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/beg/ & /int/ - Beginner and Intermediate Thread Anonymous Mon Sep 4 15:19:06 2023 No.6827342 [Reply] [Original]

If you are a /beg/inner or /int/ermediate in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
Use this thread instead of making new threads or post in the drawthread with fundamental exercises.

>READ THE STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
Old: http://www.squidoo.com/how-to-draw-learn
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
>TRY TO BE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK.
When giving feedback, avoid vague "advice" - point what's wrong and try to give the anon you're quoting a clear direction
to improve their art (study heads < watch THIS VIDEO about head structure, read THIS SECTION of THIS ARTIST'S BOOK, etc).
You, feedback seeking anon, should also try to be clear and concise when asking for critique/help.
When posting your artwork, say what you want help with, and what's your goal with the study/artwork.

previous >>6825824

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 15:23:03 2023 No.6827347 "howies" lol I like that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 15:30:20 2023 No.6827352 >>6827342 >How anon BTFO

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 15:31:39 2023 No.6827354 File: 28 KB, 1000x1000, Illustration11 (22).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i made this. i can actually do these i think

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 15:33:43 2023 No.6827357 Remember anons, don't feed.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 15:43:31 2023 No.6827365 File: 846 KB, 1488x2266, Giantfuckhugeass.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I changed a few things from the ref, should I continue with this? What would you fix to make the new pose work.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 15:46:02 2023 No.6827368 >>6827365 I don't like the tangent the asscheeks create with the back of the box. Make it hang over the box a tiny bit, it'll make the ass seem even bigger. Don't be a bitch, draw the folds. Also, >filename

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 15:48:13 2023 No.6827371 >>6827365 You made it have that cardboard cutout look.

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Anonymous Mon Sep 4 15:54:40 2023 No.6827375
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Hello years, I have spent about 3 days in which I find myself aimlessly as to what to study to fulfill what I want to learn.
I want to study body construction and anatomy more, but I can't find a book in E-hentai that convinces me, maybe I don't search enough so I just end up studying something on Pinterest (although I notice those references are somewhat poorly done) any advice to be able to continue with what i want to learn

Should I take reference photos of people?
I attach my latest study of Miguel Ohara's gesticulation

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 16:23:33 2023 No.6827411 >>6827354 Good job anon, now draw literally anything else.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 16:28:29 2023 No.6827415 File: 1.59 MB, 2336x3352, Ryuuko loomis.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is this how you're supposed to adapt the loomis method to fit stylized faces? I've watched a few guides and read the book a little and this is the best i could do

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 16:34:27 2023 No.6827424 >>6827342 finally a good op image

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 16:45:27 2023 No.6827431 I didn’t draw yesterday and I won’t be drawing today either. That’s what you people encouraged me to do.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 16:48:07 2023 No.6827434 Do NOT feed. You must endure.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 17:07:02 2023 No.6827462 >>6827415 I mean sure, looks like it roughly fits. But does this really seem like a sensible approach to you? Do you think anyone at trigger thought about the roomis method while doing any of their animations? I doubt it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 17:16:18 2023 No.6827473 File: 657 KB, 1488x2266, IMG_0126.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6827371 As in not 3d? Does this help

>>	Fudgey Mon Sep 4 17:18:39 2023 No.6827476 File: 66 KB, 1280x1280, 1679366404782685.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6827347 Newfag here, what is a howie

Anonymous Mon Sep 4 17:22:18 2023 No.6827483
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>>6827462
Then what is the right approach then?!

People here just say "le roomis" and it seems like their brains shuts off

How does anyone get ANY advice from this place at all?

This place is either people whining about AI or mumbling some retarded meme for 900th time

Anonymous Mon Sep 4 17:27:12 2023 No.6827490

>>6827483
I like Anon, if you don't mind, I'll take your studies to base myself on what I want to do, one question I suppose that each horizontal line is to know where the chin, nose, eyes are, but what is the last horizontal line on the top for? ? to identify the forehead?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 17:30:38 2023 No.6827497 >>6827490 NTA but it's the hairline.

Anonymous Mon Sep 4 17:34:47 2023 No.6827499
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>>6827490
The topmost one is to identify the hairline

If you want to try and use the loomis method I recommend at least skimming through some of these videos

When it comes to very stylized and expressive styles I noticed that the measurements tend to change a lot more (mouth wide open...)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i6JDwEwXJI&pp=ygUSRGF2aWQgZmluY2ggbG9vbWlz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC2ZppKHCqU&pp=ygUbbG9vbWlzIG1ldGhvZCBkcmF3aW5nIGhlYWRz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWCxBU5Xnec&pp=ygUndW5yYXZlbGluZyB0aGUgc2VjcmV0cyBvZiBsb29taXMgbWV0aG9k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0shyTrz5iM&pp=ygUndW5yYXZlbGluZyB0aGUgc2VjcmV0cyBvZiBsb29taXMgbWV0aG9k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWEKKwKZtWU&pp=ygUaaGlkZSBjaGFubmVsIGhlYWQgZHJhd2luZyA%3D

God bless you Anon. I wish you good luck on your journey.
Because this place fucking sucks

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 17:38:13 2023 No.6827503 >>6827483 see the answer from last thread >>6826659

Anonymous Mon Sep 4 17:49:01 2023 No.6827518
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>>6827503
yeah I get that
but that only really applies to moe heads or something like VERY stylized

If you try that with something with just a little bit more anatomy based(like pic), that approach collapses on itself

And also. most people here wouldn't piss in your mouth if you were dying of thirst if you told them you copy anime.

So that's also something that it's impossible to know if it's good or not based on what people here say

Them there's ALL the books that half of the people here recommend (Loomis, Vilppu, Hampton) they all use construction too

Them you go through them, you show your studies, and they tell you,you shouldn't do that

Has ANYONE actually got something useful from this place at all?

Man I'm so tired

Anonymous Mon Sep 4 17:49:34 2023 No.6827521
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>>6827499
thanks anon, actually i posted my male face studies above, but when i try to study female faces i end up doing them worse since i want to use a more "asian" style for girls and more detailed for men.
I publish my last study of the female face, I still haven't finished what I'm doing right now, so I can't post the most recent

Anonymous Mon Sep 4 18:00:22 2023 No.6827538
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>>6827342
just finished up this one, for some folks doing a soul eater storytime on /a/. painting it in watercolors now to share with them when the last volume dumps in a few days

Anonymous Mon Sep 4 18:03:49 2023 No.6827548

>>6827518
anon, the only way to learn to draw anime heads is to copy them from other artists, over and over again. Go to /asg/ and read what they have in their sticky. There is no shortcut, because anime heads are an artificial symbol. What you see is what you need to draw

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 18:10:49 2023 No.6827566 File: 2.05 MB, 4624x2604, 20230904_123835.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] A schizo art server! https://discord.gg/4CeZEtA5

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 18:25:11 2023 No.6827590 File: 296 KB, 709x1080, proportions.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6827365 Oh fuck, can you post the ref please? Also you're not really looking at your reference enough.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 18:29:32 2023 No.6827603 >>6827483 >How does anyone get ANY advice from this place at all? By asking the right questions.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 18:31:21 2023 No.6827608 File: 310 KB, 1000x1000, Lola The Apprentice Witch.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] how can i make good looking doodles better? does anyone know? should i just keep studying basics or is it something that will just click eventually?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 18:33:59 2023 No.6827613 >>6827608 Have you tried doing master studies of great doodles? Mileage is the key though. Doodle in any spare moments.

Anonymous Mon Sep 4 18:36:20 2023 No.6827621
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>>6827613
I mean im just kinda baffle how some people can just easily make aesthetic stuff like this with few lines.

Its something that i want to do too. just dont know how. I think you are right tho, its probably just experience and repetition.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 18:51:33 2023 No.6827639 File: 754 KB, 1532x2048, IMG_0120.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6827590 Yea I wanted to change the pose to make her straddle , here you go. This tumblr is great for practicing drawing monster asses

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 18:59:02 2023 No.6827646 File: 26 KB, 450x500, 1687819026680381.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6827639

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 19:13:28 2023 No.6827662 File: 813 KB, 1668x1667, IMG_1493.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Having trouble with my rendering. I feel like it needs to be harsher or something. Thoughts?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 19:21:14 2023 No.6827671 File: 782 KB, 1632x2496, Jessie.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6827621 Good sketches and doodles are endgame, so yeah mileage. I can't wait for the day when my quick sketches are good enough to share as if they're finished work

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 19:25:50 2023 No.6827674 Are you supposed to draw shapes or forms in order to draw?

Anonymous Mon Sep 4 19:29:19 2023 No.6827682
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Tips, books, or tutorials on adding details to paintings? I never feel like I know what to do after “blocking in” the colors. For example I would like to further separate the leaves on the tree in the foreground from leaves in the other trees. Would I do this by adding shadow to the leaves on the left or making the closer leaves more defined? It just seems a little flat to me right now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 19:29:32 2023 No.6827683 >>6827674 Forms are just shapes in the right configuration.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 19:30:27 2023 No.6827684 >>6827674 Nah, shapes and forms are a noob trap. Only draw points and line segments.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 19:31:33 2023 No.6827687 >>6827682 https://www.youtube.com/@IanRobertsMasteringComposition/videos

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 19:33:10 2023 No.6827690 >>6827687 Thank you. This is exactly the kind of stuff I was looking for.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 19:35:40 2023 No.6827695 The only things that matter to an artwork >perspective >composition >contrast >volumes >storytelling All of this can easily be practiced by drawing boxes and using a bit of immagantion.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 19:37:40 2023 No.6827699 >>6827354 You fucked up. Redraw it.

