/beg/ & /int/ - Beginner and Intermediate Thread

[Anonymous No.6854675]

If you are a /beg/inner or /int/ermediate in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
Use this thread instead of making new threads or post in the drawthread with fundamental exercises.

>READ THE STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
Old: http://www.squidoo.com/how-to-draw-learn
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
>TRY TO BE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK.
When giving feedback, avoid vague "advice" - point what's wrong and try to give the anon you're quoting a clear direction
to improve their art (study heads < watch THIS VIDEO about head structure, read THIS SECTION of THIS ARTIST'S BOOK, etc).
You, feedback seeking anon, should also try to be clear and concise when asking for critique/help.
When posting your artwork, say what you want help with, and what's your goal with the study/artwork.

previous >>6850638

[Anonymous No.6854707]

how the fucking goddamn shit fuck do you fucking draw big eyes without them looking terrible

[Anonymous No.6854712]

>>6854707
just draw desu

[Anonymous No.6854715]

>>6854707
Is it that hard to look up anime references?

[Anonymous No.6854727]

>>6854707
post your attempt

[Anonymous No.6854738]

[Anonymous No.6854749]

did this drawing today

[Anonymous No.6854758]

>>6854675
Can someone help me draw a foreshorted arm in this angle?
I have no idea what I am doing. I can't find any proper reference for this arm angle either.

[Anonymous No.6854761]

>>6854758
I would search for wrestling references, lots of moves use that motion there.

[Anonymous No.6854766]

>>6854761
Oh god, yes!
Thanks, man. That solves almost everything.

Hand is kinda hidden in this shot. But I guess I can figure it out now

[Anonymous No.6854797]

>>6854758
Sorry I might get some names of body parts wrong. I think her lat is placed too high which indicates her shoulder also being too high. Her breast is also significantly too high. I like to imagine breasts as being like varying degrees of fullness water balloons suspended from where the pecs attach to the shoulder. See how this breast sits below where the pec connects? Yours should as well, it even looks like you indicated that part of the pec, but your breast is sitting centered vertically with it. It should also follow the movement of the shoulder and should be rotated to the side as her shoulder is.

[Anonymous No.6854803]

>>6854797
Got it.
I'll lower it later. Gotta go now

[Anonymous No.6854838]

Can you guys draw while sleepy? I feel like Mr. Sandman is sucking all my gains up.

[Anonymous No.6854839]

spend the whole day wageslaving, so im just gonna draw some boxes and cry myself to sleep

[Anonymous No.6854885]

>>6854727

>>6854847
I hate drawing eyes

[Anonymous No.6854937]

https://assets.clip-studio.com/en-us/detail?id=2018040

how do i use the first to chain samples? i can't past them like the last 2 into my brushes list

[Anonymous No.6854943]

>>6854937
Draw them manually even pic related hated drawing chains

[Anonymous No.6855020]

I just folded my hand to draw this.
Opinions?

[Anonymous No.6855024]

day 68
i seem to have gotten better at the "basic" exercises by doing advanced exercises like full color rendering.
Doing "basics" is really just diminishing returns, i guess this is how one gets to the perma/beg/ hell, constant fundamental exercises
I've been watching bodybuilding shorts for some reason and in one of them tom platz says "you've achieved failure" to a guys he's coaching. I think that's pretty insightful, when you stop failing that's the worst part, the moment your results are "good enough" or "decent" is the moment your progress with this exercise completely plateaus and you need to find a new approach asap.

>>6854675
very rude to put the anime coom guy at the center of the beg wall, his finished work smokes approx 80% of this general

>>6854943
that seems like an argument to not draw them manually though

>>6855020
i think you're mostly symbol drawing bro

[Anonymous No.6855033]

I really struggled with these because of how many cramped poses there were. In the end I didn't hate it as much as when I was drawing it

[Anonymous No.6855041]

Roast me.

[Anonymous No.6855042]

What would you define as starting college level?
Was in AP art in Highschool but it's been 7 years since I've done anything. I have paid schooling but would rather wait before applying

[Anonymous No.6855053]

>>6855041
pull your figure off balance more, push the gesture farther than you think you can

[Anonymous No.6855055]

>>6855041
pull your figure off balance more, push the gesture farther than you think you can

[Anonymous No.6855056]

>>6855024
Oh I forgot to add this thought
In exercise hard rest is equally important to hard work, I wonder if practicing drawing daily is bad for you

[Anonymous No.6855058]

>>6855055
(he could even be dropping the staff to show how surprised he is, which would also add motion and drama)

[Anonymous No.6855066]

>>6855053
I always get uneasy of going too far, I think I should just get some anime and draw some action frames to get more used to it.

>>6855058
>staff

[Anonymous No.6855067]

>>6855066
the whateverthefuck*

[Anonymous No.6855071]

>>6855066
literally just *go too far* and then you can always dial it back if you need to (you probably won't)'
I really like Antonucci's stuff, he pushes his line of action to the absolute LIMIT - now THIS is "going too far" (but he makes it work)

[Anonymous No.6855090]

>>6855041
fake hero

[Anonymous No.6855122]

>>6855055
I like this
I like you
Nta but I've been really trying to stop drawing such stiff poses

[Anonymous No.6855133]

Is it just me or is it hard to capture someone likeness with just lines(no shading or color)? Literally like 90% of loomis heads in the head book have some kind of shading

[Anonymous No.6855182]

>>6855133
faces arent flat.

[Anonymous No.6855184]

>>6855182
Tell that to japan.

[Anonymous No.6855185]

Finished this a few days ago.

[Anonymous No.6855190]

>>6855184
and none of them have distinct features.

[Anonymous No.6855238]

How do I enjoy drawing again?
I recently got a Cintiq hoping that it would motivate me, but I'm still lost at sea.
It's always disheartening for me to see so many people progressing and producing nice work while I spiral in an infinite rut.

[Anonymous No.6855253]

"you mistyped the captcha"

[Anonymous No.6855255]

>>6855253
How do I type this capcha

[Anonymous No.6855340]

morning doodling/warmup

[Anonymous No.6855343]

>>6854738
crusty ass lips

[Anonymous No.6855353]

>>6855033
get Michael Hampton, anon

[Anonymous No.6855357]

Is there an app or something I can use to track what I've done daily that supports attaching images? I'm gonna attempt to do a 30 day improvement thing and if I don't fall off after 2 days then I wanna post what I did here and see how I can improve my routine/myself. Plus I feel like knowing that I've actually done more than nothing might be motivating

[Anonymous No.6855371]

>>6855357
sign up >>6839049

[Anonymous No.6855373]

>>6855238
maybe try to come up with some new ideas while not caring too much about the results
or experiment with a new medium

[Anonymous No.6855376]

>>6855238
post comfort zone work.

