Is AI actually useful?

[Anonymous No.6717204]

So far I've seen it be implemented into Unity, PS, CSP, Blender, other programs, now it has controlnet, comfyAI, everything and yet so far the only mainstream uses I've seen for it are... a whole bunch of patreon and pixiv pornpost 1girl, a lot of porn games, Firmament(fine game), the intro to marvel's new show(acceptable), corridor crew's RPS video(really good), and one videogame called Artist Life Simulator which, ironically, used AI Art to create images based on your current situation/objective/whatever(extremely good and novel use).

I don't even hate AI but it looks like it SHOULD be obviously useful, but then where is it?

[Anonymous No.6717208]

>>6717204
youre seeing what happens when supply over runs demand.
its as usefull as water. life giving, but also not hard to come by to where we dont think about it.

[Anonymous No.6717213]

>>6717204
the future is here but it is not spread equally yet, give it time. its only been out about a year

[Anonymous No.6717224]

>>6717204
Apparently not lmao
Both midjourney and chatgpt failed their targetted demographic because, by nature, all they do is predict the most likely statistic.

This can pass tests but never the fieldwork as the real world is never generic. In fact, the most unique problems are the most dangerous

[Anonymous No.6717231]

>>6717213
>its only been out about a year
video is where it will make waves I think. once you have coherent video, all bets are off. How are things looking 5 years out?
I saw a guy generate a playable video of GTA5 by training it on hours of footage and button inputs. That kind of tech in 5 years along with the rest of the AI advancements, gonna be weird.

[Anonymous No.6717271]

>>6717204
Useful, but you aren't going to see it in a professional context until the AI hate starts to die down. Also, it takes quite a bit of time to actually make a game; so you likely aren't going to see the decent stuff for a while yet.
Because of survivor bias, you're just going to see grifters who don't care about public perception put out shovelware shit so there's not going to be that many examples of useful AI usage out there right now.

[Anonymous No.6717273]

Stop replying to yourself pajeet.

[Anonymous No.6717279]

>>6717224
>Both midjourney and chatgpt failed their targetted demographic because
What even is a 'targetted demographic' for ChatGPT?
ChatGPT literally uprooted the entire AI scene and made a multi-billion dollar monopoly shit their pants. They're literally farming free data to this day.

[Anonymous No.6717311]

[Anonymous No.6717373]

>>6717279
They "claimed" that it will kill search engines lmao
It didn't, it won't, and it never will

1. It only generates predictive results
2. Results are often always inaccurate to avoid plagiarism

Kaboom!
We get cases like the Lawyer who asked ChatGPT for aid and it gave him sources that don't exist. He is currently in a case that can make him lose his license\

The only thing that AI will revolutionize is spam bots and that is all

[Anonymous No.6717391]

>>6717373
>They "claimed" that it will kill search engines lmao
This is a weird claim to be making. No chat bot can kill search engines because search engines have immense amounts of catalogued data that aren't all obtainable today.
Chat bots are best used in conjunction with search engines anyways. They're only going to change how users use search engines in the future. I.E. kill outdated search engine algorithms.
>It didn't, it won't, and it never will
Yeah, I if you're already setting immense expectations for an emerging technology, then it's always going to seem subpar and useless.
Google had to release Bard in a haphazard state just to signal that they had a competitive technology. You can be pessimistic about tech's future growth, but you can't just shrug off an industry paradigm shift.

>We get cases like the Lawyer who asked ChatGPT for aid and it gave him sources that don't exist. He is currently in a case that can make him lose his license\
Yeah, because he's a retard that doesn't understand technology or how LLMs actually work. They're best just used to get an initial high-level overview on a topic, not explain all the details with accuracy.
If you prompt engineer an LLM in the wrong direction, it's just going to hallucinate and spit out garbage. It's sad that ChatGPT combined with live search engine data is still leagues better than Google's shitty search algorithm even with this problem.
>The only thing that AI will revolutionize is spam bots and that is all
It just sounds like you just want AI to fail, anon. What did AI do to harm you?

[Anonymous No.6717397]

>>6717231
Ai video is already happening but you'll never get a quality and coherent feature length ai movie that compares with real film from simply typing in a prompt

[Anonymous No.6717544]

>>6717391
>prompt engineer
Love this term because it instantly reveals pseuds and grifters

[Anonymous No.6717547]

>>6717391
>search engines have immense amounts of catalogued data that aren't all obtainable today.
That's putting it lightly. They have a couple hundred results now out of a supposed billions and search results start to replicate after a few pages in the same order across search engines. Calling them search engines anymore is a misnomer.

[Anonymous No.6717549]

>when the AI hate starts to die down
lol
lmao

[Anonymous No.6717559]

>>6717544
If you think im a pseud then why don't you contribute to the discussion instead of reddit downvoting? I'd like to see your opinions on the tech.

[Anonymous No.6717562]

>>6717559
>contribute to the discussion
this isn't reddit

[Anonymous No.6717564]

[Anonymous No.6717565]

>>6717562
So you'd rather we shitpost the board to death then? What is the point if there's no discussion?