Anonymous Mon Sep 4 19:49:07 2023 No.6827718
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I made a slight update to something I posted last thread. While I'm sure there are more technical issues (which you can point out if you like), I feel like the adjustments I made, made it feel like a more complete piece. I wanted a certain style, and I feel like I managed to hit it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 19:52:39 2023 No.6827726 >>6827699 Thanks anon i'll do another 3 years of boxes

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 19:58:43 2023 No.6827737 HOW DO I REVERT THIS ANDROID CLIP STUDIO UPDATE ITS SO BAD

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 19:59:26 2023 No.6827739 >>6827726 Don't bitch at me, retard, you were the one who failed. Doesn't matter if it's three or thirty, do them properly or don't show up. An anon beat this into me years ago, and now it's my turn to do the same for you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 20:01:24 2023 No.6827745 >>6827695 >storytelling what

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 20:04:28 2023 No.6827751 >>6827431 based, same

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 20:06:27 2023 No.6827755 File: 194 KB, 640x969, 4uxl3eygpf871.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6827745 Your drawings and designs should convey a story to capture the viewers imagination and interest.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 20:21:22 2023 No.6827776 File: 3 KB, 400x400, tegaki.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6827755 I understand now! So this is an endless story!

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 20:30:50 2023 No.6827789 Does anyone have advice, an article, or a video of good ergonomics for drawing on a screen tablet? All the things I found are mainly talking about drawing on a screenless tablet. I need to fix mine before my shoulder explodes

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 20:36:56 2023 No.6827797 >>6827739 I'm not bitching, anon, i'm being genuine. I just gotta practice my boxes more.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 20:37:13 2023 No.6827798 >>6827789 The answer is already in your heart and wallet :)

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 20:38:21 2023 No.6827799 >>6827798 I already have a drawing tablet I just wanna know how I can draw on it without my shoulder hurting because I appear to be doing it wrong

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 20:38:59 2023 No.6827803 >>6827789 Have tablet flat on the table in front of you, loosen your ape grip on the stylus, look up regular computer ergonomics.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 20:39:41 2023 No.6827804 >>6827799 >I already have a drawing tablet Hint: >All the things I found are mainly talking about drawing on a screenless tablet

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 20:41:13 2023 No.6827806 >>6827804 Okay maybe I'm retarded then, I've had it propped up too high on the stand from what it seems. I love you anon <3 wagmi

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 20:42:17 2023 No.6827809 >>6827803 nvm I cant read. You're on your own.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 20:44:55 2023 No.6827816 >>6827809 what

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 20:46:53 2023 No.6827820 >>6827816 replied to myself. assumed op used screenless.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 21:01:44 2023 No.6827839 >>6827806 Oh no sweetie, your problems go far beyond how you prop it up since you haven't been able to figure it out I'll tell you, dump the screen tablet and buy a screenless :)

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 21:25:19 2023 No.6827872 >>6827518 If you want to learn to draw like the guy in your pic, draw from real life. It's 90% of what he does for practice.

Anonymous Mon Sep 4 21:28:43 2023 No.6827879
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A lot of the artists I take inspo from use these little lines all over their sketches, like this piece for example and for the life of me I can't find what they're called let alone study how and when to use them
Are they meant to indicate a stretch of skin/fabric or is it just an indication of flow and/or volume?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 21:30:34 2023 No.6827882 >>6827879 It's for explaining form.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 21:30:57 2023 No.6827884 >>6827879 clearly for both just give it a try and draw them where it feels right. dont think too hard about it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 21:35:35 2023 No.6827893 >>6827882 >>6827884 Yeah I tend to overthink specific things like this a lot in art, thanks for the answer If I understand what you guys are saying I should use them when two forms meet or one overlaps another, or during squashing and stretching yeah?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 21:37:04 2023 No.6827898 File: 163 KB, 1050x699, 90.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I should buy a ruler someday

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 21:42:00 2023 No.6827912 File: 151 KB, 960x1280, photo_2023-09-04_17-41-30.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] playing with extreme proportions

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 21:47:39 2023 No.6827921 File: 269 KB, 1229x1628, 20230904_174134.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] A Furry Is (Still)born. Actually I like the Great Mouse Detective.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 22:02:32 2023 No.6827937 What sort of individual is a good fit for sad puppy palace?

Anonymous Mon Sep 4 22:03:06 2023 No.6827939

>>6827893
You should basically use them where you would put darker values if you were using modeling tone to describe form. Basically it’s modeling tone that uses very fine, subtle hatching lines instead of actual value/tone. It’s a shorthand for shadow. The direction of the lines can additionally be used to go over the form like a cross contour, make mini rhythm lines, emulate wrinkles/stretch in fabric, etc. you usually want them to appear as running along on the surface of the form you’re describing to showing the cross contour, and not just as flat hatching.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 22:36:07 2023 No.6827984 reposting because I posted in an old thread

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 22:37:42 2023 No.6827986 File: 94 KB, 1924x1360, #8.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm going through Hampton's Analytical Figure Drawing. Currently doing the assignment for week 8 (arms). Can I get some feedback on a couple of exercises I've done today?

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>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 22:38:39 2023 No.6827989 >>6827975 4 month guy is improving

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 22:39:24 2023 No.6827990 File: 82 KB, 454x452, imagem_2023-09-04_193916904.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6827984 forgot pic

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 22:45:27 2023 No.6828006 >>6827988 >>6827986 Go study how the peck continues into the deltoid.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 22:53:39 2023 No.6828014 It's joever. Ai chads won..they fucking won.

Anonymous Mon Sep 4 22:59:23 2023 No.6828019

>>6828014
Pretty much
>fanart can be done with AI because copyright is a joke
>commissions can be done with AI because copyright is a joke
>patreon can be done with AI because coomers will pay for anything they can jack to
>game art can be done with AI because you can paint over it to get copyrights

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 23:17:21 2023 No.6828041 >>6827990 Looks weird. Something about the eyes.

Anonymous Mon Sep 4 23:17:52 2023 No.6828042
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day 50
its been too long since I drew something from imagination (like a few days)
The blog is coming tomorrow guys what should my @ be

>>6827639
i think i have couvid
>>6828019
and yet no one does it, huh
>>6827483
you gotta feel the form
>>6827476
i think it's some new meme that one person is trying to force

Anonymous Mon Sep 4 23:19:00 2023 No.6828043
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>>6828014
Good on them I guess, it's not like I was getting paid for drawing myself and from what I've seen so are half the guys complaining on twitter. Sucks for the other half.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 23:22:46 2023 No.6828048 File: 495 KB, 961x996, imagem_2023-09-04_202236707.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6828041 welp

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 23:25:36 2023 No.6828053 File: 90 KB, 1001x823, FueskjjX0AgWog0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6827342 Just saw my work got featured on the image again thank you tee hee (bottom right)

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 23:28:06 2023 No.6828059 File: 68 KB, 1146x1800, git.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Finally pushed through and rendered out a study. From a b+w photo so colors are improvised. What's the weakest point here?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 23:31:43 2023 No.6828065 >>6828019 >fanart can be done with AI because copyright is a joke literally free money atm

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 23:33:05 2023 No.6828067 File: 1.14 MB, 2250x2368, IMG_20230904_192817_DRO_1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Day 4 of getting back into drawing. Used a gym pic as reference. Please critique.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 23:35:24 2023 No.6828069 >>6828067 do more OHP and deadlifts >>6827662 Assuming that's the moon behind her, it could just use some emphasis of the primary light source. lit from above currently.

Anonymous Mon Sep 4 23:36:59 2023 No.6828070

>>6827483
>>6827518
try to understand a human head first. Anime is just as "3d" as real heads if you understand where they are coming from. I don't necessarily recommend any "methods" like loomis, just try to construct the human head yourself. Then move onto anime.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 23:37:10 2023 No.6828071 >>6828043 I was and it sucks

Anonymous Mon Sep 4 23:41:08 2023 No.6828074
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YOU'RE CLOSER THAN YOU THINK
THE DEVIL IS TRYING TO GET YOU TO STOP DRAWING
HOLD ON! HOLD ON!

CRAZY MEANS YOU CAN SEE THINGS THAT OTHER PEOPLE CAN'T AND IF YOU'RE NOT CRAZY YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO SUCCEED

SPEND YOURSELF IN A WORTHY CAUSE!

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 00:17:55 2023 No.6828113
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Sup beg. The book suggests to use modern tools and simply place basic shapes in sketchup and then draw on top of it. I guess it beats perspective grid. It is something i though about myself: sculpt the face or bodies of your game characters so you keep consistency that way no matter what angle or pose.