[Anonymous No.6855379]

[Anonymous No.6855382]

>>6855379
I detect some sovl

[Anonymous No.6855384]

>>6855184
>Japan
You sure?

[Anonymous No.6855388]

[Anonymous No.6855389]

>>6855371
I have a dad account but I was hoping for something where I could also dump all the resources/refs I use

[Anonymous No.6855391]

[Anonymous No.6855393]

Used AI to find a gem ref since google is shit for this stuff

[Anonymous No.6855395]

[Anonymous No.6855397]

>>6855391
>>6855388
they look like brats
gj anon

[Anonymous No.6855404]

one of many shitty apples

[Anonymous No.6855413]

>>6854712
>>6855379
now this is SOVL

[Anonymous No.6855416]

>>6855393
just use pinterest
the AI may hallucinate fake physics and give you unrealistic lighting and material properties and youd be learning wrong info

for these kinds of studies AI isnt that useful

[Anonymous No.6855418]

>>6855404
Here's a good demo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIQR5A7fdY0

[Anonymous No.6855423]

>>6855404
In case you're using krita try these two brushes, especially the right one.

[Anonymous No.6855434]

>>6855423
Whats it called? Looks like I dont have it
>tfw owari da..

anyways look at this stupid guy with his bat helmet lol
was thinking of Amano when I doodled it

[Anonymous No.6855443]

I won’t be drawing this weekend either.

[Anonymous No.6855445]

>>6855185
lol that’s not how breasts work begcel

[Anonymous No.6855449]

How do you into extreme foreshortening?

[Anonymous No.6855450]

>>6855443
How come?

[Anonymous No.6855453]

>>6855445
fantastic crit there anon
truly top tier

[Anonymous No.6855458]

>>6855434
And I'm on krita version 5.1.5

[Anonymous No.6855461]

>>6855423
>>6855434
>>6855458
https://krita-artists.org/t/deevad-2023-01-brush-bundle/56322

https://krita-artists.org/t/sketch-v2-sk2-pleasure-to-draw-including-colored-pencils-and-blenders/59552

https://krita-artists.org/t/rotating-light-brushtips-wip/64930

https://krita-artists.org/t/neko-pen/65787

[Anonymous No.6855485]

what do you guys do when you don't really know what to draw? i've taken to asking chatgpt to tell me what to draw every now and then at this point
it's basically the same as an art prompt generator right

[Anonymous No.6855489]

I don't want to be a pro. I just want to draw like a child.

[Anonymous No.6855490]

>>6855485
>not having a giant, curated folder full of cool stuff to draw.
How do you people function

[Anonymous No.6855492]

>>6855393
Take this with a huge grian of salt cause Im a beg but

If you actually painted less, it would look better. Just paint simple shapes, more like >>6855404 .

[Anonymous No.6855496]

>>6855490
>curated folder
explain pls
also past a list of ideas that i add to every now and then, i don't plan out what i want to draw. not to mention i don't think i can do some of the things on the list justice atm, so i leave them for later, etc. sometimes i just dunno what to draw

[Anonymous No.6855498]

>>6855496
>8556 files
This is just for photos, I have a similar one for art I found

[Anonymous No.6855499]

Can we all just stop for a moment and appreciate this lil nigga??

[Anonymous No.6855504]

>>6855498
whoa that's actually pretty neat
i should start doing that

[Anonymous No.6855506]

Any glaring issues before I finish up the shoes and throw on flats?

Probably not going to to a complete redraw but I'd like to know what to keep an eye out for in the future.

[Anonymous No.6855517]

>>6855458
>>6855461
Thanks! seems like I got the brush now
gonna try it out..
>>6855418
too much information, I dont get it x___x

[Anonymous No.6855522]

>>6855506
torso too long
shitty edit with mouse cuz no tablet where im at
but just using selection tool to pull down the torso from ribcage up and arm length, you get the idea

[Anonymous No.6855525]

>>6855041
where did you learn how to paint

[Anonymous No.6855526]

>>6855522
also forgot to add, for a general rule, the length from feet to waist is the same as length from waist to top of head, this is way harder to implement outside basic poses, but still a thing to keep in mind

[Anonymous No.6855538]

>>6855522
>>6855526
Hey anon thanks for the input. The character is meant to be lanky but now that you mention it I probably should have made the torso shorter and focused more on the leg length.

[Anonymous No.6855571]

I have noticed I spend a long ass time when it comes to shading, way too much imo, so I want to know what do you guys prefer or what are you experiences when it comes to shading.
Is the greyscale method after that comes the color or flat colors then picking shading colors? I know about the multiply layer, and it would save a lot of time, but sometimes it looks good sometimes it doesnt.

[Anonymous No.6855574]

Wouldn't it make more sense to check the midpoint before sketching in the whole figure? I don't get why this order is suggested

[Anonymous No.6855585]

Crits on coloring/shading? I think once again the hair/face look flat, but I don’t know what shadows to add. For the face I can only think of the cast shadows of the hair. Is it time to learn the planes of the face? Also wondering how to give the hair more volume. I just copied the shapes I saw on a ref from the anime.

[Anonymous No.6855589]

>>6855404
ANOTHER APPURU
billions must be drawn

[Anonymous No.6855604]

My first background

[Anonymous No.6855609]

>>6855604
Perspective is off, anon-kun
And be more confident in your lines, and preferably dont use pure black for lines

[Anonymous No.6855616]

here's Hestia I hope you like her

[Anonymous No.6855619]

>>6855609
>Perspective is off
amazing

[Anonymous No.6855625]

>>6855619
?

[Anonymous No.6855632]

>>6855616
nazi jesus?

[Anonymous No.6855638]

>>6855616
comfy looking art
but could use some work on the clothes/fabric department, even for a simplistic cartoony style it looks too stiff

[Anonymous No.6855643]

>>6855538
>is meant to be lanky
she is too thick to be lanky

[Anonymous No.6855642]

>>6855609
How is it off
I don't really care that it's black because this was just practice from a reference, not a real piece.

[Anonymous No.6855644]

>>6855632
greek hearth goddess
loosely based it on this statue
swastikas have meanings outside nazism
>>6855638
thank you

[Anonymous No.6855646]

Which would be a better starting place for a /beg/ Micheal Hampton's analytical figure drawing course or proko's figure drawing fundies?

