/asg/ - Anime Study General

[Anonymous No.6686753]

Why You Should Copy Anime:
https://i.imgur.com/zNDsyF0.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbKqIJcIUCw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgjx6y6B_G8
Krenz Accuracy Imgs: https://files.catbox.moe/tklkj8.rar
Krenz Courses: https://asgg.notion.site/Krenz-238090f8a5934eb883fc644bef1d1214

**Strive for quantity AND quality.**

Anime Studying:
>Copy anime references exactly and draw them from memory. Use illustrations, screenshots, anime figures, 3D models, etc.
>Don’t copy recklessly. Use construction, color theory, and other fundamental concepts to rehearse a drawing process that you can later easily manipulate for original artwork.
>Post all of your anime studies. Post even when you’re told not to. Create an art community that actually draws and improves together instead of just talking about it.
>Number your attempts and link to your previous posts.
>Critiquers should lead by example by posting their studies.

General Anime Style Discussion:
>Questions about achieving certain styles/techniques/compositions etc.
>Drawing methods, study habits, resources, tutorials, tools, software, etc
>Be specific and try to post a sample of your study attempts before asking for help.

**Draw copies from good anime styled references to mindfully up our mileage, internalize appealing aesthetics, and learn from each other’s processes and knowledge.**

Recommended Resources:
https://pastebin.com/Yz2scAEc

/mmg/ - Manga Making General:
>>>/ic/mmg

Previous Thread:
>>6676186

[Anonymous No.6686831]

my head shapes always look off. I can never make a chin/ jawline that looks acceptable, meanwhile i dont completely hate my torsos/ arms/ legs.
thanks for reading my blog

[Anonymous No.6686897]

delete CSP and download SAI2

[Anonymous No.6686900]

delete all SAI and download CSP

[Anonymous No.6686916]

delete Doubt and download Having_FUN

[Anonymous No.6686969]

>>6686753
Tried copying Lunch from Dragon Ball. I'm still far from capturing the sexiness of the original.

[Anonymous No.6686977]

I think I found a solution to the umbrella shadow? Idk, it was like 2 threads ago, but if the anon who made this is still here I hope it's useful.

[Anonymous No.6687027]

how do i actually replicate eyes like this? i know thats a timelapse and "just copy" but this literally seems like bunch of random colors in random places surronded by yet another random lineart and when its finished it looks so good, when i try to do random colors it looks like shit so there has to be a method to this, i have to be missing something. any tips welcome, im struggling

artist is @l0ve_la_bit

[Anonymous No.6687031]

>>6687027
ignore the hair

[Anonymous No.6687128]

>>6687027
What do your eye drawings look like?

[Anonymous No.6687131]

>>6687128
i posted it here >>6687031

[Anonymous No.6687136]

>>6687131
Get rid of the line art in the eye (you do have it on a separate layer, right?) and see what happens, if there is no implied shape then you need to work on those faces

[Anonymous No.6687163]

sketchy sketchj

[Anonymous No.6687164]

>>6687163

[Anonymous No.6687226]

>>6687136
thanks, lineart around the pupil was useless, also blending modes helped a lot, after a few hours i am finally okay with the result though still very far from the original, now time for the hair...

>>6686969
looks nice! although elbow looks a little weird?
>>6687164
looks promising! work on the hand a little tho

[Anonymous No.6687249]

>Wanna add a kitsune to my drawing
>An actual fucking kitsune, not a girl with fox ears
It's impossible to find references

[Anonymous No.6687298]

>>6687249
Have you tried using the animal tag or the no_humans tag... Or, y'know, looking up actual foxes on google images or pinterest and using those as reference.

[Anonymous No.6687376]

Are these choices of guidelines fine? I feel like Krenz broke drawings down into shapes and guidelines more gracefully.

[Anonymous No.6687412]

Do you guys actually recommend vilppu or is it a meme? Also in which order should one study the beg books?

[Anonymous No.6687457]

>>6687412
lol, Vilppu, loomis, hoghard or whatever its name is, are good at teaching the basic shit for drawing/anatomy/fundies, but it's not a must to learninh how to draw, it will take you out to low beg to mid-high beg pretty fast but you can still lear a lot of these that stuff on google images lmao, you should be intermediate to start stylizin imo.

[Anonymous No.6687461]

>>6687376
https://search.bilibili.com/all?keyword=K%E5%A4%A7%E5%B9%BC%E5%84%BF%E5%9B%AD%E6%8A%93%E5%BD%A2

[Anonymous No.6687467]

>>6687376
https://search.bilibili.com/all?keyword=K%E5%A4%A7%E5%B9%BC

[Anonymous No.6687486]

>>6687467
thanks
I see people go all sorts of ways about it other than maybe putting a few major straight lines at the beginning
but I've gotten some ideas from these, I'll see how it goes
back to drawing with me

[Anonymous No.6687679]

>>6687249
>actual kitsune
>not a girl with fox ears
Your mistake here is that actual kitsunes for most people are kemonomimi and not furshit. What you actually mean is you want furshit.

[Anonymous No.6687720]

[Anonymous No.6687742]

>>6687679
I have a human loli riding on top of it Princess Mononoke style, it's lolishit not furshit

[Anonymous No.6687935]

>>6687457
>implying anyone in this thread is above beg to begin with

[Anonymous No.6687955]

>>6687720
wip

[Anonymous No.6688031]

idk

[Anonymous No.6688098]

>>6687955
You didn't asked for a redline but, I see that just a little tweak here and there (her neck, arm and hand) could improve a lot your picture.

[Anonymous No.6688099]

>>6688031
This is PRO-tier work anon.

[Anonymous No.6688214]

>>6688099
thanks but i feel like something looks kinda off

[Anonymous No.6688246]

reminder

[Anonymous No.6688253]

>>6688246
reminder of what? very helpful

[Anonymous No.6688266]

>>6688246
Source?

[Anonymous No.6688445]

>>6687249
Azur lane foxgirl supremacy

[Anonymous No.6688453]

>>6688445
Suzuran?

[Anonymous No.6688626]

studying Maison ikkoku now. The art varies a lot depending on the episode. It seems like a certain animator/artist usually worked on one whole episode.

[Anonymous No.6688833]

>>6688098
thanks anon it really helped

[Anonymous No.6688836]

>>6688833

[Anonymous No.6688890]

>>6688836
NICE! It worked alright
keep at it anon

[Anonymous No.6688966]

sketching a certain character

[Anonymous No.6688971]

>>6688966
here's the character

[Anonymous No.6688991]

>>6688966
I would pay attention to the eys as she tends to have more of a sultry looking eye.
other than that great job anon

[Anonymous No.6688992]

>>6688966
THAT'S DAMN HOT ANON. saved.

