/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.6817909]

Why do so many of you hate anime?
What did it do to you?

[Anonymous No.6817912]

>>6817909
do you draw anime because you enjoy it or to impress random people on the internet?
if the first option then keep drawing it and stop being a whiny bitch
if the second option, then keep drawing it and stop being an even bigger whiny bitch

[Anonymous No.6817914]

>>6817912
Doesn't answer my question

[Anonymous No.6817916]

>>6817909
as you get better at drawing, you start to hate your own work, and any style you have enough skill to replicate starts to look juvenile by proxy. Anime is very low level art, and people reach the skill level of doing typical anime shit quickly, so it becomes easy to hate. Lots of people who hate anime will style appreciate anime artists with high technical skill.

[Anonymous No.6817917]

Weebshit is culturally ruinous trash. Its partially responsible for the state of the world today.

[Anonymous No.6817922]

>>6817909
They are jealous of anime's popularity and success while it is being overly simplistic.

[Anonymous No.6817927]

>>6817916
>people reach the skill level of doing typical anime shit quickly
pyw anime master

[Anonymous No.6817928]

>>6817909
It's a woketard hazing campaign.
They can't accept the media that doesn't bow down to their political fanaticism is more successful and popular than their propaganda.

[Anonymous No.6817935]

Oversaturation

[Anonymous No.6817939]

>>6817917
show me on the doll where the anime touched you, sweetheart

[Anonymous No.6817949]

>>6817909
Modern day weeb culture is a disease and I have no hope anymore for both the future of japanese animation and what the anime fanbase has been turning into those last 5 years if not even earlier. Back when I was first really getting into anime and consumed lots of stuff ranging from classics, obscure gems and a few acclaimed (at the time) recent ones, so like from 2013 to around 2015, if I met someone with an interest in anime I knew we would instantly have a lot in common. The anime fandom felt like an actual community back then, we were all a bunch of socially awkward nerds who loved to find deeper meaning in shows like Eva and Monster, while still having an appreciation for harmless SoL such as K-on or Azumanga Daioh. Back then I felt as if I was truly part of something special.

Now when I strike up a conversation with younger/newer fans, it just feels different. It seems as if the new generation of anime fans is really immature, fixating on the same shallow nu-gen mainstream shounen, gobbling all the poor quality seasonal slop there is and over sexualizing literally everything. Maybe I’m growing up, but I honestly just can’t stand the community anymore and I try my best to dissociate myself from it as far as possible. The fixation on lolis and other just immature and stupid memes, what anitubers have become, "weeb culture", all the intentionally degeneracy because "it's funny that way lul", it all just annoys the fuck out of me now to the point I've become extremely picky about japanese media in general made after 2010.

[Anonymous No.6817950]

>>6817909
Contrariness is a celebrated virtue on 4chan. That being said I am actually glad there are people who hate anime, I'd hate to post in an echo chamber.

[Anonymous No.6817957]

>>6817950
No. It's good for a community to agree. If I was a janny I'd ban woke faggots

[Anonymous No.6817960]

>>6817927
>10 minutes
anime helicopter fags are INSANE

[Anonymous No.6817973]

>>6817960
What the fuck are you talking about?

[Anonymous No.6817978]

>>6817909
I was never huge on the artstyle, and within anime & manga there are a lot of tropes that are kind of a turn off to western sensibilities (japan seems to love bro/sis incest for example), and lately it's been very oversaturated.
However, it's popularity is entirely because of western publishers' and producers' incompetence - who knew you could make comics and cartoons about diverse and mature topics? Fucking shocking!

[Anonymous No.6817980]

>>6817922
This
>>6817916
Pyw retard
Even simple anime like Urusei Yatsura will be hard to replicate without being very skilled
>>6817949
>from 2013 to around 2015, if I met someone with an interest in anime I knew we would instantly have a lot in common. The anime fandom felt like an actual community back then,
True, I agree with your whole sentiment
But actual nerdy anime nerds still exist. Just like you said... it would have been better if it always stayed below mainstream
Now too any anime focus on being shiny with great fights but they have shitty dogshit stories or a -weird wacky- isekai premise
Honestly porn art did not cause that, anime are generally less sexual. Show me popular new anime that actually have panty shots, even nosebleeds have been phased out since "random women sexualization bad!"
I just think sticking to drawing old anime that were actually good that people still know and being picky with new anime is a good path.
Meeting other nerds just comes down to meeting others who's top 10 favorites are similar to yours

>>6817950
It is good to not be an echo chamber but this is an anime forum
Too many foggy crabs here reply just to shit on even really good or high potential anime art and it really effected the friendliness and amount of users on the board
I honestly think anons should ask when receiving a horrible weird comment when posting work "do you like anime?" And if the answer is no assume the other person is an angry turbo autist that falls into what >>6817922 said whether it is anime or coom art

[Anonymous No.6817981]

>>6817973
>one of the slowest boards on 4chan
>during peek 4chan dead hours
>make a "shit on anime" post
>within 10 minutes anime helicopter fags are hovering over your post and getting ass blasted slamming f5

every fucking time lmao

[Anonymous No.6817985]

>>6817980
Lol I ain't reading that shit. Tranime is woke crap. Cope.

