Japan: AI art is now CRIMINALIZED

[Anonymous No.6690729]

AI COPYRIGHT PROTECTION FOR JAPANESE ARTISTS: Japan's Agency for Cultural Affairs and the Cabinet Office released a statement, "About the Relationship between AI and Copyright" showing they are moving toward rules and regulations against commercial AI use with CRIMINAL PENALTIES, and protecting existing copyright and intellectual property rights for the works of artists and creators.

1. Japan's AI Stance In Two Phases: The statement says the life cycle of AI use will be broken down into two stages:

---Phase 1: the "AI development/learning stage": The Japanese government agency states that the use of copyrighted materials for purposes other than enjoyment, such as research and education, is "principally possible to use without copyright permission". However, this does not apply to cases that exceed the "recognized necessary limit" or "unfairly harm the interests of the copyright holder".

IN OTHER WORDS, The AI can be used for Learning & Research, But NOT for INFRINGEMENT. Therefore, copyrighted works can be used for non-commercial purposes such as education and research without requiring copyright permission. However, this freedom has its limits, especially when commercial interests threaten the rights of the copyright holder.

---Phase 2: the "AI generation/use stage": This means that if AI-generated images or other outputs are uploaded, published, or sold as reproductions, and these actions are not covered by exceptions in copyright law (such as private viewing or acts), they could be considered copyright infringements. If these AI-generated works are found to be significantly similar or dependent on existing copyrighted works, the copyright holder has the right to take LEGAL ACTION. This could involve claiming damages or seeking an injunction to stop further infringement. In some cases, these infringements could even lead to CRIMINAL PENALTIES.

[Anonymous No.6690730]

IN OTHER WORDS, it's not that any commercial use of copyrighted materials in the "AI generation/use stage" will be penalized, but rather that copyright infringement in this stage is treated the same as regular copyright infringement, with potential PENALTIES if the AI-generated works are too similar to the copyrighted works.

2. Strict Penalties for Copyright Infringement:If AI-generated works are almost identical (derivative) or CLEARLY dependent on existing copyrighted works to produce a 'new' work, the copyright holder has the right to claim damages or an injunction for copyright infringement. This could potentially lead to CRIMINAL penalties, a clear warning to those who might exploit AI for copyright infringement.

3. Japan's Future Plans for AI Regulation: Japan's Agency for Cultural Affairs plans to raise awareness about these issues through seminars and other means. They will work with legal experts and scholars to address the challenges related to the development and use of AI, indicating a proactive approach towards regulating commercial AI and PROTECTING copyrighted works for japanese artists and creators.

4. IS THIS A GAME-CHANGER FOR JAPANESE ARTISTS?: The document does suggest that Japan now has a commitment to PROTECT and SHIELD copyrighted creative work, data, and materials against commercial uses of AI. This could have far-reaching implications for AI developers and users who want to commercialize STOLEN ART and creative works FOR PROFIT, as well as copyright holders in Japan. In my opinion, THIS move marks a potential turning point in the fight against copyright infringement by AI.

Source: https://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/1506018.html

[Anonymous No.6690733]

RIP in peace, pAIjeets

[Anonymous No.6690746]

>>6690729
>>6690730
>Good news, everyone!

[Anonymous No.6690753]

>>6690733
Beautiful

[Anonymous No.6690757]

>>6690729
The translation was often misunderstood. The more accurate message would be more like "current Japanese copyright law, one cannot prevent the usage of copyrighted material in the training of AI's". And even suggested that the current laws may need to be expanded/amended to address such problems. But a lot of people seem to have interpreted this as "AI generated image can be used commercially" or even "AI generated images can be copyrighted by those who generated them"

[Anonymous No.6690760]

>>6690729
Time to pack it up Pranesh

[Anonymous No.6690761]

Don't care, an AI thread is an AI thread and it doesn't belong in a drawing board. You should kill yourself.

>>>/g/ >>>/g/ >>>/g/ >>>/g/ >>>/g/ >>>/g/

[Anonymous No.6690795]

>>6690729
EMAD EXPOSED AS A FRAUD AND EXAGGERATED CLAIMS ABOUT STABILITY
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrickcai/2023/06/04/stable-diffusion-emad-mostaque-stability-ai-exaggeration/?sh=fed1d3175c52

>But to build buzz around Stability, Mostaque made an elaborate gambit supported by exaggerated claims and promises, overstating his role in several major AI projects and embellishing a quotidian transaction with the notoriously uncompromising Amazon into a “strategic partnership” with an 80% discount. AI researchers with whom Mostaque worked told Forbes he claimed credit he did not earn or deserve. And when pressed, Stability spokesperson Motez Bishara admitted to Forbes that Stability had no special deal with Amazon.

>Mostaque’s other mischaracterizations to investors include multiple fundraising decks seen by Forbes that presented the OECD, WHO and World Bank as Stability’s partners at the time — which all three organizations deny. Bishara said the company could not comment on the presentations “without knowing the exact version,” but that they were accompanied by additional data and documentation.

>Inside the company, wages and payroll taxes have been repeatedly delayed or unpaid, according to eight former employees, and last year the UK tax agency threatened to seize company assets.

>AI experts and prospective investors have been privately expressing doubts about some of Mostaque’s claims for months now. Despite Silicon Valley’s sudden, insatiable appetite for AI startups, a number of venture capitalists told Forbes that the Stability founder has been struggling to raise hundreds of millions more in cash at a roughly $4 billion valuation. Mostaque publicly claimed last October that annualized revenue had surpassed $10 million, but insiders say sales have not improved “So many things don’t add up,” said one VC who rejected Mostaque’s funding overtures.

[Anonymous No.6690797]

>>6690729
It isn't. The politicians will keep delay until AI corps root deep in society.
Ken Akamatsu just talk about AI benefit this morning in the Diet.

[Anonymous No.6690806]

>>6690729
finally, Japan doing something good

[Anonymous No.6690808]

>>6690795
>The father of art scamming is a scammer himself
like pottery.

[Anonymous No.6690835]

[Anonymous No.6690850]

>>6690761
-We've had an ongoing problem with AI shills constantly bombarding the board with spam for at least a full year. Threads bullying and FUDing AI shills into roping themselves are a good thing and should be encouraged.

-For better or worse, image generators are on topic for this board as they have something to do with art and artists. Otherwise we wouldn't have a drawing tablet thread, among other topics.

[Anonymous No.6690859]

>>6690797
no way, I hope this doesn't happen. Isn't Ken Akumatsu a mangaka? Why is like this. What AI is talking about? "art" ai? Hopefully not

[Anonymous No.6690869]

>>6690729

now I wait for sites like patreon to completely ban AI fucktard.

[Anonymous No.6690876]

>>6690835
He's not that petty, this thread will stay up, since it has been a long time coming, it's kind of a pivitol moment.

[Anonymous No.6690878]

Is this statement from the government and is it going to become official law?

[Anonymous No.6691116]

>>6690729
>Source?
>I made it the fuck up
>>6690757

https://www.globallegalinsights.com/practice-areas/ai-machine-learning-and-big-data-laws-and-regulations/japan#:~:text=Under%20the%20current%20legal%20system,of%20producing%20the%20AI%20product.

Keep coping fagg/ic/

[Anonymous No.6691118]

Doesnt surprise me, Japan is extremely anal about copyright. I remember reading about a guy who was sent to jail for scanning and uploading raws of Shonen Jump.

[Anonymous No.6691119]

>>6690795
Made by scammers, for scammers.
Fanbox and the likes giving them the boot makes more and more sense every day.

[Anonymous No.6691125]

>>6691116
here comes the coping ni/g/ger

[Anonymous No.6691136]

>>6690729
>>6690730
>>6690733
NOOOOOOOOOOOO AISISTERS WE WERE SUPPOSED TO WIN

[Anonymous No.6691333]

>suddenly /ic/ cares about copyright
that means your will pay for all those art classes videos and pirated software besides design your own characters instead of making fanart?

[Anonymous No.6691334]

Trunks cured daddy.

[Anonymous No.6691335]

>>6691333
>muh whataboutism
Cope and seethe

[Anonymous No.6691338]

>>6691333
>he doesn't get it
are you pretending to be retarded or...?

[Anonymous No.6691364]

>>6691116

typical aitard. did you even read your own source?

[Anonymous No.6691366]

>>6690729

it's starting!

[Anonymous No.6691369]

>>6691333
>youtube art tutorial is educational only so fair-use
>krita is free software
>i draw what i want not some fanbait shit
also your ai shit has fucked up pupils and hairs clipping through each other also youre a retard

[Anonymous No.6691383]

>>6690729
>>6690730
>If these AI-generated works are found to be significantly similar or dependent on existing copyrighted works, the copyright holder has the right to take LEGAL ACTION.
This is a nice-sounding idea, but in practice it's going to be hell for an average individual copyright holder to prove the model that was used to generate a given similar-looking work was actually trained on their original works. In case of anime-stylized works, this becomes significantly harder, because so much of what is pumped out looks almost identical.

[Anonymous No.6691408]

based. fuck pajeets or whatever

[Anonymous No.6691439]

>>6690729
I hate maijin the artist so much dude, this guy has probably genuinely spewed more disinformation about AI for his outragebaitposting than anyone on the internet.

[Anonymous No.6691449]

>>6691383
>>6690730
Pretty much all of the stuff in the OP is taken directly from https://twitter.com/MAiJiNTHEARTIST/status/1665800119021862912

It's all editorialized to hell, it basically just means you can develop and train AI using any material you want, but the actual thing coming out of it is subject to copyright restrictions. Meaning, you can train your AI on disney movies and harry potter books to create Mice Wizards or whatever you want, but you can't use it to create mickey mouse or harry potter themselves or to make a mouse that looks exactly like mickey mouse and say it's your own OC.

[Anonymous No.6691451]

>>6691449
Yeah, this is what it mean.
As long as it isn't violate existing copyright, it is perfectly legal and you can copyright it.

[Anonymous No.6691452]

>>6691451
Furthermore, this rule can ruin dousing circles now that the people aware of it.
>artists copy strike AI.
>AI artists butthurt and mass copy strike doujin

[Anonymous No.6691455]

>>6691452
sir, your autocorrect

[Anonymous No.6691462]

>"won't someone think of the poor artists!"
said the ai leech

[Anonymous No.6691482]

>>6690850
>AI shills
there's literally ZERO AI shills on /ic/. It's just a bunch of disgruntled, angry artists who are pissed at AI and are falseflagging AI shit threads.

[Anonymous No.6691485]

>"it never happened, but if it did..."

[Anonymous No.6691504]

>>6691439
>>6691449
>>6691451
>>6691452

[Anonymous No.6691513]

>>6691451
>you can copyright it.
are you retarded

[Anonymous No.6691515]

>>6691449
>basically just means you can develop and train AI using any material you want,
You can only get away with that if the research purposes/non profit youre doing doesnt violate copyright in the first place. And when it gets ruled that they dont meet the fair use requirements, not even saying "b-b-but its for research!" will save them

[Anonymous No.6691570]

>>6691515
True, if the final result violates copyright then you can't sell it

[Anonymous No.6691615]

>see jap artist
>steal his shit
>make a lora
>generate image
>fix it up
>claim you made it
>"I was inspired"
>refuse to elaborate further
>inkcels btfo because no one can prove shit
lol, lmao

[Anonymous No.6691636]

>>6690760
get a new joke. srsly.

