/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.6758583]

Watch out Threads, there's a new Twitter killer in town.

[Anonymous No.6758592]

I doubt it'll go through, he still hasn't implemented the paywall for viewing more then 600 tweets thing. He just does these stunts for shock and attention.

[Anonymous No.6758732]

>>6758592
You are giving that idiot way too much credit. He tried to do that with Paypal, but they stopped him.

[Anonymous No.6758737]

>>6758583
Whatever the fuck Elon is doing it wont matter in the long term unless he bans porn and it becomes another tumblr.

[Anonymous No.6758798]

>>6758583
This retard had ONE job, to buy the thing and make it THE free speech platform, then get back to making shitty cars & exploding rockets.
But no, he has to constantly attempt 4D chess. Too clever by half, this guy.

[Anonymous No.6758857]

>>6758583
It's so over

[Anonymous No.6758860]

>>6758592
>>6758732
>>6758737
so how long until the inevitable bankruptcy? whats the prediction THIS time? 14 days? is this the 47th failed prediction?

[Anonymous No.6758871]

>>6758798
Elon NEVER wanted to actually buy Twitter, he just got into a pissing contest with Twiter moderators who refused to accommodate to his ego and so he started flexing his wallet to dunk on them constantly and it got to the point of offering to buy twitter just so he could fire the mods and he promised to pay way more than Twitter was ever worth.

Unfortunately for him the Twitter owners took him seriously and immediately accepted his clearly retarded proposal. Then Elon tried every single legal loophole desperately to back out of the deal that everyone knew will make him loose a considerable amount of money. However he couldn't find any legal justification to back out so he had to run with it now.

So yes Elon had one job but that job was one he NEVER wanted nor he actually cares for but now has to deal with all due to his own arrogance and astronomical stupidity.

[Anonymous No.6758873]

>>6758583
Threads is dead. Nothing but pajeet spammers there. Also had a rate limit exactly like twitter.
Elon didn't really have to do anything about it lmao. Just like LORD Gaben does nothing but count money...and yet all his competitors just died off. kek.

[Anonymous No.6758875]

>>6758871
>this was revealed to me in a dream
Holy kek. Major schizophrenia here. Literally everything he does before and after he had already planned far ahead. Or perhaps you think this X thing suddenly popped out of nowhere? LOL
Insignificant maggot.

[Anonymous No.6758876]

>>6758860
Twitter's death won't be one sudden event, it's dying by a thousand cuts.

[Anonymous No.6758890]

>>6758875
No it wasn't my dream, this has been quite well documented and reported by most news outlets.
Maybe try a few of these that google brings up in less than a second.

https://inews.co.uk/inews-lifestyle/money/elon-musk-never-wanted-twitter-2269671

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a40709381/elon-musk-buy-twitter/

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/12/technology/twitter-musk-lawsuit-reasons.html

https://www.wsj.com/podcasts/the-journal/elon-musk-doesnt-want-to-buy-twitter-anymore/72ac2322-bb3e-4d41-8237-16e8e115d3d5

At one point Elon himself said that he was FORCED to buy Twitter. Can you imagine that? Surely he is playing 6D chess!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHTc77PTLVI

[Anonymous No.6758903]

>>6758890
BTFO
>>6758875

[Anonymous No.6758923]

>>6758875
What's it like to suck dick?

[Anonymous No.6759113]

social media is a mistake

[Anonymous No.6759129]

>>6758890
Changing his mind about buying twitter is not the same as never wanting to buy it in the first place.

[Anonymous No.6759291]

>>6759129
listen to this cuck. lul u fanbois need to rope faster.

[Anonymous No.6759301]

>>6759291
You leftist tards need to kill yourselves

[Anonymous No.6759306]

>>6759301
lil fanboi ran out of dick to suck and got mad?

[Anonymous No.6759314]

>Twitter killer
Well, it is sort of true...

[Anonymous No.6759383]

Still works on my end

[Anonymous No.6759450]

>>6758871
>Never want.
It is a money laundering scheme similar to contemporary art.
The 44b was for something else.

[Anonymous No.6759586]

I stopped seeing basically any growth on Twitter some time last year. I've been hovering around 500 forever, felt like pulling teeth trying to get people to follow me even though I felt like I was getting better.
I've got that many followers on newgrounds now despite the userbase being so much smaller; it's a reasonable expectation that if you put a lot of effort into something appealing-looking it will get featured on the frontpage, which is nice.
I'm not sure what people are going to move to from Xwitter if a large-scale move actually happens but I feel kind of tired of trying to play the social media game at all.

[Anonymous No.6759621]

>>6759586
Opposite for me. My Twitter finally took off this summer. I am intensely frustrated by this rebranding bullshit.

[Anonymous No.6759696]

>>6758583
>hey what’s your ex?
>you should ex that
>are you on ex?
this is dumb

[Anonymous No.6759705]

>>6758871
I can’t take someone who can’t spell “lose” correctly (you) seriously.

[Anonymous No.6759745]

I don't care about any changes, except one:
>people can't see tweets publicly anymore, you need an account.

How do I fix this? Where can I create public galleries?
I'm considering making an Imgur account and archiving my stuff there.
Might even publish them to get some updoots, can artists do this?
Although that place is insufferably Reddit.

[Anonymous No.6759761]

>>6759745
I honestly don't know, it just feels like a shitty time to be an internet artist.

[Anonymous No.6759763]

>>6759745
>people can't see tweets publicly anymore, you need an account.
>How do I fix this? Where can I create public galleries?
You can't, that was the entire point! To force people to make accounts. You will need to use 3rd party sites to get around things.

[Anonymous No.6759768]

>>6759696
It's almost as if a large amount of users are dropping their relationship with the platform.

[Anonymous No.6759793]

>>6759768
They are in the hands of a criminal faggot retard now, so I don't blame them. I mean a normie have enough already dealing with one bossy faggot in their daily life. Now the biggest bossy faggot of them all shitting in their socials too? Nah.

[Anonymous No.6759808]

Maybe there's a grander scheme, but OMFG this looks so damn stupid at the moment.

I literally only use "Twitter" to follow artists and I hope this doesn't affect that/make them drop the platform.

[Anonymous No.6759822]

>>6759793
>Now the biggest bossy faggot of them all shitting in their socials too? Nah.
the cia is funding twitter again?

[Anonymous No.6759827]

>>6759822
worst.

[Anonymous No.6759830]

>>6759314
>son is called X ae A-12 or whatever
>rebrands Twitter as X
What's with Musk and Xs?

[Anonymous No.6759831]

Honestly my Instagram gets more attention then my twitter and it's the most neglected of my socials. I just hate Instagram cropping my drawings so much.

Also is elon autistic?

[Anonymous No.6759842]

>>6759831
I think he's confirmed to be diagnosed with Assburger's

[Anonymous No.6759845]

>>6759842
That explains a lot

[Anonymous No.6759860]

>>6759621
THIS is what it took to frustrate you? Not the pay2win scheme? Not the deboosting of anything that isn't explicit /pol/itics? Not getting buried under comments while paypig pajeet crypto scammers flood the top with one word responses? Not the absolutely insane bot problem which blue was supposed to fix but has only exacerbated the problem? I've been talking about this for months but now suddenly you care because you have an audience too. Get fucked and don't even bother learning from this experience on the next platform.

[Anonymous No.6759861]

>>6759860
replied to the wrong person?

[Anonymous No.6759863]

>>6758592
X.com redirects to Twitter now

[Anonymous No.6759866]

>>6759301
>leftist tards
kinda surprised rightoids adopted this retard. rightwingers used to be draper-style capitalist chads who competently ran things, unlike this man-child turbo-autist. John Galt he isn't.

