/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.6708438]

How do you do digital brushwork that looks milky and sculptural? Sinix does it a lot and I know he uses that weird Painter brush for it, but how do you accomplish the same thing with a typical round brush in other programs? I don't want to be dependent on weird brushes and programs, I want to understand what he's actually doing to get that milky look

[Anonymous No.6708456]

>>6708438
probably hard round with opacity to pen pressure

[Anonymous No.6708474]

>>6708438
this is why 'hard round brush' is such an effective gatekeeping crab move
every single pro artist all have their own dedicated stable of custom modified brushes that they're not sharing...or do for a high price.
that's all digital art is - custom brushes.
why waste time making it manually when a single swipe with a special brush does it? likewise, why tell others of this, when letting them struggle, then give up, with the basic bitch default brush, removes potential competitors?
no pro is moronic enough to just give their secret, like how pepsi never gave away their recipe.

[Anonymous No.6708483]

>>6708474
There is no secret. Plenty of pros stream their entire process. Plenty of them use hard round brush.

[Anonymous No.6708523]

>>6708456
Literally impossible, there’s feathering on the brush strokes on this, unless they’re a psychotic masochist they aren’t using just the hard round. They’re likely not using it at all but if they scare its in conjunction with mixer/blending brushes. Looking at the way things are blending here makes me think a hard round opacity isn’t being used at all because there isn’t the sort of layering it gives.

[Anonymous No.6708524]

>>6708523
Prob has low flow too.

[Anonymous No.6708525]

>>6708438
I can't tell you his thought process or how he decides where to put colors, but using a blocky, hard square brush and then just smudging/blending parts while maintaining some hard edges is pretty key to that style.

I tried to copy it, but noticed afterwards that in Sinix's pic it was more abstract or ... like impressionistic. It has a dreamy effect where details pop out of nowhere and other things blur together. My "study" originally had too much detail so I went back and took some of it out. Mine was just color picked and painted over the original pic, but I think I have a better understanding of what he did. There's a lot of play involved with that pic you posted, OP.

[Anonymous No.6708528]

>>6708524
*And appears to be using a mixer brush and smudge tool

[Anonymous No.6708545]

>>6708483
This. It's hard to accept but it's just true. Yes, some pros are using fancy brushes but they know how they work and can modify their settings according to what they need. Craig Mullins used to paint with a mouse for Christ's sake.

[Anonymous No.6708548]

>>6708525
The painting has some problems but that's some pretty great brush work.

[Anonymous No.6708557]

please can someone explain flow and opacity nothing i read makes sense

[Anonymous No.6708567]

>>6708523
>feathering on brush strokes
it isnt applied across everywhere so its more than likely smudge with spacing applied

>layering
are you talking about the wash look when you have low opacity? he could be making new layers and then sculpting out shapes

why dont you experiment, youll learn more that way

[Anonymous No.6708574]

>>6708438
>Sinix does it a lot and I know he uses that weird Painter brush for it, but how do you accomplish the same thing with a typical round brush in other programs?
Every art software has a mixer brush.

[Anonymous No.6708604]

>>6708557
Fuck around find out. Use only opacity and paint some strokes, see how they blend together. Then do the same using only flow.
Afaik opacity works more like wet paint, I don't use flow at all since it makes it harder to blend.

[Anonymous No.6708622]

>>6708557
>>6690154

[Anonymous No.6708624]

>>6708438
You could ask the guy? He has a discord and he's active enough on twitter.

If someone wants a brush like his for CSP, I remember seeing this video a while back. Some tips in the comments improve the brush further to get the same effect:
https://youtu.be/9SE5fReLPoo
For Procreate, he's shared his brushset before for free:
https://youtu.be/aGPnN0Yoldw

[Anonymous No.6708627]

>>6708557
opacity is how see through the brush stroke is, with max pen pressure, you will only ever reach what you set opacity to. Flow is how quick you reach that opacity, low flow let's you build up more smoothly and slowly like an airbrush, high flow it will build up to max fast, like paint. The stamp the brush is made from will appear more feathered and ghostly at low flow, and the opposite at high flow.

[Anonymous No.6708630]

>>6708604
Refrain from giving advice.

[Anonymous No.6708650]

>>6708630
>Fuck around find out.
>afaik
Dangerous, I know.

[Anonymous No.6708673]

>>6708474
>>6708523
I don’t even know what you mean by milky look. He uses the dry brush to blend and airbrush to glaze mainly, and has done tons of VSB videos where he paints from start to finish. The paintings look good because he knows color theory, design and where to put hard and soft edges.

