/asg/ - Anime Study General

[Anonymous No.6841556]

Why You Should Copy Anime:
https://i.imgur.com/zNDsyF0.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbKqIJcIUCw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgjx6y6B_G8
Krenz Accuracy Imgs: https://files.catbox.moe/tklkj8.rar
Krenz Courses: https://asgg.notion.site/Krenz-238090f8a5934eb883fc644bef1d1214

**Strive for quantity AND quality.**

Anime Studying:
>Copy anime references exactly and draw them from memory. Use illustrations, screenshots, anime figures, 3D models, etc.
>Don’t copy recklessly. Use construction, color theory, and other fundamental concepts to rehearse a drawing process that you can later easily manipulate for original artwork.
>Post all of your anime studies. Post even when you’re told not to. Create an art community that actually draws and improves together instead of just talking about it.
>Number your attempts and link to your previous posts.
>Critiquers should lead by example by posting their studies.

General Anime Style Discussion:
>Questions about achieving certain styles/techniques/compositions etc.
>Drawing methods, study habits, resources, tutorials, tools, software, etc
>Be specific and try to post a sample of your study attempts before asking for help.

**Draw copies from good anime styled references to mindfully up our mileage, internalize appealing aesthetics, and learn from each other’s processes and knowledge.**

Recommended Resources:
https://pastebin.com/Yz2scAEc

/mmg/ - Manga Making General:
>>>/ic/mmg

Previous Thread:
>>6822743

[Anonymous No.6841573]

>>6841556
>mfw first time in the OP

Day is made.... thank you anon

[Anonymous No.6841646]

>>6841556
Pro tip to people attempting anime screenshot replications:
Use monochrome (or more specifically; no anti-alias) lineart and then smooth it out with Smart Smoothing (CSP).

[Anonymous No.6841649]

how should i properly judge a face, especially on the forehead
i can't tell if i making them too big or its ok enough

[Anonymous No.6841662]

>>6841646
Animation chad?

[Anonymous No.6841702]

>>6841646
thanks anon, i was bottom right in OP and use krita.. is there anything similar?

[Anonymous No.6841729]

Can someone read this..?
I'm having issues following along just by image.

[Anonymous No.6841831]

Hi,

Is Konosuba an OK anime to copy, for a total beginner?
I'm asking since the quality is all over the place, with proportions and all that constantly changing.
Or should I start with a more grounded show?

Also should I be coloring and shading from the start or just do quick line work for now?

[Anonymous No.6841838]

>>6841831
You should just study whatever you find appealing, its all stylization which is based on the same principles.

Also try to color, maybe not everything but at least a few. And don‘t go ham with that either. Just roughly. No one cares if your studies look good or not its about what you take away from it.

[Anonymous No.6841891]

>>6841729
Give a higher resolution and I can read it for you, strains my eyes to read blurry kanji

[Anonymous No.6841892]

>>6841831
any show is fine anon, if you like konosuba then even more reason to use it

[Anonymous No.6841898]

>>6841831
If the style is what you like then go for it, for a technical point, you should never use anime/animation for reference the frames are drawn with animation in mind not to be stared at i.e sasuke broken neck.

[Anonymous No.6841958]

>>6841891
Ill look for one only had this from pinterest

[Anonymous No.6842219]

>>6841838
>>6841892
OK, thanks for the answers.

>>6841898
Yes, I really like the style, but I'm afraid that I won't learn much besides how to draw their faces. The other official art either isn't much better or is in completely different style.

So I was thinking of creating simple 3d models for each character and using them as a reference along the screencaps, like this. So that I can have more consistent proportions (no I don't plan to trace the model, since I know that it wont help me learn).
It also looks like it would be good for learning shading.

Does anybody know of any software besides Design Doll to do that? The free version doesn't let me load saved dolls, and I can't customize the proportions as much as I'd like.
Maybe Blender or something like that?

[Anonymous No.6842508]

random sketch

[Anonymous No.6842513]

Anyone know of YT tutorials that go over choosing colours and values for skin and shadows?

Following along with this, but he doesn't go over why he chose the specific skin/shadow colours.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mc19XdEe8qg&ab_channel=oridays

[Anonymous No.6842554]

[Anonymous No.6842558]

>>6842554
extremely broken but a fuck ton of soul keep it up

[Anonymous No.6842575]

>>6842513
Wondering the same and I watched that video days ago, but trying to pick colors that work for clothing AND skin felt impossible.
I also tried Marc Brunet's method of lowering the value by 20%, increasing saturation by 10-15% and shifting the hue closer to red and it worked like pure shit, so far I've been eyeballing colors and then adjusting them with sliders later, but it takes time

[Anonymous No.6842659]

Does anyone know where I can learn this type of construction?

Most books I've seen looking nothing like this yet there's a ton of people that sketch and build the figure like this...

[Anonymous No.6842660]

>>6842659
intredasting....

[Anonymous No.6842661]

>>6842659
great the file fucked me over
>Does anyone know where I can learn this type of construction?

Most books I've seen looking nothing like this yet there's a ton of people that sketch and build the figure like this...

[Anonymous No.6842673]

>>6842661
yeah that anatomy is fucked up, as construction goes, not everyone uses them as guide with specific ways to follow, most of the times is just as guide that can be loosely interpreted by the artist, like a ball or just a blob of paint, don't think too hard. just draw.

[Anonymous No.6842676]

>>6842558
who drew this?

[Anonymous No.6842774]

How do I make the eyes not look flat here? Been struggling with them to putting them to perspective

[Anonymous No.6842877]

>>6842676
I did nigaa

[Anonymous No.6842891]

so.... any good guides for the torso?