[Anonymous No.6688994]

>>6688966
very nice body, lower face is a bit weird, also do chin/cheeks with single lines even on sketches or it will look ass

[Anonymous No.6689003]

>>6688836
>>6688890
I redlined my own drawing because it was too stiff a pose etc

[Anonymous No.6689135]

Always lovely to see everyone progress! Keep it up guys! <3

[Anonymous No.6689140]

Which mangaka has the easiest artstyle to copy and why is it Oda?

[Anonymous No.6689342]

I've realized I really like using mspaint
here's some practice I did

>>6689135
Looking good
neck is a bit long tho

[Anonymous No.6689421]

>>6689135
I tried my hand at copying the same ref,
here's some sketchs I did on paint

[Anonymous No.6689825]

can anyone rec me more artists like watanabe akio? dunno how to describe it other than very colorful and moe

[Anonymous No.6689889]

>>6688836
Just liquified the face and head if thats fine. I wanted to redline it but I realized I have not achieved the fundies required to do so

[Anonymous No.6690112]

>>6688836
Cute design. I wanted to try drawing the skirt.

[Anonymous No.6690113]

How do I shade the skin of a Rin?

I'm mostly worried about the leg that's out, that shadow looks wrong to me but idk how to unfuck it. Should it just be soft shading? I'm trying to do hard shading or cell shading or whatever it's called. the hard shadow looks fine under the skirt but it looks like shit on the bare leg idk why

>>6689421
the profile one needs work, the others are good. I like the evil fairy, great pose and face and hand

>>6689342
bit sus on how well you draw the male body my boy, but no hate, you be your flowery you. it's good art. fix the dislocated shoulder on the maid and have her fetch me a double espresso

>>6689135
<3
>>6689003
this is very stiff, yeah. I think a lot of artists start with like a C-curve for their entire character, so imagine her chest is pushed out and her ass is pushed back. i like the hand with fingers splayed, good job on that one

>>6688966
highly skilled, not much I can say, you beat the video game of art, gj

>>6688246
who is this? the hair styles are very useful, let me look up this artist pls

>>6688031
pretty much top tier sketch senpai, gj

>>6687226
damn your shading and coloring is insane, give me some advice anon

mouth could be better though, it kinda stands out compared to the rest. someone once said that your drawing is only as good as your worst feature, I don't believe it to be the truth but that mouth looks kiddy

>>6687164
nice, but a little generic. I know it's vague to say that but that's my impression, not much stands out about this character
>>6686969
your highly detailed spaghetti gives me determination
dont hide the hand, it looks very dumb, you can draw one, your lines are good. you are really good at the details, frills, spaghettors, all that. I feel like if you fill the page with such details on a grand scale people would be blown away, but naturally it's a lotta work

>>6686831
if drawing girls, make the jaw point about 1/4 of circle length down from the head. if boys, 1/3+

[Anonymous No.6690179]

Still new to this, thoughts?
Is the pose shit or have I just been staring at it too long?

[Anonymous No.6690186]

>>6690179
Pose is great! It's balanced well. My personal preference is the hands and feet are a bit on the smaller side, i'd make them bigger but that's not really a critique.

[Anonymous No.6690199]

>>6688626
cool project, but why anime and not manga first?

[Anonymous No.6690246]

mine on right

[Anonymous No.6690267]

>>6690113
THought I'd paintover to help you a bit.
What I use for the arms and legs is a shadow airbrush initially for the shadw udner the legs and the arms.,
Your shapes when it comes to the shading isn't following how clothing would naturally fold and so it's giving the wrong forms.
hopeit helps anon

[Anonymous No.6690284]

>>6690267
thank you very much
I wasn't thinking of clothing folds when i did clothing funnily enough, I kind of was thinking of limbs so I shaded it like spheres or cylinders because it's hard for me to imagine folds that aren't linearted. they're kind of imaginary until shaded and that messes with my brain

>>6690246
yours is better than the original, original has a weird face

>>6690179
very cute, pose is nice
I'd add some cute simple background and ship it. give her a cat. right now

[Anonymous No.6690319]

>>6690186
Yea the hands, I get what you mean. Tad bigger ones could be absolutely adorable but something is just preventing me from doing that, I just feel uncomfortable drawing them bigger ... But I'll definitely try next time.

>>6690186
>>6690284
>pose
Wait it actually works? I was absolutely certain it would give off beginner vibes at minimum

[Anonymous No.6690328]

>>6690319
Beginner poses tend to be unbalanced either through the backs and legs being wonky or not having the floor in mind, so the fact that you have her standing realistically shows an understanding! Keep studying full body poses like this and you'll really get in edgewise.

[Anonymous No.6690347]

>>6690179
the shoes feel real flat
I'm guessing your going for a minimilst shading here?
cute

[Anonymous No.6690464]

>>6690328
T-thanks, I actually went in to this piece with the intention to practice that balance of a basic standing pose but with tad exaggerated forward lean, or what I later learned to be the S-shaped action line.
But I was most worried about the pose of the arms, they just feel cheesy and little awkward to me. And I can't tell if I'm just overthinking it or is there actually something there. It's the second time I've ever drawn hands at all ...

>>6690347
>the shoes feel real flat
Can you elaborate? I can see only the shoe closer to the broom lacking bit of shape on the inside wall.
>I'm guessing your going for a minimilst shading here?
Style-wise every decision I made there was pragmatic. I've been drawing for a shockingly little amount of time, I don't want to overwhelm myself with complex shading or tools. This kind of two-tone "oekaki" style looks really nice when done by japanese artists, it seemed to me the easiest thing to try replicate.

I'm just really scared to try more detailed coloring. It's among the top things that makes anime art look like westener slop. And I have zero idea how the japanese artists make their shading look good. For most other things I have gathered some insight just from the sheer amount of art I've enjoyed, but shading I'm still completely clueless about.

And I think that's fine for now. I believe for a beginner it makes a lot more sense to just put all the focus on the damn lineart, to get the shape of things right. Then do a very simple but effective shading pass and quickly move on, instead of spending a week to make your art worse with shit shading.