It’s pretty easy to learn brush engines and create your own, or download the millions of free and pirated sets and find out which ones you like. I don’t think the brushes are the problem, I think painting skills are.

[Anonymous No.6708679]

>>6708624
Where is teh discord

[Anonymous No.6708684]

>>6708483
No. Pros use custom brushes from scratch. Not same anon and not saying hard round brush is a trash brush, but the final product usually looks stiff and barebones if you drawn them fully by a single hard round brush. Always go for custom, textured brush. Even traditional artists use many types of brushes and materials and any faggots who told you to use hard round brush only are gatekeepers.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=d3bjxypDD2w&pp=ygUPaHVhbmcgZ3VhbmdqaWFu

[Anonymous No.6708685]

>>6708673
so basically he's just talented.
life sure is easy when you're simply just good at it, without having to put any effort into actually learning it.
no wonder he never made anything noteworthy or memorable. nothing left behind other than some youtube tuts. no pain no gain.

[Anonymous No.6708687]

>>6708650
You literally don’t understand the basic concepts. Just stop talking and stick to /beg/

[Anonymous No.6708691]

>>6708684
>No
Excuse me? Ready to shift the goalposts?

[Anonymous No.6708696]

>>6708687
No, I'm here to learn and so is other people. Tell me what's wrong about what I said so others can stay away from misinformation too.

[Anonymous No.6708705]

>>6708696
Fucking retard

[Anonymous No.6708707]

>>6708705
What's wrong? Talked out of your ass?

[Anonymous No.6708711]

>>6708705
I think he was trying ol Cunninghams law...
>Cunningham's Law states "the best way to get the right answer on the internet is not to ask a question; it's to post the wrong answer."

Please don't do Cunningham on ic.

[Anonymous No.6708719]

>>6708685
Are you the OP? This is genuinely fucking dumb, he learned to paint the way everybody else did it. There was nothing special about the guy other than continued effort. The shit he learned is the shit he teaches.

There’s no talent in operating a brush engine. You want a square brush? Change the stamp shape. You want a block in brush? Turn off opacity and size jitters and sculpt with an eraser of the same shape. You want his dry brush? Either fuck around with the dilution settings or torrent Painter. It takes less than an hour to learn all the brush settings.

[Anonymous No.6708722]

>>6708711
What's wrong with asking to elaborate? Especially if the topic is "literally basic concepts", I have no problems admitting I was wrong about something.

[Anonymous No.6708732]

>>6708722
/beg/
go there

[Anonymous No.6708743]

>>6708722
Did you mean to quote me? I was referring to your first post about opacity being like wet paint and flow making it hard to blend. How were you blending? Do you use the eyedropper at all while doing so?

[Anonymous No.6708747]

>>6708722
ctrl+p is in the sticky, apply yourself

[Anonymous No.6708754]

>>6708722
Lemme ruin the other guy’s fun.
https://youtu.be/o79RWJfmcZw

[Anonymous No.6708761]

>>6708743
Top is opacity jitter, bottom is flow jitter, same pressure curve. Using Clip Studio Paint, which named it Density instead of Flow but according to CSP support it's the same thing as Flow. Maybe Photoshop works differently

[Anonymous No.6708762]

>>6708525
>>6708438
Use Photoshop smudge tool with rotation and scattering enabled with a chalky/painterly brush. Use "Dual brush" with a chalky brush when using a regular brush. Congrats. You know how the effect is achievable. Warning to the untalented and why no one tells you this: any work you try to create will end up looking like a polished turd faster than you can manage to do it manually.

>>6708474
>this is why 'hard round brush' is such an effective gatekeeping crab move
Pick up a piece of paper and pencil sometime, Debbie Downer.

[Anonymous No.6708764]

>>6708754
>Technically I don't know what flow is doing
Fuck.

This seems right tho, I'd still like a technical, more underthehood understanding >>6708622

[Anonymous No.6708765]

>>6708761
Turn down flow in Photoshop is a simple slider above the canvas. I don't know csp.

[Anonymous No.6708769]

>>6708765
That would make it impossible to reach full black in a single stroke though, which is why I said it makes it harder to blend. Is this the bullshit I got called for? I just want to know why I'm getting gang raped by ic

[Anonymous No.6708770]

>>6708764
there is no more technical understanding, the post explains the mechanical function of flow and opacity, if you don’t get it, you might genuinely be stupid

[Anonymous No.6708775]

>>6708770
"Under the hood". I tinkered with glsl stuff ages ago so would be curious what Photoshop does.
(The "fuck" was a joke)

[Anonymous No.6708777]

>>6708775
you’re not gonna make it

[Anonymous No.6708785]

>>6708691
This is exactly the type of looks your art should never have. Jeez, souless.

