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Where is everybody?
Most drawings are ignored and it's hard to get critiques even when specifically requesting them. I thought this place was full of rabid assholes jumping at every opportunity to throw shit at a study or any random piece of work, but they too are gone. We get the occasional "finish the cat" and the OC redraw thread is pretty cool, but other than that it's pretty much dead in here even during weekends. Did discord communities win? Was the brutally honest feedback too much to handle for most artists?

>> No.6708347

>>6708337
quit after techbros raided for the 100000th time

>> No.6708352

Stables started going out of style after steam locomotive tracks began being laid down.

>> No.6708355

>>6708337
It's either AI shills like >>6708352 or people are drawing.

>> No.6708366

>>6708337
Yeah, board's on a low point in popularity I feel. The generals I post on all seem slower now compared to the lockdown days. Maybe it's the NGMIs getting culled idk

>> No.6708379

>>6708355
I've been drawing long enough that I can give myself critiques so sharing stuff is pretty useless for me most of the time, but I still enjoy talking to other artists who are struggling and giving feedback whenever I can given my current skill level. It almost feels like a lot of people has given up on grinding. Maybe that's for the best, since it can be a miserable experience.

>> No.6708393

I started visiting this board last year then left because it was all doomer AI just give up bullshit. Came back and now it's a lot more chill.

>> No.6708401

>>6708337
The board was never good, but ai was ass for everyone.
It wasn't just ic that went to shit /g/ itself was nothing but an endless spam of stable diffusion. AI retards are the worst demographic of both boards, failed artists that can't code, so they contribute nothing and shit everywhere they post.
And yes, discord communities are far better for sharing work and getting critique, this board is only meant so you come back once a month to see if something changed.

>> No.6708411

>>6708401
I want to believe you that discord communities are better, but every single goddamn thread about it instantly devolves into everyone bringing up the discord channel owner's dirty laundry or shitflinging among everyone. How is that supposed to be better?

>> No.6708426

>>6708411
Ah, that's the thing, the 4xhan discord communities are absolute trash and at best just fine.
Truth be told, you can't be an angry retard 24/7 irl, once you're out of 4chan you must behave if you want quality spaces. The discord communities of big professional artists are often packed full of, precisely, very high quality artists, some of which may be trannies, cucks, liberals, women, black people and other nasty things you may not like, but they're great artists and there's a lot to learn from them.

>> No.6708431

This board just returned to its historic slowness pre 2016. If you can’t remember how it was then you’re obviously new.

>> No.6708493

>>6708379
>It almost feels like a lot of people has given up on grinding
Are the people you're talking to from online communities or irl? Because in my experience people irl are still trying to level up same as they were before. Online artists tend to be very distracted by social media and scrolling. They also get complacent with their skill level once they start getting a lot of likes.

>> No.6708497

>>6708337
Hopefully because digitalfags have left because of AI. Maybe now this board will go back to exclusively trad art.

>> No.6708517

>>6708337
The internet as a whole feels like a wasteland compared to the heyday of art communities. I wish I was on sijun at it's peak, Craig Mullins(spoogedemon) was dropping thoughtful critiques by the dozen every day...

>> No.6708562

>>6708411
Discord only persists because it's fueled by drama and megalomania. It's a cesspool of degeneracy and power falling in the hands of the exact kind of people who shouldn't have any.

>> No.6708584

Can't help it, man. I've lost my will to draw. It just feels like a chore. I've been drawing for a year but lately I just haven't been able to draw shit. Has anyone else been through this? How do I regain my motivation?

>> No.6708591

>>6708517
I read some of his posts on archive.org but the pictures were not archived unfortunately. I guess pros and high ints have learned they can market their knowledge by offering mentorships, it's very easy to process payments these days so I can't really blame them either. But still, there's something about being part of an active community full of people striving to get better that is not easily replicated with a mentorship

>> No.6708595

It died when google images stopped spidering 4chan.

>> No.6708603

>>6708584
>How do I regain my motivation?
What motivated you in the first place? Start there.

>> No.6708608

>>6708337
I've embraced AI and have been mostly working on my promptsmithing. It's not a very popular activity around here, of course...

Judge all you want at least I'm working. Lots of people getting into AI Art who don't know how to clean up mistakes etc.
This is the future, makes no sense to fight it when I could be getting in early.

>> No.6708612

>>6708608
So you're an ai babysitter now? Cleaning up it's poopies?

>> No.6708614

>>6708608
posting this nonsense for a year straight isn't going to convert anyone to your cult, rajesh

>> No.6708616

>>6708608
> I could be getting in early
Don't fool yourself anon, if it keeps improving you won't be needed soon. It will be so good and so easy to do even our grandmas will be prompting on their phone apps.
>>6708584
Have you only been drawing for a single year?

>> No.6708619

>>6708608
At best getting in early just means you'll eat up all the bullshit so a user friendly interface comes to life that banks on your free labor and delivers on something actually useful to artists.
At worst you're just wasting time lmao

>> No.6708625

>>6708616
>Have you only been drawing for a single year?
yes
>>6708603
>What motivated you in the first place? Start there.
I guess I don't really know. I've always wanted to draw and last year I finally started. I guess I just want to draw. I think I'm starting to like it again. I've only been doing figure drawing with charcoal for a while and I guess I got burned out. Now I'm drawing Baki characters on a tablet and I'm having fun again. Just gotta switch from time to time ig. And take a day off every now and then

>> No.6708632

>>6708608
>>Judge all you want at least I'm working. Lots of people getting into AI Art who don't know how to clean up mistakes etc.

A.I is like fastfood. People didn't stop eating traditional meal because fastfood exist. What you are doing is doing quality control for fastfood, which is a useless and mundane job compares to professional chef.

