[ 3 / biz / cgl / ck / diy / fa / ic / jp / lit / sci / vr / vt ] [ index / top / reports ] [ become a patron ] [ status ]
2023-11: Warosu is now out of extended maintenance.

/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

View post   
File: 475 KB, 1360x1920, mario drawing recs.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6766305 No.6766305 [Reply] [Original]

For all the beginners lurking this board... this is what you must study. Ignore everybody else.

>> No.6766313

>>6766305
lel, no.

>> No.6766318

>>6766305
But I need 2 terabytes of artbooks and video courses so I can scroll through them instead of drawing.

>> No.6766325

>>6766305
Needs more Loomis.

>> No.6766330

>>6766305
ahhh, nice bulge

>> No.6766542

>>6766305
Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain did absolutely nothing for me, and my experiences were always the exact opposite of what the author described. Vilppu's drawing manual looks like a good resource, but I'm not skilled enough to benefit from it yet and I don't know how to change that. Those spherical forms that he says are "so simple people might be tempted to skip them" are impossibly difficult to draw.

>> No.6766552

>>6766542
>Vilppu's drawing manual looks like a good resource, but I'm not skilled enough to benefit from it yet and I don't know how to change that. Those spherical forms that he says are "so simple people might be tempted to skip them" are impossibly difficult to draw.
finally, you are truly awake. Now you are in a position to learn and grow.

Go forth, and continue practicing your beans

>> No.6766582
File: 2.74 MB, 2550x3225, 9780891343370.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6766582

>>6766318
>>6766325
>>6766542
>>6766552

>> No.6766593

>>6766305
Loomis, vilppu, bridgman, hogarth, hampton, anatomy for sculptors, anyone would like to whisper the secret /ic/ nihon jutsu I'm missing?

>> No.6766614

>>6766582
trash book with trash drawings

>> No.6766748

>>6766582
/thread
/board

>> No.6766749

>>6766582
keys to copying

>> No.6766756

but how though

>> No.6766801
File: 2.35 MB, 3508x2480, 78353304_p0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6766801

>> No.6766804
File: 1.69 MB, 2077x1737, 1656836621414.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6766804

>> No.6766805

>>6766749
Drawing is just copying what's in your head.

>> No.6766829

>>6766805
A language is not just words. It has grammar. The underlying structure is what allows for true creativity and expression.

>> No.6766840
File: 49 KB, 540x603, 1593993481504.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6766840

>> No.6766843
File: 88 KB, 736x821, 1593994279450.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6766843

>> No.6766844
File: 192 KB, 658x735, 1593994064172.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6766844

>> No.6766851

>>6766840
>>6766843
>>6766844
nice. Wish Bridgman had used a pen for his drawings too.

>> No.6766933
File: 83 KB, 750x920, 1677413866080628.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6766933

>>6766840
>>6766843
>>6766844
HOLY FLIPPING SHIT HE HAS IT
THE SECRET MONGOLIAN RUINIC SUPER BRIDGMAN
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE WHAT IS THIS BOOK PLEASE DIVULGE THE SECRETS

>> No.6766939

>>6766582
stfu pawel

>> No.6766948

>>6766305
bruh art sucks fucking ass. if you aphantasia it's literally impossible to draw anything without tracing.

and you gotta have a god damn PHD in human anatomy. like if you want to draw with any level of skill, you need to go to med school for 20 fucking years

>> No.6766953

>>6766933
>Bridgeman
>Bridgeman - Japan

>> No.6766964

>>6766582
this book is trash like all other beginner books

>> No.6766965

>>6766939
creepy

>> No.6766967

>>6766948
>aphantasia
not real

>> No.6766969
File: 181 KB, 1270x1417, 1593993937466.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6766969

>>6766933
It's 人体造型基础

>> No.6766970

>>6766967
>Close my eyes
>Don't see anything

oh okay, I guess it's not real then.

