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I can't draw at all how long would it take too start drawing decent muscular women?

How even do I get started?

>> No.6743779

>>6743775
Find pictures of muscular women and draw what you see.

>> No.6743806

>>6743779
I can't draw them nearly as they look like tho

>> No.6743819

>>6743806
Draw more

>> No.6743834

>>6743819
I haven't even started yet I need some foundation

>> No.6743847

>>6743834
Keys to drawing is the best /beg/ book there is. Work through it and do the exercises, by the end of it you'll be able to better draw what you actually see. After that pick up any figure drawing book/course that's usually recommended here: Vilppu, Loomis, Huston, Hampton, etc. Doesn't really matter who you start with, your figures will look like crap for a very long time. Draw daily, do timed poses at quickposes com. Don't get discouraged if it looks bad, drawing takes a lot of time to learn, but you'll see improvement with time as long as you draw as often as you can. Gl

>> No.6743855

>>6743847
Aww ok idek if I can do this but I'll do it to draw muscular women

>> No.6743872
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6743872

I started to draw 2 years ago to draw anime and vidya babes wrestling. I would advice you to study your favorite artists and studying things that you apply to things you want to draw

>> No.6743881

>>6743872
Umm this is amazing

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6744029

>>6743775
Depends on your definition of decent. Took me about three months to be able to do this, but I was grinding fairly hard.
Since you know what you want to draw, it won't take more than a year as long as you put the work in

>> No.6744249

>>6744029
>Dunning Kreuger: The Post

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6744262

>>6744029

>> No.6744310

>>6743881
You are either a samefag or just need glasses very badly.

>> No.6744395

>>6744029
This is the type of stuff I wanna do

>> No.6744400

>>6744395
Please set your sights a little higher, anon

>> No.6744409

>>6744395
You can do better
>>6744029
You can too. The rendering isn't awful, now just focus on everything else.

>> No.6744472

Boxes

>> No.6744545
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6744545

>>6743775
couldn't be more than a month.

Simply do what >>6743779 tells you, find a bunch of artists that draw this that you like and copy them. I like zhvo

https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/5901433?q=zhvo
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/5308852?q=zhvo

>> No.6744565

>>6744545
>one month
Delusional

>> No.6744596

>>6744400
>>6744409
I'll try ..I mean I can probably do it
How do u learn how too pixel art could be fun I draw like a kid tho

>> No.6744603

>>6744249
>>6744262
>>6744310
>>6744400
>>6744409
>>6744565
pyw from 3 months and pyw from 2 years of learning how to draw
>>6744596
It takes a lot of work, but you got it anon

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6744618

>>6744596
You should also just copy other artists there and pixel art is just trying to represent something as best as you can in a very very tiny space. However, you should probably pace yourself a little, dont try too hard on both and end up being being good at neither

>> No.6744643

>>6743775
>normal arms
>normal legs
>normal curvaceous 2d body
>random abs

pls

>> No.6744672

>>6744603
>>6744618
So basically just draw and keep learning stuff?
Can I just use any pencil and paper too practice?

>> No.6744694

Op here any references or anything too draw muscles on bodies and stuff sorry I'm very very new

>> No.6744697

>>6744603
Your snowflake behaviour is always hilarious.

>>6744672
Stop asking beginners for advice lol.

>> No.6744699

>>6744694
Uh, sure, you know, you've pobably already heard of them. They are called photos.
Seriously dude, are you really this much of a dumbass?

>> No.6744703

>>6744694
Photos, and also you should use search-by-tag in danbooru, pixiv, and other art spaces:

https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=muscular_female

https://www.pixiv.net/en/tags/%E7%AD%8B%E8%82%89%E5%A8%98/illustrations

>> No.6744723

>>6744699
>>6744703
So I can just copy what I see?

>> No.6744736

>>6744723
Yeah sure, copy what you see, mix them around, try to integrate stuff from other characters or from multiple artists you like, if you see a cool pose or body type for instance, try drawing another character in that body type by checking the character's art, etc etc.

>> No.6744761

>>6744736
Ok I'll try it...I'm just making shapes rn and learning stuff

>> No.6744778

>>6744697
Oh I really am special. I wasn't sure, but you just confirmed it. Keep crabbing my friend! I'll look out for you whenever I post
here ;)

>> No.6744789
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>>6743775
First and foremost is to get a good understanding of human anatomy, you have to understand the structure of the meat underneath. There are plenty of artists in this genre of drawing hot buff women that have made guides just like this one. I recommend Oddsnail, they have quite a few guides like this.

>> No.6744804

>>6744789
This is not true at all, you need to learn how to draw first by getting at least a slight grasp on the fundamentals and improving your observation. Then you need to learn the basic proportions of the human body. Anatomy like this comes much later

>> No.6744845
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6744845

>>6744804
I guess I got lost in the terminology, I was under the impression that anatomy was a wider term that included proportions, facial and body structure and more. But of course fundamentals like perspective and understanding the porper use of angles, distance and 3d space are crucial for any artist and are just a given for no matter what you are trying to draw.

>> No.6745052

>>6744845
A beginner wouldn't know that though, they would think your images are what you're referring to, and that's far too advanced for someone that's prebeg, really. I agree with you generally though

>> No.6745060

>>6744845
uhh these all fall flat if you don't understand form first.

