/beg/ & /int/ - Beginner and Intermediate Thread

[Anonymous No.6825824]

If you are a /beg/inner or /int/ermediate in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
Use this thread instead of making new threads or post in the drawthread with fundamental exercises.

>READ THE STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
Old: http://www.squidoo.com/how-to-draw-learn
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
>TRY TO BE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK.
When giving feedback, avoid vague "advice" - point what's wrong and try to give the anon you're quoting a clear direction
to improve their art (study heads < watch THIS VIDEO about head structure, read THIS SECTION of THIS ARTIST'S BOOK, etc).
You, feedback seeking anon, should also try to be clear and concise when asking for critique/help.
When posting your artwork, say what you want help with, and what's your goal with the study/artwork.

previous >>6823346

[Anonymous No.6825827]

>>6825824
Today's daily

[Anonymous No.6825830]

>>6825824
bring back the OP that made cool images for fucks sake

[Anonymous No.6825833]

>>6825827
I didn't post the one with my time, this one was 55 minutes from reference

[Anonymous No.6825838]

HAYYAAAA

[Anonymous No.6825841]

Frog.

My goal was to draw a frog.

[Anonymous No.6825845]

>>6825841
>my goal was to draw a frog
you succeeded my friend

[Anonymous No.6825848]

Imagine learning to draw to...draw this..yikes!

[Anonymous No.6825850]

Imagine learning to draw to...draw this..yikes! Haha...

[Anonymous No.6825861]

>>6825850
I do want to draw tranimeslops though, it makes me happy.

[Anonymous No.6825863]

>>6825861
then do it and don't worry about what some crab thinks. there'll always be people who don't like your style or subject matter

[Anonymous No.6825865]

>>6825850
>yikes!
fuck off tranny at least learn to write/talk like an adult

[Anonymous No.6825867]

>>6825865
protip: plently of trooners like anime and were catalyzed into troonism through anime

[Anonymous No.6825868]

>>6825824

[Anonymous No.6825869]

just went rummaging in the cupboard for printer paper to draw on and found all my drawings from my numerous quickly-aborted attempts to learn to draw over the years

i assumed i would have filled like 10-20 pages but its more like 100. i sucked the whole time but i still like looking back at it, seeing what i tried to draw over the years, the doodles, the references for friends, characters from anime i was watching at the time, the 5 different attempts at the first few keys to drawing exercises for some reason, the drawabox pages, the blooks. it's a great trip down memory lane, and even though all the drawings are terrible i'm still sometimes impressed that i did them

anyway i've been back drawing again for a month, here's hoping i stick to it and gmi this time

[Anonymous No.6825870]

>>6825869
post them

[Anonymous No.6825877]

What are they, /beg/ ?

[Anonymous No.6825885]

>>6825877
1. Never listen to anyone before they post their work
2. Have fun

[Anonymous No.6825889]

>>6825885
No fun allowed

[Anonymous No.6825892]

>>6825877
This was an inspirational episode for me as a kid. Squidward tried to learn by studying, but he couldn't produce anything, while Spongebob the naturally gifted and talented breezed through.

Even then, artists knew you either had the gift or didn't.

[Anonymous No.6825904]

>>6825892
true

[Anonymous No.6825907]

>>6825892
No, it was meant to tell kids that there are no "rules" and if you stick to them you might end up like squidward. It's telling kids to just follow your gut in drawing and to be open minded when it comes to these "rules"

When spongebob abided the rules, his art became shit just like squidwards.

[Anonymous No.6825909]

>>6825907
>it was meant
According to whom? Was there an interview claiming the exact opposite of what the episode showed?

[Anonymous No.6825910]

I'm struggling with hair styles. Drawing/rendering them and coming up with non-generic designs. Copying a style from another character/artist for practice and experience is probably necessary, but unique styles are immediately recognizable and wont work for creating something original.

[Anonymous No.6825911]

>>6825909
Imagine getting filtered by an episode of spongebob

[Anonymous No.6825912]

>>6825911
Yeah, imagine being you. Sounds painful.

[Anonymous No.6825913]

>>6825909
This brainlet gave up and quit drawing because of spongebob

[Anonymous No.6825916]

>>6825913
>can't refute my post
>ad hominem
That cut too close huh?

[Anonymous No.6825917]

>>6825916
AND he takes it seriously.
We're pointing and laughing and you think this is a discussion.

[Anonymous No.6825918]

>>6825912
Do you really think a kid’s show would put out a message telling kids to give up if they don’t have talent? Or maybe you misinterpreted it.

[Anonymous No.6825923]

>>6825918
Do you really think that the episode showing the guy who studied failing, and the guy who didn't study succeeding, is anything other than a condemnation of the guy who studied and people who think like him?

[Anonymous No.6825925]

>>6825917
>I-im laughing at you!
Sure you are, buddy.

[Anonymous No.6825929]

>>6825923
The other anon already explained this to you dummy.

[Anonymous No.6825931]

>>6825929
I already refuted that explanation sweetie

[Anonymous No.6825932]

>>6825904
blog? esp. if there's more like this

[Anonymous No.6825938]

Would it be wise for a beginner to just practice facial expressions? I feel if I could make shitty doodles that atleast look emotive I could have motivation to push on.

[Anonymous No.6825939]

>>6825938
>Would it be wise for a beginner to just (draw the thing they have fun drawing so they don't burn out from endless studying)
I fuckin' wonder.

[Anonymous No.6825953]

>>6825904
how long

[Anonymous No.6825960]

>>6825932
no blog. Why do you need more of that ugly shit?

[Anonymous No.6825961]

Loomis? Haha, no I don't think so.

[Anonymous No.6825969]

Why does it always end up looking so unclean

[Anonymous No.6825970]

booba version of the elf that I posted in the last thread
>>6825877
draw and watch people drawing
don't fall for memes like draw from the shoulder, draw from real life first, drawing on the right side of the brain, aphantasia, asian genes, neuroplasticity, symbol drawing

[Anonymous No.6825973]

>>6825970
>watch people drawing
I don't like watching paint dry for a mediocre anime doodle.

[Anonymous No.6825985]

>get shit on left and right for my reference posting
>alright fuck it
>dont even bother to compile the previous threads works
>none of the niggers take up the mantle to post better ones
well fuck me i guess
have fun arguing about left vs right /pol/ shit for 35 posts straight, leading cleanly into discussing the concept of "talent" with the local shizo up until bump limit

[Anonymous No.6825987]

>>6825985
sneed

[Anonymous No.6825991]

>>6825985
I was sad when I didn't receive a yesdraw certification for my posts in the previous thread. Please don't let the shitposters get to you, Anon. A lot of people are counting on you!

[Anonymous No.6825999]

>>6825985
>post shit
>nobody cares
>bitch and leave
lol, good riddance

[Anonymous No.6826002]

>>6825985
The fact that people were upset means you were challenging them. Those who did their best to draw your reference surly appreciated the effort you put into providing them. The fact that trolls and thread derailers are out in full force simply means they were not up to the challenge and are having trouble coping with being filtered.

Please try to ignore posts that are inflammatory and ill intentioned.

[Anonymous No.6826009]

>>6825960
belly

[Anonymous No.6826015]

>>6826002
You know what they say about assuming...

[Anonymous No.6826017]

>>6825991
Get fucked asshole.
How about next time somebody tries to contribute to the thread you shit on the people that sabotage that effort?
But no, instead you sit by quietly and when it is said and done you beg for - in this case me - to spend another hour compiling refs, resizing and cropping them into a neat collage, then doing the same for all previous delivered studies. For what? To get shit on by nodraw crabs and the local shizo again? Fuck you. I get three practice sketches done in the same time and just post them quietly. No (You)s is better than being spit on by degenerates that for SOME CONFOUNDING REASON are still not banned and continue to shit up the thread.

