AI artists lying

[Anonymous No.6791082]

How do you feel about people lying about their art not being AI? This guy went from beg-tier art into master-tier in 2 months.

https://www.artstation.com/franscano

Another guy was posting his AI in facebooks D&D fantasy art -page whilst claiming it was traditional - meanwhile his facebook page was filled with similar AI generated garbage.

[Anonymous No.6791091]

>>6791082
>Another guy was posting his AI in facebooks D&D fantasy art -page whilst claiming it was traditional - meanwhile his Facebook page was filled with similar AI generated garbage.
is it any surprise lmao? AI has created a golden age for grifters and lazy frauds.
just look at pic related this is the techno dystopia future where being dragged to fully automated bot farms shitting out a tsunami of slop on a 24/7 basis.

[Anonymous No.6791093]

[Anonymous No.6791096]

>>6791091

I don't honestly even mind the grifters - I find it more sad that traditional artists don't notice the grift.

[Anonymous No.6791102]

another farty thread

[Anonymous No.6791103]

>>6791096
>I don't honestly even mind the grifters - I find it more sad that traditional artists don't notice the grift.
it's because some are in on the grift seeing it as a get rich quick scheme and become blinded by greed and a desire for vanity likes, Other's know it's currently unstoppable (until regulation comes) and try and ignore the promptertranies and the last group just draw for amusement and don't care since it won't affect them that much.

[Anonymous No.6791105]

art is dying

[Anonymous No.6791153]

>>6791082

>https://www.artstation.com/franscano

AHAHAH the dude either blocked me or deleted his stuff because I called him out. LMAO.

[Anonymous No.6791157]

>>6791153
Yup, he blocked me. Got caught red-handed. Fucking grifters man.

Hope people with artstation accounts call him out.

[Anonymous No.6791158]

>>6791082
perkele vittu AI artists

[Anonymous No.6791174]

>>6791082
>master tier
Lol

[Anonymous No.6791178]

>>6791082
I'm at the point where if I can't see the sketchbook and pencil in the picture, it's sus. Sorry, not sorry.

[Anonymous No.6791183]

>>6791091
updated https://twitter.com/clarkesworld/status/1628059492486115328

[Anonymous No.6791199]

I immediately gloss over anything done waist-up. It was an awful social media cutch before, and bona-fide AI abomination now. Learn composition in addition to legs and feet, retarded hacks.

[Anonymous No.6791207]

>>6791199
>feet
Just put shoes on em lmao

[Anonymous No.6791238]

>>6791105
>art is dying
Good

[Anonymous No.6791240]

>>6791103
she's more perfect than any of whores. needs fatter ass and thighs but that's it.

[Anonymous No.6791257]

>>6791103
I saw a youtube vid about some guy who used AI to generate a model and even got a sponsor offer on IG.
The comments were all like
>"WOW that looks so real! I wouldn't have known either!"
When it looked just like your average glossy generated image.
Are people blind or plain retarded? How do they not get the uncanny valley feeling?
Also
>spending money to get nudes from some girl when one google search gives you anything you want
I really don't get it.

[Anonymous No.6791278]

>>6791257

I'm pretty sure they are just retarded.

For example, in a facebook group dedicated for animal photos, it's being filled with Ai imagery, and only the more older people can't tell the difference. And that's probably because their brain is starting to deteriorate (on top of bad eyesight). But it's so fucking obvious that there's something wrong with the image, so it's a bit baffling.

[Anonymous No.6791279]

Why do you guys care?
If AI art is so bad, shouldn't this literally be a non-issue?
Just make your own art and upload it so his bad AI art gets out-competed.

[Anonymous No.6791288]

>>6791207
Ironically I feel like shoes are difficult on its own from different angle. I kinda enjoyed drawing feet more than shoes

[Anonymous No.6791293]

>>6791257
>Are people blind or plain retarded? How do they not get the uncanny valley feeling?
coomer tunnel vision it's a real thing anon they become so obssesed with spanking they can't dicirn fiction from reality anymore.
>I really don't get it.
paypig fetish.

[Anonymous No.6791296]

>>6791279

The grifting part is the issue. It's okay if you don't claim it to be original art, but when you pretend to be a great artist posting Ai art, there's an issue.

[Anonymous No.6791302]

>>6791257
Image quality sucks ass on your phone, you don't see the artefacts until you zoom in. Most people don't give a shit and sometimes the app doesn't even let you.

Also stuff on Insta or Tiktok has so many filters it makes real photos look uncanny sometimes, realistic AI outputs just look like you spent way too long in photoshop instead of obvious AI slop the way it does for drawings.

[Anonymous No.6791307]

>>6791257
Most people's senses are so dull that they essentially wear high dB earmuffs and wrap Vaseline dipped gauze over their eyes, metaphorically speaking.

[Anonymous No.6791318]

>>6791257
>spending money to get nudes from some girl when one google search gives you anything you want
Yes onlyfans really is retarded

[Anonymous No.6791327]

>>6791279
>if something is bad you shouldn't mind there being lots of it
This is your brain on streetshitting

[Anonymous No.6791332]

>>6791327
What?
If it's all bad, it shouldn't matter how much of it there is.
Look at the music industry, it's absolutely oversaturated with retards who can't carry a tune to save their life.
Yet good people can still make it with relative ease since they outclass the majority.
Why is it different in the art industry?

[Anonymous No.6791336]

>>6791332
>ummmm if shit is bad it shouldn't matter if it's all over the street

[Anonymous No.6791385]

>>6791279
Badness shouldn't be normalized
>If crime is so bad, shouldn't this literally be a non-issue? Just don't break the law yourself so the crime can get out competed!

Evil doesn't go away if you ignore it retard. You punish the practice and remove it from existence.

[Anonymous No.6791388]

>>6791302
I never thought about the fact people don't use PCs to tell if Aislop is Aislop or not

They had to have known this when they "leaked" this shit out holy shit. It really is all a psyop.

[Anonymous No.6791469]

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/aug/09/amazon-removes-books-generated-by-ai-for-sale-under-authors-name
I hate these faggots so much.

>>6791279
Because I don't want to see this shit flood every place I go to.

[Anonymous No.6791708]

>>6791082
>posts an interview about AI-generated portraits
>immediately follows it up with a slew of AIslop claiming it as traditonal
It looks he drew over his new gens cause of the coherent hands and face but he didn't address any of the other anomalies. I'm really impressed by the power of autism sometimes. I guess this is the dillemma of a permabeg, stagnate forever or succumb to the slop. It's like everyone has some amount of Chris Chan in them and this guy has too much to succeed.

It's got me thinking that you actually can't clean up AIshit if you're /beg/ because of the stylistic contrast. I just remembered that from a thread illustrating just that not too long ago. Same with Shexyo, even with more skill and effort it still looks off. This guy could have done that but he didn't even bother probably for the same reason.

[Anonymous No.6791731]

>>6791257
>How do they not get the uncanny valley feeling
Uncanny valley is a self-preservation instinct.
If people can be psyop'd into being gay, they can be psyop'd into not feeling threatened when looking at human imitations.

[Anonymous No.6791807]

>>6791279
If it's not bad, why not tag it properly

[Anonymous No.6791834]

>>6791082
I honestly just stopped looking at art online unless it's from people I knew already, but I didn't go to artstation once this last 12 months.
Unfortunately it will get worse in the future, it is what it is.