[Anonymous No.6842900]

>>6842891
draw more torsos

[Anonymous No.6842923]

>>6842900
but how tho?

[Anonymous No.6842975]

og thread derailed and died before i could finish. posting here.

>>6842554
based brush pen bro
>>6842877
heat
>>6842774
you're applying perspective by compressing the eye further from the viewer. learn the forms of the eye and compare that to head turnaround sheets.

[Anonymous No.6842987]

>>6842219
Don't overthink, just draw

[Anonymous No.6843020]

>>6842975
very nice on the niddle piece anon

[Anonymous No.6843148]

>>6842774
learn how to draw overlapping lines and add volume with your lines

[Anonymous No.6843244]

>>6841556
Have any of you felt any improvement to your drawing skills when you draw without reference?
I can't decide between studying anime artstyles I like or going the classic route and study real life models.

[Anonymous No.6843283]

Is there a proper way to study rendering? Everyone mentions the general 1/2/3 shadow process but from what I've noticed a lot of artists also put in post processing effects like overlay layers which fucks with a beg trying to study the piece.

[Anonymous No.6844174]

[Anonymous No.6844183]

>>6842558
This is spectacular, reminiscent of the sketches that Japanese animators make. The detailing and accuracy are on point. Do you have any tips for drawing like this specifically? I'm kind of lost atm, and your skill level is precisely where I want to be.

[Anonymous No.6844530]

I read that for japanese artists it should take around 3 years for them to go from nodraw to pro. I was nodraw 3 years ago and still fucking /beg/ today. Am I ngmi, should I just give up

[Anonymous No.6844551]

>>6841729
Think in 3d

[Anonymous No.6844557]

I made these. On a scale ranging from westoid to anime, how would you rate my work? How would you improve it?

[Anonymous No.6844566]

>>6844530
and where are you reading these from?

[Anonymous No.6844655]

>>6844557
I wasn't pleased with the left one, so I changed the proportions a bit

[Anonymous No.6844812]

I’m trying to dissect some of my old stuff, how could I’m improve the face to make this look more like retro anime. Ignore the color and the god awful ca I’m just purely interested in improving the face.

[Anonymous No.6845026]

>>6844183
pyw, and I'll explain my thought process, idk what to tell you if I don't know where you'reat

[Anonymous No.6845069]

Having a hard time doing construction on bodies. Can't seem to figure out any good foundation point to build upon.

[Anonymous No.6845256]

>>6845069
I tried to use less pencil and pure ink drawing. At some point I fucked up the proportion. However as I draw more and more pictures like that my measurement keep improving.

[Anonymous No.6845399]

What's the secret to a cool and unique style? The one I have right now I feel is just generally appealing and clean, which is good for commissions and the like, but not for "the soul" I guess. Besides just sketching a ton and having a handle on the fundamentals, is it really just being more loose and experimental? Those crazy styles from sub-200 follower east asian artists (pic rel) are pretty enviable, and even the ones that end up popular still keep that uniqueness to them.

[Anonymous No.6845667]

>>6842558
>>6842877
These look pretty stiff. Have you considered doing more gesture drawing?
On the one with the two girls you drew one calf of the girl on the left asymetrical to other leg's calf. Like it connects higher and bumps out abruptly instead of just mirroring the other one. Also you like do this thing where you use too many straight lines for the back of the arm and clothes in general, as well as repeating similarly sized shapes for you skirt and hair shapes right next to each other.

[Anonymous No.6845676]

>>6842558
By the higher and lower wrist thing I basically meant that the forearms of the girl on the left looks pretty weird because pose looking like its fairly neutral, yet the hands being in different heights implies there would be a significant tilting of the body, which doesn't look to be the case here. The forearms and upper arms being different lengths from the one other side doesn't help either. I also notice you tend to always draw clothing too stiff and flat, most prominent in the waist band (which should be slightly more curved to show the ellipse), and same for the skirt and sleeves too. All these I wrote in the notes.
TL;DR: A lot of awkward parts but... keep it up!

[Anonymous No.6845785]

>>6841729
-change the lineart color to darker, bit more saturated ver of hair color
-for the shadow make the color a bit lighter than lineart
-for the shape of the shadow, think of it 3 dimensionally and u will end up with a v shape
-blend in the flat color. put down a little bit then use eyedropper to blend it in smooth, repeat
-thin out the edge of the shadow, but to make sure the shape is readable, put a bit of a dark border around it (compare the top image to the bottom, bottom is more flat)
-use the warm colors as highlights and add the cool colors in the shadow, on the side that faces away from the light source

[Anonymous No.6845791]

>>6845676
>>6845667
actual shit critique

[Anonymous No.6845798]

>>6845791
I love it ofc its beautiful never change

[Anonymous No.6845837]

>>6845667
>>6845676
This deserves a pyw

[Anonymous No.6845845]

Tried to also 'reverse' the yellow glow but didn't turn out too good

[Anonymous No.6845857]

>>6845837
>gives simple and clear reasons why anon's drawing is fucked
My guy, the limbs are very clearly different lengths and heights, same for the legs. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to point out the back of your forearm or the skirt shouldn't be a straight line either. I'm not sure if you're being deliberately retarded or not.