[Anonymous No.6817989]

>>/6817985
>I have too low of an attention span and am too autistic to read
The intelligence of non-animefags is so beautiful. They are a special people... please be kind to them

[Anonymous No.6817995]

i hate it because i hate anime fans and artists.

[Anonymous No.6818002]

>>6817909
Seriously though, why do Japanese women squeal/moan like pigs in live action porn. Also all the goddamn spit.

[Anonymous No.6818017]

>>6817909
Even from a young have i always thought that anime was all the exact same, same-faced uninspired garbage. And now that i've grown up, i still hold dearly the humble opinion that if it doesn't look different then it isn't different.

also
cunnies >>>>> lolis

[Anonymous No.6818018]

Most people who hate anime are americans, there's your answer. Also westerners can't draw anime for shit and are bitter about it. Asian women look cute too, they do cosplays and shit while in the US all you find these days are men-hating green haired fat women. Actually the list goes on, it boils down to jealously

[Anonymous No.6818019]

>>6817981
>still hasn't figured out that the shitposters make these threads and make the butthurt replies
>15 IPs
>same baity arguments
They don't do this shit on twitter to farm clout like they want to because they'd get blocked by everyone and shadowbanned easily.

[Anonymous No.6818058]

>>6817909
Cus of most of the tards who draw it forget to draw a person with emotions and not these weird plucked chickens with chemicals poured in their eyes. Generally infantile, same-y style and fanbase. Atleast it's been that way for awhile.

[Anonymous No.6818062]

>>6817949
Most manga and anime were primarily cheap entertainment even in the old days. It wasn't until the 1980s when more ambitious and western styled works like Akira, Nausicaa and SDF Macross properly gave things a step up. And even then Japan has never produced a graphic novel revolution, sadly.
There was only a handful of good manga 40 years ago. Even on /a/ you rarely see manga from before the 2000s discussed at all (unless it's shonen-shit or garbage schlock made by someone like Go Nagai). The list of good manga from the 70s and 80s can be counted more sparingly, and West shit was easily outclassing Japanese shit from the majority of the 20th century. This is the truth and you should accept it. I don't have anything against manga though, to me it's just comics all the same, and there definitely is good material from the 70s and 80s (like Lone Wolf and Cub, for example, is far and away the best Japanese manga of the 70s).
Heck, even today the rare good western animation like Arcane or Avatar The Last Airbender is objectively much better written, has better production values and has significantly more artistic merit than the vast majority of anime that came before and after.

The point I'm making here is that America and Europe have both evolved. Europe went from Tintin to Corto Maltese, America went from Superman to Sandman.
Japan is still the same as it ever was though. Where is the Alberto Braccia of Japan? The Alejandro Jodorowsky? The Rick Veitch? The Bernard Kriegstein? The Bill Sienkiewicz? The Bill Watterson? The Guido Crepax? The Jens Harder?
They have nothing but jobbers and hacks in Japan. Their stories are written by committees and drawn by sweatshops.
>>6817980
I will literally never understand weebs who will shit on Cape comics but defend Shounen trash, they are the same type of juvenile garbage.

[Anonymous No.6818063]

>>6818019
Hot pic anon

[Anonymous No.6818072]

This board is nothing but anime what more do you want?

[Anonymous No.6818088]

>>6817912
>empty words that don't address OP's question
ok

[Anonymous No.6818090]

>>6817909
>epic western concept artist shits on anime for being samey and simple
>spent the last 20 years photobashing and rendering the same shitty environments and drawing man faced elf women
>makes sure the texture on wooden table 23 looks super good for inn 7 in generic location 10
>attempts to draw anime to epicly btfo all the animetards
>looks like complete shit
>worse than proko kangaroo attempt

It's just jealousy. At this point the style has cemented itself as a legitimate artform so to say it's worthless/not as good/etc is pure cope from a dying industry.

[Anonymous No.6818092]

>>6818062
>western comics evolved
>industry is dying and nobody reads that shit
>manga consistently outselling and outperforming culturally
Sure Anon...