Oops that turned into a rant-blog
but i love opinions

[Anonymous No.6690516]

>>6690179
pose is off shes leaning backguards and that lower leg in the left is in a slight different angle from the foot

[Anonymous No.6690520]

>>6690113

[Anonymous No.6690522]

>>6690113
>damn your shading and coloring is insane, give me some advice anon
I dont really have any to be honest as i think its actually one of my weaker points lol but thanks a lot. I guess just looking and analizing different works helps a lot and keeping in mind the source of light or where you can use soft or hard shadows but you probably heard that before. your pic looks okay but i would use more saturated shadows for the skin (which i think actually looks the best in terms of shading compared to the rest), also on the sweater you seem to use the darkest shadow pretty randomly, keep your shading organized more. if you are adding cast shadows (like the one under her chin or the one under the skirt) use a hard darker color, this cast shadow and ambient occlusion are most of the time the darkest in this artstyle. well maybe im talking way too much for a beg
>that mouth looks kiddy
thanks for the feedback i sure struggle wtih mouths and mouth placement a lot, tried to make her loli-like but it didnt work that much

>>6690347
use less chicken scratches and it will be good

[Anonymous No.6690541]

>>6690516
Ooh thank you, NOBODY had spotted that off-angle foot. Didn't realize there's zero play in that rotation at all, now I know.
>pose is off shes leaning backguards
This was intentional. That very bottom red line, what do you mean with it, where the feet should be in relation to it? Should the tip of the shoe be on it?
I knew the balance was slightly off there depth-wise, but holy crap is that angle difficult for me with that sort of lean. I don't even know why I'm trying these things without a reference ...

[Anonymous No.6690552]

>>6690541
>>6690516
> I don't even know why I'm trying these things without a reference ...
Except I can totally make this sort of pose and have my own feet as forward as they're there, what gives?
I mean I do see they're bit off, but why exactly, what's the rule, what's the pattern?

[Anonymous No.6690625]

>>6690541
the line at the bottom was just to show the front angle starting from the hips. the pose you are thinking is not impossible by any means but you drew the legs locked, also the leg on the left is floating, anyways she looks like shes holding into the brom to not fall backwards , shes currently off balance if you follow the closest point to the front you can see it, it wouldn't look that bad if wastn becaese both legs are locked on front, maybe if one were slightly behind it would look better

[Anonymous No.6690666]

>>6690625
I can see it, I just couldn't draw something that looked right and just settled for something close enough. Had no plan for the legs at all, that's probably the root of my problems.
But thank you again.

[Anonymous No.6690701]

this time it's another character, but unlike the other everyone knows who she is
armor is hard to draw and I'm uneasy about eyes and hands

[Anonymous No.6690728]

>>6690701
the eyes and hands would be better if you stuck to the ref

[Anonymous No.6690768]

Todays wip :3

[Anonymous No.6690775]

>>6690768
very cute anon
good job
I redrew an anons drawing in my style
>>6690701
looks nice

[Anonymous No.6690896]

colours... kinda...

>>6690728
this pic was one of the refs I used for the left hand, unfortunately I didn't find any similar pic for the right hand
>>6690775
thanks bro

[Anonymous No.6690911]

>>6690896
hair piece is in a different angle from the face, and the eye in the right is slighly higher

[Anonymous No.6690943]

>>6690911
nice pointers, I'll try to fix it with the lasso too bad I started coloring now
the eye looked like half the face was melting when I tried to move it so maybe I can leave it that way

[Anonymous No.6691035]

finished it

[Anonymous No.6691043]

>>6691035
Naisu

[Anonymous No.6691466]

i don't understand lineart-based workflow. just draw all the lines, closely connected, use paint bucket/fill tool, then shade with round brush? why does my lineart look so soulless then?

[Anonymous No.6691486]

>>6691466
skill issue

[Anonymous No.6691539]

>>6690728
>>6690701
Art theft

[Anonymous No.6691547]

>>6691035
The hands are too small and that's the second or first thing that people will look at after the face. I would have said something sooner but I just saw this image today. If you put your hand on your face that's how big it the hands should be relative to the body.

[Anonymous No.6691551]

>>6691539
its a generic gachashit saberface copypasta 'character', there is no personality to this factory made mass produced waifu so obviously all fanart of this corporate slop would look the exact same

[Anonymous No.6691552]

>>6691539
wdym

[Anonymous No.6691557]

>>6691547
Some people (mostly women) have small hands. I know one such person. But the hand closer to us (her right) should be larger due to perspective.

[Anonymous No.6691673]

>>6691547
unfortunately I had already posted on my blog before going to sleep
>>6691539
I stole your mom's ass if you know what I mean

[Anonymous No.6691865]

happy with how this came out

[Anonymous No.6691953]

Taking a little break from studying and I wanna know something.

Should this go bear or dragon? I wanna add cute features and it seems like fun to ask you guys.

[Anonymous No.6691976]

>>6691953
bears are cuter than dragons imo

[Anonymous No.6692040]

>>6688031
jjeeeesus. blog?

[Anonymous No.6692134]

Really struggling with how I want to draw eyes. There’s so many factors to consider, even when you are just playing with the idea of Appeal.

Post your fave eye styles???

[Anonymous No.6692455]

>>6686753
does this count

[Anonymous No.6692456]

>>6688966
booba version

[Anonymous No.6692606]

>>6690768
Fin!

[Anonymous No.6692807]

>>6691953
Bear girls are rare and innovative anon

[Anonymous No.6692900]

>>6691976
>>6692807
I think I dropped the ball and the design is hella boring. Any specific bears you guys wanna suggest? I want to incorporate more design elements than sleepy and sharp.

[Anonymous No.6692915]

>>6689825
Does anyone know what they used to do the line art for anime before it went all digital? Is this pencil or are they using manga tools like pen and ink?

If anyone has an old process video of how anime was made I'd love to see the steps. I always wondered how they got their shadow shapes so crisp.

[Anonymous No.6692919]

>>6691865
Looks good!
>>6691035
Nice angle!

[Anonymous No.6692920]

>>6692915
the lineart was done trad then scanned and colored digitally

[Anonymous No.6692946]

did a copy

[Anonymous No.6692990]

>>6692900
it looks pretty cool man, i love it!
sorry for not asked crits but i feel like her right hand should be bigger, since she is a bear and all

[Anonymous No.6693044]

>>6692990
Im sorry for killing this thread im a disgusting pig

[Anonymous No.6693047]

>>6692946
post ref, from the torso and below looks whack

[Anonymous No.6693049]

My nib wore out and I didn't even notice. I was manually coloring a lot beforehand.

[Anonymous No.6693060]

>>6686753
i see fumi art style! where have you been...

[Anonymous No.6693061]

>>6692990
Crits are cool anon. Thank you man!

I’m glad you mentioned that! I made one big and one small and couldn’t decide which one I liked better. I thought to originally go with big meaty paws for both, and then the contrast (and sorta monstrous) vibe of them not matching settled in. Thoughts?

It doesn’t read super well though. Character design is fucking challenging.

[Anonymous No.6693066]

>>6693047

[Anonymous No.6693083]

>>6693061
>contrast (and sorta monstrous) vibe of them not matching settled in
ooo thats a good idea actually, i can see it!
hmm may be its forearm that is a bit short
love her design though, you should definetly finish her!

