/beg/ & /int/ - Beginner and Intermediate Thread

[Anonymous No.6830789]

If you are a /beg/inner or /int/ermediate in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
Use this thread instead of making new threads or post in the drawthread with fundamental exercises.

>READ THE STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
Old: http://www.squidoo.com/how-to-draw-learn
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
>TRY TO BE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK.
When giving feedback, avoid vague "advice" - point what's wrong and try to give the anon you're quoting a clear direction
to improve their art (study heads < watch THIS VIDEO about head structure, read THIS SECTION of THIS ARTIST'S BOOK, etc).
You, feedback seeking anon, should also try to be clear and concise when asking for critique/help.
When posting your artwork, say what you want help with, and what's your goal with the study/artwork.

previous >>6827342

[Anonymous No.6830797]

>Zoom out on canvas and its too hard to draw details
>zoom in to draw details and I can't see the big picture

its over.

[Anonymous No.6830799]

>>6830797
I changed from an old 20in monitor to a 27 and this problem has disappeared completely. Especially since I now use the 20in as a second monitor to have the reference on.
I also have a large sized tablet, which is pretty important with a screen that big.

[Anonymous No.6830808]

>>6830789
Oooh, I like parachute pants girl.

[Anonymous No.6830813]

>lvl.0: copying the "idea" (childlike symbol drawing)
>lvl.1: copying the points, lines and shapes (basic copying)
>lvl.2: copying the form
What's the next level guys? I need to go farther

[Anonymous No.6830817]

heh, shitter coming through
watched a glenn vilppu video after anons suggestion and im trying to do gestures(untimed but not spending a ton of time)

[Anonymous No.6830818]

Well? >>6830816

[Anonymous No.6830820]

I'm very curious. I was told on another board I scratched/chicken scratched. I'd like some /ic/ perspective. I admit I was very defiant when told that because I disagree on what chicken scratching looks like. However I didn't completely reject the advice and decided maybe my lines could be better and am working on them after doing this drawing.
Do you think I scratched ic? In my eyes, I think they saw my sketch as scratchy. But I think my bold lines are quite confident. At worst, I think some of the lines are aimless or lack a clear purpose or are random, but not necessarily scratch.
I drew it out in a very loose way and then outlined it, so maybe in that sense it's scratch? Let's settle this for good.

[Anonymous No.6830824]

Been drawing on paper instead

[Anonymous No.6830827]

>>6830813
Go watch sinexs videos "draw like a painter" and "paint like a sculptor".

[Anonymous No.6830829]

>>6830789
Nothing's wrong, right?
I'll proceed to the coloring now

[Anonymous No.6830830]

>>6830789
lunch break quicky

[Anonymous No.6830835]

>>6830820
I don't think that's chicken scratch, but it'd still be good to practice line economy.

[Anonymous No.6830836]

>>6830829
reminds me of an ape

[Anonymous No.6830838]

>>6830829
The girl on the left has a right arm that's 3 feet long and has 2 elbows

[Anonymous No.6830840]

>>6830820
Nah tell the anon he's a braindead zoomer and keep doing what you're doing.

[Anonymous No.6830841]

>>6830835
Line economy? Like how many lines I use to reduce clutter? I think that makes sense.

[Anonymous No.6830845]

>>6830824
>Been drawing on paper instead
Really nice to see.

>>6830820
Clear enough for animation, it's just not cleaned up.

>>6830830
What could she be expressing with this gesture?

[Anonymous No.6830848]

I don’t draw anymore because you people wanted me to stop. What good is an art board that discourages art?

[Anonymous No.6830850]

Do not feed it.^

[Anonymous No.6830851]

>>6830838
What?
Anyway, this is my ref

[Anonymous No.6830853]

>>6830851
That makes sense, you've combined both her right arms into one, that's why it's so long and broken.

[Anonymous No.6830855]

>>6830853
I have no idea what are talking about

[Anonymous No.6830859]

>>6830855
Both *their* right arms. Look carefully at the reference and at your drawing. If you really don't see what's wrong with the arm I doubt anybody can help you.

[Anonymous No.6830868]

>>6830853
>>6830859
this anon is correct

[Anonymous No.6830869]

Another day, another portrait. This time using mainly soft brush with the smudge tool. With the hair, I tried to see how much I can get away with just pushing a little paint around. Trying to rely less on drawing the features and more on good edges to bring out the forms.

[Anonymous No.6830871]

>>6830853
>>6830855
Here is the sketch

If you are refering to the red girl's right arm, it's
upper part meant to be covered by the boobs

[Anonymous No.6830879]

>>6830855

[Anonymous No.6830883]

>>6830879
That's not long. In fact, I kinda traced that part

[Anonymous No.6830890]

>>6830883
Yeah I'm done. Your drawing is perfect, keep doing what you're doing. Don't forget to post.

[Anonymous No.6830892]

>>6830890
You know what? Give me a red line

[Anonymous No.6830895]

[Anonymous No.6830915]

>>6830871
bwahahaha look at the arm

[Anonymous No.6830917]

>>6830915
Give me a redline

[Anonymous No.6830920]

>>6830845
>What could she be expressing with this gesture?
at first i was going for a "wtf is this" but got lazy

[Anonymous No.6830942]

>>6830883
do you actually not see whats wrong about it? you basically fused the two arms together and added a wrist between her elbow and wrist. like you see the bend of the front girls wrist on your reference? you fused that fucker onto the back girls arm

[Anonymous No.6830944]

>>6830942
I did not

[Anonymous No.6830945]

>>6830869
Blog.
Now.

[Anonymous No.6830951]

>>6830944
that curve is wonky as fuck man. i like the rest of the drawing but damn how do you not see it

[Anonymous No.6830955]

>>6830951
That's meant to be covered by the boob

[Anonymous No.6830957]

>>6830951
I think he gave the girl in the back huge tits and one of them is supposed to be covering the arm. It still reads like shit and looks like an arm with an extra wrist

[Anonymous No.6830960]

>>6830955
that tit is extremely deflated.

[Anonymous No.6830961]

>>6830955
maybe someone in /sex/ can help this pest.

[Anonymous No.6830963]

>>6830961
>>6830960
Jesus Christ
Give me a damn redline, I beg of you

[Anonymous No.6830974]

>>6830963
You have 3 options:
a) move the arm in front of the tit
b) make the girl in the back to spread her legs more so the whole arm is visible
c) both

[Anonymous No.6830977]

>>6830974
*sigh*

[Anonymous No.6830980]

>>6830829

[Anonymous No.6830983]

>>6830977
You've gotten more help than any other anon for the past 10 threads. We've made abundantly clear what's wrong with the image.

[Anonymous No.6830988]

>>6830980
Cool. I'll take this
Mind if you add a proper boob squeeze if the arm is below it

>>6830983
No.

[Anonymous No.6830992]

>>6830988
>No.
Sorry about whatever your condition is, then.

[Anonymous No.6830994]

>>6830992
There's no "we" if you never gave a redline, sorry
They did, not you

[Anonymous No.6830995]

>>6830988
>Mind if you add a proper boob squeeze if the arm is below it
You can do whatever man, just use construction and you'll figure it out.

[Anonymous No.6830996]

Some faggot in the last thread said I stole this art because he couldn't reverse image search it... I just don't post my art I show to friends and family. Here's some of my work on the same area same background same easel and table and a fucking timestamp. My shit is 100% mine

[Anonymous No.6830998]

>>6830996
I recall someone saying that they don't believe it was yours unless you post a timestamp photo, not that you've stolen their art.
You're still a Dunning-Kruger victim though.

[Anonymous No.6831000]

>>6830996
You're probably really cute in an annoying vtuber sense.

