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/asg/ - Anime Study General Anonymous Wed Jul 26 05:09:30 2023 No.6762512 [Reply] [Original]

Why You Should Copy Anime:
https://i.imgur.com/zNDsyF0.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbKqIJcIUCw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgjx6y6B_G8
Krenz Accuracy Imgs: https://files.catbox.moe/tklkj8.rar
Krenz Courses: https://asgg.notion.site/Krenz-238090f8a5934eb883fc644bef1d1214

**Strive for quantity AND quality.**

Anime Studying:
>Copy anime references exactly and draw them from memory. Use illustrations, screenshots, anime figures, 3D models, etc.
>Don’t copy recklessly. Use construction, color theory, and other fundamental concepts to rehearse a drawing process that you can later easily manipulate for original artwork.
>Post all of your anime studies. Post even when you’re told not to. Create an art community that actually draws and improves together instead of just talking about it.
>Number your attempts and link to your previous posts.
>Critiquers should lead by example by posting their studies.

General Anime Style Discussion:
>Questions about achieving certain styles/techniques/compositions etc.
>Drawing methods, study habits, resources, tutorials, tools, software, etc
>Be specific and try to post a sample of your study attempts before asking for help.

**Draw copies from good anime styled references to mindfully up our mileage, internalize appealing aesthetics, and learn from each other’s processes and knowledge.**

Recommended Resources:
https://pastebin.com/Yz2scAEc

/mmg/ - Manga Making General:
>>>/ic/mmg

Previous Thread:
>>6748999

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 26 05:10:42 2023 No.6762515 ywnbj

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 26 05:45:29 2023 No.6762538 File: 290 KB, 1000x1450, 230725_sketches_2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6762512 anything I should improve on anons?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 26 08:08:11 2023 No.6762616 File: 1.13 MB, 1320x1619, htrdesdghjjk.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 26 08:56:54 2023 No.6762666 File: 273 KB, 877x620, memescooterlady.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6762515 I've got the asian jeans, anon. I hate to tell you that they don't mean shit to drawing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 26 11:16:13 2023 No.6762770 >>6762515 based

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 26 12:09:03 2023 No.6762822 >>6762616 Fucking terrible. You should be ashamed

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 26 12:12:43 2023 No.6762825 >>6762616 halfu kanota?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 26 13:21:22 2023 No.6762895 I really need to get good at quick sketches to thumbnail ideas

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 26 17:29:36 2023 No.6763150 The Manga Materials links from the pastebin are dead. Could we get a backup up please?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 26 17:40:52 2023 No.6763164 >>6762616 soul

Anonymous Wed Jul 26 17:43:22 2023 No.6763168

>>6762512
>Why You Should Copy Anime
So what, do I literally open the work of artists I like and start copying it down line for line? Is the grid method good or should I avoid it? How do I get the scale, proportions and positions of features right without it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 26 19:20:21 2023 No.6763284 >>6763168 how to copy 101 >>6762512 >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgjx6y6B_G8

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 26 20:31:07 2023 No.6763366 File: 238 KB, 591x1514, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6762512 straffe BTR tekening!!!

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 26 20:45:08 2023 No.6763384 >>6762538 her lower legs feel a bit too thick but other than that you're gangster 9mm ready to go spit some lead!

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 26 20:47:43 2023 No.6763387 File: 24 KB, 524x457, 1673565336123425.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6763366

Anonymous Wed Jul 26 21:03:58 2023 No.6763408
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>apparently now twitter faggots found out about misskey and are migrating there
>check my global feed on misskey
>now i see english posts with lgbt flags in their names and shit
>and finally the worst thing: shitty western art
life is suffering

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 26 21:21:56 2023 No.6763429 How do I draw sexy feet

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 26 21:26:48 2023 No.6763438 >>6763408 Is there any way to filter them? I was considering going there.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 00:21:16 2023 No.6763640 >>6763408 >global feed are you sure its not just some other instance they're federated with?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 00:22:58 2023 No.6763642 >>6763408 >>6763640 Was gonna ask about instances and how they work. I'm not gonna hop on there until twitter shuts down completely but I was curious.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 01:33:47 2023 No.6763715 File: 2.59 MB, 2480x3508, bleth7.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6762512 Well, i am looking for some feeback on how to improve my lineart and what kinda tricks to use in clip studio. Also smash bros girls requests?

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 01:51:42 2023 No.6763738
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>>6763640
>are you sure its not just some other instance they're federated with?
yep im pretty sure, i hope most of them get scared of the nsfw content
>posting study to not get offtopic

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 04:30:17 2023 No.6763867 File: 535 KB, 2249x2747, uhgiuhhlnj.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6763164 it’s a lot different than my old wip the last time I drew her

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 09:40:56 2023 No.6764140 how do I google animation exercises in japanese アニメ練習 wasnt what I'm looking for..

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 13:17:43 2023 No.6764301 File: 713 KB, 1000x924, InkDmnArt_ MaeTheLich_png.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Lich-chan just finished!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 19:23:16 2023 No.6764730 File: 143 KB, 1409x887, uihzop.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] II'm slowly understanding how to copy a head (at least I think so)

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 19:33:49 2023 No.6764750 >>6764730 Where did you find your reference? Is it an artbook?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 23:56:16 2023 No.6765075 File: 191 KB, 524x1278, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Fri Jul 28 00:09:53 2023 No.6765091
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practicing tri linear prespective and not sure if i get it.
happy with the C moons, not so much the weather report.
he doesn't pop as much as i wanted him to, i was going for a sort of he's 3d while the c moons are 2d kind of thing but everything looks 2d.
maybe he'll pop out more if i finish painting but i really wanna get the prespective right first.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 28 00:28:39 2023 No.6765111 File: 651 KB, 1546x1767, my-love-missssaaaakakkakaa.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 28 00:35:09 2023 No.6765114 >>6764301 gangster!!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 28 14:42:32 2023 No.6765943 File: 714 KB, 1239x1077, master.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What is the "copy bridgeman twice" equivalent to anime, if there is one?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 28 14:45:04 2023 No.6765945 >>6763408 misskey is genuinely confusing to navigate with its constant live feed.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 28 14:52:53 2023 No.6765954 >>6765943 Pick an animation sheet from an animation studio and copy what you see. like this guy. >>6764730

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 28 15:23:08 2023 No.6765977 File: 457 KB, 640x640, 1668927570456930.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How would one go on about anime-fying this face without losing key structures that make her face unique?

Anonymous Fri Jul 28 15:34:53 2023 No.6765988
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I drew this last night using a reference, trying to learn software etc. I just started drawing digital two weeks ago after drawing decades ago but stopping for about 20 years. I would love any advice anybody has for me moving forward, thanks in advance.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 28 16:16:24 2023 No.6766024 File: 2.19 MB, 2229x3212, Untitled32_20230728010912~2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6762512

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 28 16:18:03 2023 No.6766027 Mega links dead?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 28 16:26:09 2023 No.6766038 Need the manga materials tutorials if someone could upload them again thanks.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 28 16:54:07 2023 No.6766075 >>6765943 >What is the "copy bridgeman twice" equivalent to anime, if there is one? Same question, but I'm looking for chibi/SD in general, is there a good resource to copy?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 28 17:11:14 2023 No.6766100 >>6765977 There's no "one for all" solution to this. Go ahead try and see how it goes.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 28 17:17:23 2023 No.6766117 File: 1.68 MB, 5000x2500, prac.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6762512 What construction methods would you recommend?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 28 18:23:50 2023 No.6766199 File: 1.32 MB, 807x1234, kuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrruumi.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6762512

Anonymous Fri Jul 28 22:51:14 2023 No.6766621

How do anime head proportions work?