[Anonymous No.6693155]

>>6691865
>>6692456
>>6692606
>>6692900
>>6692946

[Anonymous No.6693160]

I'm on lesson 2 of Krenz's perspective course, do the students in his class get extra material? I look through the homework time lapses on bili and they seem to all have the same proportions for things not provided like the chair or are they Googling standard chair sizes and putting them into the scene? Probably just going to copy their homework, just unsure if I'm missing something.

[Anonymous No.6693165]

>>6693066
torso is a bit square, tits are too close for that pose, arms are open to the side theres nothing to push the tits that close, pelvis is too low, angles orientation of the legs are different but not just that the form is off , right leg is swollen not thick,left leg looks like it's dislocated, neck is too large too.
that ref has some flaws too, the left arm is short and its forearm very long, drappery around the arms makes no sense, raptor fingers, ribcage shadows are too strong and oddly placed.

[Anonymous No.6693183]

Arisu a cute
gotta get to studying faces more

[Anonymous No.6693188]

as a virgin incel, I don't understand how the uhh cunny parts work

[Anonymous No.6693192]

>>6693165
embarrassing

[Anonymous No.6693196]

>>6693192
yeah the work isn't perfect, not need to be so mean to the og artist.

[Anonymous No.6693218]

>>6693165
I prefer the first head

[Anonymous No.6693255]

>>6693183
I redrew your drawing
While your colors are really nice your shading of the clothing doesn't follow the forms that much.
such as the chest shading.
the hands really need some work
I think one of the biggest problems I see is in your construction of your eyes I would suggest you study drawing eyes with construction more.
the placement of the ears needs work.
I see potential anon keep practicing

[Anonymous No.6693268]

>>6693066
Nice! Good work anon.

[Anonymous No.6693271]

>>6693268
oh its the ref mb

[Anonymous No.6693353]

>>6693268
>>6693271
the duality of /asg/

[Anonymous No.6693494]

did a study on 1 layer for no particular reason, after a closer look it seems like this autist also drew it on 1 layer

[Anonymous No.6693496]

did this today

[Anonymous No.6693531]

>>6693255
Thanks Anon, I think I'll make the eyes you brought up my next point of study. Thanks for the redraw as well!

[Anonymous No.6693554]

>>6693496
First glance, long torso is long.
With the hips itself being elongated, there is too much space in-between the ribcage and the hip and the breast being placed high that it makes the top half look shorter.

[Anonymous No.6693572]

>>6693554
>>6693531
No problem
OH I see it now

Did some studies

[Anonymous No.6693635]

>I keep getting filtered by heads
Guides for heads please? Why are heads so difficult, with bodies you can just focus on each part of the body. But with heads, it's hard to make them look appealing. I've been struggling with pretty much the head shape mostly in general, also with features like the placements of the hair and such. I really want to focus on the heads for now since it's pretty much the biggest appeal when it comes to drawing characters.

[Anonymous No.6693645]

>>6693635
draw the planes on that head

[Anonymous No.6693650]

>>6693049
what's the first thing to look for there when they begin to wear? because you can push some of them pretty far

[Anonymous No.6693691]

>>6693645

[Anonymous No.6693698]

>>6693691
its fucking over, jk if you are just starting to draw you need to learn how to see things in a 3D space, like visualizing a circle and its axis inside, then do it with complex forms like body parts

[Anonymous No.6693742]

>>6693698
>if you are just starting to draw
...well... but anyway thanks for the advice, all I've been doing mostly is just copying artist I like, I've been trying to grasp at 3D for a while now though.
Here's an anatomy study I did, also what guides that can help me visualize the axis inside? I've had lots of trouble just trying to get the axis part correct

[Anonymous No.6693753]

>>6693742
>>6693691
Forgot to mention, the headbox I did was from last month and the anatomy study I did is from this month, I should've just uploaded a head study more recently. My heads are still awful though.

>>6693698
Also what can help me learn better planes lines on a circle? planes on a circle destroy me.

[Anonymous No.6693755]

>>6693742
literally just feel the forms, theres a vilppu thread that explains that, see this skull? do this but with an anime head and you are done

[Anonymous No.6693781]

>>6693635

[Anonymous No.6693798]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZB8QVmhxJCQ

[Anonymous No.6693801]

>>6693755
I've read his book already, but I'll try to read it again, thanks for the advice.

[Anonymous No.6693913]

>>6686831
for me its the reverse, i can draw heads just fine but my bodies look squished together or off 99% of the times

[Anonymous No.6693927]

Messed up with proportions especially on the right side, but I figured I would doing this freehand.

[Anonymous No.6693971]

>>6693742
The more I look at it, the more I realize I have no idea what I'm doing and shouldn't be redlining but maybe you'll find it useful.

[Anonymous No.6693999]

>>6693971
This looks great anon thank you! I'm most likely not as skilled as you, I think you redlining my study helps me a little on anatomy, thank you.

[Anonymous No.6694104]

General question on CSP, is there a way for the enclose and fill tool to color under the lines as well inside the silhouette? After filling the color like this I always have to do another clean up and hunt for parts missed by the fill tool because afterwards it produces jaggies along the lines when I add more detail.

[Anonymous No.6694107]

>>6694104
you mean this?
https://assets.clip-studio.com/en-us/detail?id=1759451

[Anonymous No.6694109]

>>6694107
This looks cool thanks, I'll check it out

[Anonymous No.6695265]

study sketches

[Anonymous No.6695320]

>do some quick sketching/copying
>get to the eyes
>draw simple eyelashes and plain irises
>looks fine
>add pupils
>instant uncanny valley, like I was looking in the eyes of the psycho
It's like all that eye rendering artists do is to hide the pupils

[Anonymous No.6695433]

>have trouble with something
>look up a video about drawing that part
>it helped

[Anonymous No.6695605]

Eyeballing practice

[Anonymous No.6695628]

>>6695605
symbol draawing

[Anonymous No.6695633]

Symmetry is fr*gging hard

[Anonymous No.6695644]

>>6695628
And?

[Anonymous No.6695649]

>>6695644
I was referring to the otherdrawing

[Anonymous No.6695677]

>>6695633
use a quadrant

[Anonymous No.6695688]

[Anonymous No.6695695]

some random practice to get back into drawing daily

[Anonymous No.6695705]

[Anonymous No.6695778]

>>6695695
I would suggest that you vary your lineweight
try adding soft shading to feel the forms more
keep it up anon
>>6695688
something about the position o/showing of the eyes seems off
also I would work on the eyebrows
>>6695265
cute a little lineweight variation would make it stand out more

practice

[Anonymous No.6695793]

anyone have or know where to get krenz' 2021 courses?

