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Recently, I've seen the phrase "AI slop" being used not only to refer to products of generative AIs but also to certain human-illustrated works of art. For example, the works of the artist Sakimichan have often been described this way. What this means to me is that a drawing may be technically impressive but offers no intellectual stimulation to the audience. It may be the surface-level application of a concept - no deep thinking involved on the artist's part - much like an AI cannot interpret the meaning of a prompt and what story should be told outside of its rigid parameters.

I find picrel to be one such image; it's drawn exactly how I'd expect it to be drawn and nothing more. There are no elements that make my mind wander, no subtext, and nothing that makes me want to discuss it with others or pick it apart; "flat" for lack of a better term. I feel like I'd be able to prompt something very similar without much difficulty.

>> No.6715930

>>6715923
you don't draw

>> No.6715936
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>>6715923
soft shading, warm palette, detailed clothing, super realistic vibe in general, the art is amazing, but it lacks SOVL, and AI art is souless, not bad, just souless.

>> No.6715946

>>6715923
you're overthinking the fuck out of this.

>> No.6715957

>>6715923
>AI slop
It consists of some combo of the following:
>over-rendering
>over-dependence on Photoshop, bells & whistles, filters & effects
>airbrush aesthetic
>videogame aesthetic
>drawing obscured
>often looks more like CGI or 3D than drawing or painting
>genshin impact-style anime pinup
>no backgrounds on pinup, or generic backgrounds
>when background or landscape, usually "le epic videogame landscape"
>no lived in world or world-building
>no vision (unlike people like H.R. Giger, Jack Kirby, Tezuka, Miyazaki, and Otomo, pure visionaries)
>little or no storytelling
>no substance or meaning

>> No.6715960

artstation trending, aka most western industry art

>> No.6715965

>>6715946
>you're overthinking the fuck out of this.
he's not though. there's an aesthetic that AI feasts on like flies on shit. It's something worth exploring.

>> No.6715968

Kitsch.

>> No.6715973

>>6715923
AI slop is like forced soul. You'll know it when you see it.

>> No.6716010

>>6715936
Look like AI slop to be honest, look at the hands, they're so fucked up, nice try pajeet

>> No.6716023

>>6716010
down to trying to falseflag?

>> No.6716054

>>6715957
>H R Giger
>Substance or meaning.

All of his stuff was just his drug-fuelled nightmares and his alien penis fetishes.

>> No.6716061

>>6716054
>All of his stuff was just his drug-fuelled nightmares and his alien penis fetishes
>but I will still try to make cheap ripoffs of his stuff with ai and delude myself into thinking it's better

>> No.6716087

>>6715957
wow, I've been thinking about this but didn't know there was a word for this.

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6716139

>>6715923
>posts pin up art and mentions pinup artists
>"why doesnt it stimulate me, make my mind wander, why is there no subtext bros"
Type of guy to go to the strip club trying to find meaning
anyways this is another from that same artist. Stop cherry picking shit
>>6715946 this anon is right

>> No.6716161

>>6716054
And that makes it soulful.

>> No.6716165

>>6716010
>nice try pajeet
>doesn't know about Leyendecker's art
zoomer-sama, I...

>> No.6716196

>>6715923
being generated by current AIs, that's about it.
Whether it looks good or believable doesn't matter, it's still the work of the antichrist, and as such it must be rejected firmly.

>> No.6716253

>>6716054
>All of his stuff was just his drug-fuelled nightmares and his alien penis fetishes.
thats soul anon

>> No.6716605

Digital

>> No.6716624

>>6715936
>>6716054
all the anons shitting on SOVL are just mad they don't know what it is and don't have it. it's so obvious

>> No.6716663

>>6715923
AI Slop = Made by AI.

>> No.6717034

>>6716010
True. Linedecker's "style" is ugly as hell.

>> No.6717048
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6717048

>>6715936
Despite the composition being off, this has more soul than anything on here. I don't even care someone didn't get the right LoRA for hands. It's just cool to have people using an ideas generator that you you can use for reference even if it's just for a single element in the image.

>> No.6717050

>>6715923
Prompting masterpiece

>> No.6717061
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>>6717034
>True. Linedecker's "style" is ugly as hell.
Wow, I pity the soul who can look at Leyendecker's work and call it ugly. At least two generations prepped by video games and Marvel movies to not recognize soul & craft—perfect subjects for the AIpocalypse.