[Anonymous No.6831003]

>>6830996
Show some more of your groundbreaking paintings that represent real value, please

[Anonymous No.6831011]

>>6831003
I read that Dunning Kruger effect reply, idk if that was you, but yeah I don't think my art is good in a sense of anatomy or structure even blending, I just meant it means something to do me so it has value,

Obviously there is much better art and artist on this thread and I'm sure they make things of value, I was trying to say I'd rather see people's physical artwork or just some unique ideas I guess, was not saying I'm Francis Bacon or even a good artist just that it's unique im not that retarded.

[Anonymous No.6831019]

>>6831011
Do you not think this is art? What do your paintings have that this doesn't?
I'm trying to understand you

[Anonymous No.6831026]

>>6831019
That's art technically, but being realistic it's just porn nothing more nothing less, but sure it's well drawn porn for whatever thats worth. I'm not against lewd art it's totally been a thing forever and draw porn if you want, but compare that to the screaming pope by Francis baccon or any of David Lynch's artwork and tell me that they are of equal value.

Again your porn is better drawn 100% but I don't make art so people can cum

[Anonymous No.6831029]

>tfw skipped drawing yesterday, and is tempted to skip today as well
Fucking Baldur's Gate 3 making me NGMI
im going to draw RIGHT NOW

[Anonymous No.6831030]

>>6831026
It's not mine, the artist's name is Winton Kidd.
I get having different opinions but I think it's really dismissive of you.
I'm not at all a fan of Bacon, but I wouldn't just throw away a whole category of art because it doesn't meet my arbitrary standards.
Well unless it's weirdo nihilist modern art

[Anonymous No.6831032]

>>6831029
just draw something related to baldurs gate

[Anonymous No.6831035]

>>6830829

[Anonymous No.6831036]

>>6831035
bwahaha

[Anonymous No.6831038]

>>6831032
I need to finish pic related, then I can draw whatever

[Anonymous No.6831040]

>>6831035
>purposely widening it
Wtf is wrong with you

[Anonymous No.6831042]

>>6831030
Yeah I'm not trying to be mean or dismissive, it was just a massive disappointment for me that I go to the beginner art thread and it's literally all porn not a single abstract or different idea's, and only pencil sketches

The pencil stuff I totally get and am just personally not a fan of but that's just me. Again draw and post all the porn you want, I would just much rather see something some anon created just because he thought it was cool or wanted to say something.

[Anonymous No.6831046]

sry to make a new thread, didn't check this one here but I had quite a lot to say, so I'd appreciate some feedback >>6830873

[Anonymous No.6831053]

>>6830980
Not the sex pest, but thank you for drawing out the front girl’s right arm
For some reason, the articulation of the arm/shoulder blade as the arm reaches up is hard for me to wrap my head around

[Anonymous No.6831070]

>>6831042
Abstract Art isn't art, and you're not expressing yourself as well as you think you are

[Anonymous No.6831084]

Can really command the video course on gesture from brent eviston, it's in the /IC/ torrent for what ever reason his method clicked the most with me. Great teacher.

[Anonymous No.6831088]

>>6830789
I drew Goatji

[Anonymous No.6831091]

>>6831084
Pyw before and after course.

[Anonymous No.6831092]

How can you take a pic with your phone but not have it be a gorillion pixels big? Would like to post and share, but it’s always way way too big without reducing it down on a computer

[Anonymous No.6831093]

>>6831088
Also why does my art have 0 appeal?

[Anonymous No.6831094]

>>6831042
nta but in my opinion, you really shouldn't abscond into the abstract until you have the basic of fundies.

[Anonymous No.6831103]

This is the last time I'm trying to draw watermelon texture

[Anonymous No.6831112]

>>6831103
Is that Majima?

[Anonymous No.6831114]

>>6831112
Yeah

[Anonymous No.6831117]

>>6831103
For texture, simplify. You dont need to draw texture on the whole watermelon, mostly on the focal point.
less is more.

[Anonymous No.6831124]

>>6831042
I told you last night anon because it was your trees specifically, and if you're going to do Twin Peaks stuff, learning trees is ESSENTIAL.
5 minutes of a Bob Ross video, and I think my trees are better than yours, and I just have standard base "paint" brush that came with adobe. With actual brushes and paint you can do 10 times better with little to no effort. Get the basic stuff done, then add your abstract ideas.

[Anonymous No.6831129]

>>6831088
i hate that faggot so much, gojo is the real main character unironcally

[Anonymous No.6831131]

>>6831094
Thanks, and yeah I definitely need to learn some basics, I just have bad mental illness so it's hard for me to sit and learn and practice because I don't like it because it doesn't look like the thing I'm trying to copy so I freak out and destroy it and am pissed for a long period of time lmao, you can imagine how art class in school went for me lmao,

Let's just say my self portrait wasn't good and the teacher didn't like me shit talking until she cried lmao.

>>6831124
Yeah I definitely fucked up the trees on that painting from last night, thank you for trying to help and I hope you have a good day, I will try a Bob Ross video but I'm quite the retard so I'm scared i won't be able to follow along and then I'm gonna smash all the shit in this room.

[Anonymous No.6831132]

>>6831042
>>6831070

There's no use arguing what is and isn't art. This thread is about sharing our practices and giving/receiving feedback either related to technique or composition. Personal tastes shouldn't affect that, and if it does you're better of just ignoring it.

For paint-anon, no offense but your work looks like it was done by a child. Maybe that's okay for you and how you want it to look, but it's kind of hard to look at and take seriously. If you could improve your representational accuracy (ie. make a tree look like a tree and not a series of brown smears) That can go a long way to giving your art more impact and presence, thereby imparting your intended feelings. Maybe you're eager to work on full pieces, but do give some thought to focusing in on practicing individual things.

[Anonymous No.6831135]

>>6831093
Watch a tutorial on composition
It's well drawn but bland

[Anonymous No.6831139]

I wanna do some one minute gestures.
Would anyone have a collection of poses to share?
Help a bro out.

[Anonymous No.6831140]

>>6831139
Just look at your reference folder
Or get a manga. See which pose you want to challenge

[Anonymous No.6831141]

Can someone please tell me whats wrong with this?
I know its not perfect but I just can't grasp the exacty issue. it looks off.

[Anonymous No.6831143]

any good platform to get varied and dynamic poses for 30 seconds gestures?

[Anonymous No.6831150]

>>6831141
Hair looks like clay and wearing so much stuff that covers the body's proportions or feautures will make things look weird especially if you don't even add any shade to bone structure and mouth to the mask but do it for the nose

[Anonymous No.6831152]

>>6831140
>Just look at your reference folder
Have no such thing and id rather start off with irl humans.
I'm very much a Beg.
I'll just scroll through pinterest for poses if no one shares anything. Should be good enoughw

[Anonymous No.6831153]

>>6831131
Keep a good head on yah when you can. If the painting is too much, maybe change up mediums once in a while. It helped me

[Anonymous No.6831156]

>>6831152
Sucks to be you
I have GBs worth of pictures I found interesting found alover the net

[Anonymous No.6831157]

[Anonymous No.6831162]

>>6831141
Unskewed it for you.

[Anonymous No.6831166]

>>6831156
Alright i'll start collecting then ig
Care to share some of hours?

[Anonymous No.6831167]

>>6831141
this anon is correct >>6831150
I'm no good at hair myself, but you should ad some more shading/color

[Anonymous No.6831170]

>>6831046
watch the videos in the sticky that should get you started, maybe some other expert anons can drop more help for you

!!X!!

[Anonymous No.6831171]

>>6831156
>>6831152
pyw anon, I'm curious to see the difference between someone with gigs of reference vs someone with none

[Anonymous No.6831176]

>>6831171
There will be none lol
Only difference is how fast you can grow

A guy with a tool will do the task faster.

[Anonymous No.6831179]

>>6831171
I don't draw enough to have a lot of work to show for. Just whenever i strike a fancy.
Heres the last solid thing i did.

[Anonymous No.6831182]

>>6831179
Fucking

[Anonymous No.6831185]

[Anonymous No.6831201]

>>6831182
>>6831179
Alright, well if you dont have a ref folder (the other anon is right, build one) then just take what you did, and maybe try and shape it out to see what you are doing. Create your own refs

[Anonymous No.6831212]

>>6831201
I just wanted to get some quick gestures in to feel productive before i hit the bed.