[Anonymous No.6691644]

>>6691636
Joke?
>>6691615
1/10

[Anonymous No.6691655]

>>6691636
kill yourself first

[Anonymous No.6691663]

>>6691570
>sell it
no you cant even do it at all

[Anonymous No.6691670]

>>6691570
>sell it
I dont think you get what I said
>"It is a common misconception that nonprofit organizations have special rights to use copyrighted works without permission. This misconception arises from the first fair use factor, which considers “the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes.” As explained below, “nonprofit educational purposes” is very narrowly defined. Even if a use is actually included in “nonprofit educational purpose” the use may not qualify as a fair use if the other fair use factors weigh against fair use"
if it violates copyright you cant even use it for non profit, much less selling it

[Anonymous No.6691677]

>>6691670
NTA but you can, but it has to pass the required factors under Fair Use, which upon challenge a judge will weigh against the opposing factors. Courts are more and more skeptical against anyone thinking that they can scream "Fair Use!" from the rooftops and now have some kind of protective charm against all lawsuits for copyright infringement.

[Anonymous No.6691679]

>>6691677
>but it has to pass fair use
Thats what I just said...? You'd be a fool to think these ai companies meet those factors

[Anonymous No.6691750]

>poor artcel is going to take rich entrepreneurial ai chad to court
how delusional are you people lmfao

[Anonymous No.6691759]

>>6691750
You are the one stealing assets from studios
And you have no monetized pltform no more

[Anonymous No.6691763]

Stop stealing art. Use photoshop!

[Anonymous No.6691764]

>>6691383
>it's going to be hell for an average individual copyright holder to prove the model
False
Any model can be analyzed and reverse engineered by a decent coder

[Anonymous No.6691780]

>Any model can be analyzed and reverse engineered by a decent coder
The model's code has nothing to do with figuring out what goes into the training. Knowing a neural network's architecture tells you nothing about the weights. Recovering training data is much harder. Stop pretending you understand the technology.
And all of this is besides the point because you're assuming that the sued party would just hand over the model they used, which is hilariously naive.

[Anonymous No.6691783]

>>6691759
>normalfag grifters have no platform
>soon ai will become more niche and the real ai artists who do things for no monetary benefit will rise from the ashes
seems like a pretty good scenario for aichads desu

[Anonymous No.6691784]

>>6691783
lol
lmao
Keep coping

[Anonymous No.6691787]

>>6691780
>The model's code has nothing to do with figuring out what goes into the training. Knowing a neural network's architecture tells you nothing about the weights
lol
Word spaghetti does no work
There are already websites that can extract the raw imes

>you're assuming that the sued party would just hand over the model they used
Violating court order = pronounced GUILTY

[Anonymous No.6691788]

>>6691784
you can't stop people who do it for free. you will never be able to stop true freedom.

[Anonymous No.6691794]

>>6691788
> you will never be able to stop true freedom.
Yet you cucks will seethe when others use “your” proompts. It was never about the freedom, you just want to feel like you have “talent”

[Anonymous No.6691799]

>>6691783
>spent the last 6 months trying to monetize ai
>i-it was never about money gaiz!

[Anonymous No.6691801]

>>6691794
>Yet you cucks will seethe when others use “your” proompts.
literally nobody does this except random normalfags and your imaginary strawman group. if you want prompts so badly, just ask for a catbox and you can find it in the metadata
>It was never about the freedom, you just want to feel like you have “talent”
true aichads don't care about what people think about their skills; they just like the technology and want to use it to recreate entire worlds without requiring hundreds of thousands of man hours to do so

you are just projecting some normalfag behavior onto every aifag; which is quite rude and disrespectful.
>>6691799
i never did this. who are you quoting?

[Anonymous No.6691830]

>>6691801
>ai
>skill
Lmao, it's a slot machine, you faggot.

[Anonymous No.6691836]

>>6691830
yes, it can be abstracted as a slot machine. why does that matter? generating art gives you the time to do other things.
people should have the freedom to invest their skills into whatever they want, such as programming and writing. there is no law that says they have to exclusively work on making art themselves.

[Anonymous No.6691843]

>art

[Anonymous No.6691874]

>>6691670
There is a big difference in fair use between using a copyrighted work as part of a finished artwork or thing being sold, and between using it as part of a process to make something derivative.

If I used something that's copyrighted as part of the final product being sold ie you put Goku in front of a river, you would be absolutely in violation of copyright and get your ass destroyed, but if you use it, derive from it significantly, and make a bunch of people fighting, that's fair use.

There was a lawsuit Google had about it viewing snippets from books as part of a money making feature, and the problem with that is that it was copying the whole actual parts of the book wholesale, without even edits or footnotes, and it's only THEN that the academic use usage/public good was invoked for Google to narrowly win.

[Anonymous No.6691899]

>>6691874
>being sold
Yeah no you still dont get it. The google books lawsuit had fair use apparently because it didnt compete with the market. However ai shills got too cocky and told said that artists were getting replaced and that jobs were on the line. That will now be brought up in the court of law. Also stop bring up examples of artwork being sold when. If you cant even meet the factos as a non profit, youre even less likely to get away with selling anything. I dont know why uou keep arguing that
Probably just trolling at this point but im going to use you as an example to the multiple of people that read this rather than comment

[Anonymous No.6691912]

>>6690729
To the surprise of anyone Japan still likes to cuck themselves.

[Anonymous No.6691918]

>>6691636
do not redeem
>>6691644
>>6691655
good morning sirs

[Anonymous No.6692047]

>>6691874
>If I used something that's copyrighted as part of the final product being sold ie you put Goku in front of a river, you would be absolutely in violation of copyright and get your ass destroyed, but if you use it, derive from it significantly, and make a bunch of people fighting, that's fair use.
Dumbass

You ought to use something made by your own hands
Collages are your own hands
AI is machine and therefore not your own hands

[Anonymous No.6692082]

>>6692047
What if you collage AI gens?

[Anonymous No.6692093]

>>6692082
That one is cool
Tracing and animating AI, makes it compatible with both Copyright and Fair Use

[Anonymous No.6692146]

>>6690729
What are the chances this will not be regulated into olbivion

[Anonymous No.6692227]

>>6692146
>spam hundreds every day
>make a loud noise, calling artists obsolete/luddite
>refuse using the right tags

Only way to escape regulation is to not be worth the enforcement. Seeing as how they ruin every place they post in make their tears worth the effort

[Anonymous No.6692229]

>>6690733
top right makes me giggle because of the scuffed legs

[Anonymous No.6692299]

>>6691801
>true aichads don't care about what people think about their skills
You're in this thread trying to defend a machine's honor.

[Anonymous No.6692332]

I want to see who ever did this. What for. Have humans not achieved enough. Why do we need robots to copy us? I just watched a human dead lift 600 pounds.

[Anonymous No.6692334]

>it takes years of training to reach progress

What if there was a technique that put individuals in their natural habitatation.

[Anonymous No.6692335]

>>6692332
Humanity will be extinct before long anyways, well deserved, let the next sapient species learn from humanity's hubris.

[Anonymous No.6692363]

>>6692335
They did, after emerging from under ground.

[Anonymous No.6692579]

What's India's law on AI?

[Anonymous No.6692590]

>>6691836
>es, it can be abstracted as a slot machine. why does that matter? generating art gives you the time to do other things.
>people should have the freedom to invest their skills into whatever they want, such as programming and writing. there is no law that says they have to exclusively work on making art themselves.

[Anonymous No.6692688]

>>6690729
>Japan: AI art is now CRIMINALIZED
Another misguided, badly translated bait shitpost.
Meantime Nintendo Switch, a Japanese console is getting more and more games using AI art and writing and they're hitting chart lists.

[Anonymous No.6692689]

>>6692688
>w-w-we won't get banned this time

[Anonymous No.6692691]

>>6692689
who are you quoting?

[Anonymous No.6692693]

>>6692691
Every single monetized platform

[Anonymous No.6692704]

>>6692688
lol

[Anonymous No.6692718]

>shovelware puzzle game priced at around 2$
I'm sure the industry is shaking rn. you are correct, two or three from one is "more and more". you're being yourself misleading as the studio hit lists before, not thanks to AI and we might see it have a detrimental effect in the long run.
tldr; you're reaching bro

[Anonymous No.6692728]

>>6692718
Most definitely gonna get banned soon for the same reasons that pixiv and patreon banned them

Spam
Money Laundering
Copyright infringement

[Anonymous No.6692733]

AIsisters...even Japan doesn't like us

[Anonymous No.6692734]

>>6690760
You are getting better every time toilet-kun

[Anonymous No.6692751]

>>6690729
japs being based as usual!
just like the good old times of ming dynasty...

[Anonymous No.6692759]

>>6690729
S-surely it's over for AI now! I won't get replace-ACK

[Anonymous No.6692760]

>>6692759
cope more pajeet

[Anonymous No.6692762]

>>6692760
Sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of AI winning.
Now, write a cope reply now. Tell me "money isn't real" or "just draw" and make another thread on /ic/ how you're burned out and can't draw anything good.

[Anonymous No.6692766]

kek, clinging to any small victory

[Anonymous No.6692769]

>>6692759
>make thread on /v/ get shat on
>the only positive posts are obvious falseflags
>you know what? better repost on /ic/

[Anonymous No.6692803]

So much butthurt lately it is getting into buttdeath territory

[Anonymous No.6692824]

>>6692803
ikr? Aifags are really desperate for a "win"

[Anonymous No.6692841]

AIbros...
We lost...

[Anonymous No.6692857]

>>6692759
>pay $5000 highest tier, including "your likeness in the game" (before even Dalle was a thing)
>receive AI generated portrait made in 10 seconds via img2img
I would be royally pissed. I'd be crazy for spending 5k, but shit man, cyan are scum.

[Anonymous No.6692861]

>>6692857
Why? You don't pay for "a handdrawn portrait of yourself in the game" but for a "your likeness" in the game. Plus, the latter gives better results and allows you to redirect the resources into other areas, such as gameplay.

[Anonymous No.6692874]

>>6692861
Shills are actual robots. Holy shit

[Anonymous No.6692884]

>>6692874
You're the only one here talking like a robot. A cycle of seethe and buzzwords, with not a single reasonable, logical post. Like a badly denoised data.

[Anonymous No.6692896]

>>6692759
how is this a win for ai? everyone fucking despises the devs for using it

[Anonymous No.6692905]

>>6692896
people hated horse armor dlc, and now everyone loves DLC. There's not a single big game released in the past decade without DLC. It's a process.

