/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.6703559]

ITT: art next to the reference

[Anonymous No.6703560]

[Anonymous No.6703563]

[Anonymous No.6703565]

[Anonymous No.6703566]

>>6703560
I really like this but I think David Bowie is hot so maybe I'm biased.

[Anonymous No.6703567]

[Anonymous No.6703573]

[Anonymous No.6703574]

[Anonymous No.6703582]

[Anonymous No.6703584]

>>6703565
Saved. Your gestural flow is so lively, do you have a blog?

>>6703573
Love your whimsical rendering, blog?

[Anonymous No.6703587]

>>6703573
I will learn on how to render, i fucking swear.

[Anonymous No.6703604]

>>6703587
That's literally two tone shading, almost cel shading

[Anonymous No.6703608]

>>6703584
Those are lsewesl and Ramon_N90 on twitter

[Anonymous No.6703612]

>>6703604
Yet i get flitered by it and struggle on how to do it

[Anonymous No.6703630]

[Anonymous No.6703631]

>>6703574
>tfw no wife to make you capes and film you doing retarded shit so you can draw yourself as Batman more accurately

[Anonymous No.6703634]

[Anonymous No.6703678]

David Finch Aphrodite IX

[Anonymous No.6703683]

>>6703678
Milo Manara WWW

[Anonymous No.6703709]

>>6703559
the real image has to be shopped right

[Anonymous No.6703725]

>>6703559
Hnnng, there's something about women with that slight tummy pudge and thick thighs that get me drawing.

[Anonymous No.6703753]

>>6703725
probably because having wide child birthing hips and a womb are characteristics of fertility pregnant sex plap plap plap plap plap

[Anonymous No.6703754]

>>6703559
coom

[Anonymous No.6703772]

>>6703559
>Bokuman is a fraud that traces

No waaaaaaaaaaaay~~
lmao that was known since 2013

[Anonymous No.6703774]

>>6703559
the shitty coomslop on the left is in no way an homage to the masterpiece on the right

[Anonymous No.6703795]

>>6703559
Why did he draw the mouth like that?

[Anonymous No.6703810]

>>6703573
Eyes were key here, well done

[Anonymous No.6703852]

>>6703574
I actually don't get the purpose of this one.
With how simplistic the style is, you'd think the guy could have just busted out a sketch in a few minutes instead of going through the rigmarole of posing, lighting, and taking pictures of all this stuff then pasting it all together only to not even use half of it. I mean, look at it. Superman's musculature is extremely simplified, the hand/arm poses are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, the drapery is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT- seriously, he basically just ended up doing two of the most potentially difficult subjects in the composition completely by imagination anyways. The only thing that makes any sense whatsoever is using a car model as reference, everything else is either redundant (seriously, what comic artist worth their salt couldn't construct a simplified figure from memory???), or completely pointless because he didn't even follow the reference anyways.
>inb4 no roolz only toolz le client doesn't care if you photobash so long as the end result is good yadda yadda yadda
This guy legitimately put MORE EFFORT into being "lazy" than he would have if he had just slapped a sketch down and did it by hand and from imagination, except for the car probably. It's not like this guy was going for realism or needed a lot of detail, like that one guy who painted movie posters on commission using stills he cut from the movie for example. This shit is actually just retarded.

[Anonymous No.6703859]

>>6703852
Light and proportion reference dumbo

[Anonymous No.6703888]

>>6703859
>proportion
Anon. He is a *comic book artist*. He draws the human figure more than anything else, and he can into construction. The proportions of the human figure are the first and most basic things you learn in figure drawing, I call bullshit on him needing reference to get it correct.
He ended up changing all of that shit in the final drawing anyways, if you didn't notice.
>lighting
Yes, I'm sure the guy who did the drapery and lighting of the capes *completely by imagination* just absolutely needed to use a reference to get the lighting of Superman's abs and pecs correct.

>b-but it save time
For a draftsman of his caliber, with a style that's this streamlined and polished? He actually could do this faster without all of that mickey mouse bullshit.
I'm starting to think that this isn't how the guy really works but rather a hypothetical demonstration to show other artists how they could use reference in this situation, or something. Looking at this guy's work (Greg Smallwood) it's very apparent that he's a skilled and knowledgeable draftsman, not some xeroxnigger rendermonkey who never learned How2Loomis™ who has no choice but to collage a bunch of shit together and paint over it to get anything done at all.

[Anonymous No.6703890]

>>6703563
close enough

[Anonymous No.6703902]

>>6703559

[Anonymous No.6703925]

>>6703567
Draw a hand I wanna confirm something...