>>6828067
kinda beg, keep drawing. weakest parts are the fingers. and you are coward that you cropped the pic just above pepe. pepe holds massive amount of art potential
>>6828059
the shades on legs and arms are kinda clunky and breaking forms
>>6828048
did you draw this? i kneel
>>6827990
very western take on female face. i like it!
>>6827975
damn that is cool and it isnt even finished yet
>>6827921
soul overdose. i kneel
>>6827898
should put some tulip in front of her as well for extra depth. well done nazi thot
>>6827834
the drapery is very weak compared to the rest. also his haircut implies his skull is flat
>>6827737
https://apkpure.com/clip-studio-paint/jp.co.celsys.clipstudiopaint.googleplay/versions
>>6827674
you kinda want mix of both. forms only result in stiff diagrams while shapes can get ridiculously inaccurate over time
>>6827662
there is basically no range of values. first do tonal bar exercise
https://archive.org/details/Keys_to_Drawing/page/60
and then do whole chapter about light
https://archive.org/details/Keys_to_Drawing/page/102
>>6827621
begs need 4 hours and 4 000 strokes to draw a face
pro needs 4 seconds and 4 strokes
>>6827538
that is super busy picture, but after good coloring it will probably be glorious
>>6827375
any particular reason why are you limiting yourself to ehentai? they dont have ALL books after all. All books are on websites like annas-archive.org

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 00:24:10 2023 No.6828116 File: 37 KB, 403x534, 1693763732296590.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6828113 >ignored by my boy Pawell

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 00:41:02 2023 No.6828137 File: 1.91 MB, 1468x3718, 20230904_203821.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 00:41:36 2023 No.6828139 File: 995 KB, 2400x1600, 20230904.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Yesterday, 5min each

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 00:41:58 2023 No.6828141 File: 1.56 MB, 2250x3080, IMG_20230904_204016_DRO_1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6828113 Pepe just for you, my friend.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 00:42:07 2023 No.6828142 File: 172 KB, 800x800, 202300904.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Yesterday, 1H

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 00:55:07 2023 No.6828162 File: 60 KB, 1334x639, 8min.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Thoughts on this 8 min gestures?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 01:03:41 2023 No.6828174 >>6827476 It's from the comic with the guy wanting to pet a dog but not knowing how and asking the lady it's funny someone post it please

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 01:06:01 2023 No.6828177 >>6828113 But why a new drawing app?

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 01:15:05 2023 No.6828190
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>>6828177
i even replied to you in my grand crab paint off. pic related. imagine there are anons on this very board who use lagging piece of shit which you have to pay for every year and they dont even consider there might be something better
>>6828141
pepe symbol drawed, read keys to drawing lol
>>6828137
i love this style, it is like you are sculpting the forms. saved
>>6828116
sorry anon. it is not possible (text length limit) nor practical to reply to everybody. sometimes you just have to draw without (You)

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 01:16:44 2023 No.6828193 >>6828190 Whoops, my bad. Didn't see the (you). Keep up the good work! You are an inspiration that I don't need a yearly subscription to draw well

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 01:24:25 2023 No.6828203 >>6828113 haha holy shit you haven't improved at all

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 01:26:57 2023 No.6828208
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I just learned about Arkhouse and found his art really captivating, does anyone know how this sort of style is achieved? My first thought was to do a large gradient then put detail on top.
But how do you get the melted look like in the big white patch? Do you need a certain style of brush?

Also, I know what you're thinking but this image is from 2018.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 01:29:37 2023 No.6828211 File: 1.43 MB, 4034x3934, GridArt_20230904_212642544.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] taken me way too long just to get this much done

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 01:42:50 2023 No.6828229 File: 89 KB, 1440x1469, Snapchat-1626610200.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] When very new and studying perspective, should i try to find my vanishing point after drawing and then correct, or begin from an established vanishing point?

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 01:48:34 2023 No.6828237
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I'm convinced that /beg/ artists should spend more time drawing from reference than anything else. I got serious about drawing about 2 years ago, and I've made more progress in the past few months drawing from reference than I did in the preceding year and some change where I most did doodles from imagination.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 01:56:54 2023 No.6828248 >>6828237 Nah, ignore every artist telling people who are starting out to always use refs

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 02:03:08 2023 No.6828255
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I had fun with this life drawing session today. Ended up getting ambitious to see if I could push the pose a bit farther. I'll probably try to break the poses even more next session.

>>6828162
Finding how lines/masses connect from and to one another is one thing that can help your gestures capture the flow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA7Naf0RF4M
Watch how Glen here ties down this drawing of Tarzan. Don't go as fast as he does but observe how he's drawing through the forms and creating shapes that have direction. The shape of your calves are going in a good direction in terms of shape. The figure on the right has the stretched side sharing some angles a bit to closely to the pinch. They're a bit too similar. You can simplify the torso even more if you find yourself struggling. Practice accurate observation and look at your subject more.

>>6828137
Rad

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 02:04:06 2023 No.6828256 >>6828211 I feel you fellow dotard.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 02:22:13 2023 No.6828276 >>6828113 Kill yourself.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 02:39:27 2023 No.6828301 >>6828255 I really like these anon, your figures have good form. What is your drawing process for drawing your figures by the way?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 02:48:48 2023 No.6828318 >>6828256 feel like i need to draw sven after my last game. mid and off lost hard but i went 22/1 and carried us out of that shit show

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 02:52:00 2023 No.6828320 File: 341 KB, 852x723, image_2023-09-04_235148901.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6828318 Dont be discouraged.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 02:52:32 2023 No.6828321 >>6828043 Surely that wouldn't actually fire. Right?

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 02:54:34 2023 No.6828325

>decide to try krita
>hit e for erase like every other drawing program in existence
>it just uses the current brush as an erase tool
>cool but like, i want an actual erase tool
>can't find it
>google
>first result is a feature request from 2 years ago
>tldr; - lmao go fuck yourself, krita is better than every other tool and we don't need a stupid erase tool. just do this long convoluted process of using a python script and just manually change out the eraser tool every time you want it

god i hate open source devs.
>hurr no REAL use case
i draw with a semi-transparent pencil, i want to erase with a fully opaque eraser, i shouldn't need to go through 20 menus to set this up and then deal with the bullshit of having to switch keybinds every time i want to switch erasers.

fuck krita, going back to csp.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 03:00:56 2023 No.6828331 >>6828320 holy cute

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 03:04:44 2023 No.6828335 File: 22 KB, 291x244, erase.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6828325 >cool but like, i want an actual erase tool >can't find it How is it possible to be this retarded?

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 03:07:22 2023 No.6828341

>>6828335
It's a brush option that requires you to manually select it, as opposed to a hot key. there is no default set of eraser hotkeys to use and instead you need to manually set a hotkey, using a different script, then rebinding that script's hotkeys to that specific brush. and if you want to change erasers, you need to go through the process of rebinding that script to a different eraser.

as opposed to every other program in existence that has an eraser as it's own tool with its own presets and different "brushes" that will be remember when you switch back.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 03:22:13 2023 No.6828354 >>6828341 You can actually set brushes to hot keys in krita through a script that comes included with it, just look it up

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 03:24:22 2023 No.6828356 >>6828341 whoops nevermind misread your post

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 03:26:21 2023 No.6828357 File: 19 KB, 335x755, man.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i drew a man

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 03:32:13 2023 No.6828362 >>6828357 Shinji isn't a man.

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 03:37:02 2023 No.6828368
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>>6828341
You can just right click and select whatever eraser tool you want from the pop-up palette.
And you can easily set 10 brushes you use in the "Ten brushes" script, set whatever tool you want, then change the keybinds too. And you can configure it so it goes back and forth between the tool you used and the ones you keybinded.

I understand if you thought the vector layer tools weren't as powerful as they are in clip, but making a fuss about how its hard to right click to bring up a pop-up to select your eraser or setting up keybinds that you already do in any other software is just dumb. It's like saying that clip is bad because you might have to move your UI around to make it more comfortable for you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 03:38:35 2023 No.6828370 >>6828357 looks cool but he just reminds me of the western porn game protag

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 03:51:28 2023 No.6828382

>>6828368
No, this is bad. This round about method has extremely limited functionality, for a tool that is one of the most simple and basic of all art tools.

There is absolutely no reason for an eraser to be this convoluted. Krita has to be designed by someone extremely brain damaged to think that’s acceptable.

Fucking flockdraw and mspaint can handle it better. Even gimp does.
And if the eraser tool is this fucked, like hell I’m going to sink any more time into that garbage program

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 03:59:09 2023 No.6828388 >>6828382 just use gimp

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 04:00:04 2023 No.6828389 File: 32 KB, 736x650, 39e132d7050226679d2b25952d762d68.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6828362 >>6828370 fine I'll change the hair I guess

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 04:27:09 2023 No.6828415 File: 702 KB, 2269x3694, 20230905_001925.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i dont have a pencil sharpener so i cant really do any fine detail (which is fine because i dont want to butcher her face) so ill just try doing sven now

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 04:39:13 2023 No.6828422 File: 2.09 MB, 3000x2000, test.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] idk, i should colorize it but too retarded to do it

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 04:48:57 2023 No.6828426 File: 1.53 MB, 2052x2654, 1693889269203.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] First time drawing with charcoal

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 04:49:50 2023 No.6828427 >>6828422 I smell figure drawing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 04:55:31 2023 No.6828430 >>6828427 nope, imagination, but i should try more exagerated poses