>> No.6745219

Op here
Been making shapes all day but making eclipses are hard it doesn't make sense

>> No.6745257

Op here what if I draw anime characters I see will that help me

>> No.6745259

>>6745219
>making eclipses are hard
Practice more, you need to develop a good use of your arm to be able to draw lines and shapes

>> No.6745266

>>6745259
Idek how to do it I'll keep trying I guess

>> No.6745299

If I start drawing a bunch of abs for fun and drawing crappy anime girls will I get better? Should I gain some common sense?

>> No.6745370

>>6745257
If that‘s what you want to get good at drawing sure

>> No.6745389
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6745389

>>6743775
Here are my 18 month gains and here is my writeup about it:
>>/ic/thread/6715512#p6717479
tl;dr
>get accuracy to 80%
>learn the basics of gesture and construction
>steal a process from a better artist
>use that process to conduct studies of other artists
>use what you learn from those artists to conduct photo studies
>do memory drawings of all your studies to enforce those lessons
>gradually deviate from references to practice imaginative drawing

lmk if you have any questions

>> No.6745562
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6745562

>>6743775
You should use a reference picture to draw muscles. I personally use myself as a reference, and I also save a lot of bodybuilder pictures from Pinterest to use as references. I recommend checking out Sketchfab / anatomyforsculptors dot com and using their 3D figure viewer to draw/learn anatomy.

>> No.6745682

I'm doing ok drawing muscle girls, the issue comes when I have to paint the draws though. I cannot render for shit, my colors are all over the place

>> No.6745705

>>6745682
Have you tried actually practicing painting?

>> No.6745789

>>6745705
Well, how do you think I know I am shit at painting?

>> No.6745907

>>6745370
Yeah I just worship muscle

>> No.6746126

>>6743872
Deviantart tier

>> No.6746138
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6746138

>>6745389
you are my inspiration, I hope I can make it like you did

Can you tell me what you did to learn construction?
I'm going through loomis but It's so weird

>> No.6746148
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6746148

>>6745389
can you please tell me what accuracy percentage this is?

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6746169

>>6743775
on a muscle girl quest since 2021

avg ~1-2 hours a day

>> No.6746173
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6746173

>>6746169
holy shit you're are good

do you have a blog?

Also, can you tell me what construction method do you use?

>> No.6746220

>>6746173
thanks
I think I have a long way to go

>do you have a blog?
huh yeah...
https://twitter.com/coomerdorf

>Also, can you tell me what construction method do you use?
I started with hutson, the best imo but his book is too short. then I went through morpho simplified anatomy and then morpho muscular bodies, copying from both the books and photographs. for gesture I would suggest hampton or vilppu (only a couple of pages of each, not the entire book). I will suggest you to do through only one source at time. if you know absolutely nothing on construction these instructions should be enough https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUcYTAiCQyQ before getting into the books

>> No.6746273

>>6745389
How long did you spend training accuracy? Also you're probably one of the few people on here who actually knows what they're talking about

>> No.6746377

Op here I can't draw silhouettes this seems impossible


>>6745389
Holy I love you

>> No.6746379

>>6746377
Rome wasn't built in a day anon, you'll make it as long as you don't get discouraged

>> No.6746427

>>6746379
Idk how to draw eclipses like idek what I'm supposed to do ahh

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6746440

thanks for the subject, did a sketch.
She is a bare knuckle boxer.

>> No.6746442

>>6743775
1. Learn female anatomy
2. Draw
/thread

>> No.6746446

>>6746440
I'm really not that proud with her forehead

>> No.6746538

>>6746442
How do I learn how too draw parts of humans? I want too draw abs and muscles all day

>> No.6746559

>>6746138
Thanks!
For learning construction, I just mean understanding basic forms like boxes and cylinders, how to manipulate and rotate them, etc. I don't like Loomis desu, I prefer Hampton and Bridgman for learning the figure.
>>6746148
I'd say that's at least 80%.
>>6746273
I'm not entirely sure, I read DotRSotB a long time ago. I think I started my studies before I was truly "ready," and so I trained accuracy along with my studies as I was doing my Bridgman copies. As long as your accuracy isn't so bad that there's no point in doing your studies, you should be fine. And thanks, but if a better artist contradicts me, you should probably listen to them lol. I'm still learning too.
>>6746377
<3
Try flipping the reference upside-down for a bit, but don't crutch too hard on this. Just use it to understand how to look for angles and shapes.

>> No.6746636

I legit can't figure out how too look at stuff and figure out how too draw even the silhouette I'm trying tho...I'm just drawing stuff

>> No.6746645

>>6746636
>>6746559
here, I would work through Keys to Drawing if I was you

>> No.6746651

>>6746645
Is it in the sticky?

>> No.6746666

>>6746440
It's true what they say. Those without taste are literally blind to their own failures.

>> No.6746750

op here reading keys too drawing and now im appreciating beauty and staring at muscle abs over and over

>> No.6746844

>>6746440
cute

>> No.6747620

>>6746750
Based

>> No.6747674

>>6746666
retard I was fucking PRACTICING

>> No.6748566

>>6747674
Lol

>> No.6748662

>>6747674
seethe. Practice in quiet and in quantity.

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6749350

>>6746220
You are GODLY

Thank you so very much!

I kneel before my muscle girl lover brethren