio paint and photoshop are what most people use, personally I like CSP. If you want free shit, krita is the go to.
for sub $600:
new, kamvas 22 plus
used, it really just depends on what the hell you can find in your area or on ebay, but most likely candidates in your price point would be a cintiq pro 16 or a kamvas 24 plus.

set aside $20 in your budget and buy a dokiwear glove too.

[Anonymous No.6872684]

>>6872668
>>6872608
also if you'd rather work with a pen tablet (non display), just pick basically any medium to large tablet. intuos pro, whatever the hell xp pen's is called, whatever the hell huion's is called, xencelab, it's all the same shit.

[Anonymous No.6873948]

Why are there two of these generals up?

[Anonymous No.6873956]

>>6873948
one is the wacom promotion thread

[Anonymous No.6873992]

>>6873948
The other one is not really a "tablet general", but the wacom schizo containment thread. I like wacom devices and use them, but he always up shits up the threads.

[Anonymous No.6874028]

>>6872608
>AI art edits
I'm sure you can get a nice thick rope and a sturdy ladder for less than 600

[Anonymous No.6874548]

>>6873992
the nigger is reporting anyone calling him out for trolling outside /b/
got warned and my replies deleted

[Anonymous No.6874573]

>>6873948
It's basically what >>6873956 and >>6873992
said. Plus, he samefags as fuck there, pretending to be someone with questons about tablets, supporting his views or "saved from chinkshit".
TL;DR: A faggot.

[Anonymous No.6874641]

>>6873948
>>6873956
crap I've been giving good advice in the wrong thread then. Had no idea there were two.

[Anonymous No.6874680]

>>6874641
the schizo op from the other thread will ask himself questions so he can answer them later just to continuously bump his thread any time this one gets a post so he can be above it in the catalog.
I really wish typing out something that insane sounding was made up.

[Anonymous No.6874721]

>>6874680
I totally believe you. I could tell who the chink was just given the terse hostile replies he often made. Really strange, I haven't encountered that obsessive level of autism over a stupid tablet thread on a mongolian basket weaving forum before.

I bought a Samsung S9 Ultra and love it! I installed a S8 Ultra screen protector which fits perfectly, and the touchscreen still seems great with no huge parallax. Just waiting for my new Wacom foam tipped nibs and Wacom One pen to arrive in the mail as I heard it adds some friction but I am making out okay with the SPen.

[Anonymous No.6874752]

>>6874721
have you used an iPad before? Considering selling my iPad and buying a tab s8 ultra instead.

[Anonymous No.6874778]

>>6874752
I fiddled with my aunt's iPad but never tried drawing with it. I am a /beg/ with both Apple products and drawing. I like android for its customizability and control, and I believe HiPaint is virtually identical to Procreate if you need that. I am using Infinite Painter.

[Anonymous No.6875433]

bump

[Anonymous No.6875470]

>>6874721
>I haven't encountered that obsessive level of autism over a stupid tablet thread on a mongolian basket weaving forum before.
kek
No one else really understands it either. Most generals I've seen seem to just tell people to ignore consumerism marketing bullshit and just buy the best value products, like baofeng radios on /k/ for instance

[Anonymous No.6875474]

guess i'll ask here after realizing the deal with the 2 thread dynamic:

hey guys for any one the tablet owners here, has the Android environment actually caught up to iPadOS or are we still limited to 1+ app per niche still?
i know that CSP is fully supported, then Infinite Painter and others for Procreate alternatives, etc but there's no Adobe (albeit limited, but i've used it and it gets you out of an emergency) suite apps or newer stuff coming out like Procreate Dreams
is committing to a Tab+ or Ultra really a good idea if you need an all-in-one device or are iPad Pros just better overall, im interested in the redesigns expected early 2024

[Anonymous No.6875488]

>>6875474
You have a few options on each now I'd say. Depending on if you're okay with a subscription, csp obviously as you mentioned for either.
ios, procreate is still typically the go to, but you also have infinite painter and artstudio
android you have infinite painter, hipaint, krita, medibang, and ibis paint

may be some I missed for either device, but those are the ones I've heard of people actually using.

For animation, I have no clue because I don't do animation at all.

[Anonymous No.6876420]

Thoughts? https://a.co/d/7XH3uj3

[Anonymous No.6876460]

>>6876420
>$56 cad
https://www.amazon.ca/Ergonomic-Aluminium-Multi-Angle-Adjustable-Compatible/dp/B09NBRG75Z
this will do the same thing (make sure to clip the $5 coupon)

[Anonymous No.6876509]

>>6876460
that sounds sturdy which is what I want! I'll throw in a tranny drawing glove too. Thanks anon

[Anonymous No.6876515]

>>6856937
>use Deco3 for years
>decide to upgrade, buy Artist 15 Pro
>WTF is this huge parallax
>can't connect multiple screens to laptop so whenever I use it my second monitor is just empty
>go back to Deco3
>Artist15 Pro just collects dust

I just want to draw like my favorite mangaka bros.