[Anonymous No.6692924]

>>6692905
>now everyone loves DLC.
no, everyone hates it still, but it's just silly to not expect dlc now a days.
>>6692884
2/10

[Anonymous No.6692994]

>>6692759
https://twitter.com/MAiJiNTHEARTIST/status/1658691180077674496/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1658691180077674496&currentTweetUser=MAiJiNTHEARTIST

"The artists cope"
>USCO stated clearly that you aren't allowed to use AI shit, AI shits are not copyrightable nor protected, and has told every AI shits that begged for fair used to get fucked
>Sam Altman is getting slapped left and right on Senator level court room, where the judges don't even buy his "open-sourced" "for the people" "only for research" bullshit and already warned him to scrub the data, artists should be asked to opt in and compensated fairly everytime someone generate a content based on their name
>Emad turns out to be a fraud, a hedge fund manager who doesn't even study anything AI related and Stable Diffusion wasn't even made by his companies
>Almost every art related platform banned AI generated art because AI niggers can't stop having imposter syndrome and chimping out.
>Japan doing this
Meanwhile, the AI "wins"
>Gloating about making generic AI slops on art websites and how much money they made, get banned
>shovelwares 2d puzzles and dating VN
>Phone game
>Companies on their last leg and couldn't hire anyone so they cheap out to use AI generated contented to milk the last drop of money
>Lazy NGMI who gave up on art and thought that he could get away with it with making AI slop for the remake of Duke Nukem on an obscure console that only Europe can play, get caught anyway and get replaced
>This game Firmanent, where even before announcing that they used AI generated content, people already noticed the absolute dip in quality compares to the first game, the nonsensical story and the low quality portrait running through img2img, now that the news of using AI coming out, people feels cheated, mixed review on steam.
If the definition of "win" by you AI niggers, is that AI generated content is a trademark of lazy, generic, low quality shit that can only fly as small time scam then yeah, you won.

[Anonymous No.6693008]

>>6692994
This some Caligula ordering his soldiers to attack the sea level of delusion. You can't stop it, it's done.

[Anonymous No.6693010]

>>6693008
>n-nuh uh
Typical

[Anonymous No.6693015]

>>6693008
It's ok, just accept the L. You're wasting your breath trying to gaslight because no one takes you seriously. I guess you could say the genie is out of the bottle. :)

[Anonymous No.6693017]

Reminder to stop replying to AI niggers, just compile all their cope into a single jpeg for the end of the year and just post it every time they post anything

[Anonymous No.6693033]

>>6692994
Thanks for the summary anon. Doing god's work. I don't have an issue with AI per se - it's when people act like they were the ones who personally made it, let alone trying to monetize it, is when it crosses the line. Otherwise nobody would rightly care. Hell, I've fucked around with it just to see what ridiculous outputs I could generate.

[Anonymous No.6693493]

>>6692905
horse armor dlc was microsoft's fault (or xbox specifically). read about it.

[Anonymous No.6693499]

>>6693008
Do you feel in charge?

[Anonymous No.6693508]

>>6692759
Funders are pissed because they're retards who don't know anything about 3D workflow.

[Anonymous No.6693511]

>>6693508
What does AI have to do with ""3d workflows""? Nothing, retard.

[Anonymous No.6693525]

>>6693511
>What does AI have to do with ""3d workflows""?
Retard

[Anonymous No.6693532]

>>6693511
https://youtu.be/6DIEZhk_ES8
Actual AAA 3d is like 90% ai now

[Anonymous No.6693539]

>>6693511
If you knew all the ways that can be utilized to finish a project quicker and how those methods are normalized and encourage, then you would see drawing the line at AI is completely arbitrary. I don't see anyone bitching about Unreal 5.2's Procedural Content Generation framework nor ML deformers. And this is isn't even proprietary level shit you only get access to at big studios.

Nobody even cares that it's standard practice to trace in 3D. Pretty much every educational resource will teach you to do that. All this phony outrage is complete gay.

[Anonymous No.6693552]

>>6691764
you are retarded.
>>6691449
no shit, they dont need a law to do this.
though why anyone here would defend copywrite protection is beyond me. It exists merely to screw you all over and keep you from monetizing works that should have been in the public domain for decades.

[Anonymous No.6693555]

>>6691333
no, its purely a case of people being mad they have less marketable skills. they dont care about or have a moral arguement. if they claim they do they are lying through their teeth.

[Anonymous No.6693556]

>>6691677
fair use is not a thing in japan.
>>6691670
you cant even legally draw fanart. Nobody is going to be able to stop you from generating and posting a png regardless. but you obviously cant sell it.

[Anonymous No.6693559]

>>6691874
>dumb retard I replied to is just as dumb as the other retard hes replying too
again
fair use doesn't fucking exist in japan
>>6692047
better not be using photoshop then faggot.

[Anonymous No.6693564]

>muh copyright
>muh money
Art is now essentially free
Copyright can't stop you from personal use

[Anonymous No.6693566]

>>6693539
they have to keep it out of our hands because a free lance artist who isn't knee bent could use AI as a production line to create a real product and get huge lightning in a bottle fame and fortune over it. they don't even have to make too much money, just the number of heads turned would be enough of a problem for the deep state.

[Anonymous No.6693567]

>>6692861
>pay 5k for something this stupid
>in a 3d vidjagame aping tripple A graphics
throwing monopoly money into a firepit and getting mad about it.

[Anonymous No.6693615]

>>6693532
>>6693539
>>6693566
You stupid fucking AI shills, this shit is an actual tools, meanwhile the thing every artists, animators, writers, actors are fighting against replacement, shitty companies practices scraping and using other's people data without consent or compensation, not your knee deep, toys of the week total "big" update of the same bloated shit that now relies even more on your hardware instead of the compression quality of the software, god damn do you retards even watch your own sources? 3d as a posing tool and planning tool has been a thing since Hayao Miyazaki, procedurally generated stuff is nothing new either, both of them are not AI tools that have been hidden from the public that will shake the balance of the deepstate, everyone can use this. Holy fuck you don't even work in the industry, you don't even draw, you know jack shit and spout all this sewage garbage like you know everything.

[Anonymous No.6693628]

>>6690729
I couldnt take a person seriously if I learned they paid any amount of money for a AI shit they themselves could have made in 5 minutes. Pick up your pencils you lazy AI fucks and get back to the grind.

[Anonymous No.6693633]

Art belongs to the people now. Not the moralists and the gatekeepers.

[Anonymous No.6693637]

>>6693615
The unreal stuff is ai

[Anonymous No.6693638]

>>6693615
>kit bashing and putting touch ups on base meshes are just tools bro
>smart materials and quixel mega scans are just tools bro
>VDM and IMM brushes are just tools bro
>WOAH YOU USED AI TO FILL IN SOME GAPS INSTEAD OF OUTSOURCING TO PAJEET WHO CAN'T EVEN GET THE CORRECT GRAPHICS DESIGN AFTER A 1000 GACHA ROLLS IN PHOTOSHOP?!? THAT'S CROSSING THE LINE
Just stop. You're not going to survive the times. AI will be packed into the software and your will accept it for one reason or another. If you don't then younger people will just like how the cancer that is social media was normalized. Even Daz stopped pretending they're not a Dark Souls character creation screen and is implementing AI. If you're a digital artist then you have no room to act surprised.

[Anonymous No.6693639]

>>6690729
>If these AI-generated works are found to be significantly similar or dependent on existing copyrighted works, the copyright holder has the right to take LEGAL ACTION
Basically it's the basic copyright laws applied to art and every other type of creation being applied to AI, no-news news

[Anonymous No.6693647]

>>6693633

[Anonymous No.6693648]

>>6693615
>You stupid fucking AI shills, this shit is an actual tools, meanwhile the thing every artists, animators, writers, actors are fighting against replacement,
you aren't, you are fighting FOR your replacement
>B-b-but big gibsmedat i mean gubmint is gonna save us from le evil coreporeayshuns with laws
you ought to be sterilized so the human race doesn't have to deal with you.

[Anonymous No.6693649]

>>6693647
pypaperw, drawlet

[Anonymous No.6693651]

>>6693647
>implying gate the gate keeping cost isn't time
do you know how many hours I'm giving up right now just to learn how to make linux stop fucking dying every 2 seconds because I updated a thing?

[Anonymous No.6693653]

>>6693648
It is time for the human race to step aside.

[Anonymous No.6693655]

Inevitable

[Anonymous No.6693662]

>>6693648
the reason your head isnt on a spike is because of the government protecting you

[Anonymous No.6693665]

>>6693633
aight anon but what spectrum are we dealing with. Will you you include those 5 and under as well

[Anonymous No.6693667]

>>6693662
>T-the government is protecting me
lmao
you are a fucking retard. governments do not look out for you. full stop. you are alive because its too expensive to kill you. simple as.

[Anonymous No.6693671]

>>6693667
>t. sheltered suburban cumskin

[Anonymous No.6693688]

>>6693671
goverment is literally burning people out of their homes right now city slicker. they poisoned an entire country side and made it illegal for any of the employees working in the train industry to complain about it. you're a dumb gorilla nigger who is fighting for them to replace you.

[Anonymous No.6693695]

>>6693688
Must really suck to be from India than

[Anonymous No.6693703]

>>6693695
thats america you dumb retard.

[Anonymous No.6693706]

>>6693703
shut the fuck up poojeet

[Anonymous No.6693714]

>>6693706
>dumb kike screetching poojeet
>dumps toxic waste into thousands of acres of organic farmland using union busted railroad workers to damage the health of working people who do not engage in corporate capitalism
>licks the boots of administrations completely responsible for deliberately establishing tinderboxes and then deliberately setting them on fire to destroy the country side
>first in line to be injected with experimental drugs shown to kill people to protect a bioweapon created by the US glowniggers specifically to target citizens.
>first to cry out based when the government prints 4/5ths of all money ever printed in order to give 80% of it to corporate giants so he can get his 20% stimmy check uwu
surely the government will protect you.
surely you will not be judged. you are chosen after all. Maybe you better swing another chicken just in case.

[Anonymous No.6693724]

>>6693714
Not surprised an ai shitter is sperging out like this.

[Anonymous No.6693734]

>>6691764
Wow you must be the new retard of the week

[Anonymous No.6693749]

>>6693714
what colored Koolaid do you prefer drinking anon

[Anonymous No.6693782]

>>6693651
You could use a non retarded operating system and learn to draw with all that time you're wasting then, looks like you figured it out!

[Anonymous No.6693808]

>>6693749
The kind not made with toxic sludge
>>6693782
>you could just not be poor
amazing learn. the people who hate AI the most are pajeetOS users.

[Anonymous No.6694025]

>>6693552
>>6693734
lol lmao
https://www.greataiprompts.com/imageprompt/how-to-generate-ai-prompts-from-images/

Yes, the model can be reversed and dismantled
In fact, I played with a BETA version of it. I just can't find it, yet.
Should make front page once it's out of beta

[Anonymous No.6694027]

>>6694025
>hot linking to some paywall garbage you presumably pay for
Jesus christ what a fag
>t-the ai can tag the images!
you fucking moron, of course it can. I literally got a semi abandoned tagging system out of deep danbooru for an image database I found on github specifically for this feature.

[Anonymous No.6694028]

>>6694027
better than you linking to a litteraly who's Ai user obscure youtube channel.