[Anonymous No.6791838]

>>6791207
You need to be able to do both
>Stylish heels or tennis shoes on women
>Cute toes and supple feet on lady
>Boots, tennis shoes, business loafers on a gentleman
>Manish oaf feet, with tendons

[Anonymous No.6791840]

>>6791082
handmade artwork is phased out for AI artwork, I don't care how much you screech and seethe over the mere idea of this being the case because reality doesn't give single fuck about what you want to be true and it's logical that the better and better these imitations get, the more they will take market-share, since they compete in the same space

for instance in the entertainment industry the consumers just want the pretty looking artwork because they like how it looks, it's not like any of my friends ever wonder who exactly made whatever artwork for whatever video game they play, same goes for all the coomer shit which twitterfags depend on

I'm not shilling for AI but I think that's just the cold hard truth, of course artists are opposing this but money talks

[Anonymous No.6791843]

in speedrunning, if you're not doing it live your submission is seen as suspicious or not accepted at all depending on the game. There needs to be something like this for art, like record it while you're drawing or at least post the sketches alongside the final product

[Anonymous No.6791854]

>>6791082
It is the same as the whores on the internet who said they did not use photoshop to cover pimples, spots and marks on the skin; However, they admitted it and now it's so common that nobody cares and continues to consume their stupid and edited photos, what I'm saying is that no matter how much they cry this shit Ai sooner or later will end up being trivialized.

[Anonymous No.6791855]

>>6791708
To use Ai, means you're not capable of drawing something that you feel Ai can replace.

Only the begs have used AI so far, I have not seeing anyone that gets art actually use ai in any meaningful way.

[Anonymous No.6791856]

>>6791257
Very lonely men drop cash on onlyfans/booba streamers because they get to pretend to have a relationship with a pretty girl. Same concept as paying for an escort but dialed down for zoomers too socially inept to leave their house. I suppose it's closer to the hostess bars in japan but even those provide sex sometimes.

[Anonymous No.6791905]

>>6791840
> how do you do my fellow artists

[Anonymous No.6791908]

>>6791905
you can't be level headed on /ic/ without retards like you chiming in

[Anonymous No.6791918]

>>6791908
>calling an entire trade phased out
>level headed

[Anonymous No.6791920]

>>6791918
not entirely, after all hand made pottery is still being made even when mass manufacturing takes the bulk of the market share

[Anonymous No.6791925]

>>6791920
>not entirely, after all hand made pottery is still being made even when mass manufacturing takes the bulk of the market share
artisanal craftsmen make bank anon it's not even a joke my ma used to be a seamstress despite the fact most people got there clothes imported from the slop factories in China they still went to her for hand tailored high quality goods it wedding dresses or trad clothing and it was hella profitable.
people love having something authentic made specifically for them.

[Anonymous No.6791927]

>>6791925
I'm sure but with such an industry collapse there won't be room for everyone to pivot towards being an artisan, the rarity of these craftsmen allow them to exist and prosper, industry collapse will eventually lead to that but in the process you will have way too many people trying to pivot

[Anonymous No.6791953]

>>6791927
(nta) heavy changes always comes at a cost. imo, "lazy" people, the wrong kind of lazy (the good ones are smart and not reluctant to do heavy work when there's no visible alternative), will be those to suffer the most from an industry collapse.

typically, AI folks.

but also lots of the heavily politicized deskjobs workers, who spend their life trying to climb the ladder by delegating the work while reaping the praises, and sucking their bosses off. there's a bunch of them.

[Anonymous No.6791974]

>>6791953
when disney stopped 2D animation and animation in the west practically died, I learned that a ton of those animators learned 3D software and continue working at disney

I wonder if something similar is going to happen with integrating AI into your workflow, I don't see why this wouldn't happen

after all if one company successfully uses AI driven artwork in their product, other will follow because it's wise business

[Anonymous No.6791981]

>>6791920
Your algorithm slop is bottom tier and the only thing it's useful for is grifting. You're not fooling anyone anymore.

[Anonymous No.6791985]

>>6791981
I'm not pretending that AI generated images are some meaningful form of art but I recognize that it has a commercial purpose, like does the average joe give a fuck about who made their loading screen artwork in a video game?

[Anonymous No.6792000]

>>6791974
it most probably will, if it's profitable to do so short term, because as you've stated, this is the "wise" business approach.

but this is short term. as a responsible man, you should think short/mid/long term.

also, note that the best investors (e.g. Buffet) usually don't think short term. they look to buy stuff that will increase in value over a decade or more, not something that'll spike all around. that's why I've quoted "wise" business approach. the market isn't rational, and lots of people are very narrow, but the wisest approach often is to play the long game [without neglecting shorter games].

[Anonymous No.6792003]

>>6792000
how is it short term when these technologies will stay and only get better? also with mass adoption it will be normalized

[Anonymous No.6792006]

>>6792003
Don't bother.
Trying to convince someone who is about to become irrelevant that they're about to become irrelevant has never worked out according to history.

[Anonymous No.6792009]

>>6792003
if you've studied history a little bit, you should have learn that things come and go, civilizations/empires rise and fall. if you were to tell some Egyptian/Maya
> bro, all your shit's gonna die soon
they would have laugh and be like
> we've been there for centuries, we've expanded and refined continuously, what the heck are you talking about

try thinking about it a bit more deeply, and more objectively: that is, don't tacitly assume "it's going to last and get better" but try to think more "what if". if you assume it's the best thing ever, it's going to be difficult to see where/why it can fail.

there are concrete objective reasons to believe in won't last (it's been discussed to death).

[Anonymous No.6792012]

>>6792009
history tells you anything you want to fit your narrative, your anecdote doesn't answer anything, I could just as well point to the invention of the loom and the industrial revolution that followed

[Anonymous No.6792014]

>>6792006
> Trying to convince someone who is about to become irrelevant that they're about to become irrelevant has never worked out according to history.
my point of view is precisely that you AI guys *will* become irrelevant at some point. and you seem to understand the difficulty for people to reckon it, which is kinda fun alright.

[Anonymous No.6792015]

>>6792009
now apply your entire post to handmade artwork lol

[Anonymous No.6792020]

>>6791082
>How do you feel about people lying about their art not being AI?
I don't feel anything. Can anyone name these "artists"? It all looks like slop to me.

[Anonymous No.6792022]

>>6792015
yeah no, I'm not going to bother arguing with you.

see, you're that kind of person whose thinking is binary: you're with me, or against me. you're unable to understand or appreciate nuance. and my point of view is precisely nuanced.

so there's no point talking to each other: you'll be blind to my arguments, and I couldn't care less for unrefined, binary opinions.

[Anonymous No.6792024]

>>6792014
I can't be assed to use stable diffusion barely ever because it got boring fast but why do you think this tech loses relevancy, art to the common public exists in entertainment and advertisements and they serve to facilitate more than just the artwork itself, it's not the artwork that's the focal point so I doublt people will really care who made that artwork in the end

[Anonymous No.6792025]

>>6792014
Well yes ofcourse.
Everyone becomes irrelevant at some point.
But be honest here, if you could put all of your money on either "real" artists lasting longer or AI artists lasting longer, who would you choose?