>>6825999
You are so pathetic. You feel right at home in this thread. You have no idea what this thread looked like at its peak and several times after that for short periods of time. You honestly cant imagine the collective improvement that took place on /ic/ when people bullied nodraws, crabs and shizos off the board on sight.

>>6826002
See the above answer. I am so fucking tired trying to lift up the thread so it can be an attraction for people who want to improve. But I fail everytime. Sick of trying for nothing in return.

You win shizo and shizo tolarators. I am fucking certain nobody except for me is reporting his never ending torrent of recycled bait posts.

[Anonymous No.6826027]

>>6826017
I'm sorry you feel that way. All I can do is literally just draw, and then literally just post drawings. Thank you for trying.

[Anonymous No.6826028]

>>6826017
>to spend another hour compiling refs, resizing and cropping them into a neat collage
Anon I........ a collage doesn't take an hour... especially if it was like yours where there was no particular theme

[Anonymous No.6826029]

normally I never draw men, did this today
I think its alright considering I kept it relatively simple/basic

[Anonymous No.6826031]

>>6826017
absolutely seething!

[Anonymous No.6826039]

pic related same concept but women+normies = crabs+shizos

[Anonymous No.6826042]

>>6826017
The reason people come here instead of coming to real art communities is because they want to stir shit up and be assholes with no repercussion, it's the place for anti-social people, pedos, and talentless fascists, that's the appeal of an anonymous board
>n-no it's for free spech a-and
you're confusing speaking your mind with being an asshole, you can speak your mind more effectively on other social media than this cesspool
Make a discord and moderate it if you want a community so much
>You have no idea what this thread looked like at its peak
I watched this thread on-and-off for several years and the only difference between now and then is that the skill level is genuinely higher now

[Anonymous No.6826044]

>>6825827
>he thinks trois crayons makes up for lowbeg proportions and value control
textbook dunning kruger

[Anonymous No.6826045]

>>6826042
>is that the skill level is genuinely higher now
that's all because of the collab sticky that I, anon-sensei, mostly wrote, right? People read my figure drawing guide and made great gains!

[Anonymous No.6826048]

>>6825867
Fuck off back to r thedonald and never come back.

[Anonymous No.6826052]

>>6825892
>Squidward tried to learn by studying, but he couldn't produce anything
Elaborate. Squidward *did* produce art though? See the "bold and brash" meme which is proof he created appealing art...?

[Anonymous No.6826054]

>>6825918
>>6825923
The writers on that season did a panel at comicon and said explicitly the message of that episode was misunderstood by every test audience though

[Anonymous No.6826055]

>>6826052
More like belongs in the trash!

[Anonymous No.6826059]

>>6825953
>>6825960
please answer

[Anonymous No.6826061]

>>6825970
Unironically polished all appeal out of her face compared to rough drawing.

[Anonymous No.6826062]

>>6826045
I think people just got better with time and the people who didn't quit
The simplest answer is usually right

[Anonymous No.6826063]

>>6826054
Who were you replying to, and source?

[Anonymous No.6826064]

>>6825973
>>6825961
>>6825931
hang yourself

[Anonymous No.6826066]

>>6825987

[Anonymous No.6826068]

>>6825960
>>6826009
how long? you draw like i wish to but i just started? how long did you study?

[Anonymous No.6826070]

>>6826027
God you sound like a faggot
>>6826017
kill yourself and never come back

[Anonymous No.6826073]

>>6826042
>skill level is genuinely higher now
tell me you are lying without telling me you are lying

[Anonymous No.6826074]

>>6826039
>>6826031
TRUE

[Anonymous No.6826077]

>>6825961
Holy based! Now THIS is how to have fun with a pencil!

[Anonymous No.6826078]

How come nobody who replies to red blob senpai ever posts his work, while red blob senpai always posts work without fail?

>>6826073
I think this is neither true nor false. Just differing anecdotal observations.

>>6826063
There must be a recording on youtube of basically every comicon panel ever held. NTA so I don't have it, sorry!

[Anonymous No.6826082]

>>6826029
That is actually some exceptionally clean lines What tutorials did you watch for inking?

[Anonymous No.6826086]

>>6825824
>>6825838
What book should I study to draw like >>6825838
?

[Anonymous No.6826087]

>>6826078
But which anon was wrong/"wrong"?

[Anonymous No.6826089]

>>6826031
kill yourself shizo

[Anonymous No.6826091]

>>6826089
Mindbroken. No talent for bantz!

[Anonymous No.6826096]

>>6826028
>a collage doesn't take an hour
>you have never made a collage: POV

[Anonymous No.6826097]

>>6826096
A collage of six pictures for random references definitely doesn't take an hour

[Anonymous No.6826098]

>>6826078
>How come nobody who replies to red blob senpai ever posts his work, while red blob senpai always posts work without fail?
because they want to stir shit because that's what this website is for, case and point, thank you

[Anonymous No.6826100]

>>6826042
>this thread was always shit
literally the reaction as predicted in the fifth panel of >>6826039

>>6826017
is right there is a huge acceptance of off-topic posts that is not healthy

>>6826055
pyw

[Anonymous No.6826102]

>>6826087
>>6826091
>>6826097
kill yourself

[Anonymous No.6826103]

>>6826097
>A collage of six pictures for random references
Oh I am mistaken then. If they are randomly strewn together anybody can do it. My bad I misunderstood lol

[Anonymous No.6826104]

>>6826098
You are wrong. There are explicit rules against the behavior of some of the users in this thread. The fact that it isn't being enforced is either due to insufficient moderation or willful tolerance for the purposes of containment.

https://www.4chan.org/rules#global3
>troll posts
https://www.4chan.org/rules#ic1
>All images and discussion should pertain to the critique of visual artwork
https://www.4chan.org/rules#ic3
Rude or offensive comments will result in a ban

[Anonymous No.6826106]

>>6826098
To be clear I am not defending that attention whoring red faggot but the other anons are equally as guilty in posting bait and drama

[Anonymous No.6826109]

>>6826104
>The fact that it isn't being enforced is either due to insufficient moderation or willful tolerance for the purposes of containment.
If /ic/beg/ is containment, where do we go to make a /beg/ friendly art thread??

[Anonymous No.6826112]

>>6825830
+1

>>6825845
>>6825867
>>6825869

[Anonymous No.6826114]

>>6826104
nobody cares go back to drawing

[Anonymous No.6826115]

Anyone have tips on patterns or is it going to be forever tedious?

[Anonymous No.6826116]

>>6826104
deserved ban for bait posting

[Anonymous No.6826130]

>>6826115
Or to put it in a more positive way, is there some kind of short cut or is it an exercise in patience for oneself in art?

[Anonymous No.6826132]

>>6826017
I don't know why you're spazzing out. Some people liked drawing the references and appreciated it and some people were just looking to get a rise out of you. Dunno why you'd give them the satisfaction of a freak-out. Just take a break from on-line, man.

[Anonymous No.6826145]

>>6826130
There are no shortcuts. Period. Either put in the work necessary or give up. Simple as that.

>>6826017
>>6826132
Try to change your writing style when same fagging. It's embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.6826146]

>>6826115
Forever tedious

[Anonymous No.6826147]

>>6826145
Nta but what work?

[Anonymous No.6826151]

QRD on this reference drama?

I am at work, will post when I get home again but this is nuts.

[Anonymous No.6826153]

>>6826130
>>6826147
>literally squares
>asking for "shortcuts"
absolutely unabashedly never going to make it

[Anonymous No.6826154]

>>6826153
I have no clue what's going on, I jumped into the conversation

[Anonymous No.6826155]

>>6826098
see>>6826042

[Anonymous No.6826156]

sorry, was meant to reply to>>6826154

[Anonymous No.6826157]

>>6825850
>>6825961
>>6826029
>>6826115
this is an anime board
do not like it
leave

[Anonymous No.6826158]

WHAT'S HAPPENING?