[Anonymous No.6717567]

>>6717204
>corridor crew's RPS video(really good)
maybe if you never saw decent animation in your life
It looks passable at best and that is in spite of the trash SD filter not thanks to it. I think your standards are very low.

Its not seeing mass adoption by artists because its meant to replace them entirely. It is like asking an artisan cordwainer to go work in a knockoff Nike factory. No one who actually does art ever asked for this and the few who do only use it to save time at the cost of everything else.

[Anonymous No.6717569]

>>6717549
It will die down once normalfags get tired of it and once art portals implement better filters.

[sage No.6717571]

>>6717565
the shitposting happened when you shat up the board with another AI thread
kill yourself

[Anonymous No.6717576]

>>6717571
I didn't make the thread. I am simply trying to contribute to the discussion. It seems like you are angry for no reason, anon.

[Anonymous No.6717646]

>>6717569
They already have and it's called the Banhammer

[Anonymous No.6717651]

AI reflects the zeitgeist of the art it consumes. The techniques it exhibits were originally made by human hands, so in observing how AI presents things like folds in fabric, or foliage from a distance, or the lighting of a scene can be educational, and nothing is wrong with learning about its its ways of presentation.

[Anonymous No.6717654]

bump

[Anonymous No.6717656]

>>6717204
What you just listed are every ways for indie artists to survive.
So yeah, it's already replace artists in economic/material ways.1

[Anonymous No.6717665]

>>6717204
No. Only subhumans use it, like third worlders and redditors that brag about spamming these board. Ones who can't create are like cattle, wanting art to be consoomable and marketable, and artists who can create are real humanoids. It wouldn't be wrong to say we're more like gods. It makes the NPC subhumans, the demiurge, very angry.

[Anonymous No.6717678]

>>6717576
nta but fuck you for telling him he's angry for no reason

[Anonymous No.6717683]

>>6717678
It seems like you are angry for no reason, anon.

[Anonymous No.6717787]

>>6717665
based (but also a false flag post?)

[Anonymous No.6717790]

>>6717204
Of course it is, dumb fuck retard

[Anonymous No.6717791]

>>6717204
>where is it?
You just posted some examples.
>if AI hasn't completely replaced artists and workers then is not useful
No, dumby. AI is a tool.

[Anonymous No.6717839]

>>6717279
>uprooted
More like stabbed in the back. OpenAI still claims to make breakthrough research, but I haven't seen anything new or exciting since "Language Models are Few-Shot-Learners" and that was 3 years ago.
Fuck OpenAI and their strategy of embrace, extend, extinguish.

[Anonymous No.6718019]

>>6717839
The corpo closed-source turnaround is a shame, but at least it's starting to spark some renewed interest in developing FOSS models. I hope more proprietary models get "leaked" like LLaMA.
>but I haven't seen anything new or exciting since
I don't think that's an uncommon sentiment for people working with AI shit as a profession since you kind of just get jaded about everything else unless it's really close to your own research; but even for a hobbyist, there's still a myriad of things you can mess around with regarding local LLM models if you know how to program.
Huge advancements aren't usually on my radar since I already don't have enough hours in the day to dedicate to what I actually want to learn or work on. If it happens, it happens; I guess.

[Anonymous No.6718152]

>>6717391
>They're best just used to get an initial high-level overview on a topic, not explain all the details with accuracy.
So like a shitty search engine? Everything requiring any understanding of a topic that I've seen fed into an AI always spit out pseudoscientific horseshit
AI is like that smarmy cunt we all know who HAS to prove he's the smartest person in the room, but when somebody who actually knows(and cares) about the topic listens, they realize he's just a fucking idiot repeating shit he saw on reddit

[Anonymous No.6718236]

>>6718152
>So like a shitty search engine?
No, it's better than current search engine algorithms; which is a pretty low bar anyways. You always have to append site:x to your search engine prompts if you want to find anything useful.
>Everything requiring any understanding of a topic that I've seen fed into an AI always spit out pseudoscientific horseshit
Yes, LLMs have a hallucination problem. If your prompts are too broad, and it lacks info in the dataset; it'll just fill in the gaps with info that might sound correct. You can also tell the bot to correct itself, but this doesn't always work for tasks with complexity.
Generally, it's still pretty good at generating simple boilerplate code/text and topic overviews that don't need details. If you're not experienced with RegExp, it can output some basic text parsing commands for you, and it also has the capability of managing raw text and organizing it in a certain way; you just have to keep your individual prompts simple and do things iteratively if you want scaled complexity.

If you're the kind of person that tries jump into a new topic without any prior knowledge, it's good for generating a high-level overview of things that you can then research some more yourself with a search engine. Consequently, it's the best for programmers since they tend to have to learn new languages and concepts extremely frequently; but also have the base knowledge and problem solving skills needed to quickly recognize if the bot is just throwing out random bullshit; and pivot to researching with a search engine when the bot quickly expends its usefulness.
It's not going to be as good for the art field, which contains a lot more visual learning resources than text resources.