[Anonymous No.6855652]

>>6855643
>she

[Anonymous No.6855654]

>>6855642
Just compare the lines going off into to the sides with your piece
Many of the angles are wrong

[Anonymous No.6855662]

>>6855585
Here you go. Use your knowledge that the head is a full sphere and place a larger part of it into shadow.

[Anonymous No.6855699]

>>6855662
Thank you very much anon. I greatly appreciate the other adjustments you made as well.

[Anonymous No.6855727]

>>6855585
colors are ded, maybe your monitor has the contrast to the max, shadow in the neck is almost as dark as the one in the face which is exposed directly to the light, same with the ligh in the hair is almost fainting, same with the iris, theres no constrast with the surrounding area.

[Anonymous No.6855732]

>>6855654
>he won't redline it
the nodraw classic

[Anonymous No.6855739]

>>6855727
holy shit she's becoming cuter!
MORE!

[Anonymous No.6855746]

For a friend
Honestly im pretty proud of the pose but i think the anatomy could be better orz

[Anonymous No.6855749]

>>6855746
Why is it so tumblr

[Anonymous No.6855753]

>>6855746
I like this

[Anonymous No.6855785]

>>6855450
Because you people are assholes.

[Anonymous No.6855823]

>>6855644
>swastikas have meanings outside nazism
youre asking far too much of the 3 braincells twittards have

[Anonymous No.6855826]

>>6855746
>file name
let me guess, brazillian and voted for commies

[Anonymous No.6855837]

>>6855785
it sounds like you're giving yourself an excuse not to draw by using text on a computer monitor as an external reason, when really, you're completely in charge of whether you draw or not in the first place

go draw something

[Anonymous No.6855841]

>>6855837
He's the resident schizo bait dispenser, don't touch the poop.

[Anonymous No.6855850]

>>6855841
>>6855837
I’m just here to remind you people that you suck at giving critique and are just a bunch of crabs seeking to demotivate people. Go fuck yourselves.

[Anonymous No.6855883]

No idea how to really start improving
I can use forms well enough to roughly sketch the human body even without reference by now but once I try to move on to making the sketch look properly human it all falls apart
Is this the part where I‘m supposed to memorize an anatomy book or sonething?

[Anonymous No.6855886]

>>6855525
I didn't, that's the issue. But what took me here was Marco Bucci's "Color Survival Guide".

You can find it around the seven seas if you are broke.

[Anonymous No.6855889]

>>6855883
Im at a similar issue but I can sketch humans from references pretty well but not from imagination. I have good gesture from imagination imo but everything else is bad.
I'm currently doing a second round of Bridgman (commonly suggested to do the book twice itt) but instead of drawing while looking at it I'm covering it and trying to draw it from imagination after examining for a bit.

[Anonymous No.6855890]

>>6855883
>No idea how to really start improving
By not coming here.

[Anonymous No.6855892]

>>6854675
Would manga artists like Akira Toriyama be really good at figure drawing or drawing from like or all the normal stuff? Or is it a completely different skill set

[Anonymous No.6855895]

[Anonymous No.6855903]

>>6855746
My dear Brazilian friend that is probably a full blown menace to society, try doing this pose irl and see what happens to the left shoulder; It goes up.

[Anonymous No.6855904]

wip
how do I make it look less shit? the proportions feel way off

[Anonymous No.6855910]

>>6855890
Will I really just passively improve at drawing as long as I avoid /ic/?
Neat
Goodbye

[Anonymous No.6855918]

Advice on getting an art study schedule going and how to stay mentally focused on learning? Ever since finishing art college 3 years ago I've struggled massively with learning drawing, I feel directionless and overwhelmed with what I should focus on and what i should prioritize learning. My art also seems to fluctuate constantly, pic rel was from 2-3 years ago and I struggle to replicate it's quality alot. Some days I can barely handle drawing a simple basic figure without getting frustrated but other days I can stumble into drawing something half way decent looking and that I want to draw to completion. I find myself getting overwhelmed by tutorials online and struggle to draw complex objects like torsos in 3D, even though in my head I can break them down to basic shapes and understand how to make them more complex, but when it comes to putting it into practise I fail

[Anonymous No.6855922]

>>6855904
>less shit?
Could you elaborate more? This is extremely vague.

[Anonymous No.6855928]

>>6855922
mostly just how to fix the proportions and make the colors and shading coherent

[Anonymous No.6855932]

>>6855904
Change rendering style.

[Anonymous No.6855942]

>>6855904
I think you should focus on one aspect at a time when you want to improve. If you wanna improve the colors and all that, google roman pillars and try recreating them.

[Anonymous No.6855993]

>>6855918
Draw whatever you are the least comfortable with.

[Anonymous No.6856040]

>>6855746
fellow brazillian comrade
why are you drawing? why arent you working for the great leader, look hes even wearing cat ears now! now go work to pay for daddy states expenses

[Anonymous No.6856050]

>>6856040
on one hand, hes based for hating homos and trannies, only lying to get easy votes from those retards

on the other hand, his a fidel loving commie

[Anonymous No.6856062]

>>6855749
Is it? I do have a tumblr but i dont post since jurassic era

>>6855753
Aw thanks Anon!

>>6855903
Oh thanks for pointing it out!!
Weird file name, but i deeply appreciate the correction!
I do nothing but draw and kms with work and studies all day, don’t worry buddy

>>6855895
Sick, i love the style!


>>6855904
Maybe you could focus a little more on the perspective of the drawing?
They seem to be on different places, not sure how to explain that… but in my opinion, the proportions are the last thing id worry about

[Anonymous No.6856100]

>>6856050
fidel was a 6'3 chad tho

[Anonymous No.6856123]

Had fun with this, just to get back into drawing and painting

[Anonymous No.6856165]

What are some exercises to develop spatial thinking other than rotating cubes?

[Anonymous No.6856188]

>>6855993
Well maybe you’re the sort of freak who would draw children being raped to death but I’m not.

[Anonymous No.6856192]

>>6856165
Take a picture of a scene. lay out a perspective grid and start placing objects/figures in it. It can be oddly meditative to just cram as much stuff as you can into one picture.

[Anonymous No.6856217]

Sup beg. Even more cars. The end of book is approaching!