Should i also be deconstructing everything into basic shapes like that?

[Anonymous No.6831233]

i keep drawing figures but they’re really messy, rushed and disproportionate, how to get better? is it worth copying figure drawings or should i still use photo refs

[Anonymous No.6831240]

>>6831212

Posemaniacs is a good resource for gesture. they use 3D models so you can get some weird angles and can look a little stiff. but it's totally free with no account needed and you change the interval for how long you have to draw and pause whenever you like.

Line of Action is another site I like to use although you need to make an account to use it and you're only allowed to do a set of 10 2-minute gestures if you don't buy a subscription. Still a good daily practice resource if you want real human photographs doing interesting poses.

[Anonymous No.6831244]

Is it Ok to post this here?
and if so, do you guys feel the perspective works/is the concept interesting?
https://i.imgur.com/b8wKMWL.jpg

[Anonymous No.6831248]

>>6831240
Whoops I meant "Bodies in Motion". Line of Action is also okay for something that's free but they have a very limited library of images.

[Anonymous No.6831254]

>>6831042
Ideas are cheap. It's easy to create art to 'say something' it's difficult to create art to say something and look good.

You're putting yourself on a high horse but reality is what you're doing is so much lower effort than these coomer heads.

Develop your fundamentals more so you can create art that actually looks good and evokes something.

[Anonymous No.6831263]

>>6830789
>If you are a /beg/inner or /int/ermediate in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
Why would this disingenuous advice be posted when it's all /int/s and high /beg/s?

[Anonymous No.6831267]

>>6830848
For seething about AI obviously

[Anonymous No.6831268]

>>6830829
I am so jealous of this anon.
How the fuck do you get all the way to this stage without noticing the glaring problem?
The second I see an error I shut down.

[Anonymous No.6831292]

>>6831263
it's not
and the fact that there are skilled anons is good for the rest of us

[Anonymous No.6831294]

>>6831292
>the fact that there are skilled anons is good for the rest of us
How so? No point in trying when other, younger people are so much better.

[Anonymous No.6831295]

>>6831053
Np man, great that it helped someone else aswell!

[Anonymous No.6831300]

Did the hand exercise from keys to drawing. The fact that I had to keep one eye closed was really bothering me...

Maybe I'll draw some nude woman to unwind

[Anonymous No.6831302]

>>6831300
How long did you take on this?

[Anonymous No.6831303]

>>6831143
posemaniacs and sketchdaily

[Anonymous No.6831304]

>>6831162
Woah. that really makes a difference from glance.

Yeah, im terrible at hair. I watched some guides but still have a lot left to go, know any good tutorials or guides i can follow to start?

Thank you for the help!

[Anonymous No.6831305]

>>6831150
>>6831162
>>6831167
Sorry, forgot to reply to all anons. Thanks again!

[Anonymous No.6831329]

>>6830789
Ayy my knight doodle is featured on the op image again

[Anonymous No.6831332]

>>6831302
I didn't time it, but I feel like I didn't take long enough. Around 20 minutes I would say. A bit tired and impatient today, but I guess mileage is still mileage.

The ass turned flat, I guess partly because I don't know how to render properly. One of these days I'll practice that in a study-study way, but now I'm just glad I could draw a nude woman to finish off the day. Very therapeutic.

[Anonymous No.6831334]

>>6831329
>doodle
How long did this "doodle" take you?

[Anonymous No.6831336]

>>6831019
He has schizophrenia.

[Anonymous No.6831338]

I'm still trying to understand how to properly 'study'. I was told a legitimate method of studying is finding something you like then copying it. I searched pencil drawing on pinterest that I liked and tried to copy the style. I tried to apply my draftmanskip skills I learned to properly draw from reference. I think I drew it pretty accurate and practiced my observation/ reference drawing skills well, however I don't feel I learned anything. Is this worth just spamming for drawings I like? Or is this worthless and barely even a study? It was fairly quick.
The reference: https://pin.it/aHIPMv3

[Anonymous No.6831345]

>>6831338
If you think you've understood the style, try to apply it. Take a photo reference and recreate it using that style. or take this same image and draw what you think it looks like from the front. A study is a good first step in order to step into the shoes of an artist and try to understand what they were thinking when making the decisions of a drawing, but then you have to see what you can do with it. Play with it, experiment. That's what's going to make the difference between mindlessly copying and truly internalizing the lesson within.

[Anonymous No.6831346]

>>6831042
Sure, but it's 4chan. When you allow stuff that wouldn't be acceptable on other platforms you attract the users that state that kind of stuff. Where else is someone trying to draw big titty anime girls going to get genuine advice?

[Anonymous No.6831350]

100 20-minute sketches
These came out very nicely. There's something about the narrow gel pen that makes chicken scratch art of bones look nice. Well I'd like to think that I've gotten a bit better too.
Definitely moving on to perspective practice. This will take a while...

Full res:
https://files.catbox.moe/txdcww.jpg
References:
https://files.catbox.moe/yk2vr9.zip

[Anonymous No.6831352]

>>6831338
>I think I drew it pretty accurate and practiced my observation/ reference drawing skills well, however I don't feel I learned anything.
this is exactly why you do memory drawings. After you copy something, put away the reference and your study, then redraw it from memory. If you can't do it, try copying just a smaller portion of the reference

If you just mindlessly copy, everything you studied will slip from your mind

[Anonymous No.6831354]

>>6831350
very nice anon, I'm giving you permission to draw anime girls now, you deserved it.

[Anonymous No.6831355]

>>6831350
nice work anon, gmi

[Anonymous No.6831364]

Concepts for a runner girl. 5min each.

[Anonymous No.6831365]

1H

[Anonymous No.6831367]

5min each.

[Anonymous No.6831368]

1H. Tried using clip masks for the first time - went well

[Anonymous No.6831369]

>>6831350
Damn thats some dedication. it actually makes me feel bad.

[Anonymous No.6831370]

Pen, 15min total.

[Anonymous No.6831381]

>>6829784
Some Hampton studies and some are just photo references. Finally feeling like I'm proooooooooogressing. Digital definitely making my work look cleaner even if I don't ctrl-z.

Also fiddling around with the pen pressure curve. I swear the pressure needed to reach max opacity on the default curve would snap pencils.

[Anonymous No.6831398]

I want to start drawing so that i can make ilustrations for characters on my campaigns.
Reading into 3e i found MelUran's art to have a really characteristic lineart and would like t reproduce it into drawings.
Do any of the anons present here know of similar artists, the name of this specific style or which would be the best way to reproduce it?

[Anonymous No.6831405]

>>6831370
Speedy and silverpointpilled.

[Anonymous No.6831428]

Hello, any advices for that? I am trying to follow Asaro head and hands drawing book.
I am stucked on how to draw Asaro head on different views

I am tired of drawing front and side views only, and not characters with some perspective, or even human faces...

[Anonymous No.6831430]

>>6831398
No, sorry. But I did like this sketch, its just too busy for my taste

[Anonymous No.6831464]

[Anonymous No.6831473]

>>6831464
Looks great anon, esp the hands feet. I will say her head looks a little small, but maybe its the perspective

[Anonymous No.6831483]

>>6831038
>file name
Whats med maps?

[Anonymous No.6831491]

finally at head "gesture"

[Anonymous No.6831498]

>>6831483
ahmed aldooris painting course

[Anonymous No.6831499]

I draw to escape reality. When I draw, It's like I and the world don't exist, it's a beautiful feeling. Thank the lord for my ADHD and hyperfocus.

[Anonymous No.6831504]

>>6831381
very nice, good job anon

[Anonymous No.6831507]

Just like I promised I didn’t draw today. I’m still better than you, though.