[Anonymous No.6818097]

Anybody has that picture of the whiny comic loser saying something like 'it's important to remember that manga is for Japanese readers. We're not selling our comics because you keep buying manga' or something like that

[Anonymous No.6818108]

I don't hate anime. If it wasn't for anime I would have killed myself as it's my only outlet. I hate influencers and vtubers. There can no longer have a game that comes out and it's untouched by Twitch streamers who will force memes, clog up the good server names, have their faggot followers follow them around in the game world and not play the game, and then claim the game is "dead" just because they decided they don't want to play it anymore. Influencers decide when a game lives and dies because they said so. And Vtumors is like handing the controller to your stupid younger cousin/relative and watching him not know what controls he's pressing but LOOOK he's super cute playing it, I guess?

[Anonymous No.6818110]

ugh every morning the typos
this is why i need coffee

[Anonymous No.6818111]

if people complain about it or not, do not worry your little head anon, just draw what you like and enjoy

>>6817912
altho rude, this anon is correct and it applies to 99% of blog posting on here

[Anonymous No.6818113]

What would you do if your own work was so inexplicably popular that it spawned literally a million imitators?

[Anonymous No.6818114]

>>6818113
you do know the trend is to create a new post for each dumb question right?
now go on and create a new post for that question like a good retarded boy, girl or circle

[Anonymous No.6818120]

>>6818062
>garbage schlock made by someone like Go Nagai
wtf?!? I'm mostly a classic American comics fan & love Go Nagai
gtfo

[Anonymous No.6818125]

>>6818114
Considering the retards are gathered here already,why not ask that here? It's exactly the description of anime. Who was first? Astroboy? I am an advocate of artists developing their own style and devoutly latching onto any other's counterproductive. So anime remains a mystery.

[Anonymous No.6818131]

>>6818111
ill second this, too many anons focus on these kinds of useless conversations when they should be having fun drawing

[Anonymous No.6818144]

>>6817909
because it's boring and fucking generic

[Anonymous No.6818196]

>>6817909
>Why do so many of you hate anime
The issue is not with anime itself, its with people who primarily aspire to draw, and are only interested in consuming, anime.

Anime encourages satisfaction with a low level of technical skill. Very often they use "style" as a cope to hide general poor drawing ability

Anime encourages bad art education/progression practices. Anime artists have a shallower understanding of art, and lower appreciation of art history. If its not anime girls, they dont care about it.

People who are only interested in drawing anime are more likely to be weird childish annoying if not blatantly autistic.
The guy traveling around drawing nice looking plants he finds along the roadside is probably a much better socially adjusted person than the guy just drawing anime girls

The cannibalistic nature of anime (derivative of a derivative) art leads them to have a shallow understanding and appreciation for art as a whole
If someone wants to paint like Caravaggio , or draw like Durer, they know they''re not going to start by just copying.
They know they'll never reach that level by "just drawing", some education is required to even understand how these artists are utilizing line and value and color and form.
With the anime art community, they eschew education in favor of "just draw" because its easy enough to make something look like anime.
But ur just doing a disservice by closing your mind off to the rest of art education and history. People who draw the best looking anime are just good artists in general.
Just like every genre of music has something to teach about music theory and composition in general. The different eras and styles of art have very important lessons to teach

The "degeneracy is cool if we claim its ironic" and "I have trash taste but haha i cant stop watching garbage isekai anime" ironic weeb culture is annoying

Coomers. Coom is not art, its cringe if your interest in art only extends so far as it can get your cock hard

[Anonymous No.6818198]

>>6818196
Not everyone cares about fine art. Many just want to draw shit they like.

[Anonymous No.6818201]

>>6818196
cont.

Obsession with twitter clout. Most anime artists are super desperate to be popular online, and usually the only idea they have is to copy what other people draw to get popular. More cannibalism

Their work tends to be shallow more often than traditional artist. Traditional art can be boring too, there are boring landscapes and boring figure drawings
But in traditional art, people generally know that any realistic drawing runs the risk of being boring, and even trad artists who dont bother learning composition know that something more needs to be done to make images visually appealing
Anime people more often dont have this because for them "looking like anime" is the end goal

I think anime art actually sucks up a massive amount of artistic talent that could be creating "real art".
There are talented anime artists but their talents are, imo, wasted because all they want to do is draw anime girls for twitter likes.
They're addicted to it, its sad. You see so many of them get blatantly lazier over time.

I think anime artists are currently the group of artists furthest away from "understanding art".
Its basically symbol drawing all over again, Ancient Egyptian art but a modern flavor.
They're not trying to expirience anything in reality, and develop their ability to convey that expirience and feeling on a canvas.
They're just trying to redraw the same shapes and symbols they saw on tv.