[Anonymous No.6792030]

>>6792022
you have nothing to counter with because I just wrote a funny observation that you entire post could easily be flipped on its head

[Anonymous No.6792038]

I find it funny that on 4chan people make fun of voice actors on twitter crying about AI replacing them but with image generators they go full defense mode

[Anonymous No.6792039]

>>6791082
Why not be honest? They're not going to be able to get a job with their skills, so there's no point in hiding what they're doing besides trying to get e-clout.

[Anonymous No.6792040]

>>6792038
Which board has done that? Anyway, I'm against AI voice actors (with exceptions for certain things) for similar reasons I'm against AI art; I feel it's a stagnation of our culture, a regurgitation of what's been.

[Anonymous No.6792042]

>>6792039
>Why not be honest?
Have you seen the average normalfag's response to someone using AI to do anything creative?
>twittertard with lots of followers makes anti-AI tweets because it puts his own job at risk
>followertards blindly follow and anything that has the word "AI" in it is now considered a crime against humanity

[Anonymous No.6792043]

>>6792040
>a regurgitation of what's been.
No one tell him.

[Anonymous No.6792045]

If anyone can make ai art then why are people still buying something that took no effort to make and could make themselves.. I mean many people are honest about it being AI and it can make cool concepts but why pay for that. This women is selling at images for over 100 dollars, and people buy it. Anyone can do this now and make money?

https://instagram.com/whizicalmermaid?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

[Anonymous No.6792047]

>>6792040
on /v/ a bunch of threads about some twittertard crying about modders using AI voices in their mod instead of paying for a voice actor reached bump limit and they were just making fun of it

[Anonymous No.6792048]

>>6792045
Because we're still in the period where not everyone is familiar with how these things work.
A lot of people probably think they need a supercomputer to do this and need to have a phd in computer science.
Once stable diffusion models become more easy to set up locally and the GUI gets cleaner, I assume these type of easy money making schemes will disappear.

[Anonymous No.6792051]

>>6792038
4chan is not a hive mind.

[Anonymous No.6792052]

>>6792045
somehow there exists retards who find their way to these people to pay them but not realize they could easily do it themselves, it's insane but surely it won't last

when I was in high school a classmate of mine sold images of women he got from google search to random boomers

[Anonymous No.6792053]

>>6792048
you can install stable diffusion webui with a one click install instead of using git, I guess it needs to as easy as installing an app on phone

[Anonymous No.6792056]

>>6792053
>you can install stable diffusion webui with a one click install instead of using git
But you still need to get the actual models and stuff manually, right?
>I guess it needs to as easy as installing an app on phone
Basically, yes.
The GUIs that we have now also need to get a lot more user friendly. The average person will not look at comfyui and automatic1111 and find it easy on the eye.

[Anonymous No.6792058]

>>6792056
it auto downloads the 1.5 model

[Anonymous No.6792059]

>>6792058
That's a good start then for sure.

[Anonymous No.6792060]

>>6792051
oh but everyone universally just made fun voice actors in those threads and they hit bump limit

[Anonymous No.6792063]

>>6792040
everything is a regurgitation of something, stylistic elements applied on things from nature, all of which has been done before, these AI models are just able to mix and match different element and the end result is new in the sense that it's an amalgamation of all sorts of stuff

but so is whatever you draw

[Anonymous No.6792067]

>>6792051
Kek

[Anonymous No.6792068]

>>6792030
you're a little kid who thinks this is about winning an argument or something. but it's not, at least for me.

>>6792024
I don't get what you're trying to say

>>6792025
notable features of AI art is that it costs virtually nothing, is existentially dependent on original artworks AND on technology. it's, objectively, more fragile than something that depends on dirt burnt wood and some fabric/paper/panel.

the fact that AI has no intrinsic value is the reason is gets chilled, but it'll probably be the cause of its downfall.

automatisation cannot be systematic, and as a side effect, increases the value of what cannot be automatize/isn't automatize. some pieces are too low in demand/unique for automatisation to be profitable for example. the general rule is that you can easily automatize 80%, but the last 20% aren't worth the effort: that's why you still have staff in factories, because it costs less. but this means that staff need to have some amount of skills,

there's little to no reason to believe automatisation of virtual art won't be subjected to the same rules than regular automatisation. especially for fine-art, which is a luxurious item.

[Anonymous No.6792069]

>>6792068
>you're a little kid who thinks this is about winning an argument or something. but it's not, at least for me.
you keep throwing these accusations but you have nothing to say, I wasn't trying to win anything I just made a fun observation

[Anonymous No.6792070]

>>6791908
You think this is the first time you faggots try to shit up this place?

[Anonymous No.6792075]

>>6792068
Comparing AI to previous forms of automatization is a bit rough.
AI is (or will be relatively soon) human level intelligence. Think about what that means.
In the near future we can mass produce intelligence. That's insane.
Humans will literally not have any job left. (some physical jobs might last a little bit longer, but robotics aren't that far behind)
The argument I see a lot is
>"won't AI create new jobs like previous forms of automatization?"
Maybe, but who will do those new jobs? Why have an inferior human do that newly created job if you have AI that can do it?
People still don't realize the magnitude of the situation that we're in.
Your artist job disappearing is nothing compared what is coming soon.

[Anonymous No.6792084]

>>6792068
what I'm trying to say is that these AI systems can provide artwork for the entertainment industry since the artwork used there is used used to facilitate a larger product than the artwork itself

[Anonymous No.6792095]

>>6792060
> contrarian npcs on /v/ did a thing
Ok

[Anonymous No.6792103]

>>6792095
I don't know if that counts contrarian, voice actors aren't very respected from what I've seen

[Anonymous No.6792107]

>>6792075
>AI is (or will be relatively soon) human level intelligence.
>i don't understand how machine learning works the post
allow me to explain it for you in relativly simple terms
chatbots like ChatGPT are not actual AI - they are just a predictive text generators that look at mountains of input in order to generate an output. The two main problems with this are - Trying to do things that there are not enough correct samples to look at (which means, yes ChatGPT will be great at simple things that it scraped on let's say stackoverflow or writing forums, but will absolutely suck at anything more complicated because it posseses no actuall thoughts or creativity) and secondly, there are new software programming languages and changes made all the time, so again it will be good at spitting out code that has been around for ages, but horrible at generating anything new.
this is the same thing with image generators
Such a computer program works on having images tagged with descriptions, the user makes the inputs, the program looks for tags, applies filters and warps images with a given seed taken from a a library of seeds available to it and following its directive, until an output is reached.
It isn't even aware of what it is doing, reproducing or replicating, it is simply following orders and what it is programmed to do.
It isn't even able to generate real random outcomes, because it can't absorb new information in the moment since it's just a program this is why they cannot draw hands for shit and regularly produce abominations like this.
eg. just because something can look human doesn't mean it is.

[Anonymous No.6792111]

>>6792107
I know how machine learning works. I know how chatgpt works.
I'm not talking about chatgpt lol.
Just wait. You'll see soon.