I've heard that the top of the eyelash should be exactly halfway up the skull, but sometimes when I look at professional anime art, the eyes are way lower than that, even on adult characters who wouldn't have their eyes lowered to seem younger or cuter.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 28 23:05:52 2023 No.6766639 >>6766621 Stop thinking, draw and internalize it. There are no rules, stupid idiot.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 28 23:38:15 2023 No.6766689 File: 1.24 MB, 3840x2159, chizuuurrururu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 28 23:54:09 2023 No.6766714 File: 3.62 MB, 1989x2475, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] made a witch, what does asg think

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 28 23:55:23 2023 No.6766718 File: 3.36 MB, 1800x3518, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] front view

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 29 00:03:27 2023 No.6766734 File: 486 KB, 544x680, hat.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6766714 values in the interior of the hat were the most annoying problem for me

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 29 00:11:07 2023 No.6766745 >>6766689 clean your drawing you fucking methhead

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 29 01:29:14 2023 No.6766837 >>6762512 Krenz stole the bargue method and made it weeb friendly?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 29 01:41:02 2023 No.6766854 >>6766639 But I've already internalized incorrect fetal head proportions through years of bad practice.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 29 04:01:22 2023 No.6767024 File: 1.89 MB, 1989x2475, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6766734 thanks. Ill change that king, im thinking of changing the whole thing tho like this

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 29 05:48:52 2023 No.6767127 >>6766714 Kinda looks like her hand is phasing through the inside of the hat. I assume you meant there to be a fold in the brim but its not communicated clearly. Other than that pretty nice and hot

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 29 12:04:10 2023 No.6767425 >>6766745 I struuuuugggggglllleee with da folds man what about respect in contemporary times??

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 29 12:10:45 2023 No.6767431 File: 1.53 MB, 1168x1479, witch.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6766714 looks great but I have a suggestion.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 29 12:11:49 2023 No.6767433 >>6767431 also you missed the golden crescent moon on her left shoulder if I'm understanding this correctly.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 29 13:08:13 2023 No.6767486 File: 108 KB, 1245x840, headstudies.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] how do I get better at copying hair. It always looks stiff and weird. Also angles from top fuck me up, how do you guys copy heads?

Anonymous Sat Jul 29 14:10:27 2023 No.6767562

>>6767486
just like you do , you just keep at it
My shit usually looks weird too, I just keep at it.
But maybe it's pretty fucking pointless.

What am I learning from the Nth ChickenScratch?

Each drawing I make looks even less coherent than the previous one.

At some point everything just devolves into schizo inklings that barely resemble anime girls.
It's tough.

I have been drawing very consistently for a few years now but it's always brutal usually.

I have not improved much at all and people kind of dislike my work.

Anonymous Sat Jul 29 14:23:14 2023 No.6767572
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>>6767486
Your hairs looks pretty good imo, so just keep going, you will get it overtime.
But if I had to give some tip, then it would be divide hairs in bulks/parts and then add/remove shit from it like in pic related.

This video also explains quite good how to do it
https://youtu.be/0Qq4DD5juTE

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 29 15:45:16 2023 No.6767651 >post work >it gets criticized harshly >it still gets used in OP wat

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 29 16:06:16 2023 No.6767676 >>6767572 thanks anon >>6767562 >schizo inkings what

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 29 16:20:04 2023 No.6767685 File: 107 KB, 1332x1473, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6767676 incomprehensible scratchdrawings that don't make sense to anyone.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 29 17:17:50 2023 No.6767733 File: 71 KB, 877x1024, 1374806171863.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6762512 Still waiting on that critique

Anonymous Sat Jul 29 18:00:34 2023 No.6767764

>>6767486
Saitou has a video on this (and others too), but basically the trick is to divide between front hair, side hair, back hair, etc... if you google it you'll find materials for this easily.
Nice heads btw, though the bottom left one is terrible so I'd go at it again if I were you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 29 20:20:03 2023 No.6767910 >>6767733 This isn't anime bro

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 29 21:20:39 2023 No.6767995 >>6767910 I think the same, this might not be the place to ask.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 29 22:33:00 2023 No.6768089 Why does everyone shill yoh yoshinari's sketchbooks? Should I copy his stuff?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 29 22:35:23 2023 No.6768094 File: 674 KB, 804x1605, the_struggleisreal.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6762512

Anonymous Sat Jul 29 22:51:45 2023 No.6768117
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Sorry if this is a commonly asked question, but should I stick do copying from the same artists style until I can draw it confidently, before moving on to the next, or would it be better to copy a diverse set of styles from the beginning?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 29 23:18:42 2023 No.6768147 >>6768117 we can't predict things like this for you If I were you I'd go with all-inclusivity and D I V E R S I T Y ! 1!!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 01:05:50 2023 No.6768229 https://oridays.gumroad.com/l/animestudy/ a guide on drawing anime this is free

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 01:08:06 2023 No.6768230 >>6765091 >tri linear prespective i like this where can i learn more about this

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 01:15:01 2023 No.6768236 >>6767910 you wouldnt say that if it were drawn by a japanese

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 06:06:12 2023 No.6768482 Any translated Krenz YouTube vids?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 06:32:19 2023 No.6768505 File: 242 KB, 1200x831, krenz-cushart-whitebride3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6767910 Is this anime?

Anonymous Sun Jul 30 07:36:42 2023 No.6768602
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I think I'm ngmi, I have tried studying and understanding the body for a year now and still can't wrap my head around basic shapes like ribcage and pelvis.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 08:15:11 2023 No.6768626 >>6768602 Do you mean when trying to draw from imagination?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 08:39:40 2023 No.6768651 >>6768626 No I mean even straight copying from reference

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 09:18:30 2023 No.6768716 Are there any good "small" /beg/-/int/ anime/chibi/furry artists to follow that do stuff in trad, and preferably monochrome too? It seems like everyone and their grandma immediately goes for digital now.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 11:02:07 2023 No.6768791 >>6768626 To add I've always been spatially challenged from young. I forget forms immediately when I can't see them and I've been battling this with panoramas of shit around my desk to keep putting the image back in my mind.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 11:28:59 2023 No.6768804 File: 243 KB, 1920x1080, vlc_aJ8ZzTpD2E.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6768229 thank you

Anonymous Sun Jul 30 11:42:01 2023 No.6768814
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>>6768229
>>6768804
Keep in mind that you need to do the Krenz grinding and probably a Figure Drawing course before this tutorial's method really pays off.