[Anonymous No.6759876]

>>6759830
Because calling something "X" is the coolest thing in Musk's mind. He finally succeeded in making is lifelong dream of creating X.com! Originally in 1999 he wanted to make X.com into an online banking network which failed because everyone else among the founders thought it was a stupid name. So Elon decided to buy up the largest online banking competitor called Confinity, the company that created Paypal. Musk had majority of shares and also became CEO but he was so inept at his job that the board voted to remove him from the CEO position while he was on honeymoon. After that one year later the company was renamed Paypal and bought by eBay.

But fear not, after TWENTY THREE YEARS Elon has will finally revived the name X.com! For some reason...

>>6759831
>Also is elon autistic?
No, he just claims to be one for sympathy points.

[Anonymous No.6759877]

>>6758737
It's already another tumblr. I have no real followers, it's all bots.

[Anonymous No.6759886]

>>6758592
The 600 tweets thing was a lie, he used that as an excuse because he fucked up the site's code for a few days. Now that it's fixed we'll likely never hear about it again.

[Anonymous No.6759892]

>>6759877
Twitter/X is still the only major platform that allows nsfw. Even that stupid bsky twitter clone doesn't allow porn so it's gonna be dead in a week also.

[Anonymous No.6759895]

>>6759866
They got lost in their farts chasing their own tale, while China is mopping the floor with them. Everyone is a "commie", everyone is a "leftie". While the rest of the fucking world has been living that "socialist life" for decades with health care, social security and housing. Scandinavia, Europe, Canada. While the burgers choke on their cancer, mass shootings, and blows europe's pipe lines.
They're done.

[Anonymous No.6759897]

>>6759842
No, he was never officially diagnosed he never showed any paper evidence. He just said so on TV when he was hosting Saturday Night Live 08. May of 2021. He never said that any time before and none of his family members ever said it. He just uses to try and project an image of being this "Genius with Autism" to one of such people like Newton, Einstein, Carl Sagan, Bill Gates and Steve Jobs etc. And also uses it as an excuse to be a narcissistic jerk.

[Anonymous No.6759900]

>>6759892
twitter allowing nsfw feels like a hold-over from it being a relatively old website
at this point nsfw and sfw internet is just not allowed to intersect because every platform needs to support the presence of kids due to how much advertising revenue they generate

[Anonymous No.6759915]

>>6759900
Explain 4chan then
also Checked

[Anonymous No.6759922]

>>6759915
are you talking about 4channel.org and the red/blue board split? I think hiro was willing to try anything to get more advertisers on board with an infamous website where the VAST majority of users are nerds capable of running an adblocker

[Anonymous No.6759923]

>>6759892
Doesn't bother me, I dont follow nsfw to begin with

[Anonymous No.6759927]

>>6759900
>twitter allowing nsfw feels like a hold-over from it being a relatively old website
yeah, it's the one thing that's keeping it alive. No matter what retardation Musk is up to, it'll keep on ticking because it has a wild west feel compared to more sanitized social media. For this reason I think it'll be home to alternative/countercultural art and media even if it gets legit competition.
But if it ever cracks down heavy on porn and content for advertisers, it'll be the final nail.

[Anonymous No.6759934]

>>6759927
at least we can piggy-back off of the recent uptick in moral support of good upstanding Sex Workers

[Anonymous No.6759944]

>>6759895
>has been living that "socialist life"
You mean compulsory euthanasia if life is even a little bit hard, stepping back the trans kids health care cause they royay fucked up, how you can't even own a kitchen knife because the state needs to coddle it's citizens to the point of childcare like laws or the influx of immigrants that are literally and culturally destroying numerous European countries? Such a great life to know your heritage will overthrown by third world dindus with hands and mouths wide open, because you took the jewpill and stopped having kids.

[Anonymous No.6759948]

>>6759922
I meant 4chan as a whole site brand. I guess is the same with brands like Pornhub.
I always believed that there is an agreement with the feds and 4chan, it is just a big honey trap. Though 100% of the people here are just harmless horny nerds. Feds should be getting funds to run this operation, so I guess it's in their interest to keep 4chan as a edgy dark site. That Q/january6 bullshit must have been a major boost for the business.

[Anonymous No.6759951]

>>6759948
>100% of the people here are just harmless horny nerds
Make that 90%, there are some boards I don't trust.

[Anonymous No.6759953]

>>6759948
That's what I meant, sites like 4chan and pornhub are strictly in the NSFW-allowing corner of the internet, and the borders are pretty cleanly defined.
I'm not arguing against there being a level of separation (like people being able to turn it off when they don't want to see smut on their homepage), but if twitter goes down you're pretty much going to be limited to occasionally reminding people "hey I draw unmentionable things on this other site if you want to go out of your way to go look at it" whenever you have an account on the biggest platforms.
As an addendum this isn't even about smut specifically, I doubt instagram or threads would allow normal artistic nudes so they're out the window too.

[Anonymous No.6759956]

>>6759900
>twitter allowing nsfw feels like a hold-over from it being a relatively old website
I dont think that would go away, elon is too much of a horny simp to ban porn

[Anonymous No.6759958]

>>6759944
Most of all of that bullshit came from the US. Europeans don't give a shit about a lot of those things. Pushing that agenda from WashingtonDC is what started all of this global mess.
That's the core issue inside america, they don't get it, there's no "left" and "right" in america anymore. There's no more "capitalism" in america. Neither "democracy". It's all a big lie.
And the rest of the world is starting to understand that it is time to stop this corp global tyrannical madness.

[Anonymous No.6759960]

>>6759951
>some boards I don't trust
Wich ones? I only dwell in /ic/ but I prefer to better be aware of any weird shit

[Anonymous No.6759961]

>>6759958
California is the problem.

[Anonymous No.6759965]

>>6759956
>elon is too much of a horny simp to ban porn
I do believe that as well, lmao

[Anonymous No.6759966]

>>6759958
Everything I stated is European laws, retard. You can't just say things that are blatantly, obviously, verifiably false. The eu has been trying to get America to drink their Kool aid for years, not happening. American republicans/conservatives are the only ones actually fighting back against global jew agenda #6,000,000. Alternative media is beating out corporate controlled "news agencies", every woke company is getting throttled, sound of freedom is doing great, Jason Aldean #1 country artist, roe v wade overturned, affirmative action overturned... Things are looking up, and were not stopping. You live under a fucking Rock?

[Anonymous No.6759969]

>>6759961
You just going down a list of "boogeymen" now

[Anonymous No.6759971]

>>6759960
/qa/ or /pol/ or whichever board spawned wojaks, most of those posters seem actually deranged.

[Anonymous No.6759975]

>>6759971
all the /qa/fags left to their own website, and for the most part they're just harmless teenagers who have a fetish for hideous mspaint edits
meanwhile /pol/ is probably like 30% of this site's traffic so it's not going anywhere

[Anonymous No.6759983]

>>6759975
Fair enough, just saying that there are definitely some potential serial killers hanging around here.

[Anonymous No.6759986]

This thread is a hot mess and yet I cant look away
I know it's because I'm procrastinating on drawing

[Anonymous No.6760016]

>>6759966
>The eu has been trying to get America to drink their Kool aid for years
welp, you just lost any credibility anon.
Half a century of USA pushing their degenerate shit on the rest of the planet earth is that big wall that you just hit smashing your whole face. California(holywood), Florida, NY, WashDC, Texas, you burgers really believe those are "different ideology" sides, when it's all the same shit altogether.
Industry of porn, gender surgery, drugs, arms, war, wall street bullshit, media crap, monsanto, microsoft, FB, amazon, that "surrogate mother" blasphemy aberration, and an infinite list of SHIT that's what that fucking Babylon of A spawns and vomits over our planet since decades now.
It's not the chinese, it's not the "evil russians", it's not the skinny niggers in the sahara desert, neither the bearded sandal wearing ones, or the beaners cleaning pools and mowing lawns.