>> No.6766985
File: 456 KB, 1120x1556, 1655956062159.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6766985

>> No.6766989
File: 308 KB, 878x1200, Korea.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6766989

I use this.

>> No.6766994
File: 146 KB, 800x1086, 147019835870375663.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6766994

>> No.6766997

>>6766989
post your results

>> No.6767007
File: 181 KB, 1080x1338, s32275599.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6767007

>>6766933
人体
造型
基础

>> No.6767017

>>6766985
These are all great books, but I don't see even 10% of people here to even read keys to drawing, let alone how to draw by Scott Robertson. How do we actually get people to draw? I know their is live stream drawing stuff, but maybe we should start a beg draw live stream, with people giving lessons for each stream or even just a bunch of us watching YouTube tutorials together and drawing and giving critique. I think it would be good for beginners and also good for people who are good like the anonymous aspect of 4chsn, do they can have fun and give people critique without having to have a name.

>> No.6767020

>>6766933
>THE SECRET MONGOLIAN RUINIC SUPER BRIDGMAN

Isn't that just a japanese translation of Bridgmann?

>> No.6767023

>>6767020
それは中国語です。

>> No.6767031
File: 302 KB, 749x751, 1663756297869965.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6767031

>>6766305
>Vilppu made it in Japan
Can feel it

>> No.6767040

>>6766305
w-who is the artist of OP pic...

>> No.6767112

>>6767007
Actually some nice looking figures but I can't find a download, link pretty please?

>> No.6767117

>>6766318
GMI

>> No.6767186

>>6766989
What is this book and could you share a pdf?

>> No.6767225

>>6767112
>>6729756

>> No.6768133

>>6766969
CHINEEEEEESE

>> No.6768142

>>6767020
I have the complete guide and those drawing are not in it. are they in another non-compilation book? I think the complete guide might leave some pages out.

>> No.6768145

>>6767225
what do I do? it's not base64...

>> No.6768172

>>6767225
Thank you, but is it Bridgman or is it Bridgman Like? It's awesome either way, but other than faces, I've never seen so many women in his books.

Style seems more influenced by Bridgman.

>> No.6768174

>>6766614
Those drawings are there so beginners don't feel mogged by shit way better than what they can do. They're there to give you a realistic expectation of what your art will look like as you learn.

>>6766749
Can't learn from art books until you can copy the study mats close enough to learn from them.

>> No.6768190

>>6768145
*ok it was three layers of base64

>> No.6768222

>>6768174
>Those drawings are there so beginners don't feel mogged by shit way better than what they can do. They're there to give you a realistic expectation of what your art will look like as you learn.
kek

>> No.6768325

>>6766318
s-shut the fuck up

>> No.6768336
File: 26 KB, 312x327, 1687350502996729.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6768336

/ic/ doesn't understand that Keys to Drawing isn't a book for beginners. You guys literally wouldn't get it.

>> No.6768383

>>6768336
What is a book for beginners then

>> No.6768386

>>6768383
Fun. With. A. Pencil.
Don't get filtered.
Drawing on the right side of the brain is ok for beginners too.

>> No.6768391
File: 578 KB, 604x805, 1684665321895770.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6768391

>>6768383
Keys to Drawing

>> No.6768395

>>6768391
>Artists
What if u r not an artist yet?

>> No.6768426

>>6768395
ngmi mindset

>> No.6768427

>>6768391
Pyw. If it’s better than Mario’s femboy hentai art, then I’ll listen

>> No.6768484

>>6768383
Don't listen to that anon, it's just a crab. Keys covers observation and seeing, which along with line control is the actual entry point for new artists. Right Side of the Brain has the same damn exercises, it just wants you to buy $50 worth of stupid gimmicks to do them.

>>6768395
Pick up a pencil. Draw a stick figure making an uwu face like the weeb you are. Pyw. Congrats, you're an artist, now start learning like the rest of us.

