How can I go from /beg/ to /pro/ in a year?

[Anonymous No.6782462]

Look. I know the usual "you shouldn't look for instant results" shit but I don't care. We have maybe 5 years left on this planet before massive depression or apocalypse and I'm nearing 30. I don't want to die as a mediocre artist. I've drawn for most of my life but it's shit. Yes I compare myself to others, I don't give a shit about whatever ad hom you want to throw at me. Yes I want fast solutions. Yes I want a shortcut. Time is running out and I can't afford to waste a decade getting gud.
Is there anyone here who has seen fast improvement? What do you think helped you the most?

[Anonymous No.6782466]

You made this thread already. If nothing said there helped, you're going to die mediocre no matter how long you have to learn.

[Anonymous No.6782472]

>>6782466
You're probably right desu.

[Anonymous No.6782475]

>>6782462
Your best bet is to get mentored. Thing is, nobody wants to mentor a beginner on an anonymous forum for children’s cartoons.

[Anonymous No.6782481]

Show me that you have potential. I can tell from a glance at your work.

[Anonymous No.6782482]

>>6782462
use a grid. get into hyper-real pencil or color pencil drawing. spend 500 hours to draw morgan freeman, walter white, and a chick with water on her face and rake in the likes.

[Anonymous No.6782484]

>>6782462

[Anonymous No.6782496]

>>6782462
by posting frogs and not drawing, obviously

[Anonymous No.6782506]

don't listen to them OP. i was in your place, desperate for the magic bullet, the shortcut, the answer

and believe me, i found it. now 14 months later i'm drawing qt girls on public transit so beautifully they end up blowing me 9/10 times. i'm selling sketches on etsy for three figures, my porn patreon is approaching five figures, and i have my first gallery show next month

sadly i don't have time to share the secret with you - i'm meeting todd howard in 30 mins to discuss becoming lead concept artist on TES 7 - but whatever you do keep looking and don't waste your time by drawing, not until you find it too

[Anonymous No.6782508]

>>6782462
This is unironically why AI will take over. Nobody wants to grind for years and years.

[Anonymous No.6782511]

I drank a sprite from the McDonald's fountain and they were refusing the coke tube and honestly that's where all my gains came from

[Anonymous No.6782521]

One year? That's a tough one.
You best bet is probably to get a dedicated tutor, someone who can course correct any mistakes as quick as possible. Or maybe working at the same workplace as god tier artists, so that you might pick up on their habits

[Anonymous No.6782532]

>>6782521
I'm going to look into paid mentors. Hopefully some will do it online

[Anonymous No.6782541]

>>6782462
If you are already capable of drawing it will be easier.
I'd say it's possible for a beginner artist to do the same stuff as a master artist, it just takes them longer and more effort.
I think it also takes skill to notice those little flaws as well.

[Anonymous No.6782543]

>>6782462
u can start by not having the background color go into the frog's eye

[Anonymous No.6782550]

>>6782462
>We have maybe 5 years left on this planet before massive depression or apocalypse
What makes you say that OP?

[Anonymous No.6782554]

>>6782550
Terminally online schizo.

[Anonymous No.6782577]

>>6782550
I just have that feeling that horrible shit is going to happen very soon.

[Anonymous No.6782580]

>>6782462
What, can’t draw in the apocalypse or something? Stop being a pussy and go study your fundies

[Anonymous No.6782581]

>>6782577
When the american civil war (the sequel) drops, We will finally liberate our countries, get ready non-american anons.

[Anonymous No.6782585]

>>6782577
i have the same feeling too, crazy shit is about to happen

[Anonymous No.6782589]

>>6782577

If you're worried about China I feel like they're going to crumble quickly either without anyone outside of China lifting a finger or by a natural disaster with will cripple their entire country. Mexico, India and South Korea will rise and take China's place.

[Anonymous No.6782590]

>>6782589
Isn't China's military laughably pathetic too?

[Anonymous No.6782591]

>>6782462
Try drawing better

[Anonymous No.6782592]

>>6782590

Probably. I'm more worried about the obvious sleepers in the country.

[Anonymous No.6782596]

>>6782462
kys
For real that's the only shortcut for someone like you.
You don't want to live, so stop living.

[Anonymous No.6782599]

>>6782462
>We have maybe 5 years left on this planet
People be saying that shit since 1964.

[Anonymous No.6782622]

>>6782462
Nigga it's literally fucking over when the china virus disappeared.