[Anonymous No.6760058]

>>6760016
Hollywood only caught up to the EUs "progressive ways" in the mid 2010s, because American citizens didn't just jump onto the leftist burning ship like the "progressive" countries in Europe. The plan is the same, the American bill of rights and ego of American freedom in the citizens is why we are not going down without a fight. You can doom and gloom and boo hoo baby baba bullshit all day, but I see what's happening, game theory and the American people are starting to play.

[Anonymous No.6760069]

>>6759986
haha yeah...

[Anonymous No.6760078]

>>6759986

[Anonymous No.6760079]

>>6759934
its funny how the apex of democracy was founded upon removing sex slavery and lending a helping hand to disenfranchised american blacks and here these marketeers are trying to inflate the problem and preventing new creativity by reversing all of that progress.

i wonder who benefits hmmmm

[Anonymous No.6760082]

>>6758583
X... perfect logo for censorship and things u dont wanna see on the internet

[Anonymous No.6760165]

What else is there other than twitter? Art theft is rampant in instagram, tumblr is a ghost town and doesnt allow NSFW, nothing Zuckerberg does.
Newgrounds will get you nowhere if you ain't an animator.
Is it OVER?

[Anonymous No.6760199]

>>6760165
yes

anyone blaming the problem solely on skill is a fucking retard when algorithms are making it so its borderline impossible to grow as a content creator without paying for their shitty app

[Anonymous No.6760223]

>>6760165
We go back to personal websites and webrings

[Anonymous No.6760226]

>>6760223
This. Only use social media to preview your work. Make them come to you.
>Small thumbnails with link underneath or permalink to your website in the thumbnail itself.
>Unfinished work with link to see finished peice
>Watermark 0 opacity on the face, link to see full piece.
Shit like that

[Anonymous No.6760367]

>"Where am I gonna post my NSFW now?!"

Most porn artists have a FA that's sitting there dead because managing more then 1 account is too difficult for them. Their Pixivs are only semi-active or don't have everything they've made for some reason
Their Newgrounds is damn near a ghost town. Only a select few artists still keep up with it
I have noticed people started using their DAs more often these past few months

There's a good amount of websites from years back that are still good to fallback on but because they lack a sufficient amount of normies and spotlight most Artists aren't gonna try and use them very often

[Anonymous No.6760371]

Just saw an article saying twitter going to replace the human moderators with AI

[Anonymous No.6760385]

>>6759895
Who do you think finances all of these industries?
If Americans didn't pay $10,000 for a aspirin, Big Pharma would have to charge someone else.

They're the paypigs so the rest of the world doesn't have to be.

[Anonymous No.6760391]

>>6760385
They could always just not pay the executives so much.

[Anonymous No.6760395]

>>6760165
Pixiv. But westoids don't like pixiv for some reason. I guess because you actually have to post decent art and can't share your smoothbrain political takes

[Anonymous No.6760440]

>>6759860
Lmao guess what dude, Twitter was trash long before Elon for anyone who wasn't posting stupid liberal bullshit.
>but now suddenly you care because you have an audience too.
Yeah, I have an audience, loser.

[Anonymous No.6760442]

>>6760395
>But westoids don't like pixiv for some reason. I guess because you actually have to post decent art
because you have to draw only anime you dumb fucking weeb and censoring 18+ artwork

[Anonymous No.6760460]

>>6760391
But those are self made men who rightfully earned their money. It's why us middleclass must be taxed because we deserve it for not doing better.

[Anonymous No.6760487]

>>6759291
No I think he is a moron I just dispute the idea that he never wanted to buy twitter.

[Anonymous No.6760622]

>>6760442
This
I think Pixivs great but having to censor dick and balls just for this one website where it's not allowed is tedious and likely the reason why more Western artists don't have a fanbox

[Anonymous No.6760637]

I tried instagram like you guys told me to and my fanart got buried by the algorithm. I had one popular cosplayer like my post and a bunch of pajeet followers who don't interact with any of my posts. Wtf is this?

[Anonymous No.6760669]

>>6759922
Used to not have adblocker on my phone even despite the ads on /ic/ being porn.
But when the pop-up vids started, I got it because that shit was genuinely getting in the way.
Talk about backfiring lmao.

[Anonymous No.6760674]

It's foolish to expect anything in the modern age collapsing but you better start accumulating twitter clout now.

[Anonymous No.6760676]

>>6760674
It’s foolish to think otherwise. Cobalts just about gone, then what?

[Anonymous No.6760678]

I need a bluesky invite NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW

[Anonymous No.6760689]

>>6760637
Instagram is a meme but it's a Social media website so Artists feel the need to fill in that specific corner

[Anonymous No.6760692]

>>6760676
You made me look and I guess Cobalt reserves run out in ~68 years

[Anonymous No.6760693]

>>6760637
Instagram is dead

[Anonymous No.6760697]

>>6758871
His "flexing" was in no way legally binding until he went to their office in person and signed the fucking documents. If he didn't want to do it then why did he.

[Anonymous No.6760699]

>>6759745
>Where can I create public galleries?
Itaku, Newgrounds, Pixiv, some Fediverse instances designed for artist use.
All more useful as galleries than Twitter has ever been.

[Anonymous No.6760703]

>>6760692
Right you really think it’s going to be 68 years? Even if it lasts 68 years, we need a new energy source now. Graphene seems like it could be the answer and if we can move over to that then it could be good. Though as it stands graphene isn’t everything we were told it was. I really hope that new nuclear energy capturing technique can be used to charge graphene batteries in the near future.

[Anonymous No.6760710]

>>6758583
Can someone kill this faggot already

[Anonymous No.6760717]

>>6760693
Good I’ll be sending you a dm through snail mail

[Anonymous No.6760726]

>>6760703
I get what you mean but I'm saying things can get way worse before they start free falling. Twitter going to get worse with this retard in charge.

[Anonymous No.6760734]

>>6760726
Twitter is*
also I suggest neocities as a gallery host or home page.

[Anonymous No.6760867]

where are we gonna go? Threads doesn't allow porn which is basically the only thing keeping this idiot and his awful trash fire of a site going at this point. I don't know what bluesky's policies on NSFW are but I kinda hope we get a better gallery site as a successor.

[Anonymous No.6760875]

>>6760734
neocities for 4 lyfe

[Anonymous No.6761007]

>>6758871
And thats why he tricks twitter uses into complying with his acts to cover his stupidity, blue checkmarks, they dont do dick themselves, the algorythm only pushes you up if you are a woke leftoid, thats it, the damn things are useless, but he gotta make back some money after the adquisition he never really wanted in the first place, so he tricked you out artists, oh whats that? He wants to introduce monetization for users with blue checkmarks, silly normies, that only works if you have 5 million views for each of the last 3 months so fuck you hyuck hyuck, and by the way, the twitter limit is gone but the fag doesnt tell you cause it was a DDoS attack.

[Anonymous No.6761013]

>>6760697
I heard he needed a plausible excuse to sell his Tesla shares without causing price dump, then he would try to find an excuse to not buy Twitter.

[Anonymous No.6761015]

>>6761007
>algorythm
Algorithm.