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 05:04:03 2023 No.6828442
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30s gestures
>>6827342
>made it into the OP
Oh my goodness me
>>6827473
Yep, much better. The overlapping forms and wrapping rolls of flesh show depth and volume better. I’d do more Vilppu and keep going. Grinding organic forms might help you as well. Keep it up!
>>6827538
There’s a lot going on and it looks fucking cool as fuck, but it’s kinda hard to read in its current state. Drawing Comics The Marvel Way has a bit on inking and making the subject clear, that might be helpful. Of course, coloring could do the trick. Overall impressive. I’m looking forward to seeing the final!
>>6827590
>>6827639
This speaks to me on a fundamental level.
>>6827621
Yeah I don’t know. It seems like youv’e gotta git gud at gesture and inking and internalize a lot of construction and shape language and have a good visual library to make aesthetic direct drawings look good. I’m guessing beautiful simple sketches are probably something developed at the advanced stage, like >>6827671 said.
>>6827662
You need stronger contrast in your values. Practice depicting form in monochrome. That more than anything else (apparently) is what good painting is about. Values.
>>6827718
You fixed the hand some, good job. Keep practicing, especially work on feeling the form.
>>6827755
I think this is the real red pill. The most important and hardest thing when it comes to art is appeal. I think that appeal basically is something like a combination of gesture and storytelling. Add in some SOVL (which is something like earnestness/enthusiasm/honest expressive effort) and you’re gonna make it regardless of all other fundies. The epitome of this is ONE.
>>6827898
I like this. Why do you need a ruler?
>>6827912
Your arms and thighs are symmetrical sausage shapes that go stiff and dead. Should be an easy fix for you though. Look up vilppu’s gesture lessons and also https://youtu.be/w47lF4uZXIo?si=f7HrzFi0OYtkKcH8&t=1478 and
https://youtu.be/MKi3-fe1GC4?si=7K8S0wb5ClaNz1Xx&t=138 in particular.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 05:30:44 2023 No.6828476 Am i correct in the understanding that being able to recreate what you see is the most basic, fundamental level of art?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 05:32:52 2023 No.6828478 >>6828382 >There is absolutely no reason for an eraser to be this convoluted Right clicking is hard? Pressing E is hard?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 05:45:14 2023 No.6828490 File: 312 KB, 519x812, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] latest werk

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 05:47:46 2023 No.6828493 >>6828476 yes, observational drawing is the absolute basic skill in art

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 06:27:25 2023 No.6828551 >>6828493 Why isn't this mentioned?

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 06:31:48 2023 No.6828555

More 30s gestures. I think it might be too fast desu.
>>6827921
Very clean, I like it.
>>6827975
Impressive.
>>6827986
>>6827988
Pay attention to how the delt’s heads interact with each other, and where/how they attach. Pay attention to the little triangular hollow between the pec, clavicle, and front delt.
>>6827990
I like the eyes. Her left eye (on our right) bight protrude a little far out from her face, maybe.
>>6828042
Good rendering, the proportions of the arm are off though, especially the forearm and wrist. That’s a cool-ass head and neck though.
>>6828048
Nice anatomy studies!
>>6828053
You deserve it, good job.
>>6828059
You need to study form and anatomy. Understanding how to depict form using tone/shadow will help you. Very ambitious; GMI.
>>6827834
Some forms are a bit flat (mostly neck/head/face) but this is overall pretty cool. Also, nice clouds!
>>6828067
Nose and eyes are symbol drawn. Read drawing on the right side of the brain. The nose also has perspective issues. WAGMI
>>6828074
Based
>>6828113
Man I need to add perspective to my grinding rotation.
>>6827674
Yes.
>>6828137
Fuckin’ love this, very cool
>>6828139
Good job, building a habit of mapping the shadow shapes will serve you VERY well going forward
>>6828142
You need a broader value range. Darker shadow, lighter light, with a clearer separation. Right now it’s all too similar. You didn’t draw any of the light that’s hitting her. Keep going!
>>6828162
Looks like you’re adding the head and limbs now, good job!
>>6828211
Vilppu
>>6828229
Probably depends. Ask Powell.
>>6828237
Agreed
>>6828255
Beautiful! Expressive and gestural and appealing with solid structure. I’m mirin hard.
>>6828357
Good drapery and hands and face and… good job.
>>6828415
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWUYuDlXUoY
>>6828422
OUH!! Kinda feels like the perspective on the right’s eyes doesn’t match her face. Also her right (on our left) forearm overlapping her bicep seems weird.
>>6828426
Lovely!

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 06:35:18 2023 No.6828564
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First time ever painting something, the end result isn't extraordinarily bad for me, outside of the weird looking back / spine that looks off compared to the rest of her body, I should've made an undersketch instead of directly painting.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 06:40:30 2023 No.6828573 File: 1.42 MB, 2156x2000, WET FLOOR2_re.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] how does this look? I tried to do some more extreme poses but I think I fucked up the perspective

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 06:40:37 2023 No.6828574 >>6828564 oh actually i'm noticing some pretty major mistakes, the shadow on the breast makes it look flat and because of the shading on the nipple, it looks extremely weird.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 06:43:43 2023 No.6828576 >>6828573 idk if the cause is perspective, or the angle he's drawn, but dude on the left looks flat, reminds me of the weird billboarding effect old fps games had when you look at them from above or under

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 06:47:00 2023 No.6828583
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>>6828555
>>6828442
Kek. Here they are. Trying to feel the flow.gesture/rhythm, and get the total quickly, attempting to get a more holistic sense of the pose/figure. Also just plain mileage. Kinda seems too fast to get much out of, but I’m honestly not sure.
>>6828490
Beautiful subtle rendering.
>>6828476
Yes. More specifically, it’s about the ability to see accurately and not symbol draw. To be able to draw what you see and get the proportions basically right. (Autisticslly precise sight-size atelier style measuring and photocopying is not what we’re talking about, though.) You can't draw if you can’t see.
>>6828551
Whenever anyone recommends to do measuring and accuracy practice, that’s what we’re talking about. Whenever anyone says to stop symbol drawing, that’s what we’re talking about. Whenever anyone recommends the Brent Eviston beginner course, or Drawing On The Right Side Of The Brain, or Keys To Drawing, that’s what we’re talking about.
>>6828564
>>6828574
Yeah. There are issues. But at least you can see it. It’s hard to paint something if you can’t draw it.
>>6828573
Looks good! But that’s not how you hold a gun. He should be gripping it with his thumb as well.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 06:48:14 2023 No.6828587 >>6828583 If that's what you're talking about, why aren't you saying that?

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 06:57:35 2023 No.6828603

>>6828587
maybe autism, but it probably just doesn’t occur to most anons to spell it out every single time. Pawell and others are recommending those resources in every thread, multiple times. I often do tell people that first you have to learn how to see properly and that learning to see is basically step zero.

Going forward, I’ll try to be more explicit when I make such recommendations. Thanks for pointing that out.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 07:02:37 2023 No.6828610 >>6828583 >He should be gripping it with his thumb as well. He's supposed to be pulling back the hammer on the revolver. I'm not very good at drawing hands or guns, and especially not hands holding guns, so that probably doesn't look very clear.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 07:04:12 2023 No.6828611 >>6828610 Just use reference and watch people performing the action you’re trying to draw.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 07:07:00 2023 No.6828616 >>6828573 it is a bit flat, not really feeling the form (maybe make a mockup in a 3d program to see how it should actually look like) but the graphic design makes up for it. extremely cool anon

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 07:28:38 2023 No.6828641 >>6828555 >the proportions of the arm are off though, especially the forearm and wrist oh yeah, you're right

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 08:04:42 2023 No.6828663 How are you supposed to clear enough space on your desk for a tablet?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 08:08:02 2023 No.6828664 >practicing drawing humans more >accidentally end up drawing indian joker despite the ref not looking like him Any other drawings for this feel?

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Anonymous Tue Sep 5 08:22:17 2023 No.6828677
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>>6828555
>Vilppu
whats this mean anon?
>>6828555
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWUYuDlXUoY
thanks, this is about as sharp as its gotten for me with just like a shitty knife

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 08:23:20 2023 No.6828678 >>6828074 bejita-anon... i can only do boxes... how am i gonna do furries, i'm not close to it at all.

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 08:39:54 2023 No.6828689
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>>6828301
I start at either the head, ribcage or pelvis. Either an oval, cylinder or shape which I then give some cross-contours. Sometimes I'll make them into boxes or give them defined x, y and z axis If I need to figure it out a bit. I then find the center line and find the next mass and do the same. Sometimes I don't need to draw the actual form like in the bottom left because I have a pretty good idea of what I'm looking at. I mostly did these by keeping straight and curves in mind when making my decisions. Bottom right is a half decent example, notice how the bottom of her torso can be reduced to a subtle curve and the top likewise reduce to 2 straights if you look pass what I put on top. Other than that I'm tracking proportional relationships and landmarks. The process is to establish a shape then elaborate on it later. The process isn't any different from how any artist will approach drawing a figure really. There's some deviation, but ultimately they're all based on the same principles.