Anonymous Sun Jul 30 12:03:18 2023 No.6768827
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>>6765091
>>6768230
there's probably a good ressource for this somewhere but honestly i just looked it up on google images and felt i got the gist of it.
here's how it's going so far. still a work in progress.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 12:33:08 2023 No.6768844 >>6768505 no that's a soulless chink abomination

Anonymous Sun Jul 30 12:35:56 2023 No.6768845

>>6768602
What do you mean? It's literally just an egg or a box that's rotated randomly ion space. If an egg is easier for you, imagine a line on it from top to bottom, the line goes further away the more turned away it is from the camera/viewer. Maybe get an egg out of your fridge draw a line on it from top to bottom in the middle and rotate it. The middle is always where the spine is / navel

if you're truly retarded try to change your brain by doing insane amounts of lsd and mushrooms or ayahuasca godspeed anon

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 12:46:05 2023 No.6768862 >>6768844 >soulless chink abomination so it's anime then

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 12:52:44 2023 No.6768870 >>6768862 Anime haas emotion and SOVL, this neo classical digital "Painting" is cringe and disgusting to look at. Literally no expression and a mixture of anime style and realism, it utterly disgusts me on a deep fundamental level.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 12:53:44 2023 No.6768871 >>6768870 >>6768862 Chinks have no white DNA, japs have ainu admixture which gives them the ability to produce SOVL just a daily reminder.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 13:00:54 2023 No.6768876 File: 23 KB, 564x544, 1687135477166583.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Krenz shitposting >/asg/ You told me /asg/ is the last bastion of good threads.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 13:04:34 2023 No.6768881 File: 61 KB, 1264x791, 5min4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] a few 5 min photo and yoh yoshinari studies

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 13:17:36 2023 No.6768897 >>6768876 What's wrong with Krenz?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 14:01:48 2023 No.6768937 >>6768876 despite the krenz shilling nobody has ever dumped the krenz courses from OCC yet lmao.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 14:13:33 2023 No.6768952 >>6768482 >>6762512 >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbKqIJcIUCw >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgjx6y6B_G8 anon... and https://youtu.be/594WhCme2pQ

Anonymous Sun Jul 30 16:24:16 2023 No.6769103
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>>6768505
love this type of artstyle, I'm looking to achieve something similar.
don't let buzzword spouting crabs on here discourage you. they'll harp on and on about soul but will disavow any artstyle that doesn't resemble whatever FOTM anime currently airing like the millionth sword art online spin off being churned out by soulless corporates.
just keep grinding.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 16:29:15 2023 No.6769112 File: 111 KB, 1007x942, FtmyTnMXwAEOmev.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is this anime or western trash?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 16:35:50 2023 No.6769120 >>6769103 Based and Homiepilled. Thanks anon, huge gmi energy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 16:39:02 2023 No.6769125 >>6768814 I guess I can find all the Krenz stuff I need in the OP but do you have any recommendations for figure drawing courses? So far I've been reading Figure Drawing for All Its Worth but I have never done any courses.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 19:05:36 2023 No.6769369 >>6768505 this isn't anime

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 19:06:48 2023 No.6769373 >>6763387 >>6768505 this is what anime looks like, for reference, so please go somewhere else I guess.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 19:21:51 2023 No.6769401 >>6769373 >>6769369 nah, your definitionof anime and mine are different. so please go make /gasg/ (Generic Anime Study general) i guess.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 19:23:32 2023 No.6769404 >>6769125 Figure Drawing for All It's Worth is all you need. Even Fun With A Pencil. Both teach you how to do a basic head/body mannequin, which is what you need to start constructing instead of pure copying.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 20:36:47 2023 No.6769520 >>6768505 >doodle

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 21:00:38 2023 No.6769562 File: 2.09 MB, 3102x4116, Illustration152.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Study, also trying a new brush

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 23:08:28 2023 No.6769767 >>6769401 nobody seems to agree with your view on what anime is. I mean by all means keep posting but I think you're selling yourself a bit short.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 23:23:32 2023 No.6769796 File: 238 KB, 352x706, ameameeditsmall.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm trying to make something that looks like a sprite from a slightly dated eroge

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 23:26:54 2023 No.6769802 File: 124 KB, 250x300, 1688705416279567.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6769796 move the mouth up to the middle of the face and it will be complete

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 23:35:55 2023 No.6769818 >>6769796 There's a notable difference between VNs from the 90s, 2000s or early 2010s. Do you have specific examples you're going for?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 30 23:51:44 2023 No.6769863 >>6768952 >https://youtu.be/594WhCme2pQ >... 2.5 years at most to become a pro illustrator from being an absolute beginner owari da...

Anonymous Mon Jul 31 11:37:36 2023 No.6770534
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>>6769863
This finally pushed me over the edge to give up on being pro. I spent 2.5 years from nodraw and am still a /beg/tard. Feels like a weight lifted from my shoulders desu.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 11:59:59 2023 No.6770556 >>6769863 how can one be this good and so full of shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 12:38:51 2023 No.6770616 >>6769863 that's with chink work ethic

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 13:13:31 2023 No.6770677 >>6769103 Who is the artist of your image bro ? Saucenao give me nothing

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 13:34:21 2023 No.6770696 File: 64 KB, 279x285, sig.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6770677 My guy, the signature is right there.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 13:35:10 2023 No.6770698 >>6770696 Uchiha...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 13:49:40 2023 No.6770733 >>6770696 kek didn't even seen it. thanks man

Anonymous Mon Jul 31 13:51:00 2023 No.6770736
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>>6764140
Ask chatgpt. (really)

It's a nice tool for that specific type of doubts since it seems to be language agnostic (meaning it can scrape japanese web content and present in English like in pic related.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 14:09:25 2023 No.6770771 File: 908 KB, 1862x2478, FKiQmFnXoAIcca9.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I love Imaishi when he draws like this, but usually his drawings are rough/flat

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 15:51:31 2023 No.6770910 File: 3.68 MB, 1600x1991, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] aight i redid my witch

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 16:15:04 2023 No.6770945 >>6770910 How long did you study to get to this level?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 19:22:32 2023 No.6771214 >>6770910 cute, would cuddle with

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 19:46:26 2023 No.6771248 >>6770910 something about the dark colors throw me off, hair, gloves ,hat and the bunny suit like they blend together making it hard to appreciate the details and overal coomposition

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 20:03:12 2023 No.6771282 File: 430 KB, 2558x616, attemptt.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Jesus Christ those tits are huge. Where the navel is supposed to go?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 31 21:05:54 2023 No.6771392 File: 122 KB, 1412x858, h3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] tried more heads

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 02:16:05 2023 No.6771798 >>6771248 idk how to fix this anon, it looked good to me... unless i can see how to fix it then i guess ill settle for being called a retard on 4chan

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 02:19:42 2023 No.6771805 >>6765943 copy yoh yoshinari's sketchbook twice

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 02:38:26 2023 No.6771831 >>6762538 who is the character, the design is cute

Anonymous Tue Aug 1 02:40:09 2023 No.6771836

>>6768117
>draw it confidently

For me personally I felt like when I could copy an image to between 90-95% accuracy almost everything became unlocked. I guess at that point you could continue and move onto the next artist or style but you should have obtained the skill to make pretty much any anime character.