[Anonymous No.6782662]

https://davidfinchart.com/where-to-start-and-where-to-go-from-there-a-roadmap-to-professional-quality-art/

David Finch started drawing when he was 20 and got a job at top cow when he was 22, all because he talked to Kyle Hotz and learned how to study properly from the beginning. This guide is based on that talk, and it’s also how he trains his own students. It’ll take you 2 years to go pro, but this is about as fast as it gets

[Anonymous No.6782772]

how do i go from /pro/ to /beg/?

[Anonymous No.6782813]

>>6782475
That.

[Anonymous No.6782829]

>>6782772
drawabox

[Anonymous No.6782888]

>>6782462
>It's so joever in 5 years
>5 years pass
>omg society will collapse in 5 years
>another 5 years pass
>zomg it's joever bros in 5 years we'll be fucked
>5 more years
>guys omg we're all gonna die in 5 years
>5 years pass magically
>guys omg we only have 5 more years
>another 5 years pass without incident
Just admit you don't like drawing or go get tested for paranoid schizophrenia, not only for your own sake but for ours too so we don't have to endure years of you lot making threads like this every other week

[Anonymous No.6782908]

>>6782662
>capeshit
>composition is the easy part
This guide is pathetic. That david finch guy is 100% NGMI

[Anonymous No.6782930]

Tbh the magic bullet is putting in 10 hours of practice in a day and an extra hour or two for information gathering. Split practice 60/40 between drawing and painting of which 50/50 each. Take a reference (real human or artist you want to emulate) and copy it in great detail, the recreate the copy from imagination. Paintingwise you get any copy of a oil painting book and recreate the steps for any digital painting. Then recreate any cool painting you like as precisely as possible. Do it over and over again until you get gud.

If you hyper specialize, you should be able to hack together some pieces that look pro in a year. 2-3 poses that you construct and study from other works over and over. Find an artist you think is /pro/ and recreate their painting style again and again.
Mind you, it takes as long as it does because there is a lot to learn and if you want to be able to work with multiple figures in dynamic poses in whatever lighting, you'd have to know most of it to pull it off well.
OTOH same face straight ahead looking anime art is theoretically easier to make on a pro level because it's easier to mass produce it. Almost the same pose, change a few details, eyes the same and render.

Imo it can be done in theory, but you never would actually put in the work to get there.

[Anonymous No.6782957]

>>6782590
>>6782589
>he doesnt know
You gotta start paying more attention. While Biden was in busy Europe and Ukraine. They're probing our rear. First it was the spy ballons and police stations and now this. Things will only escalate in the coming decades.

[Anonymous No.6782969]

You're too old, don't bother

[Anonymous No.6782989]

>>6782957
they have never seen a lick of real combat

[Anonymous No.6782993]

>>6782957
The US has been flying spy planes and recon satellites over Russia and China for literal decades without starting an armed conflict.
This is just what super powers do.

[Anonymous No.6783695]

>>6782957
>You gotta start paying more attention. While Biden was in busy Europe and Ukraine. They're probing our rear. First it was the spy ballons and police stations and now this. Things will only escalate in the coming decades.
difference is that the usa will actually send its forces to taiwan if china gets too close.

[Anonymous No.6783799]

>>6783695
Why would the US defend Taiwan?

[Anonymous No.6783818]

>>6783799
semiconductors manufacturing

[Anonymous No.6783823]

>>6783818
It's exactly why I want to git gud fast. Shit is about to get really bad and everyone is pretending it isn't.

[Anonymous No.6783830]

>>6783818
that's it? You sure that's enough to start a war?

[Anonymous No.6783837]

>>6783823
There are factories being built in Arizona and Texas. We soon won't need them. Quit worrying about shit that don't matter and draw because I bet you 2030 will come and nothing happens.

[Anonymous No.6783844]

>>6783830
They won't stop with Taiwan. They'll go after Japan's islands and the Japanese sea as they showed aggression about that in the past many times.

[Anonymous No.6783854]

>>6782462
>We have maybe 5 years left on this planet before massive depression or apocalypse
Dude I'm old af (I remember Reagan and wore a Michael Jackson Thriller jacket as a kid). Trust me, the world is always fucking ending.
>I'm nearing 30.
lol so you're a kid.
>Yes I want fast solutions. Yes I want a shortcut.
lol, good luck.
But serious answer: since I wasted a lot of time, I'll tell you what not to do: no need to memorize every muscle for anatomy, and to autistically think you need to study every aspect of art (this is something that happens throughout your life WHILE working on your art).
Find out exactly WHAT type of art you want to do and customize what you learn from that. I want to primarily draw in a cartoony style, so I jumped to the chase. I found that Rodgon (who an anon recently dismissed as just a 'sketchlet') teaches in a way that fits me, and in my estimation simplifies in a way that gets you drawing figures fast (if you want to test him, just watch his "Swoosh and Ball method" video and draw along).
Now the problem with art is that there is NO ONE WAY. There is no magic trick that will work for everyone, so stop looking for it. That's why "just draw" is the best advice.
I also find working on actual projects helps. Work on a piece/comic/whatever, see your weak spots, and then go back to training for those particular weak spots.
Also stop letting zoomers convince you 30 is old. You're not even middle-age yet, anon, get a grip.
Godspeed.