[Anonymous No.6831515]

Felt like inking today
>>6831334
I didn't time it because I was doing it in class sorry anon! Something in the 20 minutes range but it's hard to say because I was switching between drawing, listening to the teacher and listening to my classmate giving me suggestions for the knight
>>6831428
>I am tired of drawing front and side views only, and not characters with some perspective, or even human faces...
Literally nothing is stopping from drawing characters with some perspective and human faces anon, you'll vastly improve more if you draw what excites you instead of only doing studies from some book that was shilled here

[Anonymous No.6831518]

>>6831515
>20 minutes
But how, man? How long have you been doing this for to get an image of a knight like that? Not to say it's the best I've ever seen, but I can recognize it's supposed to be an old knight guy.

[Anonymous No.6831524]

>>6831368
sausage woman, don't be afraid of straight lines and be more symetrical, leave the right side more straight so the hip on the left side pop. I like the foreshortening of the right leg.

[Anonymous No.6831526]

>>6831518
nta but as a fast drawer myself its just experience drawing fast and loose instead of always trying to make things super perfect and taking an eternity to get stuff down on paper

for example i drew this >>6830830
in 20 max 30min during my 1h lunch break using a quick ref for the pose, it shows its done quick and loose and has plenty of flaws, which also shows how creating the impression of something is good enough to create an image in peoples minds and that you can do fast, and that is part of the trick to getting things down quick on the canvas: disregard perfection embrace impressionism
all the bells and whistles you can add later if you want an example i enjoy of this is seeing phillipe Druillet mogg ameritard artists here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8182YrAbfF4&t=2s&ab_channel=fredericabernkastel
he gets so much down because he disregards detail and goes for the impression and general form

btw being fast isnt something inherently good but it is something you just practise by having tight timings and ofc the better you get overall the easier it is to get things down fast since you need less work to get things correct or "close enough" and it isnt any metric of real skill or merit but just a charateristic of the artist no need to worry about it

[Anonymous No.6831532]

hows my driving

[Anonymous No.6831533]

>>6831504
brush? from who did you learn gesture

[Anonymous No.6831535]

>>6831524
Thanks, I'm experimenting a bit to get the balance of hard and soft contours. Some of my earlier work has been more angular and I prefer that for forms.

Cheers for the feedback

[Anonymous No.6831536]

>>6831532
I like her expression, though I'm not sure if the missing bottom lip is intentional or not.
I want ara ara mage waifu now.

[Anonymous No.6831537]

>>6831526
It hurts when my "best" efforts after an hour or more don't recognizably look like anything except symbolshit at best.

[Anonymous No.6831538]

>>6831504
>brush?
Hard round with pressure opacity and slight size jitter

>from who did you learn gesture
Various sources. Matessi, Hampton, Loomis, Reilly, Bridgman, etc.

[Anonymous No.6831543]

>>6831536
its intentional (AKA I can't make it look good)

[Anonymous No.6831545]

Oh shit I meant this >>6831538 for >>6831533

[Anonymous No.6831558]

>>6831518
>How long have you been doing this for to get an image of a knight like that?
Some of the drawings in here are from 2 years ago... but if you meant to ask about how long I've been drawing that's since I was a baby and could hold a pencil

[Anonymous No.6831562]

>>6831558
Do you make comms anon? like DnD characters and the like?

[Anonymous No.6831569]

>>6831562
I do commissions but the problem is I don't market myself very well and haven't done a commission in a year (?) lol, my last one being solid snake

[Anonymous No.6831577]

>>6831543
just a small line to indicate a lower lip

[Anonymous No.6831579]

>>6831558
>but if you meant to ask about how long I've been drawing that's since I was a baby and could hold a pencil
Consciously drawing?

[Anonymous No.6831582]

>>6831569
That's weird, I mean seeing a guy drawing nothing but knights that he'd just ask you to draw Solid Snake for him. Afaik even Etsy had some artists offering to draw DnD characters, and they seemed to be reviewed pretty well, your skill is on par or above that, just so you know, even some boards in 4chan want to artist for their DnD characters.

[Anonymous No.6831586]

I just finished my lines and was about to start color...but then I thought about adding a loli eavesdropping. Not sure if I should add her, or just color?

[Anonymous No.6831587]

>>6831579
I started consciously drawing and applying myself when I was 15-16ish, before that I was drawing entirely for fun and could not have cared less about studies or grinding or whatever
>>6831582
Well it made sense at the time since I was really into metal gear solid and making plenty of fanarts

[Anonymous No.6831588]

>>6831587
And how old are you now?

[Anonymous No.6831596]

>>6831588

[Anonymous No.6831601]

>>6831596
Damn, that little improvement in so long? There's no hope for a boomer like me, then.

[Anonymous No.6831608]

day 52
can I get some crit on my shading

>>6831370
PAWG pilled

[Anonymous No.6831617]

Lil Bear and Lil Buddy raise the dead.

[Anonymous No.6831618]

>>6831535
>>6831524
sorry, be more Asymmetrical*

[Anonymous No.6831622]

>>6831537
>>6831558
see, like i said, practise and experience, the anon you were confused about how he drew the knight fast has been drawing them for ages

its always practise and exp

[Anonymous No.6831634]

Sup beg. Boat. Very wobbly. Dont skip construction when you are drawing boat.

>>6831586
pro
>>6831532
the barely visible lower lip gives her very curious look. thumbs up
>>6831428
these heads look very goofy lmao.
>I am tired
draw whatever you enjoy? booba and tanks
>>6831398
this looks like basic ink rendering you will see literally everywhere
Guptill Rendering in Pen and Ink
Johnson Treasury of American Pen and Ink Illustration
>>6831370
booba
>>6831350
and the crabs tried to call me insane grinder. i kneel
>>6831338
it is not possible to draw (from ref) and not learn. it is just the change is so small you dont notice instantly
>>6831303
BOOOBA
>>6831244
hello pony poster. the only way to know for sure is to post and pray. i have no issue with ponies but all it takes is 1 unpaid janny to get mad. Composition looks okay
>>6831233
>messy
stop chicken scratching, do less lines, be more confident
>rushed
slow down?
>disproportionate
read keys to drawing, especially the chapter about sighting
>worth
there are 999 books about figure drawing, they help you by simplifying figure and showing you what to look for
>>6831185
the bottom is confusing. where are his legs?
>>6831139
>>6831143
adorkastock.com
>>6831103
SOUL
>>6831092
reduce resolution of photo
reduce quality in JPEG option
fixthephoto.com/best-photo-editing-apps-for-android.html
>>6831046
keys to drawing
>>6831042
Your art output is limited by your current (lack of) skill. IDK how coddled you are, but here we are in /beg. I recc to give up painting for now and learn how to draw: pick up keys to drawing and pen / pencil. Good luck. Dont fall for "modern art" abstract crap.
>>6830895
that face is very beg but i respect the feeling of form and booba
>>6830869
very cool, very smooth
>>6831617
these are getting more SOULful with each post. i love how the light interacts with the trad ballpoint marks. impossible to replicate in digital. But where are they looking? Usually people face the grave, not the other way

[Anonymous No.6831639]

>>6831634
comfy boat

[Anonymous No.6831640]

>>6830789
following up to my post yesterday, done painting.
thank you to both anons for your kind words yesterday, i hope this makes it worth it

[Anonymous No.6831642]

>>6831640
sorry, said yesterday but meant "last thread"

[Anonymous No.6831643]

>>6831640
Hopefully people will disagree with me, but I loved that thing when it was black and white. I had nothing negative to say. It looks worse now imo

[Anonymous No.6831666]

>>6831643
its ok if people dont, i take the criticism on the chin. thanks for being honest. i think i know where its weak, but id still appreciate any feedback where you think it can be improved

[Anonymous No.6831683]

>>6831608
don't shade from imagination. Proko's advice to shade Bridgman is very bad.