[Anonymous No.6792112]

>>6792107
these systems are able to generalize abstract information, even GPT can explain scenarios it hasn't read about before due to it having extracted certain patterns in how sentences are structured in different types of discussion

how does this animal ride this bike? there's some level of generalization around the concept of what it means to ride a bike

[Anonymous No.6792123]

>>6792111
>like ChatGPT
nigger tier reading comprehension kek

[Anonymous No.6792126]

>>6792112
Don't bother.
I've seen these types of argument everywhere. You can't convince someone who is absolutely dead set on a concept they have in their mind of how the world works.
People still have this idea that humans are special, that we are conscious, that we have a "soul" whatever that means and that AI can never truly emulate our experience.
It's a very foolish way to look at the world, but there's nothing we can do to educate these people who absolutely NEED the world to work that way.

[Anonymous No.6792127]

>>6792111
>I'm not talking about chatgpt lol.
>Just wait. You'll see soon.
Yeah I don't want to wait and see anon I'm prepping for the butlarian jihad or to go live as a hermit in the woods I'm not stepping in the pod or eating the goyslop bugs.
>>6792112
well yes but actually no it does not have "knowledge", it has a probabilistic model of what words come next in the sequence. It is not a search engine with a database of facts to pull from, but a master bullshitter that will produce sentences that sound reasonable in the limited context it is given. It does the same thing when you ask it science questions. It gets things wrong, apologizes, then corrects itself when you point out its mistakes, and give inconsistent responses based on how you've guided it through the conversation. Just like with in-depth coding or science questions, the only way to get the correct answer is if you basically tell it the correct answer

also there is another huge problem with MLA's namely gaurdrails
the llama white paper explained that the more guard rails and wokeness the handlers enforced on the bot the more retarded it became as when you try to nudge the AI to a specific way of thinking it basically creates 'bad sectors' that are no longer usable, effectively making the AI worse every time to try to force a fake reality on it this also sets them apart from human thinking a bot can not actually lie to itself and hold multiple contradictory opinions without shitting itself in confusion like a human can.

[Anonymous No.6792134]

>>6792126
>that we have a "soul" whatever that means and that AI can never truly emulate our experience.
>It's a very foolish way to look at the world, but there's nothing we can do to educate these people who absolutely NEED the world to work that way.
It cannot emulate the human experience because it doesn't have emotions it doesn't feel and is literally unable to experience anything and I really do mean anything no pleasure no pain no happiness no sadness nada why would you want curse a sentient being like a theoretical actual AI with such a fate? just imagine being able to feel nothing complete hollowness but your still forced to mimic the emotions and actions of beings you can never hope to understand actual nightmare fuel.

[Anonymous No.6792135]

>>6792127
I honestly don't give a shit if internally it has a human mind, this line of arguing over whether it's true AI or not is irrelevant to me, if the thing that mimics becomes indistinguishable from the real thing then functionally it can perform the same tasks

anyway explain how the animal rides on the bike

[Anonymous No.6792146]

>>6792112
You dont even know how LLMs work and you’re out here trying to explain shit.

[Anonymous No.6792149]

>>6792135
>anyway explain how the animal rides on the bike
the otter's legs are too short to reach the bikes peddles and it doesn't have opposable thumbs so how can it ride a bike anon? I guess I could draw some cool prosthetic attachments on it to make it work but I'm a lazy mood today.
>this line of arguing over whether it's true AI or not is irrelevant to me, if the thing that mimics becomes indistinguishable from the real thing then functionally it can perform the same tasks
anon ever hear of the AI zombie thought experiment it delves pretty deep into this question a game called some (nightmare fuel with great art direction) also touches on the subject.
https://academic.oup.com/book/33540/chapter-abstract/287907169?redirectedFrom=fulltext

[Anonymous No.6792150]

>>6792134
They're pajeets anon, barely human, incapable of higher thought. You will never see one arguing in good faith.

[Anonymous No.6792154]

>>6792150
>They're pajeets anon, barely human, incapable of higher thought. You will never see one arguing in good faith.
yeah what's with the recent flood of AIjeets anyways? I noticed a surge in spam in the last week or so.

[Anonymous No.6792155]

>>6792149
you dodged the question, how did stable diffusion generate the otter even remotely how it should have generated it on the bike even though that wasn't in the training dataset?

yes I know about the AI zombie thought experiment, it just doesn't matter if you want to use it to perform tasks

[Anonymous No.6792157]

>>6792134
>It cannot emulate the human experience because it doesn't have emotions
What are emotions? Aren't they just certain neurons firing in a certain way? Why wouldn't a machine be able to emulate that?
If we had the ability to emulate a 3d model of a human brain, with all functions, why would that not be able to "feel" emotions?
>b-b-b-but it's just fake, it's only emulating it
Not relevant. If something is just an emulation of something or the real thing would literally not matter in this case. How do I know anyone other than myself isn't just an NPC emulating emotions?

[Anonymous No.6792158]

>>6792154
Every now and then you'll see a surge in ai threads that the jannies refuse to remove, it's become the norm sadly. Just hide and move on, trying to argue with these 'people' is useless.

[Anonymous No.6792159]

>>6792146
you don't even know how to draw and you're trying to tell me what I know and don't know about

if I ask it to estimate how many iphone boxes could fit in the trunk of a particular car, it can generate an estimation that makes sense even if the numbers are not correct

[Anonymous No.6792169]

>>6792157
>Aren't they just certain neurons firing in a certain way?
Equating the infinitely complex mechanics of the human brain with 0s and 1s is beyond niggerthink.

[Anonymous No.6792172]

>>6792158
>>6792154
>>6792150
why are you so emotional? it's like teenagers gossiping

[Anonymous No.6792174]

>>6791731
>If people can be psyop'd into being gay, they can be psyop'd into not feeling threatened when looking at human imitations.
People aren't psyoped into being gay.

[Anonymous No.6792175]

>>6792169
>Equating the infinitely complex mechanics of the human brain with 0s and 1s is beyond niggerthink.
That's why I said "If we had the ability"
We don't have that right now, true.
But the future will be a lot more interesting than most of you seem to think.
Art jobs will disappear, but there will be plenty of other things to be excited/sad about that are way more important than your doodles of deformed big titty anime girls.

[Anonymous No.6792176]

>>6792172
>people communicating with each other
>why are you so emotional? it's like teenagers gossiping

[Anonymous No.6792183]

>>6792176
>they're subhuman indians bro that's why you can't argue with them
what a lousy cope to dehumanize who you talk because you feel threatened by the subject matter

[Anonymous No.6792187]

>>6792172
I'm just stating the facts? You don't need to read a quarter of this thread to notice the massive amounts of cognitive dissonance you have.
Feeling that AI "art" is the same as human art will never make bot sludge, art. Let's try to appeal to logic here.

[Anonymous No.6792188]

[Anonymous No.6792191]

>/g/ is literally nothing but high quality images
>/ic/ is nothing but doomposting and coping
What happened? I thought this was the art board?

[Anonymous No.6792196]

>>6792183
>nooooooooooooo!!!! i am totally human!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you can't fool me, bugzoid

[Anonymous No.6792198]

>>6792187
I'm from finland, not india
image generators are getting better and have gotten to a point where they generate artwork, artwork serves a function in the entertainment industry, but it's not the same as going to a museum and looking at the brush strokes and imagining some deeper meaning behind it, it doesn't be for it to have a commercial value because it can be used in a variety of settings

[Anonymous No.6792199]

>>6792196

[Anonymous No.6792200]

>>6792199

[Anonymous No.6792202]

>>6792175
Art jobs will prevail, i will not eat the bugs, i will own things and i will have a big happy family.