[Anonymous No.6708787]

>>6708762
Lmao, there are literally bunch of pencil types. If you are tricking that newbie anon into hardround brush meme, then that is not an appropriate behavior.

[Anonymous No.6708788]

Dear BEGs, don't fall for Hard Round Brush gatekeeping.

[Anonymous No.6708790]

>>6708691
>>Excuse me? Ready to shift the goalposts?

Yes

[Anonymous No.6708793]

>>6708777
I'm climbing out of the bucket, keep your filthy claws away from me.

[Anonymous No.6708794]

>>6708787
>Lmao, there are literally bunch of pencil types.
>If you are tricking that newbie anon into hardround brush
>didn't even recommend a hard round brush, did the exact opposite
Sorry you're butthurt and can't use a pencil, which is just a hard round brush (literally quantified in hardness/softness).

[Anonymous No.6708796]

>>6708790
What did you mean by this? I said there are pros who use hard round, posted a professional work in a published product. You said "no". you are quite simply wrong.

[Anonymous No.6708797]

>>6708793
You will make it before he does, don't worry. He's too busy calling people retards on this board to actually draw and paint.

[Anonymous No.6708801]

>>6708796
*Given the pic rel, maybe you were bolstering my position. Good pic. I do prefer Arne overall, but he doesn't do finished illustration these days.

[Anonymous No.6708802]

>>6708797
try again

[Anonymous No.6708804]

what exactly is being done to create the sculpted look? is it like put down a hard stroke, smudge it around randomly, and then put a hard stroke ontop of the smudged thing at the points where the planes change more abruptly and keep it smudged at rounder forms?

[Anonymous No.6708805]

>>6708796
>>posted a professional work in a published product.

Anon, published product can look like shit, which that cover art look like. Just because a few garbage chibi artist do it, does not mean it is a way to go. Would you draw horrid tranny Tumblr artstyle because there are some pros do it? And no, using custom brush won't make your painting to be "polishing a turd". If you are good, them custom brushes make your work better. If you suck, you suck regardless. Do you actually believe every artists use a single hard brush for their work? No, that's what they want you to believe, they don't train you to be a superb drawfag for free online.

[Anonymous No.6708808]

>>6708802
Is that where you wiped off your cum? Wtf

[Anonymous No.6708809]

>>6708802
I sure hope this is a joke

[Anonymous No.6708811]

>>6708809
I'm laughing either way

[Anonymous No.6708815]

>>6708802
Are you also this guy? >>6708687

[Anonymous No.6708817]

>>6708805
You are bringing a lot of shit up. Quote me where I made any claim other than there are pros who use hard round. You can't, because it did not make any further claims. You've got some baggage dude.

Btw Arne is really good, you should look him up maybe you will be inspired. Androidarts

[Anonymous No.6708819]

>>6708808
>wiped
not how it works

[Anonymous No.6708824]

>>6708817
>>Arne is good

Yeah no, i would rather drawing boxes than being obsessed with default round brush. Custom brushes exist because they serve purposes, anon. Just because you can walk with your legs, does not mean you shouldn't use a bike.

[Anonymous No.6708829]

>>6708819
I don't want to know what your room look like...

[Anonymous No.6708832]

>>6708824
Again with the baggage. I use custom brushes too. Use what you want. Again, I made no claims about hard brush being superior or anything.

[Anonymous No.6708833]

>>6708829
it smells like you’re mom’s pussy

[Anonymous No.6708837]

>>6708833
I really, really hope you're not the "go back to /beg/ guy"

[Anonymous No.6708841]

>>6708837
pyw :^3

[Anonymous No.6708843]

>>6708832
>>Studying Layendecker

Lmao, he died before world war 2 even arrived and used shitload of brush types for his art. You are doing a disservice to the man.

[Anonymous No.6708846]

>>6708841
It looks like shit, and I got rightly told that I'm beg with painting, but you're an asshole for shitting on me without explaining why.

[Anonymous No.6708847]

>>6708843
You've built a strawman and wont back down. Do I really have to repeat myself?
>You are doing a disservice to the man.
why do you think that?

[Anonymous No.6708848]

>>6708846
Nice Ass

[Anonymous No.6708849]

>>6708832
>>I use custom brushes too

Ah yes, the usual routine of drawfags telling people to not do A, while they themselves are doing A.

[Anonymous No.6708851]

>>6708847
You literally spent time convincing an anon above to use default hardbrush when he was saying hardbrush is a powermove gatekeeping. LE UNIVERSAL DEFAULT BRUSH is a cuckery and anyone fell for it are cuckolds.