[Anonymous No.6703933]

>>6703559
from the recent "female body inspo" thread

[Anonymous No.6703949]

>>6703902
game over IA pajeets

[Anonymous No.6704050]

>>6703573
Ramon you were good till all your shit went nft mode. At least you made money I guess

[Anonymous No.6704088]

>>6703565
>>6703565
sauce????????? i would love to study their soulful work

[Anonymous No.6704106]

>>6703563
fucking kek

[Anonymous No.6704125]

>>6703563
Gesture Drawing™

[Anonymous No.6704130]

>>6703678
Dave’s terrible at drawing women

[Anonymous No.6704132]

>>6703574
Needing all that reference for that.
Guess it's not just proko

[Anonymous No.6704141]

>>6703563
average vlippu reader

[Anonymous No.6704155]

>>6703563
I kneel

[Anonymous No.6704160]

>>6703574
thats actually really smart

[Anonymous No.6704168]

this guy is great

[Anonymous No.6704191]

>>6704130
He used to date a black tranny back in the day, for real.

[Anonymous No.6704233]

>>6703852
>>6703888
>This guy legitimately put MORE EFFORT into being "lazy" than he would have if he had just slapped a sketch down and did it by hand and from imagination
>For a draftsman of his caliber, with a style that's this streamlined and polished? He actually could do this faster without all of that mickey mouse bullshit.
Even a professional artist can learn something new from using references. You think that using references is being lazy? I think it's the opposite in this case. The only waste of time was setting them up in a photo collage.

[Anonymous No.6704240]

>>6703709
Which part of it is supposed to be shopped?

[Anonymous No.6704264]

>>6704191
He does look weird enough.

[Anonymous No.6704266]

>>6704168
Who is he?

[Anonymous No.6704297]

>>6703574
Its things like this that made me realize that knowing how to use references is a skill within itself.

[Anonymous No.6704380]

>>6704168
Still haven't found who this is and would like to know.

[Anonymous No.6704432]

>>6704266
linween1

[Anonymous No.6704456]

love pinterest, simple as

[Anonymous No.6704479]

>>6704456
Is that inked traditionally?

[Anonymous No.6704499]

[Anonymous No.6704567]

>>6704499
pretty cool

[Anonymous No.6704666]

heres my stuff. i feel like i've mastered anatomy, or at least am coming CLOSE to it for sure.

[Anonymous No.6704762]

>>6704666
Hi Noah

[Anonymous No.6704792]

>>6703559

[Anonymous No.6704850]

>>6704762
who tf is Noah? (im OP)

[Anonymous No.6704860]

>>6704850
Sure thing Noah ;)

[Anonymous No.6704883]

>>6704666
>>6704850
Oh, now im 100% sure you're Noah ;)

[Anonymous No.6704890]

>>6704860
>>6704883

im actually being deadass rn tho. im not Noah.

people actually call me Marc (bc ig people in this board think my art style is smiliar to Marc Brunets, idk)

[Anonymous No.6705072]

>>6704479
good eye, yes.
Digital is just boring to me. Everyone looks alike too.

[Anonymous No.6705219]

>>6703559
3dpd looks better for once

[Anonymous No.6705233]

>>6703560
destroyed this.

[Anonymous No.6705237]

>>6703678
fucking deep. Artist made the ghetto romantic.

[Anonymous No.6705361]

>>6704666
Anatomically, it looks solid. And there's some motion and verve there, but it actually feels somewhat less lively than the original and I say that because the legs don't curve as much as the model's does. I get that the main point of your study was to capture the anatomy, but you should try and push the gesture you see just a little more, always a little more than you think is accurate, because when you add the forms and musculature on top, it'll dampen those original lines.

[Anonymous No.6705372]

>>6703565
Very soulful, reminds me of the art direction of the Iron giant

[Anonymous No.6705375]

>>6704666
i love your chest anatomy, can you share some tips?

[Anonymous No.6705514]

>>6703933
I'm going to vomit

[Anonymous No.6705546]

>>6705514
Happy pride month fag

[Anonymous No.6705549]

>>6703563
>life drawing

[Anonymous No.6705553]

>>6703559
this is my ideology. Improving women through art. (cuz in rweality they ugly, hairy, and not even women anymore.)

[Anonymous No.6705639]

>>6705553

[Anonymous No.6705689]

>>6705375
best thing i can say is to not draw every detail whith a straight line. if you look at the collar bone tips just below the neck, you see i used cross hatching to convey the roundness of the shape. also i simplify it by not drawing every muscle. most of the chest is just blank, and thats bc the chest is being stretched by the arms. and since its being stretched, the volume disperses. you see at the bottom of the chest, i didnt draw the line to convey the muscle. it just looks more appealing when you leave things blank. the viewer knows enough about the human body to fill in the gaps. also one last thing: when you draw the split in between the chest, try ti break the lines up. it makes it look more realistic AND appealing.

im probbly rambling and repeating myself, but thats all i have to share.