[Anonymous No.6694029]

>>6694027
First off, that's not paywall, retard
Just click outside the notification

Secondly, that's not a tag
That's searching for the prompt used for the AI

But point is, your model is not a black box. It can be dismantled for evidence...easily

[Anonymous No.6694032]

>>6694028
I linked to someone whos anti ai you mouthbreathing scrubber
watch the video.
>>6694029
>just go out of your way
no.
>t-thats not a tag
that is what a tag is retard
>but the point is your model isn';t a black box
you aren't going to get the input out of the output anymore than you're going to take shit and reconstitute the food you ate. it's a binary learning model not an archive of images.

[Anonymous No.6694034]

>>6694032
Suuuuuree

Go ahead.
Make prompts out of Disney shit
And be big enough of a target

Your copyright infringement totally cannot be proven afterall.
LMAO

[Anonymous No.6694036]

>>6694034
I don't want to target bizney because they don't have anything I want. but don't worry. I am targeting a western company. Not that I think they're dangerous or something. None the less ai will only take me so far. it's good at conceptual design and certain tasks, but it's not going to do pixel art or code my entire game for me, let alone write it. It amazes me to this day that art niggers like you want to argue that AI primarily helps fortune 500 companies more when they would never be able to make the kind of money they want to if you could just tell AI to make a better starwars movie than they can, or god forbid use it to make your own. there's a reason they don't want you to have vram unless you are pushing six figures.

Anyway I'm a poorfag so while you pointlessly grind art in your cave I'll be tardwrangling my potatos until they can run docker and we'll both be nowhere for it.

[Anonymous No.6694039]

>>6694036
tl;dr
*yawn*

Someone's going to do it
And they shall be made an example for every one of you - like a corpse hanging at the gallows
I can't wait

[Anonymous No.6694040]

>>6694032
just needed confirmation of your cross-thread rambling. and after a cursory look, it clearly is a low-tier artist who became a doomer and jumped on the AI train.

[Anonymous No.6694043]

>>6694039
>theyre going to make an example of someone
of course they will, have to make sure only the big companies are "allowed" to use AI. you'll cheer them on like the dumb sheep you are. meanwhile companies will hand over money to adobe for their ai loisance and you'll still be penniless.

[Anonymous No.6694045]

>>6694043
Move goalpost as far as the witch in the loo tells you to poo

[Anonymous No.6694046]

>>6694039
won't even need to prove copyright violation in input material, just prove AI is used disproportionately and poof, no copyright, no green.

[Anonymous No.6694047]

>>6694040
>noo don't post in more than one thread on the board
implying you aren't doing the same
most of the actual artists in this board user timer chan and have these troll threads on filters because they aren't ngmi begs.
anyway
>muh special pleading
>muh adhominem
do you have any arguement against his statement or are you going to just sit there seething and coping that I didn't link some ai fag.

[Anonymous No.6694048]

>>6694045
>y-you're going to move goal posts
what goalposts have been moved? You cannot get the original source images out of a model, that doesn't mean they wont find a way to pin something on someone. A leak, a (((whistleblower))), etc. The goal of course is to make styles themselves copywritable and put anyone who even emulates the feel of a work out of business. artistic genres will become copywritable thanks to you retards and your crusade against your own self interests.

But then, you cant ever get a commie to listen to sense, so why would you retards ever be any different on this?

[Anonymous No.6694049]

>>6694048
Oh, so it's not hell to prove afterall
*yawn*

Your words are moot
You are not going anywhere

If you use AI, you have no copyright and you already lost the ground

[Anonymous No.6694050]

>>6694043
ah yes, the "only big corpo will win, think of the little guy". if boundaries for AI input/output aren't set however those same companies will win anyway. which is why the focus is currently more on regulating the commercial use of AI-generated content. it bypasses the issue, if ideally little guy can use it recreationally and big corpo can't use it commercially.

[Anonymous No.6694051]

>>6694049
complete retard
>you already lost
copyright should die immediately. I would kill AI forever to have it gone. but you retards are too short sighted and will never understand how much damage it has done to creativity.
>>6694050
> if boundaries for AI input/output aren't set however those same companies will win anyway
they will win and you will get access to a tool you didn't have or they will win and you WONT get access to a tool you didn't have. Simple as. If you have a problem with that you can move the topic from /ic/ to /pol/ or the darknet because nothing about the fact I just stated is going to change unless you become a terrorist irl and not in minecraft.

[Anonymous No.6694052]

>>6694051

[Anonymous No.6694054]

>>6694047
I'm just pointing you out as the little attention whore you are :^)
>ad hominem
just stating what I see, he's rationalizing in order to use AI.
>do you have any arguement
me and others brought some forward, you chose to reply like a fith-grader and go on whataboutisms, name calling and just dismiss without argument so...learn to read?

[Anonymous No.6694055]

>>6694052
>he thinks I'm going to be the one crying when you are automated out of existance once regulations make sure only the "right" people can use AI for financial gain.

[Anonymous No.6694056]

>>6694055
*banned*

[Anonymous No.6694058]

>>6694054
you've brought forth zero arguements whatsoever. your entire arguement is special pleading and delusional fantasy. Government is the arm and hammer of the corporations. It will do what benefits them not you. No ammount of posturing and pleading and dunking on chuds will change that.

[Anonymous No.6694062]

>>6694051
>tool
flawed premise.
>they will win
only if everyone is a little doomer like you, bends over and doesn't fight back. but in my scenario they can't make use of ai commercially, you're arguing based on your two defined scenarios and not the one I put forward

[Anonymous No.6694065]

>>6694062
>only if everyone is a little doomer like you, bends over and doesn't fight back.
unless your plan is to start killing bankers until there aren't any left you don't have a plan
>but in my scenario they can't make use of ai commercially
your scenario isn't a scenario. it's a fantasy like communist utopias. The government exists to limit your rights and expand that of the elite and rich. It will not in any way do anything to put the power of thumbscrew on them.
>you need to take the position that my fantasy is a possibility
you have yet to provide any evidence that it is anything more than delusions of grandeur. Every decision from our government for the last 100+ years has been to benefit a very select body of people and to limit and destroy the rights and livelyhood of anyone outside that clique. Find me some evidence to the contrary to back up your outrageous claims.

[Anonymous No.6694067]

>>6694058
again, learn to read on the several threads you shit, or use chatgpt to summarize it for you. because you're just yelling "regulation X bad, all regulations bad always ever so there should be none". I advocate for a winning scenario, you prefer to pick which of the losing ones you want. I won't humor you furyher, I don't need to as you refuse to consider anything outside of your preconceived losing scenarios. keep malding

[Anonymous No.6694069]

>>6694065
>your scenario isn't a scenario.
proving my point, last (You), I await your bomb threats toward your nearest government building, mr 1st-year philosophy emo dropout

[Anonymous No.6694070]

>>6693532
There's no AI in this video you absolute retard.
Or you mean to imply any algorithm is AI?

[Anonymous No.6694073]

>>6694067
>again, learn to read on the several threads you shit,
again, learn to read in the several threads you retard.
>use a controlled AI to name the jew
lol lmao.
you already made my point for me.
>because you're just yelling "regulation X bad, all regulations bad always ever so there should be none".
regulations ALWAYS benefit the winners you fucking retard. that's the entire point of them. The only time they have ever helped anyone ouitside that was a total accident or because of massive violent uprisings.
>I advocate for a winning scenario,
you are not advocating for a winning scenario, you are either a kike advertising a cliff over a lava pit as a bridge or someone so inhumanly stupid you think you can actually walk over air.
>>6694069
>18 year old seething and still has no argument other than "well what if that toddler does beat the 300 lb weight lifter"

[Anonymous No.6694151]

>>6690733
AI still demoralises me but at least the suffering of bottom feeders makes a little less painful

[Anonymous No.6694157]

>>6693555
>less marketable skills
Capitalism has rotted your brain.

[Anonymous No.6694180]

>>6694157
>durr ur capitalist because I dont like you
communism has rotted yours.

[Anonymous No.6694300]

gee golly, someone got his knickers in a twist

[Anonymous No.6694499]

This is great, but gooks are already doings trad paintings after AI. Where do we stand on this?

[Anonymous No.6694500]

>>6694499
another example

[Anonymous No.6694504]

>>6694499
This will be an interesting show to watch for 2023-2025

Will the NU-NU AI attitude of our lord and savior GLORIOUS NIHON win???

Or will the NewAge Koreans who try to incorporate whatever they can win???

*grabs popcorn*

[Anonymous No.6694507]

>>6694500
didn't know this was a thing. You can tell it's painted after AI, just by looking at the compositions alone.

[Anonymous No.6694521]

>>6694499
It would face similar derision to tracing

[Anonymous No.6694529]

>>6694521
sure but how can you tell? it will be increasingly hard to discern AI, let alone someone who's drawing after an AI generated image.
You can tell by this guy's work that he doesn't have a style, it's all inconsistent. picrel

[Anonymous No.6694532]

>>6694529
You can hide it, it's just a matter of when, just like tracers, you can hide you trace but then people will end up getting suspicious, happened to Kushinov.

[Anonymous No.6694538]

>>6694529
First and foremost:
The biggest sign that someone uses AI goes straight to their activity.
Do you make hundreds a week?
Boom! Red Flag.

Secondly:
Crime does not pay
It's always a matter of when you will be caught. You will be lucky if you learned your lesson fast.
If you got away with it for years, all those years of profit would suddenly vanish and you will not just restart at square 1. No, your entire name will be blacklisted

[Anonymous No.6694542]

>>6694532
Didn't Kushinov still end up successful commercially and/or professionally anyway with being involved with that Cyberpunk anime? (unless there's a development I'm not aware of)

[Anonymous No.6694543]

>>6694538
>your entire name will be blacklisted
Like if they found out you posted on 4chan?

[Anonymous No.6694556]

>>6694542
That's because he could actually draw but the taint of being a tracer isn't coming off.

[Anonymous No.6694560]

>>6692688
>Nintendo allows adult games now

WTF

[Anonymous No.6694811]

>>6690729
tl;dr, so it's not AI art that banned, it's just the copyright issue, they can still use that non-copyright AI released by photoshop

[Anonymous No.6694842]

>>6692905
diablo 4 is mocked since release for paid horse armor. people still hate it, but a lot of addicts and retards will pay for it, just like they paid for oblivion horse armor
>It's a process
a process for what? it's very fitting you used horse armor as an example. it's a process for degeneracy and ruin

[Anonymous No.6695280]

Japs are doing pretty cool things with AI

[Anonymous No.6695302]

>>6695280
>hes says this showing basic anime girl #54689

[Anonymous No.6695313]

>>6695280
stealing art is never cool, piratejeet.

[Anonymous No.6695322]

You are simply the latest in a long line of people displaced by automation
When factory workers were replaced by massive machines people called it "unskilled labour"
Then desk jobs and sorting jobs got replaced by computer with all kinds of software and people said "learn to code"

Meanwhile creatives sat smugly in their corners.
Their work is requires REAL skill, right? They can't be replaced by automation.
The stuff AI produces doensn't have SOUL, right?

The consoomers do not have the high standards that you do
They will happily eat up whatever AI churns out
Compare AI slop to what it was one year before and what it is now, then imagine what it will be like one year from now

Either learn to use the tool or be replaced by it

You all know what will happen when bossman has to pick between employee A who has submitted to using AI to increase their productivity and employee B who hasn't

Commissions will dry up as people settle for AI and artists will take on non-art day jobs if they haven't already
All this during a time when the cost-of-living is increasing by the day.
Pure art will be relegated to a hobby or something only few are willing to afford and created by even fewer.