>>6855918
>getting an art study schedule
the term you are looking for is called Work Ethic. feel free to google it. imho all there is motivation: you either WANT something (and then you naturally do it even if it kills you) or you dont. make your priorities clear and then just do what needs to be do. turn it into habit: oh it is 19:00 i have to draw. simple as
>directionless and overwhelmed
thats why i am using all these books: the direction is given, just turn to the next page
>>6855904
using full value range, adding shades, adding more diverse background, more confident line work, advanced lighting, better figures either by having reference or gestures...
>>6855895
i like your style, you are easily recognizable and unique drawer
>>6855883
PYW
>>6855746
weakest part is drapery: lack of folds or shades. the golden ornament on the hips is floating: not touching the cloth under. basically you are missing shading on a lot of places
>>6855616
lmao
>>6855604
pro beg tip: when drawing reflections add white highlights / smudges / imperfections on the mirror itself so there is visual clue we are looking at a mirror. otherwise it is solid
>>6855574
the wording could be a bit better, but it assumes you as beg will be inaccurate either way and this way you will practice more restating. Essentially it wants you to put sketch / gesture with your best guess and then actually MEASURE and see how off the mark you got and fix it.
>>6855449
reference is the king
>>6855357
sounds like you want 2 apps: 1 for tracking time and 1 for making documents / taking notes
>>6855253
whats up with that hand? either crop it completely or adjust composition so whole coca cola fits in. like this it is poop
>>6855238
think less, draw more
>>6855185
the neck is suspiciously long, the boobs usually dont have hard edge on top, her left arm is literally growing out of her ass (instead of shoulder), the poles on ground are very confusing

[Anonymous No.6856236]

>>6856100
>fidel was a 6'3 chad tho
pls dont be retarded

[Anonymous No.6856261]

Not an anatomy study; this is the start of an orthographic character sheet. Just wondering if the overall proportions are okay, before I begin adding clothing? Made him 8 heads tall by stylistic choice because I want him to be the big muscular type.

[Anonymous No.6856279]

>>6856188
No one but you had that thought.

[Anonymous No.6856306]

>>6856217
>pro beg tip: when drawing reflections add white highlights / smudges / ... otherwise it is solid
Thank you! I knew the angles were slightly off but I'm glad it's still cohesive enough : D

[Anonymous No.6856372]

more figures

[Anonymous No.6856391]

>>6856217
>basically you are missing shading on a lot of places
Oh yes, it was on purpose, my shading isn't that lazy, I just did minimal shading because it was a doodle as a gift for a friend, nothing too big.
but I agree that drapery is very bad, I just do random folds and hope it looks good... thanks anon, is there any tip or video you recommend to learn more about folding?

Also, your vehicles are very good, love it! Congrats and good luck with the book…will you try painting/rendering them once you’re done anon? Or will you keep them untouched?

>>6856372
Nice, keep it up!

[Anonymous No.6856404]

>>6854675
oh... one of my girls made it into the beg gallery

[Anonymous No.6856422]

>>6856404
Now, draw her morbidly obese

[Anonymous No.6856447]

Torso too long, legs too short and thicc, still having an issue with 'drawing a girl calling it a boy' syndrome but I did try.

I guess if the legs were leaner, and the face a little longer? The heads already quite big-ish and I did try and add some boxy-ness to the hips.

Anything else I overlooked? Anything else I can keep in mind to make him look less like a girl while still looking girly?

>>6856404
Nice

>>6856422
Flash?

[Anonymous No.6856482]

>>6856165
open an anatomy book, look at the muscles and draw them from a different angle

[Anonymous No.6856491]

>>6856404
blog?

[Anonymous No.6856493]

Not very good at line art and so I attempted it.
Also guessed the lighting on the one on the right but not sure if it works.

Want to try to light the one on the left but not sure how to approach it.

[Anonymous No.6856499]

[Anonymous No.6856532]

>>6856422
here, but she couldn't take it anymore
>>6856491
I only have a pixiv account that is updated irregularly, but if you are interested it is users/14735673

[Anonymous No.6856565]

>>6856404
I notice you rarely post colored work so I'm asking if you are currently learning how to color and if so what resources are you using?

[Anonymous No.6856568]

>>6856532
>14735673
good stuff but at what point do you start creating your own content instead of doing copies of others?

[Anonymous No.6856583]

>>6856565
I'm trying to learn how to color at the moment
but one thing that helped me was Marco Bucci's course and his youTube channel
and stop trying to render and simplify the shadows using a gpen, for example, using hard edges to make the shadows, using a maximum of 2 types of shadows + highlights, something like this video here
https://youtu.be/kbKqIJcIUCw?t=7321

>>6856568
I think making copies will always be important, but for me I choose a character and make autistic copies of it, then I go to posemaniacs and try to draw this character using the reference poses, eventually you will be able to draw this character from imagination

[Anonymous No.6856586]

>>6856261
Could someone help me understand why my side view looks so fucked up? I keep looking at references, specifically for the leg, but I can't understand what I'm doing wrong.

[Anonymous No.6856588]

I am cubing myself all over, brahs
I think soon I'll finally understand how to draw the cube from every angle
https://imgur.com/e4F6rCe

[Anonymous No.6856611]

>>6856583
Thanks im gathering resources for when I decide to start learning to color

[Anonymous No.6856614]

>>6856586

[Anonymous No.6856616]

>>6856586
>>6856614

[Anonymous No.6856622]

this thread is kinda useless
bring back redline general

[Anonymous No.6856638]

>>6855746
where does the "lower eyelashes are now an extension of the white of the eyes" thing come from? a holo fan artist i follow does it too

[Anonymous No.6856639]

>>6856588
Nice ponies

[Anonymous No.6856675]

>>6854758
No problem, right, guys?

[Anonymous No.6856676]

>>6856675
Oh wait, now that I realize it, leg is too big.
I gotta resize that later

[Anonymous No.6856695]

day 69
i think i discovered something obvious

[Anonymous No.6856697]

what do you guys think about this b4 i start coloring? (its gojover)

[Anonymous No.6856704]

I got these new brushes, but I’m not sure how to use them yet. Do they look promising, should I learn? Sometimes I worry textures like these are too gimmicky..

[Anonymous No.6856711]

Don't even know how to ask for advice I haven't read anything on perspective because it takes too long I just skim videos and just keep drawing what I see or imagine. But I know I'm missing so much. First BG without a reference that I have finished in a looong time.

[Anonymous No.6856712]

>>6856675
Hey puss-puss, did you ever think of taking the pose? You are trying to force the other figure's face to be shown resulting in that arm being drawn incorrectly. Either redraw the arm and the other figure together or accept that you are going to have to cover the face with the arm in the way. I'm not going to invest too much time on this redraw so it can be thrown to the wayside or ridiculed and belittled by a kruggertard - I know your type. >>>/b/906563541

[Anonymous No.6856732]

>dont draw much digitally
>Gonna get the supplies for inks soon
Got 608 on my credit card.
>from past purchases
But its coming up at the 3rd anyways. Fuck it we ball. Gonna make the daily arting one way or another.