> DDoS attack
Not really, https://sfba.social/@sysop408/110639474671754723

> inb4 people jumping on the Musk-hate train because it's now fashionable
Yeah lol Musk is so stupid lmao. Dumb mf sure must eat, like, raw trees to save the Earth.

It's always amusing to see people judging others harshly, despite the overwhelming clear existence of a drastically asymmetric distribution of knowledge/information between the two sides.

[Anonymous No.6761020]

>>6761007
>it was a DDoS attack.
Vids from French riots were uploaded there.

[Anonymous No.6761114]

>>6760699
The thing is Artists say they want a good galley system but what they 'want' is to be seen by the masses and be able to turn a profit someway.
Twitter was the worse place to set up shop as the new Internet Artist Home when Newgrounds, Pixiv, DA, and Furaffinity all exists but the move was made because the Porn artists moved there because that's where potential new followers are, the masses from Tumblr followed and so did the less followed Artists because they were following the masses following the Porn artists
What these guys actually want is a Twitter with a good public gallery system but Twitter never bothered making an attempt to cater to it's new users and the idea of an Art gallery website on par with Twitter is silly

[Anonymous No.6761210]

>>6761114
so, what they should do instead? just give it up and find real jobs?

>in4 yes

[Anonymous No.6761224]

>>6760678
>I need a bluesky invite NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW
Why? they have less than a million users on it right now, it's completely pointless, aside from bragging that you got in, i guess.

60% of my Twitter, ehm sorry, X feed is artists shilling their new Bluesky account, and yet nobody can follow them, because nobody can get in in the first place.

By the time (assuming it does) the userbase gets to a point where being on it is in any way useful, you won't need an invite to get in.

[Anonymous No.6761226]

>>6760674
>now.
Lmao it’s probably the shittiest time for nobody online artists to get attention now

[Anonymous No.6761228]

>>6761114
Thank you for the lengthy paragraph about how you're a mind-reader, anon, but you suck at it.

What I need the most is a website where I can casually post - like on Twatter - but not have it hidden behind a wall, so I can send it around to people personally. A nice gallery is also important, but it's a close second.
I already have a website with just my art compiled in galleries, the biggest two problems being that it's not very flexible with unconventional formats (long/wide pics) and me having to edit the website every time I want to post something new. Twitter's "plug and post" mechanic is its strongest point. It's also got a storage limit, so I don't put every single doodle in there.

Newgrounds is not a place to dump content, you have to be selective as well.
Pixiv is locked for outsiders, nil.
DA allows you to post whatever garbage you want in theory, but it's still too stiff in its approach. You either post art through a lengthy form or a journal with embedded Sta.sh pictures, which takes a lot of space if all you want is to post a WIP/question for others. Furaffinity is for furry coomers and similar to DA, although its interface being old might make the posting process less cumbersome.

Anon's >>6760699 suggestion of Itaku is the best balance IMO opinion, but it's been overtaken by furries. Might still give it a whirl.

After discussing this with a few people, I've been considering T*mblr, despite its terrible media compatibility and abysmal search. It's also terrible at organizing stuff, akin to Twitter.
Wish a hybrid between Twitter and DA existed. DA could have created that, but it took too long to try and copy social media, only to do it in the worst way possible.

(Yes, having visibility/discoverability would be nice too, but mostly I'm looking for a platform that allows me to show my content to people in a convenient way, both new and old material, both important and inconsequential material. I've got a job already, thank you.)

[Anonymous No.6761231]

>>6761224
The fuck is bluesky? A hush hush members only place like cgpeers or myspleen that is just to share around things only between snobs themselves so that no one can get into?

[Anonymous No.6761242]

It is funny how hungry people are to label Musk a retard. I don't like the guy either but you don't become one of the world's richest men without a supreme gift of business. Same with Trump, the guy took over NYC. Snakes like this excel at business, it's their game. Feel free to call them retarded if you want, but truth is they know what they're doing

[Anonymous No.6761244]

>>6759586
>I'm stuck at 500 followers because twitter is dying, not because my art is shit
Retard.

[Anonymous No.6761248]

>>6761242
Even if they do, the fact that they can ruin the experience for everyone else isn't off the table.
But people mistake "he's ruining my fun" with "he's retarded", when it's more likely "the average user is retarded" and that he is catering to those people.

Unfortunately for him, as for Trump, he triggered the SJWs and they have a massive, collective autism that can ruin his reputation in the long run, at any given point one of the boycott attempts might hit the spot.

[Anonymous No.6761252]

Based retard

Musk had his dad that owned an emerald mine
Trump had his dad estate company he took over from

[Anonymous No.6761265]

>>6761228
Tumblr was just better Twitter until they went full retard. The tagging system is fine and works to sort out your stuff on your own blog as well.

[Anonymous No.6761288]

>>6761231
A Twitter clone made by the original creator of Twitter.
Invite-only for now (or you can sign up to the waitlist and prepare to wait for months).
As i said, it's got around 350k members for now (and a mil or so on waitlist) so it's a non-platform.
Even Mastodon has a much bigger userbase.

https://bsky.app/

[Anonymous No.6761289]

>>6761228
Then make art that's actually worth copying and pasting a little extra code for. Problem solved.
Some of you need to pin your audience down instead of blind baiting into the social media void.

[Anonymous No.6761294]

>>6761252
Trump inherited about 400m and turned it into 4 billion, Musk is a chronic liar so no one really knows how much money he began with. But Musk is worth $242 billion dollars right now, which is incomparably huge compared to anything he could have started with. Like >200-300x ROI.
Business sense (like most natural gifts) is genetic. Trump and Musk came from money because that talent runs in their DNA. Every year, countless people inherit millions of dollars, and you see where it goes? You see what happens when average people like us are given a million dollars?

They are both dickheads, I won't deny it. But for people to think they know better than Musk when it comes to business is hilarious. Elon has successfully scanned that entire page out of Trump's 2016 playbook -- be a shrewd businessman, but pretend to be a stupid, impulsive bully. And so you acquire a huge crowd who revel in looking down upon you, look at this evil dumb businessman about to ruin his own life!!! It's a symbiotic relationship: they get their kicks in feeling superior to you, while you get to be the constant center of headlines AND get to hide your true intentions/long term plan because people are retarded. Look back to George W. Bush for a proto example of this. And it's not like this is some galaxy brain, megamind type shit. When @elonmusk posts some anime femboy meme, it's not like some planned thing he went to 5 or 6 consultants for. He's just shitposting and being silly, which reinforces that dynamic, keeps everyone's eyes on him, drives up engagement, and if anything threatens to harm Twitter's long term (like limiting Tweet views), he will walk it back as soon as there's outcry.

If you think you know better than Elon, you're the one being duped.

[Anonymous No.6761298]

The obnoxious Musk haters are the same redditors who were obnoxious Musk fanboys 10 years ago

[Anonymous No.6761300]

>>6761252
> t. envy

>>6761294
>If you think you know better than Elon, you're the one being duped.
That's the spirit.

And it's nothing fancy, just elementary military techniques that have been around (written) for millennia. But the average man. Oh boï. The average man. He ALWAYS think he's miles above average. That's how you reckon that mf 99% of the time.

/ic/ is just splendid. Those niggers can't draw some half baked boxes-based porn to gtfo their parents basement, but my man do they know how to run a multi-billion business better than a man who has a successful track on doing, so multiple times, and rocket science isn't your average boring company.

Another marvelous use of the "Just draw."