[Anonymous No.6818205]

>>6818201
>>6818196
Didn't read
still agreed

[Anonymous No.6818207]

>>6818201
Also, im not shitting on anime itself
Just like any other art movement, anime has important things to teach us all about art

It teaches us about the extents of simplification and exaggeration of form
It teaches us about the range of acceptable facial proportions/expressions
It has a lot to teach about the concept of "appeal". Theres clearly a reason so many people are so attracted to anime, on an abstract level, something about the way it depicts form is incredibly appealing even though its not realistic at all

But i think thats it.
If anybody else has anything they think anime art can teach about art as a whole, let me know.
But theres so much more to art than those 3 things. I think you should learn anime, so that you can apply these concepts to broader art in general.

[Anonymous No.6818212]

>>6818196
pyw so I can see what all this navel gazing leads to

[Anonymous No.6818214]

>>6818062
>Japan has never produced a graphic novel
lol, that's a marketing term for COMICS evented by the western publishing industry since they knew comics means gawdy looking capeshit aimed at young children, in Japan manga is aimed at multiple customer segments without needing to pretentiously rebrand it

[Anonymous No.6818215]

>>6817909
anime killed my family

[Anonymous No.6818226]

>>6818212
Fine. Here, weebfag

[Anonymous No.6818229]

>>6818226

Cute. Now post your actual work, faggot.

[Anonymous No.6818232]

>>6817909
I'm a 30 years old virgin because of anime

[Anonymous No.6818233]

>>6817950
Lmao Touch grass. This board is full of weebs. In the real world, the % of people that dislike this degenerate shit is much bigger.

[Anonymous No.6818240]

I loved anime as a teenager. Even if it doesn't move me the same way it did back then, I blame it on me becoming a lame fuck instead of the medium itself changing

[Anonymous No.6818241]

>>6817922
>They are jealous of anime's popularity
Ive always wondered if people who say things like this, "You only do x because ur jealous" are actually retarded enough to really think thats why, or if they're just being disingenuous
Im realizing recently that the average person is actually so stupid, they might actually believe all the retarded shit that comes out of their mouth.
Before, i assumed they knew better and were just intentionally saying something to be inflammatory

[Anonymous No.6818242]

>>6818196
>>6818201
>>6818207
Based

[Anonymous No.6818246]

>>6817909
Literally the next thread over

[Anonymous No.6818248]

>>6818246
forgot link
>>>6817463

[Anonymous No.6818285]

This kinda of discussion only happens here because the majority of the anons (the weebs) actually hate art and anything related to it. Most non-retarded human beings engage with art in order to experience the sublime, which has to do with greatness, delayed gratification and being rewarded by your hard work. It's also related to meaning and, in some level, to truth. Comercial Anime, similar to any comercial art, is devoided of that. It's oversimplified, and easier to digest and to reproduce if you don't have a lot of skill. Obviously, it doesn't mean you shouldn't consume or draw anime. It has its function as well, and eventually numbing your brain and seeking for instant gratification is acceptable. The issue is that when that's all you consume, you become a manchild, exactly like people who only watch superhero movies or spend the whole day playing videogames. You become lazy and dumb. Btw, anime gets so much hate because it's all you post about. It's overepresented. If this board was full of people posting superhero comics all day, it would get the hate instead. Also, this stupid argument about how "they hate anime because it's popular" makes it very clear how anime is the degenerate version of marvel movies and harry potter books. Lastly, just to clarify, there is great anime, and some even seeks to be sublime. It's not the case of the overwhelming majority of anime you draw and post here, and I'm not even talking about the retarded coomer shit.

[Anonymous No.6818289]

>>6818285
>just stop being a manchild
>just man up and marry Bonnie and her 2 kids down the street put down the video games and stop trying to find your own happiness
Did you turn down the wrong street from google search? Reddit is a few blocks up.

[Anonymous No.6818297]

>>6818285
I didn't read a goddamn word of this

[Anonymous No.6818298]

>>6818289
Oh so this is what people mean when they keep telling me "this is an anime board tho"
I only use ic and thought it was just an art community, but I guess the whole site is just fundamentally about that culture and any sub boards are just in the context of that culture?
That explains a lot actually

[Anonymous No.6818301]

>>6818298
Anime site. Always has and will be.

[Anonymous No.6818305]

6818285
>muh weebs
didn't read

[Anonymous No.6818312]

>>6818298
Epic troll, Anon.

[Anonymous No.6818332]

>>6818289
Compulsively engaging in the repetitive seek for instant gratification isn't happiness, anon. It's pure death drive. You may think you're living the life, but I guarantee you're actually suffering.