[Anonymous No.6695856]

thought on this one before coloring it

[Anonymous No.6695860]

>>6695856
eye too far apart
bangs could use a bit more finesse/strands
hair is really good in general
boobs looks kinda weird
collar bones need some work slightly
good work anon
love your drawings

[Anonymous No.6695868]

>>6695860
thanks for the feedback brother

[Anonymous No.6695907]

>>6695868
here's a drawing I just did

[Anonymous No.6695924]

>>6695856
Here's just an attemptat showing what I meant in my suggestions here
>>6695860

[Anonymous No.6695941]

>>6695924
here's some changes

[Anonymous No.6695946]

>>6695941
lookin good!~

[Anonymous No.6696093]

still a wip
this is my dragon girl character

[Anonymous No.6696247]

>>6686753
How do i make the line pattern light thingy Lilith has on her back?

[Anonymous No.6696266]

>>6696247
scratch texture on a lower layer

[Anonymous No.6696280]

>>6695941

[Anonymous No.6696288]

>>6695644
i didnt know they made brushes to imitate the early stages of parkinsons disease

[Anonymous No.6696292]

>>6696266
scratch texture??

[Anonymous No.6696315]

>>6695644
Is this drawn with pressure sensitivity?

[Anonymous No.6696484]

How do I think of dynamic poses like this? I swear my brain can't come up with anything interesting.

[Anonymous No.6696547]

>>6690179
Uuuh, I was experimenting on how to draw better braids and come up with this by accident.
Seems to create a geometrically accurate braid from a very difficult angle too.
Please tell me I'm not the first one to figure this out.

[Anonymous No.6696552]

>>6696484
Boxes, i mean copy more anime

[Anonymous No.6696612]

>>6696484
>save a lot of dynamic poses
>copy them as fast and accurate as possible (simplifying shapes)
>try to draw and combine those shapes from imagination
>repeat

[Anonymous No.6696837]

>>6696280
thanks for the suggestions bro, I added them

[Anonymous No.6696939]

>>6696837
dope

[Anonymous No.6696975]

>>6693494
artist name?

[Anonymous No.6696995]

>>6696975
mamimi
you probably would not expect what you gonna see

[Anonymous No.6697033]

>>6696837
finished it
I guess...

[Anonymous No.6697036]

>>6697033
very nice man

[Anonymous No.6697037]

>>6697033
this actually looks great

[Anonymous No.6697071]

Is CSP worth it? Or should I keep using my pirated photoshop

[Anonymous No.6697214]

>>6697071
Depends.
CSP doesnt really excel at anything it's just does a little bit of every good.

[Anonymous No.6697287]

>>6696547
Never looked up braid tutorial, but tried doing something similar. Your way is pretty good, might steal it!

[Anonymous No.6697668]

Anyone here do work with more retro manga? I'd like to get a grip on RED: Living On The Edge or similiar very late 90s manga, but it's often hard for me to parse why the artist does stuff, even if I almost always love the end result.

[Anonymous No.6697850]

>>6696837
so you color with gradient maps?

[Anonymous No.6697948]

>>6686753
Am I supposed to be seeing something here?
If so how do I get it to appear?

[Anonymous No.6698054]

>>6697850
gradient map + a multiply layer
overlay and hard light layers are just for small adjustments

[Anonymous No.6698062]

>>6698054
I see, i see.

I suck at coloring and shading so this helps a lot.
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.6698104]

>>6697948
>Am I supposed to be seeing something here?
no

[Anonymous No.6698318]

>>6686753
I tried.

[Anonymous No.6698500]

>>6698318
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtjqh6IpIbU

[Anonymous No.6698594]

How the fuck do you even color? What are layers?? I'm just throwing flats at this thing right now and I think I'm even doing THAT wrong. Don't mind the bad proportions to the original, it was freehand cause I also can't construct.

[Anonymous No.6698654]

>>6697033
Whenever I see results like this I always feel like I'm ngmi

[Anonymous No.6698692]

>>6698104
Thanks

[Anonymous No.6698714]

>>6697948
click the arrows to expand it
ctrl+alt+t to expand all

[Anonymous No.6698803]

How do doujin artists come up with all their poses? Is it really just a case of the imagination?

[Anonymous No.6698826]

>>6698803
Build up a visual library by drawing poses from reference (life or studying other artists). You draw enough of them, you start understanding what the body is capable of as well as combining them into unique ones. Also in combination learning how to draw more dynamic ones by learning perspective and how to exaggerate it.

[Anonymous No.6698834]

>>6698826
"Why can [x] artist bust out poses like they've drawn hundreds of if before?" Because they have drawn hundreds of it before or at least something similar. Or they're familiar enough with anatomy that they can come up with poses and depict them in a believable manner. Yoshinari is an animator, for example (pic rel) and he's probably drawn thousands of bodies at this point.
References and 3d tools help bridge that gap of information when you're still drawing early on. But it's on you to start building that visual library up now so you can more effectively do poses later.

[Anonymous No.6698978]

Is it better to learn by taking your time with gestures or doing quick gestures?

[Anonymous No.6699039]

>>6698978
The quick gestures also double as a warm-up to get your brain going so drawing a batch of them wouldn't hurt to do at the start. The more you do them the more you'll develop a shorthand for figures which is useful later. But definitely do the bulk of your gestures longer if you're struggling with it. A minute or two. You'll get 30 done in half an hour which is a reasonable speed. Then you can move on. Do them everyday since commitment is part of the discipline and you'll get your mileage in!

[Anonymous No.6699263]

>>6698654
don't feel so bad about it, I've been drawing for 4-5 years now
here's an old draw of mine, chances are most people here can do better

[Anonymous No.6699276]

>>6699263
>have to grind for 5 years just to reach $60 commissions level

[Anonymous No.6699298]

Foreshortening a bent leg where the knee faces the camera looks awful without rendering. If you were to just trace a photo ref it would look ridiculous. Knees suck ass

[Anonymous No.6699310]

>>6699263
How often did you draw and what did you practice?

[Anonymous No.6699314]

Can someone help explain this concept to me?

[Anonymous No.6699343]

>>6699314
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlF1mnhdIGs

[Anonymous No.6699349]

>>6699310
in the first years I drew about 2 times a week in sessions of 4 hours or so
but in the last year I drew a little bit almost every day
I copied artists I like and studied vilppu, anatomy for sculptors and stonehouse
now I try to balance copies and draws from imagination
I also thought it helped to copy doujinshi artists since they have good anatomical knowledge

[Anonymous No.6699354]

>>6699263
>I've been drawing for 4-5 years now
Me too, but...

[Anonymous No.6699360]

>>6699276
westoid jeans, please understand
>>6699354
I would try to watch an instructor like vilppu and make even more copies of your favorite artist catbro

[Anonymous No.6699424]

Re-watched Hyouka and I think it's time I learn to draw males for shipping purposes. When was the last time you anons draw males? Or you haven't drawn any males at all? I was convinced I won't draw males before but here we are.
>>6699349
Really nice. It really shows that you've drawn a lot.
>>6699354
Probably different mileage in those years. Just keep drawing anon.