[Anonymous No.6708860]

>>6708851
Um, I didn't though.
Quote the post where I spent time convincing anon to use the default hardbrush. I genuinely don't know what you are talking about

And to leyendecker, are you equating digital art and photography? that is retarded. digital art was not around so we will never know his stance on it.

[Anonymous No.6708861]

>>6708846
>digital
lmao
digital is piss easy

[Anonymous No.6708862]

>>6708849
>telling people to not do A
quote me.

[Anonymous No.6708870]

>>6708861
Now we're talking, at least I got shit on by someone that knows what they're doing. Still an asshole for telling that guy that he's not going to make it though, you really have no right.

[Anonymous No.6708872]

>>6708870
bruh, I’m shitposting with years old garbage, you’re taking this way too seriously

[Anonymous No.6708877]

>>6708872
I painted that figure in January, wanna see which one of us made more progress since then?

[Anonymous No.6708879]

>>6708877
actual /beg/ moment

[Anonymous No.6708882]

>>6708879
Just trying to make this place more interesting for once. Let's pick a photo ref.

[Anonymous No.6708885]

Does this look right? I'm trying a square brush + square smudge brush

[Anonymous No.6708889]

>>6708882
refer to >>6708872
I’m not going to engage in a pissing match with a begtard lmao

[Anonymous No.6708890]

>>6708889
Why not? Forgot how to paint? I thought we were on an image critique board where people have to study to become better, why not use it as an excuse to humiliate a beg with your superior skills?

[Anonymous No.6708891]

>>6708885
I think the spacing on the smudge is way too tight, giving it that snotty too smooth artificial feel

[Anonymous No.6708895]

>>6708890
because
>you’re taking this way too seriously
I don’t care about humiliating you, I was just shitposting
you’re seething like a retard over floating animu loomis heads

[Anonymous No.6708897]

>>6708895
Why do you have to be so boring? I thought an artist like you would jump at any excuse to paint something, I wanted to give you one.

[Anonymous No.6708901]

>>6708897
just stop, this is embarrassing

[Anonymous No.6708907]

>>6708438
Jesus, what happened in here? OP, Sinix answers the question in the Procreate video here >>6708624
>"It's a cheap knockoff of the Corel Dry Brush. It stores a short amount of paint with each stroke and turns itself into a blending brush until you pick it back up off the screen to reload it."
So make a flat brush that picks up very little paint at the ends by messing with the amount of paint and density of paint and have it fade too. That way you don't have to use a separate blending tool to go over your marks afterwards. Then pick up a tutorial about hard and soft edges in painting to learn the technique he's using.

[Anonymous No.6708908]

>>6708907
>Jesus, what happened in here?
some anons forgot to take their meds again.

[Anonymous No.6708911]

>>6708901
Whatever, I'll paint something else I guess.

[Anonymous No.6708961]

>>6708860
he’s clearly pointing out leyendecker was a gatekeeper who kept his secrets and doesn’t fit into the narrative that basic tools are how artists paint

[Anonymous No.6708989]

>>6708961
my eyes skipped did over 'secret'.
>doesn’t fit into the narrative that basic tools are how artists paint
which is not a narrative I was reinforcing.

[Anonymous No.6708994]

>>6708989
Lenedecker was open about his methods anyway.
http://gurneyjourney.blogspot.com/2010/09/leyendeckers-method.html
"secret" painting medium? that's just someone trying to add flair to their writing.

[Anonymous No.6709009]

>>6708994
>>Lenedecker was open about his methods anyway.

Anon, that "open" about his method was 1 year before he fucking died. That's one hell of a gatekeeping, imagine you only open up about your painting method and secrets when you about the shit the bed.

[Anonymous No.6709010]

>>6708994
you’re actually retarded and never painted in your life if you think that is being open about your method, it’s a pr word salad
medium recipes were always a closely guarded secret
for example, rothko’s work was amazing because of what he did paint-wise, it was clueless normalfags that saw it and thought it was about squares of paint

[Anonymous No.6709015]

>>6709010
>>it was clueless normalfags that saw it and thought it was about squares of paint

This is exactly the problem with every study artwork. They never knew what the original artwork really drawn with, at best they could just study the shadow and light values, but not the secret behind the painting.

[Anonymous No.6709016]

>>6709010
I don't know what I don't know. Leyendecker seemed open enough to me, I've seen others replicate his work fine traditionally, some "secret" huh?.