[Anonymous No.6818338]

>People create art in a style I don't like instead of the one I like
>It's le death of art!

[Anonymous No.6818352]

90% of everything is shit, right?
I don't hate anime, I grew up on it and it's been a primary influence in my art, maybe the single largest influence. But I don't want to draw it as such, meaning the mass culture popular style of it.
Pic related is an illustration by Take, an "anime" artist who actually has an ounce of originality in him. You would never guess this is gachaslop, yet it is, and it's also conventionally appealing and attractive in many ways. Who knew that combination of traits was possible? Not weebs.
Just stop being such colossal mongoloid faggots and take a little inspiration outside your narrow bubble of seasonal coom, and maybe the stray Bouguereau painting. Contrary to /a/'s opinion it's not admirable to watch just any trash just to fill out your MAL list.
You'd all probably progress much more rapidly artistically if you thought broadly about the concept of moe/cuteness. The French have some ideas, start there

[Anonymous No.6818436]

>>6818196
>Why do so many of you hate sport cars

The issue is not with sport cars themselves, it's with people who primarily aspire to drive, and are only interested in consuming regular cars.

Sport cars encourage a superior level of performance and engineering. Very often they use "engineering" as a way to hide general lack of interest in regular car features.

Sport cars encourage bad driving habits and misconceptions about vehicle safety. Sport car enthusiasts have a shallower understanding of practical driving, and lower appreciation for the safety features present in regular cars. If it's not about speed and performance, they don't seem to care about it.

People who are only interested in driving sport cars are more likely to be seen as reckless and impractical. The person who enjoys a leisurely drive around town in a regular car is probably a much more practical and safety-conscious driver than the person pushing the limits in a sport car.

The narrow focus on sport cars (often ignoring practical aspects of regular cars) leads to a lack of understanding and appreciation for the benefits of everyday vehicles. If someone wants to truly understand the nuances of driving in various conditions, they know they won't achieve that by solely driving high-performance vehicles. Understanding fuel efficiency, comfort, and safety features requires acknowledging the value of regular cars.

Within the sport car community, they seem to reject the broader understanding of everyday driving and practical vehicle features, favoring the allure of high-speed and high-performance vehicles. While sport cars have their merits, dismissing regular cars entirely can hinder one's appreciation for the full spectrum of driving experiences.

The "glamorizing speed and performance while ignoring practicality is trendy if labeled ironic" and "I have an insatiable need for speed, but can't seem to appreciate the benefits of everyday cars" ironic car enthusiast culture is concerning.

[Anonymous No.6818482]

>>6818436
nice

[Anonymous No.6818488]

>>6818436
this is an impressive level of retarded

[Anonymous No.6818491]

>>6818436
This type of response has to be one of the lowest, most pathetic forms of rhetoric possible.
You will never find any intelligent respectable person ever try to argue like this
Just be the fact that you are trying to use this as an argument shows you are wrong, regardless of what you're trying to say

[Anonymous No.6818500]

>>6818436
>t.

[Anonymous No.6818502]

>>6818436
t.

[Anonymous No.6818504]

>>6818436
kek

[Anonymous No.6818944]

Is this anime? It's manga right? What even are the differences? Modern manga just looks like anime, pic related is just an older style right?

[Anonymous No.6819036]

>>6817909
they've ben indoctrinated by jewish media to hate it

[Anonymous No.6819047]

>>6818488
>>6818491
>>6818500
found the tranny autists

[Anonymous No.6819076]

>>6818297
how can eastoids compete....

[Anonymous No.6819187]

A lot of anime styles don't really inspire me... I like kind of "cartoony" looking japanese art though. It's cute.

[Anonymous No.6819288]

I enjoy looking at anime pictures other people have drawn but I have close to zero interest in watching any of the shows or drawing animes myself.

[Anonymous No.6819297]

these faggots hate it because they struggle to draw it

[Anonymous No.6819370]

I'm just bored of it, personally. Shit is everywhere, it's not "cool" to me anymore.

[Anonymous No.6819378]

>>6819036
Poor Ben...

[Anonymous No.6819385]

>>6818944
Are you serious? Anime are jap cartoons and manga are jap comics. However there are way more manga then anime so you're naturally gonna get more variety in styles.

[Anonymous No.6819423]

I think a lot of it actually has to do with the fact that anime is so dogshit these days. There's like 30 shows airing per season but maybe a handful actually worth watching every year which is a lot of junk to sift through.

[Anonymous No.6819490]

>>6817912
I lean into the style because it's easier and takes less skill than drawing actual realistic art styles

[Anonymous No.6819937]

>>6817949
>pathetic fuck watching anime only to make friends
Anime is not your social crutch, retarded fuck, just kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.6819991]

>>6817909
Because they have no personality, so the only thing they can come up with is being contrarians so they can claim they're QQUIIIRRRRRRRRKY and UNIQUE.