[Anonymous No.6705692]

>>6705639
DEBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONKED

[Anonymous No.6705697]

>>6703559
it's the artist herself

[Anonymous No.6706194]

>>6703604
yes, but designing an appealing shape language is still the most important and essential part of rendering, so it is impressive to see it done well :)

[Anonymous No.6706216]

>>6704233
Were else to put them then? No chapeau to the basher, it's pretty close to the original, I'd say.
Was this left one possibly the ref to the rendered one? Any info? So we're guessing...

[Anonymous No.6706293]

>>6703933
Can you post the reference? Good drawing but I don't really like your take on it.

[Anonymous No.6706333]

>>6703709
>>6703772
>>6703795
>>6703559
OP is lying, this is who Bokuman actually drew. The other woman's hand was subtly shooped to make that gesture.

[Anonymous No.6706348]

>>6706293
The thread is still up

[Anonymous No.6706451]

>>6703725

[Anonymous No.6706608]

>>6703563
based right brain thinker

[Anonymous No.6706990]

>>6706216
the left one is reference for the final, yeah. i don't know why it would be the other way around. if you google "greg smallwood batman superman" the thread where the image comes from is like the first result, hopefully that will lead to less guessing on your guys' part: https://twitter.com/SavageSmallwood/status/1376563954550460424

looks like he started with the sketch, then moved onto the ref collage, and used that as a sketch to ink over (i suspect there was more sketching in between that isn't shown in the thread).

i'm impressed with how much reference goes into a piece like this. def leads to higher quality results. makes me want to use more ref in my drawings

[Anonymous No.6706995]

>>6703902
love rivera's work

[Anonymous No.6707415]

>>6706995
>rivera
Same.

[Anonymous No.6707425]

>>6707415
remove the pride flag and youve got yourself a nice cold war propaganda poster

[Anonymous No.6707460]

>>6705072
How is it done? What's your method?

[Anonymous No.6707587]

>>6703608
rinotuna but soulless

[Anonymous No.6708040]

I've picked up drawing again recently after couple of years

[Anonymous No.6708042]

>>6708040

[Anonymous No.6708999]

>>6703573
literally fucked up the one biggest feature, the eyes being crossed

[Anonymous No.6710080]

>>6703573
It's not cross eyed you dumb fuck she's looking at something close to her. That's how eyeballs work.

[Anonymous No.6710831]

>>6708042
Horrible, face is traced realistically while body is made too thin, especially considering the original is already photoshopped to have unrealistic proportions. Give some shading or detail in the face and fix the body, or slap on some giant anime eyes.

[Anonymous No.6711070]

>>6706608
Nodraw here. I have the same problem. Can you elaborate?

[Anonymous No.6711125]

>>6706451

god damn i hate that style. the face especially, the eye height is way too high up & the forehead is tiny. it looks wrong as fuck & makes the character look like it has downs syndrome.

[Anonymous No.6711159]

>>6704666
>i feel like i've mastered anatomy

You have a long way to go. You need to work on the proportions & sharpen your observational skills. the fundamental proportions are off all over the drawing.

The models left leg in the drawing (the leg with the the foot on the floor) is significantly shorter than the right leg. the distance from the knee to the foot needs to be longer, you start the calf muscle way too far up the leg to compensate compounding the problem. The foreshortening of the thigh on the leg in the air is off, the thigh is much too bulky & the thigh muscles themselves look like they are twisted to the left too far as well. The trunk & the torso are too wide and if you look at where you have positioned the collarbone, the neck is not centered on the torso but a couple of inches too far left. The head itself is slightly too big (the distance from the chin to the top of the head is way too long / stretched) if you compare it to the model. The height of the eyes are positioned too high on the face especially in relation to the ears, look at the photo, the ears are positioned significantly higher than the eye line but in your drawing they are the same height.

it doesnt matter how well you can render details over the top, if the proportions are wrong the drawing will look amateur.

Thinking you have mastered a technique or skill won't aid your development & makes you more complacent, genuinely good artists are the ones who realize there is always something to learn or improve.

godspeed anon.

[Anonymous No.6711286]

>>6711070
it's not a problem it's a gift
if you draw like that then keep going, you're doing it right

[Anonymous No.6711527]

Referencing photos limits one's malleability, it is better to create a scene with puppets and props and then repaint it as one envisions it.