[Anonymous No.6876605]

>>6876509
>I'll throw in a tranny drawing glove too
the only tranny drawing glove I've used worth buying is a dokiwear glove (not sponsored but I fucking should be)
the other gloves are okay but offer no palm rejection if you're using a tablet that has touch.

[Anonymous No.6876613]

>>6876605
eh the one I bought has palm rejection supposedly so we'll see. I am using a cotton fingerless glove for the time being. Also bought a case.

[Anonymous No.6876633]

>>6876613
they all claim to, but unless they're more than a thin piece of neoprene, they won't. touch screens detect touch through the super thin fabric.
dokiwear ones have a patch of suede along the edge of your palm, pink, and ring finger. but if you already ordered it give it a try, I'd love to be wrong and for there to be other options so I can stop shilling them

[Anonymous No.6876649]

>>6876633
Wilco. Amazon has a good return policy but I'll definitely get the doki doki if needed

[Anonymous No.6876655]

>>6875488
i see...so there's no real answer to the question lmao
basically a coin toss, android and ipados are the deal breakers

[Anonymous No.6876954]

>>6876655
regardless of if you pick android or ios, there are apps that will work for what you need them to do.

[Anonymous No.6877183]

>>6876515
How the FUCK do you fix parallax on these things?

[Anonymous No.6877802]

>>6877183
try calibrating it a couple of times there will always be some parallax
you should be focusing on where the cursor is anyway when you're drawing or painting and not where the tip of your gay little stylus is
adjust your brain to digital painting/drawing

[Anonymous No.6877993]

>>6876515
>Artist 15 Pro
what the hell is a 15 pro?

[Anonymous No.6878346]

>>6856937
I'm looking for a mobile tablet to make sketches and doodles
The price of the iPad Pro is completely out of my budget and I don't want to risk buying a used one
This samsung tab seems to be much more affordable but I want to know if the performance is much lower than an iPad
I mean if it lags when using csp or playing some gachas games

I think csp doesn't have a one time purchase option in the android version, so what other app do people use to draw on these tablets?

[Anonymous No.6879291]

I already have an Intuos Pro for stationary work, now I'm looking for something:
>fully portable
>with a screen
>Windows based - for Photoshop (latest fancy brush packs) and Rebelle
>as cheap as possible without horribly sacrificing performance
Thanks

[Anonymous No.6879297]

>>6879291
>Windows based
>cheap
Surface pro 8

[Anonymous No.6879307]

Oh no no no wacom sisters おわりだ

[Anonymous No.6879311]

>>6879307
what model is that?

[Anonymous No.6879318]

>>6879311
16 second gen obviously

[Anonymous No.6879367]

>>6879318
>>6879307
What are we oh noing?

[Anonymous No.6879389]

>>6879367
that it exists for way cheaper than shitcom

[Anonymous No.6879391]

>>6879367
that more and more people are ditching wacum?
I don't know tb h

[Anonymous No.6879466]

Any opinions on the new XP Pen pro XLW? I want to try a fuckbig pentablet without selling a kidney.

[Anonymous No.6879469]

>>6879466
someone did a mini review last thread
>>6828653
>The pen ergonomically is identical to wacom pen but it has better feeling buttons because of the better travel distance and having a positive click instead of the mushy feeling of the wacom pen's buttons.

>The surface texture is a bit rougher than the smooth sheet I have on my intuos but I usually keep a piece of paper on that thing because of nib eating.
Hopefully this big boy doesn't eat nibs as well.
Felt nib feels really good but that's just a universal truth.
Unfortunately felt nibs on the wacom melt like cotton candy.

>Performance wise (pen pressure, polling rate etc.) both are indistinguishable. Not really sure why they need to push the 16K meme but whatever I guess.

>All in all the only thing that actually matters for me is the size. This XP-PEN tablet costs less than the intuos pro m whilst having over double the active area (it's like 2.5 times bigger).

>Also comes with a separate macro remote if you care about that.

>also this tablet straight up accepts the pressure sensitivity from my wacom pen kek

[Anonymous No.6879475]

>>6879469
Hope they keep it stocked for a while, they've already run out on the Amazon page.

[Anonymous No.6879728]

>>6879297
no, go samsung galaxy book instead
cheaper + wacom EMR

[Anonymous No.6879731]

>>6879307
its that fucking Frieren? i love this fucking anime its so good and Madhouse deserve a handjob for the effort they put on it
do you have a source? this project is from this year so it's literally 2023 JP company using XP-Pens... something is afoot

[Anonymous No.6879792]

>>6879728
>go the thing that's not a tablet instead

[Anonymous No.6879858]

>>6879792
>cheap
>without sacrificing performance
>mostly for drawing

>surface 8

[Anonymous No.6879862]

>>6879858
yeah?

[Anonymous No.6880571]

Hey anons, could really use some advice right now.
I've been happily using my Cintiq 13HD up to now (which I know is ancient by this point) but it's finally looking like that dumb design flawed port might be broken.
I don't mind shelling out some money for a good tablet. Actually previously I was looking at buying an ipad pro and was going to in a month or so, but I still need a proper tablet as I need access to specific animation software (hopefully this might change in the coming years, but I digress).