Go join the rest of the displaced craftsmen who sit at home and complain while people satisfy themselves with inferior goods for a tenth of the price.

You are the carpenter before the arrival of IKEA.

[Anonymous No.6695325]

>>6695322
Not reading your chatgpt slop

[Anonymous No.6695337]

>>6695322
What’s with the chat gpt responses?

[Anonymous No.6695341]

>>6694543
name (one) artist who got blacklisted for posting on 4chan.

[Anonymous No.6695388]

>>6691118
based japan

[Anonymous No.6695515]

>>6695341
I have a personal blacklist I use

[Anonymous No.6695668]

>>6695322
didn't read retard

Ask to resume it to a single line next time.

[Anonymous No.6695680]

>>6695322
>Then desk jobs and sorting jobs got replaced by computer with all kinds of software and people said "learn to code"
You tech bugmen are the ones who said it, not us.

[Anonymous No.6695721]

>>6695322

[Anonymous No.6695730]

>>6695313
Why is /ic/ so unfunny?

[Anonymous No.6695758]

By the time anyone finds out you are using AI your creative ambitions are dead and buried.

Pretty fucking hilarious seeing idiots killing their own relevancy by openly proclaiming to use AI thinking it will eventually be accepted, that the bar will be lowered so that they can be included, it won't, people will refund you, they will spread bad word of mouth, they will happily pirate your work instead of giving you any money because if you used AI, why the fuck would anyone pay for that?

AI was over before it even begun, and after regulation, nobody will even remember it even existed, it will join the place of scam techs like cryptocurrency , NFTs and metaverse.

[Anonymous No.6695851]

>>6695758
The AI is only being regulated in the creative fields. It's not however being regulated in other industries, specifically office & IT jobs. It is already being use to replace alot of those jobs. Creative chads have nothing to worry about. Code monkeys on the other hand may soon be out of a job.

[Anonymous No.6695862]

aisisters not like this...

[Anonymous No.6695928]

>>6695322
>Go join the rest of the displaced craftsmen who sit at home and complain while people satisfy themselves with inferior goods for a tenth of the price.

I know one carpenter who chopped off both of his hands in an incident at work, as much as it sucks that automation in replacing their craft with shitty goods you can't argue that carpenting can be a very physically demanding job and potentially life threatening. Now AI is about to start replacing some of the dream tier jobs and all that will be left will be physically demanding and life threatening jobs. Something has to be done about it at some point, either by regulating this technology or by shedding some fucking blood. People will be pissed.

[Anonymous No.6695952]

>>6695851
>creative fields.
wtf?

[Anonymous No.6696418]

>>6695680
It's strange. All my life people told me to get a real job, everyone keeps cracking joke at art as a career. And now techjeets flip out at the mere thought of someone not hating their job as much as they do and not wanting it to be automated, while coming up with this weird strawman shit. Suddenly art is oh so valuable and artfags are part of some fucking elite cabal deserving to be toppled for the greater good of humanity.
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't wishing for comeuppance for them.

[Anonymous No.6696496]

>>6691801
>rude and disrespectful
What is rude and disrespectful is taking what took a man hundreds of hours and soullessly spawning hundreds of inferior copies, devaluing it.

[Anonymous No.6696510]

>>6695515
ok but you didn't name one..

[Anonymous No.6696536]

>>6696418
techfags are akin to parasites where there is money to be made they are going to infest it and spread themselves; as a few examples
>cryptos
>nfts
As nft were shilled, the board got spammed with shit about
>"wow look at how much money you can make with nfts don't you want to invest in nfts? just buy crypto, fellow artists"
Which then the whole thing was outed as yet another grift
Now it's the same with AI.
They saw artists and especially pornfags making lots of money and wanted a piece of the pie and they thought they could just get the same results by generating anime titties, only to end up botting their own accounts and spamming their shit everywhere.
What they don't know is that pornfag's earnings aren't genuine, as much as most of the big patreon accounts raking in big numbers.

If at least they would make themselves useful and help uncover that, i'd be willing to overlook their faggotry and inane spam, but all they really are is just no draw begs who think they found the secret formula and now they're going to get rich and famous and get worshipped as artists.

The average art career is either working as a drawslave and never earning enough money to even pay rent, whether as a freelancer/pornfag/studiomonkey or just commit to money laundering, which then you might as well just do something that doesn't require you to have an online presence.
Only the 1% of artists really makes a career out of it and 99% of the time, they cheated to get where they are, whether through illegal means, nepotism or other stuff that ain't honest.
Ah well, it's not that normies even give a shit about honesty as long as they can fill their own bellies.
You can see AIniggers inflitrating the arts as a consequence of the arts constantly playing dirty games.
AIshitters might be annoying, but artists aren't saints either.

[Anonymous No.6696542]

>>6696418
Yet those same tech shitters would call artist egotistical and it’s ironic that tech shitters are one of the most ego manic fucks out there. Closing to blue collar workers and doctors.

[Anonymous No.6696548]

>>6696536
I’m sure you heard of a hack grandblue artist is using ai for his “artwork” now and all the positive comments on each post are ai shills, accounts, and bots.

[Anonymous No.6696551]

>>6696418
Stemfags have a permanent inferiority and superiority complex.

[Anonymous No.6696559]

>>6694556
Okay but apparently it has 0 effect so who cares?

[Anonymous No.6696561]

>>6696548
No i did not, to be honest.
>and all the positive comments on each post are ai shills, accounts, and bots.
Of course, they have to "appear legitimate and loved" in public or else the average consumer might not care to also try to belong and like what "everyone else" likes.
It's all psy-ops and propaganda 101; you wouldn't question anything if a majority of people only praised it, would you? The average normie doesn't or only has an emotional reaction to it.

[Anonymous No.6696568]

>>6696561
>No i did not, to be honest.
Ok, well here’s a screenshot on what i meant.

[Anonymous No.6696578]

Still not going to hire an artist to make art for my dream game
Want to accuse me of using AI for art? Go ahead and prove it. :)

[Anonymous No.6696596]

>>6695322
>You are the carpenter before the arrival of IKEA.
I bought 90% of my furniture from a carpenter, only 10% is from IKEA. a nightstand for my tarantula. not filling my house with that slop. it was expensive true, but at least my furniture is aesthetic and not made out of shitty pressed wood

[Anonymous No.6696614]

>>6696578
you're not gonna make anything, art or games

[Anonymous No.6696615]

>>6696536
>AIshitters might be annoying, but artists aren't saints either.
and that's precisely why we don't need to deal with this bullshit in addition to how bad this industry could get kek

[Anonymous No.6696726]

>>6693555
100% this, it's so painfully obvious, it's very funny to watch the cope and buildup of righteous indignation when you can see plain as day the actual problem

[Anonymous No.6696729]

>>6695322
FUCKING DELETE THIS RACIST SHIT RIGHT NOW YOUR FUCKING PAJEET

[Anonymous No.6696782]

>the actual problem
the exploitation of data they don't own? the absolute lack of context to properly curate their collages?

[Anonymous No.6696804]

>>6695322
>You are the carpenter before the arrival of IKEA.
The analogy isn't quite there, because people need furniture, but they do not need works of art.

Maybe like a small batch soda brewer before mass produced soda.
Will some people pay $5 a bottle for your artisanal rootbeer? Maybe, but way WAY more are just buying a 12 pack of sugar water for a couple bucks.

[Anonymous No.6696813]

>>6696726
I agree. theres nothing wrong with hating corporations, but the commie sickness has wormed their way into too many fARTIsts to understand that the corporations are going to get their AI no matter what they do and how many tantrums they pull, just like when occupy wall street became about racial and minority equity every rich persons portfolio started going back up uninterrupted because of their stupid movement destroying glownigger bullshit.

[Anonymous No.6696822]

>>6696804
>The analogy isn't quite there, because people need furniture, but they do not need works of art.
actually they do. not because they "do" but because our brain tells us we do via dopamine addiction. And it seems to be a normal human instinct regardless, down to tribes of 80 iq nignogs patting rocks and singing kumbaya. everyone has their storytellers and artists. further more, because real tangible assets are out of reach for 80% of the population, we dont reallyu have anything left to spend our money on BUT art. Cheap digital art has become the underappreciated and overlooked real bread and circuses for a while now. why do you think in this age of overt control the government wont take away torrents? it would be like the emperor burning down his own colosseum because people would sneak in for free.

[Anonymous No.6696828]

>>6696568
>>6696561
>>6696548

>>6696536
>techfags are akin to parasites where there is money to be made they are going to infest it and spread themselves; as a few examples
you are misunderstanding jews and pajeets for actual tech enthusiasts. like confusing mac using pajeets on /biz/ with /g/ or /ml;p/
imagine being this retarded
>The average art career is either working as a drawslave and never earning enough money to even pay rent, whether as a freelancer/pornfag/studiomonkey or just commit to money laundering, which then you might as well just do something that doesn't require you to have an online presence.
sounds like a useful thing to be able to do in this day and age of IRS being turboniggers
>>6696568
can you explain his process? I've always like that Final fantasy copycat look he does. if there's a way to use ai to render most of it from linart that would be based. I'm pretty much permabeg, but 80% of my beg is coloring.

[Anonymous No.6696843]

what is up with AI faggots and coming up with the worst strawman imaginable every single time

[Anonymous No.6696848]

>>6696843
>no argument
>no post
what is with fArtists always seething over some problem theyre actively engaged in making worse and then crying strawman when they cant argue their way out of it.

[Anonymous No.6696862]

>>6696615
But as much as AIniggers are annoying, artists have only themselves to blame for ATTRACTING them.
>create a sphere full of cheating, lying and sociopathy for the sake of self-profit disguised as a hugbox
>"wow why is our sphere suddenly being invaded by more cheating, lying sociopaths trying to self-profit who hugbox each other?"
Artniggers didn't give a shit to actually maintain a healthy sphere, but only cared about gorging themselves on clout and patreonbux like the greedy trannies they are.
These are simply the consequences of those actions and the environment they created.
>but WE
Nah nigga there ain't no WE.

You have to understand that this shit ain't getting better until artists really start acting like a WE and not out of convenience against a common enemy but with the ultimate goal of self-profit; since why are most artists against AI? Because it's gonna take their chances to get rich and social media famous away, with the pretense of
>AI is unethical and it steals n shiet
The "WE", don't give a shit about the arts, but only about their own prospects of self-profit.

AIfags have some points here and there and their mockery is highly effective because they call out ugly truths about the modern artists who tries so desperately to have a squeaky clean public image, while doing shit he shouldn't do when no one's looking.

tldr It's exactly because the plate is already full of shit that everyone just keeps shitting in it, yet no one deigns themselves to clean it up, least they'll be unable to get their 2 followers and 5 likes for the day.

[Anonymous No.6696956]

>>6696536
You are just actually coping hardcore if you think NFTs and cryptos, two objectively useless valueless piece of shit inventions, are on the same planet as a new tech invention so good it literally has writers protesting in the streets.