I don't think anybody's goal should be to become the best at doing studies (very accurate) but be the best at getting the most out of studies so eventually you can spread your wings and fly away.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 02:46:05 2023 No.6771847 >>6771836 how long did it take/what did you do to get that accurate?

Anonymous Tue Aug 1 03:03:33 2023 No.6771873
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>>6771847
I really just got lucky that I was pre-loaded with accuracy training from regular portrait painting. These are really quite fun because you don't need to start with super complex shapes like a face you can start with literally anything like just a few boxes because 80% of the work is going to be getting the first few marks in the correct spot then after that you can use your own well placed marks like anchors to place everything else. You can just do these exercises 1-3 with an anime portrait to get the same effect https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMX3K3YMbd8

Anonymous Tue Aug 1 03:23:52 2023 No.6771898
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>>6771847
Then just spending enough time in the stage where most things are pretty simple shapes and forms so you can very easily adjust where they are without being super destructive. Also I guess you could just copy something line for line but what is more interesting is as you go through the process of copying you can kind of break down and figure out "How can this apply to my workflow when I am not copying" so you can use your own base figure and build the details up on-top of it and you are just reinforcing your own workflow you can use outside of copying as you do the copy. To the point where eventually you can just divorce your workflow/figure from the copy and the world is your oyster that character can become anything you can imagine.

Anonymous Tue Aug 1 04:20:38 2023 No.6771955
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Hello anons, I want to comment on a situation of mine.
I have been improving my drawings (I still have a lot to improve but I am certainly not like at the beginning, I am 6 months old as of tomorrow)
And I feel... that I'm stagnating, I haven't drawn something that I like or that I consider decently good since Friday.
Any comments or advice on how to break this mental or practical limitation that I have, I will put a semi-timeline of my drawings. If they tell me the names of the books, it would be great. I have used several of anatomy but perhaps I use very complex ones.
My goal is to be an independent illustrator and earn a little extra money (I say this because when studying this I think you need to have set goals)
Sorry if I post it here in general anime/manga style but it's the style I more or less want to achieve.
And as a last thing, excuse my autistic English, it is not my main language and the people of my language do not seek to improve, only to trace.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 05:35:38 2023 No.6772012 >>6771955 Did you go through all of these already? https://asgg.notion.site/Krenz-238090f8a5934eb883fc644bef1d1214

Anonymous Tue Aug 1 06:15:57 2023 No.6772044

>>6771955
first thing I'd recommend would be to use better paper. that kind of cheap paper doesn't adhere to the graphite well enough so you'll never have the precision you'd like when drawing, not to mention those goddamn lines all over the place. printer paper should suffice
then pick one of the beginner books (vilppu, loomis, hampton, etc) and go through with it so you can learn to draw volumes in space. you seem to be drawing by just winging it without using any form of construction, which results in flat figures (as opposed to volumetric ones, which is the objective) and it's probably the reason why you're not happy with your drawings

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 09:50:13 2023 No.6772237 >>6771873 I used to think the face was complex until I began drawing the rest of the body

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 13:40:04 2023 No.6772463 >>6771392 What anime girl is this? Looks cute, want to try to copy her too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 14:06:45 2023 No.6772480 >>6772044 Thank you very much I will do it immediately

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 14:16:41 2023 No.6772483 >>6771831 just an OC I designed on a whim happy to hear she's cute

Anonymous Tue Aug 1 14:38:55 2023 No.6772498
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It's over for me, I finally realise I don't have what it takes to become an artist. Almost 3 years and I still can't copy a basic head. I'm going to just go back to grinding my 9-5 career to make money and become a commissionfag instead. The dream is dead just fuck my shit up.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 14:39:53 2023 No.6772499 >>6772498 >loomis first mistake

Anonymous Tue Aug 1 14:49:38 2023 No.6772510

>>6772044
anon, sorry to bother you again but... are there any more comments you can make me? I understand the volume and improving the quality of the paper but... are there other things that I should improve after those two aspects? It is the first time that I publish in a place like this and I love the feedback

Anonymous Tue Aug 1 16:28:05 2023 No.6772587

Is there a resource that covers the back(like the shoulder blades) extensively? I'm having a harm time visualizing how they're supposed to look from different angles depending on how the arms are but haven't had much luck finding anything that doesn't just give the general way of how the back looks from behind

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 16:31:44 2023 No.6772591 >>6772499 then show us another method

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 17:34:00 2023 No.6772677 File: 1.47 MB, 1594x2211, 20230801_132821.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6771955 I'd say keep practicing and get some better paper

Anonymous Tue Aug 1 17:42:47 2023 No.6772686

>>6772677
Thank you very much, at least it comforts me a little to know that I can continue to improve.
And I am amused by the paper since it is from a notebook that I had kept since 2008, so the quality of the paper may look bad because it already has a lot of time but I did not want to waste a clean notebook

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 17:50:49 2023 No.6772693 >>6772587 Manga Materials does this. I don't know if the OP link has been fixed yet though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 17:53:38 2023 No.6772695 >>6772498 this man is about to give up when all he needed to do was move the nose to the left lmao

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 17:54:49 2023 No.6772698 >>6772693 Thanks, I'll give it a look or look around it if the links down

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 18:01:35 2023 No.6772706 >>6772498 I don't think I follow. What's wrong with this? Looks fine to me.

Anonymous Tue Aug 1 18:02:12 2023 No.6772707

>>6772698
I was studying a back pose a few days ago and went into the same situation as you coincidentally enough. I found pinterest had some interesting refs too so check over there.
Here's some stuff, link will die soon so grab it now: https://litter.catbox.moe/h8eokj.rar

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 18:08:54 2023 No.6772715 >>6772707 Got it, and yeah this may just be it. Thanks a ton for the quick save there. It's on me if I can't get it down now

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 18:13:11 2023 No.6772718 >>6772715 Good luck, you got this.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 18:59:20 2023 No.6772790 SLEEPYTORCH add pls https://pastebin.com/P951qesP aHR0cHM6Ly9waXhlbGRyYWluLlRPTllPL3UvZFRpR3gxMkU=gx4mjm

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 21:51:23 2023 No.6773035 File: 2.79 MB, 2000x1676, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] tried making a pose for a one of my dudes

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 1 22:27:35 2023 No.6773087 File: 1.24 MB, 1531x2160, 1671384588118.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6772498

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 2 00:04:42 2023 No.6773231 File: 41 KB, 832x868, 1673237844250530.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6773087

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 2 00:39:38 2023 No.6773288 >>6773087 this has to be an inside joke book I bet he and his friends are in a Twitter circle having a giggle in voice chat every day about it

Anonymous Wed Aug 2 00:48:06 2023 No.6773307

>>6773087
>>6773288
I read like half of this book (yes in Japanese) a while ago and there are only a few pages like this. These pages are not meant to be construction guidelines, it's just to put things into perspective.
The book itself is strictly about how to draw hair and it does a good job at this given you like the artstyle.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 2 00:58:09 2023 No.6773312 File: 717 KB, 1955x2624, 20230730234542Illustration1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6765091 >>6768827 almost there

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 2 02:06:22 2023 No.6773360 What's a good resource for learning how to design hair? I get stumped trying to will it from memory.