[Anonymous No.6709017]

>>6708994
That is literally 2 sentences that just describe the most basic procedure of painting in oil, it’s the equivalent of describing the Reilly head as “draw overlapping ovals corresponding to skull landmarks so you know where to draw the features”

[Anonymous No.6709019]

>>6709016
>>Leyendecker seemed open enough to me

It was a letter he personally sent to his student. He actually died in 1951, a year after that. He kept his methods, brushes and materials in secret entire life. Because he was big and made millions.

[Anonymous No.6709023]

>>6709015
>the secret behind the painting.
You think the secret is in the way the paint flows? what the actual fuck? leyendecker could make a masterpiece from mud if he had to. it's not the tools.

[Anonymous No.6709025]

>>6709023
retard

[Anonymous No.6709027]

>>6709019
Ok, it seems weird to me. His technique was so so much more about his shapes than his medium, I don't see why it would matter if people knew it was 10mls of linseed oil and 3mls of turpentine.

[Anonymous No.6709028]

>>6709025
explain.

[Anonymous No.6709030]

>>6709028
pick up a brush for once in your life, retard

[Anonymous No.6709032]

>>6709023
>>leyendecker could make a masterpiece from mud if he had to. it's not the tools.

LMAO. His pencil drawings are extremely pale in comparison to his more expensive and well crafted illustrations. You must be extremely dellusional to think you can go anywhere if you believe in that universal hard brush hoax like an anime character believes in friendship.

[Anonymous No.6709036]

>>6709027
>>I don't see why it would matter if people knew it was 10mls of linseed oil and 3mls of turpentine.

It is not just the fundamental skills. At a certain point, you will need to depict the textures, too. Look at this horse he drawn and you try to replicate that texture with default hardbrush with no textures. That's what everyone were trying to say here. There are things you need alternate brushes and materials for.

[Anonymous No.6709038]

>>6709032
I believe the hard brush hoax? where is this coming from?

>His pencil drawings are extremely pale in comparison
you underestimate him. You don't think he could reproduce the values and shapes of his paintings in pencil?

[Anonymous No.6709043]

>>6709038
>>You don't think he could reproduce the values and shapes of his paintings in pencil?

You already saw his fundamental skills and shadow/light values in that pencil drawing. And it just doesn't look the same with his fancy stuff. Understand now? No tool is universal, if you believe in such magic, you need a reality check.

[Anonymous No.6709044]

>>6709036
You are still attacking a strawman. Who said anything about making that style of work with a hard brush?

[Anonymous No.6709047]

>>6709043
You need to stop and think. what is preventing him from doing what I suggested? Who said it would be the same? I said masterpiece with mud, not that this masterpiece would be as pretty as his full color work.

[Anonymous No.6709048]

>>6709044
What i'm saying is, this guy is right. Default hard brush is such a hoax, i call everyone as faggot for pushing that hoax.

[Anonymous No.6709049]

holy cope

[Anonymous No.6709051]

>>6709048
>every single artist
>no pro is moronic enough to give their secret
Oh he's right is he?

[Anonymous No.6709053]

>>6709028
Stop wasting your time with people calling you a retard, they are incapable of accepting they might be wrong about anything because the price they'd have to pay is to consider themselves retarded. Talking with your cat would be more productive.

[Anonymous No.6709056]

>>6709051
Absolutely. Pros either teach you 20% of what they know then sell their true secrets in overpriced packs on Gumroad or Patreon. Or they never tell you anything and you see them as holy figures. Breeding compettitors is the last thing they want to happen.

[Anonymous No.6709062]

>>6709048
>i call everyone as faggot for pushing that hoax.
Ancientfag here. No one had a fucking problem up until after the Tumblr fallout rejects were forced to post their shit to twitter. It was such a non-problem that it turned into the meme you refer to right now. It was never for "finalizing", it was for learning how to control your values and linework by training with a hard round brush. It's the same recommendation such as Peter Han and his concept/pen line training.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaif0PpNMas

I'm also going to refer to another meme here and say "nobody cares". As in nobody cares if a digital drawing is hand drawn, hence speeding up the process using brushes. That being said, if you can't even use the closest thing to a pencil or a fucking pen on paper on a digital medium, you're shit. Nobody is going to care, even harder because you're a shape geomancer and it will always show in your work. Stick to graphic design/vector shit.

[Anonymous No.6709065]

>>6709032
>tfw all painters are bad at sketching and lineart
it's over for me

[Anonymous No.6709067]

>>6709056
You really think there is a special secret to the pro work huh? It's like you have to believe this to explain why there is such a gap between them and you.
What would happen once you go pro?(provided that's a goal for you).
Would going pro require you to develop a secret killer technique? are you gonna paywall it?