>> No.6768587
File: 380 KB, 2124x1814, 1603741204886.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6768587

>> No.6768589
File: 698 KB, 3987x2430, 1603741247999.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6768589

>> No.6768593
File: 192 KB, 2048x1506, 1603742772812.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6768593

>> No.6768607
File: 215 KB, 1529x1717, 1603742922816.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6768607

>> No.6768772

>>6768336
>>6768484
What about The Art and Science of Drawing, is that a good one for a total beginner?

>> No.6768778

>>6766305
Where can I find the Terada book mentioned in OP's image? Never heard of it before and it's not available in English.

>> No.6768786

>>6768778
Better bet to ask over in the artbook thread.

>>6768772
Sure, he has a video course you can get from the thread here too. But pick one right now and commit to getting through at least half of it, or else you'll just start hoarding courses.

>> No.6768833

>>6768786
>you'll just start hoarding courses
Too late for that, I'm afraid. Hoarding media is a hobby in and of itself for me though.

>> No.6768858

The one commonality I've noticed with overrated art instruction books is that they are designed for, and praised by other art instructors/school teachers. Think about what that means. Is what makes the life of a public-school substitute teacher easier, necessarily the same as something that gets you to where you want to be? Is that book actually advanced and comprehensive, or does it merely fall comfortably within the realm of the teacher's own understanding?
Find books that are specific. Find books geared towards a specific field or occupation. Find books by authors who can actually do what you want to do.

>> No.6768891

>>6768778
>Where can I find the Terada book
I searched high and low, only finding anons asking the same question. It seems nobody has it, nobody has scanned it, nor translated it.
https://www.amazon.co.jp/絵を描いて生きていく方法-寺田-克也/dp/4756245072

>> No.6768900

>>6768891
*there's a kindle edition
maybe there is hope...

>> No.6768942

keys to drawing is a great first book, it forces you to shut up and draw

>> No.6768980

>>6766305
mini habits is quite good, my dad gave it to me and im going throught it on my work breaks

>> No.6769030

>>6768391
Keys to Copying

>> No.6769036
File: 430 KB, 1012x720, brent-eviston.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6769036

Cam we all agree that the best way to learn how to draw in the current year is Brent Eviston?

Whether it's his video course or his book, the Art and Science of Drawing just makes the most sense, and he's a far better communicator than the vast majority of art instructors.

>> No.6769130

All these tutorial niggers are a rebrand of Bridgman and Loomis. White man marches on.

>> No.6769153

>>6769036
The Art and Science of Copying

>> No.6769158

>>6769036
Good morning Brent

>> No.6769237

>>6769153
It isn't just mindlessly copying like Keys though. He goes into a lot of detail on measuring techniques and volumetric drawing.

>> No.6769377

>>6768587
>>6768589
>>6768593
>>6768607
nice

>> No.6769412
File: 1.96 MB, 2471x705, 1684746914137230.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6769412

>>6769036
Good morning, Brent! I've been enjoying your figure course. Any critique for my torsos? Thanks again, Brent!

>> No.6769428

>>6766305
is that pelvis accurate? the ass on top seems kinda far

>> No.6769447

>>6769036
Of course I agree. Brent's the best, no one does it like him!

I would suggest buying all the courses and his book to support him lol

>> No.6769454

>>6768391
This is the only resource I've found that is even worse than Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain. DotRSotB taught me absolutely nothing, but at least it didn't give me a bunch of crippling misconceptions about drawing.

>> No.6769457

>>6768391
>>6769036
actual /beg/ traps. Why not just study Vilppu, Steve Huston, and Andrew Loomis? They're actually good artists

If you actually fall for the bad art in Keys or Eviston, you never had enough artistic taste to make it

>> No.6769492

>>6769457
>he thinks you're supposed to pick art books based on which one has your favorite pictures

Anon, the people who tell you to skip reading the text in your art books were lying to you.

>> No.6769502

Why are opinions on keys to drawing so extreme? Some say it's garbage while others say it's absolutely essential. Nobody ever bothers explaining why they think what they think

>> No.6769524

>>6769457
Eviston draws better gestures than Vilppu, brainlet.
Also Loomis is a complete meme. Fun with a pencil is a genuinely terrible book.