[Anonymous No.6711533]

>>6711159
-being autistically anal about dumb things that don’t matter to consumers
Yet another reason why IC will never make it.

[sage No.6711818]

>>6711533
>being autistically anal about dumb things that don’t matter to consumers

You let hypothetical consumers in your head restrict you from improving. Bro you lost before you even started.

[Anonymous No.6711952]

>>6706293
Lol why was the second sentence necessary
fucking rude nigger

[Anonymous No.6712052]

>>6703725
Wtf is that pudge anyway, I don't understand female anatomy at all

[Anonymous No.6712065]

>>6712052
That bump is created by the womb (i think)
girls are weird

[Anonymous No.6712069]

>>6712065
>>6712052
the state of this board

[Anonymous No.6712098]

>>6712069
that's where the womb is! i wasn't that far off c'mon.

[Anonymous No.6713879]

[Anonymous No.6713912]

>>6707415
censorship, intolerance, crime, despotism, exploitation, is he shielding himself????

these woke and their infinite hypocrisy

[Anonymous No.6713952]

>>6707415

[Anonymous No.6713957]

>>6713952
Did this take you five whole days to edit?

[Anonymous No.6713975]

>>6713957
15 seconds the same as it takes your awakened ideology to contradict itself, bye

[Anonymous No.6714023]

>>6713952
>a Pride-spangled, warning-coloration signaling, Captain America (they/them) defends China by dissuading it from embracing baizuo cultural and political norms through his ostentatious display of alternative lifestyle
powerful and brave, +1000 social credit

[Anonymous No.6714105]

>>6704191
tan with a ten huehuehue less stress!!

[Anonymous No.6714107]

>>6706451
Do you have this in a not dogshit quality?

[Anonymous No.6714118]

>>6706451
truly Gauguin reborn

[Anonymous No.6714197]

>>6713952
Based of based

[Anonymous No.6714200]

>>6714023
Correction: captain woke defending China from a fag position not accepted in China, shitting on his own freedom for believing himself to be a revolutionary with an ideology planned by old oligarchs of the open society, while holding the shield of mental illness and avoiding being assassinated by the reason and conscience, with the symbol of pedophilia on the chest and waist.

[Anonymous No.6714434]

>>6707460
>pencil sketch
>ink
>???
inking a pencil sketch is the most honest hack free media that exists.

[Anonymous No.6714498]

>>6703852
Using reference like this makes the actual drawing a ton easier, lets you pretty much skip the sketch phase and drop straight into clean lines/color over the reference while changing up anything you dont like

A pro should probably be able to do this by hand but making this reference probably took like 20 minutes compared to i dont know how long it wouldve taken him to get the general feeling of the drawing right in the sketch

[Anonymous No.6714520]

>>6711952
>>6703933

hes right tho, you made it kinda weird looking
left leg is weird because the knee should be lower than the right one and the leg should forshorten more
and the legs are weirdly thin at the knees and ankles
belly line is too pronounced and dark
Head is pretty nice

[Anonymous No.6714532]

>>6708042
nice reference, ugly drawing

[Anonymous No.6714547]

>>6703774
> barbieface.jpg

>>6703852
Whatever: got him to work, and produce something okay

>>6703902
Why is she smiling.

>>6704499
Who ate the apple

[Anonymous No.6716316]

>>6713952
Very based bro

[Anonymous No.6716341]

>>6713879
Pictures like this always make me afraid that my art style might end up looking queer, like I'm only a few wrong decisions from drawing stuff like this.
>>6703634
I'm glad that I discovered this artist. He improved on his reference in every way.

[Anonymous No.6716556]

>>6703725
That's called being a healthy, heterosexual man.

[Anonymous No.6716821]

>>6703559
Source for the girl?

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[Anonymous No.6717988]

>>6713879
ew

[Anonymous No.6718000]

>>6716341
>my art style might end up looking queer,
I mean, I get what you mean but I don't at the same time. On one hand, yes the color rendering in the One piece fanart is similar to some gay porn and """woke""" artists out on twitter, but on the other hand, people make assumptions on people's lifestyle choices through their art a lot online. We've had threads where you post a drawing and people try to determine your age, sex, and lifestyle choices. What I'm trying to say is, don't worry about how people might judge your lifestyle choices based on your art choices

[Anonymous No.6718016]

>>6703933
Kek how do you fuck up this bad? why is everything so wrinkly and haggard looking, and what's with the pencil-thin neck?

[Anonymous No.6718095]

>>6703933
The heavy line details on the body worsens the appearance of the figure. You are adding litterally too much weight to an otherwise acceptable body to fudge.