Likewise, if you know how to look for the relevant information repositories in search engines; an AI chatbot isn't going to be that useful unless you really want to use it. It's sometimes nice to just look at bot responses while resting your mind though.

[Anonymous No.6718240]

Might be an unpopular opinion, but it's useful in that it can generate reference photos for you to study the values, colors, composition of.

[Anonymous No.6718840]

>>6718240
Why not reference good art or good pictures instead... Theres no shortage of these.

[Anonymous No.6718843]

actual artists have been studying and using ai instead of bitching

[Anonymous No.6718849]

>>6718840
nta
Many are not tagged properly and it may take time to find something niche in the style you want. It takes a couple minutes to get a whole batch of what I'm looking for when generating.

[Anonymous No.6718850]

>>6718843
No, actual artists have been studying how to draw.
AI perma/beg/s who think they pass as artists are installing SD and coping

[Anonymous No.6718859]

>>6717204
Recent tech like AI art? No. Tech like what was used in Klaus and 3d Denoising? Yes, and those will get better over time.

[Anonymous No.6718902]

>>6717397
>Ai like DALL-E is already happening but you'll never get a quality and coherent ai image from simply typing in a prompt
>>two years ago
I agree it won't ever be close to actual film but I look forward to the scifi horrors shows that await

[Anonymous No.6718990]

>>6717279
>>6717373
It gave me fake answers when I ask it to find me a quote from a TV show. Gave me a line that doesn't even exist.

[Anonymous No.6719163]

>>6718902
>Ai like DALL-E is already happening but you'll never get a quality and coherent ai image from simply typing in a prompt
And you still can't

[Anonymous No.6719192]

I like to use AI art just to steal the composition/idea, robot do not have property rights and therefore I can freely use/edit as I please.
Also it's good to understand lighting (at least in some ways) and if you ignore the fucked up proportions it can be good ressource material.

[Anonymous No.6719215]

>>6719192
That's not 'robot', that the accumulated stolen material from a thousand artists.

[Anonymous No.6719229]

I've accepted fate. AI art is here, there is no putting the genie back in the bottle.

I'm going to start pivoting my commission model to offer fixing up AI generated images at low cost.
I figure, with the prompt "engineers" pumping out 100s of images and no ability to effectively edit them, there are many that they would like to keep but have to throw out.

That's where I could come in and fix the extra fingers or weird eyes. Shouldn't take too long so it could be a fairly cheap service, or I could work in bulk (send me 10 at a time etc) still thinking about the details.
I truly am just a brush-monkey now. And there's nothing wrong with that.

[Anonymous No.6719254]

>>6717204
I predict that it's true practical use will be in automating grunt work and filling in the gaps in human creations, as well as creating variants of existing ideas quickly.

Right now it's being treated as a toy and a novelty by people who don't know how to draw, but in the future AI elements are going to be integrated into a lot of media you see, and you won't even realize it, just like you don't notice all the greenscreen work that appears in television dramas and cop shows.

[Anonymous No.6719258]

>>6717271
>you aren't going to see it in a professional context until the AI hate starts to die down

Secret Invasion used it for their intro and everyone lost their damn minds.

[Anonymous No.6719261]

>>6719258
>everyone lost their damn minds.
It their reasoning was "AI looks weird and ugly and thats the direction we want"
And even then everyone complained and told it look awful.

[Anonymous No.6719267]

>>6719163
>like DALL-E
Try reading anon

[Anonymous No.6719272]

>>6719254
>you won't even realize it
This is the part a lot of people don't get.
They recognize some images as AI generated, then assume that they are 100% at spotting it.
That certainly won't be the case 5 years from now, and might not be the case even now. Context matters a lot. If you were shown a good AI image where you had no reason to expect it to be AI, you would likely have a lot harder of a time detecting it.

So far the AI art (about 80% is AI) in my game has gone unmentioned, I've even gotten compliments on it. :)
So, already it's possible to make AI art that passes as handmade. It's important to accept and deal with that, as it's only going to continue in that direction.

[Anonymous No.6719273]

>>6719272
>5 years from now
Damn, thats a lot more than 2 more weeks. I've heard its about 20 years from now, are you sure its only 5?

[Anonymous No.6719284]

>>6719273
If you want to put your head in the sand about the development from like 2020 to now, you go right ahead and do that. I understand it may be a defense mechanism for you.

[Anonymous No.6719299]

>>6717204
>Asks if AI is useful
>Posts examples of AI being useful

[Anonymous No.6719402]

>>6717204
>why doesnt this new thing instantly replace everything in the industry where planning shit for months if not years is how things get made and only after the market shows something is viable

you can already make any 2D image you want, ever, it will slowly be used more and more just how its slowly being integrated in all of the products you mentioned

[Anonymous No.6719426]

>>6719272
it's literally the same pajeets posting the same shit everytime

[Anonymous No.6719444]

>>6719426
because the people actually interesting in producing decent stuff with ai tools aren't going to be shitposting on /ic/.

