Isayama's art progress scares the fuck out of me ngl

[Anonymous No.6798264]

How come 15 years spent drawing so constantly yet he just went from utter shit to barely mediocre and still unappealing when it comes to drawing everything that isn't a titan? It scares me because I could also end up like him in terms of overall prpgress if I fuck up somewhere.

[Anonymous No.6798274]

>>6798264
>How come 15 years spent tracing

[Anonymous No.6798306]

>>6798264
Oh anon, I've had this fear many times. I'll ask you something. Can you spot problems in your own art?

[Anonymous No.6798339]

Don't feel so bad
Remember: he started shit. Now he produces shit with assistants lmao

[Anonymous No.6798400]

>>6798306
alright anon, since your just posted mindless bitching and abandoned this thread, I'll just leave this here for any fag who might have the same fear.
If you can see the flaws in your own art AND you are actively willing to change and fix those flaws, then you will more than likely be able to avoid the trap of stagnation. There, that's it. As always, OP is a faggot.

[Anonymous No.6798422]

>>6798264
Don't go professional with your art until you think it's ready or you can get caught in the trap of always needing to meet deadlines and get projects done as fast as possible. You see that all the time with internet artists except they're not even getting paid. They go viral, get an audience and now the feel the need to always please that audience and never reciprocal and grow. The flip side is you seek perfection forever and you never consider yourself good enough to produce finished work or sell employment

[Anonymous No.6798646]

>>6798264
he's the ultimate constructoid. Knows every muscle in the human body, but can't draw an appealing picture to save his life.

[Anonymous No.6798656]

>>6798264
Who cares, he's rich and made one of the most successful anime IP of all time.

[Anonymous No.6798658]

>>6798264
How many times are you gonna make a thread about Isayama faggot?

[Anonymous No.6798678]

>>6798264
>>6798646
He's not that bad.

[Anonymous No.6798697]

>>6798264
> when it comes to drawing everything that isn't a titan
Trace AoT instead doing fundies.

[Anonymous No.6798706]

>>6798697
copy every volume of AOT manga twice

[Anonymous No.6798741]

/ic/'s obsession with narrowly conceived progress (le fundies) is really this weird, unexamined thing when you step back and look at it.
Artists are the sum total of their experiences & habits. Most of the really good, creative artists got that way by doing exactly the thing that felt right at any given moment, and struggling through the process. Isayama mainly wanted to tell a horror story where the artcraft wasn't of paramount importance, Toriyama just liked drawing cars and cartoons and shit since he was a kid.
It makes no sense to worry whether you'll "end up" a certain way, you should be thinking ahead a week at most, how to somehow make the next picture work (which it often won't, but still).

[Anonymous No.6798775]

>>6798422
How do you know you'll be up to scratch? Are there ways to test this more objectively?

[Anonymous No.6798800]

>>6798741
>It makes no sense to worry whether you'll "end up" a certain way, you should be thinking ahead a week at most, how to somehow make the next picture work (which it often won't, but still).
Im stupid, could you elaborate on that one?

[Anonymous No.6798883]

>>6798800
little kid
>get idea
>draw idea
>wow that was awesome
>do it again, because it's awesome
older kid
>get idea
>draw idea
>that kinda sucked, fuck this lol gonna go play vidyo game
artist (older kid grown up now)
>get idea
>draw idea
>hm, that wasn't how I imagined it
>let's work on that a bit
/ic/
>get idea
>don't draw idea, not good enough yet
>don't draw any idea at all
>need to grind anatomy perspective color theory values first
>wonder will I ever be good enough to draw my idea
/ic/ is like the older kid, but with a heaping helping of neurosis

[Anonymous No.6798986]

>>6798646
And yet, the muscly titans are what people first and foremost think of when it comes to his works
Imagine if they look like formless 'just draw' blobs. fucking kek.