[Anonymous No.6826162]

>>6826158
Just ride it out, Anon. Plenty of time to draw while you wait.

[Anonymous No.6826163]

>>6826145
>>6826153
Of course there are shortcuts. All of drawing is learning a series of shortcuts to depict what is inside the mind's eye.

>>6826147
Depends. What is your goal?

>>6826116
>>6826098
What was that deleted post?
>>6826104

[Anonymous No.6826167]

>>6826163
>what is inside the mind's eye
5

[Anonymous No.6826170]

Has anybody saved that screenshot talking about the
>all anime girls are just cats
theory? Please post it! I want to study it
pic kinda related

[Anonymous No.6826171]

[Anonymous No.6826173]

>>6826167
>5
Of course disregarding reference copy, those are different

[Anonymous No.6826174]

>>6826104
>insufficient moderation
this is not a bug, but a feature of this fucking shit creek, its why people come here
>>6826039
i was here 7+ years ago you moron and it was 3 times worse than it is now, get a fucking clue, nobody ever posted their work and it was swarming with pre-begs. The only good thing about it was making fun of art content creators like jazza who were very prominent in board culture at that time
also that image was never applied to a real community, it's something someone pulled out of their ass because they hate women, no real example of this happening exists, stop being so naive that you believe in /4ch theory/, literally the dumbest fucking takes about reality and communities that exist, written by the most bitter and dumbest people on the internet, seriously don't let this fucking place take the smallest stake inside your headspace, NONE of your decision making or worldview should be informed by this site. If you haven't figured this out already yourself then you're either underage and trying to fit in OR a lost cause that's been here for 10+ years and never got a clue

[Anonymous No.6826175]

Fucking hell these threads move fast.

45min yesterday. Yes I fucked the measures.

[Anonymous No.6826177]

Yesterday again.

[Anonymous No.6826178]

>>6826174
calm down its just a comic

[Anonymous No.6826182]

>>6826178
a comic that you believe in like gospel

[Anonymous No.6826183]

>>6826174
>i was here 7+ years ago
NTA and not to sound rude, but post your work. I want to see realistic improvement that occurs over years of /ic/ flavoured practice. I already know what youtube/twitter art looks like after years but not /ic/ art of 5+ years please

[Anonymous No.6826187]

>>6825838
the clothing really threw me off. not even going to post my attempts on the other poses lol.
should be finally getting my tablet tomorrow after post office has trolled me for 2 weeks.

[Anonymous No.6826188]

>>6826178
>>6826182
take your meds shizo i'm not the person you are arguing with

also post your work like >>6826183
said i wanna confirm something

[Anonymous No.6826189]

>>6826174
>im le oldfag
congratulations you have been in this shothole longer than all of us combined do you feel proud?

[Anonymous No.6826190]

Oil painting is so boring Im not having fun painting this I hate trying to paint leaves trees and nature its so hard and repetitive and uninteresting and painting in general is so hard and has so much tedious shit like washing the brush after every little segment you do or mixing colors or making a mistake and now you cant fix it quickly without your colors getting mixed up I hate oil painting

[Anonymous No.6826192]

>>6826174
>I was here 7+ years ago
Cool, so was I! Remember me anon?

[Anonymous No.6826196]

>>6825916
>>>/pol/

>>6825953
anybody?

[Anonymous No.6826198]

>>6826190
seems like a skill issue

[Anonymous No.6826202]

>>6826190
Just start anew and make sure to make a PERFECT DRAWING before you start painting. If the base is bad and unclear, the end result will suck.

[Anonymous No.6826204]

>>6826175
Anon I gave you advice in the previous thread, what do you think

[Anonymous No.6826207]

>>6826202
I don't care, I'm going to fix it until it's good, even though I have no inspiration left.

[Anonymous No.6826208]

[Anonymous No.6826211]

Crits on the coloring? I really only like the torso part, and I feel like it did the hair and eyes haphazardly.

[Anonymous No.6826213]

>>6826174
>i was here 7+ years ago
Prove it.
>it was 3 times worse than it is now
LMAO. I say it was 4 times worse! See how nothing of a statement that is?
>get a fucking clue
Calm down and present your arguments instead of malding.
>nobody ever posted their work
Literally a false statement.
>making fun of art content creators like jazza
Sorry I hide threads about e-celebs without reading them. I assume you tell the truth for the sake of argument.
>that image was never applied to a real community
Mental gymnastics. Are you a feminist and offended on womens behalf? Or merely a simp who feels called out?
>no real example of this happening exists
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH *inhales* AHAHAHAHAHAHA you can't be serious. What the fuck is your filter bubble my friend. I want to visit your world to save on psychadelic drugs LMAO
>NONE of your decision making or worldview should be informed by this site
If somebody posts "work to achieve your goals" on this site, does this instantly turn into bad advice?
Lunacy.

[Anonymous No.6826215]

>>6826204
Not him but saying "this is bad try again" is not great advice tb h

[Anonymous No.6826218]

>>6826202
>>6826207
This guy is a crab.

PERFECTION IS THE ENEMY.

Listen to your instinct and continue to paint.

He wants to beg trap you in meaningless line exercises.

Always do the opposite of crab posts

[Anonymous No.6826220]

>>6826204
what was it? i can not post my art - i am on the same level as that anon and maybe your advice would help me too...
if it was too long to type again i understand though

[Anonymous No.6826222]

>>6826213
>doesn't provide an example
proven right as always, thanks for playing
>work to achieve your goals
not a 4chan invention, gamergate era /pol/shit images are though

[Anonymous No.6826223]

>>6826204
Ah yes, thanks for that. I didn't think to check it out because I posted early in the stack and the thread moved fast.

If your advice was to ditch the black lines then I agree - I get what you mean. Right now I'm trying to just use those lines in outline and if I have the time, having achieved the goals of the study, I'll collapse the layers down and paint into the black like your post, which I saved - with thanks.

Picrel is an example of my having done that before - gradient, render, paint, collapse, blend.

I'll post more today once I'm done seeing patients. Thank you for your time and support - it means a lot.

[Anonymous No.6826224]

>>6826213
I'm not reading all that

>>6826202
pyw>>6826198

[Anonymous No.6826226]

>>6826044
>Doesn't post his work
textbook nodraw
>>he thinks trois crayons makes up for lowbeg proportions and value control
Also I have no idea where you saw trois crayons in that drawing, my reference was an old photo so of course the colour palette is limited to three colours. If you are so enlightened then please feel free to point out my lowbeg proportions. I overlayed my reference image over my sketch and it lines up quite closely for how rushed that drawing was.

[Anonymous No.6826227]

>>6826222
>not answering a single point
>declaring yourself as victorious
CHAD
never change /ic/

[Anonymous No.6826228]

>>6826223
Fake penis.

[Anonymous No.6826229]

>>6826227
>not answering a single point
but i did you fucking moron? I didn't answer all of them because they're not worth my time. where does one get so many retards to populate this site with

[Anonymous No.6826230]

>>6826226
anon dont react so triggered from a simple crab post just ignore and move on

[Anonymous No.6826233]

>>6826229
anon i-i was complementing you approach to troll posts =(

[Anonymous No.6826235]

>>6826220
>I can not post my art
Surely you can post something. You would get feedback for your skills

[Anonymous No.6826236]

>>6826222
g*m*rg*t* was real though

[Anonymous No.6826237]

>>6826227
>>6826229
>>6826230
>>6826233
please drink bleach you spamming retards there are anons here who actually draw

[Anonymous No.6826239]

>>6826207
That is a good spirit to have friend. GMI

[Anonymous No.6826241]

>>6826236
no it wasn't, your inability to see this betrays your lack of intellectual growth and intellectual honesty

[Anonymous No.6826244]

>>6826241
woah slow down the buckaroo im no good with your fancy 3 syllabul words dumb it down for me will ya son?