[Anonymous No.6719525]

>>6719272
>t's important to accept and deal with that, as it's only going to continue in that direction.
We will deal with that by gatekeeping digital art entirely. Digital will be the medium of tasteless amateurs and soulless corporate productions.

[Anonymous No.6719545]

>>6718850
the AI version is better, even the hands

[Anonymous No.6719630]

>>6719229
An ai janny. What a miserable fate for you.

[Anonymous No.6719635]

>>6719545
Art life hack. Paint shiny gold shit and normies will love it. Gold=value, more shiny=more value. Throw in some glowing crystals and baby You got a stew goin

[Anonymous No.6719659]

No
/thread

[Anonymous No.6719673]

Is this the thread where we post cope that will age like milk and then we go onto moving the goal posts after bitching about tv show intros and Ubisoft? Just late last year you guys were laughing at bootleg Dalle blobs.
>it's just a fad, a gimmick, the use-case examples you gave me suck
And then you bipolar queens go back to being emotional and screaming for bans.

https://youtu.be/PQMNCXR-WF8

[Anonymous No.6719678]

>>6719673
2 more weeks

[Anonymous No.6719679]

>>6717576
>I didn't make the thread
lol, lmao

[Anonymous No.6719682]

>>6718843
they've given up on art then? sad

[Anonymous No.6719686]

>>6719682
They've given up on "art" and have embraced creation. Their societal shackles have fallen off and only true freedom awaits them now.

[Anonymous No.6719697]

>>6719525
I've said it in the other thread, neck yourself.

[Anonymous No.6719698]

>>6719686
trying too hard, anon

[Anonymous No.6719712]

>>6719698
The world of creation is limitless, anon. One day you'll realize that digital art is only one infinitesimal aspect of the endless possibilities of creation.
Greed and prejudice inhibits the growth of true creativity.

[Anonymous No.6719726]

>>6719697
t. assmad digicuck

[Anonymous No.6719824]

>>6719525
>Digital will be the medium of tasteless amateurs and soulless corporate productions
>will be

digital art has always been the tryhard little brother to tradchad
Going from rudimentary paint programs to content-aware-fill and pen stabilizing and so on, it's always been clear that the tools will take over the digital realm. And nobody complained, at least this much, about those incremental steps towards this inevitable outcome, until we finally got here.

[Anonymous No.6719946]

Imagine believing that machine creation counts as "art" because you suggested a few words or a sketch.
AI is the pinnacle of the "idea guy" who didn't want to put any work into getting better at their craft so instead they ask someone else to do the dirty job, imagine your "art" looking the same as another million people
You own nothing

[Anonymous No.6719953]

>>6719946
>who didn't want to put any work into getting better at their craft
This is like asking why digital artists don't put the work into learning how to program art software before they can draw something.

[Anonymous No.6719963]

>>6719953
disingenuous retard, digital art is just another tool, an artist chooses their tools according to their liking (If I like the textuure and color of crayons in traditional art, I use crayons, If I like the ability to Ctrl+Z in digital art, I use that, etc)
Are you gonna blame cavemen for painting things in the wall with rocks and fluids?
You take the pencil from an master artist and they can use something else, even their own blood and create a masterpiece.
You take AI from an "artist" and they are nothing.

[Anonymous No.6719966]

>>6719824
>>6719953
you're genuinely retarded or false-flagging, probably the latter

[Anonymous No.6719973]

>>6719963
>You take AI from an "artist" and they are nothing.
No, they have all their other skills. You're the one being disingenuous by assuming people who use AI don't have any other skills.
>you're genuinely retarded or false-flagging, probably the latter
How so? I'd like to see your counter-argument, anon.

[Anonymous No.6719975]

>>6719973
>You're the one being disingenuous by assuming people who use AI don't have any other skills.
the exceptions are not the norm.

[Anonymous No.6719982]

>>6719973
you'd have to make an argument first instead of spouting an opinion, Aitroll-kun
>"n-no I'm totally a trad-"
sure you are, last (You) from me

[Anonymous No.6719983]

>>6719975
And why should the exceptionals take the hate along with the normalfags? I don't think that's fair.
It's like saying all artists are degenerates because a lot of them draw fetish porn.

[Anonymous No.6719998]

>>6719983
You are not supposed to praise laziness.
Also even though you could mass produce your own art, you'll need to get good first and be exceptional and unique, which is a contradiction to what most AIshills keep sputting about how AI will replace real artists by giving shitters a tool that makes all the work for them.
Same as saying that digital art is easier than trad art because of all the life saving tools

[Anonymous No.6720005]

>>6719998
>Also even though you could mass produce your own art, you'll need to get good first and be exceptional and unique,
I agree. You still have to be exceptional at using AI tools to their fullest potential.
>You are not supposed to praise laziness.
I'm not praising laziness. I think AI tools will just balance out the proportion of work needed for a much larger creation. For example, in videogames you would still need to produce the music and the programming; among all the immense amount of other components you need to make a competent product.
Assuming the time effort for these 3 components were equal, AI tools will simply lower the usual 33% of the effort needed to make the visual art aspect of a typical videogame. Solo game developers would be able to focus even more on the music and the programming aspects and scale their games much higher than they could have done before.
>most AIshills keep sputting about how AI will replace real artists by giving shitters a tool that makes all the work for them.
I don't think those people speak for everybody.