>>6828555
>mirin
Thanks Anon! One thing I'll recommend you to do 2 things. Increase your timer. Enough so that you're not wasting time on details but not so little that you can't properly learn the concepts. Reduce the timer when you really want to test what sticks. Try finding lines from the top of the pose to the bottom (or left to right depending on the pose) and make those lines go as far as you can. They don't even necessarily have to be on the figure, but do have to relate back to it.. There is no right answer. Just remember that you are composing the figure not just copying.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 08:50:14 2023 No.6828699 >>6828689 I don't get it

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 09:07:34 2023 No.6828715
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>>6828699
Here's some Hampton talking about it. These lines direct the flow of the masses. The center line is a rhythm in of itself that you can carry through to the head, legs and arms. Rhythm is about balancing in and out, in and out. Curve and straight. Rhythm in music is the distance between the absence of sound and and then it's appearance. This extend to drawing concepts or really most things in general. When you breathe, you can only inhale so much till you need to inevitably exhale. Same goes for lines. They can only curve so much either till they make a shape or change direction. Matessi defines it as force in his book, Speed refers to it as rhythm, Vilppu as flow. Bridgman even talks about it. It's that important of a concept,

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 09:10:39 2023 No.6828717

>>6828677
Glen Vilppu is a drawing instructor that is known for his figure drawing workshops. If you've seen people say "feel the form" they're quoting him. He comes from an animation background so he's more focused on intuition and capturing the feel and emotional content of a figure than trying to replecate the reference exactly. Your drawing is a good example of capturing the outline of a figure, but you can see that it's a bit stiff. Starting with a gesture that captures the feel and weight of a pose and then building that up with 3D forms tends to give a better representation of the source than trying to be perfectly accurate in one pass. If you look up Vilppu Drawing Manual you'll find his book, but he does have the assumption that you're staring with some basic understanding of the fundamentals.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 10:08:46 2023 No.6828782 File: 1.24 MB, 3148x2986, 20230905_060412.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] this mf came out looking like a fat elephant shrew >>6828717 thanks ill check him out

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 10:55:52 2023 No.6828843 File: 54 KB, 398x514, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6828715 >those sloppy ass lines Wait, /ic/ told me I should be able to draw perfect straight lines and this dude can't even do curves? Something ain't adding up here

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 11:22:10 2023 No.6828877
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Can't remember the last time I drew with a pencil. A pitcher with tea in it is not simple to draw, I have no idea how to translate the different coloured liquid into one single monochrome space.

Anyway, it's not worth polishing this turd, I think I'll just work more on having the right lines first before diving into rendering autism

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 11:24:22 2023 No.6828880

>>6828382
>There is absolutely no reason for an eraser to be this convoluted.
It's not, if you don't overthink it.
>pick brush
>press E
>brush now erases instead of drawing
Literally one keypress.
What you're actually upset about is that Krita does not, in its default configuration, replicate the exact functions you're used to from another program.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 11:38:54 2023 No.6828889 >>6828843 it's pre-sketch steps, why painstakingly make the lines perfect when you haven't even started drawing...?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 12:09:47 2023 No.6828902 File: 660 KB, 1830x789, a60-1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Damn I am now able to draw blocks but I can't accurately copy well nor draw fast. Just more practice?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 12:11:33 2023 No.6828905 >>6828877 still nice try!

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 13:02:22 2023 No.6828947

>>6828843
Lines should communicate what it is you're attempting to convey about the subject. Just because hampton didn't put down a perfectly curved and smooth line does not diminish what he has shown and written. His lines here still convey timing and rhythm into one another, in other words the lines do as much as they need to. He's illustrating a concept. He could do it with squiggly line quality for all I care. You don't need to have perfect, mechanical draftsmanship to make a compelling drawing/point. Shocking, I know.

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 13:10:52 2023 No.6828951

>>6828947
You should know better than to take such a definitive statement at face value in terms of what you should be capable of doing. The whole point is that you can make the line you intend to make with confidence and get close enough. If you want a perfectly straight line, use a ruler or the line tool.

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 13:33:58 2023 No.6828985

>>6828689
>Increase your timer. Enough so that you're not wasting time on details but not so little that you can't properly learn the concepts. Reduce the timer when you really want to test what sticks.
>Try finding lines from the top of the pose to the bottom (or left to right depending on the pose) and make those lines go as far as you can.
>Just remember that you are composing the figure not just copying.
Will do, thanks senpai!
>>6828715
Saved, thanks. What did you do to study appealing exaggeration/stylization of the figure? Copy your favorite coom art twice, or do you just have excellent taste and instinct?
>>6828877
Based still life tradchad. GMI. Keep going!
>>6828902
Yeah, basically. I’d also really look at what the anon I’ve quoted has been saying. Also this >>6828717. You want to not copy the silhouette of the figure, but to build it from the inside out, using rhythm and gesture to place the masses and forms of the body. These are really not that bad btw. You have a good understanding of foreshortening and some of the drawings of the kicking girl and the pole vaulter are pretty close to the ref. I think you need just a little more information about the actual process of figure drawing and you’ll be instantly a lot better. Good job.

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 13:41:47 2023 No.6828995
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Did project 1-A from keys to drawing. Feet!

I've mostly been drawing with ink these past few days so I decided to switch it up by using charcoal. Just having a stick of charcoal in my hand instantly makes me feel like an artist. Storing it without having it rub off on other stuff will be a pain though, I guess I'll need some fixative or hair spray.

Adding the flowers from the floor carpeting was kind of a mistake compositionally (they distract), but ドンマイ, it's a study!

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 14:27:15 2023 No.6829117

>practice drawing heads
>construction it is
>get some refs to copy
>draw that circle first
>...
>circle is fine if you look at head front the front
>from the profile it's a wider ellipse
Yeah, so it comes back to remembering where everything is. Cannot construct your way out of lacking visual library.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 14:42:55 2023 No.6829132 >>6829117 Or maybe I'm being retarded, now it seems to kinda fit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 14:44:06 2023 No.6829135 File: 22 KB, 443x251, 12ddcdd7e9e04ec5790744a13331024813a02ef4r1-443-251v2_uhq.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6828995 why you wearing socks? redo the exercise drawing some goddamn toes and post it

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 15:15:15 2023 No.6829177 File: 3.76 MB, 4500x3500, Round brush only FIN.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] First time posting here. Did me a round brush only practice (Sketch to render).

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 15:16:41 2023 No.6829181 File: 1.38 MB, 4500x3500, More round brush.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6829177 Also some more pract's with a bonus cube brush test.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 15:17:15 2023 No.6829183 File: 831 KB, 4500x3500, Cube brush pract.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6829181

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 15:23:22 2023 No.6829194
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>>6829183
1 more anatomy thingie as a extra bonus. I flip flop between digital paints, and inks. Pic rel has a ink brush I dont use any more. And I instead use a tech/fountain-like pen for details. And a micron-like pen for the outlines
>and additional details too.

Future anatomy studies will be constructed via bridgman.

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 16:09:33 2023 No.6829248

What method for drawing the hips works best for you?
No matter whether I use a box as the base or some sort of sphere I always seem to fuck them up.
Box is way easier to place accurately and move around in my head but goes to complete shit once I try to attach the legs, while the sphere is better for the form but is difficult to place properly.

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 16:25:56 2023 No.6829274
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>>6829248
The morpho books (specially the simplified forms one) suggest a variety of ways, each with its own pros and cons. Some people (i.e. Proko) like to use the Gottfried Bammes model (pic related) but I find it too complex for most of us.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 16:28:51 2023 No.6829276 File: 3.13 MB, 4000x1800, 16939312387768626220648771671968.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6829274 More Bammes

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 16:29:51 2023 No.6829278 File: 2.72 MB, 4000x3000, 16939313505195620266941014449262.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6829274

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 16:35:04 2023 No.6829287 You must cut out everything in your life that is not centered around drawing. CUT IT OUT!

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 16:35:46 2023 No.6829290

>>6828880
And then when you wanna go back to drawing you need to select the brush you were using before and press B~
While in any functional app you press B and you get the brush you were using before :O
>Four is a bigger number than two therefore my four action solution is superior to your two action solution!!

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 16:41:56 2023 No.6829294 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eayo0XXse_M craig mullins is live now on the collective podcast. missed the first 30 mins though damn. just thought I'd pop it here in-case one other anon is interested

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 16:43:22 2023 No.6829298 >>6829294 what, he hasn't had a tv since 1990? his kids grew up without one. this is the secret to how you get good...

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 16:48:28 2023 No.6829303 any ebook reccs on painting faces

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 16:49:50 2023 No.6829304 >>6829294 Thanks, anon.

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 16:54:45 2023 No.6829312

I used to be so talented at drawing and painting in high school. I have probably gone 5 years without doing anything and have pretty much lost all of my skills. anyone been through this have any advice to get back into it? should I just restart with the fundies ? any specific exercises to get back into the flow of things?

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 17:11:15 2023 No.6829342

>>6829312
I went through something like this. I got back my skills much faster than it took to gain them in the first place. I did fundies(lots of still life), master studies, and just made it a habit to draw everyday without fail, marked a x on a physical calendar, made sure to keep an unbroken streak of x's.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 18:02:24 2023 No.6829412 >>6828321 It would and, depending on the gun quality, may not even blow it up https://youtu.be/jtC9qzKcNJE?t=456 (timecode)

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 18:03:52 2023 No.6829415

I keep endlessly changing things in paintings without seeing if it gets better or not. Even with a mirrored image it doesnt work. Its like my brain is so used to the image it refuses to see the flaws. At the same time im afraid ill lose good parts if I change things, or that Ill end up redoing the entire image. Any good ways to deal with this?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 18:06:47 2023 No.6829418 >>6829415 Catch yourself and stop before it looses what it had.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 18:12:02 2023 No.6829425 >>6829418 >looses loses*

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 18:13:29 2023 No.6829426 File: 193 KB, 896x1280, IMG_4400.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I remade the Elf following the advice from the previous thread and i think it turned out okay, crit about the values pls

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 18:20:15 2023 No.6829437 >>6827797 Just shut the fuck up and draw some fucking boxes nigger. I am not gonna tell you what exactly you did wrong. Every normal human eye can see how wrong it looks.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 18:21:12 2023 No.6829439 >>6829290 >press E >brush now draws instead of erasing Bruh

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 18:26:24 2023 No.6829451 >>6829439 >Rather press double as many buttons. Bruh

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 18:26:53 2023 No.6829452 File: 2.08 MB, 1530x2040, IMG_20230905_202332.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] any1 knows how to improve my rendering style so it wont be a immediate giveaway im a fucking beg

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 18:31:07 2023 No.6829457 >>6829452 Just be more consistent. Avoid random squiggles for dark patches.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 18:32:15 2023 No.6829460 >>6829452 Try to render something simple at the beginning like an Apple or something like that and something that you like

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 18:34:17 2023 No.6829464
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Sketching from imagination on public transport. Ballpoint = fun as fuck.