I'm a little lost as to current tablets as it's been a long time since I've bought one. I was researching the current cintiq lineup last night and I feel rather underwhelmed? The closest thing to a replacement for my 13HD seems to be a 16 but I really hate the lack of physical buttons and I've heard bad things about it's color gambit.

What are the decent, popular mid range tablets that people like nowadays? I am open to other brands but I have 0 experience with them so I'm unsure of their quality (also not crazy on having a rechargable pen). If going with other brands I would really like to have physical buttons as well.
Would I be insane just buying a 13HD again for cheap or trying to somehow fix the port on my own one and invest in an expensive tablet in a few months instead?

Any advice appreciated, thank you in advance.

[Anonymous No.6880615]

>wacum sold me a tablet with a kinda faulty stylus
>can't try to replace it under warranty because i live too far from the shop/wacock service
>new pen is fucking expensive, i can buy a whole new chinese tablet by the same price
well this sucks

[Anonymous No.6880616]

>>6880571
>rechargable pen
This hasn't been a thing for any brand for years.
If shortcut keys on the tablet are a requirement, that narrows your options, but just pick basically any tablet made in the last few years from any brand and you'll be fine.

[Anonymous No.6880751]

just picked up a huion kamvas 22 plus, manufacturer refurbished. already calibrated the touch since it was a little out, anything else i should look at checking/adjusting before use?

[Anonymous No.6880757]

>>6880751
download drivers, calibrate stylus, calibrate color. that's all you really have to do with any display.

[Anonymous No.6880866]

>>6880615
looks like you've been wacummed on

[Anonymous No.6881052]

>>6876420

I have this, it works well enough i forgot about the price

[Anonymous No.6881162]

>>6880615
>because i live too far from the shop/wacock service
I don't understand
can you not just contact customer support and tell them you got a fucked pen and have them send you a new one?

[Anonymous No.6881402]

dang it, the case I purchased doesn't sit flat. It wobbles on my stand. Guess I will live life on the edge and run with no case, then when I go out I'll put it in one.

[Anonymous No.6881533]

Ok after weeks of autistic info digging I'm dead set on the new XP-Pen line

only question left is, which size/res is more worth it for the price?

14", 1920×1200 for $377 ($357 with coupon code I found)

OR

the 16", 2560 x 1600, $539 ($519 with coupon code)

Want to stop stalling because I WANT TO JUST DRAW UNIRONICALLY but yeah

[Anonymous No.6881540]

>>6881533
16.

[Anonymous No.6881822]

>>6881533
new xp pen artist pro 16 gen 2 is kinda gamechanger, not too expensive either

am using gen 1 and my only complaint is it's a bit pixelry and pen could be better, gen 2 kinda fixed them both

[Anonymous No.6881834]

>>6881533
no VESA mount is a dealbreaker unfortunately. that dinky little stand on the back is not suitable for serious work unless you want to strain your neck

[Anonymous No.6881863]

>>6881834
I was just going to get a parblo stand or any equivalent to that if I find a more affordable stand, not a pro either, just someone that wants to not have a to use screen less anymore

Have an irl who's a storyboard artist who just uses a simple stand that just works so I figure it can't be too much an issue

[Anonymous No.6881972]

>>6881533
by a 24 inch one like me so you can flex on niggers with your big e-peen (make sure to never finish anything as well)

[Anonymous No.6882050]

>>6869510
like it or not apple monitors have the best color accuracy, you're working towards consistency it's best if everyone's on the same page.
also after drawing on a screen tablet for a few years I found switching back to analog feels a lot better, less neck and back pain from hunching over. also those really good wacom cintiq pro 24 with the GOOD stand and accessories is double the cost of an apple monitor and a dinky plastic wacom tablet.
>>6869540
a 5k monitor is more than enough screen space

[Anonymous No.6882062]

>>6882050
it still amazes me that somehow people still think you have to draw on a display tablet with it almost flat on your desk.

[Anonymous No.6882119]

>>6882062
it makes for a pretty dope photo though, you'd look dope drawing a screen tablet I bet

[Anonymous No.6882906]

>>6879307
kek
>>6882050
interesting, so that means no need to calibrate the colors?

[Anonymous No.6882992]

>>6881533
16".
Resolution above 1080p is the standard.

[Anonymous No.6883243]

>>6882119
nothing more dope than being a hunchback

[Anonymous No.6883246]

the Huion HS611 I got back during 2021 is still going strong

[Anonymous No.6883276]

>>6880571
Forget about fixing the port, it's insanely difficult to just open the 13HD, in case you didn't notice all the screens are not visible.

[Anonymous No.6883285]

>>6869260
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=couDZ8lmHhE

It's just Marko's autism forced onto others.

[Anonymous No.6883304]

>>6856937
Are old intuos worth it in current year and without driver support? I'm between an intuos 4 and a used pro medium 2017

[Anonymous No.6883306]

>>6883304
yes and no
they still work, but they're worse than any new offering from basically any brand.