[Anonymous No.6720009]

>>6719982
How am I supposed to make an argument if all you've done is insult me? I can't provide a counter-argument if I don't even know the points you are contending with, anon.
>sure you are, last (You) from me
That's okay. You can take a break and come back to this thread later if you want to engage in a proper discussion again. Sometimes you need to take breaks in life to cool off and gather your thoughts.

[Anonymous No.6720019]

>>6719273
See >>6718902 color blobs to file with nothing but text prompts within a year/year and a half. Here's a video of eldrich horror with nothing but text prompts and a gpu (couldnt find original on desuarchive, faggot ticktok filter and streamable instead)
https://streamable.com/u4rh7e
>>6719966
You type like you don't know how to use a brush. pyw that is in a traditional medium

[Anonymous No.6720287]

[Anonymous No.6720355]

>>6719983
Artists do not draw fetish porn. As simple.

[Anonymous No.6720878]

IA passes

[Anonymous No.6720886]

Let me guess, you would still happily take life-saving medicine designed by an AI because you're a total hypocrite?

[Anonymous No.6720996]

>>6720886
I am not against AI but using hypocrisy as an argument is pretty weak.

[Anonymous No.6721039]

>>6720886
Explain how that's hypocrisy. Saying cops shouldn't be judge jury and executioner doesn't mean I'm a hypocrite when I ask a cop for help.

[Anonymous No.6721042]

>>6721039
*Rather a more fitting way to put it, given image ai and medicine ai are not the same, while utilizing similar resources, saying all cops are bad, doesn't mean I won't call the fire department if I need to,

[Anonymous No.6721164]

>>6720886
It doesn't follow that because someone is opposed to AI art they also have to be opposed to AI created medicine.

[Anonymous No.6721196]

>>6717204
Give it 80 more years anon.
They are literally trying to walk upwards a corner with amount of data instead of changing algorithm to something that makes sense but would require to take two steps back so it's better to sell out while people don't even care it looks like trash.

[Anonymous No.6721563]

>>6719192
>>6719215
Doesn't matter, it's perfectly fine to do this with original human art too. Nobody owns ideas.

[Anonymous No.6721635]

>>6719545
I'll give you that the design of the hair in the AI one is more appealing, but do the cheap shitty looking cosplay outfits not kill it for you at all?

[Anonymous No.6721890]

>>6717204
>where is it?
delusional

[Anonymous No.6721894]

>>6721890
Yep, totally fired due to chat GPT, not because the tech wank covid bubble has burst and firms have to find good excuses to show to investors.
Think a little. You people are getting played so easily its actually painful to watch.

[Anonymous No.6721903]

>>6721894
>tech wank covid bubble has burst and firms have to find good excuses to show to investors.
Literally that's the reason they're replacing them with AI.

[Anonymous No.6721931]

>>6717213
>give it time
ok

[Anonymous No.6721934]

>>6721931
And hack artists are afraid of stable diffusion.

[Anonymous No.6721956]

>>6721934
>who cares if new trees don't grow, we have grown trees already
Every good artist was mediocre at some point

[Anonymous No.6722001]

>>6721934
and Emad is afraid of a prison cell

[Anonymous No.6723607]

>>6721956
>>6722001
pyw in a traditional medium

[Anonymous No.6723859]

>>6721931
>thinking anything would stop thousands of prompt smiths from gen'ing AI Art.
You realize that a fairly basic gaming rig can do all the prompting they want, and doesn't even need an internet connection.
Explain how you'll regulate that, I'm waiting :)
Also, accuse me of making AI art?
>have stable diffusion make sketches based on my pieces
>boom, now I have a workflow trail
>oh also your slanderous allegations caused me some loss of sales :)

[Anonymous No.6723863]

>post contains the word "workflow"
yawn
kill yourself

[Anonymous No.6723868]

>anon quotes a random part of a post
>then gets very sleepy
>then mumbles about suicide to himself
you ok bud?

[Anonymous No.6723925]

>>6723868
lmao

[Anonymous No.6724139]

>>6719215
Bro, that's what human artists do
You study and admire all the artwork you like, smash it together in your stupid squishy human brain, and then put it on paper
It's barely different, just that the AI doesn't know what it's making or why, and isn't trying to make you feel or think a certain way
yet

[Anonymous No.6724149]

>>6724139
post your work, you sound like you never touched a pencil in your life

[Anonymous No.6724152]

>>6723859
> " :) :) :)"
lil bro really scared

[Anonymous No.6724322]

>>6724149
you sound like a woman or a tranny, they're the only ones that get so fucking defensive about AI art
have you ever referenced anything before in your life?
>UM WOW STEALING STEALING YOU'RE STEALING
have you ever looked at photographs or art by others and found inspiration in them?
>UM STEALING WOW THAT'S STEALING YOU'RE STEALING SO THAT'S SO P R O B L E M A T I C

[Anonymous No.6724329]

trying too hard, be more subtle

[Anonymous No.6724396]

>>6721196
>They are literally trying to walk upwards a corner with amount of data instead of changing algorithm to something that makes sense

>This is the real answer to OP's question

AI art right now isn't useful and it never will unless we come up with AGI because training anything on data can only go so far.
You need something that learn like a human being and not a computer, you need sentience or something close to it.
Machine Learning and Deep Learning aren't a replacement for the human's mind, just a tool since they can't think for themselves nor truly learning anything like a human.
AI art can't grasp complex concepts or remember anything for long so forget about it.

