/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

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/beg/ & /int/ - Beginner and Intermediate general Anonymous Tue May 30 12:39:42 2023 No.6680357 [Reply] [Original]

If you are a /beg/inner or /int/ermediate in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
Use this thread instead of making new threads or post in the drawthread with fundamental exercises.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS wide using one of the following methods:
1. screenshot the image and post that instead
2. change camera capture settings to something smaller
3. send to computer and resize in MSPaint

READ THE STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit
New collaborative sticky (anyone can edit): https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
Old: http://www.squidoo.com/how-to-draw-learn

RECOMMENDED BOOKS FOR BEGINNERS:
Read the stickies

TRY TO BE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK.
When giving feedback, avoid vague "advice" - point what's wrong and try to give the anon you're quoting a clear direction to improve their art (study heads < watch THIS VIDEO about head structure, read THIS SECTION of THIS ARTIST'S BOOK, etc).
You, feedback seeking anon, should also try to be clear and concise when asking for critique/help. When posting your artwork, say what you want help with, and what's your goal with the study/artwork.

Previous Thread :>>6677789

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 12:41:44 2023 No.6680360 >>6680357 That's a very cute bird, full of soul

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 12:50:40 2023 No.6680368 File: 243 KB, 1000x728, Clothes 05.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 13:03:41 2023 No.6680382 File: 2.24 MB, 2300x2379, IMG_0276.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Reposting. I’m fucking up the environment/perspective here, and I could use some advice.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 13:22:41 2023 No.6680396 File: 457 KB, 1000x1034, perspective.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6680382 Protip: foreshortening is usually the hardest to do so it's often that the issue lies there. Also please resize your images.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 13:23:24 2023 No.6680398 >learn to copy >feel like I can't draw from imagination anymore

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 13:24:34 2023 No.6680401 >>6680396 Sorry I accidentally posted the large file instead of the resized one. And thank you.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 13:54:58 2023 No.6680430 File: 133 KB, 1283x1049, h8r8.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 14:00:27 2023 No.6680432 File: 1.67 MB, 3024x4032, 20230530_082536.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is 85% done. I am still fiddling with the tiles,and after another polish pass,a touch of black ink. And I will need Herculean restraint to keep it at a touch.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 14:14:51 2023 No.6680446 >>6680430 Are you constructing or copying without construction? Either way it seems stiff

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 14:16:04 2023 No.6680448 File: 699 KB, 1335x1335, Screenshot 2023-05-30 221541.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 14:38:15 2023 No.6680464 File: 193 KB, 1275x717, pose beg.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Tried practacing some poses. Do these look alright or am i already off?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 14:53:59 2023 No.6680473 File: 102 KB, 875x721, constru.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6680446 I construct, picrel is the draft layer. I do agree it looks stiff though, not sure what I should do about that.

Anonymous Tue May 30 15:00:09 2023 No.6680478
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I'm going to start a video course on figure drawing. Is it okay if I do it digitally or stick stay with pencil and paper?
I have no problem with traditional art but I mostly plan on working digitaly

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 15:03:26 2023 No.6680480 File: 296 KB, 1179x1000, Non.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anime ninja doodle

Anonymous Tue May 30 15:08:51 2023 No.6680483
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I WANT SEX SEX WITH DRAWINGS I WANT TO MAKE THEM 3D INTO VR CHAT AND INFUISE THEM WITH AN AI CHATBOT AND AI VOICE AND FUCK THEM REAL HARD CONNECT THEM TO MY ONAHOLE AND SCRIPT THEM SO THEY FEEL MY DICK THRUSTING INTO THEIR DIGITAL HOLES

MIDGETS HAGS CATGIRLS LOLIS MILFS GRANNIES NOTHING IS SAFE FROM ME IN THE VIRTUAL WORLD THE AI ANTICHRIST WILL CREATE A CUMMONSTER OUT OF ME ITS OVERRRR

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 15:15:20 2023 No.6680486 File: 3.64 MB, 4032x3024, son.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] just done

