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What morally justifies your journey in laying claim to artistic excellence? What do you do for the sake of the creator of heaven and earth? Do you humble yourself by intentionally making an error or do you intend to inspire higher conciousness of him? Do you seek his blessings or are you negligient and disobient to his commands? Do you say a prayer before every drawing project, do you use your art for socialising amid godfearing peers? Do you draw scenes out of the three holy books (Torah, Bible or Quran) to illustrate and magnify your reading of the holy script. Do you market your art and ascribe all credit to him? Do you wish to show your art to your children and show them your love of the most high in each piece? Can you sacrifice your art for him by quitting and pursuing more lofty goals? If not. It is never to late to plant the holy seed.

>> No.6817312

>>6817306
Can someone read this for me and give me a tl,tr version?
I'm interested but I'm not reading all that shit

>> No.6817321

Normally I love this vibe but you sound like a bot, t b h.

>> No.6817323
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I don't feel I owe anything to God until he comes down and cleans up his mess

>> No.6817328
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Great christian art thread?

>> No.6817334

>>6817306
>Do you draw scenes out of the three holy books (Torah, Bible or Quran) to illustrate and magnify your reading of the holy script.
Every one of those books tells you not to fucking do that. People are so imbecilic, it's baffling, this isn't like some sexual urge or addiction that you have a hard time stopping. This is literally you going "hey, I'm going to draw God even though he told me not to. Do I know what God looks like? No. Do I have any idea what god would look like? No. I guess I'll just draw a human. I'm sure God would be proud of my depiction of him."
Great, you just created an idol. Congratulations, retards. Literally one of gods least favorite things is when humans anthropomorphize heavenly things. You're not supposed to know what they look like and anthropomorphic art of that stuff defeats the whole purpose of not knowing. Gods infinite, he says in the bible "for if you see my face, you will surely die", because you wonuld see all things in and out of existence at once. I'm not responding to any comments, tell it to God. If you believe then you're fucking up royally by doing this shit!

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>>6817306
>Muh morals

>> No.6817344

>>6817335
The scorpion does have morals, just savory ones. If you're brain is so devoid of function that you see morals as some kind of joke, then you are the joke.

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>>6817334
tl:dr lets not do anything ever.

>> No.6817348

>>6817344
*Unsavory
*Your

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I'm pretty sure I have autism. I'm waiting on a diagnosis but its making it difficult to draw faces (Autistic people have a hard time picturing faces)
>try to imagine face after focusing on building my visual library of them for years
>literally nothing, empty void
>try to imagine landscapes or backgrounds after practising them for maybe 6 months
>clear as day
>even get a few likes from netflix background artists
Is this an autism thing or are faces really that hard to draw?

>inb4 pyw
>inb4 OP cant inb4

Anyone else have autism struggles?

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>>6817334
What do you think of these artistic rules:
1. Do not make images of god, other gods or prophets.
2. Do not make images of men or animals which look lively or realistic;
3. Do not makes images which are immoral, obscene or violent;

This solves your (and my) issue with anthropo..antropo..antrphomorization. f* it. i give up. but yeah, perhaps blur out peoples faces or lean heavily towards abstractions using geometric or symbolic forms. Always draw covered people with clothes, jewlery or accessories.

>>6817346
Without rules I fear God will be angry because you didn't consider him. So, god will grant you the fruit of your labour, but he will not bless it and thus your artistic journey will be accompanied by all manner of vice or evil. I think people should do work in the light of God, doesn't matter if you're a carpenter, an engineer, a garbage collector or just a hobbyist. Just ask for guidance.

>>6817328
It is not the main topic of this thread so we're not off to a good start, but why don't you make one? I'd contribute a few pictures for sure, anon.

>> No.6817380

>>6817321
*bleep boop*

>> No.6817454

>>6817306
Are you the retard that became a christfag because he was jerking off to hentai.
we already told you nobody gives a shit about your nonsense go take your pills or kill yourself, keep your Chatgpt tier posts to yourself you fucking waste of air mongoloid.

>> No.6818622

Bump. God please be mercifull on us.

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>>6818622
name ten commandments

>> No.6818779

>>6818638
> What is google?

>> No.6818786

>>6818779
>>6818622
A tool of satan. You brought the name of God, but you don't know anything about him and his word. If you check the tool of satan to "remind" you about God's commandments The Lord will know, he sees everything. You can't lie to him.

>> No.6818812 [DELETED] 

>>6818786
Wtf is this schizo rambling. What tool? What reminder? What level of demonic possession is this. Begone Dr. Shekkelstein. The power of garlic compells you!

>> No.6818821

>>6817306
The creator created us in his image, so, we are creators by default, therefore I feel obliged to create and use my creativity as the creator has created us with.

>> No.6818822

>>6817306
if God(Yahweh) didn't want me to draw, why did he bless me with the ligameme?