Copy the shading from artists or life or photos. You will learn so much more that way

[Anonymous No.6831685]

tonights wip

[Anonymous No.6831695]

Can I get a critique
Sorry about the fetishy theme

[Anonymous No.6831710]

Hey /beg/

I’m beg and we don’t really have a character design general, so that’s why I’m bringing this here. I know my work has plenty of issues, what I’m wondering about is the overall design and potential appeal. I didn’t want to get too complicated, cause I still suck.

I want to grind fundies and have fun, so I’m focusing on design and appeal alongside forms, anatomy, and perspective.

[Anonymous No.6831802]

drawing for today

[Anonymous No.6831831]

>>6831710
i like the hair. directly center almost looks like the head of a phoenix. the most generic anime face possible is detracting from its appeal in my opnionion

[Anonymous No.6831865]

Came home from exams, 40min. Wanted to do rendering but I'm running into layer issues. I shouldn't draw when I'm too tired or stressed. Piss.

[Anonymous No.6831867]

>>6831865
who is this blunderbuss??

[Anonymous No.6831870]

tried sum shiny material

[Anonymous No.6831874]

>>6831365
>>6831368
Great shape design on the shadows

[Anonymous No.6831877]

>>6831867
No ref, invented the character myself.

[Anonymous No.6831879]

>>6831870
oo is that a high int im seeing? very nice anon, the shine is convincing
only crit i have is her eyes don't feel like they're looking anywhere, her left one feels a little lazy, something about the brow/lid relationship is a little off too

[Anonymous No.6831880]

>>6830945
nah don't have one

[Anonymous No.6831884]

>>6831879
is it very weird?
would you perhaps edit it for me? I can't really feel it and I might need fresh eyes

[Anonymous No.6831886]

Trying to get back into drawing after I quit back in 2021 after getting no results for a whole year.

I'm starting again pretty much from zero; not sure where I'm going but for now I just want to be able to confidently (and quickly) transfer the major forms of anything I see onto paper, with correct proportions and clean lines.

Left in all my mistakes here just to give an idea of where I'm at. Mostly I'm frustrated because of how slow I draw; just these two mannequins took two hours. Just wish I could draw more stuff in the time that I have.

[Anonymous No.6831890]

>>6830382
reposting, can I get some feedback on the perspective?

[Anonymous No.6831893]

>>6831884
i wasnt given many pixels to work with but hope this gets my point across kek

[Anonymous No.6831894]

[Anonymous No.6831902]

>>6831890

[Anonymous No.6831903]

>>6831902
thanks kind anon, will take review feedback with next studies

[Anonymous No.6831909]

>>6831038

A lot of your highlights don’t make sense and they all need to be painted better. Your grasp of rendering form isn’t that great in general, work in more of the midtone on the donuts and spheres especially.

[Anonymous No.6831910]

[Anonymous No.6831911]

>>6831831
Thanks Anon.

When you say generic, I'm assuming you mean the expression and overall facial structure/features (or lack thereof)?

I spent too much time trying to make my work look more anime, that I totally lost my sense of soul. It's pretty wild. Not shocking though.

[Anonymous No.6831914]

How do I know if im a begginer, an intermediate or professional?

[Anonymous No.6831918]

>>6831914
Well technically if you are making a living off your art, you are by definition a "professional", even if you have "beg" skills...you wont know.
Your skill is judged by a bunch of crabs and no draws on this board. They will tell you.

And you are beg.

[Anonymous No.6831921]

>>6828067
>>6828141
Is the symbol drawing less apparent in pic related then these? Been getting used to my new tablet. Critiques please.

[Anonymous No.6831922]

>>6831921
Meant the other way around, tired.

[Anonymous No.6831926]

>>6831921
pig nose.

[Anonymous No.6831934]

>>6831926
Yeah, good point. I find the perspective issues with noses and eyes to be a little challenging.

[Anonymous No.6831941]

>>6831683
zapata disagrees, you should do a mix of both. Another challenge is to take an object or figure, and imagine the light source from a different direction.

[Anonymous No.6831943]

>>6831893
Thanks, I think I see it

[Anonymous No.6831945]

How can I get better at drawing people bending forward?
It's so confusing, all the forms just kinda stop overlapping eachoter and just completely obscure one anotehr, it's even worse with hands, it's so difficult

[Anonymous No.6831947]

>>6831011
>>6830996
>>6831026
>>6831042
Oh yeah? Well I just masturbated to completion using your art as a visual aid and there’s nothing you can do about it. Yes, really. Those floating eyeballs(?) can represent oviposition, eggs being fertilized, or good old fashioned tits and ass. Not the easiest fap, but I did it.
>Why would you —
To prove a point.
>I don’t believe you. This can’t be possible, you—
Welcome to 4chan.
>But it’s not meant to be erotic, so it doesn’t count as p—
Too bad. Your art is now porn. Worse, it’s weird niche porn, like wonder bread and deforestation or bathroom tiles.
>But I’m not like all the wannabe coom artists who —
No, you’re even more accomplished. Thanks to me, more people have nutted to your art than have nutted to the art of 90% of all coom artists on this board. Probably even more. You’ve beaten them all. Your art has the coom high score.

Does that lower the value of your art? Did that retroactively suck the value and authenticity out of the earnest effort you put into creating something? No. Not remotely. It’s absurd to even consider that. If anything, it’s got more significance since it could elicit such a visceral reaction, to make somebody feel and experience something — anything —beyond merely the rods and cones of the eye detecting color and value. So what if someone finds it titillating? Good, they felt something. The only thing that devalues art is if it’s a soulless product or propaganda. If you put genuine effort into it as sincere expression, it doesn’t fucking matter whether it’s coom or a still life or fighting stick figures. If you draw erotica, then that’s perfectly valid artistic expression, as long as it’s a genuine effort. Earnest. If you put a little soul into it, breathed a little life into it. That’s where art derives value. The creative human element fighting against entropy. You’ve got a whore/Madonna complex with art, anon. I recommend you get over that.

[Anonymous No.6831960]

Untimed ballerina gestures!
>>6830869
Gorgeous
>>6829815
Oh, I see now. I decided to try that a little bit.
>>6831504
You have some of my favorite gesture drawings I’ve ever seen. Here or anywhere.
>>6830817
Keep it up!
>>6830820
>chicken scratching
Not at all
>>6830824
Based
>>6830983
Her arm should be going over her titty, squishing it.
>>6830895
Good effort, keep going!
>>6831103
I like this.
>>6831131
Getting gains from art is like getting gains from lifting. You gotta consistently be at or near failure. Otherwise you’re not going hard enough to get a good stimulus and trigger significant growth.
>>6831162
Magic
>>6831244
Form-felt and the composition is interesting. Good job. I’m interested in seeing the final result
>>6831303
Man I should copy my favorite hentai twice
>>6831350
I kneel
>>6831370
Nice!
>>6831381
Good as always, anon.
>>6831491
I’d either draw the head and face as the focus, or draw the entire figure with a simple indication for the head. I wouldn’t just do a bunch of closeups on blank head placeholders.
>>6831558
>>6831596
Based, GMI
>>6831608
Can’t tell what this is. An elbow and forearm?
>>6831640
Oh, cool! Yeah, this is much easier to read. Good job!
>>6831685
Love her hips and belly. What’s up with her nose?
>>6831710
>focusing on design and appeal alongside forms, anatomy, and perspective.
Probably a good idea, GMI
>>6831695
The biggest (kek) thing I see is you need better rendering/understanding light and shadow and value. Anatomy and feeling the form is always possible to improve, but I think rendering is the biggest weakness here. Good job, sizechad.
>>6831802
The girl is flat but cute and so is your drawing. Learn to feel the form, then learn light and rendering/values. The lines on her skirt completely ignore the shading and form and stuff btw. Keep it up!
>>6831870
Good job on the texture/materials
>>6831886
>Trying to get back into drawing after I quit back in 2021
Hey, me too! Try doing more Vilppu.
>>6831894
Nice

[Anonymous No.6831961]

>>6831960
>Can’t tell what this is. An elbow and forearm?
its a thumb LMAO

[Anonymous No.6831965]

>>6831941
Zapata spent years and years at Art Center drawing from life.