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 15:20:13 2023 No.6680491 >>6680478 Why not both? You do the one you want to do at the time. There are pros and cons on both of them, but they don't really matter, the fundamentals stay the same.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 15:22:42 2023 No.6680492 File: 1.15 MB, 1000x1000, 1654178032390556.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Having fun is important

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 15:27:40 2023 No.6680501 >>6680483 https://e-hentai.org/g/516598/ecde7becd0/

Anonymous Tue May 30 15:29:37 2023 No.6680504

>>6680464
I don't know the poses to say they are wrong, but you got a problem with proportion (I swear, this is the most common problem begs face)
Generally, the legs of a human are the same length as the head+torso. Meaning that the pelvis is the halfway point from head to toe.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 15:55:04 2023 No.6680528 >>6680473 Practice I think, not sure since I'm not that good at it either. The trick is to find the arcs that run through your pose, the rythms.

Anonymous Tue May 30 16:48:19 2023 No.6680565
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Posted this on the last thread but can someone redline the ass and legs?
I can't figure out if the genitals should be visible

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 16:49:12 2023 No.6680568 File: 126 KB, 850x1133, 312.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6680565 Did I get it right? Can the legs be drawn better at this angle?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 16:51:12 2023 No.6680570 >>6680492 KaBlam looking motherfucker

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 16:53:30 2023 No.6680574 >>6680464 I agree with >>6680504 Proportions are off.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 16:54:25 2023 No.6680575 >>6680565 Don't have access to my tablet right now, but I think there's something off with the position of the back leg is. I tried to pose like your picture and I might be wrong but, I feel like that leg naturally goes under the ass.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 16:58:35 2023 No.6680579 >>6680575 Yea the more I look at that the more confident I am that the leg is fucking broken

Anonymous Tue May 30 17:03:37 2023 No.6680586
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HOLY SHIT BROTHERS AND XISTERS! I worked out and afterwards my drawing improved like 500x, my lines were sharper, my proportions better and it looked overall better, how come? Is working out a miracle drug?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 17:08:44 2023 No.6680591 >>6680586 Post before and after

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 17:16:36 2023 No.6680600 >>6680591 n..no It's just quickposes.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 17:18:26 2023 No.6680606 guys i drew some cylinders and boxes today!!! im gonna make it

Anonymous Tue May 30 17:20:33 2023 No.6680610

>>6680600
Ah, fair enough. Well, it might either be that your arm was loosened by exercise and that made your lines more fluid and confident in general, or it could also be just looking too much into a slight day to day change. Still, exercising and drawing are both good!

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 17:28:43 2023 No.6680622 >>6680586 Yes. But not too much.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 17:30:20 2023 No.6680628 File: 819 KB, 1600x1200, ArmlessShin.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Feels off but I'm not sure what

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 17:34:02 2023 No.6680636 >>6680586 Have you not spent your entire life being told how good exercise was for the body and mind? Dummy anon learning the obvious. Grats though, keep working on those gains in all categories.

Anonymous Tue May 30 17:41:09 2023 No.6680644

>>6680628
You don't understand the forms, so you've lost lots of important details that convey their turn and orientation; and messed up the foreshortening wherever things are coming towards or away from the viewer. You also ignored the hatching in the reference, and just sort of made up your own rendering, losing even more of the forms in the process.

Anonymous Tue May 30 17:43:02 2023 No.6680648

>>6680565
Either move the foot out of the way of her butt and foreshorten a little more on the foot and calf, this way she is showing her ass, the crux of the drawing and will offer more action to her movement. Kinda like the shot was taken as she was shifting her weight.

Or tighten her right foot into her butt and show her heel really pressing against the butt there to once again emphasize the crux of the drawing. You can show the shift of weight occuring through the reactivity of the fabric and skin tightening beneath.

In terms of scale the close foot, her right, is too small and the right leg is offering an unappealing puppetish symmetry in the pose.

The butt is fine she's looking right.