>> No.6708634

>>6708584
I have been drawing for over 10 years, from paper pen to digital. It always feel like a chore. You should make your own reputation on art market to make money out of it. That will motivate you.

>> No.6708635
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6708635

>>6708625
Maybe draw something else too, some say "just draw" by Feng Zhu is a meme but it's a lot easier to make a few rocks look good than a whole character is. Try to ease yourself in.

>> No.6708637

>>6708352
I recommend you kill yourself with said locomotives.

>> No.6708640

>>6708635
>is a meme
hmm? I think it's a great video.

>> No.6708642

>>6708431
Stupid pretend oldfag. The draw generals used to last less than a week, not over a month like it is now. Check the archive if you don't believe me. The board is deader than dead.

>> No.6708649

>>6708642
Where did everyone go :(

>> No.6708652

4chan can't afford bots anymore

>> No.6708671

>>6708642
I was here since 2013.

>> No.6708675

>w-we wuz art kingz n shiet
jej

>> No.6708714

Discord and reddit are much better, they have females and they send nudes. Nobody is interested in drawing, we are interested in women.

>> No.6708731

>>6708426
This is the most truthful post itt and everyone should take it as the main reason to leave this cesspool if they want to actually improve but no one will

>> No.6708751

>>6708731
I'll leave if you leave!

>> No.6708755

>>6708411
Because faggots literally can't help but to air out their dirty laundry back on to the board which always fucks the general. And every single time it's over the dumbest nodraw shit as well.

>> No.6708760

>>6708731
Okay you can leave. Don’t let the door slam on your way out.

So anyway…..

>> No.6708766

>>6708714
Reddit sucks, you will get almost no feedback. For some reason people here actually respond

>> No.6708771

>>6708766
Reddit seems shitty for art, would a redline thread ever be possible there? The format wouldn't allow it.

>> No.6708780

4chan in general is stagnating with the boards outside of /v/, /tv/, sometimes /sp/, and /pol/ growing. It took the creation of /vt/ to keep the site functional at all since they also make up a good portion of posts here.
4chan is also just not terribly conductive to creative types out there.
https://4stats.io/

>> No.6708783

>>6708766
They respond on reddit bro just try actually posting there

>> No.6708813

>>6708783
go back

>> No.6708818

>>6708813
Stay bitchless buddy or be my bitch

>> No.6708852

>>6708337
>every post is bait and trolling or drama
>if it's not its just inane circlejerking, social games and clout chasing
It's just not worth posting in this twitter carbon copy with the same exact low iq illiterate underage user base anymore.

Just lurk, maybe post something that needs to be said and then leave.
>>6708426
>The discord communities of big professional artists are often packed full of, precisely, very high quality artists
No. They're the same as every other community filled with clout hungry artists.
Them being trannies and cucks only enhances their childish, selfish low iq mentality and highly unprofessional behavior.

Most of them come here to shill their servers or spam drama anyway.

AI is really not an issue except for mentally ill cloutchasing "pros" and begs.

>> No.6708855

>>6708852
>just
>just do
>just just just
enough

>> No.6708863
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>>6708347
>>6708355
Also this was it for me. I suppose I was NGMI in the first place but... I'll just never be able to compete against AI.
By the point I'm able to achieve something similar to picrel, AI will already be able to do even greater stuff.

>> No.6708864

>>6708852
Mentally ill people make for good artists, and by your smug cringe ass post I bet you must be Caravaggio.

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6708867

6708855
6708864
>going out of their way to post absolutely nothing of value but sperg out just like a retarded child
>"uuuuuuhr durrr cringe cope i bet u smug stop saying words"
This just proves my point.

Just kill yourselves already.

>> No.6708871

>>6708867
U ok buddy
I said I bet you're a good artist, what got into you?

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6708874

>>6708871
>U ok buddy
>I said I bet you're a good artist, what got into you?
Wow, you got me anon
have a (you)
so talented and smart
haha you checkmated me
where can i follow you?

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6708884

>>6708874
I don't mind your meltdown, Im just poking you a bit to see what a high IQ, mature and professional artist is like.

>> No.6708892

>>6708337
Fatigued from my day job.

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6708894

>>6708884
Fuck you got me anon
i cant stop seething and you probably also know my life better than me
I can tell that you know how i feel at all times
you outwitted me by exactly knowing what a schizo like me is hearing inside his head
Bro, just let me like and subscribe to your social media
i am so humiliated and meltdown right now

>> No.6708898

>>6708884
You got him good, Anon. He is probably just slitting his wrists right now.

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>>6708894
I accept your concession, I hope you've learned your lesson.

>> No.6708904

someone summarize the argument for me. im not reading your terrible writing

>> No.6708906

>>6708900
I hope talking to the voices inside your head has made your day.

>> No.6708917

>>6708863
This is fucking sad. I hope you won't give up.

>> No.6708926

>>6708852
Post work

>> No.6708930

>>6708904
>board is all bait, projections and snark exactly like twitter minors spamming "no u" at everything to get attention and try to humiliate others for clout
>"no u" kiddies appear to get attention
>they prove anon right
>anon should have ignored them but he couldn't prove his point otherwise since the kiddies were eager to prove him right

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6708934

>>6708926
Sure

>> No.6708938

>>6708863
Have you thought of trying 3d? Your "art goals" are kinda leaning in that direction rather than painting.

>> No.6708942

>>6708934
Merc Wip! My love.

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6708971

>>6708863
>AI can make fucked up archways and leaves
>i can never compete

>> No.6708975

>>6708971
He can't compete since he doesn't even draw in the first place.