>> No.6769573
File: 823 KB, 577x859, Screenshot 2023-07-30 140223.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6769573

>>6769524
>Eviston draws better gestures than Vilppu, brainlet.
He's low /int/ at best
>Also Loomis is a complete meme. Fun with a pencil is a genuinely terrible book.
Skip it and do Figure drawing for all it's worth. I'm asking you to use your own judgement, but apparently you can't do that

>>6769492
>nooo the skill of the instructor doesn't matter! buy my course on Udemy for $11.99 only!

>> No.6769625

>>6769502
Easy.
People who hate it = permanent beginners who tried it and gave up after the first 2 or 3 exercises like every other art book they use
People who like it = people who went through the whole book and went on to become successful artists

>> No.6769650

>>6769573
>beg-tier idiot attempting to downplay artists who are far better than him
lmao, you are tragic bro

>> No.6769697

>>6766318
>KEK
I gave up on hoarding books and videos when I read that most professional artists don't bother with this stuff.
They're either self-taught thru "tracing+copying+life drawing+reference" or they went to art school and never read a book on their life.
It sucks that /ic/ is full of NGMI hoarders that don't know better.
Most books and video courses are just useless cashgrabs.

>> No.6769708 [DELETED] 

>>6766318
>>6769697
Shut up. Read/learn, draw, reference: repeat process forever.

>> No.6769756

>>6769650
honestly, this is a really sad reply. Not only are you pretending that I am a bad artist, you are lying to yourself about how good you are. Brent, get off this site, download some Vilppu courses, and sit back and learn. You have a lot of room to grow.

>> No.6769762

>>6769756
You clearly are a bad artist, idiot :)

>> No.6769772

>>6766970
Don't close your eyes then, retard.

>> No.6770355

>>6769524
>abloo abloo eviston draws better gestures than Vilppu haploo abloo
brent you are deserving of your own screencap reply at this point i will make one tomorrow

>> No.6770357

Honestly I consider that particular picture to be good advice solely for the fact of consisting of recommendations given by an actual artist that has made it and whose work is known. In other words, the effectiveness of those books has been tested and proven by at the very least one person. That's more that you can say for the overwhelming majority of advice that you see on this website.

>> No.6770359

>>6770357
wise post. By these standards, the David Finch roadmap would also be good too, as that was the actual roadmap that he used to get good, given to him by Kyle Hotz.

>> No.6770366

how do you draw hot chicks using boxes?

>> No.6770383

>>6770366
Just try it without thinking too mathematically and logically. You know, use the right side of the brain, anon!

>> No.6770390

>>6770366
In Vilppu's book, you start with spheres, then boxes, then you combine the spheres and boxes. The spheres make the breasts and bellies, while the boxes serve as the bony landmarks of the skull, knee, elbows, and hips. They synergize!

>> No.6770744

>>6770355
You are a sad little schizo moron lol

>> No.6770833
File: 88 KB, 725x785, 1667764867021.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6770833

>KEYED to drawing

>> No.6770840

>>6766305
>one-on-one interview going into far more detail on the next page
Where's the next page?

>> No.6770887

Brent eviston -Scientific approach to drawing

This is the best book for beginners IMO, really easy to understand, tons of good exercises.

>> No.6771193
File: 86 KB, 794x452, 1620701786496.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6771193

>>6766305
>>6766325

>> No.6771338

>>6771193
B-b-but the op image HAS Loomis…

>> No.6772208
File: 2.77 MB, 1531x2160, image000.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6772208

>> No.6772210

>>6770840
I was also wondering

>> No.6772214
File: 577 KB, 1360x1920, 63 - s5MkDMt.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6772214

>>6770840
>>6772210

>> No.6772215
File: 574 KB, 1360x1920, 1656835885638.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6772215

>>6772210
i think this is it