>> No.6717063

>>6717048
get some new style lora combos. your posts still have the generic orangemix look to them

>> No.6717067

>>6715923
nice sexo outfit

>> No.6717080

>>6715957
>Jack Kirby
Fucking eye rape. Even monochrome can't save his characters from being ugly. American comic book art has always aesthetically traumatizing.
>well anon it left and impression on you that's just the yin of art
>little or no storytelling
A general problem of the times. Agreed though it cannot provide substance or meaning or story. With AI, individuals will be able to free up time and the hassle of outsourcing or division of labour management to focus on telling stories instead of making one that can be interpreted from a single drawing (which has a need to come about if you're actually trying to tell a story in the first place.)

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>> No.6717085
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6717085

>>6715923
You've seen one of them, you have seen ALL of them. >>6717048 is an really good example of this. At least with an actual human artist, you can elevate your liking of the artwork by appreciating the artist's autismos

>> No.6717093

>>6717080
>Fucking eye rape. Even monochrome can't save his characters from being ugly. American comic book art has always aesthetically traumatizing.

terminally /ic/brained take

>this guy that pioneered american comics in its golden age? he's a hack lmao

>> No.6717125

>>6717067
>sexo
this is an 18+ website sir

>> No.6717128

>>6717093
it really is insane isnt it? Once you realize that its a 17 year old who knows everything about the world and has all the right opinions, posts like this make a lot more sense.

>> No.6717176

>>6717061
"Ha! This girl wants me so bad she cant even tell I painted my own hair on with body paint. She even said we should go skinny dipping later. I'm so getting laid tonight."

>> No.6717183

>>6717048
>another retard thinks "sunset = soul"

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6717184

>>6717093
>>6717128
Aged like milk. Even that skeleton manwha dropped it. The legacy of capeshit is drowned out by moe and rightfully so.

>> No.6717186

>>6717093
>this guy that pioneered american comics in its golden age? he's a hack lmao
This doesn't say as much as you think it does.You should be able to separate the artist from the art when you're critiquing their art.

>> No.6717187

>>6717176
>this man wants me so bad he doesn't notice that I have little holes right through my body. My cast shadow will give it away, I hope he keeps his eyes on the black void.

>> No.6717188

>>6717186
Bro, he pioneered it with his art, this is like saying say what steve jobs did to revolutionize the world without mentioning apple or personal computers

>> No.6717191

>>6717188
>Bro, he pioneered it with his art
It's irrelevant. Anon is making the implication that American comic books are peak art and immune to criticism with that statement.
And yes, Steve Jobs celebrity worship is also wrong. The tech giants were known for monopolizing the industry and are the cause for stunting healthy competitive growth for decades.

>> No.6717194
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6717194

hyper rendered is usually a huge tip off that its a.i among other things.

>> No.6717196

>>6717183
>he never into FFX atmosphere
You wouldn't get it. Even your assumption was subbeg. I think you guys are like Tarantino fanboys with same basic bitch starter pack. You "like" because you're told it's good and that you should like it for reasons you need to be taught. Like this nigger
>this guy that pioneered american comics in its golden age? he's a hack lmao
All about status and namedropping. This is what happens when art turns into a social media contest.

>> No.6717198

>>6717194
hilarious nipples ngl

>> No.6717316

>>6717196
>You "like" because you're told it's good
>posts anime slop
interdasting

>> No.6717334

>>6717196
What you posted has no soul and you should kill yourself NOW!

>> No.6717340

>>6717048
That’s the most soulless anime face I’ve ever seen.

>> No.6717353

>>6717082
Love this one. Source?

>> No.6717432

>>6717048
I've seen ai porn art with more SOVL than your shitty picrel

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6717537

>>6717334
>>6717340
>>6717432
If you could into soul, you would feel the wind on your chitin-based exoskeletons.

>> No.6717555

>>6717353
/sdg/ kek

>> No.6717670

>>6717537
aini/g/ger mad
>>6717353
>>6717555
aini/g/ger samefags because no one commented on his overly-busy slop

>> No.6717672

>>6715923
AI is just a filter over a real artists piece, sometimes a few real art pieces stitched together and blurred over. It's all slop. If you fall in love with an AI piece ever, demand to know the artist tags they used in the generator. You're falling in love with their art, not the melty, blurry filter.

>> No.6717709

>>6717082
these weird ass lines and dents on everything make it uncanny as fuck, try again ainigger

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6717999

>>6717670
cope

>> No.6718048

>>6717999
inspect element sisters we won

>> No.6718058
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6718058

Is this slop? I like AI pictures that still have that weird schizo quality of old AI generations

>> No.6718062

>>6717082
What the fuck is this AI bullshit doing in a soul thread? Why is there a same face going on? Why is the girl wearing two right feet? What was the point of having someone in the far corner of the "store" that has no purpose but to distract from the centerpoint of the image? The fuck is wrong with the car?