[Anonymous No.6831971]

>>6831965
Is that all you think he did at the time? Is that all that he attributes his ability to? It's definitely not what he teaches either.

[Anonymous No.6831981]

>>6831971
I'm just telling you where you learn light and shadow, and it's not by making it up out of your head. You learn it through observation. Same way you learned anatomy, perspective, form, clothing, animals, or literally anything else.

Sure, draw out of your head to practice and substantiate what you learned, but looking at your work, you have nothing in your head at all

[Anonymous No.6831986]

>>6831981
>looking at your work, you have nothing in your head at all
damn some else is arguing for me and im catching strays lmao
im >>6831608, >>6831971 is not me

[Anonymous No.6832022]

Keys to drawing - pepper

I feel like I'd do well to practice rendering separately. When I draw something I always feel "yeah, I'd wanna obsessively render this if it was just a bit better, but I don't feel like polishing a turd".

[Anonymous No.6832038]

>>6831596
Nice anon. I love to draw horses too. I own 3 horses yet I still can't properly draw them, only the symbols. It's weird. Same with humans, you see them everyday but you still end up symbol drawing, apparently we don't have true images saved in our heads, only the ideas.

[Anonymous No.6832041]

>>6831046
DO NOT READ KEYS TO DRAWING

Read the Art and Science of drawing by brent eviston. It can't get easier, and it's a modern book, not boomer stuff from keys to drawing or fun with a pencil.

I can also recommend his video course.

After you did all the exercises in his book, I would start with a pure figure drawing book either vilppu or hampton

[Anonymous No.6832061]

20min, that's it for this week, I'm depleted. Taking tomorrow to recharge and meditate on the next six days.

[Anonymous No.6832081]

>>6831921

[Anonymous No.6832143]

>>6832041
this anon is correct, the book goes straight to the root of the problem of most begs without wasting their time

[Anonymous No.6832217]

>>6831909
Show me

[Anonymous No.6832257]

Hi guys, not sure if i post this into a right section. But i have a friend who is doing stupid videos and think it is an ‘ART’. In this one he is drawing some bullshit - How to quickly draw a simple picture
https://youtu.be/aUmaPuWKSOg

Like doing some other weird shit in his videos on this channel

What do you think?

[Anonymous No.6832263]

>>6832041
Genuinely PYW. Not in a disrespectful way I just want to see if this is a waste of my time or not. Bonus points if you have an old picture of how you drew beforehand next to a new one

[Anonymous No.6832267]

>>6832257
Many autistic people need an outlet, let him pollute the web.

[Anonymous No.6832273]

>>6832038
Post your horsies I'll draw them

[Anonymous No.6832296]

Sketch wip

[Anonymous No.6832336]

>>6832041
>calls ellipses ovals
worthless book

[Anonymous No.6832378]

>>6830789
what artists should i study to further hone this style i'm trying to go for
i already pull refs from a lot of capcom art and some manga

[Anonymous No.6832388]

>>6832378
SoftDon / DONDRRR for sure.

[Anonymous No.6832466]

[Anonymous No.6832531]

>>6832081
This looks much better, thanks! Planning to draw a similar pic so I'll use this to help a bit with proportions.

[Anonymous No.6832545]

>>6832466
use harder edge brush

[Anonymous No.6832553]

>>6832466
I'd suggest you to paint on another color than the purest white.

[Anonymous No.6832555]

I won’t be drawing today, either. Because that’s what this board is all about. Since you’re all retarded.
It is funny how you faggots keep accusing me of being a troll. None of you bothered to encourage my art, though. You just get bitchy when someone reminds you of how worthless you are.

[Anonymous No.6832556]

Do not feed ^

[Anonymous No.6832557]

>>6832555
Nigga if you give up drawing because of this board you're retarded

[Anonymous No.6832559]

>>6832557
Can you not fucking read? > >>6832556
You're enabling retardation.

[Anonymous No.6832622]

[Anonymous No.6832636]

Fixed a bit

[Anonymous No.6832639]

Need some feedback on >>6830873

[Anonymous No.6832662]

[Anonymous No.6832667]

>>6832662
No amount of shading will help fix symbol drawing. Proko, for all his issues, can teach you to draw eyes in the style you seem to do.

Also unless that's Owen Wilson, that nose is facing the wrong way

[Anonymous No.6832669]

I like the sketchy look it got, but I know it's a crutch. The brush I used for coloring works nice if I'm not wanting to spend time being accurate - polishing turds takes more time that it is worth.
I should not go hard with black for shading, it does indeed give the dirty look.

[Anonymous No.6832685]

>>6832669
I tried to figure out your boxes anon, but I cant get it to work. Whats your reference photo?

[Anonymous No.6832691]

>>6831532
Kept working on it, any critiques?

[Anonymous No.6832693]

[Anonymous No.6832694]

>>6832685
>reference photo
Pretty much imagination + help of pic related I found on Gelbooru to have a general idea of the pose. Don't look for any sensible construction. I'm bad at searching for useful refs.

[Anonymous No.6832698]

Trying to finish something more complete for once, decently happy but not sure about the lighting

[Anonymous No.6832702]

>>6832694
+ some random pics for the feet, but it was after the deed was done and I didn't feel like redrawing them.

[Anonymous No.6832709]

>>6832694
Yeah so that's where the problem inlies. You cant have the butt in that pose from this position. Also the arms look too small. But yeah, dont redo it, just move on to the next one

[Anonymous No.6832713]

[Anonymous No.6832718]

>>6832709
I really should start using actual photos. Problem is that it's harder to find a suitable one, so I get lazy.
Kinda wanted the arm to be covered by the boobs, but I probably screwed up drawing the part by the hand and implied it to be way too thin.
With butt, if you mean the second buttock, I thought raising a leg would raise it enough to be visible, but apparently it isn't the case.

Thanks for the crit!

[Anonymous No.6832734]

>>6832713
which is it

[Anonymous No.6832735]

>>6832734
both are 10 min, 20 together

[Anonymous No.6832738]

>>6831398
Check out BhaalBuddy, you might like his stuff.

[Anonymous No.6832747]

>>6832296
Really like your stuff but I've noticed your necks are off. Oddly thicc. Or something. Idk.

>>6832388
I thought Don died?

[Anonymous No.6832754]

>>6832747
>I thought Don died?
I don't even know what his big drama was about.

[Anonymous No.6832776]

>>6831381
Lost settings to the old brush so had to make a new one. This time I saved it :^)
This shit took embarrassingly long.

>>6831504
I'm on my FUCKING KNEES. Just you wait 10 years and I'll catch up.

>>6831960
Jealous of how many you pump out. Can really feel the overarching line of action whilst not compromising on the gesture.

[Anonymous No.6832779]

>>6832776
>I'm on my FUCKING KNEES. Just you wait 10 years and I'll catch up.
Well, that's how I feel when I look at yours.

[Anonymous No.6832780]

>>6832545
>>6832553
thanks

[Anonymous No.6832805]

Drawing trad with pencil and paper is so comfy bros

[not guy No.6832807]

>Android update
>phone camera starts tracking faces in drawings

I hate the antichrist

[Anonymous No.6832817]

>>6832807
Forearms usually aren't thicker than the leg

[Anonymous No.6832875]

>>6832817
Beat me to it. This guy skips leg day, every day

[Anonymous No.6832877]

Repaint

[Anonymous No.6832909]

Sup beg. Even drawing such simple objects like a couple of wooden planks and few wheels connected with rope is quite a challenge. It is good practice all in all. Individually the pieces are "okay", but the way how i merged it all into 1 canvas it is a tragedy.