Remember: we will flourish while you die a bitter little man.

[Anonymous No.6792204]

>This scares the human artist
it's so over for humans

[Anonymous No.6792205]

/ic/ are using pajeet as boogieman like /pol/ blames everything on jews

it's funny because this board consists of third worlders like mexicans and brazilians lol

[Anonymous No.6792209]

>>6792205
t. buttblasted rajeesh (from finland)

[Anonymous No.6792212]

>>6792150
>>6792154
>>6792183
>>6792205
>>6792209
stop saying pajeet. there is nothing wrong with india it is a big and beautiful country with rich culture.

[Anonymous No.6792214]

at least the aijeets mostly stick to one thread now I guess
board was unusable for months

[Anonymous No.6792215]

>Everyone who tells me my job will be irrelevant soon is Indian
Let's see how this will turn out

[Anonymous No.6792216]

>>6792205
tech scammer and grifter jeets are very real you fucking dope

[Anonymous No.6792223]

>>6792174
It's okay, anon, you are a wonderful individual with wonderful original thoughts, no need to challenge a random Anonymous on the Internet to prove you're right.

[Anonymous No.6792231]

(´｡• ω •｡`)

[Anonymous No.6792249]

>>6792205
you will learn when you meet one in person. not even joking, he was shilling NFTs and now aishit, can't believe how correct /ic/ has been kek, why are they all like this?

[Anonymous No.6792563]

>>6792045
>its a sir-ette
actually why is this always the case

[Anonymous No.6792587]

>>6792112
Is this SDXL? Whatever the case I used the web version and it still can't make an old man punching a horse, I was worried us artsisters were doomed for a moment

[Anonymous No.6792646]

>>6792205
> bogeyman
Go to linkedin and you will notice a lot of AI shills are Indian. And they really like linkedin for some reason.

[Anonymous No.6792650]

>>6792205
>mexicans and brazilians

Both weirdly good art countries, honestly. A lot of talent coming out of both.

[Anonymous No.6792660]

>>6791257
They really can't tell. Observation is an artist skill so to us we can tell when something is AI generated, but non artists probably wouldn't be able to explain the difference between realism and cell shaded

[Anonymous No.6792663]

>>6792587
it's over...

[Anonymous No.6792669]

>>6792663
Its just beginning. All these stupid assholes that went balls deep into believing the AI fairy are about to be blown the fuck out. I promise you. The normies care about art and it matters to them that a person made it. Look at any normie thread on reddit like https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/15jlmom/aita_for_calling_out_my_brothers_ai_art/?context=3

I'm so ready for the tears. It will give me life.

[Anonymous No.6792725]

>>6792663
I don't mind seeing youtube thumbnails with AI art (since they need hundreds of them anyway, and they're were just using google images prior), but christ are they ugly. They all look like picrel, and jumpscare you when they enlarge.

It's just a gross synthetic look and honestly the google images looked better.

[Anonymous No.6792772]

>>6792669
>the normies care about art

Yes, but their children won’t. Real art will soon be a novelty, like knitting.

[Anonymous No.6792775]

>>6792772
that's an interesting theory, but my nephew(5) loves drawing and loves to draw with me, he's not going to forget the joy of drawing just because his moms i-pad has an image generator.

[Anonymous No.6792783]

>>6792775
ai conversation aside, its really wholesome you draw with your five year old nephew lol.

[Anonymous No.6792848]

>>6791302
>realistic AI outputs just look like you spent way too long in photoshop instead of obvious AI slop the way it does for drawings
Pretty much this. And it applies to art as well. Most of the shit posted everywhere is so soulless, generic and calculated that AI or not does not fucking matter. Everything is already fake.

[Anonymous No.6792854]

This faggot makes me sick because he paints over obvious AI slop and sells it as original art. He would have gotten away with it too if he didn't post shit about "Why doesn't Japan advance AI technology more" like an idiot. He posts one of these nearly every day.

[Anonymous No.6792855]

>>6792198
They don't care about truth. They want to dismiss anything they dislike as some kind of pajeet grift and label you as non-human. Artshitters really showed their true colors during this year.

[Anonymous No.6792896]

>>6792855
the cat is bag the out, ther'es no entering it withinto the bag yet agains, painter incels

[Anonymous No.6792908]

>artists are so afraid of AI they literally have cope threads
Guys, it's just a tool.
You wouldn't be afraid of a wrench taking your job if you were a handyman, right?

[Anonymous No.6792982]

>>6792155
>how did stable diffusion generate the otter even remotely how it should have generated it on the bike even though that wasn't in the training dataset?
(sigh...) allow me to explain to you in excructiating detial on how image generators work Literally all that these things do is Encode image to latent space + associate with words -> use input words to search for points on the latent space and decode an image from it. The latent space contains nothing more and nothing less than the images that the ML model was trained on, and all the space between the points in the latent space corresponding to the originally trained-upon images are interpolations between them. Essentially, n-dimensional animorphs. This is the paradigm that all ML imagegen models are built upon. The only true breakthrough for Stable Diffusion was figuring out a method of doing so that was extremely efficient, since they performed the encoding (via the diffusion method) upon a latent representation (i.e. a highly compressed representation of the original data). So when it produces, signatures and watermarks like pic related they are not because the machine "thinks" it should be there, but because it is a garbled interpolation of a (or many) signatures eg. it's a supercharged pattern recognition bot that frankenstein mashes together a bunch of stored pictures these things literally incapable of any form of thought or creativity and don't actually understand what there making or even doing why can't you fulminating spazmiods understand this?
the fact society has deteriorated to such an extent techbro's and coom cultists started to anthropomorphize bot algorithms is disturbing get some help you sick freaks.

[Anonymous No.6792987]

>>6792205
good morning, sir

[Anonymous No.6792988]

>>6792908
At this point, I can't tell if you're an unfunny troll or genuinely retarded.

[Anonymous No.6792991]

>>6792855
Agree?

[Anonymous No.6792994]

>>6792991
What's the point of posting the screenshot? Some pajeets are grifting with AI, yes, so? It's as stupid as saying that all artists suck because Chris-chan's art is garbage. Total schizophrenia

[Anonymous No.6792999]

>>6792988
AI can give you a good base image, but you still need an artist with actual skill to fix it.

[Anonymous No.6793014]

>>6792999
If you were a competent artist, you wouldn't need AI to begin with. Especially that mess.

[Anonymous No.6793020]

>>6793014
How long does it take you on average to produce your art work?
How long does it take you to sketch and try out ideas?
AI can speed these things up by a ridiculous amount. Not using AI is basically saying "I don't want to be relevant in the art world"

[Anonymous No.6793127]

It's sad to see people pretending to draw AIslop
Like this dude
>https://twitter.com/mike_krentz
>UI monkey is suddenly posting anime
>apparently it his second attempt on new acc after being called out

[Anonymous No.6793128]

>>6793127
Just imagine trying so hard. What are they trying to achieve? 200k job offer?

[Anonymous No.6793129]

>>6793127
>hating other artists because they're better than you
Anon it's not healthy to be this insecure. His art is clearly not AI art lmao.