I recommend sketching on the bus. You lose all control but its still fun. Also it saved me many times from going to sleep with the shame of being a nodraw.

>>6829439
>rub the rubber to the paper
>drawing is gone
fucking sorcery

>>6829177
based.

>>6828995
Based + SOVL + I kneel + cute. I like the flowers.

>>6828782
based.

>>6828142
keep em coming.

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 18:38:41 2023 No.6829468
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Sup beg, steal this tech from AutoCAD engineers and cut through stuff to show what is inside. Finally the book reminded me something new. It really pays off to go through multiple books on same subject. Also i used stormpaint 3P perspective assistant. It is almost as good as the one in krita, that is why its so accurate today.

>>6829415
sounds like turd polishing. PYW
>>6829312
>didnt PYW
seriously, how do you imagine anyone can point you in right direction when you dont post your work?
>>6829303
dunno about the painting stuff, but heads and portraits are common topic
>Loomis Drawing the Head and Hands
>Hogarth Drawing the Human Head
>Bridgman Heads Features and Faces
>Mau.Kun Yim Lessons in Masterful Portrait Drawing
>Civardi Drawing Portraits
>>6829177
welcome to the beg. i see you are already mogging like half of the posters from here. are you wannabe furry artist?
>>6828995
passing grade though the feet on right is very... beg
>>6828902
pretty much yes. just draw (more)
>>6828573
superb design, very cool perspective. i kneel
>>6828490
i am not a fan of desaturated color palette, but that is just my beg opinion. cool thot!
>>6828476
yes
>>6828229
there are multiple possible workflows considering perspective. i recc to simply pick some book about it and go page by page. Perspective made easy is very casual and cool book. Framed: Perspective is the best one, but it will take you a long time to go through it. Most practical approach is
>horizon
>am i looking down or up? 3P, otherwise 2P
>set VPs
>draw cubes or perspective grid or set up perspective guides in software
>draw rest of the owl
so for example in my pic related, left side with cut room i first draw the whole room as 1 big cube in 3PP. You can still see the thin construction lines of it. Then i slowly filled it with smaller and smaller boxes, turned off the guides and finished it
>>6828325
Dont ditch the app so fast over a small difference of workflow. It is experiment to possibly find something better.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 18:42:20 2023 No.6829474 I’m not drawing today.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 18:46:55 2023 No.6829478 >>6829468 thanks, i actually enjoy having anons like you doing these big comment dumps every thread they are very informative and sometimes funny, pls dont stop

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 18:49:48 2023 No.6829484
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did this for a friend collab
i got all the colors right and conveyed the idea well, but i feel like the quality of the image went down from the sketch. ill post the sketch after this
any tips as to why it feels bad? is it flat? what would be a better way to do this

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 18:50:19 2023 No.6829487 File: 207 KB, 800x800, collab plan.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6829484 sketch

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 18:55:31 2023 No.6829496 I swear there was someone doing crazy line work wit pencils and digital. WTF ever happened to them?

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 19:11:16 2023 No.6829519
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>>6829468
I appreciate the complement. Really love your pieces dude. Gave ya a follow earlier in the week.
>are you wannabe furry artist?
Been there, done that. But proper term is scalie. No neon wuff here. Not to mention I am doing much more sfw non furry stuff. Mainly spooky stuff, robot /mechanical, and fantasy, to actually post on (new) socials.
>Plus its the shit that I want to do.

And be constant in it. May open comms (sfw & nsfw) in the future for side incomes. But a patreon (tipjar style) may come first.

Got a new mail handler job that I've worked for 3 days in, so that'll be the main grind.
>Kinda part time, since its not a set schedule, and the last 2 day + today will be 4 hrs long. Actually planning on going for a mail carrier either for there, or UPS; since they got more of their shit together pay wise recently.

Hoping to do less static pieces. Pic rel is probably the more perspective heavy picture Ive done. Took weeks tho, due to losing previous job, and going too heavy with the process. Which is why I'm simplfying alot. Still experimenting, especially with the paints. But I mainly gonna stick with the round, square, or oddly textured opacity brushes I do regularly use.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 19:11:53 2023 No.6829521 File: 3.86 MB, 5850x3150, Arkelis-Request-SFW-NO-POST-LIGHTING.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6829519 >non post fx vers

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 19:15:48 2023 No.6829527 File: 3.78 MB, 1845x914, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6829521 Nother alien design of someones oc. Used with paints that have been long since discarded. But can replicate it with the brushes I do got tbqh.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 19:16:41 2023 No.6829529 File: 1.20 MB, 1488x2266, IMG_0136.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Can I get help with the hands? The thumbs are killing me

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 19:16:41 2023 No.6829530 File: 1.82 MB, 3500x4500, Fangs-Full.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6829527 >Recent, spooky cube brush work as a comparison for the prior pics.

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 19:23:14 2023 No.6829541

why is it when you get a /beg/ exercise to draw circles i can do them okay with pencil and paper but they are impossible on the screenless tablet? everything is slow and loose and slippery on the tablet in general, i can't draw on it at all, but i want to draw a lot on digital so i don't have to worry about wasting paper or buying more

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 19:23:44 2023 No.6829543

>>6829529
Sometimes the best way to show off a part of the body is to not show most of it. The hand is pointed toward the camera so the thumbs should be pointed toward the camera too, generally. As in, you'll have parts of the thumb overlapping with itself due to the perspective of the viewer to the subject. Rather than trying to show off the whole hand, you should focus more on what can or can't be shown and what feels like the most natural position for parts of a body to be in.

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 19:28:52 2023 No.6829552

>>6829541
Try putting a piece of paper over your tablet and drawing over it with the stylus. It could also just be stabilization on your tablet/drawing program. I'd fuck around with your stylus options either in your drawing program of choice or your settings for the tablet.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 19:30:25 2023 No.6829554 Does anyone know a good book or course that teaches the basics of industrial design techniques? From sketching to Rendering?

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 19:35:47 2023 No.6829562

>>6829554
nvm, just asked chatgpt
for anyone interested

- Sketching: The Basics by Koos Eissen
- SKETCHING Drawing Techniques for Product Designers by Koos Eissen
- Scott Robertson How to Draw & How to Render
- Drawing for Product Designers" by Kevin Henry

Seems most of them are free on pdfcoffee

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 19:36:35 2023 No.6829565 >>6829562 but did chatgpt post work?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 19:37:43 2023 No.6829566 File: 158 KB, 360x362, sttablbe difffon.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6829565

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 20:00:35 2023 No.6829595
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>>6829460
>>6829457
i actually find apples to be extremely difficult to draw to portray convincingly, but i spend much more time to render it nice and i still find it kind of shite

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 20:09:35 2023 No.6829601 File: 2.34 MB, 1530x2040, IMG_20230905_220838.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6829595

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 20:13:25 2023 No.6829606 File: 344 KB, 868x826, wb14.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 20:14:27 2023 No.6829607 >>6829606 Looks great, anon. Is the rightmost one from reference?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 20:18:27 2023 No.6829612 File: 633 KB, 700x1004, 24.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6829607 yep ''Shishunki no Obenkyou''

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 20:20:57 2023 No.6829617
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>bad day
>realize I actually have no idea what I'm doing
>my line control is terrible. I chickenscratch a lot
>construction? Sure, in next life
>I still need to memorize anatomy and my memory is shit
>Okayu
>I don't even know how to properly draw a head
>like, everything ends up misplaced
>also, how the hell I'm supposed to draw stuff like pelvis? it's all complicated as shit, refs barely help me understand anything
>catgirl
>my figures end up being stiff
>my coloring and shading are a joke
>I cannot eyeball proportions correctly
>I have to redraw everything constantly
>my recent work was bad, I wasted too much time on it
>and I don't have motivation to start next one
>fat sexy catgirl
>why I even bot-... what?
>a plump, sexy, submissive Japanese gamer catgirl
>...
>with her tits spilling over the bed she is lying on. Primed to kneading and hard fucking
>...
>come on
>I lack fundies
>and I lack fucks to give, start drawing

The work begins...

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 20:23:17 2023 No.6829621

>>6828985
>What did you do to study appealing exaggeration/stylization of the figure?
You draw from multiple sources. I copy from my favorite old masters and favorite contemporaries. I grab a bunch of art from different people then analyze/copy it. I then apply to the model and see what I've retained. Trying to push my understanding of any given concept in that session. In this case it was mostly straight to curves.