[Anonymous No.6724826]

>>6721931
Turing Police when?

[Anonymous No.6724837]

>>6724322
>have you ever looked at photographs or art by others and found inspiration in them?
This is a shill talking point. Computer algorithms cannot take "inspiration". AI "learning" is nothing but a buzzword when in reality all they're doing is putting data into a kind of database which they then query with prompts and computer algorithms do the rest. The same prompt with the same seed will always result in the same image.

[Anonymous No.6725039]

>>6724837
>The same prompt with the same seed will always result in the same image.

You also need same hardware down to serial numbers and even minor change will lead to drastically different result. It is deterministic but in practice it isn’t.

[Anonymous No.6725041]

>>6717204
You all weak. Cut your dick off already ai trannies.

[Anonymous No.6725243]

>>6725039
Hardware will introduce only small changes usually, but it's sort off a moot point because the chance of someone pulling out the exact same seed and prompt is like two people drawing the exact same picture.

[Anonymous No.6725402]

>>6717567
Exactly. And it's built on exploitation of said artists. Artists who inspire, motivate us and who we look up to. Only to be used to train this AI so that a select few can make big money from using artists that they don't respect nor understand. A bunch of nerds dictating the future of human creativity and expression and we let them because we live in a world full of very vocal, stupid, opinionated idiots.
Geee. Wonder why we don't see artists en masse abandoning their love for creativity to adopt this shit "workflow". It truly is one of the mysteries of all time...

[Anonymous No.6725417]

>>6724139
Don't speak for artists prompter. You don't understand the complexities and nuances that goes into the process of human creativity and it's so apparent in your mockery of an explanation of it.
If you were to post an actual drawing of yours we would all be proven right in assuming you're talking out your ass. Stay in your pod bugman and don't come back.

[Anonymous No.6725442]

>>6724322
Don't care, your ai art doesn't pass sis.

[Anonymous No.6725443]

>>6725041
Maybe look in the mirror. We're not the ones with tranny and BLM flags in our profiles.

[Anonymous No.6725522]

>>6725443
you say this while on 4chan on an anonymous board. Or will you try and redirect me to a reddit or twitter post

[Anonymous No.6725551]

>>6717204
Well, I've always struggled with art. But now I can make fantastic pieces of art, and work on my prompting to get even better results.
Finally I have a really versatile and powerful vehicle for creative expression, and I can't understate how good that feels.
So is it useful? Yeah I'd say it's useful.

[Anonymous No.6725858]

>>6725551
have a pity (You), for the effort of writing it

[Anonymous No.6726044]

As someone who studied art and writing for many years, and even before that loved reading and creating as a child, I can't say I see AI art,or AI writing, in a negative light. I've had books published, I used my own art as a basis for the covers. When I look at AI I just see a tool to assist what I could already do, and I really don't understand other creatives who view it as a threat, rather than an opportunity.

[Anonymous No.6726136]

I'll go even further, though this is unpopular here.

I seriously love AI Art. I love how it's democratized creative expression.
I'm sorry, but there is no turning back from this.

[Anonymous No.6726137]

>>6726044
only twitter/patreon hacks who draw fan-art are afraid of ai
because AI copies more efficiently and for free

[Anonymous No.6726142]

>>6726044
>>6726136
>>6726137
>t.

[Anonymous No.6726143]

>>6726136
ok but you don't have copyright nor ovaries.

[Anonymous No.6726145]

>>6726143
Why wouldn't I have copyright?
>b-b-b-but you can't copyright AI Art
Prove it's AI art go ahead I'm waiting :)

[Anonymous No.6726149]

>>6726145
Not hard, you clock AI art just like you clock trannies. Simply look at the hands.

[Anonymous No.6726153]

>>6726149
cute response, I accept your humbled defeat.

[Anonymous No.6726156]

>6726153
Stumped lol. Thanks for the (You) btw

[Anonymous No.6726157]

>>6726156
it's alright to be stumped, and I'm happy to give you a (you).
But you should try a little harder and make your posts more interesting/relevant to the topic.

[Anonymous No.6726160]

>6726145
People can see your generic overly rendered slops from a mile away tranny. If you are about to say "it will get better" then you are lower than worm clinging your worth to a piece to software. Honestly just end your pathetic life.