Like, it would be so easy to argue that AI art is popular because it creates stuff easily that's on the level of the top 5% of artists, and you think it's all totally just a grift bro nobody likes AI art it's all bots and shills just bury your head in the sand with your 8 views and 2 likes

[Anonymous No.6696994]

>>6696956
Yeah, so good it is banned on all monetized platforms

The fact that it has no copyright makes it valueless
The fact that it has no fair use makes it detrimental

[Anonymous No.6697011]

>>6696956
>it creates stuff easily that's on the level of the top 5% of artists
*it degrades stuff made by the top 5% artists

[Anonymous No.6697020]

>>6696536
>pornfag's earnings aren't genuine
Huh?
Degenerate bucks are real. My most popular works are porn

[Anonymous No.6697023]

>New cope of "t's actually the le gay artiste's fault that AI exists"
Alright I'll give it to you AIttroons, maybe you are creative.

[Anonymous No.6697027]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC2IUph2B28

[Anonymous No.6697029]

You can still use google search and you can still draw, but changes are coming. Chatgpt is much better that google, and AI is improving rapidly. Best to keep up with the new stuff. Knowing your tools regardless of your profession is a good skill.

[Anonymous No.6697034]

>>6696956
AI is useless as well and the hype around it was fake as fuck to lure in investors so that they guy who is being sued to shit could run with the money.
Art was already seen as meaningless by the masses by it's sheer modern day production and commercialized nature, now with the influx and easy generations of endless art, it will become even more meaningless than anyone could ever conceive of. What contradicts the goals of AIshitters.

NFTs+Crypto were pushed by techfags because of the money involved; AI is not any different due to the recent events and people calling it from the beginning.

What are most AIfags doing besides roleplaying as pornfags and trying to get patreonbux? Fuck all, that's what.
They're devaluing art but hoping to also become rich and famous porn artists.
That must either means that they're fucking retarded as shit and really hoped they were going to become artists with this tech, or that there is something fishy going on.

Don't lump me together with your average underage tranny retard artist who just thinks about sucking his own mutilated penis and getting clout on twitter, that i ""need to cope"", you virtual nigger.
>>6697020
Good for you, Mr Center of the Universe.

[Anonymous No.6697038]

>>6697034
No, I mean.
I am not yet successful but porn is what gives me a lot of worth
Making porn for liveable money is not a meme and I don't get why you would say that it is not genuine.

In fact, I don't see any reason why any porn artist would lie about their monetary gains. The only way to increase their funds is to either make more commissions or raise prices. Bragging money to gain money does not make sense here

[Anonymous No.6697039]

>>6697034
imagine signing AI pictures, hilarious

[Anonymous No.6697042]

>>6697039
Nah.
Guy is real
He knows 3d and 2d and mixes them regularly

[Anonymous No.6697043]

>>6696994
Because of spam issue. Wait until the apply post limit, AI art will soar again

[Anonymous No.6697047]

>>6697043
lol
>it's their fault

[Anonymous No.6697053]

>>6696956
So good that a magazine had to close submissions because they were being bombarded with proompt spam. Nonartists are getting sick of your shit too.

[Anonymous No.6697056]

>>6696862
Take your meds, schizo.

[Anonymous No.6697059]

>>6697038
And now let's assume you're not a retarded faggot and can conceive information beyond what is in front of your immediate point of view, being beneficial to and about you or being able to employ critical thinking and also able to read and comprehend the written beyond a 5th grader level.

What do you know, for a fact, that your own singular situation reflects 99.9% of all other active porn artists that make a living with that, that you present this as empirical objective evidence for your disagreement against what i say?
I never fucking died, guess death is fucking fake and a govt psyop to get funeral homes to generate taxes and harvest your organs to sell on the black market to fund military projects about blue beans and shit, right?
>I don't see any reason why any porn artist would lie about their monetary gains
Because you either lack critical thinking or are guilty of the same thing i'm mentioning.

Just imagine saying that there is a killer in the room and all of a sudden one guy stands up and starts ranting how it's not true and there is no killer; sounds pretty fucking suspicious to me.
>The only way to increase their funds is to either make more commissions or raise prices
Or open up a patreon and lie about getting commissions to ultimately launder money and fool the irs.
If you don't understand how that would work, just leave it at that, i ain't making you a tutorial.

Of course porn gets the most fucking attention, social media is filled with horny teenagers and coomers and that's what they use it for.

[Anonymous No.6697066]

>>6690733
Why is Japan constantly based?

[Anonymous No.6697067]

>>6697059
What the hell, dude
Enough with the text wall and just prove that those numbers are lie and how bragging about money gets you more money

That is scam shit that works only with influences and scammers, not artists that need their reputation

[Anonymous No.6697079]

You guys are arguing about the economics of porn? Peak /ic , indeed.

[Anonymous No.6697082]

>>6697067
>just prove that those numbers are lie
Unless i can get direct access to bank transactions, i can't prove shit, i can only speculate and make educated guesses, but neither can my theories be disproven unless we would get to look at the monetary transactions i.e. where money is coming from and where it is going.
>bragging about money gets you more money
This is your strawman, AI monkey, not mine.
Playing dumb won't help you.

Artists reputations don't mean shit because if they did, we wouldn't be here talking about new criminal fuckery every other year.

[Anonymous No.6697088]

>>6697082
I am NOT an AIfag, jesus christ
I am a fellow artist and by all means, I really don't see how that would work

[Anonymous No.6697120]

>>6697088
Ask yourself this; With so much free porn available on the internet and new porn being constantly uploaded, and so many retarded faggots wanting to become the next pornfag with 6 gorillions followers on the social media and flooding the internet with new porn every second, what incentive does the average consumer have to even shill out a penny for a product he will receive for free anyway? And now with the introduction of AI, they will have even less incentives to do that.

Unless we're talking turbo autists that comm porn of their shitty OCs, there is basically no real market but those will be the firsts who will utilize AI to generate their own shit once they get a single comm in an artists style, if they even do.

Would you think that the pornpen.ai patrons are all legit customers?
Of course not, because it's AI, right?
So, why not question all the others who are making the big bucks?

Alternatively, if you don't know, just read nigga.

[Anonymous No.6697146]

>>6697120
God, dude
You suck

First off, that picture you posted have already been proven false.
They are AI accounts and their donators have all been found to be donating 1cent per account when lowest tier is $1. They are money laundering and grifting accounts

Secondly, yes, over-saturation has always been an issue in the art world but that's not an argument to say that it is not profitable. There is a large market for pornography but the most sustaining ones are the niche fetishes filled with a small but dedicated degenerates

And thirdly, it is hard to question the big nsfw artists because their numbers are also backed with high engagements. Not to mention that those people are undeniably great at their art.

If you wanted to say that they are just lying, then YOU will have to prove it

God, you suck
Nothing but assumptions and guesses.
I thought you have serious evidence and example stories

[Anonymous No.6697150]

>>6697120
>what incentive does the average consumer have to even shill out a penny for a product he will receive for free anyway?
You're not a real coomer.
If you like tits, ass, pussy or dick, good news for you. Every single person has one of those. Every porn hits your buttons.
If you like anything different, fuck you. The more different your fetish is the less of it exists.
There's a scenario that I think is hot that I can't draw and I don't think I'll ever be able to draw in my life. It's not just a skill issue. I don't have the mindset to draw it. I'm too autistic to make it hot. If I drew it it wouldn't be hot. Something would be off.
I can tell you that there are some fetishes that virtually don't exist. You would not be able to find 10 drawings of it in the entire world
Check your normie privilege.

[Anonymous No.6697157]

>>6697042
yeah, real hack. only shit he could do was shitty cum animations of better artists than him and now he rides the AI dick like there's no tomorrow

[Anonymous No.6697164]

>>6697146
>First off, that picture you posted have already been proven false.
It's a screenshot i took right now.
https://graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/adult-drawing-painting
>There is a large market for pornography but the most sustaining ones are the niche fetishes filled with a small but dedicated degenerates
Yet we see the most successful ones are the ones who do the vannilaest vannilla shit in extra vanilla flavor.
>it is hard to question the big nsfw artists because their numbers are also backed with high engagements. Not to mention that those people are undeniably great at their art.
Yeah, why ever question anyone when they're rich and famous? Genius.
No rich and famous guy ever committed crimes or was dishonest because people loved them and they were great at the thing they did.
>YOU will have to prove it
Can't do shit unless i get to look at bank transactions, nigga.
Patreon sure as fuck doesn't give a shit about checking that shit because they make money off of it and there needs to be some plausible cause for glowies to take action or someone hacking the platform and risking jail time.
If i had hard evidence, i wouldn't waste my time discussing it here.
>>6697150
Yeah, as we see a lot of very niche fetish artists make fucking bank.
What is your fetish; penis in vagina? Penis in rectum? Wow, Anon, you da real cumcum.

[Anonymous No.6697170]

>>6697164
If you have no evidence, then maybe just shut the fuck up

[Anonymous No.6697173]

>>6697170
What makes you think that if i had evidence i would show it off in this shithole first?
Does questioning your narratives threaten you, AIfag?

[Anonymous No.6697175]

>>6697173
I am not an AIfag.
And yes, if you have evidence, you won't need to scream so much text walls

Piss off. What a waste of time

[Anonymous No.6697196]

>>6697175
The best thing about the things i say is that they will be inevitably be proven right and you're only providing more ammo for the future by making strawmen, shit arguments and overall being a faggot.

All you had to do was shutting the fuck up.
How's the AI slop going, gotten any likes and followers, fellow goy?

[Anonymous No.6697198]

>>6697196
I never used AI and your "dude, trust me" is a piece of ass
Shut the fuck up about it

[Anonymous No.6697220]

>>6697198
I can be trusted because i have nothing to gain by making shit up.
And i love to talk and expose people to new things they might not know about.

Did you know that high art is basically just money laundering for rich people and big companies buy art pieces for millions of buckeroos to have physical assets that only increase in value the longer they keep them and put them up for auction or sell them to collectors to make a fuckton of money? Now ain't that crazy.

[Anonymous No.6697267]

>>6691333
I always cared about it since I believe in merit. I have a lot of art books in my house. even so, you have no idea what copyright is you fucking retard. I'm not trying to sell their books/courses as my own work

[Anonymous No.6697272]

>>6696956
>you are just actually coping hardcore if you think NFTs and cryptos, two objectively useless valueless piece of shit inventions, are on the same planet as a new tech invention so good it literally has writers protesting in the streets
crypto, like """AI"""" gargle have both been advertised as universal solutions to all possible problems, when at best it will just be some niche in terms of its usefulness to the world. you have to be incredibly, absolutely and unquestionably retarded to believe any concept like this is possible. now every fucking retard and his mother try to shove "AI" bullshit into every new product, often times if not most times even lying about the presence of machine learning in their product. just labeling it as "AI". I've recently seen producers labeling roombas as "AI driven". you are a worthless retard for eating and propping this up
>, it would be so easy to argue that AI art is popular because it creates stuff easily that's on the level of the top 5% of artists, and you think it's all totally just a grift bro
of course it's a grift. that's because it's using the art of the top 5% artists to spit out inferior versions of theirs. that's the grift, and you're marketing it as "it's better than most humans". "IT" cannot even understand creativity or come up with new concepts. it's an image recycler.