[Anonymous No.6883340]

One by Wacom 2023 edition or the new XP Pen Deco? which should I buy?

[Anonymous No.6883419]

>>6883285
how do i become like this man
i thought that quicky sketching was best done on a chill platform like ipad/procreate but this fucker just sits down in front of a boring mac and autisms away on an intuos

[Anonymous No.6883437]

does anyone think an app could be made on phones (most likely android) that would connect to your pc and allow you to do touch gestures that would be mirrored onto software like photoshop or csp? basically acting as a mini ipad that you dont draw on but rather as a remote you can use your finger to pinch and tap on to do shortcuts and move the canvas and such. id definitely pay for something like that

[Anonymous No.6883638]

>>6883285
what is that fucking hair

[Anonymous No.6883643]

I bought wacom tablet many years ago but I almost didn't use it. The drawing is too annoying, when I want to make lines with pen it's too hard to move the cursor to make another line because I have to keep the pen very close to the tablet but not close enough to accidentally draw
Wacum bros always fail at drawing right? I have fantasies where I draw hentai and waifus but I have no energy for drawing and I only occasionally do joke sketches

[Anonymous No.6883646]

iPads are literally only used by perma/beg/s. No real artist will ever think of touching that pile of overpriced shit.

[Anonymous No.6883648]

>>6883306
Damn. I lost the chance to buy a used intuos pro large really cheap. I use a deco pro medium and I wanted a bigger surface to use on my pc and carry the deco on my laptop. There's a pro medium at good price, maybe I can get that to use on the go.

[Anonymous No.6883654]

>>6883340
I would go with the deco. I have the previous gen and it works fine, plus you get a keypad. It all depends on the active area you want.

[Anonymous No.6883703]

>>6881162
no, they want to inspect the tablet first

[Anonymous No.6883851]

>>6883646
They're literally at every japanese artist's house and a huge % of them already use it as their main drawing tool
Are you more successful than them? If not just admit it's gonna fully replace traditional Wacom tablets eventually.

[Anonymous No.6883979]

>>6883851
>a huge % of them already use it as their main drawing tool
source: fished from your toilet after dropping a fat shit?

[Anonymous No.6884367]

What apple pencil nibs should I get on aliexpress

[Anonymous No.6884547]

>>6884367
The basic ones? I ordered mine off Amazon for like $5 for 4

[Anonymous No.6884969]

iPad sisters is it alright to turn off the pad completely after each drawing session or am I somehow killing the battery? I don't wanna leave it on all day but I'm a bit worried that constantly turning it on and off will fuck something up.

[Anonymous No.6884993]

>>6884969
Just leave it on and plugged into a charger when not in use. At least once a month allow the battery to be used down to about 50% before charging again. Try not to ever let the battery reach 0%, this is what really kills the battery life. Powering the iPad on and off consistently is probably more straining for the battery.

[Anonymous No.6885078]

I'm planning to buy a tablet but I'm choosing which is better for ergonomics. Screenless or display, any advice guys?

[Anonymous No.6885083]

>>6885078
ergonomics wise screenless is better

[Anonymous No.6885086]

>>6883851
Literally every design house and animation studio works on Wacom. You'd get laughed out of the interview if you even mention experience with iPad or xp-pen garbage.

[Anonymous No.6885096]

>>6885086
Back to your containment thread.
There is video evidence of top animators using ipads

[Anonymous No.6885174]

>>6885086
>schizo thread hits bump limit
>starts shitting up other threads immediately
Sad!

[Anonymous No.6885178]

Huion kamvas or xp pen artist 2nd gen?

[Anonymous No.6885212]

>>6884969
>>6884993
you don't actually wanna leave it plugged in all the time if you can avoid it. when you leave tech plugged in it just keeps letting the battery drain a little then charging it back to 100%, which is more wear than consistent charge-drain cycles consistent with regular use and keeping the battery between like 25-85%. same as your phone, rather than leaving it plugged in overnight it's better to just plug it in for an hour or a couple hours where possible to recharge without idling at 100 for too long (it's also fine to have it plugged in while in use). you don't really want to turn it all the way off more than you have to, it isn't gonna kill anything outright but modern devices aren't really optimized around that kind of use and other anon is right that it'll tend to cause more strain over time.

[Anonymous No.6885225]

>>6885212
fwiw don't become like paranoid about optimizing battery usage/charges or anything, modern batteries are resilient, but there's a reason a lot of flagship phones nowadays have a feature to cap charge around 80-90%. batteries are naturally more sensitive to strain at the extremes: very low charge or flatlining is bad for your battery, and playing flappy bird with charge levels above 90% is also more intensive than similar fluctuations closer to the median range.

[Anonymous No.6885247]

>>6885174
he created another one and first reply was a samefag
>>6856937
also someone here owns a xencelabs?