[Anonymous No.6784981]

>>6782462
Draw 16 hours a day. Copy bridgman twice, no copy it 5 or 6 times. Then copy anatomy books 5 or 6 times. Then copy your favorite manga 5-6 times. Do it over and over and over and over and over and over again until you're good. But before you do all of that, you need to program 3d thinking into your brain, and the best way to do that is to draw cubes, spheres, and cylinders in varying perspectives, squish them stretch them change their contours do that for a few weeks 16 hours a day and then you're good to do the copy grind.

[Anonymous No.6785081]

Hey OP! I'm on a similar boat as you though mine is already sinking lol

I gave myself 365 days to get to low int(mastery 2 in this chart), I have 109 days left and I still barely know any construction lol

But I know it's possible, I've seen it happened numerous times and I asked a lot and I mean a lot of pros in all sorts of social media in how they weight my odds

They said it's possible and that's good enough for me and that's all I need
I wouldn't listen to what most people here have to say about that though, a lot of them just want to keep us down (though there's still a lot of good folks around here)

I just know it's possible to get somewhere

Maybe it's not where you want to be and maybe not for me anymore but maybe there's still hope for you

I wish I could help more and give you directions, but if i could i wouldn't be here anymore lol

Just please don't give up yet, one of us has to make it

It's going to suck and it's going to feel awful the whole way through, I know it has for me, it's going to be a lot of studying and a lot of self loathing
I know people like us with a ticking bomb on our heads don't get to draw much for fun
But you have to push through

We have to try, it's the only thing we can do at this point
Even I can't make it
I hope at least you can

[Anonymous No.6785185]

>>6785081
thanks for that picture dude. It's a nice guideline if it's accurate

[Anonymous No.6785294]

>>6785081
hmmm, so the 6th mastery is hentai?

[Anonymous No.6785298]

>>6785081
this image shows like 2 levels of """""""mastery"""""" its just another dime a dozen /int/ soft bragging under the guise of a "tutorial"

[Anonymous No.6787078]

>>6783854
Dude-anon giving genuinely good oldfag advice. You should probably listen to this one OP. And yes, zoomers thing anything past fetal stage of life is basically one foot in the grave or some other such retarded shit mindset kids have. Ignore them OP, they just learned how to drive a couple years ago, they don't know jack shit.

[Anonymous No.6789649]

>>6782462
With this mentality you’re ngmi. You think getting gud will also help you get your life in order, but it’s the other way around. Get your shit together, get a job doing whatever and be miserable for a couple of years and leave your parent’s basement and THEN you can focus on getting gud.

There are no shortcuts. It’s gonna suck all the way to the top.

Embrace the suck.

[Anonymous No.6789657]

>>6782462
You are better off learning to code in one year.

[Anonymous No.6789676]

>>6789649
The world is ending retard i don't have that kind of time.

[Anonymous No.6789683]

>>6782957
They would have to organize an operation more complicated than D-Day.
Meanwhile, all Taiwan has to do is sit in a hole, wait out the bombardment, and shoot whatever ccp chink lands on the beach. And this is assuming any boat gets past the counter battery and submarine rape.

[Anonymous No.6789724]

>>6782462
Sad that no one told you this but I mean it is true.
Just look around you. The Japanese artists progress at a rate no westerner can compete with.

What you need are the materials that they use themselves.
You have to go looking for them. They are not out there just for any foreigner to just easily get.

It's out there. Keep looking for it. Once you finally get the book every Japanese artist uses to make it, you can finally start drawing. No use to waste time with inefficient methods before this.

Godspeed anon.

[Anonymous No.6790283]

>>6782957
>Believing the news in current year +8
The spy balloon wasn't Chinese, it was American. Most of them aren't seen

[Anonymous No.6790616]

>>6782462
This
>>6789724
Learning Japanese is a pre-requisite before you even start drawing stick figures or else you're permanently ngmi

[Anonymous No.6792917]

>>6785081
>I gave myself 365 days to get to low int(mastery 2 in this chart)
Anon... You should be on this level after a 2 months of studying figure drawing. This is what majority of begs can do after several months of drawing, going from absolute 0. You should aim for level 3 at the least in one year. Even lvl 4 is entirely achievable, if you focus specifically on figure drawing.