[Anonymous No.6845996]

>>6845845
looks retro

[Anonymous No.6846042]

>>6845857
pyw

[Anonymous No.6846104]

>>6841556
>begs are ignored
>most questions are ignored
>only good art gets responses
>3 days
>50 replies

I wonder why no one comes here for advice

[Anonymous No.6846136]

>>6846104
It's the weekend. Last thread was more active

[Anonymous No.6846175]

any beginner perspective video courses that give "homework" or shit to do after each lesson? I'm a retard that needs that kind of stuff to actually learn

[Anonymous No.6846322]

>>6846104
well the vast majority of beginner problems are just the basic fundamentals that arent specifically tied to anime, so the ol learn your fundies is the valid answer, and then you have the people that are copy machines so theres nothing to say about it, is the people that are above low beg that get more detailed help cuz they need just a fine tweak to fix or improve they art which is just 1 step shy to be okay unlike begeinners.

[Anonymous No.6846429]

>>6846322
yeah but telling the person what exact fundlemental they should be working on and what isn't right with their piece, could do wonders for their growth. ignoring them all together is just fucked

[Anonymous No.6846719]

>>6846429
It's never a 1 fundamental problem

[Anonymous No.6846727]

What do you guys think about shading in greyscale and adding color later? Is there any cons to this method?
I personally have never used it, always starting and shading with colors; people say it is easier to start with grayscale, because they don’t have to think about values and hues at the same time, but is that really that big of a deal? I feel like using the grayscale method just results in a de-saturated looking final result. I think I prefer having vibrant colors, and I’m not sure the grayscale method can provide that.
What do you guys think?

[Anonymous No.6846743]

>>6846727
It can do anything you want if you know how to edit colors

[Anonymous No.6846859]

are there any good books on construction made by Japanese artists? doesn't matter if it's translated or not

[Anonymous No.6846926]

>>6846859
Real japs arent constructoids

[Anonymous No.6847032]

>>6846719
Then why bother posting

[Anonymous No.6848208]

What's this filter? I've seen 2 separate artists use the exact same thing now

[Anonymous No.6848250]

>>6848208
This is ordered/Bayer dithering with colors bitcrushed to 1 bit per channel. You can get a similar (same?) effect in GIMP using a 3-bit RGB palette and converting the image mode to Indexed with positioned dithering.

[Anonymous No.6848984]

I'm terrible at drawing bodies. Would sketching some construction over a reference help me improve at all or would that just be a waste of time?

[Anonymous No.6849003]

>>6842975
love the pussy and asshole.

[Anonymous No.6849007]

>>6848984
try it out? you lose NOTHING by trying it?

[Anonymous No.6849017]

>>6848208
What filter? It`s Dwarf Fortress, duh...

[Anonymous No.6849210]

Are there any guides on brushwork and how to apply different pens/pencils to produce different effects? I'm using CSP.

[Anonymous No.6849261]

How do I get over the fear of combining my layers? I want to keep each color separate but the painting guides I am looking at all combine their layers and I'm too afraid to do it because I'll fuck my colors up.

[Anonymous No.6849272]

>>6849261
just save a backup file

[Anonymous No.6849303]

>>6848250
Thanks for the info!

[Anonymous No.6849327]

>>6849210
If you're trying to get the same brushstrokes or effects are pixiv artists you just have to copy and try shit out yourself

[Anonymous No.6849390]

How do you even start doing hair, copying them per strokes?

[Anonymous No.6849581]

>>6848208
I just found out why my twitter is filled with this fucking filter everywhere. It's a filter called "retro game" on ibispaint, I assume it's new

[Anonymous No.6849668]

>>6841898
>you should never use anime/animation for reference the frames are drawn with animation in mind not to be stared
So would you say that manga would be better for references?

[Anonymous No.6849761]

>>6841556

[Anonymous No.6849829]

>>6844557
Pretty westoid. Sorry anon

[Anonymous No.6849915]

Are there japs who draw the nose so I can reference it? Or do I just remove the nose and call it a day? But I like drawing noses.

[Anonymous No.6850179]

>>6842923
vilppu chapters 2 to 5 + grind anatomy

[Anonymous No.6850375]

[Anonymous No.6850519]

this sketch of etna i kinda liked

[Anonymous No.6850776]

>>6841556
Anyone have the thread where anon is just copying anime and showing how good he's got, and the replies are full of people coping that he didn't draw 2000 boxes first?

[Anonymous No.6850785]

>>6850776
Nvm found it
>>/ic/thread/6797613

[Anonymous No.6850971]

I've gotten to the face, can you give me some ideas for how to measure?

[Anonymous No.6851074]

>>6850519
cute. luv Etna.

[Anonymous No.6851082]

>>6850785
this is why no one likes /asg/

[Anonymous No.6851117]

>>6849915
a dot is fine, but a lot of Japanese artists draw nostrils. the point is to make sure the level of detail and anatomical correctness you put on the nose is also followed through with the other features.

[Anonymous No.6851155]

>>6850971
do what you've been doing, but you're also gonna have to do it for the features with smaller shapes

[Anonymous No.6851182]

>>6851155
Thanks. You can see here I made a circle and some shapes representing where her hair is supposed to be. I've moved it over the ref character herself a few times to compare. Then I've redone the lines if they look too different. Should I stop doing that? Am I relying too much on the ref if I do so?

[Anonymous No.6851303]

>>6850776
I drew boxes and studied fundies for a year drawing random stuff before starting copying anime in earnest, I don't think it hurts too much, I'm more comfortable with my studies because I understand what the lines and shading is representing in 3D. It's only gottagofast dumdums that whine and seethe about other peoples' progression path.

[Anonymous No.6851523]

What is the more typical way of adding in thicker lines for the eyes? For this I just drew the outline then colored it in but just using a larger brush seems like it might be more practical.

[z. No.6851572]

Can you Turn on Allow to duplicate as template for Notion I want to add it to my page (Thank you in advance.