>>6832807
Soul. Minus points for trannism: i cannot tell if its a thot or a dude
>>6832805
i have opposite experience. Paper and nice ink pen is good. But pencil is way too scratchy for my taste + it makes your whole hand gray and smudges like crazy
>>6832698
this could outright be artwork for the old games from 90ties. very cool
>>6832662
better than the previous attempt. have you considered upgrading your tool kit with a brush and some sort of wash or water colors? so you dont die while trying to crosshatch so large areas of paper
>>6832466
put the eyes a litle closer to each other
>>6832061
i like it. simple yet shows booba, shades, perspective, whole fucking background. Simple and effective
>>6832022
that is very beg pepper, but passing grade. keep going!
>>6831945
it is called foreshortening and yes, it is hard because you have to draw objects from angle you arent used to seeing. Simple way is to have good reference and realize you are dealing with perspective. Other way is to study figure drawing books (vilpu, loomis, bridgman) which teach you simplified bodies in form of boxes / cylinders which are infinitely easier to foreshorten
>>6831914
beg
>>6831894
she needs rape correction
>>6831870
INT + booba
>>6831802
drapery + boots are very bad, your shading is appealing but it shows you are guessing anatomy. use reference so you dont have to guess and be confident. the hands are very weird looking
>>6831710
i like it all. Good job except the lack of shading making it flat on many places
>>6831695
nothing i can crab which couldnt be excused as "style". thumbs up
>>6831640
It is turbo busy. Looks like CD cover of some punk rock band. I kneel

[Anonymous No.6832917]

>>6830789
I've picked and dropped drawing a few times from high school to the beginning of college but had some issues later life leading to me throwing away EVERYTHING I made over the years. I haven't draw in years and now at 27 I feel retarded trying to pick up a pencil for a simple 3/4 profile face. I don't know where to even start and I'm not even sure I was good to begin with - is it worth starting this late?
Also, how can I improve my creativity?

[Anonymous No.6832916]

>>6830789
I've picked and dropped drawing a few times from high school to the beginning of college but had some issues later life leading to me throwing away EVERYTHING I made over the years. I haven't draw in years and now at 27 I feel retarded trying to pick up a pencil for a simple 3/4 profile face. I don't know where to even start and I'm not even sure I was good to begin with - is it worth starting this late?
Also, how can I improve my creativity?

[Anonymous No.6832922]

COPY BRIDGMAN 20 TIMES

https://youtu.be/M46plNiZReM?t=218

[Anonymous No.6832924]

>>6832909

[Anonymous No.6832947]

1980's candid photos.

[Anonymous No.6832948]

Veronique.

[Anonymous No.6832953]

Betty, wtf

[Anonymous No.6832957]

>>6832947
LOL two arms for the middle chick, this is great.

[Anonymous No.6832959]

>>6832877
Original / ref?

[Anonymous No.6832972]

Doing a master study on a Pako illustration, but I have a question about studying the hair
since there's no real "construction" with the hair, is just following the contours and trying to understand the "flow" of the hair all there is to studying it?

also give critique on my proportion/form, Day 17 of learning
drawing is far from finished but I need to get this hair question figured out before I continue

[Anonymous No.6832975]

>>6832972
>master study
>anime

[Anonymous No.6832985]

>>6832972
You can find books just on manga hair. Most teachers suggest structuring it in clumps and only depicting strands as a secondary measure.

[Anonymous No.6833004]

Some gestures …plus a chunky cat girl purely from imagination without reference of any kind. Gotta work the imagination muscle sometimes, right? Got the idea to attempt it from >>6832669, so thanks for inspiring me to leave my comfort zone.


>>6832776
>Can really feel the overarching line of action whilst not compromising on the gesture.
Oh my, thank you!
>>6832296
Kek, I would read this. Also, you’re making immense progress!
>>6832662
Are you doing okay, Anon?
>>6832713
Very clean without feeling sterile. Keep it up!
>>6832877
Cool!
>>6832698
That’s metal as fuck
>>6832917
Lol I’m 28, think it’s worth starting this late?
>>6832948
The second panel looks like she’s sucking his lips into her mouth as though she were trying to eat them. The lips in the first panel are far superior. Otherwise, this is great.
>>6832953
Yeah, wtf Betty
>>6832972
I still have to learn how to draw hair too. Your study looks like you’re doing what you should be doing, so good job! Your accuracy is good enough and you’re not symbol drawing, so you know how to see somewhat, which is better than most at day 17. That’s very important, because step 0 is being able to draw what you actually see instead of what you think you see. If you feel like you need more help with that, read Keys To Drawing, or Drawing On The Right Side of the Brain, or go through Brent Eviction’s beginner course. Some of your drawing is a little flat. Look at her sleeves and cuffs, for example. I recommend you learn to think in terms of spheres and cylinders rather than circles and rectangles. Go through the Vilppu Drawing Manual and/or How To Draw Comics The Marvel Way. They’ll teach you the basics of gesture and figure construction/how to draw in 3d. Keep going! You’re definitely gonna make it. Again, good job, Anon.

[Anonymous No.6833006]

>>6832948
>>6832953
Love me some archie
>>6833004
this anon is right about the second panel

[Anonymous No.6833013]

day 53

>>6832909
its not really about foreshortening, it's form obscuring one another that I find difficult

[Anonymous No.6833027]

>>6833004
>The second panel looks like she’s sucking his lips
yeah never ink with a rollerball, the ink also bled on that corner.

>>6833006
>Love me some archie
If you want to redraw Archie, consider that a full page would be about 17x12" during the Silver Age, give or take a half inch. So each individual panel should be around 5.5" in height. That will make drawing Archie, Betty, Veronica, Jughead, that much more fluid.

Some other artists like Carl Barks used boards that were up to 20x30", but that's a lesson for another time.

[Anonymous No.6833030]

>>6833013
Nice shape design on the shadows but those les seem a bit too short, especially the weight bearing leg

[Anonymous No.6833037]

>>6833004
>>6832917
Why hello there fellow boomers!

Creativity usually comes when you're in a good mood. You can also try microdosing shrooms or something.

[Anonymous No.6833038]

>>6833027
No kidding? I would guess much easier on the wrists. I remember going to a Disney museum and seeing how large the pages were there, but they weren't no damn 5 feet

[Anonymous No.6833047]

>>6833038
>I remember going to a Disney museum and seeing how large the pages were there, but they weren't no damn 5 feet

[Anonymous No.6833060]

>>6833030
idk, where did i go wrong?

[Anonymous No.6833064]

>>6833060
Look at the negative space triangle between the two feet, it was actually the perspective sorry.

[Anonymous No.6833069]

>>6833064
It’s subtle, you left more space between the front foot and hand to compensate

[Anonymous No.6833073]

>>6833069
It’s a bit beside the point, since your focus seems to be on values here

[Anonymous No.6833076]

warming up with some bridgman arms

[Anonymous No.6833087]

>>6831960
thank you for the compliment, im like 8/10 happy with the final product
>>6832909
i know its busy, i just like drawing and painting lots and lots. thank you for the compliment

[Anonymous No.6833110]

>>6832776
is this in krita? if so can u please send brush? :D

[Anonymous No.6833113]

Does anybody know how to preserve pixel art resolution when importing pixel art into a higher resolution canvas? Picrel should have sharp as hell edges on everything but the resolution got fucked

[Anonymous No.6833116]

>>6832953
>>6833076
Thanks I needed this ref.

[Anonymous No.6833118]

>>6833116
Now draw Sonic waiting in bed.

[Anonymous No.6833123]

>>6833116
>>6832896

[Anonymous No.6833129]

>>6833123
Synchronicity. She's cute.

>>6833116
Had to lower the elbow and smooth some edges.

[Anonymous No.6833130]

>>6833123
yeah the thing with this pose is that the leg is too short and so you have to widen the panties to ridiculous porportions

[Anonymous No.6833132]

>>6833130
I think I'll just change where the side of the pantsu is. Also had to lower the elbow and smooth some edges out.

[Anonymous No.6833137]

>>6833130
I mean not yours but the original template.