[Anonymous No.6799024]

>>6798883
Kek true

[Anonymous No.6799027]

>>6798883
>>6799024
>just draw bro

[Anonymous No.6799041]

>>6798986
true, he maximized his strengths

[Anonymous No.6799157]

>>6799027
As opposed to what else?

[Anonymous No.6799162]

>>6798264
That's the soul difference. You never know if you have a soul until you try and draw for many years. Even if you find out you have no soul, your art will be technically great and still sort of interesting to look at. Nothing to be scared of.

[Anonymous No.6799165]

>>6799027
>>6798883
>>hm, that wasn't how I imagined it
>>let's work on that a bit
This is important

[Anonymous No.6799286]

>>6798883
This sums it up pretty well kek. Im saving this post.

>>6798986
>>6799027
>Anons got filtered by "just draw"
Im certain anon is pointing out the fact that your average, well versed artist doesnt put an autistic amount of fixation on the grinding process while not drawing what they want to do and they simply draw while focusing on understanding their shortcomings and correcting them to their best of their abilities.

Rather than going all like
>"Nooo!! I need to hoard 30 more art books and grinde a million boxes before I draw what I want to draw!!"
You're better off going like
>I will draw what I want and see what I need to improve and study from there, then I will apply my studies on the next draw!"
This is the real power of just drawing.

[Anonymous No.6799337]

>>6799027
Chris chan is by all means not an average Person, he has Multiple Developmental issues Mental Illness and Autism.

[Anonymous No.6799415]

>>6798656
No one cares until you were forgotten and got surpassed bypeople who actually cares about their output

Fame is a fickle thing. In the long run, quality is what matters to everyone

[Anonymous No.6799555]

>>6798400
Checked

[Anonymous No.6799558]

>>6799415
Retard autistic cope af. Not even trying to be mean.

[Anonymous No.6799683]

fuck bros, I just did my self portrait as part of DRSB and it might actually be the best drawing I've ever done...

[Anonymous No.6799713]

>>6798264
his first attempt at making manga became the most acclaimed and well-known piece of media in this current century, i'd imagine he didn't have a lot of time to do fundies and didn't want to stray too much from an already winning formula + infinite money glitch

[Anonymous No.6799723]

>>6799027
ironically in your example you can see progress.

[Anonymous No.6799742]

>>6798422
It's called process, son. Sometimes workflow, but you get the idea. You're problem solving, and just making the same cascading decisions. Making different decisions is a lot harder when you're only presenting yourself with the same problems, right? This is one big reason why getting out of your comfort zone benefits you so much as an artist.

[Anonymous No.6799798]

>>6799027
Chris Chan is a literal retard

[Anonymous No.6799899]

>>6798264
This guy never made an attempt to genuinely improve all he did was release chapters of his story and fill the quota.

It would be a different story if there was proof of him genuinely trying to improve his anatomy and shot composition but there isn't. I wouldn't be too worried about it anon

[Anonymous No.6799928]

>>6799558
Nah.
I have no envy towards him or anyone else.
But I do hope he realize his shortcomings and fight against stagnation. Lest he ends up becoming another One Hit Wonder like the authors of Cromatie High, Death Note, Mirai Nikki, and of course, Game of Thrones.

[Anonymous No.6799937]

>>6799713
>already winning formula + infinite money glitch
heh
That's what drove Telltale Games and Disney to their deaths.
The golden goose will not lay eggs forever. Entertainment require constant new output as every cliche and trope has its shelf life

[Anonymous No.6799985]

>>6799937
your understanding is completely wrong.
>drove Disney to their death

Disney was bought by jews to destroy European culture and internationalize it. it's a propaganda outlet for israelis and their agenda to mix all non-jews into a single mixed-race underclass with no nations.
that's why Ariel is brown.

[Anonymous No.6799990]

>>6799985
con't

Bob Iger is a jew.

[Anonymous No.6800048]

>>6799337
Sounds just like /ic/