[Anonymous No.6697273]

>>6696994
>The fact that it has no copyright makes it valueless
how dumb do you have to be to believe this.
>make copyrightable thing
>tell AI to draw it better
>thing still copyrightable because if not, then I could tell bot to draw mickey mouse and sell it on the open market for gorillions

you niggers really need to sanity check your delusions sometime

[Anonymous No.6697274]

>>6697023
this but unironically

[Anonymous No.6697275]

>>6697034
>AI is useless as well and the hype around it was fake as fuck to lure in investors so that they guy who is being sued to shit could run with the money.
thats already been proven wrong in this thread, and you are seething about it and dragging thigns further away from that point in the hopes that everyone forgets it.

[Anonymous No.6697278]

>>6697082
>Unless i can get direct access to bank transactions, i can't prove shit, i can only speculate and make educated guesses, but neither can my theories be disproven unless we would get to look at the monetary transactions i.e. where money is coming from and where it is going.
the hell? aren't patreon bux fucking open information? just use scraping and a fucking excel table and average it all. this is why fartists are jokes. computers could do this shit from before GUIs existed and you are pretending like this is insider information. Just look up all the erotic patreons and tell the computer to do what it does best; math!

[Anonymous No.6697285]

>>6697120
>do you think pornpen.ai patrons are all legit customers?
are you suggesting theyre all one guy? because if you can open up that many shell banking accounts and other payment processors you have way more money than JUST whatever the hell that faggot makes

[Anonymous No.6697294]

How come "real" artists are not accepting the challenge and doing hundred asuka pics in hundred days to counter the AI? Instead, they just seethe in the comments.

[Anonymous No.6697298]

How come AIniggers keep deluding themselves into thinking anyone besides autists and shitposters gives a shit about them?

[Anonymous No.6697299]

>>6697275
no one will value your AI slop. I enjoy it when some big discord server has an art channel and you retards get BTFO instantly when you even dare of thinking posting AI sewage in these places. ponder a little bit on why human art will always be more appreciated than fake and cheap plagiarized copies of their art. not among tech spaces of course, no one gives a fuck what you retards like to larp as every other year

[Anonymous No.6697303]

>>6697294
IDK anon
>why ask people do said anime girl of the week if they're not a fan or paid
>also... asuka from EVA
really obscure anime they're doing right there anon

[Anonymous No.6697304]

>>6697294
what challenge exactly? who can generate the most midjourney pictures in a day?
>How come "real" artists
that's the point, they're real artists. if people are on the race track are holding a sprinting contest, no one will care about your fat ass on a mobility scooter

[Anonymous No.6697306]

>>6697303
So traditional artists only care about money? That explains a lot.

[Anonymous No.6697313]

>why aren't you doing fan art of a thing you dont even care about just for clout artists are so greedy
>you do fanart of things you dont even care about just for clout and money? wow so dishonest
Even their IQ is on an algorithm

[Anonymous No.6697351]

>>6697023
If AI advanced as much as their goalposts then they might be on to something.

[Anonymous No.6697439]

>>6692905
>and now everyone loves DLC
Are you genuinely retarded?

[Anonymous No.6697442]

>>6697273
>take your thing
>distribute it for free

[Anonymous No.6697491]

>>6697306
well IDK anon how much do you like working for free shilling everyday

[Anonymous No.6697502]

>>6697294
last time I checked the entirety of Twitter was dabbing on this ai tranny, mocking his meme challenge and posting a ton of Asuka pics that got exponentially more traction, even high profile guys like Hungryclicker, but actually checking that kind of thing wouldn't fit your cucked narrative
>>6697306
yeah of course money is all they care about, that is why the overwhelming majority of them live under the poverty line
its funny, its exactly as >>6696418 said, sociopathic stemcucks spend their entire existence shitting on artists for having no money and telling them to get a real job until they smell shekels to be made and then miraculously develop artistic sensibilities overnight and then shriek and cry gatekeeping when told to fuck off

[Anonymous No.6697509]

>>6697294
How come prompters are not stepping up the challenge to match real artists' workload and do 1000 prompts in 100 days at the very least? Too lazy to type a couple words more than once a day?

[Anonymous No.6697525]

>>6697273
Wow
What a great and totally functional idea

Go on. Do it
Do it now and rake the cash. Prove /ic/ wrong

[Anonymous No.6697542]

>>6697525
it's always "w-well I'll just further cheat and deceive!" with those niggers

[Anonymous No.6697546]

>>6697542
Just entertain them and tell them to just do their "Aha!" moment.
Let them learn it the hard way

[Anonymous No.6697553]

>>6697273
As expected from the retarded anime trannies acting like this daily. Stop rotting your brain with the AI and literally kill yourself already.

[Anonymous No.6697554]

>>6697273
>anime fag
Opinion discarded

[Anonymous No.6697557]

>>6697273
Why are the anime trannoids have become this obnoxious lately? Hell, even twitter are starting to hate them because of how they keep being this much of a nuisance fuckers on supporting AI corporations.

[Anonymous No.6697560]

>>6690729
Lmao this will change nothing. Copyright has always been a thing yet "artists" especially in industry trace and bash over copyrighted works without any problem. There is NO way to tell if an AI generated work used a copyrighted image. This is like saying no one uses pirated software because piracy laws exist. Keep coping cloutniggers.

[Anonymous No.6697561]

>it's afraid

[Anonymous No.6697576]

>>6697560
lol ok
Go on and do it then.

[Anonymous No.6697581]

>>6697525
if they did you'd just say "see, aifags only care about money", don't cope

[Anonymous No.6697586]

>>6697581
Shut up and do it
Time is money. Be the first in line

Chop chop

[Anonymous No.6697587]

>>6697278
no dude, according to ai haters all AI art purchases are bots until proven otherwise(even though the guy admitted to not having proof) and all human art purchases are honest to goodness humans just buying art because they like it I swear

[Anonymous No.6697590]

>>6697587

[Anonymous No.6697624]

New Asuka just dropped.

[Anonymous No.6697634]

Ken Akamatsu is pushing for AI legalization. Fartists days are numbered

[Anonymous No.6697652]

>>6697634
>Sponsored by the former director of copyright office of india

you can't make this shit up

[Anonymous No.6697655]

>>6697634
he's not but I love how you fags rejoice at what leads to cultural death

[Anonymous No.6697660]

>>6697655
Modern culture is cancer that needs to be removed. This includes you. AI is the chemo.

[Anonymous No.6697665]

>>6697660
Where's the evil laugh? Forgot your script?

[Anonymous No.6697666]

>>6697660
more like amputation and a bullet to the head.

[Anonymous No.6697669]

>>6697502
kinda weird to do an art challenge without art or challenge

[Anonymous No.6697698]

>>6697655
It's really not gonna lead to cultural death, people are still gonna make their own artwork if they like the process or want to make meaningful emotional art and think they aren't able to express themselves through AI, and others who just want a cool thing to see or use the artwork as a part of a story or a prop, or just appreciate the art for itself will use AI.

Like, you don't need to use AI for everything and it will probably never match a truly skilled or emotional human.

[Anonymous No.6697699]

>>6697554
>>6697557
>>6697553
dont get it wrong the anime community hates these faggots too, every time one of these shills posts on /a/ they get promptly told to fuck off (but still end up feeding 500 replies in a 30 IPs thread)
the only ones who love them are retards who probably don't even watch shit but just sit on their asses browsing pixiv trash all day

[Anonymous No.6697708]

>>6697699
>every time one of these shills posts on /a/ they get promptly told to fuck off
I got a 3-day ban because of a tranny janny who couldn't handle someone hating the slop

[Anonymous No.6697713]

>>6697708
Yeah I got posts deleted and even a vacation too before, some fucking /a/ jannie monitors every AI thread and keeps deleting anything remotely against AI lmao it's pretty wild

[Anonymous No.6697717]

>>6697699
>the only ones who love them are retards who probably don't even watch shit but just sit on their asses browsing pixiv trash all day
Unironically, I think a lot of gacha players are into it, some of the vg threads I used to frequent liked aitroonery
>>6697713
Typical, they work for free so they probably shill Emad's goy machine for free too

[Anonymous No.6697720]

>>6697708
>>6697713
You probably got banned because you were sperging out and derailing whole threads because one guy posted a cute AI generated pic of Hoshino in a thread and you couldn't stop yourself from typing 10 paragraphs about how AI is le evil and le cancer and le killing art like the virtue signaler you are

[Anonymous No.6697722]

>>6697720
couldnt care less about one off AI pollution, i just hide and move on
rather than that it was some blatant off topic twitter caption shit about the Slayers artist using AI titled "ITS OVER", made one reply telling him to off himself and fuck off or something similar and my post got deleted instead of the entire thread
you should off yourself too, shill. stop polluting every board with your spam

[Anonymous No.6697726]

>>6697720
nice fanfic, did chat GPT wrote it for you? were you wearing your Programming Socks?
>derailing a bait thread

[Anonymous No.6697729]

>>6697699
>>6697708
>>6697713
>>6697720
>>6697722
>Ashually weebs hate AI too!
The leaders of weebs community said otherwise

[Anonymous No.6697730]

>>6697729
fun bait, I'll give you that

[Anonymous No.6697732]

>>6697669
It finally happened, I got turned into el risitas

[Anonymous No.6697736]

>>6697726
This is exactly what happens in so many threads, someone posts an AI artwork or something on topic for the thread like posting a cute AI generated pic of the Momoka in the U149 thread and then (you) get your autism triggered so hard you derail the thread, instead of just enjoying(or ignoring) the artwork and moving on, the normal response to artwork that doesn't appeal to you.

If all you do is post AI art is bad and just shit yourself every time you see an artwork, you're just actually spamming and derailing.

[Anonymous No.6697738]

>>6697299
>posts complete whataboutism and ignores the fact that he is wrong.

[Anonymous No.6697740]

>>6697525
I am a poorfag, but you dont need to wait for proof, you already ignored it in this thread
>>6696548
supposedly this guy is saying gran blue uses ai.
there you go. real gacha dollarinos + ai.

[Anonymous No.6697741]

>>6697553
>>6697554
>animefag
anime website
>>6697699
>W-we're cool
youre a nigger
this is an anime website, tell redditors and furries to go back or neck yourself tranny.

[Anonymous No.6697747]

>>6697587
Thats fucking irrelevant. his whole point is that the poorfags make nothing but refuses to substantiate that with numbers acting like it's impossible. It's not impossible. I could literally tell chatgpt to do it for me. its freely available data anyone can get. If you want to say theyre all accounts by 1 guy then you have to ask where his money comes from that he can afford that many accounts.

>>6697655
no thats you, you faggots love to cheer the copywrite jew. The only reason I am chomping at the bit so hard is I want it to die, and I can't believe there are so many sad sucks here that think if they fight AI hard enough their fucking special autism OC is going to become the next mario movie in popularity.

[Anonymous No.6697750]

>>6697736
Maybe if posting AI garbage elicits this kind of response or no response at all every time then you should perhaps stop being an annoying AI spamming nigger?