[Anonymous No.6826245]

>>6826222
>>6826229
>>6826241
terminally leftoid infested reddit brain

[Anonymous No.6826247]

Fact: If you are right wing you are NGMI

[Anonymous No.6826248]

>>6826241
>no it wasn't
why is there a wikipedia article about it then? JEJ

>>6826247
Opinion: Your political stance does not predict your success in the pursuit of a hobby.

[Anonymous No.6826251]

>>6826247
Please take your /pol/ shit and leave this board...

[Anonymous No.6826252]

>>6826248
>why is there a wikipedia article about it then? JEJ
and what does it say about it :) ?
Keep in mind "gamergate is real" refers to the idea that the conspiracy theory behind it was right

[Anonymous No.6826253]

>>6826230
Yes I should ignore those crabby replies but there is too much good faith in my heart so I sometimes sincerely believe that they might ACTUALLY point out and critique properly but alas it never happens

[Anonymous No.6826254]

Fact: If you are academically stupid you are NGMI

[Anonymous No.6826255]

>>6826247

[Anonymous No.6826257]

>>6826252
>Keep in mind "gamergate is real" refers to the idea that the conspiracy theory behind it was right
moving the goal posts and admitting it lol
go to bed and stop spamming this thread with politics>>6826251

>>6826254
>trust the science
why do you people insist on shoving your politics into everything? we are here to draw, nothing else. PLEASE leave. you have an entire board for yourself. this place is for drawing /beg/s

[Anonymous No.6826259]

FACT: OPINION
FACT:OPINION

[Anonymous No.6826262]

>>6826247
>>6826254
>>6826259
wow
self-burn

[Anonymous No.6826263]

>>6826257
>human ability to think and problem solving
>politics
Does studying means politics to you?

[Anonymous No.6826265]

>>6825985
lmao

[Anonymous No.6826275]

>>6826174
>i was here 7+ years ago you moron and it was 3 times worse than it is now
retard

[Anonymous No.6826276]

>>6826262
lets see your loomis head chud

[Anonymous No.6826277]

>>6826276
low effort bait
here is your (YOU)

[Anonymous No.6826278]

>>6826257
it's called clarification you fucking epic redditor debator
>you did level 10 goalpost move which means you are disqualified from this debat-
it was obviously my point from the start which you can gleam from context fucking dweeb

[Anonymous No.6826279]

>>6826276
nice tate

[Anonymous No.6826280]

>>6826277
I accept your concession.

[Anonymous No.6826284]

>>6826278
>i-i did not move the goal posts
>they were moved from the start
>besides you are a redditor
i admit defeat. you win. now please stop spamming this thread with your culture war bullshit

[Anonymous No.6826286]

>>6825985
Alright here you go

[Anonymous No.6826288]

>>6826259
i thought that was AI at first

[Anonymous No.6826292]

>>6826247
Sorry but I'm going to make it

[Anonymous No.6826298]

>>6826248
>>6826251
>>6826255
>>6826262
>>6826292
chuds malding at the truth

[Anonymous No.6826303]

>>6826286
you should choose pictures
>with a clear subject or central point of interest
>with a range of light and shadow to add depth and dimension
>with intriguing and dynamic viewpoints
>that showcase intricate details to practice rendering accurately
>especially a variety of texture

[Anonymous No.6826308]

>>6826278
cringe

>>6826288
lol yeah the right arm looks wonky at first, but it is definitely human made

>>6826292
SOVL

>>6826303
this

Anybody have tips on how to draw fur (not necessarily for furry art, more realistic than that) if I am using only ink? I have only full white from the page or full black from my pen at my disposal...
Appreciate any advice!

[Anonymous No.6826310]

>>6825985
>Getting upset because retarded /ic/ crabs decide to crab
Just post the damn images.

[Anonymous No.6826311]

>>6826226
>That small orange reflection in the helmet to indicate surroundings

Give it to me, anon!

[Anonymous No.6826313]

I am still a beginner but I stumbled upon this podcast where a guest talks about the similarities between learning music (in this case the guitar) and learning to paint. I thought somebody might find it as helpful as me. I transcribed the segment using OCR and cleaned it up a bit from the subtitles that is why some words are wonky

The similarities between music and art can be summarized in three big over arching areas: expression, technique, and practice.

Expression: Both music and art are forms of creative expression. Just as a musician uses their instrument to convey emotions and tell a story, an artist uses their brush strokes, colors, and composition to communicate a message or evoke certain feelings. The ability to express oneself through these mediums is a common thread that connects musicians and artists alike.

Technique: Learning music and art require the understanding and mastery of various techniques. In music, one must learn how to read sheet music, understand rhythm, play different chords, and develop proper finger placement. Similarly, in art, artists must learn about color theory, perspective, shading, and various brush techniques. Both disciplines require honing technical skills through practice and repetition.

Practice: Both music and art demand practice and dedication. Musicians need to spend hours practicing scales, learning new songs, and improving their playing abilities. Similarly, artists must consistently work on their craft, experimenting with new techniques, practicing sketching proportions, and studying different styles. Progress is made through consistent effort and deliberate practice in both musical and artistic pursuits.

[Anonymous No.6826314]

>>6826303
I think the pics are fine. I don't have time to study them right now but the look okay in every single way?

[Anonymous No.6826316]

Today is a blank canvas waiting for your brush strokes. It's a new chance to showcase your potential and embrace the wondrous journey that lies ahead. I want you to know that you have the power within you to conquer any challenges that come your way. We are all GMI

[Anonymous No.6826318]

>>6826308
>Anybody have tips on how to draw fur (not necessarily for furry art, more realistic than that) if I am using only ink? I have only full white from the page or full black from my pen at my disposal...
>Appreciate any advice!
Anybody?

[Anonymous No.6826320]

>>6826316
>Today
It's already almost 9PM though

[Anonymous No.6826321]

>>6826303
Nta but where am I supposed to find references?

[Anonymous No.6826328]

>>6826320
>this is your brain on american education system
Time zones exist idiot

[Anonymous No.6826330]

>>6826303
>complaining about the picture choice instead of drawing

[Anonymous No.6826331]

>>6826313
>>6826316
thank you fren

[Anonymous No.6826332]

>>6826321
>>6826330
same energy
just google image search and go on from there

[Anonymous No.6826333]

>>6826204
please respond. i can not find your post in the previous thread

[Anonymous No.6826334]

>>6826170
I am curious, what does that theory say? Sounds potentially helpfull...
Thats a cute cat btw

[Anonymous No.6826336]

>>6826147
>>6826163
Mainly to draw well proportionate figures. Not coom but slightly erotic stuff. I have come to realize that proportions are the most reliable predictor of the likes a drawing gets on social media

[Anonymous No.6826337]

>>6826328
American website

[Anonymous No.6826341]

>>6826337
>american education
>same as russia and turkey
OMEGALUL

[Anonymous No.6826343]

What size tablet do you guys use?
I don't mean what brand or how much it cost.
I want to know where the sweet spot between too large and too small is.

[Anonymous No.6826344]

>>6826318
Ok anon I whipped out my micron pens for the first time in a year just for this, the answer is to simply draw lines in the direction of the fur. Hope that helps.

[Anonymous No.6826345]

>>6826320
>It's
>It has 9PM
wtf

[Anonymous No.6826346]

>>6826345
holy ESL

[Anonymous No.6826347]

>>6826344
>simply draw lines in the direction of the fur
Watch this I am going to get called a crab for this:
That is perhaps the most useless advice I have ever heard on the topic of fur. Never in the history of ever has anybody thought of
>drawing lines in the direction of the fur
wow. Let me guess, the advice you would give to a race car driver is
>be faster than the other cars
?
Yes your picture looks great, but holy shit that is some dog shit (lol) advice.

[Anonymous No.6826348]

>>6826344
I have no idea how you managed that.