[Anonymous No.6851634]

[Anonymous No.6852230]

I just finished this one

[Anonymous No.6852422]

>>6841556
>be me
>28
>liked drawing as a child but wasn't good
>want to try to learn how to draw anime girls
>concerned it is too late for me now
>all the guides said to start by learning the basics of sketching ("drawing on the right side of your brain")
At what point can I move over to cartoons? Does real life sketching actually help to draw waifu's digitally? Am I a lost cause? Should I just move straight to a Wacom?

[Anonymous No.6852473]

>>6852230
coom

[Anonymous No.6852882]

Where can i find good resources to draw those super stylized anime expressions?

>>6852422
It's never too late, it just takes lot of time and effort. "drawing on the right side of your brain" is mostly usless book, it teaches you how to draw what you see instead of what you think to see but it's also filled with lot of nonsense. You can already start drawing what you want to draw, remind that your results will not be great at first. Stick to life drawing, get your head around perspective, basic forms and human proportions. In short, just draw. If you like it you will get better in no time.

[Anonymous No.6852923]

>>6841556
>why should you copy anime
So other than 7 years old screencaps from a random anon and a chink, are there any takes from Japanese artists validating this approach?

[Anonymous No.6852927]

Anyone knows any modern artists who draw retro anime art? I tried googling but all I found were people drawing like sailor moon and putting grain on it.

[Anonymous No.6852937]

>>6849668
Don't listen to him, it depends on the series. Some anime adaptations are supervised and/or made by artists who are vastly more skilled than the author of the source material, or that at least have a style that you find more appealing. It also depends on what you're copying, in the sense that key frames and still shots have a lot of thought behind them as opposed to random inbetween frames.

[Anonymous No.6852943]

>>6852230
nice, what is the original pic?

[Anonymous No.6852965]

>>6852230
>kill peepo all over, ransack villages, destroy public property
>get punished by being turned into a little boy and kidnapped by that semon demen
he won, he fucking won

[Anonymous No.6852988]

Don't meme on me, but what's the "standard" artstyle of anime SD drawn from? Who looks the most similar to it?

[Anonymous No.6853007]

>>6852927
who is the waifu in the right?

[Anonymous No.6853012]

>>6853007
Left: game.
Right: AI.
Cream Lemon SF Choujigen Densetsu Rall

[Anonymous No.6853038]

>>6852882
setteidreams

[Anonymous No.6853093]

>>6853038
those are great but not quite what i look for. I already know how and when to draw stylized expressions. What i look is those heavy graphic ones that looks more like emotes, and not just pictures but rather guides how and when to use them.

[Anonymous No.6853156]

practice

[Anonymous No.6853350]

>>6850971
>>6851182
This is by no means an achievement for any of you guys, but compared to what I made last time and the time before that it's like I get twice as good each time. Please tell me if there's anything I should know.

[Anonymous No.6853437]

>>6852927
Blue the bone

[Anonymous No.6853438]

sorry for being retarded, where is the krenz accuracy course? or is it the videos?

[Anonymous No.6853445]

>>6853438
>>6841556
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgjx6y6B_G8
>Krenz Accuracy Imgs: https://files.catbox.moe/tklkj8.rar

[Anonymous No.6853507]

>>6853093
I've never seen a guide on it but you might want to tear apart a manga or hentai that heavily uses them panel by panel to learn how to use them I find that they're used in manga almost as a fast and easy way to give a character a certain type of personality

[Anonymous No.6853846]

did this today

[Anonymous No.6854160]

I liked aspects of this artstyle so I copied it to try and understand it.
I have acquired new knowledge...

[Anonymous No.6854178]

>>6854160
try a different angle and character

[Anonymous No.6854425]

>>6854178
ngl, I did not expect to get a reply. Here's a slightly different looking character at a slightly different angle.
The nose highlight should look different from that angle, looking at the reference, but I like how it looks.

[Anonymous No.6854643]

>>6845667
based retard

[Anonymous No.6854679]

>>6854160
>>6854425
pretty good study bro

[Anonymous No.6854686]

>>6846042
I posted my work before, here are my studies ttps://catbox.moe/c/k9oyu7#

[Anonymous No.6855995]

>>6853846
do you mind sharing the brush if you use csp

[Anonymous No.6856247]

How about Anons, I come to ask for help with a character that I love with all my heart but I still can't draw and that is Nejire from My hero academia, I have guided myself with the settei and drawings of Horikoshi himself but I still haven't mastered the shape of the skull , hair and eyes.

Is there anyone who can help me see the way?

I attach my last drawing I made of her

[Anonymous No.6856358]

Does anyone know the original artist's name?
>>6838821

[Anonymous No.6856631]

>>6841556
I only have enough of an ego to copy AI.
How do I level up my skills so that I may one day have a hack lora or even checkpoint made of my work?

[Anonymous No.6856799]

wip

[Anonymous No.6856801]

>>6856799
looks really nice anon

[Anonymous No.6857203]

kuroboshi study

[Anonymous No.6857345]

>>6855995
I use real g-pen that's already in csp, if you mean the original artist pen then i have no idea, maybe other anon here can help.

[Anonymous No.6857730]

>>6851523
Are you drawing using a mouse?

[Anonymous No.6857993]

Does anyone know where I can find full-process videos of anime illustrations like pic related? Especially the eyes and the hair, I always have trouble transitioning from line-art to paint-like, and I would like to see how they use layers exactly for the optimum workflow, my workflow is fucked, it consists of "just create a new layer and fix".