Anonymous Wed Aug 2 03:14:44 2023 No.6773417
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>>6772498
You better start grinding before you end up stuck in the shitpile like me, amigo.
You want to end up in the same bracket as yours truly? I sure as hell wouldn't want to.

I have seen artists make it from cursed pre/beg/ crap to pros through sheer force of will and dilligent study all day every day for years even if they had to forsake their careers, relationships or health to get there.

They are laughing at you for letting a shitter like me stay in your lane. Will you take the loss or will you fight?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 2 05:40:39 2023 No.6773516 >>6772790 cant open it. https://mega.nz/folder/aHR0cHM6Ly9waXhlbGRyYWluLlRPTllPL3UvZFRpR3gxMkU=gx4mjm does nothing.

Anonymous Wed Aug 2 06:30:09 2023 No.6773539
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>>6772510
where you are right now, I believe the most important is learning to implement construction into your drawings. start by learning to draw basic volumes (box and cyllinder), assembling them into a mannequin, then drawing on top of it. it's really the number 1 fundament, in my opinion
I made a quick redraw of your maka. I sketched a mannequin (construction) then exaggerated the movement with curves (gesture). then there are the more specific knowledge like anatomy, clothes dynamics, etc
all of those would help you so try not to focus too much on a single topic or you will lose motivation. try to learn the overall idea, then move on to the next topic. revisit it later when you feel you need more

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 2 07:53:53 2023 No.6773598 File: 612 KB, 850x1202, sample_e71ece25ebb696ed8b15dc82d0f0990c.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://youtu.be/QhfeJ4dhOY0?t=86 Mika is such a goat

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 2 08:33:13 2023 No.6773632 >>6773598 Visual diarrhea

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 2 08:57:50 2023 No.6773642 >>6773360 Well drawing from memory is just process of drawing something from reference enough you remember the general patterns, you can't really come up with it out of nothing

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 2 09:04:36 2023 No.6773644 >>6772498 You just placed the center line wrong, now you see the point of the accuracy exercise

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 2 09:49:46 2023 No.6773671 >>6772790 Looks like it requires password for decrypting

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 2 11:07:47 2023 No.6773745 >>6773671 blind

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 2 12:45:30 2023 No.6773823 >>6773087 For my boys

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 2 12:46:04 2023 No.6773825 File: 1.23 MB, 1531x2160, 1690928855922202.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6773823 I'm retarded forgot image

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 2 12:46:37 2023 No.6773826 File: 662 KB, 1024x1444, 1690928855922202.translated.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6773825 I'm again retarded uploaded the wrong image

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 2 12:51:30 2023 No.6773831 >>6768876 /asg/ is ground zero of krenz shitposting what do you mean

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 2 13:01:39 2023 No.6773839 >>6772790 404 not found

Anonymous Wed Aug 2 14:51:07 2023 No.6773937
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I just tried again and CANNOT get it perfect no matter how hard I try. I've realised how insanely important each line is, just changing the angle or curve ever so slightly will completely fuck with the perspective and I can't deal with this and I haven't even tried to consider line thickness yet. My hand is fucked up from gripping the stylus, training this shit is a nightmare. I spent 2 hours on 1 fucking head and I am supposed to draw 100-1000??

>>6772695
Btw I did go back and study the nose and how to deform it anime style thx

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 2 16:29:01 2023 No.6774101 >>6773937 Because you'll be practicing making those lines 1000 times, not trying to find them the entire time

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 2 16:39:21 2023 No.6774118 File: 840 KB, 1950x1936, 36744353.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] After three months of copying other artist artstyle i can finally conclude that i have no understanding of anything and just having fun doing this.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 2 16:43:36 2023 No.6774125 File: 1.20 MB, 2691x1536, 32021398.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6774118 but i still want to progress so just say anything at this point because i really don't want to stagnate.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 2 21:08:02 2023 No.6774465 >>6773539 NTA but I can do this with bodies, but putting clothing on top that looks dynamic like this is something I haven't quite figured out yet. Do you have any recommendations?

Anonymous Wed Aug 2 21:30:56 2023 No.6774487
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>>6773937
Your reference drew that far eye too low (in an attempt to foreshortened maybe? Who knows). I had your same issue, and I realized it's easier to start with the center line touching the inner eye corner of far left eye( our left).

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 2 21:38:17 2023 No.6774497 File: 1.11 MB, 849x1200, 77120339_p0_master1200.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6774465 this guy fu-ta is really good at it. try studying the shapes he uses to give the impression of movement

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 2 22:05:18 2023 No.6774534 >>6774497 Thanks, I'll check his work out.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 01:03:58 2023 No.6774737 >>6774487 How am I supposed to know if the reference is wrong? I think that will fuck me up more than anything else in the long run.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 01:06:08 2023 No.6774742 >>6774737 Observe more.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 02:05:41 2023 No.6774827 >>6774737 Compare them to real life.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 03:25:22 2023 No.6774910 >>6774737 All styles that aren't replicas of real life are wrong by definition. An artistic style is nothing but pushing the shapes of shit towards certain "imperfections".

Anonymous Thu Aug 3 06:12:01 2023 No.6775028

>>6774737
I knew it was fucked up because I could tell that the left eye was smaller than the other. You could have also realized this if you placed a line over the top and bottom of the eye like I did and kept it parallel. Then you would notice the left eye was too small as well as the eyebrow too low. This probably kept messing you up over and over everytime you would place the features on your construction. Eyes are generally parallel unless it is an extreme closeup with curved perspective but that is a unique case. Sometimes even the ear placement is fucked because most people wing it. Try a different character model sheet which shows the ear clearly and maybe even the forehead and report back with your attempt. Don't give up or you'll regret it once you realize how easy it gets.

Anonymous Thu Aug 3 06:41:51 2023 No.6775050

>>6773539
Thank you very much Anon, you recommend me to take illustrations of characters and make them with spheres and cylinders to practice construction. And certainly that happened to me these days I have not found myself sufficiently motivated, I will go to do construction so I will publish again in a few days..

>>6773417
Kek, I just left the university to dedicate myself full time to this... It's exciting to bet your future in your own hands without external factors that hinder you more than your effort and a little luck...

Anonymous Thu Aug 3 06:54:24 2023 No.6775066

>>6773539
I want to be honest anon, I know that the construction with figures is essential but since I am in physical form and my paper is not of such good quality, I was worried about the final result because I would end up with a stained drawing. It's stupid I know but in my head I didn't see it as necessary.. I'm still looking for a tablet to go to the next level and not worry about those graphite stain things. (if I have searched in pawn shops and there is not a single one) I'll do my best in construction then

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 07:30:12 2023 No.6775089 Sorry for being a dipshit retard, but I followed the link to Krenz courses and it seems to be a lot of bullet points that you can click for additional information along with images. Is there a video attached to this or something I'm missing? Is this it?