[Anonymous No.6761301]

>>6761300
on doing -> of doing so;ESL blabla

[Anonymous No.6761303]

>>6761294
I wouldn't deny his ability to be able to make money, but i would at least "question" his ability to create a good product.
Even though he has had some successes (like SpaceX).
This applies to Twitter as of now, every single change has been for the worse or neutral at best.
Shit like the Hyperloop is just plain retarded, even though he got gov money for it, so from a business standpoint, it was probably a net win for him.

[Anonymous No.6761316]

>>6761303
Who said the goal was ever to make a good product?

[Anonymous No.6761331]

>>6761298
Elon dick riders are worse, and theres plenty of them ITT

[Anonymous No.6761338]

>>6761242
Everyone is so brainwashed, it' sad. People call Musk and the likes of him 'stupid' because of their evil deeds, they don't realize that they have conflated evil with stupidity. Yes, the likes of Musk and Trump are actually very smart in what they do - to procure wealth and power. Stupidity and evil is unrelated, yet capitalism has brainwashed everyone to believe 'wealthier person = better and more moral person'. Who knows, maybe some of the people calling these rich assholes 'stupid' are actually damage controlling. Call them what they are - narcissistic, self-centered, malicious persons who have too much influence, more influence than any person should ever have, especially not them.

>>6761248
>one of the boycott attempts might hit the spot.
If only we could live in such a world where things always change for the better. Unfortunately that's not the case. People like Musk and Trump are hailed as gods by some, add to that all the money and networking they have, and they basically enjoy full immunity for every evil unless they personally brutally murder someone in broad daylight with multiple witnesses and cameras around.

[Anonymous No.6761345]

musk cuck suckers are subhuman as usual. feeling a need to defend their idol and any distain towards him is a personal attack toward them

[Anonymous No.6761357]

>>6761316
It is from my point of view (of the consumer).

[Anonymous No.6761417]

Yeah i’ve been really concerned about twitter lately but mainly just as a place to post art
wherever the japanese artists end up going ill go lmao

[Anonymous No.6761620]

>>6758583
the amount of retards that work at kennys shoes but yet somehow know how to run a business better than a billionaire industry titan is staggering.

To be fair i dont care either way. X or Twitter. Its all the same. And the same faggots that cried about elons purchase havent left. At the end of the day, youre still just an anon typing this as you shit in the toilet, and hes a billionaire with enough fuckaround money to do whatever he wants with twitter. He can tank it and still be wealthy.

God I love capitalism. Twitter will die any day now guys. Any day now.

[Anonymous No.6761647]

>>6761331
> no u
Om little man

>>6761345
> notan brain
Why bother amirit.

[Anonymous No.6761657]

>>6761620
>God I love capitalism.
You love capitalism because the moodiest and biggest asshole on the planet calls attention to their moody greedy ass every new day. How amazingly unique you are, every single one of you worshippers and pawns.

[Anonymous No.6761663]

>>6761657
Not him but you must like both >>6761647 at once or something.

No, capitalism is good because bad things naturally get flushed out or improved over time, because people can always choose to vote for the competition / launch some competition. Ofc, that's a model, it's imperfect, but it's not like we have any better working alternative atm, nor that it's practical to consider any alternative atm either.

[Anonymous No.6761673]

DICK
RIDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.6761676]

>>6761673
It's getting dangerously close to
> How to shit
Which is kinda fun in itself, and contextually.

Or
> How to Xi [Jin mf PingPong]

[Anonymous No.6761683]

>>6761673
kek, at least Elon has sense of humor

[Anonymous No.6761697]

>>6761673
Well all i know that the vast majority of the users will still call it twitter and tweets. Muskrat could have built his own social media(it will fail).

[Anonymous No.6761704]

>>6761673
what a fucking retard

[Anonymous No.6761717]

>>6761683
Sense of humor? He's a retarded faggot, throwing tantrums all the time fucking up and stepping back after the fuck up.
He has no sense of humor. He plays the troll card and bully people around to cope with his insecurities.
Any other billionaire just enjoys shit without making a fool of himself.

[Anonymous No.6761721]

>>6761717
you can be retarded and funny. It's just toiler humor

[Anonymous No.6761726]

>>6761288
Oh, so it will be even more woke and will be anti porn and ati lolisho.......well then, let them rot.

[Anonymous No.6761731]

>>6760367
>artists falling back to dA

with all the scraping, thievery (and ''usury'') that goes on over there, i think self-hosting sites are going to have to come back. i don't trust ng either due to clowdflahre shit going on behind the scenes. in some ways i trust it less than dA.

[Anonymous No.6761732]

>>6761294
>>6761252
>>6761248
>>6761242
>>6761338
>>6761657
>Musk does retarded things
>WHY DO YOU CALL HIM A RETARD!

The state of cope. D2kt2

[Anonymous No.6761737]

>>6761731
There's nowhere to go anymore if you wanna be seen

[Anonymous No.6761738]

>>6761726
>ati lolisho
muskrat is doing one thing right, he's removing that shit from twitter now.

[Anonymous No.6761763]

>>6761737
it just means that word of mouth is becoming king these days, along with a set of good art skills.
fr, when your average contemporary artist is too glued to online debates at the expense of their own artistic ability, its only natural that stuff like this just gives up and collapses..
i mean, are we really surprised technology has come to this point, especially after what has happened in the last 10 years?

[Anonymous No.6761783]

>>6761738
Hi turkey tom, how's your discord doing this days?

[Anonymous No.6761840]

>>6761683
Its fake idiot
Elon is probably seething that no one takes his X seriously and everyone will still call it twitter. Like no one cares about meta

[Anonymous No.6761880]

>>6761732
>let's pretend billionaires are honest and virtuous people and are not just acting out a persona to reach their megalomaniac goals
>let's pretend the wealth for which a million average people have to work for a lifetime is deserved to be owned and enjoyed by a single person
at least he's funny for posting facebook memes, amirite XD???

[Anonymous No.6761887]

>>6761657
I love capitalism cause of the vast amount of wealth one can acquire you fuckin mongoloid.

How amazingly unique you are. Being moody and the biggest faggot on 4chin bitching about what a billionaire does with his money. Stop dyeing your hair retard.

[Anonymous No.6761915]

>>6761887
That's not capitalism you retard. That's just a lawless criminal environment for scams and mafia monopoly.
Capitalism was the american dream, a high investment on people's well being was guaranteed, so american society could develop families, with education, health care, housing. That's how america beat soviet russia, we had a much better welfare state system. From the mid 80's on, it all went downhill. Capitalism died, at the hand of global corporations dissolving states and regulations. Now China is the new "american dream", they are taking BILLIONS out of poverty. Meanwhile, we can't handle 400million americans, all falling down the sewers as we speak.

[Anonymous No.6761922]

>>6759895
>While the rest of the fucking world has been living that "socialist life" for decades with health care, social security and housing. Scandinavia, Europe, Canada.
enjoy your 50% income tax, zero gun rights, zero self defense rights, economic irrelevancy, muslim somali migrant hordes, etc.

[Anonymous No.6761923]

>>6761880
>>let's pretend the wealth for which a million average people have to work for a lifetime is deserved to be owned and enjoyed by a single person
This is a common but retarded take.

They may have what seems to be an insane amount of potential, but can only use it for little tricks like taking your private jet to move here and there. And some of them know deep down it's all gimmicky. Taking hot shower twice a day all year long feels like nothing for us modern Westerners, but it's utmost luxury to a man-monkey from 2500 years ago.

IIRC there's a dude out there injecting himself with the blood/placenta of his son as part of an experimental protocol or whatnot.

[Anonymous No.6761949]

>>6761738
Minus8 is still on Twitter

[Anonymous No.6761951]

>>6761620
>And the same faggots that cried about elons purchase havent left.
My favorite artists left so I left too. I'm happy you live in a bubble though.