[Anonymous No.6856748]

>>6854937
>>6854943
>>6855024
Chains are fun though

[Anonymous No.6856756]

>>6856732
*blocks ur path*

[Anonymous No.6856762]

>>6856756
I wanted to add some pilot V10's for madcharcol sketchy sketches. But I could do the same with microns tbqh. Plus I got a staedtler for the sketch drawing. Mainly gonna grind Hampton & Bridgman studies outside of digital; so I can actually draw daily, and not be tied down to the computer.
https://youtu.be/6Zn3ZjIpWEM?si=mD6nnhmLqHYTxOi-

[Anonymous No.6856763]

>>6856762
>also planning on digitizing the Trad works, to add colors digitally.

[Anonymous No.6856776]

>>6854707
>how the fucking goddamn shit fuck do you fucking draw big eyes without them looking terrible
Flip
The
Canvas

[Anonymous No.6856782]

>>6854885
you could emphasize more of the turning of the head like in your ref, look how much the far eye gets foreshortened
also try drawing the nose smaller

[Anonymous No.6856785]

I (hastily) finished my study of Rackham. I rushed a lot at the end with the shadows and the print because I don't want to think about this tomorrow. It was almost fun.

Is "study" the right word, by the way? Trying to copy something? Or is a study more nuanced than that?

[Anonymous No.6856838]

I haven't done my daily gesture drawing today yet.

[Anonymous No.6856849]

>>6856838
Did me some small, simple hampton x bridgman testing. Hoping to make it a daily thing, even if it starts shitty.

[Anonymous No.6856891]

colored version finished guys

[Anonymous No.6856892]

Hadnt done heads in a while.
>>6856891
Cool color use dude.

[Anonymous No.6856894]

>>6856712
Geez, no need to be so rude
Fine. I'll redraw the arm

[Anonymous No.6856904]

i remember why i don't like coloring and shading again, it takes too much time
i'm far too used to just sketching and refining right into the linework

[Anonymous No.6856906]

>>6856711
Nothing strikes me as looking off at first glance anon.

Maybe it's because the scene is in a clearly organic environment and the brain is used to seeing trees at odd angles and uneven ground.

[Anonymous No.6856920]

>>6856639
Thanks, Anon!

[Anonymous No.6856928]

[Anonymous No.6856934]

Starting the day with some timed figures

[Anonymous No.6856955]

>>6856583
>but one thing that helped me was Marco Bucci's course and his youTube channel
Which one, there's several videos about color theory

[Anonymous No.6857016]

its gojover. any crits pls?

[Anonymous No.6857017]

>>6856217
Oh, hey, we started drawing at around the same time I think. Good to see that you kept going.

[Anonymous No.6857044]

>>6856928
i did a study too

[Anonymous No.6857047]

>>6856928
i did a study too

[Anonymous No.6857066]

>>6856934
I'm taking WAYYY too long on these shit apples
think im going to simplify heavily and lean more into brush economy

[Anonymous No.6857079]

>>6857016
I'd do more contrast and play with the levels and hue's.
kinda feels plastic with too much saturation

[Anonymous No.6857091]

>>6854885
Idk I see no issue with the eyes, sure they could be better but they are totally fine, it's not like the rest of tbe drawing is on a far higher level so you are good

[Anonymous No.6857106]

>>6857066
Still taking too long
also, I lost some depth on this one because I didnt use enough dark values
oh well

[Anonymous No.6857131]

Does a distinctive style come naturally for each person no matter what drawing medium one tries to go for? Even if they try to forcefully mimic a certain style?

[Anonymous No.6857227]

Top four were drawn with reference, bottom one without.

[Anonymous No.6857237]

hello, critique?

[Anonymous No.6857256]

>>6857106
relaxed study, one hour
had fun

[Anonymous No.6857270]

Just started water color. Anytips?

[Anonymous No.6857277]

I bury my hand cooking dinner last night so now I can’t draw
I might die too

[Anonymous No.6857285]

>>6857277
>I might die too
Don't get my hopes up.

[Anonymous No.6857292]

how do people achieve simple cartoony styles that ooze appeal? This is what I want, not photorealistic 9001 hours in ms paint rendering.

[Anonymous No.6857305]

>>6857285

[Anonymous No.6857308]

[Anonymous No.6857309]

>>6857292
time x effort x consistency
just find lots of art that appeals to you, break it down and try to implement it yourself

[Anonymous No.6857325]

>>6857292
another example, very different but still simple and appealing
>>6857309
I don't know how to break it down or implement it myself

[Anonymous No.6857334]

>>6857325
Yeah don't even try, just say you can't. The true /ic/ way.

[Anonymous No.6857335]

[Anonymous No.6857336]

>>6856849
Are you doing Hampton's analytical anatomy course?

[Anonymous No.6857337]

rule number 1 when asking for advice:

ask for advice on a specific issues and explain what you are doing and your thought process so people have better knowledge of context and your thinking/process to more easily pinpoint a problem and give you advice/help

asking for advice like "what do i improve?" isnt helpful neighter to you nor the person that truly wants to help

[Anonymous No.6857340]

Is it worse when I draw the raccoon girl or the girl with a raccoon?

[Anonymous No.6857343]

>>6857337
That’s good advice when dealing with intelligent, mature people (e.g., not you or anyone else here). In practice, on /ic/, saying “advise me on x” will just result in smarmy retards (e.g., you or anyone else here) to say “oh, you think only x is your problem?”
I’ve seen it plenty of times.

[Anonymous No.6857344]

>>6857340
>"But who knows where he'll float to when i run out."
The raccoon is gonna fuck her, isn't he?

[Anonymous No.6857348]

>>6857343
then ignore what isnt helpful, it is better to ask for advice and filter through the trash to find good advice than to never ask for advice

it is the internet, someone said something you didnt like? block, ignore, log out, walk away etc...

[Anonymous No.6857351]

>>6857344
I do not lewd this pair of characters.
>>6857348
>then ignore what isnt helpful
That’s why I advise people not to bother with you idiots at all. You don’t actually think you are capable of being helpful, do you?

[Anonymous No.6857361]

>>6857351
>You don’t actually think you are capable of being helpful, do you?
i am same anon as your original reply, so i guess i ahev been a little helpful
stop focusing on the negative

also, cool art, ive seen your work before on other threads and you also seemed self-conscious a bit but you shouldnt, it is very refreshing to have people draw a narrative instead of le pinup in a void, youre on the right track, keep going anon

[Anonymous No.6857368]

>>6856891
I love it, anon. amazing color

[Anonymous No.6857372]

>>6857361
Yeah, yeah, I know how you assholes are.
Go fuck yourself, retard.