[Anonymous No.6857995]

>>6857993
Obviously, it doesn't have to be as complicated as this pic, Just the face will suffice.

[Anonymous No.6858165]

>>6856247
Your shits gonna get ignored and you won’t get any help. The only people that get replies are already good enough which makes the thread redundant. Post this in beg

[Anonymous No.6858249]

>>6858165
Ok, an apology.

[Anonymous No.6858336]

>>6857730
No

[Anonymous No.6858382]

Is learning to use a box rather than egg shape for the torso worth the effort?
For some reason I find it way harder but it seems the most common way to draw the torso among japs

[Anonymous No.6858414]

>>6858382
learn perspective

[Anonymous No.6858522]

>>6856799
you polished way too much for how shitty the anatomy and pose looks. the arm going back is FUCKED. also the pose of the legs is weird desu. try doing this pose. it's uncomfortable

[Anonymous No.6858536]

Drew over an old thing.

[Anonymous No.6858653]

How do I get better at rendering, I'm trying my best to replicate the colors and edges but no matter how much I try to soften or harden edges my copies turn out kind of subpar to the original.

[Anonymous No.6858659]

>>6858382
how about you learn how to draw the torso, not a box or an egg

[Anonymous No.6858660]

>>6858653
Retard.

[Anonymous No.6858669]

>>6858653
>values off
anon...more value studies

[Anonymous No.6858692]

>>6858382
>Is learning to use a box
>box
cubes, anon....cubes....

[Anonymous No.6858703]

>>6858249
No need to apologize this place is terrible for learning beg is genuinely better if you want to improve

[Anonymous No.6858707]

beg or not is in the eyes of the believers

[Anonymous No.6858717]

>>6858653
it's not bad but if you want better defined edges, you need to make the shadows darker or there won't be enough contrast between it and the light areas

[Anonymous No.6858744]

>every csp I find triggers AV
I will buy pro when it goes on sale. Surely I will benefit from this.

[Anonymous No.6859665]

>>6841556
I'm going through the krenz videos. What does it mean for a picture to have a strong shape language?

[Anonymous No.6860010]

it just doesn't make sense. how do you go from left to right?

[Anonymous No.6860012]

>>6860010
then they tell you to imagine in in nonsensical shit like this.

[Anonymous No.6860014]

>>6860012
i just can't imagine stuff like this. there's no visual in my mind no matter how hard i try

[Anonymous No.6860024]

>>6860014
then when i try it, it looks like absolute SHIT. i don't understand why.am i mentally ill. am i unable learn?

[Anonymous No.6860080]

>>6859665
>strong shape language?
>big medium small
>csi
>complex and simple
the most obvious one is studio trigger

if you want to more info about it, skim through Krenz Rhythm Course

[Anonymous No.6860106]

How do artists come up with poses? If I go on the boorus there's like 1M+ images and each one is unique, but how?

[Anonymous No.6860236]

>>6860106
They are not unique. Some artists even recycle the same 3/4s pose almost exclusively.

[Anonymous No.6860244]

>>6860236
Am I overthinking my shit too much and getting into study hell? Should I just try putting some pieces out even if I think they suck?

[Anonymous No.6860268]

>>6860024
Yes

[Anonymous No.6860304]

>>6860010
Just draw the rest of the owl? It's not complicated.

[Anonymous No.6860321]

>>6860244
pyw now

[Anonymous No.6860404]

>>6860321

[Anonymous No.6860405]

>>6846322
There's no single fundamental to work on with begs. They literally suck in all aspects of art.
The best thing to do as a beg is to follow a course/book instead of looking for advice on a forum.

[Anonymous No.6860413]

>>6860010
>>6860304
Loomisgods stay winning.

[Anonymous No.6860452]

>>6860024
bony landmarks. you use the vertices of the boxes to map out the places where bones protrude
at the upper box for example, the lower vertices are where the ribs flare; the upper corners of the hip box are where the illiac crest flares, etc

[Anonymous No.6860465]

>>6860010
I'm currently practining tuning simple shapes into something which resembles anatomy, and I'm seeing improvements currently, if you want, I can share with.you my beg wisdom on how I am practicing

[Anonymous No.6860489]

so let's say i can already draw anime looking bitches.... but my anatomy isn't full polished/still beg and my fundies arent there either did i already made it?

[Anonymous No.6860514]

>>6860489
yeah, throw some flats and basic shades and you can post a dozen shitty farts a day and get a million followers

[Anonymous No.6860646]

>>6860514
It's amazing how many people will see a good image and think it's shit but add some basic shading and you're suddenly a pro with years of experience.

[Anonymous No.6860704]

>>6860465
nta but I wouldn't mind seeing them as a fellow beg

[Anonymous No.6860825]

>>6860012
it wasn't as hard as i though, my perspective is all over the place tho.

[Anonymous No.6860842]

>>6860404
arm fucked, eyes too wide and ayy lmao

[Anonymous No.6861008]

>>6860825
this is real nice where did you learn anatomy

[Anonymous No.6861046]

what level should i be at before i try copying animu shit

[Anonymous No.6861080]

>>6860489
i want to rape and impregnate your character <3

[Anonymous No.6861137]

>>6861080
not my character, she was supposed to be red chaika.

heh nice cock, not homo.

[Anonymous No.6861352]

you ever get bored

[Anonymous No.6861377]

>>6861352
I suck at rendering and rendering is the fun part so I get bored

[Anonymous No.6861388]

>>6861137
your girl is unironically cuter, despite the weird torso in the og.