[Anonymous No.6699626]

>stop drawing for a few weeks cause some guy called my art shit
Fuck, hate myself right now. I'm getting back on the saddle but how do I stop being such a bitch?

[Anonymous No.6699640]

>>6699360
>I would try to watch an instructor like vilppu and make even more copies of your favorite artist
nta but wish i could find a nsfw artist i like who is doing a simple lineart with more of a render heavy drawings
the one i like the most right now is nyantcha but the fucker is actually very good so its hard sometimes to imitate him

[Anonymous No.6699650]

>>6699626
If it was your art and you're still trying to learn, then call it shit yourself. It should be considered shit because it's a stepping stone for you to get better. No one should be judging that any better than you yourself judge it. It's nothing to be offended by

If it's a completed piece then stop letting it bug you if that's not your drive. If you don't want someone calling your full work shit, then keep practicing until you know for a fact that they're wrong. You have to either take pride in the fact that you're working to get better, or like what you make enough that some random's opinion doesn't interrupt your grind.

Place more value in the time you're spending creating than someone's words. You lose progress and a block on something you won't get more of.

[Anonymous No.6699735]

Warmup study for the evening, I think side profiles on anime faces are pretty fun

>>6699349
Jalter bro! You're honestly improving insanely fast, it's always a pleasure to see your work.
Also question for you, when you're copying your favorite artist, are you also applying from what you learnt from those books into those copies? Or do you do it something different entirely, also here's a Jalter I studied

[Anonymous No.6700120]

Studies.

[Anonymous No.6700150]

How do you guys do eyes? Do you start with a square or circle? Do you start with the top and bottom?

[Anonymous No.6700158]

>>6700150
yup.

[Anonymous No.6700257]

>>6700150
I prefer to use a hexagonal shape to start the drawing because I feel it's more dynamic.

[Anonymous No.6700273]

>>6700257
now draw an eye from above view using this

[Anonymous No.6700319]

>>6699349
im curious, do you have a job?

[Anonymous No.6700335]

>>6700273

[Anonymous No.6700421]

>>6687027
>random colors in random places
its never random colors. learn about hue/value/saturation and how they interact with eachother, it's very important. Also its never random places, it all has to do with suggesting forms through deliberate shapes.
Most of the darker values you are seeing are intentionally suggesting the reflection of the eyelashes and the darkness of the pupil, however they don't contrast heavily enough to be distinct. It results in them looking like a random mess of blue-greys but when you step back and look at the whole image it sells the illusion.

[Anonymous No.6700595]

Are pics like this usually drawn in one go or was there an underlying rough sketch with guides? I want to know if I should be able to draw clean lines instantly or if it's okay to start out rough all the time.

[Anonymous No.6700600]

>>6700595
You can never really tell unless the artist actually shows the undersketch or a timelapse. But you should get in the habit of using rough sketches no matter how scribbly or minimal they are. Freehand drawing is reserved for showing off your mileage and skill (situational) or for fun, low stakes drawing. You're absolutely going to want to rough things in and have guidelines so you plan your main work better. Even pros who don't follow their guides 100% still do at least the bare minimum of a thumbnail or rough to get ideas down before committing.

[Anonymous No.6700629]

>>6687027
render iris like a sphere, add shade from shit above it, add highlights - that should be about it for an average anime eye
for mote details just look at photos and remember it

[Anonymous No.6700631]

>make even more copies of your favorite artist

[Anonymous No.6700640]

>>6700595
It was probably done in one go. You can see on the legs of the furniture amd the quality of the hands

[Anonymous No.6700708]

I just received my first request on pixiv, I'm kind of anxious, I hope I can do something that meets expectations

>>6699735
thanks fellow jalterbro, that's a pretty nice jeanne too!
It would be ideal for you to use what you learned in the books
for example picrel was made by a professional doujinshi artist, he uses boxes and cylinders, just like vippu explains in the chapter about boxes
just keep in mind that when studying the books the proportions change when copying anime but the fundamentals are the same

>>6700319
I finished mechanical engineering college some time ago but I fell into the meme and I still haven't found a job so I have a lot of free time

[Anonymous No.6700843]

>>6700708
>I just received my first request on pixiv, I'm kind of anxious, I hope I can do something that meets expectations

[Anonymous No.6700934]

You guys are fucking liars.
The pose here >>6690179 looks like dogshit. And the proportions and anatomy are terrible too, particularly the upper torso.
But it was the first time drawing something like that, the idea was to make mistakes and learn from it.
Tried to improve proportions though I still struggle with shoulders. And the pose? I don't know. I can't figure this shit out. What am I missing, if anything?

But. I want the harshest critique you have available. I want a proper beat down by some pro otaku art elitist. Just do it, and be as toxic as you can. I want it. It'll help me improve even faster.

[Anonymous No.6700943]

Does anyone have a link with tons of poses? Preferebly nude and/or in "anime style" meaning real models pose like anime characters.

[Anonymous No.6700959]

>>6700934
>pro otaku art elitist
wont find that here buckaroo.

>>6700943
go to >>>/e/ plenty of resources there for all your coomer needs

[Anonymous No.6700963]

>>6700959
you bothered to reply but not give any feedback

[Anonymous No.6700964]

>>6700959
>>6700943
sorry I didn't read the full post. Cosplay models are a good resource check instagram the ones with the most followers are basically almost completely nude anyway

[Anonymous No.6700976]

>>6700963
im a beg anon i'd be leading you in the wrong direction anyway if I gave technical advice. I'd suggest to just try and enjoy your art. It seems like you have the ability to critically analyse your own work and identify the things you'd like to work on. You got a fair amount of positive feedback and called them liars so it comes off as if you hate your work or at least dont believe it's "good enough".

[Anonymous No.6700987]

>>6700934
Good critique is rare to come by, just go with your gut, find your own limits and break them. Dissect your favorite artists. A self-driven approach like this will give you way more mileage in the long run than relying on internet art gurus.

[Anonymous No.6701015]

>>6700976
I have a friend who does not draw at all but has a good taste in otaku art, and his feedback has been by far the most valuable to me. Completely hopeless at technical feedback, but quite an elitist, similar to myself. He is not afraid to tell me exactly what grade of an artist I am, or when I start to veer off from the "japanese standard".
Sometimes it takes a bit of effort to decipher what exactly he's seeing in my art, but it's still incredibly valuable. He's like an extra set of fresh eyes for me.
Anyway, what I'm saying is, that anyone can tell what "looks off", even if they can't quite tell how to fix it. It's the artists job to figure out how to make the viewer like the art.
Like, surely, the proportions issues and beg-ass hand pose are obvious to everyone?
>so it comes off as if you hate your work or at least dont believe it's "good enough".
I haven't even considered if I like my own art. I've been drawing for one and a half months. I'm speedrunning this art thing.
I'm enjoying the grind, seeing my art improve so much every week.