[Anonymous No.6792922]

>>6785081
Also this chart is very ironic, evidently the artist is still on mastery 3 themselves, because he can't into perspective of lvl 4 and 5, the foreshortening is entirely incorrect, the legs are tiny in comparison to the rest of the body.
And lvl 6 is just his lvl 3 with a bit more shading.

[Anonymous No.6792923]

>>6785081
Can you post your own work? Not even using it as an insult, I'm genuienly curious.

[Anonymous No.6792925]

>>6782462
>How can I go from /beg/ to /pro/ in a year?
You can't. Stop being a retard.

>I don't care
Then keep being a retard.

[Anonymous No.6794275]

>>6792922
>>6785298
>>6792923
nta, but this chart is 7 years old
his art probably got better

[Anonymous No.6795458]

bumperino

[Anonymous No.6795648]

>>6782462
you want to do this in a year? i hope you're independently wealthy. if you're working a job or going to school this will 20x more difficult.
you're going to need a strict schedule, and you're going to need to stick to it everyday.
the first thing that's important to note when learning is that it's a waste of time to grind more than four hours in a row. after a while, you quit engaging in the same way and the brain kinda shuts off. this can be 'fine' if you're a pro, and your C+/B- work can still pay the bills, but when learning we always want to be pushing ourselves to learn first and foremost. I'm going to assume you want to get good at drawing and painting, so that's what we're going to focus on.
Our goal is to squeeze two good 3-4 hour sessions in every day, with an extra session or half session in the evening as an opportunity to explore weaker areas and tangential interests (if you're a comic artist for example, this 'midnight-oil' time might be spent working on lettering, or shaping word bubbles, etc.)
>1/3

[Anonymous No.6795650]

>>6795648
As the year progresses, we'll want to progress the intensity/difficulty of the study, but everyday will look about the same:
>5:00AM - Wake up, eat breakfast, drink coffee, smoke a cigarette, shower etc.
>5:30AM - Warmup. Small sketches, gesture drawing of the dog, markmaking doodles, etc. Nothing cognitively challenging. Just holding something in your hand and fucking up some newsprint or your sketchbook. We'll spend 15, 20 minutes like this. You can smoke while your work, sure.
>6:00AM - Observational drawing. Breadth. This is the meat of things. From 6 to 10 you will draw from life. Diversity of subject matter is key. You will draw yourself in the mirror, you will draw the things on the coffee table, you will go to the park and draw trees, draw strangers. You are a walking eye, and you exist to record things on paper. That's it. Go to the zoo. Go to parking lots. Anywhere, everywhere, everything. Just Draw. Lots. If travel time is included, this block may well run 6+ hours. Just be sure to keep the cognitively challenging drawing time to a reasonable window, still have a long day ahead of you.
>10:00AM - We take a break. Go for a walk, meet a friend, read a book. Do anything but art for awhile. Low impact activities, cognitively speaking. Exercise is OK though. After lunch, we'll get back to work.

[Anonymous No.6795654]

>>6795650
>1:00PM - I like to spend this time in the studio/workspace. In the heat of the day, it's good to be inside, and when I'm inside I like to do studies. Focus. While in the morning we were concerned with quantity, here we're shooting for quality time. For the next four hours I suggest doing Master Studies, or long term observational studies, like still lives. Be choosy in whose work you copy. Rembrandt, Caravaggio, and Ingres are a few of my favorites. For the longterm drawings/paintings, I'm thinking in the ballpark of 8-12 hours at most, but more likely just 3-4 such that you might complete a picture every day or every other day. The studies can be any size, but I do recommend working larger if you can afford it.
>5:00PM - We break, eat food, engage in leisure. Don't challenge yourself in this time, again, low impact activities. We are trying to direct all of our brainpower toward art and art alone, and to do that we need rest.
>8:00PM - Here we're getting really specific. Repetitive and technical practice are my preference in the evening. Practicing calligraphy, doing cube/sphere/cylinder/pyramid drills, perspective drawing, whatever you want really. Even gessoing/preparing canvases is a good way to spend this time. You've already had a productive day at this point, try to find areas of practice you could work on even on the phone with someone, or sort-of half watching a movie, for example.
>10:00PM - Most important of all is to get a good night's sleep so we can get up and do it again tomorrow. If you maintain this pace, there's no way not to improve over 12 months time. Will you be a pro? Who knows. But the most important thing is to structure your time and treat it like work. The specific exercises should be tailored to your interests. Keep at it anon. YGMI.

>3/3