[Anonymous No.6861392]

>>6861352
I love being bored

[Anonymous No.6861526]

>>6860404
cute

ignore the other anon who doesnt know basic body proportions

[Anonymous No.6861529]

>>6861526
pyw.

[Anonymous No.6861643]

h

[Anonymous No.6861782]

>>6858536
I like this. A bit more polish and it could make a nice looking wallpaper.

[Anonymous No.6861808]

>>6845667
>Also you like do this thing where you use too many straight lines for the back of the arm and clothes in general, as well as repeating similarly sized shapes for you skirt and hair shapes right next to each other.
Nigga do you know what style is or are you just a socialist?

[Anonymous No.6861871]

>>6861808
No. Almost every good artist, even Krenz will tell you to use a combination of CSI lines as well as using Small, Medium and Large. Go study more shape design if you dont understand

[Anonymous No.6861907]

I don't usually do studies and it shows, shapes are mostly alright but my composition of the shapes is too messy

[Anonymous No.6861918]

>>6842975
The asiatic troon

[Anonymous No.6861926]

>>6845845
I believe that stuff like that is probably some after process like in after effects

[Anonymous No.6861929]

>>6849761
Exhaling gmi vibes

[Anonymous No.6861941]

>>6861907
As a /beg/ even I can see that you know what you're doing anon. The tiny liberties you take still implement very well regardless of if they're exact or not. Very nice.

[Anonymous No.6861948]

>>6841556
thoughts?

[Anonymous No.6861989]

>>6861907
another one, trying to be more mindful of lines

[Anonymous No.6861995]

Why do people on this board call stealing someone else's art "studying"?

[Anonymous No.6862009]

>>6861995
If you learn something even from copying it's still studying anon. No one here's trying to pass off the studies as their own.

[Anonymous No.6862011]

>>6862009
Don`t feed the troll, report him.

[Anonymous No.6862012]

>>6861948
That's my fucking fetish.
what's your blog?

[Anonymous No.6862014]

>>6862012
>>6861948
Degenerates get lost in /lsg/

[Anonymous No.6862029]

>>6861948
roomis it needs

[Anonymous No.6862054]

>>6862012
dont have one but have this instead
>>6862029
basically no idea how to draw nipples

[Anonymous No.6862146]

>>6862054
>breeding kuruminha
beyond based

[Anonymous No.6862791]

I'm trying to draw hands, and it's still quite difficult.

[Anonymous No.6862795]

>>6862791
Also a timelapse of an anime floating head from imagination.

[Anonymous No.6862814]

>>6862795
All that work, all for the face still be fucked in the end.
back to loomis for you

[Anonymous No.6862819]

>>6862814
It looks fine, stop being a crab.

[Anonymous No.6862859]

>>6862819
nah

[Anonymous No.6862874]

>>6862859
Left is more expressive. Right looks like she's bored/has no emotions.

[Anonymous No.6862877]

>>6862874
Nta but that sounds like cope. The other guy sounded overly harsh but one can acknowledge that his edit is an improvement

[Anonymous No.6862880]

>>6862877
>>6862874
yeah I was being a massive faggot, my apologies
if you truly feel like the original is much better, then so be it.
im just a guy on the internet, so you have no obligation to automatically agree to what i say

[Anonymous No.6862892]

>>6862859
>Left
consistently flat artstyle.
>Right
attempted to model form/perspective but it just made the character look broad-shouldered, which probably wasn't the original intention

[Anonymous No.6862896]

>>6862892
nigga, that aint broad shouldered at all, especially with a kimono on. look at the size of her head compared to the width of her shoulders
what kind of crack are you smoking

[Anonymous No.6862910]

>>6862814
okay but for real, will doing loomis help me even if I primarily want to draw anime?

[Anonymous No.6862918]

>>6862859
Left is passable, you can still argue that it is a "style", right definitely feels more solid, the jew felt very long indeed, but damnit anon, why do you have to type like a crab?

[Anonymous No.6862921]

>>6862918
>the jew felt very long indeed
Oh god!

[Anonymous No.6862922]

I'm getting out of here bros...

[Anonymous No.6862977]

how that fuck you draw side face?

[Anonymous No.6862980]

>>6862910
I guess a little? Anime fans are pretty brainrotted so as long as you draw giant eyes they'll excuse almost anything else.

[Anonymous No.6863033]

>>6862859
Left looks cuter

[Anonymous No.6863039]

>>6863033
ngmi

[Anonymous No.6863118]

Every time I see this pose in one of these nopan photos it always looks weird to me, reminds me of shitty hot dogs glued together. But the anatomy often isn't technically incorrect, it just feels wrong to me. Does anyone have any proper reference photos for this pose?
The example on the right seems more like what the two on the left should be in theory to me.

[Anonymous No.6863156]

>>6863118
you're correct, left is the safe option for shit artists

[Anonymous No.6863206]

holy shit cgsg was right, all you people do is hyper-fixate on loomis lines to draw mediocre anime girl heads

[Anonymous No.6863240]

>>6863206
People here don't even Loomis lol

[Anonymous No.6863255]

>>6863118

[Anonymous No.6863370]

quick accuracy practice

[Anonymous No.6863428]

Should I do krenz' color/shading course to improve? Or is there something else?

[Anonymous No.6864004]

>>6863428
you should keep working on your drawing skills. Learn basic shading/construction though but the krenz course is high beg/ int

[Anonymous No.6864131]

Why would I learn to draw anime from a chink instead of a Japanese teacher?