>> No.6818826

>>6818812
Recite now a passage from the Bible without using the tool of satan to remind you. If you cheat, the lord will know.
Let's see who's possessed by demons. The book of the lord compells you.

>> No.6818831

>>6817306
If God wanted me to make it why didn’t he roll me as Japanese or South Korean?

>> No.6818836

>>6818826
Why do you consider a search engine a tool of satan but 4chins not? I don't get it. That said, I don't know but the lord resides in the heart and inspires me with faith.

>>6818821
Okay, go ahead. God must be nodding to every word you wrote.

>> No.6818839

>>6817306
I accepted drawing is my destiny, running away from it brought me nothing but ruin. Not sure if God wants me to draw loli porn though.

>> No.6818841

>>6818831
He gave you a greater challenge, to bring beauty to a society that makes a whole culture out of ugliness and "total unlabelled ab$olute freedom"

>> No.6818844

>>6818836
>That said, I don't know but the lord resides in the heart and inspires me with faith
That's a enlightened answer and affirmation. The lord is with you anon. Have a Bible always at hand. Written words on print can't be changed at will. Here We are in the virtual world of satan, everything is deceiving the truth is not here when is relative and "editable".

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>>6817306
God’s Wrath lies in his infinite forgiveness. God is childlike, he forgives transgressions as easily as a child does, and therein lies the hellish fate awaiting sinners.

Remember, the opposite of love is not hate, it is indifference. No matter how you beg and plead our Creator he will forgive all your sins. No crime is too great for his love to overcome. You will shake in his presence, the way a sinful adult shakes in the presence of a child that still loves them despite their shortcomings. You will cry and gnash your teeth that you ever thought love like this couldn’t exist. That you blamed someone so innocent for all the wrongs you did in your own life with your own free will.

God is Love. Fear him.

>> No.6819089 [DELETED] 

>>6818956
> You will cry and gnash your teeth that you ever thought love like this couldn’t exist. That you blamed someone so innocent for all the wrongs you did in your own life with your own free will.
Thanks for responding anon. You really lifted the thread up.

>> No.6822151

>>6817306
who painted that?

>> No.6822166

>>6822151
God himself

>> No.6822237

>>6817334
>Do I have any idea what god would look like?
What? We can't have fun imagining what god would feasibly look like? We can't make visual symbols or metaphors to represent god?
Secondly, we have a very vague idea of what god supposedly looks like - we were made in his image no?
Thirdly, just because you make a religious painting, doesn't mean that you're painting god. A painting of Noah's Ark isn't a painting of god, a painting of Mary and Joseph travelling to Bethlehem isn't a painting of god, a painting of someone praying isn't a painting of god.

Stop being silly and pedantic.

Finally, it's been a long artistic tradition, though mostly given up, to make a piece of work so great it's dedicated to heaven and god (anyone remember the actual name/term for this?). Why shouldn't some aspire to create such pieces?

>> No.6822269

>>6817306
americans were a mistake

>> No.6823633

>>6817306
>What morally justifies your journey in laying claim to artistic excellence?
People ask what's the secret, then I lean in intently, then say "There is no secret. All that is good belongs to Christ who strengthens me."
>What do you do for the sake of the creator of heaven and earth?
Unceasing prayer, and keeping the commandments. Simple as.
>Do you humble yourself by intentionally making an error or do you intend to inspire higher conciousness of him?
I don't sin intentionally, I just sin eventually.
>Do you seek his blessings or are you negligient and disobient to his commands?
I seek blessings for others and mercy for myself, the worst of sinners.
>Do you say a prayer before every drawing project, do you use your art for socialising amid godfearing peers?
Before, during, and after. I have no peers, I am the worst sinner.
>Do you draw scenes out of the three holy books (Torah, Bible or Quran) to illustrate and magnify your reading of the holy script.
No, that's idolatry.
>Do you market your art and ascribe all credit to him?
Market, no. Credit, yeah.
>Do you wish to show your art to your children and show them your love of the most high in each piece?
Having children in a fallen world seems deeply irresponsible. I don't interact with them.
>Can you sacrifice your art for him by quitting and pursuing more lofty goals?
Art is what I do for money. I am a layperson. I have no higher ambition, I pray and pay bills.

>> No.6823691

>>6823633
Sounds like Protestant Naturalism draws the line at procreative sex, in violation of the very first chapter of the very first book of the Bible. How is that form of Naturalism less idolatrous than visualizing Biblical scenes?

>> No.6823724

>Protestants demand to read the Bible
>they refuse to visualize what they read in the Bible
This doesn't make sense to me. How can you have one without the other? It's like someone who compulsively reads books claiming that they can't shop for clothing, like they're admitting they're too stupid to read labels on pants and sweaters unless it's structured in paragraph form. It's one thing if the pope is going to bless your sculpture, but how many people will pray to your drawing or painting? Your idols come in the form of your denominations.