[Anonymous No.6885364]

>>6885247
>mfw >>6885174 was my post
>mfw schizo kun reported me and the worthless mods deleted it
Dropkick niggermods into volcanoes

[Anonymous No.6885374]

Did anyone find a good deal on prime day? I found samsung tab s8+ for 600 bucks.
I'm gonna pass on it, though.
>sorry to post in both threads

[Anonymous No.6885381]

>>6885374
I've kinda lost all interest in prime day desu (black friday/cyber monday too)
almost every deal you find on any of these days, you can find similar deals throughout the year, or just buying on ebay.

[Anonymous No.6885385]

>>6885374
honestly you're better off waiting for sales on the official website of xp-pen, huion etc.
they basically have them constantly anyway
I got my 24 inch xp pen display for almost like 200€ less on the official website

[Anonymous No.6885407]

My Wacom One nib wore out after like ~20 sketches, is that normal?

[Anonymous No.6885420]

>>6885407
maybe you're pressing too hard? I've had my xp pen for over a year and it's not even worn down a quarter yet

[Anonymous No.6885640]

I have my stylus buttons set to toggle eraser and eyedropper
eyedropper works great
but toggle eraser I have to press like 4-5 times to get it to work. It acknowledges the button is being pressed, but it doesn't actually toggle.
any ideas if there's a fix? should I just change what the button does and remap eraser tool to something else?

[Anonymous No.6885702]

>>6885640
nevermind I decided to just change shortcuts, I hold former erase button for hand and my former hand button now just switches to erase tool

[Anonymous No.6886871]

>>6885407
are you rubbing it on sandpaper between sketches? I'm on my first nib still like a year later on my kamvas.

[Anonymous No.6887454]

bros I drew for like 9 hours today after setting up my 22 plus. buying a real tablet instead of my iPad was extremely worth, thanks people here that helped

[Anonymous No.6887643]

>>6887454
i dunno man i can barely stand looking at my 1440p IPS gaming monitor (straight up much better screen than any 1080p drawing tablet, both resolution and panel wise also 144hz) so to me it's always a case per case situation
when everything is just high resolution and even up to 120hz you just feel at home, looking at my 2019 cintiq 22 makes me barf sometimes

[Anonymous No.6887698]

found a cheap wacom one on ebay. worth it as first tablet?

[Anonymous No.6887846]

>>6885096
>theres video evidence
>can't post a single one

[Anonymous No.6887855]

>>6885407
Yes it is. Wacom business revolves around you buying more nibs and custom pro sheets for your tablet.

[Anonymous No.6887915]

>>6887855
Damn, I thought their business model was just hiring a schizo on 4chan to shill $3500 tablets to hobbyists

[Anonymous No.6887976]

Hey bros, I have 27in monitor and I was thinking of buying a 13 or 16 xp pen 2nd gen. Which display tablet would be suitable for my monitor's resolution?

[Anonymous No.6888114]

>>6887976
really depends on your screen resolution, the higher the res the larger the tablet should be

[Anonymous No.6888575]

>>6887915
(he does that for free)

[Anonymous No.6889428]

>>6885178
The cheapest one

[Anonymous No.6889435]

>>6887846
Gave you plenty of time to think your next cope. Can’t wait to see what it will be this time.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_8u592K1uc

[Anonymous No.6890113]

>>6889435
anon I don't think he was sitting around thinking about this for days

[Anonymous No.6890432]

>>6860475
>aliexpress
well... it IS $14....

[Anonymous No.6890435]

Should I get the Huion HS611 or the newer Huion Inspiroy 2 L? The difference is about $25 where I live

[Anonymous No.6890597]

>>6890435
There's realistically going to be very little difference

[Anonymous No.6891191]

anyone tried the Huion note?

[Anonymous No.6891267]

How necessary is tilt support? Does it make a real difference?

[Anonymous No.6891317]

>>6891267
I've never used it in 20 years, rotation is more useful.

[Anonymous No.6891318]

Hey bros. I was wondering what is the right display tablet to choose from. 16 or 22. I'm thinking 16 will be ok with the UI and all and 22 might be too big. What are your experience on this.

And how do I deal with the floating arm syndrome?

[Anonymous No.6891512]

>>6891318
I've been very happy with my 22. I'd go for that if you can, especially with more GUI-intensive programs.

As far as floating hand syndrome, there's canvas mirroring, rotation, or screen duplication.

[Anonymous No.6891601]

>>6891512
Thanks for the tip bro. How do you setup ur 22 ergonomically?

[Anonymous No.6891606]

>>6891601
Monitor arms, at about 45-60 degrees from horizontal. It's not the most ideal but it solves the issue of desk estate being at a premium. Before that I just used the stand it came with at around 30 degrees from horizontal, put my keyboard under it.

[Anonymous No.6891747]

>>6891606
Oh I see. Is it possible to show a picture of your setup?

[Anonymous No.6892084]

I'm gonna buy an Ipad pro. Should I get the 256GB or 516GB version?