[Anonymous No.6857373]

>>6857361
>>6857372
Anon touched the poop.

[Anonymous No.6857383]

>>6857343
This man gets it

[Anonymous No.6857414]

people truly are too retarded

[Anonymous No.6857417]

>>6857337
>>6857348
>>6857361
anons like this one always go away and then we are left pieces of shit like
>>6857343
>>6857372
>>6857373
>>6857383

[Anonymous No.6857420]

>>6857417
pyw

[Anonymous No.6857423]

>>6856955
The art of colour and light with Marco Bucci
It's in one of the op links in the video course thread

[Anonymous No.6857436]

>>6857417
I actually try to give advice whenever I can and I always encourage people, especially beginners. Seems like you're the type of person that you yourself don't like

[Anonymous No.6857439]

>>6857436
>one anon posts basic advice on asking for advice since a lot of people do not get advice because they always ask open ended questions without much context
>low self-esteem anon agrees but then complains its no use asking for advice
>first anon responds to just ignore the negativity
>low self-esteme anon proceeds to get butthurt and begin typing like theres a big ic conspiracy
>crabs pounce on the oportunity to shit up the thread
you sir/madam/"it" are a retard
dont want advice cuz you think its useless because of "muh crabs"? then dont post anything holy shit i can smell the mental illness

[Anonymous No.6857443]

>>6857436
gib adbice on this pweeze owo

[Anonymous No.6857456]

>>6857417
That’s because it’s what you deserve.
You’re welcome.

[Anonymous No.6857457]

>>6857443
lrn to draw scrub

[Anonymous No.6857468]

i somehow mustered the strenght to draw for at least 30 mins for 5 days straight. I feel very lost and discouraged, i wish i had started drawing sooner.

[Anonymous No.6857473]

will do torso tomorrow but not quite pleased with the head

[Anonymous No.6857474]

>>6857439
>>6857443
meds.

[Anonymous No.6857485]

I just realized you're actually supposed to think when you draw. Every part should be thought of in a purposeful way as you draw it, not just this crazy spazzing out with your pencil as you vaguely picture what you want to draw and then just magically hope that will somehow work

Why did it take me so long to realize this

[Anonymous No.6857497]

Roast me please. Also, why does everything turns to shit when it comes to rendering? Should I use thicker lines? Or I dunno, make better cleaner lines?

[Anonymous No.6857504]

>>6857497
are your are not doing actual line art you are just tracing the outlines from your sketch.
its a lot more finer work than you think.

[Anonymous No.6857547]

First actual class of proko figure drawing done. I realized I'd been drawing gesture all wrong

[Anonymous No.6857554]

How the fuck do I learn to accurately copy? I can't take it anymore.

[Anonymous No.6857555]

>>6857468
What's the back to work program you're using?

[Anonymous No.6857569]

>>6857456
>>6857457
>>6857474
retards

[Anonymous No.6857573]

>>6857497
You lack line weight variety. Your stabilizer also looks like it might be up too high, but I guess that is really personal preference.

[Anonymous No.6857584]

>>6857497
pro tip: inking is done as if you were sketching but more controlled, that way you avoid the shitty pseudo-vector art look that makes it weird

example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STKHGV_gxBw&ab_channel=AKIHITOYOSHITOMI

also
>>6857474
>>6857457
>>6857456
retards

[Anonymous No.6857586]

>>6857497
Where is the rendering.

[Anonymous No.6857601]

>>6857497
Your lines are the same width, face looks like it has no chin, Ilove that yoiu're drawing an older character.
I just drew what I would do going forward with this drawing.

[Anonymous No.6857612]

>>6857554
That looks pretty good, what's wrong with it?

[Anonymous No.6857613]

Tried to do some toons using the exaggerated boxes method from loomis, thus without reference.
It's been a while I tried that.

[Anonymous No.6857621]

Got any good tuts for drawing chibi? Or maybe what style is most often employed so I could go from there? I'm kinda interested in those where the eyes are two vertical lines.

[Anonymous No.6857632]

>>6857621
You just have to copy chibi art to learn how to draw chibi art. Eventually you'll get the shapes into your hand.

[Anonymous No.6857634]

>>6857621
literally just google and youtube search chibi tutorial you dumbass

[Anonymous No.6857636]

>>6857632
Any good chibi artists?

>>6857634
I have a bad hunch about those guys over there. I want someone who actually regularly draws that stuff and keeps it in that Japanese spirit, if you get me.

[Anonymous No.6857687]

>just realized a couple of anons haven't posted in a month or two
damn

[Anonymous No.6857691]

>>6857687
Who?

[Anonymous No.6857699]

why do i suck so bad. is it just loomis? should i use a different method?
this shit took me hours and its shit and its making me mad

[Anonymous No.6857700]

>>6857586
Sorry, I mean line work or whatever.

[Anonymous No.6857708]

>>6857699
It's not so bad, keep going. You need to do things slow before you can do them fast

[Anonymous No.6857725]

>>6857573
Thanks for the tip on the stabilizer still very new on using a tabllet. I guess I better read up about line weight.

[Anonymous No.6857742]

>>6857691
The guy drawing Bridgman figures with cat ears and that one dude with the red figure sketches.

[Anonymous No.6857748]

>>6857699
Dont mistake the browline for the eyeline.

[Anonymous No.6857773]

>>6857699
You can use other construction methods besides loomis. It might be helpful to draw a cube, a partial sphere within the cube, and then use the bottom of the cube for jaw placement

[Anonymous No.6857840]