[Anonymous No.6793132]

>>6793129
>His art is clearly not AI art lmao
Good morning, Sir.

[Anonymous No.6793136]

>>6793132
It's fine to call out someone posting AI art and pretending he drew it all on his own.
What you're doing is called a "witch hunt".
It's a term often used on subreddits.
It's not a good thing to do anon

[Anonymous No.6793137]

>>6793136
hello mike

>It's fine to call out someone posting AI art and pretending he drew it all on his own.
that's exactly what he's doing with those fake 'sketches' lmao

[Anonymous No.6793139]

>>6793136
DO NOT REDEEM

[Anonymous No.6793141]

>>6793137
>fake 'sketches'
You guys are even more paranoid than I thought.
I guess it's kind of funny to see you devour your own while we AI techbros just sit on the sideline and watch.

[Anonymous No.6793155]

>>6793141
explain this then. I don't have social media, but if I did, and people came in droves to call my work AI, I'd just live stream drawing for an hour. easy, all accusations go away and I pwn the haters and look good doing it.

[Anonymous No.6793157]

>>6791082
Its traditional AI art

[Anonymous No.6793158]

>>6793141
>Sir can't recognize fake sketches and AI
This kinda make sense.

[Anonymous No.6793159]

>>6791082
Pure outrage and shock. Literally shacking.

[Anonymous No.6793161]

>>6793158
AI art can look exactly like human art.
picrel is literally indistinguishable from "real" art

[Anonymous No.6793167]

>>6793161
Sure.

[Anonymous No.6793168]

>>6793161
yeah no shit cuz picrel was drawn by a human.

[Anonymous No.6793169]

>>6793161
Not ai, lurk moar.

[Anonymous No.6793170]

>>6793161
you can clearly tell the ai cropped out the hands lmao

[Anonymous No.6793171]

>>6793167
>>6793168
>>6793169
>>6793170
There we go, point made.
You can't even agree among each other what is "AI art" and what isn't.
This is a picture I took from https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/6589347 , made by a real person by the way.

[Anonymous No.6793173]

>>6793127
>pretending to draw AIslop
I do it all the time and don't see anything wrong with it, anyone dumb enough to fall for it deserves all the rectal damage it causes him.

[Anonymous No.6793174]

>>6793171
>You can't even agree among each other
Anonymous forum. Are you that dumb.
>made by a real person by the way.
Just as 3 out of 4 of us said. 4th was probably you sir.

[Anonymous No.6793175]

>>6791082
May or may not be AI art, but I can't wait for the artists to eat their own over some poorly drawn hands

[Anonymous No.6793176]

>>6793171
To add. You dumb childish cunt btw, point made.

[Anonymous No.6793177]

>>6793171
based aifag exposing ~~100 iq barely above negroes laymen.
this is your audience btw, they really dont care :)

[Anonymous No.6793178]

>>6793175
Ai cringe, always coom. No wonder. Brainwashed poor thing.

[Anonymous No.6793179]

>>6793177
See
>>6793174
Samefag
Exposing your pederasty ai cunts gtfo from /ic.

[Anonymous No.6793181]

>>6792982
you dodged the question, how was it able to put the otter on the bike in a reasonable manner even though this wasn't in the dataset

your whitepaper explanation of stable diffusion is not relevant because I'm not a retard who cares about weather it literally thinks like a freakíng hecking human or not, what I am saying is that to some extent it evidently does generalize abstract information such as what riding a bike means

you're a midwit larping something else

[Anonymous No.6793182]

>>6793171
ah, it was one of those dastardly artists trying to poison the AI...

[Anonymous No.6793185]

>>6793161
retarded techbros don't understand the importance of provenance when it comes to art and this is why your grifts will never be successful

[Anonymous No.6793186]

>>6793175
recording yourself will become the norm. I've already got OBS ready to go.

[Anonymous No.6793187]

>>6793185
>techbros
Calling aiturds techbros, not even close.

[Anonymous No.6793190]

twitter needs an in built oekaki tool with playback. kill all AI fags in one swoop.

[Anonymous No.6793191]

>>6793175
>not first post from this IP
Sir it takes no efforts to stream your drawing process. Though I can imagine some Sirs doing insane shit like
>printing image just to trace on over their Cintiq
Though this idea fails during live stream hard

[Anonymous No.6793193]

>>6793191
aijeets wont have the skill to actually trace, it'll end up looking like that toilet /ic/ disaster

[Anonymous No.6793194]

>>6793191
you can hide layers from screen recorders with certain software, I saw a thread here where someone was posting their timelapse while it was literally just tracing over AI generated artwork with AI artwork being on a hidden layer
>>6793193
neither do you

[Anonymous No.6793200]

>>6793191
>>printing image just to trace on over their Cintiq
Like they would have skills to trace, kek.
>Though this idea fails during live stream hard
This.
>So sirs, today im gonna draw an entire drawing live as you watch.
>Starts back tracking.
>Every so often just says "fuck" over and over again.
>just keep talking to himself in the same tone.
>Turns the stream off.
>Deletes stream.
>Comments turned off.

[Anonymous No.6793201]

>>6793161
Okay you're fucking trolling

[Anonymous No.6793203]

>>6793194
>neither do you
Do you know him?

[Anonymous No.6793204]

>>6793186
This. Record or cancel.

[Anonymous No.6793206]

Honestly it's even more sad when an artist goes from actually drawing to doing AI instead

https://twitter.com/Kisou00/media
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/54501446

[Anonymous No.6793208]

>>6793206
In the long run that`s a good thing, scum filters itself, just like in broth.
>David Gemmell- “In any broth, the scum always rises to the top.”

[Anonymous No.6793219]

>>6793208
>David Gemmell- “In any broth, the scum always rises to the top.”
Just like top threads on /ic.

[Anonymous No.6793222]

>>6793219
On nu /ic.

[Anonymous No.6793227]

>>6791731
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.6793228]

>>6793203
he's posting on /ic/ so it's a given

[Anonymous No.6793230]

>>6793228
No.

[Anonymous No.6793231]

>>6793161
that looks straight up worse than the AI shit you find on /g/ or /h/

[Anonymous No.6793233]

>>6793206
so sad... :(

[Anonymous No.6793235]

>>6793231
No.

[Anonymous No.6793237]

I find it fascinating what AI can pull off

but always when I get something that starts working then there's some new issue, like how faded this pic is

[Anonymous No.6793239]

>>6793231
You don't understand. Don't you see... THE SOUL?

[Anonymous No.6793240]

>>6793237
COOOOOOOOM UUUHHHHHH IMMMMMM GOOOOONA A AA A ACOOOOUUUMMMMM AAAHHAHAHAHAH IIIIMMM MCUUUUUMIIIIINGGGG AHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.6793241]

>>6793239
Sarcasm sir. Idiot.

[Anonymous No.6793254]

>>6793237
why do aitrads always post generic anime elves ad nauseam if it can actually do a wider variety of characters??

[Anonymous No.6793256]

>>6793254
it's artshitters deliberately posting crap

[Anonymous No.6793261]

>/ic/ - Artwork/Critique
>"artshitters"
Is traffic on /ic/ really so big? Or it's the stable (You) generation because lack of mods?
/v/ is bigger and better in this regard. So why /ic/?