[Anonymous No.6709072]

>>6709062
>>was for learning how to control your values and linework by training with a hard round brush.

This is such a buzz word, anon. Brushes have nothing to do with practices or controling your values. Values depend on which color you chose to depict the light and shadow. You can do the same with any custom brushes, not just default hard brush.

Tumblr rejects actually mainly use default hardbrush in their dogshit drawings.

[Anonymous No.6709074]

>>6709053
you never touched a tube of paint

[Anonymous No.6709075]

>>6709067
>>Would going pro require you to develop a secret killer technique? are you gonna paywall it?

Unironically what everyone gonna do once they go pro. Gotta feed on those fools.

[Anonymous No.6709080]

>>6709072
>This is such a buzz word, anon
You're quoting a sentence, numbnuts.

>Values depend on which color you chose to depict the light and shadow.
And when you use a soft edge brush you can't do that. It's only a solid value at the center of the brush, it gets muddied on the edge. It's less noticeable in black and white, but in color weird shit happens. Again it's a basic first steps to digital.

>Tumblr rejects actually mainly use default hardbrush in their dogshit drawings.
That's not how they apply the blush in the noses and cheeks.

[Anonymous No.6709081]

>>6709075
My secret technique will be painting good shapes and values. which I don't even know how to paywall...
>enjoying this picture? feels incomplete? unlock the shapes on the left arm for 3 easy payments of $9.99!

[Anonymous No.6709084]

>>6709067
>>He doesn't know

Pros paywall 20% of what they know and all of pros have secrets.

[Anonymous No.6709086]

>>6709075
>Unironically what everyone gonna do once they go pro
Are the only pros you know coomer/patreon types?
what of the artists working in-house?

[Anonymous No.6709088]

>>6709084
When do these secrets develop? who do they learn them from? is there a cross over period when their work goes from high int to pro, involving a secret painting method my doctor doesn't want me to know?

[Anonymous No.6709089]

>>6709084
u cant fork over 60 bucks?

[Anonymous No.6709095]

>>6709084
>Pros paywall 20% of what they know and all of pros have secrets.

Artists only become known as "pro" after they die and even they got free lessons from dead artists before them.

[Anonymous No.6709098]

>>6709089
or even $5 for a 14 hour video. Or watch a better artist do it for free on youtube. I'm sure once you watch the video, your skills will be boosted from the secret knowledge you just got!
>watches the vid, its just a guy painting with hard brush 99% of the time, no tricks... shit!

[Anonymous No.6709100]

How are you guys still going?

[Anonymous No.6709104]

>>6709098
>> its just a guy painting with hard brush 99% of the time, no tricks... shit!

[Anonymous No.6709110]

>>6709104
I was referring to my pic rel, not yours.(it's from an old tutorial video)
Still, what was the secret trick in this vid you have here?

[Anonymous No.6709117]

>>6709110
The nigga literally selling his secret setting and custom brushes, and this is just a single artwork. He has different shits on different artworks.
Do you really believe these guys are saints and willing to giveaway everything they know?

[Anonymous No.6709120]

>>6709080
>>And when you use a soft edge brush you can't do that. It's only a solid value at the center of the brush, it gets muddied on the edge. It's less noticeable in black and white, but in color weird shit happens. Again it's a basic first steps to digital.

I'm just a shitty BEG but who the fuck taught you that?! Values is how you depict light and shadow on object, not what kind of special settings you give to your universal magic default brush.

[Anonymous No.6709124]

>>6709117
But whats the secret trick? You have the vid, reveal the sneaky artist trick!

>Do you really believe these guys are saints and willing to giveaway everything they know?
some are, sure, time willing(what does it mean to give everything you know?)
Sinix has over 200 videos you can watch for free

[Anonymous No.6709127]

>>6709110
Yeah but Marat Ars's worst sketch looks better than that disgusting tranny art, so we all agree that magical hard brush is a hoax.

[Anonymous No.6709130]

>>6709127
>disgusting tranny art
What do you mean by this?

[Anonymous No.6709134]

>>6709124
And where have you gone with those 200 free videos? Are you a superb megacorpo artist yet? Or you are still a BEG or an indiegame artist with no payment?

>>reveal the sneaky artist trick!

Replicate my hexagons with you default hard brush. Now you get the message.

[Anonymous No.6709142]

>>6709134
I think you've gone off the deep end mate. Why do you think Marat Ars is better than sinix for learning? what does this have to do with hard round brush? You are so hung up on brushes. they are not secret techniques.

I didn't learn from sinix, but game recognizes game.

[Anonymous No.6709224]

>>6709142
>>You are so hung up on brushes. they are not secret techniques.