[Anonymous No.6819998]

Bceause anime fans have no personality beyond being an anime fan, so they become obssesed, and any attack on their souless animes is an attack on them

[Anonymous No.6820004]

>>6819998
tsmt

[Anonymous No.6821070]

It’s always a bit weird to me when people say they can’t stand anime, because I’m pretty sure what most people are actually saying is that they just can’t stand generic shonen or isekai/ecchi/haremshit anime that get churned out on a basis, which is understandable. Otherwise, unless you hate animation in general, anime is just like normal shows/movies but animated. There are dramas, comedies, horror, science fiction, slice of life, mystery and all kinds of other shows hidden under the surface of the mass amounts of tropey shit that a lot of people seem to think all anime is like.

I don't know. It just seems like a weird blanket statement to make unless, like I said, you have a specific aversion to anything animated or just stylized/cartoony in general, but at that point you probably wouldn’t be on this board either.

[Anonymous No.6821097]

>>6821070
"I hate anime" is just the oldest bait in the book.
It's guaranteed replies from weebs and tourists.
On twitter they post this shit all the time to farm engagement.

[Anonymous No.6821317]

>>6817912
I'm surprised to see people say this. As if watching and liking anime was some sort of challenge you had to accomplish or as if anime-fan was a title to be earned.

[Anonymous No.6821322]

>>6821070
I'm an ex-anime hater. I can confidently say hatred for anime is nothing more than contrarianism and annoying fanbases. I didn't want to be apart of the group and be the same as everyone else.

I still hate generic isekai/echhi/haremshit but I'd never group something like angel's egg in with it.

[Anonymous No.6823877]

Bumpin

[Anonymous No.6824315]

>>6818352
I see female hands I coom

[Anonymous No.6824397]

>>6819370
Yeah pretty much this. Kinda feels like I've outgrown anime in a way.

[Anonymous No.6824540]

>>6817909
Oversaturation
We need a new style

Also weebs are the obnoxious demographic of butthurt faggots that has ever existed

[Anonymous No.6824873]

how do I reach this level of coom?

[Anonymous No.6825540]

>>6818062
>Neil Gayman
Incredible bait

[Anonymous No.6825545]

>>6818062
>The point I'm making here
The point you're making is that you don't read manga or evidentially most comics since your examples are extremely surface level

[Anonymous No.6827186]

>>6818018
The reason why americans are salty about anime has to do with japanese stuff just being more popular than american cartoons and comics those days in almost everywhere else but the west. Even if you used the most popular current shows out of the cartoon industry, most people outside of the west would know fuck-all about them and likely wouldn't be fans.
If you tried to talk to a Chinese person about Owl House they'd look at you like you have 3 heads, yet Spy X Family is HUGE in China.

The reason anime isn't as easily-banned in places like China, the Middle East, Eastern Europe, etc. etc., even when those places DO ban certain American cartoons is because a lot of the younger generations in those places are giant fucking weebs who really like anime.
Anime those days just has more international appeal.
You can find a weeb on all corners of the planet, but you're unlikely to find a western cartoon fan in somewhere like the UAE.

[Anonymous No.6828667]

Because they are small-minded. For my part, I do not distinguish between anime and western, but between artists/art that I like or not.
Who calls himself an artist and evaluates art not according to its content but genre is a pretty poor bastard.

[Anonymous No.6829475]

niggas will say "it's an anime site" like there's no difference between these two

[Anonymous No.6829490]

It makes me live in fear of my style evolving badly by catching bad habits from the generic moe ones.

[Anonymous No.6829500]

>>6817909
Animefaggots are the most obnoxious queers I've met in my entire life (most of which I've spent online).
There's something about anime that attracts Narcissistic Troons like no other, its unbeliable, like flies to a shit.

[Anonymous No.6829512]

>>6829475
I see 2 males

[Anonymous No.6829525]

>>6829475
Onimai makes me feel things in my pants. Cowboy Bebop does too (Faye, Ed, the cowgirl TV show lady). The latter's worse because I can't fap to the tranny whereas Mahiro is biologically female (male (female (male))). They're literally the same show save for that last point.

[Anonymous No.6829528]

>>6817916
>Anime is very low level art
stopped reading there. show work i bet it's abysmal

[Anonymous No.6829532]

>>6818062
is that a picture from the sandman? I read that, the story was good but the art was absolute dog shit. the standard of art in wetern comics barely scratches the competency levels of the top manga. i don't know how people delude themselves into this

[Anonymous No.6829540]

>>6829525
What's she looking at here, I thought her focus was on those breasts?