[Anonymous No.6761952]

>>6761949
>still on Twitter
Repeat with me: -Still on X-
People are slow to learn it seems.

[Anonymous No.6761958]

>>6759922
4chan is funded by glowing niggers newfag

[Anonymous No.6761960]

>>6761949
he doesn't draw lolishit anymore

[Anonymous No.6761969]

>>6761960
Still is a pedo

[Anonymous No.6762000]

>>6761969
people can change. Look at James Gunn.

[Anonymous No.6762014]

>>6761887
>I love capitalism
Both sides are retarded at this point, which is why everyone is thinking you guys need to get a room.
The left is retarded for obvious reasons. Rightwingers dicksucking capitalism is an outmoded stance at this point, since capitalism is the driving force behind mass immigration and 90% of the other social ills they bitch about (disintegration of family, etc.).
Not to mention the billionaires you praise are the biggest beneficiaries of gibs at this point (pic related).

[Anonymous No.6762028]

>>6762014
there is unironically no upward mobility outside of capitalism
no one will imply it's easy to get ahead but at least it's fucking possible in a society where you arent totally subservient to the state to the point where anything you invent or create becomes "theirs" the moment they decide it
people act like capitalism is some outlier for these greedy sociopaths when those always exist and gain even MORE power in systems where you cant do something outstanding and bump upward significantly in terms of potential

[Anonymous No.6762045]

>>6762028
Son, "someone" convinced you that this SHIT STORM in wich we're living in right now, is "capitalism" and "it is great".
Ask your parents, your grandparents, america was a great place to live, but today, not so great anymore. This is not "america".
This market system is a deformity with no up, no bottom, no left, no right, no wrong, no law, no rules, everything is allowed, is a big ponzi scheme when YOU ALWAYS LOSE. Unless, you screw the little people around you, big time.
Wake up son.

[Anonymous No.6762051]

>>6762045
okay i woke up to the reality capitalism has flaws
this does not mean anything else actually works better

[Anonymous No.6762053]

>>6761915
>Now China is the new "american dream"
I was trying to write a succinct comment on why this is laughable, but there's just not enough space.

I mean, come the fuck on. Mr. Xi, one of the supposedly most powerful man on Earth atm, throw a tantrum and bans Winnie the Pooh from the Redternets because someone said he looked like it?

Seriously? You think he has the intelligence to run one on of the first economy on the planet? I mean you guys shit on Musk for being a manbaby, but Xi is a whole new fucking level of insanity. And that's the just utmost surface level of thing.

Even if you're one of the most successful Chinese nigger, dare you insinuate something unpleasant to top dog red team. https://www.wired.co.uk/article/jack-ma-isnt-back

>>6762028
All political/economical system corrupts. Capitalism seems to be on a serious down pass atm.

>>6762045
>This market system is a deformity with no up, no bottom, no left, no right, no wrong, no law, no rules, everything is allowed, is a big ponzi scheme when YOU ALWAYS LOSE. Unless, you screw the little people around you, big time.
That's an over-simplification. The problem isn't the market itself, it's the political system, and more precisely, a bunch of incompetent/malevolent guys who destroy healthy competition to better serve some selfish interest.

[Anonymous No.6762083]

>>6762051
That's the point, THERE IS NO other system, and they point you out to something that doesn't even exist. "communism!!!" they shout, and you go after that while they loot america. Those fuckers took a hold of capitalism since a while ago already, and locked it in a vault throwing the key. THEY own the market now, "politics", "government", doesn't make the rules anymore. THEY make the rules.

One of the last times the american people stood up against these fuckers was when WE THE PEOPLE forced microsoft to break out. Now, that's no more, Bill owns us, they owns the government, the state and the constitution. The government is not ours anymore, now it belongs to Bill and his buddies, Elon, Mark, Jeff and fucking Mickey Mouse. Sounds like a joke, but it's not.
Capitalism is broken, and they don't want to fix it. Why would they?
They don't want another JFK, they don't want "elections", imagine the people electing someone to rule THEM... ain't that crazy? There was a time when it wasn't , and those fuckers were forced to comply with the law, same as anyone else in america.

[Anonymous No.6762101]

>>6762000
"Non offending" pedos still deserve a bullet, just because you fap to his shitty porn doesn't mean anything

[Anonymous No.6762120]

>>6762000
>>6762101
Not that, it's a genuine sickness like schizophrenia. I believe his posts to be honest. There could be a procedure to correct it in the future.

[Anonymous No.6762133]

>>6762101
But look at him, he's in the red carpet with all those celebrities! The news talk about him, "What James Gun is going to do next? What will be his next hit in the big screen?" With his picture right there all cool looking with his silver hair and design specs. And then kids buying his toys, and everyone saying "oh the racoon, poor racoon, I cried, don't you cried? You must be a monster!" James Gunn's such a wholesome piece of shit ain't he now?

Come on anon, explain all this SHIT to me. What the fuck is going on, is James Gunn a child molester piece of shit that deserves to be teared to fucking pieces on live television, or is he a successful fucking winner mega-star maker of global awesome hits? He can't be both.

[Anonymous No.6762161]

/ic/ - Social Media/Crabs

[Anonymous No.6762847]

>>6758583
Google changed to Alphabet, no-one gives a fuck to remember.
Facebook changed to Meta, still no-one gives a fuck to remember.

[Anonymous No.6762850]

>>6759831

[Anonymous No.6763192]

>>6762847
Weren't those the company names and not the product names? You're still searching the webz on google.com and not alphabet.com

[Anonymous No.6763196]

>>6763192
Kinda the idea IIRC Facebook/Google should still exists but as subsidiaries of Meta/Alphabet

[Anonymous No.6763205]

>>6763192
>>6762850
>Gen Xers in midlife crisis again
l have more respect for boomers like Gates and Cooks at this point

[Anonymous No.6763226]

>>6761915
>Now China is the new "american dream", they are taking BILLIONS out of poverty.
Your bait is strong. Yet, I pity you... because there is a chance that you believe what you are saying.

[Anonymous No.6763257]

>>6763205
lmao, what about Gates and his endlife crisis?

[Anonymous No.6763317]

>>6763257
I dont think an endlife crisis justifies buying up all the land and burning down all the food factories.

[Anonymous No.6763494]

>>6763317
That's because you never had hundreds of billions of dollar on your bank account bro. Otherwise you'd understand.

Me? I have imagination skills after drawing for so long, so I don't need to actually have hundreds of billions on my bank account, I can just imagine what it feels and understand that if I have a track records of dick moves, I would definitely want to burn prevent niggers from making babies and ruling the world forever.

[Anonymous No.6763649]

>>6759876
What is he, 13 years old?

[Anonymous No.6763658]

>>6763649
The amount of projection is insane. Those guys truly believe that you can magically build billion dollar businesses by being a little angry teenager inside.

The guy is reportedly a hardcore worker. He has flaws alright, but having flaws doesn't prevent to have qualities either.

[Anonymous No.6763729]

>>6763658
you dont have to defend yourself here musk, unless youre trying to buy this site too you fat retard lol

[Anonymous No.6763785]

>>6763729
>He has flaws alright, but having flaws doesn't prevent to have qualities either
You notan-brains can't handle nuances, amiright, rendering must be for sissies. Hitler was a total dick, but he still put Germany back on track economically.

Go read a book with words or something.

[Anonymous No.6763787]

>>6761952
>It's X SAY IT IT'S X SAY IT SAY IT SAY IT
I'm sorry I offended your social media pronouns anon

[Anonymous No.6763789]

I want to use twitter but the "unlock" feature makes it so I have to tweet a bunch of stuff before I can post my art in any tags and I hate it.