>>6700987
That's largely what I am doing.
But it takes a week for my eyes to reset and see my piece of shit artwork for what it really is.
But with more eyeballs I don't need to wait.

[Anonymous No.6701022]

>>6700335
lmfao

[Anonymous No.6701033]

>>6701015
>see my piece of shit artwork for what it really is
You need more self-steem.
Lurk some more and you will see some true Dunning-Kruger permabeg shit in here that will open your eyes, you in the other hand seem self-aware, eager to improve and your stuff already has some appeal. Keep your chin up I believe in you marisa anon.

[Anonymous No.6701036]

>>6701015
don't wait a week, draw in between so you are continuously receiving and implementing feedback instead of losing all your gains to breaks

[Anonymous No.6701090]

>>6701033
>You need more self-steem.
There would not be such a drive to improve if I thought my art was fine as-is.
And man, the feedback is so overwhelmingly positive that it would easily fool a more naive mind into thinking that.
I have to beat myself down if nobody else is willing to do it. Where are the elitist shitlords, if not on 4chud?

[Anonymous No.6701209]

>>6686753
I was hoping to download of few of those Jap pose books to work on drawing full bodies as opposed to just heads/upper bodies. But all the mega links in the pastebin are dead :(

[Anonymous No.6701263]

Can someone help me with some tips on how to improve the pose and what I'm supposed to do with the rest of the drawing, so It doesn't look like it's incomplete?

[Anonymous No.6701319]

>>6701263
I think you forgot her stomach

[Anonymous No.6701462]

How common it is to draw actual noses in anime styles?

[Anonymous No.6701483]

>>6700934
Go sign up for a course or mentorship with a pro if you want scathing critique. "Is this pose shit?" "It's decent (compared to most offerings here and has appeal)" "No! I want it to be anatomically perfect!" Fucking open with that last part maybe so people know what you're looking for. There's also a redline general in the catalog.
You're going to burn out if you're going to have this mindset with every piece you draw, by the way. Have fun with that.

[Anonymous No.6701485]

In previous thread Anon accidentally drew a tranny and I wonder if it's possible to a girl with large mouth/jaw and retain the feminity.

[Anonymous No.6701556]

>>6701483
>Fucking open with that last part maybe so people know what you're looking for.
Anon I'm a beg. I don't know what I'm not aware of, what I'm not myself looking out for.
I had a feeling the pose was bad but I was completely blind to the anatomy issues. And it's annoying nobody pointed it out to me.
Grateful to the anon >>6690186 who told me to make my hands bigger. A huge improvement. Any feedback like that, I want it. Things I fail to see myself.
>You're going to burn out if you're going to have this mindset with every piece you draw, by the way. Have fun with that.
I'm actually totally expecting to burn out at some point, but it's worth it to keep up my pace.
I know not to be too ambitious, I limit the things I try to improve on a piece. Like here I kept the exact sameshading and oekaki style even thought that desperately needs improving (a style I chose for its easiness). But I had already a small list of things to work out.

[Anonymous No.6701758]

Some studies based on Izumi-sensei's works.

[Anonymous No.6702106]

Can someone help me with this pose?

[Anonymous No.6702187]

>>6702106
I don't know if you meaning to twist the hips in the original or you wanted them pointing downward like she's sitting(?). Feel free to do it anyway but I couldn't tell from the sketch.

[Anonymous No.6702220]

>>6701556
I'm the same guy who told you to make the hands bigger. Listen, all i'm saying is that you should be more pointed in what you ask of people. There's a mix of skill levels in here that didn't see anything too egregious with your pose at a glance. Another anon even redlined your post already and that wasn't enough for you. Instead of coming back a week later bitching about people "lying to you", you should think about maybe rewording your posts to be less vague. If you can't even manage that then you need to get a clue about what you're trying to improve in your work or you won't know what to focus on.
If you want help with poses then maybe go here >>6690796 like I said before.

[Anonymous No.6702225]

>>6702187
You are a life saver, thank you so much

[Anonymous No.6702229]

>>6702225
No problem. Anatomy reps are slowly paying off thanks to the tuna. Still need to grind hands though... Anyway, keep at it!

[Anonymous No.6702282]

I am looking for an artist/artists to draw scenes from my adult audio book. Please send me an email at [e-mail] with your prices and drawing examples. Thank you for your time and all that.

[Anonymous No.6702303]

>>6700934
There's nothing wrong with simple poses. Faggots will disagree.

[Anonymous No.6702321]

>>6700934
You art is fine. Your anatomy/proportions aren’t the problem- it’s easy to the eyes, and doesn’t have any noticeable mistakes, even if it’s a little stiff.

It’s the face that cause problem. There is slight feature creep, the neck is misplaced, her right pupil isn’t aligned to where she should be looking at, and the back of her skull is too small which is the main problem causer coupled with the huge eyes- which look kinda dead due to the lack of noticeable highlights.

I tried to do a little rework just so you can see what I’m talking about, I left the body mostly intact, just added a few more shadows, curved the limbs a little, and added shines. But otherwise it’s a very nice and cute marisa anon.

[Anonymous No.6702366]

>>6702220
>bitching about people "lying to you",
Ah I didn't mean to actually offend anyone with that comment, just some partly self-deprecating banter. I apologize, lets be friends, hand-san!
>you should think about maybe rewording your posts to be less vague.
Isn't the point of asking for critique to get someone to tell you what you can't see yourself?
That was literally my first time ever drawing an unclothed body too. I am here setting a baseline for myself, and trying to find everything I could improve on. But I know my biased eyes wont be able to spot everything.

Hell, did I even improve on it? Haven't got a single word of feedback here.

>>6702303
As a self-described elitist I agree with you. A lot of the artists I follow and love never draw any full body poses at all. But what they have is style, and adorable faces.

>>6702321
Ahh finally,
>even if it’s a little stiff.
This is something I seem to always have trouble with, and I just fail to figure out how to fix it.

Anyway, about eyes, the first >>6690179 marisa I decided to leave lightly shaded with sharp (difficult to position) pupils because I thought the contrast in color between her clothes (the hat) and the eyes had something interesting going on.
With this pic I just worked on the anatomy/proportions/pose and just copied the shading in interest of time, since this is going to be last one I draw in this pixelated oekaki (I bought a tablet!!). But I forgot to consider that this one has no hat so the logic for leaving the eyes so light isn't there. And you're absolutely right they look dead af in this one. This actually bothers me so much now.
Now, I dont like your eyes at all, but heres a Remu from couple weeks back, there I had less experimental eyes >>/ic/thread/6671817#p6672324..
>nd the back of her skull is too small
Ah I knew it but I thought I could get away with it, I guess not (i REALLY didn't want to redraw the hair AGAIN).
And good edit on the leg.
And thank you!