[Anonymous No.6718097]

>>6708042
The unrealistic waist size did not add any more appeal to the drawing. The only folks that would eat this up is Asians, but that's only if you correct the fact the body doesn't flow together from the waist to the hips at all. It looks like a bad edit.
I give it a D for effort.

[Anonymous No.6718116]

>>6718097
Asians dont care for fat asses and hips. The more waifish, the better.

[Anonymous No.6718365]

Less talking, more posting work. Chop chop, my little internet slaves.

[Anonymous No.6719200]

>>6703574
I do this sometimes lol, it looks dumb but it actually works

[Anonymous No.6721174]

>>6703559
Whats this line from on the side of the butt? is it the divide from gluteus maximus and gluteus medius? Or is it just fat interacting with one of those two?
I've seen like divots on side of leg before but it's usually not a big curve like that

[Anonymous No.6721176]

>>6705697
omo that outfit....

[Anonymous No.6721221]

>>6721174
Femur. Namely the ball joint.
shes putting her weight on it while relaxing her other leg to make her butt look big.

[Anonymous No.6721226]

>>6721221
damn i didn't realize the femur was that far back, but i guess when shifting it for that angle the top of the thighs look at lot closer. thanks

[Anonymous No.6721236]

>>6721226
yeah, look at this. you can see her waist-hip bone lining up with her belly button.
the ball joint is a little lower.

[Anonymous No.6721237]

>>6721236

[Anonymous No.6721241]

>>6721236
>>6721237
so that small indent where her jeans start is between the hip bone and the greater trochanter

[Anonymous No.6721271]

>>6721241
is it like this or lower then?

[Anonymous No.6721279]

>>6721271
yeah, close, i want to say the trochanter is a little lower slightly lined up with her pockets., but you got the general idea.

[Anonymous No.6721291]

>>6716917
>>6716916
>not fat
>makes them fat
such is life

[Anonymous No.6722774]

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[Anonymous No.6725238]

>>6703634
>>6716341
name?

[Anonymous No.6725276]

>>6725221
cute

[Anonymous No.6725298]

>>6725276
and funny

[Anonymous No.6725343]

>>6721236
>>6721237
>>6721271
>>6721279
In my opinion it is like this

[Anonymous No.6725386]

>>6721236
>>6721271
>>6721279
I don't normally draw on the computer and this is rough and dirty, but here you go.

Key:
R.A. Rectus Abdominis
E.O. External Oblique
G.M. Gluteus Medius
T.F.L. Tensor Fascia Lata
V.L. Vastus Lateralis
R.F. Rectus Femoris (has a groove down the middle)
S Sartorius
AD Adductors
A.S.I.S. Anterior Superior Iliac Spine (pelvic point)
G.T. Greater Trochanter of the Femur

In a standing pose, the navel is usually at or near the level of the top of the pelvis (so the back of the iliac crest).

[Anonymous No.6725414]

>>6703852
Dumb nodraw beg

[Anonymous No.6725481]

>>6703559

[Anonymous No.6725572]

>>6725343
>>6725386
yeah, these are far more accurate.

[Anonymous No.6725999]

[Anonymous No.6726304]

>>6705553
Pretty gay ideology.

[Anonymous No.6726544]

>>6703563
Legit better than the winning submission that didn’t even look like the same dog.

[Anonymous No.6727273]

>>6725298
cunny

[Anonymous No.6727321]

>>6725999
Why did you make it look like a fucking retard

[Anonymous No.6727361]

>>6725481
Nice style and lines. Ass is a bit saggy tho.

[Anonymous No.6727593]

>>6727321
Eyes are my biggest struggle rn

[Anonymous No.6727681]

>>6727361
ty ill keep that in mind

[Anonymous No.6727861]

>>6705697
who's the artist?

[Anonymous No.6728921]

>>6703852
>I actually don't get the purpose of this one.

You don't get it because you're a /beg/ crablet that will never make it.
Paolo Rivera is way better than everyone in this dump, myself included.
>what comic artist worth their salt couldn't construct a simplified figure from memory?
He's a painter and sculptor that do comic book covers, not a comic book artist that do interior art and need to draw from memory instead of observation.

[Anonymous No.6730311]

[Anonymous No.6730472]

>>6730311
>pointless change: the pic

[Anonymous No.6730479]

>>6730472
designlet

[Anonymous No.6730484]

>>6730479
Microcorrecting a photo's pose that was perfectly fine is for fucking know-it-all losers
If anything, it tells that your original pose wasn't capturing the picture's intent

[Anonymous No.6732008]

>>6703559
What is the difference between this and using AI as a reference?

why don't you trace if all you're doing is copying a reference?