[Anonymous No.6864156]

>>6864131
at some point, the chinese started to draw better anime than japs do

[Anonymous No.6864197]

>>6864156
Not really, I can probably get fill this thread naming Japanese series while there are literally 0 noteworthy chinese anime

[Anonymous No.6864204]

>>6849261
Kind of a mean way to put it but just be less of a bitch about it. Just because you laid something down already doesn't mean it's sacred. You're painting. You can paint over any part at any time, it's extremely correctable.

[Anonymous No.6864231]

>>6864197
only referring to the anime art style, not shows or mangas

[Anonymous No.6864270]

[Anonymous No.6864285]

>>6842558
twitter?

[Anonymous No.6864329]

>>6864231
They can't because all their work is derivative, chinese "anime" is just like evertything else they make: cheap copied trash.

[Anonymous No.6864390]

>>6849761
I really really like it a lot lot
>>6845667
I'll keep it in mind, but anon you could have written all that in 3 lines, plus you wrote it in such a pedantic way it makes sense everyone jumped at your neck. I'll listen to some things and I'll ignore others, but I'll keep them in mind stay autistic nigger retard. love you

[Anonymous No.6864397]

>>6864329
>derivative, chinese "anime" is just like evertything else they make: cheap copied trash.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Krenz is taiwanese, just like Mai Yoneyama(probably the most recognizable artist in japan rn)
Nice try troll

[Anonymous No.6864450]

>>6864004
Thank you, could I ask you to tell me or show me what I got wrong when constructing her? I can provide a better quality picture of the drawing if needed.

[Anonymous No.6864516]

>>6864397
Two literal whos whose only merit is copying a foreing style, a drop in an ocean compared to the number of Japanese artists with profound and longlasting global impact in art, hell we're in /asg/ not chinese crap general, for starters. My point stands in that krenz is no authority in the topic, or as much as an authority as any other random non Japanese artist with a faux anime style, and the only reason he's featured in the OP is because him or some other dog eating subhuman kidnapped the general.

[Anonymous No.6864521]

>>6864516
>Two literal whos whose only merit is copying a foreing style
>Mai Yoneyama
concession accepted

[Anonymous No.6865603]

>>6862814
Hey anon thanks for commenting my work, you were even so kind as to show me its weaknesses. I really appreciate it.
And thanks to everyone for commenting too, here's another study I did.

[Anonymous No.6865773]

>>6862859
right actually looks better, but left is still cute

it looks like what the result would be of a pro vs study

>>6862814
>>6862859
you should word your messages better, you don't have to massage someones dick but stabbing it is just going to get your (good) advice rejected by default

>>6863370
anon that pic is literally AI
imagine studying anime AI holy shit the absolute state

>>6865603
cute

[Anonymous No.6865775]

Anyone have a good render guide?


I'd like to draw a single character without the coloring looking like a burns victim

[Anonymous No.6865832]

[Anonymous No.6865867]

Damn, they're mogging us, /asg/bros
>>6794273
>>6794374

[Anonymous No.6866474]

>>6865867
>anon posts anime girl
>they all start freaking out and telling him to leave
uhuh

[Anonymous No.6866491]

>>6866474
This is more than this general can ever produce

[Anonymous No.6866562]

>>6866491
I did, once. Badly.

[Anonymous No.6866613]

Think i'm getting the feel for observational studies, should I incorporate something like value next in my practices?

[Anonymous No.6866674]

>>6866491
There are some good artists there but you're not one of them

[Anonymous No.6866756]

>>6860024
you’re a coom brained pedo that’s why

[Anonymous No.6866906]

>>6865867
>Starting a console war with /cfsg/
You don't even draw.

[Anonymous No.6866923]

From むらいち

[Anonymous No.6866925]

>>6866923

[Anonymous No.6867437]

>>6866491
Top fucking kek. Meanwhile this sorry general is infested with stupid copyfags circlejerking each other with how they can photostat randomass contours like clueless atelierfags
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHH

[Anonymous No.6867867]

I know there is a leap in time from the coloring process. What I want to know right now is if I did something wrong in the construction part?

[Anonymous No.6867886]

>>6867867
dios mio

[Anonymous No.6867913]

>>6867886
Yeah I know. But I don't know why? Is it the original already being kind of ugly combined with my sloppy drawing skills and not doing my very best to set the eyes and mouth? Is it the fact that I can't shade at all for the life of me?

[Anonymous No.6867952]

>>6867913
>>6867867
stop with the box faggotry, did u just come straight from dab? that obviously isnt a reproducable method as your construction is F L A T SQUARES

[Anonymous No.6867970]

Can someone please draw her a pose

[Anonymous No.6867975]

>>6867970
onit

[Anonymous No.6868006]

>>6867970
You will stunt yourself if you don't learn how to draw bodies

[Anonymous No.6868061]

>>6867970

[Anonymous No.6868066]

>>6868061
I'm gonna cry
What is wrong with you

[Anonymous No.6868067]

>>6868066
you didn't rike it?

[Anonymous No.6868070]

>>6868061
Good work man

[Anonymous No.6868098]

What happened

[Anonymous No.6868126]

>>6868098
some faggot janny or most likely one of the /ic/ discordtrannies that are his butt budies coomplained. remember you can have ai slop shitposting threads for weeks and nothing happens i drew a completely sfw image based on a request like type of a post and i got banned

remember this guy, he is either a discordfag or worst a janny.

[Anonymous No.6868200]

>>6868126
Not every general has to be your pedophile breeding ground. Stay in your glowthread.

[Anonymous No.6868440]

>>6868200
t.janny also a perma/beg/ on top lmao.
stay in your discord bubble scribbling your unfinished doodles.