[Anonymous No.6697751]

>>6697736
yes, you are very oppressed and everyone is a meanie. you seem to be projecting the trigger part. are you mad when a big meanie anon doesn't like your slop? do you need janny to change your diaper?

here's what happens in so many thread: retard posts time wasting question with AI shit and starts spamming it in the thread, a few anons say it's trash and janny has conniptions and starts banning the authors of those less-than-10-words replies

[Anonymous No.6697753]

>>6697747
>LET ME STEAL FROM YOU
no
learn to draw, faggot

[Anonymous No.6697757]

Is OP retarded, why is he saying AI is criminalized when all it covers is that AI can't break copyright laws or am I missing something he didn't translate

[Anonymous No.6697759]

>6697747
great, the schizo is back

[Anonymous No.6697764]

>>6697753
>Let me steal from my children and their childrens children and their childrens childrens childrens children
Every human being on this fucking planet deserves to monetize the content and figures they grew up with in their childhood you god damn gigakike. take your gay corporate monopolies you stole from white people like disney and shove them so far up your ass you'll be praying for another 6 gorillian.

[Anonymous No.6697767]

>>6697729
>posts twitter posts
Can you niggers please go back? what the actual fuck is your response about anime fags something other than posts from /a/, this isn't reddit you fucking furry queer. No one gives a shit what some jogger and his two buttbudies said on the EV kike's money pit.

[Anonymous No.6697769]

>>6697750
>>6697751
>Seeing an AI generated artwork drives him so mad and so apoplectic with rage he can't help himself, he HAS to post a 2000 work post in response

no, anon, the child here is (you). Also, some people actually like the art, even if it's made by an AI.

have fun getting banned for being a derailing loser

[Anonymous No.6697770]

>>6697757
bump, anyone who can translate Japanese to check it?

[Anonymous No.6697773]

>>6697770
The post is in the first post after the OP, the google translate on it is:

In the development and learning stages of AI, acts of use that do not aim to enjoy the thoughts or feelings expressed in the work are ``in principle, it is possible to use without permission of the copyright''. However, if it exceeds the "necessary limit" or "unreasonably harms the interests of the copyright holder", it is not subject to the provisions.

On the other hand, at the stage of generation and use, the judgment of copyright infringement when uploading and publishing AI-generated images, or selling duplicates, is permitted under the Copyright Act for private appreciation/action. Treated like regular copyright infringement unless if the generated image is found to be similar or reliant on an existing image (copyrighted work), the copyright holder can claim damages/injunction as copyright infringement, and is subject to criminal punishment. It is said that it will also happen.


Really, it just means you can use whatever you want to train the AI, but the thing coming out is subject to regular copyright restrictions.

[Anonymous No.6697774]

>>6697769
Have fun sucking jannie cock, theres probably lots of room left in your mouth to please them since Emad's microdick doesnt take much

[Anonymous No.6697776]

>>6697769
>"y-you're mad"
explaining why you're an annoying faggot is not being mad, it's a non-autist educating you who clearly can't pick up hints
>Ai
>art
pick one
>some people like
yes, like the poster who replies to himself in such threads, you're no fooling anyone
>have fun getting banned for being a derailing loser
you can't derail a spam thread, its purpose is already to shit the board. stop pretending like it's on artwork and a novel is being written in those threads as an answer. usually the answers are
>Ai slop
>Ai trash
>another Ai bait thread
for example

[Anonymous No.6697777]

>>6697294
Geez anon, maybe because art takes fucking time you retarded no draw shitter

[Anonymous No.6697780]

>>6697764
Take your meds and learn to draw lol

[Anonymous No.6697782]

>>6697773
fuck OP for his thread bait title then ai isn't criminalized (yet), we can only hope countries that allow ai falls badly economically and people in power ban its use for good

[Anonymous No.6697783]

>>6697764
>Every human being on this fucking planet deserves to monetize the content and figures they grew up with
sure, if they WORK for it

[Anonymous No.6697794]

>>6697783
>s-sure if they work for it
they do work for it, but theyre criminalized if they take money for it, except for artfags. you break copywrite all the time for money and then quietly seeth or loudly seeth whenever someone posts or draws your shitty twatter ocs without permission.

The whole point of public domain is the art/ip itself becomes such. you can sell a reprint.
>>6697780
take YOUR meds you god damn cat hoarding cunt

[Anonymous No.6697812]

>>6697794
>you can sell a reprint
Which means that without copyright everyone and their mother can undercut you by just stealing the shit you made. Which means that there is no point creating anything new, ever, because some jew conglomerate with more reach than you is gonna profit from it before you dream of touching a penny, and that people cant live without money.
You really cannot think very far can you? As expected from an AI faggot! Come on, take the pills and find Loomis on the artbook thread, it will do you good to make something with your shit stained hands.

[Anonymous No.6697815]

>>6697794
>you break copywrite all the time for money
it's fair use that doesn't compete with the original material.
> then quietly seeth or loudly seeth whenever someone posts or draws your shitty twatter ocs without permission.
holy strawman faggotnig/ger just admit you want no copyright so you can steal,cheat exploit and make an easy buck without breaking a sweat and don't come here with your false concern

[Anonymous No.6697816]

>>6697812
Everyone and their mother can already undercut copyrighted work, ask your mom

[Anonymous No.6697817]

>>6697794
We're not even talking about disney's 80 year public domain, we're still on "is it copyright for me to copy demon slayer one to one or one to .95"

[Anonymous No.6697826]

>>6697812
>Which means that without copyright everyone and their mother can undercut you by just stealing the shit you made.
it's not stealing nigger. you dont get to hog and monetize all the hype fans gifted you. this is why you niggers get called fartists. youre not artists at all. you only care about your own gravy trough and NEVER want to contribute back into the system. to the point that you demand 50 years after your fucking death.

go suck bizneys shaft you flaming twatter fag
>>6697815
>i-its fair use
no it isn't.
>holy strawman faggotnig/ger just admit you want no copyright so you can steal,cheat exploit and make an easy buck without breaking a sweat and don't come here with your false concern
no, thats what YOU WANT YOU KIKE
you faggots steal the attention of millions and they buey up your brand in a paltry bid for relevance or genuine affection for it, then you monetize it until its a tired broken husk long since shitting one everything your proprties stood for if it ever approached quality at all.

you had 20 years with your fucking gay IP . IT's time to share schlomo.

>>6697817
what do you think selling porn of demon slayer is nigger?

[Anonymous No.6697837]

AI just keeps getting better and better. Is there a way to invest in it? I mean like stock market type investing, not actually learning how to use it.

[Anonymous No.6697843]

>>6697826
>no, thats what YOU WANT YOU KIKE
should probably stop frothing at the mouth before attempting to make any kind of argument. AI users are parasites, simple as. I agree copyright lasts to long but I think AI shouldn't be used for commercial purposes as it invites a whole new brand of poison. but you keep trying to worm AI accceptance in by painting it like it's on the same level as an actual artists creating work based on an IP
>"b-but AI users"
aren't artists

[Anonymous No.6697875]

>>6697843
>worm
ai isnt going anywhere you fucking retard, the only thing youre doing is making it easier for regulators to fuck anyone who isnt also a rich jew like you into getting access to ai. now kys you transparent vulture

[Anonymous No.6697900]

I'm not sure whining to the deep state or the jannies is going fix anything. AI is here and getting better every month. Art world needs to adapt or die.

[Anonymous No.6697952]

>>6697875
>"p-prueaaaase let me exploit others' work because uh...copyright bad for artists".
fags like you thought the whole artistic sphere would take it lying down and cry for acceptance as you abuse the technology. if you wanted to be accepted you shouldn't have abused it like adhd children. you are the parasites and no amount of of "no u" will change that. the use of this toy is representative of the technological trend of these past two decades: short-sighted and inexorably dragging down toward mediocrity. you don't even stop to think about its consequences because you seethe at artists and cling to anything to justify you taking them down. you are worse than immoral as you hide yourself behind a veil of morality.

[Anonymous No.6697988]

In all honestly, i do not care about AI or what it shits out as much as i do not care what real artists shit out, but i'm rather bothered by AI spammers desperately larping as artists and constantly trying to provoke a reaction from them.
And by bothered i mean that i do not understand what they're getting out of that or what their end goal is.

Do normies really romanticize being an artists so much that they waited for AI to come along to finally be able to be le epic internet artisté?
Why do they think anyone would actually donate to their patreons?
Do they have nothing but misery in their lives that they're incessantly on the internet trying to bait and troll to feel superior to other people?
What are they hoping in trying to demoralize artists?

Artists are retards akin to women and children and no matter how many mirrors you hold in front of them, they will never become self-aware.

People who are going to draw, are still going to draw and don't really give a shit about the skill level of AI.
Artists who virtue signal on twitter or are desperate for clout are going to gobble up every bait to do that and do the usual insult throwing and buzzword spamming they do.
Internet artists who only care about getting money from retarded coomers and normies will jump over to AI, because they didn't give a shit about drawing in the first place.

Using AI to create artwork, kind of defeats the point but any real artist would know this without resorting to the excuse of copyright, ai being unethical or other bullshit.
Imagine wanting to play an instrument but deploying a robotic arm to do that for you.
Or driving a race car, but the car drives itself.
Or wanting to cook food, but then buying it already made and cooked from the store.

All the AI justifications comes from coomsumers who will never create anything anyone will really value beyond superficial stimuli; yes, much like most of modern art made by real artists as well.

You're just all fucking shit.

[Anonymous No.6698131]

>>6697952
>fags like you thought the whole artistic sphere would take it lying down and cry for acceptance
thats exactly what you niggers are doing. rolling over crying just as corporations wanted you to. Good job.

[Anonymous No.6698266]

Just two more weeks of HRT and AI trannies will become real women

[Anonymous No.6698471]

Criminalized my ass.

[Anonymous No.6698496]

>>6698471
That author died in 1980's lol
They are just making scam shit, as you all do.

[Anonymous No.6698513]

>>6698471
>Tezuka
They called him God of manga to justified low paying for mangaka. In truth no one follow his legacy anymore.
Now he is used as a strawman for corporate to steal from artists.

[Anonymous No.6698821]

>>6697736
If you want people to not seethe, at least don't post fried shit with 12 cfg

[Anonymous No.6698941]

>>6698513
Actually, no
They call him God because he deliberately distributed his stuff for free just to cheer people up after WW2

Day and night, he would draw caricatures of Astroboy on old papers just to make people smile a little

[Anonymous No.6699140]

>>6698471
>its his own fucking son who pushed for this shitty project
He also dit the same shit with Tezuka NFTs and it flopped miserably, if I were tezuka id hop out of my grave to disown his sorry ass

[Anonymous No.6699659]

This is why manga and line art is the future. Ai can, and never will be, able to create good line art until it develops consciousness.

[Anonymous No.6700022]

>>6699659
yes sister but actually AI will never be able to replicate the sovl of cave paintings so let's just destroy the whole civilization to own the aichuds

[Anonymous No.6700071]

>>6700022
no, fellow Aitroon, we should speed everyone's fate toward the pod life.

[Anonymous No.6700079]

AI art lacks SOVL

[Anonymous No.6700085]

>>6700079
>bad art is bad
>that means AI has SOVL/SOVL is irrelevant
come on