Hello beg. Cars go brrrrrr

>>6857621
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6950364
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/53515488
>>6857613
goofy, flat and somehow nice
>>6857554
why do you think i am copying all these books anon? to get the mileage. just draw
>>6857547
yup these look like gesture
>>6857473
very disturbing. i kneel
>>6857468
nice catboy on right
>>6857443
that is pretty solid anatomy knowledge for a shitpost
>>6857335
radracoon you have very unique way how to render. the value range is poor in this one
>>6857270
looks nice. you should develop some cope method for when paint spills past the outlines. probably use less water or paint over it some "background"
>>6857256
very nice flow to it
>>6857237
the shades are garbage. it isnt as bad as pillow shading, but it is very close to it. the nails on feet are lazy, same as hiding both hands. value range is also bad. Her head nose + mouth suggest 3/4 view, but her eyes are in dead center. hair texture isnt distinct enough so it looks like plastic tubes instead of strands. for coomer art pussy made out of a single line is unacceptable
>>6857016
i liked the red version way more
>>6856904
these are cool, are you INT?
>>6856785
i like this a lot. you could call it master study: trying to copy/replicate piece made by somebody miles better than you: hoping to steal their art gains
>>6856711
>takes too long
that is just your zoomer brain with depleted dopamine receptors: reading art book takes 5 minutes reading and then 3 hours drawing. the reading is nothing in comparison. dont let the hyperactivity win. the composition is weird: you basically have half of canvas taken by nothing.
>>6856704
trying to find good brush is a cope. it is all about skill. when i am learning new app i just use brushes 1 by 1 to find the "good" ones
>>6856499
cool composition and idea, terrible choice of colors
>>6856493
next time use line about 2~4 times thicker. this is too thin. Very good otherwise

[Anonymous No.6857898]

Tried lighting this one not sure if it's right though
Lines might be to thin as well

[Anonymous No.6857915]

>>6857840
“Cope” I mean, yeah, for baseline drawing ability. Obviously it won’t make you better at art. But the brush does matter, it drastically changes how you have to approach form and some require practice to use as intended. I’m asking specifically because it takes my art, stylistically, in a very different direction. These brushes aren’t compatible with fine lines - that’s not something I’m used too. I didn’t know if it had appeal worth pursuing. Here’s what my “usual” brush looks like. It’s very different, I think.

[Anonymous No.6857922]

is it true that art students in elite schools spend their first year basically only doing master studies?

[Anonymous No.6857929]

Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.6857933]

>>6857929
Did you mean to leave the crawling ants selection line in there?

[Anonymous No.6857936]

>>6857933
Yeah, it's just a snapshot of an active WIP, didn't see the reason to remove it.

[Anonymous No.6857937]

>>6857929
Otherwise, I like it a lot

[Anonymous No.6857940]

Multitasking.
I just inherited enough money I giveto give a shit about where to put it.
I'm watching bullshit YouTube videos on investing.
I bought a new TWISBI fountain pen and I'm trying to learn how to use it. I'm drawing these YouTube assholes while watching the videos without pausing, so it's kinda hard, especially when they keep moving and switching to charts.
I haven't been drawing much lately with everything going on, so send me a (you.) It's been a rough few weeks.
I used to send my drawings to my mom for attention, but she's dead now and I have her money to manage. (Very sad. Was happier living check to check and having her alive.)
I might buy a gold nib flexible fountain pen, except I suck and should learn to draw better first.

[Anonymous No.6857968]

advice on my wip? I am trying to be more deliberate about varying line weights and drawing attention to different areas. I want to put emphasis on the areas closer to the eye (front arm and leg) and keep the other lines relatively thin. I kept the left side of the body thicker as well. Also the areas of contact like the arm hitting the leg and the leg bending I added extra weight. Ignore the shoes please

[Anonymous No.6857986]

>>6854675
bee girl pls critique
(I cant draw bodys for shit so im not even trying atm)

[Anonymous No.6857990]

>>6857336
>Hampton's analytical anatomy course
Never heard of it before. Just have his one book. I'll give that a look! Ngl the two pictures were just freeballing, no ref used.

[Anonymous No.6857998]

>>6857840
>these are cool
thanks
>are you INT?
i can't answer that one, others need to do it for me

[Anonymous No.6858026]

>>6857990
Ah, I recently was recommended it so I wondered. It's in the torrent in the video course thread. How do you like the book?

[Anonymous No.6858042]

>>6858026
Book was pretty dope in getting started with gestures to constructions. Landmarks helped alot.

[Anonymous No.6858052]

I AM FINALLY DRAWING GESTURE
my shoulder is kinda hurting again though which is concerning. I'm hoping it's just soreness because I've been trying to keep good posture while drawing

[Anonymous No.6858077]

>>6857840
When are you gonna start drawing porn?

[Anonymous No.6858087]

>>6857840
>chibi books
Thanks!

[Anonymous No.6858088]

>>6857968
I would put more time into trying to understand how to draw solid form for now, instead of line weights. If you can, get everything by Glenn Vilppu and study his stuff religiously.

[Anonymous No.6858102]

>>6854675
trying to piece together a process for learning how to draw anime girls. Here's what I have figured out:
>start with Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain (but ignore the pseudoscience. This book helps with drawing what you see learning perception.)
>Do lesson 0 & 1, maybe 2 of Drawabox. (dont go beyond this as it is a waste of time and teaches you to be too stiff when drawing insects n shit)
>Do Dynamic Sketching by Peter Han (Is there a torrent somewhere for this? I am not paying 1000 dollars for an online course!)
>Move onto this guide: https://davidfinchart.com/where-to-start-and-where-to-go-from-there-a-roadmap-to-professional-quality-art/
>Stan Lee’s How to Draw Comics the Marvel Way
>Bridgeman (again focus on the images not the text)
>Loomis
>Drawing Power: The Human Form & Girls
>look at favourite artists and start to emulate their style and begin drawing anime finally
Should I add or remove anything here? I know DRSB is hated on /ic/ but it is motivating me a lot as someone who has zero skill

[Anonymous No.6858109]

>>6858102
sounds good, actually. Perfect preliminary work before you tackle the David Finch roadmap. If you can't find Dynamic Sketching by Peter Han, I think Michael Hampton's book is great. Just take the concepts there and apply it to other subject matter, if that's your wish

[Anonymous No.6858115]

>>6857986
hard to really critique cartoons without it becoming about changing the style into something more "correct and realistic" or into "insert my pref type of art here"

that said, look at your fav artists and see how even tho they may draw simplified and cartoony, you can still see how they know their fundies and not everything is done "just bcuz i like it that way" which is the main pitfall of this kind of style of drawing

[Anonymous No.6858122]

Working more of the head from last time, and did the good ol' 1/3rd pose.

[Anonymous No.6858127]

Thoughts on the lighting not sure if I got it right

[Anonymous No.6858131]

>>6858102
just copy your favorite anime drawer twice

[Anonymous No.6858149]

>>6857337
i do that but then i end up accidentally writing like 3 paragraphs lol...
still good advice tho

[Anonymous No.6858155]

>>6858131
everyone says not to rush into drawing anime before you learn realism

[Anonymous No.6858163]

Day 27, nearing my 1 month mark of learning

How do I get over the feeling I have that i'm only getting good at learning to copy/do studies, rather than actually improving at drawing?
It seriously worries me that maybe I'm not actually getting anything out of my time other than being able to better copy other peoples' work

also please critique the work, one major issue I know i'm having is drawing stuff too small or too large, I guess that's something that's fixed over time as you become better at seeing proportions and sizes?