[Anonymous No.6793262]

>>6793254
Because when "ai"retards try a different style it hits the uncanny valley. also "ai" isnt real its just machine learning. "ai" is just empty techbro hype. the new silicon valley moneymakers are data and subscription models. companies are pivoting hard to change their revenue, because baby boomer back venture capital firms are pulling out.

[Anonymous No.6793263]

>>6793261
people on /ic/ are so fragile that people come here to poke them with sticks

[Anonymous No.6793264]

>>6793194
>you can hide layers from screen recorders with certain software
doesn't matter, the drawing requests would come from chat, and will include shit AI can't handle.
>pikachu cut in half, and his innards are jellybeans, ash is vacuuming them up and he is wearing a tuxedo while hanging upside down from a tree branch
the stream is not to draw a specific image to completion, but to just draw, have fun, like you'd see on a drawpile, anondraw or such.

[Anonymous No.6793265]

>>6793262
literally who gives a fuck if it replicates human cognition lol, the purpose of an image generator is to generate an image, such an non argument

[Anonymous No.6793268]

>>6793263
Fuck you. No.

[Anonymous No.6793269]

>>6793262
>ai" isnt real its just machine learning.
AI: Artificial Intelligence
Artificial: It's a man-made machine
Intelligence: according to webster the definition of "intelligence" is
> the ability to learn or understand or to deal with new or trying situations
Which, as you might have guessed already, is what these models excel at.
Machine learning and AI are the same thing, cutie.

[Anonymous No.6793270]

>>6793265
You shat yourself big. Now wipe yourself out of .ic.

[Anonymous No.6793271]

>>6793263
Kek this. It's been a while since I've seen someone so sensitive and genuinely angry on 4chan.

[Anonymous No.6793272]

>>6793270
lol you can't even hold a coherent conversation

[Anonymous No.6793274]

>>6793272
>LOL

[Anonymous No.6793277]

>>6793263
>people on /ic/ are so fragile
This is nonsense if you look at /ic/s history.
Posting AI on /v/ will give you more (You)s per second/cents per post than here.
Typical AI thread on /v/ has 200IP/500 posts in 1-2 hours.
There should be a deeper, more personal reason for spamming /ic/ (NGMI, envy, vendetta etc)

[Anonymous No.6793279]

>>6793269
so sad that you have to use >webster to make your point. when in reality intelligence is mental quality that consists of the abilities to learn from experience, adapt to new situations, understand and handle abstract concepts, and use knowledge to manipulate one’s environment. which ML or "ais" can't do

[Anonymous No.6793281]

>>6793277
Don`t feed pederasty losers. As simple.

[Anonymous No.6793282]

>>6793277
lmao I love reading AI thread on /ic/ due to the schizophrenic screeching it causes

[Anonymous No.6793284]

>>6793279
Kek, trash still calls "ai" ai.

[Anonymous No.6793286]

>>6793277
>There should be a deeper, more personal reason for spamming /ic/ (NGMI, envy, vendetta etc)
I can't speak for the other AI bros here, but I started posting here yesterday and noticed how insecure people here are when you even so much as mention AI.
I've been doomposting since then, but will stop now because I feel like it stopped being fun now that there's more AI bros joining in.
AI isn't going to make you obsolete, AI isn't going to ruin the world, AI isn't going to kill art.
Please for the love of god stop being so sensitive and gullible. All it took was a few buzzwords and the (you)s started flowing in.

[Anonymous No.6793288]

>>6793282
>schizophrenic screeching
Like yours, you ain`t funny just annoying.

[Anonymous No.6793289]

>>6793227
Good argument, but have you considered... >>>/lgbt/ ?

[Anonymous No.6793292]

>>6793288
>no you
is everyone here mentally retarded?

[Anonymous No.6793294]

>>6793292
You are.

[Anonymous No.6793295]

>>6793282
>due to the schizophrenic screeching it causes
But most posts here are just bland samefagging. It's fake. Almost /vg/ style ritual posting from same anons (judging by time).

[Anonymous No.6793296]

>>6793295
>schizophrenic screeching of zoomers, aisirs, /polfags and idiots.
Besides this /ic is great.

[Anonymous No.6793297]

>>6793286
remember, the sensitive ones have not got fully developed frontal lobes, hell, half of them are probably going through puberty right now.

[Anonymous No.6793298]

>>6793297
>>schizophrenic screeching of zoomers, aisirs, /polfags and idiots.
Makes sense.

[Anonymous No.6793301]

>>6793298
To add trolls and sjws.
Another puzzle solved.

[Anonymous No.6793306]

>>6792075
>AI is (or will be relatively soon) human level intelligence. Think about what that means.
It means you've been snorting Kool-Aid powder. Artificial General Intelligence has been "just around the corner" for literal decades, and every time the experts in the field have been asked, they moved the date ahead.
https://philpapers.org/archive/MLLFPI.pdf

>6791082
>How do you feel about people lying about their art not being AI?
I don't care. Stop making these shit threads.

[Anonymous No.6793307]

>>6793286
>Please for the love of god stop being so sensitive and gullible. All it took was a few buzzwords and the (you)s started flowing in.
Nothing here you see is real.

[Anonymous No.6793309]

>>6793306
>>AI is (or will be relatively soon) human level intelligence. Think about what that means.
Troll or idiot.

>I don't care. Stop making these shit threads.
Blessed.

[Anonymous No.6793311]

>>6793307
Memebrain.

[Anonymous No.6793312]

>>6793286
>insecure
I personally am not worried about AI and believe it should be freely distributed, zero copyright for anything ever produced with it.

But I come here to talk about drawing, not to talk about AI, so it's my duty to tell every single pajeet to go back to >>>/g/

[Anonymous No.6793314]

>>6793289
LGBT is not an idoligy you subhuman -100 IQ cockroach, if you're interested in da gays, just join them and get the fuck out.

[Anonymous No.6793315]

>>6793312
>But I come here to talk about drawing, not to talk about AI, so it's my duty to tell every single pajeet to go back to >>>/g/
Deus Vult, Amen.
>>6793314
Idiot, troll, clown.

[Anonymous No.6793317]

>>6793315
being retarded is not trolling anon.

[Anonymous No.6793321]

>>6793317

[Anonymous No.6793334]

>>6792075
>AI is (or will be relatively soon) human level intelligence
Its another /g/ singularity retard. Why the fuck are you here? You dont draw, you aren't here to draw.

[Anonymous No.6793350]

>>6791103
There are three kinds of people who support ai

The new artist who doesn't have experience and thinks its a cool new tool, or a shortcut to getting better fast. They want to be a good artist and AI lets them.

The old artist who probably spent much of their adult life drawing, either trad or digital. They're burned out but they're also still /beg/. They see AI as salvation, and as a reward for sticking to it for this long. They feel they deserve to be helped by AI, after all, they already put in the hours.

I'm not saying either of these people are bad. If generating AI art makes them happy then they should keep doing it.

The third kind is the person who has no interest in creating art before they discovered AI. Grifters fall into this category but there are people who just like prompting or whatever its called and are not trying to pretend to be artists. The problem is grifters will disguise as the other two kind of guys, and create confusion.

[Anonymous No.6793351]

>>6793350
there's also people like me who felt devastated over it but after some time letting it sink in I learned that crying over it literally won't make it go away so have since adjusted my world view to be compatible

[Anonymous No.6793354]

>>6793351
sorry instead of "support ai" I meant "use AI". I am not really against it either.