If you don't learn how to use different kind of brush and how to apply textures, you will stuck in mediocrity. Fundamental understandings are not secret, but custom product and custom settings are. You also admitted you use texture brush above, so everything you saying now is invalid, because you didn't live up to what you said.

>>I didn't learn from sinix, but game recognizes game.

Both of your videogame coverart and artwork example look average from an audience perspective. They obviously showing weakness and limitation of the brush instead of showing how good it can be.

[Anonymous No.6709226]

>>6709224
SSSSLUUURRRRRPPPPPPP!!

[Anonymous No.6709227]

>>6709224
>You also admitted you use texture brush above, so everything you saying now is invalid, because you didn't live up to what you said.
YO WHAT BRUSH IS DAT?!

[Anonymous No.6709298]

>>6708788
I think people get the wrong idea when they hear "hard round brush," thinking that the settings should never be played with.
>rounds #2
Hard round brush with size pressure sensitivity turned on.
>rounds #3
Same as #2, just with a larger maximum size.
>filberts #2, #6
Hard round brush with size pressure sensitivity turned on, minimum size of 20~50% because the brush does not come to a point.
>flat #5
Hard round brush with size pressure sensitivity turned off, opacity/flow pressure sensitivity turned on, because the brush hair is thinner at the tip.
>brights #4, #12
Size and opacity pressure sensitivity turned off.
The only thing that needs a texture is the fan brush, which can still be built on a hard or soft round brush base.

[Anonymous No.6709310]

>>6708438
What the hell is milky brushwork

[Anonymous No.6709344]

>>6709120
retard

[Anonymous No.6709429]

>>6709120
>bounce light is stronger on the shadow side
Wow retard. Here let Mr. Prokopenko teach you.

[Anonymous No.6709438]

>>6708474
>this is why 'hard round brush' is such an effective gatekeeping crab move
No.

Hard round brush is inefficient for some tasks, but it's versatile, and can do anything any other brush can do, only slower. Brushes are mostly useful for texturing, which is but icing on the cake.

A good painting requires solid understanding on light and composition, regardless of the medium.

[Anonymous No.6709447]

>>6709429
>>Wow retard.
>>Post a photo with strong bounce light on shadow side

Average ic anon

[Anonymous No.6709453]

>>6709438
>>Hard round brush is inefficient for some tasks, but it's versatile, and can do anything any other brush can do, only slower.

Hard round brush is the type of brush for digital begs who don't know how to handle texture. A literall factory setting brush. In traditional art, you don't have a default medium, because everything have their own texture and diversity. Pencil gives different looks to charcoal and charcoal gives different looks to water color. If you want to go somewhere, atleast learn how to use custom brush along with your fundamental skill.

[Anonymous No.6709500]

>>6709438
>can do anything any other brush can do, only slower
you. an say the same thing about any brush, all of them can do what hrb does with varying efficiency, the statement is utterly worthless

[Anonymous No.6709563]

>>6709447
You are not gonna make it if you don't see the difference.

[Anonymous No.6709572]

>>6709563
not him, but it’s grouped with the halftone, it’s a technically shit execution

[Anonymous No.6709596]

>>6709500
Yo'ure isolating a portion of the argument in an attempt to dismiss the whole thing. That's not how it works.

That's indeed the case, but hard-round brush is most suited for beginners who should be focusing on establishing basic shapes with proper value/color, because that's what it's most naturally suited to do, while fancier brushes are better suited for texturing.

The same phenomenon happens in trad: don't use stomps, focus on the planes of what you're rendering. Some style of teaching discourage people from blending in oils: just layer some intermediate shape instead to soften things.

>>6709453
Of course, but saying that pros are gatekeeping secret brushes to trump competition is wrong. I'm not saying custom brushes are useless either. Just that for beginners, hard round is a decent choice to keep them focus on the essential.

Much better than spending hours looking for the magic brushes set that will make everything work, because that's simply not how it works.

[Anonymous No.6709599]

>>6709596
>Yo'ure isolating a portion of the argument in an attempt to dismiss the whole thing
I’m saying what you said is stupid, I’m not the guy you’re arguing with

[Anonymous No.6709617]

>>6708438
I remember watching a paid video where the guy teaching said that one of his brushes was given to him by a coworker while working on a big project with a NDA so he couldn't share it.
At that point, why even bother with the lesson?

[Anonymous No.6709773]

>>6708833
>it smells like you are moms pussy.

That's what you just wrote. I don't know why this makes me cringe so much but it just makes you look like an idiot. Same thing when people can't discern between "to" and "too". Pls. It's the bare minimum.