[Anonymous No.6868473]

holy based
pedo seamonkey deserve the rope

[Anonymous No.6868512]

>>6868473
he sounds like that dumb south american throwing darts in the dark

[Anonymous No.6868626]

>>6868440
Why is an /asg/ shitter talking shit? You fuckers are worse than /beg/s

[Anonymous No.6868699]

>>6868626
PYWYW(post your work you won't)

[Anonymous No.6869138]

>>6866491
I'm not racist btw. But It looks like a bunch of brown people trying to draw anime.
That's really cool you guys are having fun. But you're never going to shake off that greasy-dirty feeling your works give off if you don't study.

[Anonymous No.6869145]

>>6869138
/asg/ is a bunch of brown people who can't draw at all so it's not much a difference.

[Anonymous No.6869162]

>>6867952
The boxes are for getting the dimensions right, I can use construction along with them can't I? I know it clearly wasn't sufficient for getting a good result here, but I thought it could work since copying a blob girl using just circles feels even more easy to mess up.
Show me what you would do please.

[Anonymous No.6869180]

>>6869138
I'm a brown person, and I legit don't understand your comment

[Anonymous No.6869186]

>>6869138
Ok, try again but without sounding mad.

[Anonymous No.6869200]

Did this today

[Anonymous No.6869212]

Critique pls.

[Anonymous No.6869256]

>>6867913
>>6867867
>>6867952
>>6869162
NTA, but had a go

Here is my PYW >>6865775 (it got no (You)'s)
so if you don't like it then feel free to ignore my post

[Anonymous No.6869337]

ill redo the clothing properly eventually..

[Anonymous No.6869363]

>>6849761
I really really like these
>>6845667
you could've said all that in one line anon, you said it in kinda of a pedantic way, that's why everyone jumped at your throat
>>6864285
@iBaylego
i don't use it much tho

[Anonymous No.6869377]

>>6869180
He thinks passing as a Japanese person is more important than being good at drawing which is funny because asg barely does either.

[Anonymous No.6869396]

>>6869363
That dear is disturbing, when's hunting season?

[Anonymous No.6869410]

>>6869337
I like the face but her arm is too short
also fucked up hand
and the titties are aesthetically bad, but thats just my opinion
otherwise good job bro, keep it up

[Anonymous No.6869416]

>>6869337
It looks great except the hand imo
I like the slightly saggy tits

[Anonymous No.6869518]

>>6869337
quick overpaint, dont be afraid of contrast and saturation, the hand is fucked and so is the one I drew

[Anonymous No.6869545]

>>6869518
tits RUINED
torso was already bad but you made it worse
2/10

[Anonymous No.6869619]

I'm retarded please help
(to me) it looks fine in the lineart but falls apart structurally on the color, is my mind just making me think it looks fine on the lineart? doing the mirror flip thing but looks "fine" both ways

[Anonymous No.6869758]

>Turned off lazy nezumi pro
>Nothing changed
>Turned out stabilization was doing all the work
>turns out the magic was inside me all along

anyway how does this Nier look? Am I clear to start coloring it at least

[Anonymous No.6869783]

you need a lot more magic lmao

[Anonymous No.6869786]

>>6869758
wtf

[Anonymous No.6869857]

>>6869786
i traced those, I had no idea how to make them

[Anonymous No.6869966]

>>6869857
well trace better, anon. Looks terrible.

[Anonymous No.6869968]

>>6869212
go to /cgsg/

[Anonymous No.6870032]

>>6869786
anatomy needs more work, bnut desu the pose is boring as fuck you can find the same pose all over make it more dynamig and uhh livid? it looks very forgetable

[Anonymous No.6870035]

>>6870032
all over the boorus*

[Anonymous No.6870047]

>>6869138
>implying anyone here makes anything close to comparable to azn genes tier

[Anonymous No.6870052]

>>6870032
that's pretty cute, I might actually look up more dynamic poses, I sorta just went with the most common jiangshi pose

[Anonymous No.6870056]

>>6870052
oh isnt that the zombie like pose, arent the arms supposed to be extended more straightened to the front

[Anonymous No.6870061]

>>6869619
just shade it, it looks fine for flat colors

[Anonymous No.6870085]

>>6870047
>azn

[Anonymous No.6870103]

>>6866491
Asg is a study thread for beginners learning how to draw and the rare int doing some studies on the side, art generals usually have a higher median skill level due to them not being focused on studies. Mid level artists are good enough to not need studies be the only thing they make so they have less incentive to post in study threads.
That's why generals like the female, male threads, salt, etc have higher quality pieces. Pretty much once you graduate from only doing studies you move onto original pieces in generals.

[Anonymous No.6870640]

>>6869212
draw a few more from imagination emphasizing the structure

[Anonymous No.6870685]

Makimas study, I feel like I put more shadows than needed but it was fun

[Anonymous No.6870795]

>>6870685
TYOU SHOULD PUSH YOUR VALUES MORE ALSO EAR TTOO HIGH

[Anonymous No.6870803]

[Anonymous No.6870837]

>>6870803

[Anonymous No.6871222]

Guys how do I learn to draw like studio trigger, they have such nice flowly and energy laden figures that are full of life. What construction should I use for them? They have really weird proportions, I know that copying them will help, but I feel like I need a solid understanding of exaggerated perspective and gesture first maybe? Could someone like Mike matessi be helpful to learn this?

[Anonymous No.6871876]

[Anonymous No.6873142]

rip /asg/

[Anonymous No.6873161]

>mfw I just noticed my drawing in the OP collage
Neat, thanks.

Where's the new thread?

[Anonymous No.6873217]

New Thread:
>>6873216
>>6873216
>>6873216