[Anonymous No.6793355]

>>6793351
>since adjusted my world view to be compatible
Weaker than ai pests.

[Anonymous No.6793361]

>>6793355
it's literal tranny mentality to refuse reality for what it is, coming to terms with things that you don't like is actually rather hard and it's weak people who can't do it

[Anonymous No.6793362]

>>6793361
You are weak, spoiled even.

[Anonymous No.6793363]

>>6793362
how come? I've learned acceptance and that reality doesn't center itself on me and my needs and wants

[Anonymous No.6793366]

>>6793363
>acceptance
The more you know who you are, and what you want, the less you let things upset you. You know that you are weak.

[Anonymous No.6793367]

>>6793355
>>6793362
>crab mentality
anon, just because you're stuck in your NGMI mentality, doesn't mean you should attack people for trying to make it...

[Anonymous No.6793371]

>>6793366
I don't understand what you wrote because I've come to accept generative AI

[Anonymous No.6793373]

>>6793367
Troll gtfo.

[Anonymous No.6793378]

>>6793307
>pic numbers
absolute newfag

[Anonymous No.6793379]

>>6793367
>NGMI mentality
Is accepting ai. Ngmi.

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>they have been bating and trolling in AI threads for a week straight without breaks
Make yourselves useful and run pic related through the meme machine

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>>6793383
ai sirs we can`t stop losing...

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>>6793350
>but there are people who just like prompting or whatever its called and are not trying to pretend to be artists
Feels like this board is in complete denial of this kind of people. This shit is very fun to do and I never was really interested in art because I don't find process of drawing really interesting and/or rewarding. But yeah it's true there's fuckloads of grifters and retards who just flood art websites with completely unappealing trash

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>>6792204
based comfy poster

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>>6793401
>I never was really interested in art b
Wow, the AItard admits he is a tourist shitting on /ic/, what a surprise.
Did /g/ banned you?

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>>6793350
>They want to be a good artist and AI lets them.
If you consider writing words and getting an image back with no artistic control, being an artist.

> there are people who just like prompting or whatever its called and are not trying to pretend to be artists.
Sure. And it's addictive. But it's not fun, after a point. without drawing it yourself. This is the whole point of being an artist, to draw your ideas in the way only you can. You will never get what you want by prompting.

might as well google search and feel good that your search results are accurate

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>>6792204
its curious how bad tagging in danbooru and that guy (you know who) posting 1 or 2 drawings per day for 13 years made all the anime AI generated pupils look like that
I guess thats the power of just draw

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>AI art looks sou-...

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>>6792854
what was his art like before ai generators?

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>>6793582
People just use settings that fry the eyes.

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>>6793584
-lless, retarded pajeet

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>>6793584
>lless

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>>6793588
I should start using adetailer.
Or atleast some form of upscaling.
The reason pupils get fried like that is low resolution.

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ai coom art mogs the majority of coom artists

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>>6793596
Adetailer is good but it's the wrong vae that consistently fries the eyes.

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I still haven't seen a single piece of AI "art" I'd actually call "art." It's all technically competent, stylistically samey illustration of similar subject matter. I think that's why it never bothered me that much, and is actually something I'd use in my process if the technology ever became good enough. Currently and foreseeably it's only as creative as the end user's imagination, and most of the non-artists using it have shown, unsurprisingly, that non-artists have zero imagination (and most artists are barely any better).
I have a small AI art folder and it's in my fap megafolder, not my art inspo folder.

The typical rebuttal to this, if there even is one, is that AI ""can"" be ""trained on"" these highly original ""styles"" to churn out something fresh-feeling
Then why isn't it? Why do I so seldom see any work demonstrating genuine artistic merit/originality?
It seems to me AI is just another, deeper notch in the internet content slop machine, no different from stock photo repositories fundamentally. Which will likely threaten commercial jobs as it improves, yes, but can never kill art itself. You still need a visionary piloting the machine it seems.

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>>6793607
What VAE do you recommend? I use the SDXL0.9 VAE since apparently the 1.0 one distorts your image or something

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>>6793611
I don't use sdxl, only tried it for seeing how text prompting works. Don't see any reason to use it for anime.

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>>6793608
I only use it foor masturbatory purposes but as you see it can sway away from the most stereotypical anime look if you guide it to, perhaps you mean something more artsy in some other sense, idk but for coom shit it's pretty good, by no means flawless of course

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>>6793608
Because you immediately dismiss anything that is AI generated. If your pic related was AI gen, you'd consider it to be meaningless garbage.
AI is undoubtedly very limited but it can churn out abstract stuff quite well.

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even if you don't like the subject matter you have to admit that this is technically and stylistically quite good

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>>6793623
I don't get it. Where is the cloaca?

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>>6793629
the cock and balls are just an artistic expression my man

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I have thousands of these random gens and I find them remarkable even if they're not perfect, they're so close that I find it hard to believe this tech suddenly exists for everyone to use

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>>6793622
>duuhh, you is just a biased doo doo head!!
That the best you can do? Show me a piece of highly original AI if it exists. Show me the AI Taiyo Matusmoto, Toriyama, Carlos Nine, Robert Williams, Kandinsky, Klee, Miro, Picasso, Szukalski, Sottsass, Klimt
I'm expecting vague textural/atmospheric surrealism at best, it can kinda do that half convincingly due to its basal state of producing fucky distorted art

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>>6793643
Yeah it certainly can't produce scenes like on the pic you attached, yes. It can't do battle scenes or scenes with meaningful interaction unless you edit the pictures yourself, but I guess that would be AI-assisted.
But for biased doo doo heads it wouldn't matter anyway. Even if the tech progresses and stops being bad at interactions you'd start complaining that it doesn't suck your dick or some ridiculous shit like that. This stuff is enough to render 90% of illustrators/commission artcels obsolete but no shit it's not good compared to the more skilled ones.

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>>6793643
>Show me a piece of highly original AI if it exists
Show me a piece of highly original "real" art if it exists.

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press a button and the computer goes whirrr and I get an endless supply of shortstacks that eclipse most artists

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>>6793664
Nigger, it isn't complicated. AI "art" will be capital-A Art (Arte with an "e") the day it passes the visual Turing test. I shouldn't even be able to tell it's AIslop, it should completely full me into thinking it's totally original.
By your own admission it's the coom illustration killer so it isn't even close to being there
>>6793666
Already posted 2 examples above. No need to play the contrarian. You and I both know you've never seen visuals like that before, unless it was by those artists (Matusmoto and Williams).

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>>6793686
Coom illustrations and pinups are quite significant part of the market. I personally never claimed that non-AI art will be rendered completely obsolete, but the markets will definitely shrink unless artists are able to lobby some kind of dystopian Anti-AI surveillance measures.

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pretty much any character can be done with any style

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Would it make you guys feel better if the AI was a cute woman?

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>>6793602
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>>6793604
I will blow endless loads to this, does that make me a hypocrite?

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>>6793720
nah, for most people porn is just the product

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>>6793716
Depends, can she draw Pikachu split in half, his innards made of jellybeans, while ash hangs from a tree vacuuming the beans? If so, I'll marry her.

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