>> No.6824274

>>6817306
Talk is cheap; actions are louder than words.

Where are your high-grade, inspired drawings amd paintings OP? Don't you think you'd be more striking by showing the way?

Less talk, more practice. "Just draw" still applies to little baby faither.

>> No.6824314

>>6817306
God imbued me with the desire to draw but not the desire to draw religious imagery so I paint women with fat throbbing cocks instead.

>> No.6824322

>>6824314
God bless you brother

>> No.6824330

>>6823724
Puritanical moralists do not know what they are talking about and do not have imagination. They make up morality based on what they feeling in the moment. Banning violent video games, banning pen and paper RPGs because after all if you murder people in a game then you are murdering people in your heart and that is the same as actual murder just like how if you feel attraction to a person that means you have committed a sin of Lust in your heart and that is exactly the same as fucking STD ridden whores and so on.

They do not know what they are reacting to and have no real standards.

>> No.6824378

>>6824330
They're not really different than people here, in the sense that they simply have an extremely polarized understanding of good/bad.

Look at most of the discussions on this board:
> anime is best you dumbfuckers
> digital is best you twits
> trad is all there is you nutfucks
> AI will save us all
> AI will kill us all
> abstract art sucks ass
> abstract art is so smart you can't fathom its magnificience
> religious people suck dicks in hell
> irreligious people are going to be damned forever

No nuances, brutally disrespectful of others points of view.
That's just human nature, but expressing itself in different settings. It's been like that for a while now.

>> No.6827084

>>6824378
That's just 4chan in general to be contrarian regardless of anything
>and people in general

>> No.6827272

>>6827084
I think the problem with Internet at large is that people dont face direct consequences for being dicks, so they think it's okay. And there'a kind of an emphasis on the dick culture here, comforted by pure anonymity and troll culture.

So any topic/point of view will always attract dicks. They furthemore tend to be very loud. Whil measured people are more polite and discrete (aka well-behaved).

Tl;dr dicks. Dicks everywhere

>> No.6827339

>>6817312
uninstall tiktok

>> No.6828158

>>6817306
Colossians 3:23
Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for human masters.

1 Thessalonians 4:11
and to make it your ambition to lead a quiet life: You should mind your own business and work with your hands, just as we told you

God wants you to enjoy what life you have and to work a humble life. You don't have to justify anything. Only thing God wants is for you to not let your work consume you to a point it destroys you or becomes your idol, or you think its for the greater good or greater than God.

Put God first.

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>>6828158
draw as if drawing in the sand by the sea. Let it the creativity flow out and be washed away. Kinda like those monks do with those sand Mandalas. They work diligently on them only for it to be washed away. Not becoming attached and letting it go away.
Lao Tzu understood writing the Tao would do it a disservice, because you can't encapsulate the universe, or God, in a box.

>> No.6828186

>>6828180
Also, one thing to learn from these creations, like the creator, is that while they are washed away and lost forever in a material sense, is that these creations are always inside you. You remember it, Forever and infinite. Like God, who can always bring more to the physical realm.
People in tornado alley or after hurricanes and such, know they can rebuild, because as the bible says.
Matthew 6:20

But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moths and vermin do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal

What you know can always rebuild the world around you, but only the lord can rebuild life. Which is why you keep seeing in movies and people say the phrase over and over again "Things can be replaced, people can not."

Work, but don't get attached to it. It's not a big deal, be happy you can make more.

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Ultimately I'd like to write a comic that brings people to Christ, but in a subversive way, or rather, without preaching too hard. I want to be able to tell a story without people even realizing that the core values are in fact christian. Nausicaa and Bloodborne both did this. Tolkien too.


>>6817323
this is honestly a decent take, but anon, please remember that God made you in his image, and like so, we must emulate Christ. Do this and things will get better.
>"we can't expect God to do all the work".

>> No.6829299

>>6817306
>Do you humble yourself by intentionally making an error
That's some peak arrogance.

>> No.6829658

>>6829268
>Ultimately I'd like to write a comic
Post your sketches

I mean, don't you guys want to show us the way? Behaving like most 4chan users who make a few spaghetti doodles twice a month isn't really how you'll inspire anyone.

I'll probably critique if you do.

>> No.6829666

Hey bros, did any of you found god yet?

>> No.6829818
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Alphonse Mucha kicks ass.

>> No.6829847

>>6817306
I am God reborn and need to save you from the kike menace through art.

>> No.6829879

>>6829268
>the core values are in fact christian
>Nausicaa
yeah I'm sure Miyazaki "Old Thing Good New Thing Bad" Hayao was advocating for foreign Christianity and not elements of his own culture

>> No.6832221 [DELETED] 

>>6829666
Do you always have to ruin the mood, Satan?