[Anonymous No.6826350]

>>6826343
It does not matter. You can resize the active area in the tablet's driver settings.

[Anonymous No.6826352]

>>6826346
american education strikes AGAIN

[Anonymous No.6826354]

>>6826316

[Anonymous No.6826356]

>>6826352
>doesn't understand basic English
>seethes about Americans
rent free

[Anonymous No.6826357]

>>6826347
>artists are incapable of teaching others
News at 11.

[Anonymous No.6826358]

>>6826311
Sorry I don't understand your post...?

[Anonymous No.6826359]

>>6826357
>>6826347
post your work faggot
spoiler: you won't

>>6826343
there is a thread specifically for tablet discussion

[Anonymous No.6826361]

>>6826359
What does my level of art skill have to do with my knowledge?

[Anonymous No.6826362]

>>6826345
a compound for it is
>>6826358
he likes your fire reflection
now i have settled all issues in the thread :)

[Anonymous No.6826367]

It's over. I want to kill every human being on this planet including me so nobody has to ever experience the pain of being alive. Being concious and intelligent is a curse, a cruel joke. I really hope humanity will die out in my lifetime. Imagine only having fun for 20 years of your possibly 90 year existence. Only having a functioning body for 30 years. I hate it. Nothing has meaning and I hope all of us die very soon! UwU https://www.bryanbraun.com/your-life/weeks.html

[Anonymous No.6826371]

>>6826347
It's not mathematical equations, there is no better advice than that that I can give. You just draw it. You asked for advice on how to ink fur, so I gave it to you AND I even drew an example. Yes "just draw lines in the direction of the fur" sounds retarded and useless but that's what it is. Not everything has to be a detailed 10 part tutorial. Less is more and simplicity is good.

[Anonymous No.6826373]

day 49
Ok, I decide I'm going to start a blog on day 51! Look forward to it everyone
What is everyone arguing about? You realize that complaining about community drama is community drama itself right?

>>6825838
hey where's the impact frame? I feel blue-balled
>>6825970
is this the same anon who said you should copy your favourite doujin twice? If these are the results maybe I should get to it
>>6826175
>>6826223
>your advice was to ditch the black lines then
I was about to say the same thing, I think if you thinned/thickened the lines in strategic place to correlate with the form then it would really give your studies a big boost, considering the values you have are arleady top-notch

[Anonymous No.6826378]

>>6826373
Were you the one that posted the reference earlier?
How much time do you spend on drawing a day, all at once?

[Anonymous No.6826383]

Sup beg, today it was horrible. This book is truly weird one. It is called how to draw but its as if you are supposed to already know all the stuff and the book just does swift recaps.

Also holy shit at the amount of retards who post here without PYW. All of you: make your own general. Call it autistic no draw: /AND/ and get the fuck out of beg.

>>6826344
nice doggo
>>6826343
A4 paper size. but it is screensless so the effective size of canvas is as large as my monitor (32'')
>>6826313
that is cool blogpost but where is PYW?
>>6826211
coloring is simple and kinda appealing. though her haircut is almost completely flat and the pants are also flat on places and it looks like they dont fit her waist
>>6826208
this is cool
>>6826190
i remember seeing this painting already. how long are you working on it by now? you sure you havent reached turd polishing phase already?
>washing the brush after every little segment
dont you solve this by going from white > black? also dont you get happy accidents by not washing brush all the time? or arent you supposed to have multiple brushes?
>hate oil painting
i know that feeling, hang in there anon!
>>6826171
she is dead inside. thumbs up
>>6826029
this one is like you have depleted the drapery folds fund on pants and then you had nothing left for tshirt lmao
>>6825970
booba
>>6825938
one of the advantages of BEGness is that no matter what you do, there is only potential and space for improvement. Do whatever you want and draw!
>>6825910
booba. thumbs up!. for hairstyle just steal some from old magazines
>>6825868
i appreciate how you made that goofy background just to not have anime girl in a vacuum. Pretty nice all stuff considered. Though next time try to apply a little perspective rules
>>6826318
https://archive.org/details/Keys_to_Drawing/page/160
If you want to go FULL INK, then get book Guptill Rendering in Pen and Ink

[Anonymous No.6826384]

>>6826361
your art skill is a direct representation of your art knowledge
how regarded are you?

>>6826367
quality post 10/10

>>6826371
>Yes "just draw lines in the direction of the fur" sounds retarded and useless
agreed

>>6826378
what reference do you mean?

>>6826358
>>6826362
i don't think that's right anon

[Anonymous No.6826385]

>>6826378
are you the anon who unironically asked me how to hold a pen yesterday

[Anonymous No.6826386]

>>6826384
see
>>6825838

[Anonymous No.6826387]

>>6826383
Oh look, the keys to drawing shill is back. How is your stagnation this lovely evening?

[Anonymous No.6826389]

>>6826385
yes, how do you?

[Anonymous No.6826390]

>>6826385
Why are you so mad about a simple question

[Anonymous No.6826391]

>>6826383
What happened? Didn't draw the crabs today? My callout yesterday must have gotten to you

[Anonymous No.6826392]

>>6826373
>>6826385
Entitled little bitch you are nowhere near good enough to be such a prick.

Check your inflated ego crab.

[Anonymous No.6826397]

>>6826383
try re-doing the top right using the replication techniques in the book: the whole idea of that page is to show how one might draw accurate arches in perspective

[Anonymous No.6826396]

>>6826391
I think he was the original crab drawer, you must be confusing him

>>6826387
but keys to drawing is a legit better book than loomis?...

>>6826389
however feels natural for you anon. no rules only tools

[Anonymous No.6826399]

>>6826386
where is that reference from? what is the name of that book pls?

[Anonymous No.6826400]

>>6826390
I'm not mad, I just want to know if there's a point replying if it's the "how do I' troll
>>6826392
how am I a prick? arent you just projecting?

[Anonymous No.6826401]

I drew the foal too, I can't believe you faggots can't understand something as simple as just drawing. It's literally that easy.

[Anonymous No.6826402]

>>6826383
kill yourself shizo

[Anonymous No.6826406]

>>6826383
you're copying the illustrations and not doing the exercises? Why? Also, another fucking perspective book?

Try learning to think for yourself

[Anonymous No.6826407]

>>6826387
What would you suggest instead?

[Anonymous No.6826408]

>>6826401
>two thirds of the lines are restated
>fancy trying-to-look-loose scribbles with no rhyme or reason everywhere
>proportions fucked
>that face
post your shit on instagram to impress normies
your insecurity is soaking through the paper

[Anonymous No.6826412]

>>6826407
ask the shizo he is the one recommending the same book to everybody regardless of their skills or individual goals

>>6826401
cool now draw it without shaking your hand like you have parkinson disease

[Anonymous No.6826414]

>>6826400
here is your (You)

>>6826396
>no rules only tools
okay I will keep it in mind and try different ways until I find a good one thanks!

>>6826383
thank you!