Anonymous Thu Aug 3 08:02:37 2023 No.6775098
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>>6775028
So I can't even use the character sheets done by the original anime staff as the source of truth. Copy anime/learn fundies trying to blend the 2 feels like grasping in the dark.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 08:15:26 2023 No.6775108 >>6775028 >Try a different character model sheet I guess so, I spent 15 min on the face parts and over an hour on the hair, despite my aim was to study the face.

Anonymous Thu Aug 3 09:39:00 2023 No.6775168
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Hello /ic/, very beginner who previously couldn't even draw stick man here.
I am trying to copy the settei at left. I know eyes are not proportional and long but ignore that, I'll get there eventually.
Can someone explain (or link to something that does) how do I start drawing the hair please? Or should I draw her chin/face lines before starting to draw hair?
I have no idea about drawing hairs and stopping at the appropriate height so her head wouldn't look too weird. Maybe there is no single order artists use, but I want to have some help here.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 09:50:11 2023 No.6775176 File: 141 KB, 1080x1180, hair.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6775168

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 10:22:10 2023 No.6775200 >>6775176 Thanks, it didn't turn out as terrible as the previous ones like that. The head's shape is still weird but I like the hair at least https://files.catbox.moe/15mafa.png

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 11:09:24 2023 No.6775231 I'm pretty slow at drawing, so I was thinking of putting a time limit on my studies to force myself to work faster. Would this be a good idea? If so, how long would you recommend I spend on 1 frame from an animation cut?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 11:18:33 2023 No.6775237 >>6775231 I spent about 8 m on my last animation. It lasts 10 seconds. If you can do it faster than that, then u good.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 14:49:54 2023 No.6775440 Do you anons use constructions for faces? I want to make faces without constructions, but I suck without construction. Basically more practice right?

Anonymous Thu Aug 3 15:00:46 2023 No.6775446

Lets say I have some boxes that represent a person in construction. Instead of anatomy, I'm drawing clothes over them. Is there a specific way or helpful tips on how I'm supposed to do it, or do I just imagine how the clothes might drape on top of the boxes?

Anonymous Thu Aug 3 16:20:15 2023 No.6775495

>>6775050
>you recommend me to take illustrations of characters and make them with spheres and cylinders to practice construction
yeah but don't forget to take a look at the books or krenz' lectures as well
>>6775066
it's okay, I didn't get it at first either. later I realized that one of the advantages of construction is to take perspective into consideration over the entire figure and it's a lot easier to do when the torso is still just a pillow like shape instead of a cluster of segments and curves and muscles. when you don't take perspective into consideration, you get what's called 'symbol drawing' which means you're drawing stickers instead of volumes
also, when drawing traditionally, while drawing over construction may increase the visual noise, it can also look quite nice and organic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=333dw23qvaE

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 18:34:10 2023 No.6775647 File: 757 KB, 2446x1971, megumegu.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 18:38:03 2023 No.6775657 >>6769401 homo doesn't understand what anime is kek gtfo

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 18:49:23 2023 No.6775667 File: 566 KB, 1028x692, 3rwer3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what's the lineart lineweight logic here? seems random to me

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 18:50:18 2023 No.6775668 >>6775667 ok

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 18:50:48 2023 No.6775669 >>6775668 thanks

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 18:51:59 2023 No.6775672 >>6775669 your question's a little weird but I'm pretty sure it has to do with conveying form and occlusion.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 18:56:15 2023 No.6775680 Ironic question, but is there a way to grasp qthe essence of Eastern drawing styles without endless copying or jeans?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 18:56:41 2023 No.6775683 >>6775672 why is it weird? I'm trying to understand lineweight

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 18:59:41 2023 No.6775690 >>6775683 maybe think for yourself first before asking here you god forsaken kankerhomo

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 19:00:33 2023 No.6775693 >>6775690 I pondered and I came to the conclusion that it is random so I thought I should ask for a second opinion you fucking faggot

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 19:01:51 2023 No.6775695 >>6768236 no. That's not how it works.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 19:02:22 2023 No.6775696 >>6775693 i hate you!! >::::::::^^^^OOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 19:03:26 2023 No.6775697 >>6775696 fuc*k you too

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 19:04:54 2023 No.6775699 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sd84qRmLtvo IT'S THAT TIME AGAIN!!!! TIME TO LET IT ALL OUT!!! A N G R Y V I B E Z ! !

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 20:39:04 2023 No.6775831 File: 140 KB, 1475x2107, 1691094984085.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Where to learn how to paint like as109. Dogshit work posted to let you know how fucking farfetched such goal is.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 20:53:21 2023 No.6775857 >>6775831 dont worry about painting yet, learn how to draw first

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 20:59:04 2023 No.6775870 >>6775857 Whats the difference between painting and draeinf? Is drawing only with lines?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 21:22:01 2023 No.6775907 >>6775667 the artist is deliberately overlapping forms for more visual clarity. if everything have the same line weight in the piece nothing would stand out and all 3 girls would look like they were fused together.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 3 21:25:34 2023 No.6775913 >>6775870 Yes

Anonymous Fri Aug 4 01:26:19 2023 No.6776273
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>>6774118
>>6774125
besides the regular measurement/proportions things i think the reference does a better job of indicating certain forms like the squish of the belly, and the stretch on the opposite side

Anonymous Fri Aug 4 02:08:44 2023 No.6776308

>>6775667
the thickest lines are the darkest parts with the most ambient occlusion
All the other lines thickness is simply a result of brush strokes, there is no thinking involved, they just do it

instead of thinking why is this line dark you should think where does this line start, what kind of stroke did they use etc

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 4 02:30:55 2023 No.6776329 File: 205 KB, 740x608, help.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] can someone help me with the face? sometimes i feel like something its wrong and i dont know what it is...

Anonymous Fri Aug 4 04:30:06 2023 No.6776476
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this is the same exorcist girl with hime cut and glasses from last request
this time she's possessed by a seductive evil spirit
there are ghostly hands groping her
I tried to add the spirit's face in the back but it turned into garbage so I removed it
suggestions will be appreciated

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 4 04:33:57 2023 No.6776477 >>6776476 Do you have your art compiled anywhere? Megane girls are great.

Anonymous Fri Aug 4 04:46:16 2023 No.6776499
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>>6776477
I only have this other drawing of this character
but sometimes I post other stuff on my pixiv
if you are still interested users/14735673
>Megane girls are great
they really are, brother

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 4 05:35:32 2023 No.6776532 >>6776499 >Oppai loli kuro I kneel. Thanks

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 4 09:08:56 2023 No.6776657 >>6776273 How do you feel the form

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 4 14:56:52 2023 No.6776924 File: 384 KB, 1000x1333, artist study.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] There's something wrong here

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 4 15:14:42 2023 No.6776949 File: 467 KB, 1840x2160, neko.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] from ref, shits hard

Anonymous Fri Aug 4 19:24:32 2023 No.6777353
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>>6776329
left eye is droopy and slightly too small compared to the right eye. the eyes were not aligned too well with the ear height. i suggest you add some extra thickness to the back of the skull, even if it is stylized this will add charm to the overall shape.
the neck can also be worked on, see the top right for a suggestion.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 4 20:31:05 2023 No.6777470 >>6776949 You need to build a construct of 3d volumes under it first and copy with the feel for the form in mind brother, those legs look like 2 flat pieces of paper

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 4 21:36:32 2023 No.6777538 >>6777470 Well I already tried to do that but failed as you can see

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 4 21:37:11 2023 No.6777540 File: 329 KB, 1287x1130, Image 8-4-23 at 4.34 PM.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] some eye studies

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 4 21:46:38 2023 No.6777545 >>6777540 do you know what a study is or means? like you dont get anything right about any of them. the angle, the iris, pupils, size, eyelids, eyebrows - literally nothing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 4 22:22:55 2023 No.6777569 File: 1.11 MB, 1896x3440, krenz.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6777540 anon...