[Anonymous No.6726234]

>>6725443
How do we tell them that trannoids love it
It's just like them after all, all AI does is try to pass as the real thing, they're convinced it passes as the real thing, but it doesn't and never will

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[Anonymous No.6726401]

^/beg/fag bumps a dozen times.
pyw
Hell post your promptfaggotry. I bet it's still zero effort dogshit

[Anonymous No.6726408]

>>6726401
seems more likely he's trying to sage the thread into oblivion to bump lock it because the shit mods refuse to deal with AI troll threads.

[Anonymous No.6726679]

>>6726408
I just shiftclick and forget mods even exist lel

[Anonymous No.6726730]

>>6720005
What if I'm the artist and the game dev also? Like why would I spend my time doing a trial and error prompting from the generator to get the art I want and stressing about making sure the generator has accurate data in the data set in order for the output to not look like blobs, if I could just draw it? I'm pretty sure an art program is less taxing on the graphics card than a speedy AI generator.

[Anonymous No.6726738]

We'll look back and share stories about what we were doing when Stable Diffusion forever changed how humans create and view art

Wild times my dude

[Anonymous No.6726745]

>>6723859
>fairly basic gaming rig.
>meanwhile the potato PC can run Clip Studio Paint.
This is a problem with businesses using AI generator. You can't have them do any work at home unless you make it required they have a computer with the best graphics card, or else they're going to be waiting every 5 minute for an image result to be generated.

[Anonymous No.6726756]

>>6724322
You sound like someone paying Musk for a checkmark, posting a copypasta as a response.

[Anonymous No.6726761]

>>6724322
>You sound like a woman or a tranny.
Then I guess women and trannies offended by AI have more discipline or at least aren't as defensive enough to compare a human thought process to an algorithm.

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getting my AI art to pass as handmade while publicly being anti-AI is unbelievably satisfying, I can't get enough

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>>6726844
>pyw then nigga

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>>6726844
>Very nice piece, anon, well done
>Also I totally agree, fuck AI!
>Can I buy a print?
oh god I love it so much

[Anonymous No.6726871]

>>6726866
>>6726844
>t.samefag

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>>6726871
Yes, just giving a little more detail to break up the punctuation spammer.

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>>6726877
so your doing that by being a bump fagget for AI threads

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I enjoy making AI Art

[Anonymous No.6727777]

>>6727776
prove it

[Anonymous No.6727781]

>>6727777
I get too much deep satisfaction from my AI art passing as handmade, no way am I going to risk that, sorry babe (=

Here's an old example of some redraw image tho ;)

[Anonymous No.6727784]

>>6727781
>pic related
>"passing as handmade"
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>>6727781
well I guess it's finally time I finish what I started earlier

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>>6727781
redraw? the entire thing looks like untouched AI shit.

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>>6727781
you know anon I already seen this image use by multiple AIfags what exactly makes it "yours" exactly

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based dot spammer i kneel

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>>6727800
at this point it's the only solution for the "I enjoy making AI art bumper"

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>>6727806
slop

[Anonymous No.6727814]

>>6719229
lel

[Anonymous No.6727815]

>>6727809
L M A O
human made actually, thank you

God nothing in the world compares to revealing bias by providing a misleading context, posting human art in an "AI thread" or slapping the dall-e colorbar on some handmade art

Hahahahaha god yes
YES

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>>6727806
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[Anonymous No.6727817]

>>6727816
L M A O
M
A
O

You actually cannot tell the difference except inside your angry brain you think you can, I fucking love it

[Anonymous No.6727818]

>>6727815
Yeah, i have a bias towards human made art, what of it?

[FTTRH No.6727819]

>>6727806
That or image spam more images not like you going it's actually made by a person means anything when Google search exists

[Anonymous No.6727820]

>>6727817
You don't pass IRL either.

[Anonymous No.6727821]

>b-b-b-but I didn't actually think the human-made art was AI
I love the damage control, keep it coming

[FTTRH No.6727822]

>>6727817
Well going it's actually made human made a second later really is not as much as a gacha you think it is

[Anonymous No.6727823]

are u even trying my dude

[Anonymous No.6727825]

>>6727822
English please

[Anonymous No.6727826]

>>6727817
i definitely can

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>>6727821
well anon its not really paying attention to what you post in the first place. Since only here to do one thing in this thread

[Anonymous No.6727828]

>>6727826
Of course you can sweaty.
And no AI art will ever pass your 100% scrutiny.

[Anonymous No.6727829]

>>6727818
this statement buck breaks the pajeet

[FTTRH No.6727830]

>>6727825
Idc about this thread but continue on trying to debate with me

[Anonymous No.6727832]

>>6727828
you can tell at a glance if what was generated is worth a shit

[Anonymous No.6727833]

>>6727806
lmao anon didn't even put it into 512x512 to make it super obvious

and /ic/ still couldn't tell holy shit
maybe your aidar isn't as good as you think it is babe?

[Anonymous No.6727836]

>>6727818
>still no reply
BUCK STATUS: BROKEN
HAHAHAHAH

[Debater No.6727837]

>>6727833
well anon what came to do is finally done thank you on pointlessly debating with me on this thread

[Anonymous No.6727838]

>>6727809
>>6727815
samefag. no, you posting a screenshot with one you does not disprove this.