[Anonymous No.6892116]

>>6892084
more is always better when it comes to storage especially when you have no expandable storage options because slapping an sd card slot into a 12 inch tablet just requires too much effort

[Anonymous No.6892151]

>>6892116
I decided to go with the 256GB. I figure I can always use an external SSD or move files to my PC/cloud if I really need the extra space. I got it with the Apple pencil obviously, but are there any other accessories you guys recommend? I plan to leave the house with it so I guess I'll need a case. Are screen protectors necessary?

[Anonymous No.6892157]

>>6892151
>screen protectors
I don't recommend glass, something about them fucks up your lines so they wobble. Imo it feels the best drawing on a naked screen but it's a 1k device so I'm not taking any chances, got a matte one and it works better.

[Anonymous No.6892161]

>>6892157
I heard matte protectors make the picture look worse. Is that true?

[Anonymous No.6892188]

>>6892161
they dim the screen a bit and make colours look not as vibrant but honestly it's not THAT bad but I would just go with a normal one and with how bright the ipad gets glare isn't going to be that much of a problem

[Anonymous No.6892217]

>>6856937
has anyone tried using ar glasses for drawing?
how is the color accuracy & latency?

[Anonymous No.6892235]

Just got an s7 tablet. What drawing app should I install?

[Anonymous No.6892267]

>>6892235
heavypaint is worth trying
pixiv sketch is honestly really solid as well

[Anonymous No.6892386]

>>6892151
matte screen protector (elecom or paperlike)
case with a slot for your pencil (any $15-20 one from amazon, they're all the same)
laptop stand to make drawing more ergonomic (one like >>6876460)
extra pencil nibs

[Anonymous No.6892458]

>>6892151
>>6892161
get a thin plastic film protector. paperlikes are a marketing gimmick anyway, they eat nibs like crazy and way too course vs real paper. I got a cheap PET film that works fine and introduces as much wobble as paperlikes

[Anonymous No.6892489]

>>6891747
It works alright. There are some limitations with this setup. Due to the arm, I can't tilt the tablet more than like 45-60 from vertical (eg no horizontal setup), and based on where I have my base, I'm limited to where I can position the tablet.
So it works but some experimentation is required. I might try putting the tablet stand back on it, now that I don't have to worry about monitor stand bases getting in the way.

[Anonymous No.6892491]

Picked up an cheap s tablet without a pen.
Is official pen the way to go? Or are the knockoffs good enough.

[Anonymous No.6892492]

>>6892489
Doesn't it wobble like hell when you put pressure on your tablet?

[Anonymous No.6892503]

>>6892492
Surprisingly, very little. I Imagine it's really determined by how much you tighten the clutches, and mine are pretty tight. There is a bit of wobble but both smooth strokes across wide swaths of the table, and quick dabs don't cause it to wobble it too much, and my drawing arm's wrist probably helps to stabilize it.

[Anonymous No.6892516]

>>6892489
that's awesome. thanks for sharing. saving this as a reference.

[Anonymous No.6892520]

>>6892492
I have a similar setup at ~80 degrees, it doesn't wobble unless you're doing fast marks
Depends a lot on the arm you use though. Cheaper/shittier ones will wobble more.

[Anonymous No.6892523]

Anyone here got an Intuos Pro Medium/Large? I'm finding I am getting slight wrist pain using the small ass Intuos S and was thinking I'd need a bigger tablet so I can use way more of my arm, problem is the intuos pros are fucking expensive for a non-screen tablet. It's also a pain trying to draw smooth lines on it because of how small it is

[Anonymous No.6892535]

>>6892523
Brother, just get the newest xp pen or a whatever huion
Some guy said his xppen even picked up his old wacom stylus

[Anonymous No.6892684]

>>6892523
I have a medium, don't have any points of comparison because the only other tablet I owned was a random taiwanese one with a fat fucking pen I have to stick a battery in. It's fine but really fucking expensive for what it does, chinky tablets are good enough these days, 90% of the performance (at worst) for half the price.

[Anonymous No.6893258]

>>6892235
I personally prefer Infinite Painter, but it's a bit buggy and I had a few crashes, at least it saves after every stroke, so I don't lose anything

[Anonymous No.6893362]

>buy a screen tablet
>stop using the screen after a few months
novelty wore off after a while kek

[Anonymous No.6893532]

>>6893362
>novelty
much like the novelty of painting on canvas or drawing on paper. yes I understand anon, this makes a ton of sense.

[Anonymous No.6893595]

Anyone here own the older and newer version of the Intuos Pro? any differences between them? All I'm seeing are the older models got a larger bezel and plastic body, the newer ones have a metallic body and almost no bezel

[Anonymous No.6893596]

bought a kamvas 16

h-hope I like screened tablets haha...

[Anonymous No.6893601]

>>6893596
retard, mine broke within 15 days and the china men on amazon swindled me for a refund

[Anonymous No.6893614]

>>6893601
post pictures of your broken tablet

[Anonymous No.6893631]

>>6856937
I own an Intous 5 Pro Large I bought back in 2013
Do I need an upgrade?