[Anonymous No.6826415]

>>6826408
yadayada another nodraw fag I'd like to see you do better in less than 20 minutes

[Anonymous No.6826418]

>>6826414
fucking moron

[Anonymous No.6826419]

REMEMBER NOT TO TAKE ANY POST BY PAWELL SERIOUSLY

HE IS A *L I T T E R A L* PERMA BEG

[Anonymous No.6826420]

>>6826383
unironically get help and stop posting here

[Anonymous No.6826421]

>>6826373
>anon who said you should copy your favourite doujin twice
yeah it's me

[Anonymous No.6826422]

>>6826415
Okay this is funny. I have actually posted my art before and you have praised it

twice

AHAHAHAHAHAH

[Anonymous No.6826425]

>>6826419
what the fuck
how is it even possible to draw so much without improving even accidentally

[Anonymous No.6826427]

>>6826422
>still not posting
Okay buddy

[Anonymous No.6826429]

>>6826419

[Anonymous No.6826431]

>>6826419
>>6826425
>>6826429
I wish instead of AI and talent shit posting /ic/ had some sort of consensus on what leads to this chris-chan like stagnation. The though this might happen to somebody and we do not know how to prevent it is more frightening than AI

[Anonymous No.6826432]

>>6826286
literally me

[Anonymous No.6826434]

>>6826344
NTA but I appreciate your insight anon

how do you decide where to put lines that follow the fur direction -

and where to leave empty space

the head and big spots on the back are left untextured

is it because there are bright spots of reflection from the fur there

[Anonymous No.6826436]

>>6826343
7x10

[Anonymous No.6826437]

>>6826419
>>6826425
>>6826429
>>6826431
if you guys drew more i think you would realise it takes a lot more than that to get out of beg

[Anonymous No.6826440]

>>6826419
does he read the books he is copying? that might be the answer

[Anonymous No.6826441]

[Anonymous No.6826442]

>>6826437
this. One sheet of paper worth of drawing for 1-2 years is not even making a dent into the mileage you need to learn to draw.

There are people in animation school who animate a shot per day. That's hundreds and hundreds of drawings in a month. That's thousands upon tens of thousands by the time they graduate. And then think about how much more they're animating once they're working for a studio.

Pawell's a dabbler, but he's making the equivalent progress for a dabbler

[Anonymous No.6826443]

>>6826437
>>6826442
samefag

[Anonymous No.6826445]

>>6826442
focused studying != mindless copying

[Anonymous No.6826447]

>>6826437
not necessarily but true, people play league for 10 years without getting to platinum once, it takes a long time to get good
>>6826421
im curious, what was the doujin?

[Anonymous No.6826451]

14 month difference. i dont really see how you could say he hasnt improved

[Anonymous No.6826455]

>>6826431
Anon, that's exactly what the talentfags keep warning you about. People can, and will, reach their limit and stagnate quite easily because that's all they're genetically capable of. If you embraced the talent meme instead of seething every time it was brought up, pawell would've been in the past tense by now

[Anonymous No.6826454]

>>6826419
how long has he been drawing?

[Anonymous No.6826458]

>>6826437
>>6826442
>>6826451
samefagging this hard
face it pawell you are done

[Anonymous No.6826464]

>>6826451
ok now post 2 pics that are 13 months apart
you know
not comparing his first ever drawing :^)
not cherry picking so to speak
only its turd picking

[Anonymous No.6826465]

To crab below this point, you must draw this frog.

[Anonymous No.6826466]

>>6826465
but anon its too complex we will all be filtered!
>>6826464
goalposts moved

[Anonymous No.6826470]

>>6826434
Thank you! I simply add fur lines on the edges or where it's mostly concentrated (like on the neck). I didn't put as much on the face simply because the fur there is very short. I don't know much how to explain it other then to observe the image and then redraw it or to even trace over it once and then do it again a second time but freehanding it.

[Anonymous No.6826474]

>>6826466
>>6826465
>>6826451
>>6826442
>>6826437
pawell your schizophrenia makes it impossible for you to samefag
stop

[Anonymous No.6826475]

>>6826465
this should be a real and harshly enforced rule anyone who doesn't draw the ref that allows you to crab gets permanently banned

[Anonymous No.6826480]

>>6826447
doujins from trylsc
the copy 2x was kinda a meme because the bridgman thing
but I copied several pages from his doujins
what really helped me a lot to draw voluptuous girls were these figures here from his pixiv
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/69214448#1

[Anonymous No.6826484]

its done and i hate it

[Anonymous No.6826490]

>>6826474

[Anonymous No.6826491]

>>6826044
>I'm going to bully people who post beginner artwork in the beginner thread

[Anonymous No.6826493]

>>6826490
cringe pawell simp, he's a 40 year old fat baldie that faps to loli

[Anonymous No.6826494]

>>6826491
Yeah you are right. I suck. Now his proportions are magically better :)

[Anonymous No.6826498]

>>6826419
That's not even 400 pages. You need literal THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS of pages to reach intermediate level.
He knows that truth and he accepted that.

Perma-Pre-Begs Crabbos here will never put one foot on the door, their weak minds can't even begin to comprehend that reality. They are worst than AI-tards.

[Anonymous No.6826499]

>>6826451
Damn, the anatomy of the right side figures is heinous. Btw the difference between left and right side figures should represent the results of two months of study maximum, and if done right you'd end up much better than that. Go study Michael Hampton now.

[Anonymous No.6826507]

>>6826498
pawell you swallowed the
>100 thousand hours
pill so hard its sad
you are mindlessly copying page after page
it does not matter if you put in x amount of work into it or y
you are not improving because you are not thinking about what you are doing

>>6826490
that drawing is not the slam dunk on pawell haters that you think it is anon

[Anonymous No.6826510]

>>6826499
I'm a dumbass, can you please elaborate? At a glance, looking only at the topmost image on the right, I can see issue with the right arm and left leg, and there's something off about the head and neck.

[Anonymous No.6826511]

>>6826507
the pawell hater club consisting of you, you and you
all u have to do is post ur work and your claims will be validated and i will concede immediately

[Anonymous No.6826516]

>>6826511
okay
here it is
>>6826419

[Anonymous No.6826518]

pawell
draw a cute anime girl
just do it
and don't 1:1 copy something you found on the internet
you either shut every single hater up or you realize you're on the wrong path and save yourself from wasting time
It's a win win situation, you draw tons of shit everyday anyway so what's the hurt?

[Anonymous No.6826519]

[Anonymous No.6826520]

>>6826519

[Anonymous No.6826522]

>>6826519
disturbingly ugly

[Anonymous No.6826524]

>>6826520

[Anonymous No.6826525]

>>6826518
*snip snip* goes the crab

[Anonymous No.6826527]

>>6826522
at least I tried

[Anonymous No.6826529]

>>6826524

[Anonymous No.6826530]

>>6826519
Try drawing the chin/jaw lower.

[Anonymous No.6826532]

>>6826529

[Anonymous No.6826535]

>>6826507
New fag hating on Pawell...
>he doesn't know

[Anonymous No.6826536]

>>6826525
you just cant do it
you copy tons and tons of shit, daily, and you can't draw one thing that would get every hater off your dick
even though you like it, even though you complement every anime girl that's posted even when it's beg
everyone is right, they couldn't be more right, you can't draw

[Anonymous No.6826539]

>>6826532

[Anonymous No.6826542]

Where is "Draw this rock" anon..I..anon kun...we need you in these dark times..

[Anonymous No.6826543]

>pawell is now arguing with himself
What a sad little man.

[Anonymous No.6826546]

[Anonymous No.6826548]

>>6826546

[Anonymous No.6826551]

>>6826530
like this?

[Anonymous No.6826552]

>>6826551
You are getting closer, I still think the bottom of the chin needs to be even lower.

[Anonymous No.6826556]

>>6825960
damn, if you just improved your face style, 10k followers on Twitter. maybe try to shrink the eyes a little bit.

[Anonymous No.6826562]

Nodraws should go outside, look at the sky and contemplate their existence.
>>6826286
Gave it a shot

[Anonymous No.6826563]

>>6826383
>i remember seeing this painting already. how long are you working on it by now? you sure you havent reached turd polishing phase already?

took a long break from painting in general but total like 12 hrs or so maybe more

[Anonymous No.6826565]

>>6826465

[Anonymous No.6826566]

>>6826565
Which part of the frog did you draw first?

[Anonymous No.6826572]

I wish this thread was a little more beg and a little less int
I like picking out a beginners drawing and trying to redraw it, it's a nice challenge to keep your ego in check or alternatively improve your confidence
Also I like to think it helps people by showing them directly where they can improve

[Anonymous No.6826577]

>>6826566
I did a very rough block in for the whole and then went from big to small shapes/forms

[Anonymous No.6826579]

>>6826551

[Anonymous No.6826580]

I don't get gesture. I don't get how its supposed to help me. I do it and I feel like I'm drawing incoherent scribbles that vaguely point towards the form. Am I just retarded?