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 5 01:09:09 2023 No.6777851 >>6777545 >>6777569 nta but are you both trolling or am i just blind?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 5 01:11:03 2023 No.6777854 >>6777545 janny should ban you, you retarded botspammer.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 5 01:31:10 2023 No.6777872 File: 256 KB, 800x704, shape.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6777851 nta

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 5 02:05:48 2023 No.6777903 >>6774497 Show pantsu to distract the viewer, noted.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 5 02:13:58 2023 No.6777913 >>6777470 Not that guy but similar problem. How to make shit not look flat?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 5 02:22:47 2023 No.6777926 >>6777851 looks like krenz needs to teach someone a "lesson"

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 5 05:39:34 2023 No.6778127 File: 60 KB, 1048x1399, 20230803_194500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What brush could I use to render like picrel? It seems like cel shading with a mixture of hard and softer edges. Would a hard round with a tapered tip work?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 5 06:33:02 2023 No.6778169 >>6778127 Unironical HRB + soft round. I would recommend yoi to use hotkeys so you could easily switch between them when needed. For example, in my PS, q makes my brush smaller, w - bigger. A makes it softer. s - harder

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 5 06:57:00 2023 No.6778185 File: 484 KB, 2728x1492, 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6774487

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 5 07:12:23 2023 No.6778194 >>6778169 Thanks a ton, anon. This helps me out a lot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 5 07:49:10 2023 No.6778233 I draw traditionally, how should i practice the Krenz perspective homework?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 5 07:53:50 2023 No.6778238 >>6778233 Have you tried drawing you fucking nigger?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 5 08:31:22 2023 No.6778274 >>6776476 >I tried to add the spirit's face in the back but it turned into garbage so I removed it Before I read it, it looked like she was using magic to create hands to simulate someone groping her.

Anonymous Sat Aug 5 09:57:54 2023 No.6778360

>>6778185
Those bottom five lines are arbitrary. You also are pointing out the fact that the left eye still is too small. The ref is still not accurate and you can look at your own two top lines to see that. People can make mistakes you know, they are just skilled at drawing lines so it's easier to hide.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 5 10:12:09 2023 No.6778368 >>6778360 >arbitrary corners of the mouth eye level corners of the collar shoulders bottom edge of that thing under the tie

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 5 11:08:35 2023 No.6778389 File: 1.13 MB, 2400x1387, trb-05-08.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Study

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 5 11:12:27 2023 No.6778392 File: 2.76 MB, 2400x1387, trb 05 08 res.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6778389 Saving as gif messed up the colors quite a bit

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 5 12:24:50 2023 No.6778467 File: 269 KB, 1300x1096, 돼지년.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] From akitsuki itsuki's comic

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 5 13:48:53 2023 No.6778556 File: 105 KB, 1062x942, ryuko2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Any tips for the guidelines? I can't figure out the method these character designers used to align the facial features.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 5 13:50:27 2023 No.6778557 >>6777538 >>6777913 vilppu

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 5 14:40:39 2023 No.6778622 >>6778368 We are not talking about anything but the eyes, and the left eye is fucked up, even with YOUR made up lines that you drew. The left eye still doesn't reach the correct height of the other. That's why it's arbitrary.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 5 14:42:40 2023 No.6778625 File: 140 KB, 1169x828, 1685330878995310.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6778556 It's more useful to imagine it as a rotating 3d object than using guidelines

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 5 17:41:34 2023 No.6778884 >>6778622 You've got some vision problems or some brain problems.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 5 17:45:04 2023 No.6778887 File: 49 KB, 214x246, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6778625 Why left eye is bigger than other one? It kinda doesn't makes sense

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 5 18:34:26 2023 No.6778967 >>6778884 What a strong argument. Stop trying to mislead others when you can't even follow your own perspective lines.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 5 18:40:17 2023 No.6778984 >>6778622 maybe your observation ability will be good enough in another 2 years of copying

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 5 18:41:56 2023 No.6778989 >>6778887 Define- left.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 5 18:46:53 2023 No.6779004 >>6778984 Still can't explain why your perspective line clearly shows the eye is wrong huh? :)

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 5 18:52:09 2023 No.6779014 >>6779004 draw the perspective that shows how the eye should be foreshortened and i will believe you that it is "clearly wrong"

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 5 19:00:49 2023 No.6779043 >>6779014 We're making the same argument then, forget it, move along

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 5 19:14:33 2023 No.6779068 >>6779043 perspectivelet

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 6 03:14:51 2023 No.6779141 >>6779139

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 6 03:15:48 2023 No.6779142 >>6778887 Stylistic choice. It often looks better to do stuff like this even if it makes no sense for greater appeal. Saito Naoki has talked about it a lot in his videos. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jToFL9Hw3_c

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 6 03:38:51 2023 No.6779164 >>6779004 There's nothing to explain, is there? You can throw lines from a roughly guessed vp to hit the opposite corners of everything in the picture. Only begliners are going to whine or "correct" something that meets that sort of standard.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 6 11:37:06 2023 No.6779608 File: 379 KB, 1380x2000, Ed0uZ0dX0AQgoSR.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6778887 Its funny you complain about the eye but not the cheek or the mouth. Forced perspective is fundamental to anime

Anonymous Sun Aug 6 12:14:43 2023 No.6779639

is it a bad thing if I use anime screenshots as reference instead of using a reference of a real person? I like the way some artists draw faces and bodies and I feel like it'd be easier just to copy what I see from the anime rather than using a real person and trying to distort it

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 6 13:22:50 2023 No.6779697 >>6779639 Watch the video in op

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 6 13:46:55 2023 No.6779734 >>6779697 man that's like half a day worth of video to sit through

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 6 14:30:56 2023 No.6779823 File: 242 KB, 1494x1080, file.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anyone draw environments here

Anonymous Sun Aug 6 14:38:35 2023 No.6779835

>>6766199
fun
>>6766714
fun
>>6767651
cool
>>6768094
promising
>>6768881
neat
>>6769112
in the middle
>>6771873
useful
>>6775647
more fun
>>6776924
yes, the perspective of the backgroud and the character isnt coherent
>>6777540
you captured well the way those kind of eyes look, if that was the idea cool, if you wanted to make perfect replicas the you are missing things
>>6778127
selection fill + blur brush
>>6778392
looking good
>>6779608
this
>>6779734
and will save you months of doing silly things

Anonymous Sun Aug 6 17:45:57 2023 No.6780110
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can anyone help me?
I've been trying to learn the loomis method for construction but I can't seem to understand how to use it at all
and not even a single one of the artists i follow said anything about this method so I'm starting to have doubts
maybe I'm just too stupid for this...