[Anonymous No.6709779]

>>6709773
trolling is a art

[Anonymous No.6709817]

>>6708802
>>6708861
KEK totally the same guy

[Anonymous No.6709873]

>>6709817
u mad?

[Anonymous No.6709926]

there will always be pissy panties energy with digital "art" because it's inherently soulless garbage.

The whole "dress it up to be pretend tradchad" thing is the worst, too.
Thank god AI has wiped digital "art" off the map, it will unfortunately take a little time for humanity to realize that it's happened.

Thanks for the laughs, back to my canvas now.

[Anonymous No.6710138]

>>6709596
>for beginners, hard round is a decent choice to keep them focus on the essential
This. Don't fall for the crabby gatekeepers. If you're lost because you don't know what brushes to use or whatever, just use the hard round brush with opacity control. Custom brushes are inessential for learning and a hindrance to complete beginners. Focus on values to describe 3d shapes, this is most essential part. Good values make up 90% of a good painting.

[Anonymous No.6710209]

>>6710138
>focus on values
>use opacity
retard

[Anonymous No.6710281]

>>6710209
Take your meds.

[Anonymous No.6710287]

>>6710281
post your work

[Anonymous No.6710304]

>>6710287
nta, but did you say retard because you should do full opacity as a beginner to focus on value, and not try to turn form smoothly? in theory yes, but barely anyone does that and get good at values just fine.

[Anonymous No.6710311]

>>6710304
barely anyone is good at value

[Anonymous No.6710339]

>>6710311
I said barely anyone does that, meaning "among those who got good, barely anyone did full opacity work as a beginner"

[Anonymous No.6710351]

>>6710339
*you think more would be good if full opacity was the meta, yeah, I agree actually, Applied to color too.

[Anonymous No.6711620]

>>6709926
100% this, not surprised that folx are purposely avoiding your post

[Anonymous No.6711655]

>>6711620
>not surprised that folx are purposely avoiding your post
he's not here though. he left to go back to his canvas. A response would be "MUH SOVL" there's not much to say to someone with that attitude. Mimicking traditional in digital, even if it's not all the way there is fun and looks good. I don't claim digital it is better.

[Anonymous No.6711656]

>>6708474
Pepsi is disgusting though, who would want to know the recipe

[Anonymous No.6711707]

>>6709224
>showing weakness and limitation of the brush
Last time I checked, people love brushwork whether it's scratchy or fluid-like. I don't know why you're so bent out of shape that you're willing to forgo your position against brush strokes to insult someone, but those works do not show any weakness or limitation of the brush used.

Don't go full retard. Never go full retard.

[Anonymous No.6711710]

>>6711620
People are avoiding the post because it's worthless and neither contributes to anything, nor inspires anything.
It's a waste of time to even acknowledge the stupidity because there's nothing to fix. Birds can't teach worms to fly, and the worm would be too scared to even try.

[Anonymous No.6712037]

>>6708525
Based
And yea soft smudge tool with lowered spacing and some scattering gets you 99% of the way through

[Anonymous No.6713407]

>>6709429
this is a horrible example

[Anonymous No.6714247]

>>6713407
crab

[Anonymous No.6714453]

>>6714247
squint at the ball, the light is the same value in the shadow, the lights and darks are mixed and not separated, the reflected light is too bright, the form is lost. NEVER lighten the shadow to create a core, DARKEN THE CORE to create a reflected light. even the fucking cast shadow is also grouped into light when you squint. but who cares anyway, permabeg brainlets will be permabeg brainlets

[Anonymous No.6714468]

>>6714453
>OH NO LE LIGHT AND LE DARK ARE MIXED I AM GOING FUCKING INSANE!

[Anonymous No.6714471]

>>6714468
grouping light and shadow are the basics of rendering

[Anonymous No.6714506]

>>6714471
Well then, good thing that Proko clearly does it.

[Anonymous No.6714795]

>>6714468
>look at this badly exposed photo
equivalent of posting a fucked up sculpture to defend bad anatomy

[Anonymous No.6715295]

>>6714795
>Uh nn-NO y-YOUR PHOTO IS BAD! OKAY !

[Anonymous No.6715457]

>>6715295
yes

[Anonymous No.6716592]

>>6708438
Mixer brush

[Anonymous No.6717851]

HOW

[Anonymous No.6717875]

>>6708438
>"dependent on weird brushes"
>"what is he actually doing"

NGMI in its truest form. Instead of simply trying to figure it out himself by studying fundamentals, color picking, and playing with value, this faggot thinks hes using a weird brush.
Zoomer mindset. They refuse to actually try shit themselves.