[Anonymous No.6702589]

postin here since /lsg/ went sleepy

[Anonymous No.6702592]

>>6702589
>when you don't use a ref after only using refs your whole life

[Anonymous No.6702598]

>>6702592
spot on. how could I let this happen

[Anonymous No.6702630]

[Anonymous No.6702868]

>>6702630
very sovlfull

[Anonymous No.6702923]

>>6702630
sovl

[Anonymous No.6703199]

wonder how popular artists feel about others adopting their style
do you think they are more happy about it than annoyed?
ive seen dozens of krekkov's copycats and it doesnt seem like he has any positive feelings about it, but he is going schizo lately so who knows

[Anonymous No.6703208]

>>6703199
I've also heard of other artists having meltdowns about their style being replicated. I think it depends on the level of copying and claiming it's yours. We're told to study other artists by copying but that's meant to just be a way for us to learn to pick it apart and apply certain aspects to amalgamate into our own drawing style. But if you, say, post a drawing that's in another artist's style, but also in the exact same pose, with a similar character (with some minor tweaks) and the same composition as one of their existing pieces then that's just straight up replication and is usually frowned upon. Lots of people drew like Mignola since Hellboy's popularity, for example, but I haven't seen him be really bothered by it and it doesn't affect his bottom line in any way because his work is still unmistakably his no matter how many copycats are out there.
I think some artists can be really schizo about it when an homage can be flattering or just ignored at the most since no one can really replicate your own ideas in the end.

[Anonymous No.6703264]

>>6703199
>>6703208
Copying is a tool.
Referencing is a tool.
Tracing is a tool.
Prompting is a tool.

[Anonymous No.6703288]

>>6702589
Nice line work

[Anonymous No.6703492]

>>6703264
Ur a tool.

[Anonymous No.6703494]

>>6698803
watch lots of jav

[Anonymous No.6703538]

>>6698594
Update, still winging it

[Anonymous No.6703555]

I received a request to make an oppai loli, in this case it's the character chloe from prisma/fgo as a german beer maid with exposed nipples
is this loli enough? I've never drawn a loli before so I'm not used to that body type

[Anonymous No.6703558]

>>6703555
this was one of the references sent to me

[Anonymous No.6703564]

>>6703555
looks like a normal anime woman

[Anonymous No.6703568]

>>6703555
make the limbs thinner

[Anonymous No.6703580]

>>6703555
the request is at least $150, yes?

[Anonymous No.6703585]

>>6703580
I charged 6000 jpy which is about 45 dollars
I saw a lot of people better than me charging 8000 jpy so I don't know how realistic this value is

[Anonymous No.6703590]

>>6703585
pretty good for a beginner

[Anonymous No.6703593]

Anyone that isn't a closet homo or lazy fuck who's gonna ghost me after a day wanna practice together? I'm not very good but I feel like if you're working with a partner things can go faster

[Anonymous No.6703606]

>>6703593
the fuck do you mean, just draw

[Anonymous No.6703619]

>>6703606
I AM drawing nibba, but I want a partner who can elevate me and vice versa. Everything is better with a partner, this is a proven scientific fact and I can't find an atelier or drawing place near me in bumfuck nowhere

[Anonymous No.6703656]

>>6703619
lol gay

[Anonymous No.6703679]

>>6698594
>>6703538

>>6686753
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgjx6y6B_G8 [Embed]

[Anonymous No.6703747]

>>6703679
Should I Just go through the complete main course?

[Anonymous No.6703877]

Obviously still a WIP but feel like I'm missing something that's really wrong, can someone give me some crit

[Anonymous No.6703926]

>>6703877
flat head, no chin

[Anonymous No.6703930]

>>6702868
>>6702923
:)

[Anonymous No.6703942]

[Anonymous No.6703945]

>>6703877
Like the other anon said, also legs look like logs , better drappery on the skirty

[Anonymous No.6703958]

Any tips for mouse drawing?

[Anonymous No.6703964]

>>6703958
Use line arc / beizer curve tool. Cel your shadows and highlights.

[Anonymous No.6703990]

>>6703945
>>6703926
thanks
for the drapery though shouldn't the skirt hug the thigh since gravity would be pulling the skirt down on both sides of the thigh? sorry for the mspaint no tablet rn

[Anonymous No.6703997]

>>6703990
depends if the skirt is pretty tigh or her arse is firmly holding the skirt then yeah, but it the skirt is just loose then no, eiher way can work

[Anonymous No.6704268]

[Anonymous No.6704367]

>>6704268
Anatomy could be better but i'm kind of loving the vibes anyway and how it's composed.

[Anonymous No.6704768]

>>6703930
blog?

[Anonymous No.6705745]

Wish I could do these in my sleep too so I can grind through it quicker but lol. Until it becomes second nature.

[Anonymous No.6705946]

>>6686753

[Anonymous No.6705948]

>>6705946
Holy fuck i wanted to weep when I saw the thumbnail, how can I make my art less unbalanced/skewing towards one direction. Do I always have to flip the canvas?

[Anonymous No.6705975]

>>6705946
did you intentionally liquify the top part? there's no way this naturally happens

[Anonymous No.6705977]

>>6705948
Flipping helps, but also you're drawing the features too flat. If you need your guidelines to be more robust and rigid then you should do that to get a sense of proportion.

[Anonymous No.6706055]

>>6702321
What is 'feature creep'?

[Anonymous No.6706069]

>>6705975
I didn't but I guess I was a bit absent minded. Still not an excuse.
>>6705977
I feel like it's a bit too extra? I'm convinced that no one needs those guidelines to make facial features not flat, especially for something as simple as my reference.

[Anonymous No.6706074]

>>6705948
Draw from the arm you right handed mother fucker.

Get some Peter Han into you.
https://youtu.be/eaif0PpNMas

[Anonymous No.6706082]

>>6705946
this is why u trace and analyze

[Anonymous No.6706125]

>>6706069
The point of master copies is to break down what makes the artist's style look the way it does. Then you do enough copies (and drawing figures in general) to where you also don't need the guidelines anymore and can discern stylistic choices. Just because the artist doesn't use guidelines doesn't mean you shouldn't either, especially when your forms are still incredibly wonky.
I'm also not saying to draw an entire realistic head and autistically measure each line. Just enough of an undersketch for your own reference. Tracing it first like the other anon said helps too.

[Anonymous No.6706225]

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