[Anonymous No.6764262]

>>6763658
Wut. I'm just asking why is Musk obsessed with adding X to everything like some 13 years old lmao. I just thought its cringey.

[Anonymous No.6764640]

so is there an good alternative people are migrating to yet?

[Anonymous No.6764707]

>>6764262
>why
He is a retarded violent dumbass. And also getting old, so his autistic bullshit intensifies.

[Anonymous No.6764715]

>>6758583

[Anonymous No.6764717]

>>6764262
I thought you were being sarcastic to >>6759876, who seems to consider (like you then) that Musk is a teenager and not a grown up man. Anyway, I'm out, you guys are literally babies drawing porn in their mom's basement who genuinely think they can run multi-billions dollar businesses better than a made who literally launched a bunch of them already.

If adding X to stuff is cringey, by your own standard you're like die übercringen

[Anonymous No.6764723]

>>6764717
>better than a made who literally launched a bunch of them already.
He didn't launch them he just bough them up and then pretended that he did it.

[Anonymous No.6764740]

>>6758583
Now that Uncle Elon has destroyed the woke swarm, where are they moving to????

[Anonymous No.6764743]

>>6764717
don't question anything, just consooom.

[Anonymous No.6764788]

>>6764723
>>6764743
> If you're not shitting on Musk, you're in love with him.
Two more nuance-free brains.

You really think if he'd been faking it for this long it wouldn't be public knowledge? You know how the guy communicates with his employees? Via company-wide emails. AND he's know for being a micro-manager. Put the two together: every mf employee can literally asses whether he's full of shit or actually skilled. And Tesla, Space X employees a little bit more advanced intellectually than people living on mom's income struggling to draw digital furry porn.

You guys can't think for yourself and will simply follow those who yell the loudest because you don't have enough courage to build yourself. Yet you shit on people who actually build themselves so as to impact the life of millions of people, without giving them any credit.

Übercringen, envious lazy asses.

[Anonymous No.6764839]

Nice "troll" sojourn

[Anonymous No.6764927]

>>6764640
no

[Anonymous No.6764962]

>>6764788
Life is easy if you're born rich. He is foremost a businessman and investor. It doesn't matter much whether he mentally matured beyond the age of 13 or not, because the system is built in his favor. You really think the employees would completely speak out their honest minds when that would lower their future prospects for a job?
Think for yourself. Don't just take what the so-called self-made billionaire businessman tells you about him being a genius engineer and inventor as a fact.
Billionaires are the greatest gangsters of our times, there is no way to morally acquire so much wealth when there are still many people dying from hunger, thirst, cold, heat. Their immense wealth is not deserved. Yet the majority thinks like you, they give credit and say that their immense wealth is deserved and rightful. It is why we live in these times where rich businessmen shake hands with the highest political leaders from around the world and openly dream about slave colonies on Mars.

[Anonymous No.6765587]

>>6764788

>>Yet you shit on people who actually build themselves so as to impact the life of millions of people, without giving them any credit.
Let's see

>>"Anyone who wishes to do remote work must be in the office for a minimum (and I mean *minimum*) of 40 hours per week or depart Tesla. This is less than we ask of factory workers," Musk wrote.

>>Elon Musk has confirmed that he has fired over 80 per cent of the entire workforce of Twitter so far. The billionaire took over Twitter in October last year and carried out multiple rounds of layoffs after the $44 billion-takeover. Musk, in an interview with BBC, on Twitter Spaces announced that only 1,500 of the around 8000 Twitter employees are still employed at the company.

Great impact to the lives of millions of people out there!

>AND he's know for being a micro-manager.
Even if this is true, then he should likely stick with being a middle manager instead of the top manager because managing people is clearly one of his worst skills. And stop solving every single problematic situation by firing people.

[Anonymous No.6765613]

>>6765587
Imagine letting free an infestation of useless pajeets and worthless HR women
What a great CEO you are KEK

[Anonymous No.6765618]

>>6764640
There are alternatives that people are already migrating to.
All of them will come back of course since the alternatives are hobbyist projects, have no vision, lack long-term funding, or general incompetency.

It's like when reddit cut short API access to third parties...such as google and microsoft basically constantly scraping the shit out of the site for free, and most of the mods had a chimpout because they think they deserve free shit. Wasn't long before reddit goes back to normal because who gives a fuck?? Its another kneejerking non-issue

[Anonymous No.6765870]

>>6765618
>people literally go crawling back to their ex because normalfags won't budge and artists need to stay with their paypigs
Truly continues to be the worst worldline, but at least there's that bit of comedy in the name change.

[Anonymous No.6766423]

I hate the antichrist!!

[Anonymous No.6766453]

>>6764962
>Life is easy if you're born rich
No. Some aspects of life are easier, but life isn't easier.

> You really think the employees would completely speak out their honest minds when that would lower their future prospects for a job?
And you really think high-skilled tech employees 1) are cowards 2) cannot move to another business and then speak freely? 3) lol that Telsa's competition wouldn't be very happy to receive Tesla's employees?

I'm to lazy to slice all your arguments. You seem to often start reasoning from false premises. You can obviously derive anything from there.

> Think for yourself
You have no idea how laughable this is to tell me something like this. Really.

>>6765587
What's the problem with demanding long-weeks from high-paid posts? You don't want that kind of working condition: that's fine, move elsewhere, nobody's preventing you from doing so.

You don't seem to be aware that the amount of BS in a business is precisely caused by endless layers on useless hierarchy, which attracts all the lazy asses politicized people who want to climb up the ladder without working. Flattening the structure and firing lazy people is a great way to improve *working* conditions, for people who are here to work, and not to sit around collecting paychecks.

Also, "impacting the life of people" was precisely chosen for its neutrality, precisely to avoid delving into discussing whether the impact is positive or negative. Anyway.

[Anonymous No.6766482]

>>6764962
>>6766453
>Life is easy if you're born rich
The ultra-rich have less problems on the micro-scale of things, but much bigger ones in the macro-scale, with the punishment for fucking up being a lot bigger since you're often in charge of something very important, so there's a lot of pressure. If you're poor and you fuck up your responsibility, you're, at worst, just gonna fuck yourself over. If you're rich, then you're fucking with the livelyhoods of hundreds of people who depend on the institutions you're responsible for managing at best. At worst, millions of people are gonna die and it's gonna go down in the history books as your fault.

[Anonymous No.6766507]

did Elon manage to destroy the woke mind virus or what

[Anonymous No.6766519]

>>6766507
Yes, by taking away features and paywalling speak

[Anonymous No.6766524]

>>6766519
Speech*

[Anonymous No.6766525]

>>6766482
There's this, but I was thinking about more mundane things.

People think money makes life smoother, but you get used to it quickly. A good analogy is the hot shower: westerners today take a hot shower a day like it's nothing, but a few centuries ago, that would have been a blessing to be able to shower in hot water so effortlessly even once a week.

It's the same thing with having a Jet or eating out everyday.

Besides, rich people still also can't escape social issues among their peers: if everyone around you is about as rich as you, it becomes much less important, and they basically will have the same kind of BS you have at poorer scales. Some of them are quite miserable, aware that their wealth can't shield them from death, or in constant fear of losing their wealth, or constantly trying to increase their wealth no matter what, crying over some girl they just can't have or whatever.

But from the outside, all those details are imperceptible, and there's a strong tendency to idealize what a rich's life is. This works both way btw: some rich people think thing poorfags are just dumb uneducated lazy asses.