>> No.6718064

>>6718062
you have to look at it from the POV of a consoomer
look at it for less than a second
look at the pretty colors and all the random shit on the screen
don't look at the details
omg anime girl

>> No.6718067

>>6718062
yeah. this belongs in /beg/.

>> No.6718072

>>6718062
And why is there a mini version of the girl on the shop wall with green hair and bleeding eyes?

>> No.6718074
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6718074

>>6718058
also is this more or less slop? I'm trying to figure out if AI art influenced by earlier versions of the AI is more appealing than the new stuff

>> No.6718077

>>6718072
That's what I meant by same face syndrome, lol. It's all so surreal - like a happy vibrant version of Silent Hill.

>> No.6718079

>>6718062
Nothing a drone from a korean art farm can't fix.

>> No.6718160

>>6718079
By that logic you might as well just do the drawing yourself and control every aspect of it from the word go. It's not enough that the AI generation isn't even made by your hand manually drawing everything, now you have to correct it too?

>> No.6718176

>>6718058
>>6718074
>no anime=SOVL
so yes, soul

>> No.6718179

>>6718160
>By that logic you might as well just do the drawing yourself and control every aspect of it from the word go
If you have access to cheap art farm labor, you aren't interested in drawing every piece yourself. By nature, art farms are already exploited, and AI just provides corpo with another layer of exploitation.

>> No.6718604
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6718604

>>6717194
>>6717082
>>6717048
Absolute SOUL, with a bit of touch up in photoshop you could sell them at a high price. I'm amazed on how AI is capable of replicating human art, and making it look even better that what humans create. The fact that people are throwing a tantrum over technical advancements is pitiful, we could be reaching for the stars with this kind of technology, instead we suppress it to not hurt the wittle poow artists. It's like how space advancement was thwarted in order to feed hungry niggers, when we should've just left them to starve and built bases on the moon. We have to prevent this from happening at all costs.

>> No.6718645

>>6718604
>Absolute SOUL
lol you don't know the meaning of the word.

>> No.6718651

>>6718645
And you do? Pfff, I'm sure your abstract art with circles and squares is soulful, I pity you.

>> No.6718675

>>6717537
Sorry I’m white

>> No.6718677

>>6718645
true. ai art is just forced soul.

>> No.6718704

>>6717048
I thought this was human drawn for a sec and was going to say that thing does not have soul. If you think that thing has soul, seek god

>> No.6718705

/ic/ says art is about telling a story but is so hung up on the deontological ethics of art that it wants to bottleneck the story telling process. You guys are kind of just purity spiraling faggots about this. It's like bitch and that someone developed a story game in rpg maker.

>> No.6718708

>>6717082
Car is sus.

>> No.6718841

>>6718604
3/10 made me reply

>> No.6718896

>>6717082
nothing here makes sense once you actually pay attention, the hands have weird fingers, there are too many weird anime faces, why is there ice cream in her basket and there's a weird red thin n her hair, and the car structure is so stupid

>> No.6718931

>>6718705
>You guys are kind of just purity spiraling faggots about this
pretty much. fascists love this kind of approach to art (ie being a little bitch about it)

>> No.6718934

>>6718705
he's back

>> No.6718939

>>6718705
>It's like bitch and that someone developed a story game in rpg maker.
you bloody fuck you bloody bastard bitch

>> No.6718965

>>6718939
>you bloody fuck you bloody bastard bitch
Lashing out towards a whole group of people because he sucks at art... mhmmm that sounds familiar. This is why you are still a virgin, you will never know what it feels like to touch a woman. Go back to pol inkcel

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6719084

>>6718965
do not project sir

>> No.6719120

I will do the needful

>> No.6719128

>>6717082
the details are weird, but man, the color palette is amazing, and the cute vibe is perfect

>> No.6719129

>>6719128
>watch me totally not bump every AI-adjacent thread

>> No.6719141

>>6719129
stop being a schizo, idiot

>> No.6719152

>>6719141
>noooo don't notice me

>> No.6719169

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>> No.6719327

I love how AI has absolutely ass-blasted /ic/ and the art world to the point they are self-cannibalizing themselves like this.

>> No.6719336

>>6717555
Obviously. I still would like to know who generated it so I can probably find similar art

>> No.6719348

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>> No.6719369

>>6719327
It always happens when your opinions are based on emotions instead of logic.

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