[Anonymous No.6727839]

>>6727833
It's really easy to tell. At worst, incoherent garbage like that will pass off as ai.

[Anonymous No.6727841]

What an absolutely glorious thread

/ic/, this is a little embarrassing for you, but very interesting actually.

[Anonymous No.6727842]

>falseflagging
ohnonono

[Anonymous No.6727845]

>>6727841
>>6727818
Why are pajeets so easy to mindbreak?

[Anonymous No.6727848]

>>6727845
>mistakenly identify human art as AI
>HURR DURR MINDBREAK THO
the fuck are you on about my retard?

Accept the L with grace

[Anonymous No.6727849]

>>6727848
yep xhe's mindbroken

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[Anonymous No.6727853]

>>6727848
What's your best argument against the bias? you haven't been buck broken by a simple statement, right?

[Anonymous No.6727854]

>>6727848
While I doubt anyone actually thought that was AI, mistaking human art for AI is not a win (retards exist, some art styles are nebulous)

[Anonymous No.6727855]

lol
lmao even

[Anonymous No.6727857]

ohnonono pls tell me the buck didn't just got utterly anhilated by being reassured that there's indeed a bias?

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>>6727803
nice

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>>6727858
ai slop? I... I just can't tell anymore
if this was 512x512 and had a specific kind of filename, I would be very sure of myself!

[Anonymous No.6727863]

samefagging again? no arguments? sad sight truly.

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Thanks for the interesting discussion

[Anonymous No.6727869]

>>6727855
>>6727857
Kek he did. Why won't he say something about the bias? i thought that was the pajeet's ultimate "gotcha"?

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>>6727862

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actually pathetic

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>>6727871
>signature half-erased at the top
techbros behind bars soon

[Anonymous No.6727874]

The mindbreaking of the pajeet has been a wonderful sight to see /ic/, thank you for this.

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>>6719229
this

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>>6719229
omg so much this

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>>6727878
really? that? AI janny is your fate?

[Anonymous No.6727882]

>>6727879
all it can do is mimicry, ugly simulation of real human creative work.

[Anonymous No.6728136]

>>6727858
I'm a /beg/ who started this year and in my opinion this is fucking amazing. Don't care whether it's AI or not. I think it's safe to say AI can be good at times. We should look at ways to peacefully co exist instead since both are creative expressions of the human mind. I don't get the hate. Again, just my newbie opinion on this discussion.

[Anonymous No.6728196]

>>6728136
neck yourself, tourist

[Anonymous No.6728200]

holy shit /ic/ literally can't tell if art is AI or handmade

[Anonymous No.6728308]

>>6717204
>I don't even hate AI but it looks like it SHOULD be obviously useful, but then where is it?
It's useless becuase it's not AI.
Its code is shit, its art is shit and limited, absolutely not use in game dev or artistic pursuit.
I guess you could use it for color palettes but that's it.

[Anonymous No.6728936]

>>6728136
Its not AI, you are seeing an amazing painting by John Berkey.
https://playandday.blogspot.com/2020/01/the-classic-sci-fi-art-of-john-berkey.html

[Anonymous No.6728937]

>>6728200
correction: /ic/ tourists sometimes cannot tell.

[Anonymous No.6729071]

>>6728196
why the hate? I know it's online but you don't know what the other person is going through so why not try to be respectful to your fellow artist?

[Anonymous No.6729291]

>>6728937
Hahahaha love this backtracking
Nah, I've put the dall-e color-bar on other things
And also presented other human-made work in the context of AI and gotten >hurrdurr aislop

Not to mention how my AI art has passed in beginner/draw/redraw threads.

God it literally gives me like a physical thrill to pass AI Art as handmade, in this environment especially but also on twitter/AS/elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.6729410]

>>6729291
There are tons of tourists and ironic shitposters that you can't be sure of any of your supposed passing here. The fact it gives you a thrill is a bit weird, how do you know they were sincere, on /ic/ of all places? twitter and AS are just as full of retards.
>I tricked a retard hahaha
:/

[Anonymous No.6729425]

>>6729291
Based. I will do the same from now. Tricking/ic/tards on beg and int threads sounds fun. Let these luddites seethe for AIchads haha
I FUCKING LOVE AI SO MUCH

[Anonymous No.6729451]

>>6729425
>in 3 years, /ic/ is only AI art pranksters "tricking" each other and they don't know the artists have left the building.
Based

[Anonymous No.6729493]

>>6729071
neck yourself non-artist tourist

[Anonymous No.6729494]

>>6729410
it's troon behavior

[Anonymous No.6729500]

>>6729493
no u

[Anonymous No.6729503]

>>6729493
and I am an artist so fuck off

[Anonymous No.6729509]

>>6729500
>>6729503
I'm sure you think so, now run along

[Anonymous No.6729518]

>>6729509
triggered lmao

[Anonymous No.6729521]

>>6729494
This is true. Sorry AItrannies, this board is for real artists only. Use the disableds restroom(sdg).