[Anonymous No.6766555]

>>6766525
Idk man I think you're conflating satisfaction with life and stress. Wealthy people may not always be more happy but there is a type of 24/7 stress they are exempt from. As a kid they always had food. Their next door neighbor is not a violent criminal that the cops won't arrest. Their house doesn't have vermin. They can go to good dentists and doctors for regular checkups. They can get a car that doesn't break down. They can get an education and tuition is provided. They wear fashionable clothes that impress people instead poor people clothes. And a million other things.
Anecdotally every rich kid I've met (as in family private jet wealthy) has struck me as really clueless about anything beyond their lifestyle. Maybe that comes with its own challenges. But beats the hell out of poverty.

[Anonymous No.6766560]

You couldn't pay me to go back to twitter. It's actually impressive just how much the albino hunchback african fucked the site over. It's impossible to gain steam there anymore without paying, and even being a paypig alienates a large enough portion of people to offset your growth. Very grateful I don't do commissions because holee fuck do I feel bad for you sorry shits having to put up with this.

[Anonymous No.6766561]

>>6766453
>Also, "impacting the life of people" was precisely chosen for its neutrality, precisely to avoid delving into discussing whether the impact is positive or negative.
Won't read all that shit but can I just pick this out to say something? Does "impacting the life of people" actually have inherent value? Whether if it is positive or negative? I say NO. The impact must be positive and moral to be valuable. This is the most stupid bootlicking ever, to bootlick people just because they have power. Please bootlick the people who are actually trying to improve the state of humanity and earth, if you absolutely must bootlick.
>>6766482
>At worst, millions of people are gonna die and it's gonna go down in the history books as your fault.
Yes, and then you will retire on some island paradise and enjoy a relaxed life of luxury far away from the public eye.
If you're poor and fuck up, you die. If you're rich and fuck up, you give up some miniscule part of your wealth or disappear from the public and every wrong will be forgiven and forgotten.

[Anonymous No.6766567]

>>6766525
>But from the outside, all those details are imperceptible, and there's a strong tendency to idealize what a rich's life is. This works both way btw: some rich people think thing poorfags are just dumb uneducated lazy asses.
The grass is always greener on the other side. People idealize - yeah, and vilify too - what they don't have.

>>6766555
>but there is a type of 24/7 stress they are exempt from.
They just have a completely different, in some ways worse 24/7 stress to deal with. Life is life, regardless of if you're rich or poor. Not all problems are universal, but having problems is.
I'm reminded of an old saying that "Kings don't have friends - they have subjects and potential enemies."

[Anonymous No.6766584]

>>6766567
>Life is life, regardless of if you're rich or poor.
This isn't wisdom, it's nonsense equivocation because you don't know better.
>Not all problems are universal, but having problems is.
Not all problems are equal. Violent crime and hunger are existential threats.

[Anonymous No.6766594]

>>6766567
>The grass is always greener on the other side.
This saying only works if the two parts are equals. In this case, the grass on the other side occupies a lot more land, has flowers and trees, a fountain, a pool, bush sculptures, and employed people are looking after all of it. You only got a little patch of yellow grass among grey concrete buildings and smog.

[Anonymous No.6766691]

>>6766555
>there is a type of 24/7 stress they are exempt from
Yeah, but they have some other stress. Like, imagine you're working at an investment firm managing millions of dollars of assets:you screw up, your clients lose their life retirement money/savings, your reputation is destroyed, etc.

> They can go to good dentists and doctors for regular checkups
They're not exempt from cancer and other shitty illnesses, accidents, or mental issues. You know, there are reasons why some famous singers commit suicide despite having money, fame and pretty much everything a random guy thinks he want.

> Anecdotally every rich kid I've met (as in family private jet wealthy) has struck me as really clueless about anything beyond their lifestyle
There you go. Those guys will suck at pretty much anything in life later on, they'll be extremely superficial, and will be extremely dependent on their environment.

They're extremely fragile, surrounded by equally fragiles people, over-protected by clueless adults.

In the past, and I think it still happens, at least anecdotally, some wealthy businesses owners would have their kids climb up the social ladder from the very bottom before handing them the keys to inheritance, precisely to avoid those issues.

[Anonymous No.6766701]

>>6766561
>Won't read all that shit
That's 30s of your life but here you go:
> tl;dr meritocracy is good.

There's no bootlicking. I have no problem acknowledging potential strength when I see it, even if it's in the hand of someone I disagree with. I'm neutral.

I just didn't wanted to delve into evaluating whether what he's doing is good or bad, because that's too difficult/lengthy. Remember, you can't spend 30s of your life reading 3 sentences, and hastily rush to insulting conclusion because someone said something that doesn't perfectly align with your views.

>Yes, and then you will retire on some island paradise and enjoy a relaxed life of luxury far away from the public eye.
Not exactly.

You idealize things too much. Look at Jack Ma: richfags fight each others fiercely, you just don't perceive it. You think there's something like some unified group of rich niggers, but that's just completely false.

>>6766584
Hunger isn't a real issue in the West, AFAIK. There are people distributing food to the homeless many times a week in my town, homeless have a habit of harvesting wasted supermarket/bakeries food, etc.

>>6766594
Yeah, and maybe behind the curtains there's also a crazy wife fucking up your kid and threatening to get away with all your cash, or any other retarded story. That's the whole point of the adage: you don't know the reality of the situation on the other side as long as you haven't dig deeply, and were you to really know what's behind the curtain, you may not want to leave your comfy spot.

The adage was precisely meant to guard against idealization: you can't know that things *are* truly, *objectively* equals, unless you've known them both deeply. And you do NOT know them both deeply, you are, literally in your example, idealizing one side.

[Anonymous No.6766731]

>>6766701
t. sheltered rich kid. As someone who has lived this reality it's fucking embarrassing listening to people like you talk.

Tell you what, why don't you find where the ghetto is in your city. Look at a heat map of violent crime, it's the red area. Drive there at 2 AM and talk to some random people on the street. I mean, everyone is just the same as gated communities, right?

[Anonymous No.6766753]

>>6766731
I've actually grown up literally on the border of a ghetto, just had to cross a street, and spent a few weeks homeless at some point in my life.

I have a habit of talking to random people (I don't fear humans, really), and I know how to pull myself off "uneasy" situations. Most people don't have an incentive to beat you up for the sake of beating you up. If I'd go in red areas in my town, I likely wouldn't get beaten up, because that'd be bad "for business".

But I have a good background in human relation/psychology, and have known people from all ways of life, because as I told you, I have a habit of talking to random people.

[Anonymous No.6766760]

>>6766753
A childhood in poverty is impoverished. No, being rich is not equally bad. I'm not even going to waste time pulling the objective statistics that directly correlate poverty with almost every bad outcome in life because you're an idiot and now you're bullshitting.

[Anonymous No.6767590]

>>6766482
>If you're rich, then you're fucking with the livelyhoods of hundreds of people who depend on the institutions you're responsible for managing at best.
You are implying that the rich would be people with morals who care about the employees and consider them people instead of statistics.

Do you think an army general gives fuck about the lives of the soldiers that die? No they do not care! Do you think an executive cares about the lives of people they fire just make the bottom line of heir yearly result better for their investors? No they do not care.

People at such position do everything to dehumanize their entire work and to have no qualms about doing anything, almost literally anything, just to get ahead.

Look at how Elon fired 80% of Twitter staff as the first thing when he took over. But even people in this very thread were saying:
>>Imagine letting free an infestation of useless pajeets and worthless HR women
Because it is incredibly easy to think about people as a faceless nameless mass of nobodies.

So do try to this "rich people feeling morally responsible" bullshit when this is obviously not true.