[Anonymous No.6893660]

>>6893614
check the archive for a vid, my tablet got a deadstrip directly in the center of it and went through warranty only to get swindled back and forth like 10 times before finally getting my money back

[Anonymous No.6893662]

>>6893601
>china men on amazon swindled me for a refund
>>6893660
>swindled back and forth like 10 times
What does the word swindle mean to you?
>check the archive for a vid
bro what

[Anonymous No.6894554]

>>6891318
I've had monitor tablets in that range, from a 13" Wacom HD screen tablet to 22" XP Pen and Huion.

As of now, I've settled for a 15.6 Artist Pro which I find to be the right size for me. The larger tablets are nice because you have a lot of space, especially if UI gets in the way with layers, toolbars, etc. Still, I found 20"+ to be too much for me and my drawing style. Not only that but if you use their included stands and not a vesa monitor arm, then you will lose a ton of desk real estate which can get quite annoying.

I did my tests around 2017 or 18 tho, when these large screens were all non-etched, or if they had a paper-like texture it had to be done with a screen protector that you had to apply yourself. And they were just slowly coming up with battery-less pens as well, so for some you had to charge them every so often. At first I really did not mind the glossy, ice-skatey feeling but there's just something nice about paper-like. Ultimately, I think it's better. A (coarse) screen-protector will do fine as well.

The tablet I've settled for, brought everything together, infinite pen battery, great screen texture, good middle ground for size and more than enough hotkeys plus radial menu. Plus I got it at a great price. I see it retails for 400 bucks now, I got mine at 250 in 2018 or so.

Gui doesn't matter honestly, if I really want Zen and no clutter, I hit Tab or whatever equivalent for your program to hide all ui elements and then you can just focus on drawing. Photoshop has two such fullscreen/distraction free modes, I'm sure most other programs have that as well. And whether it's a smaller or larger size screen tablet, I'd always look for errors on my main monitor, the one with the best color accuracy etc. I believe you can setup PS in such a way that it projects the fully zoomed out project on your main screen, while you work on detail(s) on your screen tablet (picrel).

[Anonymous No.6894559]

>>6894554
maybe don't post your Facebook on 4chan

[Anonymous No.6894566]

>>6894559
Thanks for the warning; it's a decade old pic from /ic/ (not mine).

[Anonymous No.6894731]

Been pondering this question for a while, hopefully someone has some tips or experience.

I have a crappy stand that came with my tablet and it only has one angle and no vesa mount for a monitor arm -> I'm often in shrimp posture while drawing and I can't really access my keyboard.

Anyway, what I need is a good tablet or notebook type holder with vesa screws. Any tips on what to get? I'm pretty sure a laptop holder won't cut it, since they only offer one small edge on the bottom for support and I don't know yet at which angle I will be drawing. I'd imagine tablet slightly hovering above desk, varying between almost upright and lying (almost) flat, depending on how I sit.

I really can't find many promising results. Might just buy this piece of crap and hope for the best..
https://www.amazon.com//dp/B0BCHBB45G/
Or maybe this claw type would be the right play?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09STXZRMS/

[Anonymous No.6894828]

>>6894731
what tablet do you have?

[Anonymous No.6894857]

>>6894828
Kamvas 16, so around 17 inches in width (or 44cm)

[Anonymous No.6895216]

>>6894731
There's a Vesa adapter that you can mount with adhesive on the back.

[Anonymous No.6895307]

>>6857046
honest opinion? no
at first it was great since the device hardware actually felt really good.
but after using their pen tablet it became clear that its all just for show.
though if you like the wacom pen feel , i think you might like xencelabs - not the feel in the software , but the feel of it on hand
since its also quite girthy and has heft.

[Anonymous No.6895311]

>>6858328
just get the newer gen 2 one
or get a second hand one

i got their gen 2 artist 12 literally the first day it was on sale - my review is literally first on their site lol
the biggest downside to these gen 2 tablets are the screen protector , after 7 months mine started peeling doesn't affect the drawing experience but it did look hella ugly - get back up screen protectors.
or idk just dont get pen displays ig?

[Anonymous No.6896070]

>>6895216
I see what you're getting at. That's definitely an option.
The guy who did this bought an extra adapter and attached it to the back of his tablet with double-sided adhesive tape.
I'm not sure that I'm ready to permanently taint my tablet like that tho.

[Anonymous No.6896077]

https://twitter.com/wacom/status/1714916425775591517?

New wacoms announced, might get myself the 17"

[Anonymous No.6896082]

>>6896077
this is a joke right? can't even cover 99% ARGB?