[Anonymous No.6826581]

>>6826579
Move the lips to the left a bit and you're done.

[Anonymous No.6826586]

>>6826572
It's that attitude that keeps us begs from posting

[Anonymous No.6826596]

>>6826586
Don't you want a redline?
If someone redlined my drawing i would be happy, you normally pay people for this kind of help
You're beg because of your attitude

[Anonymous No.6826602]

>>6826596
I need someone to not beat me up so I can work on my speed, I can worry about quality after I fix my quantity.

[Anonymous No.6826603]

>>6826602
That seems entirely ass backwards
In every single thing, you start slow, and you get speed through proficiency
Again it seems you remain beg because of your complete lack of intuitiveness

[Anonymous No.6826604]

>>6826602
Learning to distinguish the difference between valid harsh criticism and shitposting is a valuable skill anon. Post your work

[Anonymous No.6826606]

im just filling up pages with this while im at work
some day i will be able to draw something maybe

[Anonymous No.6826607]

>>6826603
>speed through proficiency
If you only knew anon, If you only knew...

[Anonymous No.6826618]

oa

[Anonymous No.6826628]

>>6826618
I want to hug those hogs

[Anonymous No.6826631]

emulating stealthnachos. How do i even start with digital coloring/ it's annoying that colors don't blend the way they do with paints irl.

[Anonymous No.6826637]

>>6826606
You'd get there faster if you were to explorer what that "something" is.

[Anonymous No.6826638]

Nothing special, but I'm relatively happy with how it came out. I was trying to go for a specific style, and except for the godawful hand, I feel like I managed it. Could've done the hair better as well, but no use stressing. Trying too hard on it would've defeated the point. Some other minor mistakes, but again, eh.

[Anonymous No.6826641]

Making quick doodles is actually pretty tricky.
I appreciate the people who shit out good looking drawings daily or quickly.
Im sure i can make it look better, but how?

[Anonymous No.6826642]

Is this how you're supposed to adapt the loomis method to fit stylized faces?

[Anonymous No.6826659]

>>6826642
anime heads are a combination of exaggeration, graphic design and perspective
that's why /asg/ recommends copying: it's easier to learn from intuition than to reverse engineer something that might not make complete sense in 3d space
you can of course use figurines or 3d models, but then you'll lose some of the appeal / expressiveness of the art style

[Anonymous No.6826669]

>>6826628
>23
They wish you good fortune in the coming harveSt.

[Anonymous No.6826673]

>>6826638
by the way I lied, the mistakes bothered me enough I felt it was worth fixing (somewhat).

[Anonymous No.6826680]

>>6826226
why do you keep posting how long the piece took you ?
So much as to write it on the image ?
Are you that desperate for praise from random people on 4chan ?
You're just gonna say "haha you jealous crab"
But seriously, writing the time it took on your art is super pathetic man

[Anonymous No.6826687]

>>6826680
is it really that strange? I've seen the same kind of notes with figure drawings, but with shorter times
I thought it was related to being mindful of how time is spent, to focus on the bigger picture/effect
not the anon that drew that btw

[Anonymous No.6826690]

>>6826637
anon told me i should parctice lines, so im doing the thing in the stick. the end goal is cute anime girls obviously uwu

[Anonymous No.6826692]

>>6825953
>>6826059
>>6826068
5 years...

[Anonymous No.6826721]

Feedback greatly appreciated for anything other than coloring (only because I hastily filled the colors in for instant gratification; you can tell). Character from that new game Deathbulge: Battle of the Bands.

I spent some time trying to learn proportions/anatomy from MikeyMegaMega earlier today but I felt like I learned nothing except "draw two eggs and connect them with splines". Advice on how to proceed would be great.

Personal history: fell for the drawabox kool-aid a few months ago, went at it for a month then gave up (didn't finish lesson 1). Picked up the drawing tablet starting 5 days ago and using Krita.

[Anonymous No.6826726]

>>6826286
Another
>>6826017
Nice. To improve the penis, study Polki. And I guess maybe good furry artists. Man, it would be really hilarious if you drew one of your luscious anime girls being knotted haha. That would be so silly haha…
It seems like for the past three threads in particular some nodraw doublenigger decided to deliberately shit things up. Frustrating, but the opinion of nodraws has no bearing on an art board, so I’d just report them all since the thoughts of a nodraw are, by definition, off topic in /ic/.
>>6826115
Look up photoshop tutorials about applying logos/text to wrinkled clothing. That might help.
>>6825970
Nice. Her armpit anatomy seems slightly off.
>>6825969
These are great, and squeaky clean compared to mine. Gesture isn’t meant to be the finished product. It’s the scaffolding. I’d add a head and the indication of hands and feet. You’re clearly at the level where just doing torso/bean only gesture isn’t needed. Do the full figure.
>>6825827
Based
>>6826171
SOVL
>>6826177
Keep it up!
>>6826187
Inspiring effort and consistency. GMI
>>6826208
Impressive! Her right (on our left) hand/wrist needs attention.
>>6826226
Fucking cool
>>6826253
SOVL. His smug aura mocks me
>>6826259
I recommend vilppu
>>6826292
Nice, I like it
>>6826344
Impressive, better than mine IMO.
>>6826401
Looks more like a pony than a baby horse, but it’s very well done.
>>6826373
Nice rendering. It’s very cool of you to invent the next pose following through on the kick. GMI
>>6826432
Nice clean lines, you made him look like a chill, peaceful, dgaf kinda guy. I like that.
>>6826441
Visually interesting. Work on feeling the form, proportion, and anatomy. So… basically Vilppu.
>>6826527
GMI
>>6826548
Ref wins from waist up, but no ref has better legs. good job.
>>6826618
Beautiful inking!
>>6826579
Lovely eyes
>>6826631
>coloring
No idea but step 1 is git gud at values
>>6826638
SOVL
>>6826641
Agreed. I’m slow too.
>>6826606
See how Peter Han does it.

[Anonymous No.6826732]

>>6826726
>See how Peter Han does it.
thats what im kinda doing, i watched part 1, but i only have a ballpoint pen so i cant really trace over the lines without burnishing the paper and making a track for the ball to follow. i am mostly doing his circle technique, toll i can get a pigma pen or something

[Anonymous No.6826747]

>>6826604
I'll do it when it looks like what's normally posted here these days, rest assured it is far below (You)r level

[Anonymous No.6826769]

>>6826732
Watch it again and pay attention to what he says about following through and truing up your circles and ellipses
>>6826747
Just pyw. You’ll improov faster with feedback. We all suck at something in some way, we’re all beg in this thread. There’s no minimum level required to participate. Just draw something. You can only steer a ship if it’s moving.
>>6826721
First, read Drawing On The Right Side Of The Brain, or Keys To Drawing. That’ll teach you to see. Then, do whatever you need to in order to feel the form. Draw a box, artWOD, modern day James, Dynamic Sketching (probably not very beg friendly) or whatever. I find that getting a good grasp of form and construction made it possible for the figure drawing stuff to click. So, once you have a basic grasp of that, or at least understand what construction is and how it works, do the Vilppu Drawing Manual and Vilppu’s video courses. You can also do Drawing Comics The Marvel Way, it’s a great book too.

[Anonymous No.6826785]

>>6826769
i was doing the part where you make a circle above the paper then set it down but i guess ive been lifting up again too soon.. seems like he only does about 1.5 circles though. should i be doing 2 or 3 since im bad do you think?

[Anonymous No.6826786]

>>6826726
>Look up photoshop tutorials about applying logos/text to wrinkled clothing. That might help.
Unfortunately, I intend to be a traditional artist, so this might not be so helpful, but thanks for the rec. I may have to use some digital tricks.