Anonymous Sun Aug 6 18:19:54 2023 No.6780152

>>6780110
for gesture -> hampton https://youtu.be/sSzB3ESpfE0
for construction and stuff -> pin2d https://youtube.com/@pin2d516
for using it all -> krenz
loomis is just an idea, good to read it, but not so much if you want to draw things other than 50s caricatures

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 6 18:28:07 2023 No.6780161 >>6780110 loomis approach to heads is fucking trash and just makes new artists confused as fuck.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 6 18:49:49 2023 No.6780211 >>6780110 Do you understand how to put simple objects in 3d space?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 6 18:55:25 2023 No.6780221 >>6779697 >open video >angry chinese noises >skip forward an hour >angry chinese noises >close video

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 6 19:04:24 2023 No.6780243 >>6780221 That means it's good

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 6 19:42:29 2023 No.6780329 >>6780221 turn on the subtitles retrad

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 6 20:25:28 2023 No.6780398 >>6780110 Since this is /asg/ check out these videos on Loomis heads applied to anime from a Japanese animator. Might help you visualize the shapes better. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTY4AtphBe8Oq5Oaa7inP2_cvtmoEBG7Z

Anonymous Sun Aug 6 20:37:04 2023 No.6780415 [DELETED]

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So, I'm trying to make a reference model for this character, Himiko Agari, and I'm just asking around if there is anything I can do to alter this model?

References are around the model and the green circles indicate the rough shape/size of the unsupported breasts. (red lines around it would be appreciated)

Anonymous Sun Aug 6 20:42:56 2023 No.6780418
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So, I'm trying to make a reference model for this character, Himiko Agari, and I'm just asking around if there is anything I can do to alter this model?

References are around the model and the green circles indicate the rough shape/size of the unsupported breasts. (red or any other color lines would be appreciated to correct any errors or inconsistencies)

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 6 20:47:52 2023 No.6780426 >>6780418 quality troll

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 6 22:34:41 2023 No.6780590 >>6772790 based anti-proko poster

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 6 22:50:21 2023 No.6780625 >>6780426 ???

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 6 23:04:55 2023 No.6780653 >>6772790 >wrong password

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 7 02:08:39 2023 No.6780923 >>6780221 retardw

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 7 02:10:59 2023 No.6780927 >>6779835 >and will save you months of doing silly things this att. anon who wasted months doing silly things

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 7 14:15:15 2023 No.6781517 >>6779608 How do I do forced perspective then without it turning into shit?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 7 14:17:19 2023 No.6781519 File: 982 KB, 2808x2756, headpractice 030823.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] These are grueling, but the simpler hair vs Sakura's hair helps

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 7 15:06:51 2023 No.6781571 >>6781519 Is that Sawako?

Anonymous Mon Aug 7 16:10:51 2023 No.6781633
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>>6780211
>Do you understand how to put simple objects in 3d space?
I'm not sure, I don't think so...
How do I learn that?
Please tell me how can I learn

The best I got is copying hundreds of floating 3D models
Fuck! it's been 7 months, I should know this by now!
I'm a lost cause aren't I?
It's so fucking over

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 7 16:53:21 2023 No.6781653 >>6781633 >copying Let this be a lesson to those stupid enough to fall for ateliernigger's brainless printing nonsense.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 7 16:57:39 2023 No.6781656 File: 392 KB, 450x800, __keqing_genshin_impact_drawn_by_yesui__093c0d1a13db2397aac88b13c9534d3d.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] how do they make these short loop animations? doesnt look frame by frame

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 7 16:59:41 2023 No.6781659 >>6781653 Then HOW should I learn 3D simple forms? Because you being an asshole about it doesn't shine any light on the issue

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 7 17:44:42 2023 No.6781722 >>6781656 Some live2d or e-mote kind of program. An old one is emofuri, don't know about newer ones but I'm sure there are more.

Anonymous Mon Aug 7 17:47:38 2023 No.6781728

>>6781659
Try to pay attention to and identify all three dimensions at all times in your everyday life and in art you look at and then you'll have an easier time seeing and visualizing 3D space. Then practice drawing basic shapes in perspective and construction.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 7 19:06:33 2023 No.6781809 >>6781653 >implying he's attempting or able to crank out bargue plates

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 7 19:19:58 2023 No.6781837 Can someone explain to me anime face logic? Why is the nose so far left in this case, and the mouth so far to the right? How can I find a center line here? How would you construct such a face?

Anonymous Mon Aug 7 19:20:30 2023 No.6781841
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Can someone explain to me anime face logic? Why is the nose so far left in this case, and the mouth so far to the right? How can I find a center line here? How would you construct such a face??

Anonymous Mon Aug 7 19:27:20 2023 No.6781850
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>>6781809
What, so now I should be doing bargue plates?

First I was told that copying artwork would achieve the same end result of improving my observational skills

I wish people would make up their minds already

I'm starting to think it's just impossible to learn how to draw if you have no background on it

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 7 20:48:35 2023 No.6781991 Is copying a drawing from memory useful or should you just might as well draw from imagination?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 7 20:59:31 2023 No.6782019 >>6781850 Every meme in this thread is TRUE >>6771755 get to work

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 7 21:14:30 2023 No.6782059 >>6778392 Good job anon. Can you share the original artwork please?

Anonymous Mon Aug 7 21:19:16 2023 No.6782071

>>6780418
Well the first thing which comes to mind is, will you draw these circles everytime you're trying to draw her? You're gonna run into problems as it's not gestural at all.
What you need to find is a way to make these guidelines flow in together. Look at this video for example to get what I'm trying to say: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr9jkWio9L8

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 7 21:26:53 2023 No.6782092 File: 49 KB, 436x360, 1691436030237396.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6781841

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 8 00:47:21 2023 No.6782414 >>6781841 that's the tip of the nose

Anonymous Tue Aug 8 03:21:50 2023 No.6782619
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>>6775495
Hello anon, I wanted to share my last drawing since I have only studied construction and hands, I liked the nejire a lot but I feel that the Superior one can be greatly improved. I want to study the construction of heads and male anatomy more than anything the connection of the hips to the legs

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 8 05:55:11 2023 No.6782777 File: 228 KB, 1920x1080, d-hang-l6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6782059 D Hang on artstation

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 8 06:18:00 2023 No.6782801 >>6778389 i'm impressed gmi for sure

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 8 06:18:13 2023 No.6782803 >>6782777 Thank you. Both are good but I like the feel and composition on yours. Great work there.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 8 14:05:17 2023 No.6783289 >>6781850 https://streamable.com/f6a76h

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 8 14:20:12 2023 No.6783309 New Thread: >>6783306 >>6783306 >>6783306

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