[Anonymous No.6829545]

>>6829540
She lost focus on the breasts because the urge to piss herself was overwhelming her for a second. It's totally what happened, trust me.

[Anonymous No.6829570]

>>6829545
>pic

[Anonymous No.6829571]

>>6829475
the first is one of the best stories ever told by mankind with characters, setting and an exceptional plot, the second is the paedophile fantasy of a fat virgin man who wishes to one day wake up and have become a girl and who surely if he is not already a trannie he is one step away from becoming one.

[Anonymous No.6829573]

>>6829571
>the first is one of the best stories ever told by mankind with characters
>>>/a/

[Anonymous No.6829577]

>>6829573
go watch marvel movies tard, also anime website

[Anonymous No.6829580]

>>6829577
Let me try that again.
>>>/a/

[Anonymous No.6829582]

>>6829580
Let me try again, go watch marvel movies retard

[Anonymous No.6829589]

>>6829582
You are just as bad as a capeshit fanatic, go back to your kind.

[Anonymous No.6829597]

>>6829589
nah, you are so retarded that you think that all anime is bad because 99% of anime is trash just like comics, but there are stories that are some of the best that mankind could have created, I might think that the whole movie industry is trash because of shitty movies like marvel, or trash like spiderverse just like the series industry, but I am not as stupid and retarded as you are

[Anonymous No.6829600]

>>6829525
we will never get more of this masterpiece and this deeply disturbs me

[Anonymous No.6829614]

>>6818436
is there like, a reference im missing for why anons thinks this is based/funny ?

[Anonymous No.6829670]

The anime style was born out of a necessity to mass produce cheap crap during the post WW2 era.
The classical Disney style that inspired the original japanese animation industry was itself inspired from old story book styles from the early 1900s. It's style also developed from technical limitations of animation. Lots of frames need to be drawn so the Disney style naturally took on a very flat and graphic approach.
Early Jap animation is just shittier, lower cost Disney.
It has no origins in any sort of academic art. The west is single-handedly responsible for the proliferation of actual professional artistry due to the increase of actual visual art academia.
What you're left with is an entire art field that has almost nothing to do with traditional artistry and is basically just mass produces spastic crap.
The anime industry, as well as the consumer base, is filled with individuals who don't care about art, art history, or really much of anything aside from just mindlessly gorging themselves on the equivalent of "McDonalds cheeseburger" art.
The spreading of the anime style into general popular culture is the biggest sin to art in general since it has completely overshadowed actual interesting styles. It's fucking everywhere and I'm sick of it. I'm just sort of ambivalent towards it otherwise.

[Anonymous No.6829678]

>>6829670
americope. american art has stagnated and become mcdonaldified whereas japan and to a lesser extend, europe have kept it alive and refined it

[Anonymous No.6829703]

>>6829678
>to a lesser extend
>extend

[Anonymous No.6829708]

>>6829614
No, he's just a retard forcing a terrible analogy.

[Anonymous No.6829721]

>>6829703
There's no real point in arguing with him.
It's like having an argument about food with someone who drinks their own piss.

[Anonymous No.6829737]

>>6829703
>minor typo
>argument btfo
wow well done dude

[Anonymous No.6829764]

>>6829721
Don't worry, I never seriously engage with any post that has obvious spelling/grammatical mistakes.

[Anonymous No.6830081]

>>6829525
The girl in the middle is a tomgirl or a flatty?

[Anonymous No.6830083]

>>6829580
thanks I understand now. sorry for the bother

[Anonymous No.6830090]

>>6830083
shut the fuck up lil nigga

[Anonymous No.6830100]

>>6817949
Monster is great but books satisfy that appetite for meaning and social commentary and give you more space to think. Honestly, it's actually quite immature to me to want le deep think from anime when it's supposed to be dumb fun most of the time. It's like trying to get good nutrition out of fast food. They all have their place and there have been a lot of stinkers out there in recent years but there were a lot of bland garbage in every decade. Just sample until you find something good like in every era.

[Anonymous No.6830358]

>>6830081
genderbent guy

[Anonymous No.6830455]

>>6818214
>>6818214
Well, about that...
>“Gekiga (劇画) is Japanese for “dramatic pictures”. The term was coined by Yoshihiro Tatsumi and adopted by other more serious Japanese cartoonists who did not want their trade to be known as manga or “whimsical pictures”. It is akin to Americans who started using the term “graphic novel” as opposed to “comic book“.”
https://wavemotioncannon.com/2019/10/17/gekiga/

[Anonymous No.6830489]

>>6818215
They deserved it

[Anonymous No.6830558]

>>6829670
you have to be 18 or older to post here

[Anonymous No.6830610]

>>6817909
As a person, I hate that style because weebs keep pleading special case when anime is just a style of art. It's obnoxious.