[Anonymous No.6858168]

>>6857555
timerchan search the archives for link

[Anonymous No.6858169]

>>6858163
Do a few copies and then draw them from memory, look at the mistakes and do it again

[Anonymous No.6858171]

>>6858163
>How do I get over the feeling I have that i'm only getting good at learning to copy/do studies, rather than actually improving at drawing?
>It seriously worries me that maybe I'm not actually getting anything out of my time other than being able to better copy other peoples' work
do memory drawings, anon. After you make your careful study, put away the ref and redraw what you did from memory. It makes the visual information come out in your imagination drawing. Forcing yourself to recall what you studied even just one time makes an amazing difference

[Anonymous No.6858172]

>>6858169
haha, didn't see your reply when I wrote mine. I'm glad this idea is getting popular enough on /ic/. Memory drawings are totally underrated. Most people think they're a lot harder than they actually are, but if you just copy it once, it's very easy to redraw from memory

[Anonymous No.6858181]

>>6858122
anon i love your shapes

[Anonymous No.6858184]

>>6857325
If you can't visually break it down, try to recreate it. You'll see the process is a lot simpler than it looks.

[Anonymous No.6858189]

>>6857485
Based realizer

[Anonymous No.6858190]

[Anonymous No.6858191]

>>6858190
thats a damn good book.
I recommend it.

[Anonymous No.6858197]

I'm sorry if this is a stupid question
But what exactly are you supposed to do when you reach these pages?

Are you supposed to copy them or are they there just as an example on how you WILL be able to do with later on?

[Anonymous No.6858199]

>>6857898
Yes, line weight is very inconsistent. Top of the head is the most glaring example, goes from thick to squiggly wiggly. Maybe you're zooming in too much?

[Anonymous No.6858204]

>>6858197
You can copy them. You can also not copy them. You can copy your favorite artists. You can draw from life. You can also draw from imagination.

The point is just to practice and apply those concepts.

(I would recommend copying them though. Copy them, then redraw from memory)

[Anonymous No.6858205]

>>6857940
Things will get better anon. Good on you for being smart with your money, I would also talk to a good financial advisor. Keep drawing friend, get good pencils first before a good pen.

[Anonymous No.6858208]

>>6858181
I appreciate it! Trying out new facial styles.

[Anonymous No.6858209]

>>6858191
Is it a compilation of Proko lessons?

[Anonymous No.6858212]

>>6858209
it has words and its was written by someone.

[Anonymous No.6858218]

>>6858127
Rightermost pouch on her torso is shaded wrong, Her right arm should also have a shadow falling on her torso, also I think her left arm is not far enough back to warrant that much light on it, it looks very close to her body. I think these are the most glaring from my simple /beg/ eye.

[Anonymous No.6858222]

>>6858190
Line work is inconsistent.

[Anonymous No.6858224]

critique on this pose please?

[Anonymous No.6858226]

where do i find ideas for poses? pinterest sucks

[Anonymous No.6858282]

day 70
ughuuuhg

[Anonymous No.6858333]

>>6855492
Thanks, it’s actually harder to nail the subject down with less color choices

[Anonymous No.6858351]

>>6858205
>pencils
I got plenty. Here's the last picture I sent my mom. I've done better. This was just a quick sketch. I'm just thinking about this pen right now.
>good financial advisor
I actually had a bad one but /biz/ straightened me out. I'm not going into the details here, but you can talk to them about the value vs cost.

Thank you for the reply. Going to work.

[Anonymous No.6858354]

Taking a Vilppu lesson again after learning on my own for a while makes me feel like I completely forgot how to draw...

[Anonymous No.6858410]

>>6857612
Neck is too small, collarbone is too high, ribcage is too far out on the left side, arm is too far out on the left side, deltoid area is too big on the right side, etc. It's just not accurate enough. When I compare my copies to copies of other anons mine just look like shit.
>>6857840
I know, I just feel like I'm missing something and should be better at copying by now. I've been drawing a few hours almost daily for a year now.

[Anonymous No.6858535]

Hi /beg/
Is it possible to get good line thickness on smooth paper or should I just ignore that and focus on other stuff for now? Like shading is harder on smooth paper but you can do it with more patience

[Anonymous No.6858542]

>go the weekend without drawing
>first sketch is unspeakably terrible
It's joever

[Anonymous No.6858545]

>>6858542
>shitty zoomer speak
Yes, it's certainly over for you.

[Anonymous No.6858546]

>>6858410
Honestly anon I am just a beg so take this with some salt but I don't think there's a purpose to going too hard on perfect copying. You captured all the important info from the source. Do you think whoever drew what you are referencing would make a collarbone the same width if asked to draw it again? Especially without staring at their original image while doing so.

[Anonymous No.6858551]

>>6858535
This may not be of much help to you but whenever I see proko pop up on youtube or what have you, he tends to achieve width through multiple strokes. I think that's kinda standard for experienced artists.

[Anonymous No.6858555]

i thought i had it in me but i cant draw shit
am i retarded? should i kill myself right now?

[Anonymous No.6858556]

>>6858410
Anon honestly your copies are fine. I think you can move on to other stuff in order to have some fun.

[Anonymous No.6858560]

>>6858551
It actually does help
Might not be as natural as rough texture paper but it does replicate quite well, thanks

[Anonymous No.6858565]

Been struggling with some major laziness called art block. Trying to get back on the saddle.. >_< 2 hours of sketching.

[Anonymous No.6858575]

Fuck me. Bottom left at least feels like a person even if the pose is fucked. My brain just can't wrap itself around the pelvis being tilted back so far. Middle right could be salvageable if I didn't work the paper too hard. Top left makes me want to die.

[Anonymous No.6858590]

>>6858575
Genuine advice anon- don't agonize about a copy being messed up. If it bothers you, just draw it again on another page.
These are just exercises, and believe me when I copied Bridgman I got a lot of poses very wrong.

[Anonymous No.6858613]

>>6858612
>>6858612
new

>>6858612
>>6858612

>>6858555
PYW

[Anonymous No.6858617]

>>6858613
see>>6857699
spent an hour today, not much has changed

[Anonymous No.6859601]

hello, /beg/inner here, critique?

[Anonymous No.6860087]

>>6858617
draw simpler things like fruits or more simplified faces and then move on to harder things