[Anonymous No.6826792]

>>6826726
based positivity enjoyer

[Anonymous No.6826799]

>>6825907
>just follow your gut in drawing and to be open minded
my gut says nothing and my mind is empty, i need rules anon.

>Captcha: IT'S TIME TO PLAY THE GAAAAMMEE

[Anonymous No.6826831]

I haven't touched a tablet in months. Feels weird.

[Anonymous No.6826832]

>>6825910
>>>/i/756096

[Anonymous No.6826858]

>>6826484
It looks great. Very Lion, Witch and Wardrobe-esque. I miss that strange animation style.

[Anonymous No.6826924]

>>6826832
Thanks for the replay anon, interesting to watch. Has cemented my hatred of ugly sketching, I need to learn to draw things prettier. What did you study for those forms?

[Anonymous No.6826966]

>>6826170
Do you mean this?

[Anonymous No.6826974]

>>6826786
There's not really any inherent benefit to learning how to warp text over wrinkled cloth, traditionally. Text on clothing is only really useful in a handful of situations. I might be talking out of my ass, of course, but a lot of traditional paintings avoid text on fabrics.

[Anonymous No.6826976]

>>6826831
Maybe if you place it on a table, so you don't have to touch it?

Just kidding. Nice drawing.

[Anonymous No.6827007]

>>6826441
Wow this one is really nice!
Nice shapes, lines, everything!
Shading might detract from the work but maybe try cell shading?

[Anonymous No.6827014]

>>6826187
very nice!

[Anonymous No.6827054]

>>6826358
I liked the small nuance of the added reflection. It gives it more dimensionality. I like it.

[Anonymous No.6827131]

Boob morning, I finished this

[Anonymous No.6827138]

>>6827131
very based anon, as usual. What is the story though? I guess the cloak gives him magical fire power, is this his sadness after slaying the big dragon?

[Anonymous No.6827145]

>>6827131
Did I just post work again when we're at bump limit? Why does this keep happening to me

>>6827138
He has fire power bc he blew up in a gas explosion in his last life and was isekai'd + he's incredibly weak and just killed someone for the first time. Something like that read the light novel I guess

[Anonymous No.6827167]

>>6826286
I wanted to do the study of the room but it's too low res to make out anything you fucking suck

[Anonymous No.6827169]

>>6827167
money walks,bullshit talks you nodraw

[Anonymous No.6827171]

>>6827169
you fucking draw this garbage, go ahead, draw this fucking shit using that 360p reference, you fucking retarded faggot, god you people are worse than actual crabs

[Anonymous No.6827173]

>>6826441
Blog?

Reminds me of the art in 'Book of Travels' but a little more vibrant?

>>6827131
I like your stuff anon. It has a level of soul to it that I hope you don't lose as you get better.

[Anonymous No.6827176]

>>6827173
Thank you, I hope I don't lose the "soul" either but honestly I still don't know what that means. A lot of people say my work has soul but I don't know what they're talking about... if someone could tell me why I'd appreciate it.

[Anonymous No.6827178]

>>6827176
It's just a sort of catch all term for 'looks good despite objective deficiencies', or at least that's generally how it's used around here.

There's a certain charm to your rendering and faces look good and these do a lot to carry some of the areas you're less skilled in. Like foreshortening with anatomy.

Also please don't take this too harshly. Like I said I like your stuff and you're doing very well overall.

[Anonymous No.6827188]

>>6827178
Hm yeah that makes sense. I don't take it harshly, don't worry. If my stuff has appeal despite being wacky looking that's good news after all. I just gotta do more studies to close the gap.

[Anonymous No.6827195]

idk ill try to draw a couple blank figures like this every day till i can figure out how to draw a proportionate body

[Anonymous No.6827197]

>>6827195
Dawg do not draw anime girl ai slop to learn to draw proportions, draw real naked women

[Anonymous No.6827200]

>>6827197
but i want to learn to draw anime not real women. i should practice drawing what i want to end up drawing no?

[Anonymous No.6827205]

>>6826432
>>6826562
>>6826726
the only true yesdrawers in the thread
>>6826303
>>6827167
less complaining about the references and more drawing

[Anonymous No.6827207]

>>6827205
and where is your drawing dumb faggot?

[Anonymous No.6827209]

>>6826832
I'm in no position to give advice.
>>6826924
>>6827200
NTA, but maybe, at least draw from naked anime references. I can't really draw figures without references very well. My guess would be that I need to do more construction studies.

[Anonymous No.6827211]

>>6827209
I see why anon doesn't want to draw real women, they're fucking repulsive

[Anonymous No.6827224]

>>6827209
Even with a reference I fucked it all up. Look at her left arm. How did I not notice that before? Damn my eyes, what else have they failed to see, is litterally anything right?

[Anonymous No.6827227]

>>6827209
>>6827211
yeah i guess i should try to find naked stuff, the clothes makes it more difficult because i have to fill in the blanks, but i dont want hentai open on my phone when im in public. anyways even with clothes im not even close to getting the basic shape down. it would be so much easier to use illustrator and just get the rough shape and drag nodes around but i wanna draaaawwwww

[Anonymous No.6827243]

>>6826976
ty ty getting used to it again.

[Anonymous No.6827248]

>>6827209
Contrary to popular belief, a real woman can also sometimes be almost hairless. My wife has next to no body hair, outside the usual suspects (armpits and groin area) and even there, it's pretty minimal.

Nevertheless, that girl really needs a shave. I don't get why you wouldn't. I shave the hair on my face and head. It's not really that much of a hassle. I'm a pretty hairy guy, but even I know that it only takes like ten minutes with a good shaver to shave it all away, mostly.

[Anonymous No.6827256]

>>6827227
https://quickposes.com/en

Here you go. Set the timer to whatever you want and have at it. You'll learn next to nothing by filling in the blanks, as you say.

[Anonymous No.6827259]

>>6827256
thanks g, ill check that out when i wake up, bout time for bed

[Anonymous No.6827288]

>>6826510
The muscles have no form. He just drew 2d shapes and left all the form to be conveyed by the atrocious rendering. Many of the 2d shapes he drew make no sense and are not characteristic of the respective muscle/tendon. He gave no consideration to which muscles should be active and which should be passive or relaxed (see how both the right biceps AND triceps in the rendered figures in the center are drew as active - c shapes - even tho the arm is flexed). Finally, the perspective is really weird in some of those (you simply cannot tell where the left arm of the bottom right figure is going), but it really isn't the worst issue, all things considered.

[Anonymous No.6827290]

>>6827288
The perspective is the canary in the coalmine, ironic since all he does is grind perspective

[Anonymous No.6827303]

>>6825970
How is drawing from the shoulder a meme?

[Anonymous No.6827323]

>>6826966
So why do cats look like that? Is it just a coincidence that they happen to be the mathematical ideal of cuteness?
What about the mind control parasites that make you like cats?

[Anonymous No.6827330]

Been so long since I've drawn anything. Feels bad.

[Anonymous No.6827336]

>>6827323
Well, the theory is, that cats evolved to become cuter and cuter, so as that humans would take care of them. Essentially the opposite of a dog, which we humans domesticated.

[Anonymous No.6827344]

>>6827342
>>6827342
new edition
>>6827342

>>6827342

[Anonymous No.6827681]

>>6826399
Real Action Pose - Collection 1
I saw a Mega link that included it back in '21

[Anonymous No.6827697]

>>6825824
>small canvas, digital table, sitting behind table
So I can mostly draw the exact same way I write? Why did I watch all those "art" courses then?

[Anonymous No.6827749]

>>6826659
>that's why /asg/ recommends copying
should you copy any kind of art style, not just anime if you're trying to imitate a particular one? I always found it easier to flat out just try and copy another artist style rather than try and construct it like loomis does. Or does it depend on the art style?