As an artist, I find it uninteresting, because I've yet to meet an anime artist with worthwhile ideas. This is because the mind of the weeb is set on imitation and end goal instead of artistic journey and discovery.(On a different point,) in this, they are more similar to furries than not, who also get into art with an end goal in mind, ending up artistically stunted.

[Anonymous No.6830626]

>>6830610
I'd love to see your work friend

[Anonymous No.6830750]

repetitive hyperneotenous slop
always super fixated on women
i hate women

[Anonymous No.6830772]

What are considered the best current day anime/manga that aren't shonen slop or shit like that btw? I like stuff like Made In Abyss and Little Witch Academia but I find overhyped mainstream stuff like Jujutsu Kaisen and Demon Slayer to be extremely shallow in general.

[Anonymous No.6830774]

>>6818017
Harriet is made for fat old balding indian men

[Anonymous No.6831062]

>>6830610
>they are more similar to furries than not
I've always felt this but the words never came to my mind. That makes a lot of sense.

[Anonymous No.6831098]

>>6829528
Hell hath no fury, like a tranime retard scorned.

Honestly, want to post my work just so I can see yours, but I know you will never post it projector-kun.

[Anonymous No.6831108]

>>6817916
beglet pyw

[Anonymous No.6831127]

>>6831098
You won't post your work because you can't draw and your comments prove it.

[Anonymous No.6831245]

>>6831127
You won't post your work because you can't draw and your comments prove it.

[Anonymous No.6831435]

>>6818436
familiabros...

[Anonymous No.6831445]

>>6830455
sounds like it fizzled out and become a genre of manga

[Anonymous No.6832026]

>>6831445
Gekiga and manga were always closer to each other than capeshit and "graphic novels" are.

[Anonymous No.6832450]

https://itest.5ch.net/medaka/test/read.cgi/cartoon/1525956054
Even in Japan they have East vs. West threads.
Wtf....

[Anonymous No.6832462]

>>6831127
>>6831245
Get a room faggots

[Anonymous No.6833343]

>>6817985
It's okay, we know that you've been reading either berserk or Jojo or maybe even both!

[Anonymous No.6834625]

>>6817909
It's a mine set in the us that needs to fucking die. Get the fuck over WW2 most of you fuckers wasn't even alive.

[Anonymous No.6834629]

>>6834625
It's fucking ugly and gross this hate to the Japanese people. The Japanese people have more respect for western art then most faggots in the west now days.

[Anonymous No.6834639]

>>6832450
>EVEN in Japan
WOW, IT CANNOT BE REAL

[Anonymous No.6834818]

its very schematic, no imagination. this is why AI does it so good

[Anonymous No.6834841]

>>6818062
There's japanese equivalents to those artists you mention, but you'll never find out about them because you're not japanese. They don't have to or even want to appeal to you.

[Anonymous No.6835427]

>>6817909
I just dislike moeblobs because they look retarded.

[Anonymous No.6835430]

>>6817916
>Pic rel
Huh. That explains why card captor Sakura looks so fucked up

[Anonymous No.6835442]

>>6817909
It's less "anime" and more the cunts that can't not force it down other people's throats.

[Anonymous No.6835443]

>>6817916
>pic
The post that buck broke /ic/

[Anonymous No.6835455]

>>6817909

Too oversaturated. Used to be western artists mostly drew like westerners and japs drew like japs; artists like Adam Warren were a novelty. Now it's like the anime style is the gray goo of the art world, it self replicates to the point it's everywhere, Europeans drawing in the anime style, Americans drawing in the anime style and Japs drawing in the anime style and it's gotten a little boring.

[Anonymous No.6835457]

>>6817949
"fandom" "community" "something special"
you're a faggot without even realising it

[Anonymous No.6835519]

>>6817909
It's really easy to explain
>/ic/ is garbage board
>new generation of 14-20 years old kids born after 00s is pushing anti-sex, anti-porn, anti-anime agenda that never existed on 4chan before 2019 (cumbrain/coombrain, tranime, porn addict spam)
>kids in their pseud phase or edgy phase
>adults (low rarity encounter) in permanent pseud phase or edgy phase
>schizos
Anon who is seething about anime should draw something right? Just think about it and laugh. At best it will be delusional trad pseud who paint amateur trash (never listen /ic/ tradkeks) at worst nodraw.

[Anonymous No.6835529]

https://discord.gg/ePjJDB4A9M

[Anonymous No.6835530]

>>6817909
Because of the fans