The drawing is way better than anything else in here sorry to be nitpicky this looks really really good.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 17:55:16 2023 No.6680667 >>6680648 That's not mine. I just wanted to figure it out A guy in the last thread just showed me how the ass worked >>6680576

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 17:55:50 2023 No.6680669 File: 872 KB, 2696x3396, 33 5-30-2023.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Im this anon >>6658355 >>6658443. Is my anatomy still fucked or is it okay somewhat.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 17:57:02 2023 No.6680670 >>6680669 She's got no belly Chest Belly Hips

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 17:57:15 2023 No.6680671 >>6680669 those limb lenghts are chimpanzee tier

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 17:58:21 2023 No.6680674 File: 134 KB, 785x791, dsasdaasdsda.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How do you brainwash yourself into drawing forms?

Anonymous Tue May 30 18:05:52 2023 No.6680685
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>>6680669
Also colored but i'm not satisfied with the results since i have no understanding of how shadow works yet.
>>6680670
my brain is having a hard time to draw torso from chest down especially when i'm drawing from imagination, it still came out like they aren't connected properly.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 18:25:08 2023 No.6680707 File: 160 KB, 794x1000, Body.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6680669 NICE TITS! The HOT factor is there. Your heart is in the right place man, keep cooming, never stop, never give up.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 18:31:07 2023 No.6680715 >>6680674 hundreds of hours of practice

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 18:39:29 2023 No.6680724 File: 1.62 MB, 2696x3396, yucks.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6680669 >>6680707 >beg redlining the beg you both beggers need to go back to loomis ughhhhhh.....

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 18:45:13 2023 No.6680735 File: 232 KB, 939x535, kill me.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I may be the worst at this exercise it's possible to be

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 18:48:43 2023 No.6680740 Y'all motherfuckers need loomis

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 18:51:02 2023 No.6680746 >>6680724 Sounds like the pinoy got butthurt because the last reply uguuuuuuu

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 18:55:22 2023 No.6680755 >>6680724 idk if this is a joke post, but your "redline" is way less helpful than his

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 19:35:08 2023 No.6680817 >>6680724 I saved this just for the leg reference, thanks. Her right hand thumb is on the wrong side also :^)

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 19:50:11 2023 No.6680850 File: 2.76 MB, 3467x3069, 9g9g1a.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6679784 did some finishing touches. it's completed now. still looks rough but that's how it is with most of my art

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 20:07:10 2023 No.6680866 >>6680850 I ain't a painter, but the why it looks rought is mainly due to shapes and edges. https://youtu.be/nnhj5efzN_w

Anonymous Tue May 30 20:15:47 2023 No.6680874

It's interesting how all the art in this thread is either full beg, high beg/low int with almost ok technical skills but very poor stylization/taste or the rare legitimately good finished piece with faults noticeable only by nitpick. Never something imbetween.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 20:18:27 2023 No.6680879 what book

Anonymous Tue May 30 20:23:29 2023 No.6680885
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>>6680850
based style, yoshitaka amano vibes but not directly similar
not a crit but probably you could make it look more finished just by adjusting values in some areas where they blend together

process btw? i also like messy painting and i seem to always fuck up with too many layers and linearts

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 20:25:04 2023 No.6680886 File: 857 KB, 1301x921, Screenshot_20230530_222118.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Added some more details to the wip, any tips on colouring from greyscale or good vid?

Anonymous Tue May 30 20:26:52 2023 No.6680888

>>6680866
this is probably exactly what i need to learn but it seems very difficult to put in practice for me.
like i *get* it but applying it conciously, knowing which edges to sharpen or shorten on the fly seems like a hard skill to master.
thanks for the video.
>>6680885
i have csp process video saved. give me a moment.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 20:29:49 2023 No.6680890 >>6680874 That's cause the ones between are grinding like crazy. Those that post here are on the stagnated and don't know why.

Anonymous Tue May 30 20:34:00 2023 No.6680892

>>6680888
You're welcomed mate.
> knowing which edges to sharpen or shorten on the fly seems like a hard skill to master.
And that's why I said I ain't a painter, lmao.
Seriously now, I think the best way to practice for you is to do a master study and then do a piece of your own, then compare the two. Your stuff is almost there to being good, just need to study more.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 20:38:54 2023 No.6680899 File: 3.11 MB, 2286x1977, si9cg5.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6680885 pic rel is the sketch. this is the process. https://files.catbox.moe/vctok2.mp4 i look at alot of references from artists i like when painting.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 20:44:37 2023 No.6680902 File: 1.58 MB, 2306x1584, New-material-mimics-the-color-transformation-of-chameleons.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Anhedonia is kicking back in Ah, it was good while it lasted, guess it's back to 3 months of depression.