[Anonymous No.6896086]

>>6896077
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Wacom is a fucking joke, holy shit

[Anonymous No.6896095]

>>6896086
brb re-mortgaging my house

[Anonymous No.6896098]

Canadian price for 22"

[Anonymous No.6896100]

>>6896082
the 27" does but the 22" does 95%

[Anonymous No.6896103]

>>6896086
>>6896098
The new 6D senses pen can do blowjobs

[Anonymous No.6896106]

>>6896098
What did I miss? Why are these even more expensive than the 27 pro they just released? Why is this literally 8x the price of chink offerings? I paid $500 for my 22 plus. They really just give absolutely zero fucks about consumers and are going strictly for businesses

[Anonymous No.6896111]

>>6896086
They all come with touch now which is probably what's driving up the cost too. It's Stupid, also none of them come with the stand which is over 500 bucks. That's insane

[Anonymous No.6896114]

>>6896106
no bro the Pro 27 price here in Canada is $4800, you're probably confused with USA prices

...

that being said, they've decided to price increase both the Cintiq 16 and Cintiq 22s (non Pros) for some retarded reason, and nobody is talking about it
i remember the Cintiq 22 being around $1500 CAD full price on Amazon last year

[Anonymous No.6896120]

>>6896111
To add to this the stand is specific to the tablet, so a 22" stand will only work on the 22". If you ended up switching to a 27" you'd have to get another 500$+ stand
>>6896114
I'm glad I've been lucky with wacom products getting them fairly cheap I think I'm going to have to start looking into chinkshit instead

[Anonymous No.6896124]

>>6896086
The 17 is over $1000 more than the kamvas studio 16, which is a completely standalone tablet. This is literally just a monitor...

[Anonymous No.6896171]

>newsflash
Wacom is the Apple of tablets.
Don't buy.

[Anonymous No.6896178]

>>6896086
I mean.. there comes a point where even the most diehard youtube wacum shills will have to realize the only people they could reach are companies. These prices are fucking ludicrous. That stand alone costs more than your average rent in Zurich.

[Anonymous No.6896181]

the stand alone costs more than my standalone

[Anonymous No.6896190]

>>6896086
Guess i'll stick with my 16hd, I really wish I could upgrade to a 24" tho :(

[Anonymous No.6896195]

>>6896190
Just get chinkshit.

[Anonymous No.6896197]

every point said here is valid but the stand comments are kinda obsolete after these many years

1. apple did it before and even worse, it never stopped companies from releasing overpriced stands
2. the Pro 27 is already below 20lbs, most basic VESA ergotron or copycat (like amazon monitor arm) carry those weights with no issues, and they go for less than $100
3. the stationary VESA arms are like $40, so you can go even cheaper

[Anonymous No.6896212]

>>6896190
Why do you feel 16" being insufficient?

[Anonymous No.6896251]

>>6896212
not him but i returned my 16" for the 22" because i mostly do illustration and shoulder movement is simply awkward/unhealthy on the smaller one

[Anonymous No.6896442]

>>6896086
how does wacom make me seriously consider APPLE as a suitable art tool provider after this fucking bullshit? how do they do it?
i can go and buy a $1100 iPad Pro (it can even by financed) that will ONLY have the screen size and OS as limitations
nothing else, every other aspect of the tech inside is leagues beyond the fucking SCREEN wacom tablet that doesn't even work by itself
iPad Pro + Pencil 2 + Procreate + screen protector + case = $1300
and this is a brand new device not even from the refurbished store
clip studio + bluetooth keyboard to replicate desktop workflow = less than $100
what the FUCK is going on

[Anonymous No.6896452]

>>6896442
>what the FUCK is going on
wacom doesn't give a single fuck about the consumer. every big name studio will buy a few dozen each and wacom won't blink an eye. Basically they stopped giving a shit about small fish and only care about whale accounts.

[Anonymous No.6896757]

My Ipad pro came. Haven't had much of a chance to play with it yet but it seems pretty cool. I bought procreate and nomad sculpt. Are there any other apps worth getting? I think I can get used to drawing on the glass. Are there any tempered glass protectors that don't fuck with the pencil sensitivity?

[Anonymous No.6896763]

>>6896757
All glass protectors make the diagonal lines wobbly

[Anonymous No.6896800]

>>6896757
Drawing on glass feels like ass. Get a matte screen protector.

[Anonymous No.6896916]

>>6896757
>nomad sculpt
Do you 3D? How is it compared to something like Zbrush?

[Anonymous No.6897227]

>>6896916
Why are you talking to yourself?

[Anonymous No.6897232]

>>6896195
No thanks, shill.

[Anonymous No.6897234]

>>6896171
Apple already release a tablet you brainlet.

[Anonymous No.6897238]

>>6896763
No, you just have to get used to the surface.

[Anonymous No.6897242]

>>6895216
>adhesive
Actual retard, chong.

[Anonymous No.6897244]

>>6893258
You should use Ibis Painter instead.

[Anonymous No.6897248]

>>6894828
Wacom Intuos 4.

[Anonymous No.6897252]

>>6892267
Terrible recommendations. You clearly don't run Android.

[Anonymous No.6897254]

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>>6885220
>>6885220

>>6885220
>>6885220
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[Anonymous No.6897255]

move
>>6897231
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>>6897231
move
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[Anonymous No.6897270]

what the fuck? lmao

[Anonymous No.6897363]

>>6897244
Never tried that, could give it a shot

[Anonymous No.6897411]

>>6897234
That's not what I'm talking about. I mean their astronomical pricing because they think they are the only ones in the market. It used to be true that Wacom was the only real choice in the space but that has changed more and more since 2016+