>>6829484
Your values on the character are mostly just too flat. They're identical to one another. I'm okay with the values of the scythe. Make his robe darker.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 20:38:48 2023 No.6829638 >>6829474 That's okay, more gainz for myself

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 20:48:22 2023 No.6829661 File: 1.28 MB, 667x949, ic 3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 20:49:25 2023 No.6829665
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>>6829135
it turned into a kind of monster's foot.

Also I guess I'm supposed to actually smudge this shit and use a kneaded eraser. I'll have to research this more if I eventually want to make more polished stuff

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 21:02:30 2023 No.6829705 File: 506 KB, 1662x2378, Untitled_Artwork-359.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Quick character design sketch of this idiot guy

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 21:08:55 2023 No.6829728 >>6829661 Is there a specific name for these kind of helmets? they look cool.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 21:16:23 2023 No.6829749 >>6829728 Murmillo gladiator helmet I think

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 21:17:41 2023 No.6829755 >>6829728 NTA but, https://www.thecollector.com/gladiator-helmets-types-characteristics/ that anons drawing seems to be the murmillo helm, which is the type of gladiator equivelent of generic mary sue anime protag

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 21:19:34 2023 No.6829759 >>6828237 It's true but begs don't want to listen

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 21:20:16 2023 No.6829761

>>6829621
Hm. l see. Kinda like Ben Franklin learning to write. Or like that video (I think) you posted from love life drawing where he did kind of an expose on that guy with the gorgeous gesture drawings.
>In this case it was mostly straight to curves.
I’m not sure what you mean by that. If you mean that you went right into drawing curves, or if you mean you drew straight lines and then balanced them with curved lines. I ask because I see mostly just curves. Btw you’re the neko anon who paints well and encourages accuracy and proportion, right? I appreciate all your help. You’re doing the board a great service. Your comment about gesture being the composition of a pose is an interesting one that I’m gonna contemplate and let fester for a while.
>>6829661
Borderline pro level. I think the base could be more… idk, better somehow. I thing the rendering of the base is slightly flat. Maybe. Maybe not. At first I didn’t think this was an original drawing from someone posting in /begint/. I wouldn’t at all be surprised to see this as an illustration in some book somewhere. Great job!
>>6829705
Idk what exactly you did differently with this one, but it’s more appealing and better than your previous efforts. The edge of his collar and where it’s interacting with his cape is weird. If that’s his collar, it’s drawn flat rather than wrapping around his neck/shoulders. I think your colors are better, and the face is more appealing. This is a noticeable improvement, and you should be proud.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 21:22:18 2023 No.6829769 >>6829761 >Borderline pro level. now ask that anon to draw a figure in perspective to check real quick kek

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 21:30:30 2023 No.6829784
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going to transition into drawing in digital from now on. still the same messy lines. think this is my last week of gestures before i pop off on anatomy and general proportions of the body without freestyling it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 21:32:48 2023 No.6829794 File: 2.42 MB, 3000x4000, IMG_20230903_175950.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How do I cope with lacking the talent/motivation/whatever you want to call it to ever become truly good?

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 21:41:10 2023 No.6829815
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>>6829761
The straights and curve are relative. Some are more obvious than others. A single line can stop curving and become a straight at some point like in the triceps of the far right figure in pic related. The video from love life drawing of simon luty puts it down pretty well.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 21:48:12 2023 No.6829824 >>6829794 Kill your ego. Quiet your mind. Draw freely. You already have something beautiful going on here.

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 21:48:44 2023 No.6829825
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>>6829794
Hit the gym, imposter syndrome is one of the many mental issues that can be cured with enough reps.

Why do you think every male artist is either buff as shit or a femboy with cat ears and a maid outfit who gets fucked stupid by the former.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 22:03:04 2023 No.6829844 >>6829825 There's plenty of fat fucks who are great artists

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 22:13:21 2023 No.6829851 >>6829761 Thank you for the compliments anon, and for pointing out the collar issue. Maybe my little study sketches I do in between drawings is finally paying off yahoo

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 00:00:03 2023 No.6829970 File: 137 KB, 1546x720, 20230905_194355.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6827921

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 00:01:29 2023 No.6829973 File: 233 KB, 1403x1217, 20230905_193950.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6829970 Mighty Mouse, slightly off model. Never saw it personally.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 00:45:57 2023 No.6830040 File: 486 KB, 1285x819, Knight2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Class doodle

Anonymous Wed Sep 6 00:47:35 2023 No.6830041

How do y'all practice mapping eyes to the head? I've given myself a headache at this point trying out Loomis, Teal Line Guy, and barque plates but holy shit having shit match up is such a guessing game and that's not even trying to have more varied shapes outside of generic western shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 00:53:16 2023 No.6830054 >>6830041 It's funnier seeing mismatched eyes

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 01:04:34 2023 No.6830077 File: 32 KB, 817x372, loomis.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6829970 Fellow cartoonist, you need loomis. It looks like you are copying stuff from an old "how to" book without understanding the fundies or shapes

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 01:09:08 2023 No.6830084 File: 28 KB, 1058x550, loomis.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6830041 That's exactly what loomis is for. Just use the 2 main lines. If you get thrown off, add more lines

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 01:11:25 2023 No.6830085 >>6830077 Those read much better, I agree. Piglet was lined up for 9 vertical cm. It should've been wire framed first in blue pencil tho, definitely.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 02:05:27 2023 No.6830162 File: 2.05 MB, 2048x2732, IMG_1998.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Quick sketch to work on face appeal

Anonymous Wed Sep 6 02:17:44 2023 No.6830180
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Twin peaks, the red room entrance in Gastonburry Grove, I still need to add the oil puddle and the grass.
Also need to decide if I'm going to show the jumping man or the curtains opening.

Should I destroy and burn it or finish it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 02:22:55 2023 No.6830187 >>6829661 Well done, bro.

Anonymous Wed Sep 6 02:33:27 2023 No.6830203
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day 51
Well i made it after all, there's the blog
I think I need a new breakthrough, I have to get high soon to get some schizo revelation

>>6830162
it does look appealing
>>6829705
im not sure what this character is supposed to be, not keen on this design, sis
>>6829194
you posted this in the redline thread arleady bro
>>6828573
it's a bid disorientating. like the wall of text, and the focal point of the image is basically empty space, and the harsh yellow draws the eyes away from the figures.. Like the figures itself are good though

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 02:38:14 2023 No.6830210 File: 38 KB, 640x640, 1d31a5b2110452bacf6a6b842ba9b73e.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6830203 It's an anime boy with animal ears and I am not your sis I have a penis.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 02:39:27 2023 No.6830211 >>6830210 >I am not your sis I have a penis. oh sorry, my mistake

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 02:41:04 2023 No.6830212 >>6830203 Also @markoh_art doesn't come up even on Google

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 02:45:52 2023 No.6830219 >>6830212 its a twitter @, it works for me

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 03:05:30 2023 No.6830242 do you ever get super frustrated while drawing and just want to tear apart your art supplies?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 03:08:12 2023 No.6830245 >>6830242 Yes especially the first year I spent drawing

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 03:21:14 2023 No.6830263 File: 151 KB, 416x889, Screenshot 2023-09-05 231944.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] tonights wip

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 03:24:00 2023 No.6830268 >>6830263 i wanna hug her

Anonymous Wed Sep 6 03:28:42 2023 No.6830272
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>>6830180
Here's another one of my painting's, you guys seem cringe and art without soul, it seems pointless with all this anime art, not that it needs to be realistic it absolutely doesn't, it just seems soulless, Terry Davis would not approve.

Anonymous Wed Sep 6 03:32:44 2023 No.6830275

>>6830203
>you posted this in the redline thread arleady bro
Oh wow, didnt expect crossovers. Just wanted to post the other content from the previous month here. Getting feedback and all that. Still need to do more full body/bridgmen practice. Works been "on call" with the post office. Hoping to met another supervisor to plan ahead, so I can plan ahead studies.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 03:33:47 2023 No.6830276 >>6830275 Well I guess there's no rule stopping you from reposting art

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 03:45:03 2023 No.6830286 >>6830263 lickable tummy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 03:46:35 2023 No.6830287 File: 39 KB, 906x872, image_2023-09-06_004603179.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] whats exactly wrong with her? It just doesnt look quite right. her shoulder stuff is just armor/shoulderpads.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 03:47:27 2023 No.6830288 File: 240 KB, 1194x664, imagem_2023-09-06_004659247.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] so here is a third attempt

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 03:48:35 2023 No.6830290 File: 66 KB, 349x339, imagem_2023-09-06_004826876.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6830288

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 03:50:58 2023 No.6830293 >>6830290 Reminds me of character portraits that are shown during tv sitcom intros. Can't tell if this is a Step-By-Step or Full House situation.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 03:51:22 2023 No.6830294 File: 637 KB, 1668x1668, LodgeOwl.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6830180 >>6830272 Here's a painting with more value then fucking anatomy correct anime drawing for people to jerk too. Why bother making it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 04:01:39 2023 No.6830300 File: 100 KB, 810x1080, DCD62319-2A8E-4B90-AE70-DA3D50A60412.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Figure paint

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 04:13:15 2023 No.6830311 >>6830180 >>6830294 I would try a Bob Ross video. He might help you blend some colors