[Anonymous No.6833205]

>>6833113
forgot to mention this is csp

[Anonymous No.6833213]

I'm doing a study of kinu nishimura art style

[Anonymous No.6833225]

>>6832388
i already follow him on twitter, and i was sort of asking in the vein of industry artists. but i'll take what i can get ig.
got any other recs?

[Anonymous No.6833228]

>>6830789
I know its 2 poses and only faces, but these are the poses i struggle with the most

is this good enough quality to make a comic or graphic novel? what needs to be worked on? i think i mess up the most on proportions and specifically eyes at any angle more extreme than 2/3 angles

[Anonymous No.6833230]

>look up Ipad bro price
>1k for a 12 inch shitty computer
????
my gaming PC costs less than that what the fuck I can't believe apple fellers actually buy this shit

[Anonymous No.6833244]

can wacom tablets just lock to a window instead of being writing on the entire desktop screen?

[Anonymous No.6833246]

>>6833244
you can't lock to a window but you can lock it to a portion of the screen

[Anonymous No.6833249]

>>6833244
Go into Wacom settings, select screen portion, drag size to just one screen

Otherwise, just don't draw or hold the pen when you switch to a different window?

[Anonymous No.6833285]

>>6833123
Delicious
>>6833228
That's a very broad question. You can do a comic will less skill, as long as you are consistent. Heads are the easiest part, lets see how it looks on a body
>>6833213
Looks fine

[Anonymous No.6833287]

Always feels good to go back to an old pic, redoing it, then seeing the (little) bit of progress made.

[Anonymous No.6833298]

Some bridgies
>>6833213
Sick brah
>>6833076
Based fellow bridgbro, those arms are looking thick, solid, tight
>>6833037
Creativity is actually connectivity. Novel connections and combinations that, when combined, mutate and take on a life of their own. Like a sperm and egg cell fusing to create something new. It’s not appearing out of nothing. A jazz riff still uses the same 12 notes as every other bit of western music. It’s the combination that’s unique. /blogpost
>>6833118
Kek
>>6833228
I think you are symbol drawing, and don’t know how to see yet. The first step to being able to draw — before how to hold a pencil, make lines, fell the form — is to learn how to see. Step zero is being able to draw what you actually see and not what your brain thinks it sees. I recommend Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain, or Keys to Drawing, or Brent Eviston’s beginner course. Those will teach you to see. Then you can do the Villa Drawing Method or Drawabox or whatever your lil heart desires.
>good enough for a comic
As far as that goes, the main thing in a comic is the story, look at ONE’s manga. Absolute beg art, but he has two things going for him:
1. Story
2. SOVL
The most important thing is the story and characters. The art is secondary. In fact, there are rumors of books that apparently don’t even have pictures at all.
So the answer to that question is yes and no.
>is this good enough for a comic with a damn good story and characters, where the art isn’t the point?
Yes. It’s better than ONE could do when he started, and maybe even better than he can do now.
>is this good enough for a graphic novel where the art has to carry the project?
No.
>>6833287
Good on you for putting in the effort. Comparing yourself to your past instead of to others is fucking based as hell. I recommend you follow the advice I gave to >>6833228 as well. It’ll be cool to see the updated version in a couple months or so with even more improvements. Keep it up, fren. GMI

[Anonymous No.6833311]

Did this study a couple of days ago, any critiques?

[Anonymous No.6833327]

>>6833004
>thanks for inspiring me to leave my comfort zone.
Glad I could help.

[Anonymous No.6833381]

>>6833285
>Lets see how it looks on a body
Rough sketch concept art for an orc character from an old project, dont suffer with bodies all too much

[Anonymous No.6833384]

>>6833298
>I think you are symbol drawing
Usually only on the eye further away from the camera, considering I've been drawing for some 8 years, just very spaced in between these last 2, I doubt I need to >read the sticky again, just shake off rust and get back into the motions, practicing my flaws.
Also I've read and studied those books multiple times.

[Anonymous No.6833388]

>>6833381
>>6833384
>Photos didn't post for either one
This is about to be annoying, photo for >>6833298

[Anonymous No.6833390]

>>6831960
Who u used as ref for these gestures?

[Anonymous No.6833391]

>>6833381
Couldn't find the orc in my files again, here's a redrawing I did a few months ago of a page I drew years ago instead

[Anonymous No.6833393]

Had a go at these.

[Anonymous No.6833407]

>>6833393
pay more attention to proportions

[Anonymous No.6833522]

>>6833110
It's just the default chalk brush I tweaked a bit to suit my pressure preferences. It's quite freeing to just dick around in the settings menu and just see what each wacky option does to your brush.

[Anonymous No.6833582]

Permabeginner here, I seem to struggle with rendering. My blending always looks watery, I can't really describe it well.

[Anonymous No.6833621]

>>6833582
Less is more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSeA1xEaV6I

[Anonymous No.6833627]

>>6833004
>Your accuracy is good enough and you’re not symbol drawing, so you know how to see somewhat
this is a big compliment, thank you. I'm glad i'm starting to get over that hurdle

I just started the line art of the drawing today, I know it's just a copy but i'm really happy with how it's turning out so far, especially with me only being on Day 18 of learning

also I know it's probably silly to worry about this early on in my drawing lifespan, but is it weird that sometimes I worry if me doing copies like this isn't actually making me improve at drawing, just at copying from other people? I know a lot of big and successful artists say copying is one of the best tools to learn, but it still feels kind of...dirty? wrong?

[Anonymous No.6833632]

I find this jagged, graffiti esque lines method of drawing to be quite fun. I've seen it before but I don't know the name of it. Stylistically I feel it's not what I want though. It's just fun. Middle pic is referenced.
https://pin.it/54FZEhF

[Anonymous No.6833651]

>>6833582
>>6833621
What that anon said, but keep drawing and practicing and you'll get there. You can also try rendering more fun things than just grayscale prisms so that you don't lose motivation.

[Anonymous No.6833652]

>>6833627
there's no successful artist that got to where they are now without copying or using references. that's literally how you learn

[Anonymous No.6833700]

>>6833632
Same anon here. Am I doing these too fast? I feel somewhat good about this but also unsatisfied. I feel like I do them too quickly but I also feel like it's really the best I can do or that I feel aimless on what to do? I feel like when drawing this I started off stylized but tried to shade in a more realistic manner which makes it look a bit odd or contrasting. Used a blending stick which I'm still learning how to use.
Some parts look alright with how I did it... but other parts look completely confused on where the lighting is exactly coming from. I feel like I wasn't sure how to do it.
Critique it I guess or suggest the steps I should take?
Reference used: https://pin.it/12ivhqw

[Anonymous No.6833707]

>>6830789
How do I improve with faces? I've drawn maybe two ok faces in all my time of using references, but most of the time they come out as weird potato looking messes. I don't understand what I'm doing wrong.
Like, look at this, this is just a travesty.

[Anonymous No.6833721]

>>6833225
Sorry, I don't really follow artists, I just have a big folder of refs, but this dude usually signs his stuff so I remembered.

[Anonymous No.6833722]

>>6833230
>Anon figures it out

[Anonymous No.6833724]

>>6833651
Whoever did the bottom one can really squint their eyes good.

[Anonymous No.6833728]

>>6833652
I don't know much about art history, but even the older more established artists did what I'm doing?

[Anonymous No.6833734]

>>6833732
>>6833732

new
>>6833732

[Anonymous No.6833777]

>>6833298
>In fact, there are rumors of books that apparently don’t even have pictures at all.
I've heard the legends before... but I never thought they were true ?

[Anonymous No.6833778]

>>6833707
The one on the right is good, what tools are you using to get this silverpoint style effect, or does it come from trained knowledge? Do you look at Master's art work frequently?

[Anonymous No.6833783]

>>6833778
nvrmind, just realised that's your ref, but who did it?

[Anonymous No.6833816]

>>6833783
It's from the Vilppu Drawing Manual