Anonymous Wed Sep 6 04:26:31 2023 No.6830318

>>6830311
I'll try thanks, I'm still need to painting I did digital in the past but I hate the clean look, I admit my work isn't done correctly with vanishing points and anatomy isn't done good at all, I just mess around and go for feeling, Francis Bacon and David Lynch are my inspiration.
I love art but I have such a hard time sitting still and doing it the right way, I find it easier when I am insanely drunk, I kinda figured out blending this painting especially working on this canvas twice the size as my last ones, I have the hardest time with furniture and proper backgrounds

I need to learn backgrounds so I can do some more surreal paintings, I love the scenes of twin peaks the white horse in the Palmer House and the TV with static that gets broken in blue velvet, I'd like to do both on those on my remaining large canvases when I get a grasp on realism

Anonymous Wed Sep 6 04:31:12 2023 No.6830323

>>6830318
Im a huge lynch fan myself. I honestly never painted before, but funny enough I got drunk and did like 3 Bob Ross paintings. They were good enough will zero experience to make christmas gifts. I was going to keep painting, but I bought a tablet instead...I miss trad though. Anyway my point is, Ross was a great teacher, and I can see why he was on TV for so long. Also you get to listen to his sweet voice

Anonymous Wed Sep 6 04:40:04 2023 No.6830330
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How do you differentiate guy pants and girl pants? Like how big is the visual difference and how do you make it so that it doesn't look too bulky and diaper-y?
Also I know I'm skimping out on the shoes here sue me

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 04:46:52 2023 No.6830334 File: 626 KB, 1080x4320, cube rotation.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] A gift for my box-drawers, this took a little bit to figure out how to do. I have a huge PSD file with the full res, where should I upload it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 05:14:47 2023 No.6830354 File: 105 KB, 457x763, imagem_2023-09-06_021431600.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6830290

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 05:26:35 2023 No.6830361 >>6830330 Maybe just make the lines on the butt straighter, add some more wrinkles near the knees? Honestly for that position, almost any pants are going to be tight af and form fitting. Besides sweatpants

Anonymous Wed Sep 6 05:54:28 2023 No.6830378

>>6830361
I'm probably overthinking this but should there be a more visible bulge on a guy's pants? I heard that men and women have different crotch spaces to accommodate for the dick n' balls but is it something that you should worry much in your drawings?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 06:02:46 2023 No.6830382 File: 248 KB, 829x776, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Can someone redline the perspective and proportions on this head sketch? Is the far eye too visible?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 06:04:03 2023 No.6830384 >>6829825 How do I go about getting one of the latter?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 06:09:50 2023 No.6830390 Whats the opinion of Drawabox?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 06:10:18 2023 No.6830391 File: 24 KB, 484x353, code monkey lmao.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6830390

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 06:11:21 2023 No.6830393 >>6830391 >2017 Bro its been six years.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 06:17:38 2023 No.6830397 File: 398 KB, 800x1728, this is from december of 2022.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6830393 and he STILL sucks!

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 06:50:30 2023 No.6830434 File: 111 KB, 1335x952, Gestures.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 2 minutes each. I have never felt so demotivated in my life. NGMI?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 07:22:23 2023 No.6830454 File: 776 KB, 3000x3000, 1689078406731345.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] hoarse :D

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 07:39:32 2023 No.6830466 >>6830434 Stop doing timed gestures

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 07:56:26 2023 No.6830474 File: 276 KB, 528x742, wb23.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 08:01:39 2023 No.6830478 >>6830466 What am I supposed to do then? I just want to draw anime babes in proper proportions.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 08:02:29 2023 No.6830479 >>6830478 draw it until it's finished

Anonymous Wed Sep 6 08:07:33 2023 No.6830483
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>>6830478
How about don't do that and make something of artistic value not something a fat Asian wearing ahego cum stained outfit will dribble our yet another stain on his uniform. Why create something of no value I guess sexual value but that's not what art is for it's for women to do that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 08:09:14 2023 No.6830484 >>6830478 Do gestures that aren't timed. Copy poses from your favorite manga.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 08:30:00 2023 No.6830493 >>6830180 >>6830272 >>6830294 >asks for criticism/validation >calls everyone else cringe and soulless >says his painting have much more value if you know the answer then why are you asking

Anonymous Wed Sep 6 08:36:05 2023 No.6830494
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>>6830493
I don't know any answers and If an actual painter/ artist in the physical mediums wanted to tell me specifically what to change or to fix it I would, what I called cringe is literally porn artist drawing lewd shit for attention, it's just soulless and has no value to anyone but coomers, I don't think my art is perfect but I appreciate a very flawed painting even digital art if it's unique as long as the person tried to make something for themselves or to express themselves

I don't consider drawing porn as a form of artistic expression and consider it soulless, I'm sure some furry can draw better then me I just don't care because they are wasting time making drawings one would never show anyone unless they were horny, I'm not a puritan or religious it's just porn isn't art to me and I don't understand it being posted in a fucking art thread.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 08:37:32 2023 No.6830496 >>6830474 Not obese but I like that someone is drawing food

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 08:56:36 2023 No.6830509 File: 1.68 MB, 1240x1754, IMG_20230906_025120.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Wed Sep 6 08:57:18 2023 No.6830510
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>>6830494
i was going to ignore you as i thought youre just bait, but you really seem genuine in what you write and actually lost, so the reason why we're drawing the stuff we draw is not to show others or call it "art", but just to practice the draftsmanship, to get a better understanding of how things work and how to make them look good, and later apply them to whatever you want to show to people and whatever you think has meaning. there are too many stuff worth improving in your paintings to name, so im not going to because once youll get better youll understand it by yourself, all i can give you is this image and this pdf
https://archive.org/details/Keys_to_Drawing
good luck

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 10:29:23 2023 No.6830555 >>6830510 this picture is missing just one thing You still have to make sure everything you draw is a form, you have to do everything the image says, but you cant just slap down lines and blotches or else it wont look good, you have to feel the form

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 10:37:24 2023 No.6830561 File: 648 KB, 1000x1397, file078.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 10:38:51 2023 No.6830564 How can I see a figure as a volume/mass? I have strong habit of contour drawing but can't ditch this habit. Please give me help!

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 10:52:15 2023 No.6830575 >>6830564 Recognize the simple forms the figure is made up off.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 10:54:18 2023 No.6830577 >>6830494 >reverse image search turns up nothing I don't believe it. Post a picture with a timestamp or these aren't your work.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 10:58:06 2023 No.6830582 >>6830575 Thanks! Will try!

Anonymous Wed Sep 6 13:18:40 2023 No.6830686

>>6830510
id argue against this jpg
if you only drew with your eyes, then youd just be like "i see a red light next to a white wall, so the wall is red". but if you start to think about it, think about how light diffuses, how the light softens into the natural color of the wall, how the shade in the wall intermingles at any transition locations, then it starts to come together into something really nice.
the trick, however, isn't just thinking, but knowing "how" to think, knowing how to analyze a subject in a meaningful way so as to replicate it on canvas, and thats something thats either taught through mentorship (education) or self-taught with lots of practice

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 13:21:51 2023 No.6830689 >>6830510 that's a great way to make it impossible to learn to draw from imagination, mentally rotate references or change them in general

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 13:51:44 2023 No.6830704 >>6830689 it isn't learning to accurately recognize/reproduce angles and proportions in 2d will help later, after taking this information and mixing it with form/perspective knowledge

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 14:03:28 2023 No.6830718 File: 81 KB, 567x432, despair.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6830689

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 14:06:54 2023 No.6830723 >>6830686 what are you talking of

Anonymous Wed Sep 6 14:10:54 2023 No.6830726

>>6830704
what is never mentioned in these arguments is how frustrated you will feel when you want to modify your reference and how it will look like total dogshit compared with 1:1 thoughtless copying

>>6830718
I don't think this example is a good argument because in this case he obviously didn't teach the student the opposing edges of the cube should be parallel to each other and the student would be able to draw it even if the proportions or angle of the cube were different, making it also a creative rather than coordinate reproducing process and he would be able to instantly draw cubes from memory at any angle.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 14:22:57 2023 No.6830735 >>6830726 >how frustrated you will feel that's why it's recommended to start with easier subjects but that has nothing to do with the utility of being able to draw what you see

Anonymous Wed Sep 6 14:25:07 2023 No.6830739

>>6830510
>>6830555
>>6830686
>>6830689
>>6830704
Learning how to draw what you see is step zero. You will never be able to draw from imagination if you can’t see and study forms that make up what you’re trying to invent. If you can’t see whether something is foreshortened and by how much, you cannot understand how to represent it later. You’ve gotta see before you can draw. You don’t have to get really hyper accurate and measure everything you draw, but you’ve got to be able to see.

Anonymous Wed Sep 6 14:32:39 2023 No.6830745

>>6830735
>that's why it's recommended to start with easier subjects

I have seem people who draw photorealism who couldn't draw a noodle person from imagination

>>6830739
quite honestly this is my point and I don't think drawing a closeup mouth from upside down helps in that aspect

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 14:43:33 2023 No.6830748 >>6830745 because people have different goals, drawing from imagination/memory might not be theirs these are different skills, but the second pretty much relies on the first

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 15:19:04 2023 No.6830777 i wanna draw a chibi sven, hes such a good boy

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 15:38:16 2023 No.6830791 >>6830789 >>6830789 >>6830789 >>6830789 new slop >>6830789

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