Anonymous Tue May 30 20:51:27 2023 No.6680909
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>>6680368
>>6680430
COOL, people are doing clothes. I don't know if it is the same anon, but here >>6680368 I straighten all the lines in the clothes, (and did some work in the girl's figure but that's not important), the clothes should be designed as solid shapes, blocks, so you can give them direction, weight and perspective, if needed. Like any other solid material subjected to the laws of laws of physics, like I show in the hand below holding a piece of cloth. This could sound like tha'ts what childs do, they draw squares and straight lines to do anything pants, shoes shirts, BUT here's when you add fashion study research and understanding. Fashion, clothing must be learned and study as any other matter in art.

Here anon, you asked
>>6680473
>not sure what I should do about that
You are doing right, I did the exercise to use your construction template to redraw everything and it looks good, so your construction method is right, you just have to keep grinding those studies, till you got what you want. And then I did some clothes lines on top on the side, again keeping it simple is the key.

Go look Leyendecker and take note of how he gives clothes elegance and simplicity with dynamic (mostly) straight lines.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 20:52:21 2023 No.6680910 >>6680902 just take your meds pal

Anonymous Tue May 30 21:33:36 2023 No.6680941

Started again. I think I picked too many resources though. Ah well. I'll try my best to stick to doing a bit each day.
Just blogposting, I guess. I did Key's to drawing first exercise with my oversized crocs. Looks like a ngmi abomination but also kinda cool. Gonna keep it to myself though.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 21:54:03 2023 No.6680956 >>6680909 everyone has roidgut except for the chick in the original drawing.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 21:55:04 2023 No.6680958 >>6680941 >Looks like a ngmi abomination but also kinda cool. Gonna keep it to myself though. Like hell you are, don't make us come over there.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 21:56:36 2023 No.6680959 >>6680958 oh shit it's the beg popo

Anonymous Tue May 30 22:05:21 2023 No.6680966

Nah, sorry anon. I'm tempted but it'd mean I'd have to share each exercise I do, also would make me committed to browsing this website more. I want to browse less.
Plus it's shit. I didn't exactly do that look-hold-draw thing it wants me to do and I didn't spend the minimum 30 mins on it. Instead of 2-3 restatements, there's like 20.
Maybe I'll start sharing after I finish Keys and move on to doing FWAP unironically. It'll still be lulzy badly done shit I'm sure.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 23:00:55 2023 No.6681021 File: 60 KB, 564x702, ref1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ref

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 23:01:26 2023 No.6681023 File: 368 KB, 3000x3000, p1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6681021 paint 1 i kinda gave up on

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 23:02:10 2023 No.6681025 File: 57 KB, 1000x1000, p1-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6681023 a simpler thumbnail i did

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 23:03:06 2023 No.6681027 File: 44 KB, 850x400, 9AABDE1E-88EA-4173-8109-BEE5B5A29246_5pi06sbd4o_xa7ae9iztp.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6681023 >>6681025

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 23:07:38 2023 No.6681037 >>6680909 Wow that's a lot of redline, looks really good.

Anonymous Tue May 30 23:07:51 2023 No.6681038
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>>6680956
Yep, muscle structure helps a lot to read anatomy. Even if you don't know muscle structure, the brain take muscle detail as markers and measure points, it doesn't even has to be a conscious process. The unconscious part of the mind also plays a big role in learning methods.

Most of the time I do the style in pic related. Or super build up figures, it is almost never an in between muscle build.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 23:10:21 2023 No.6681042 File: 1.89 MB, 640x640, 1683822312680167.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6680817 you werent supposed to point that out

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 23:33:53 2023 No.6681062 File: 166 KB, 1147x924, awful.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Nothing turned out right today, but at least I had Fun With My Pencil.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 23:46:50 2023 No.6681075 File: 976 KB, 3024x4032, FudXXJEaUAEyzf_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6681062 feel these forms

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 00:58:51 2023 No.6681148 You need to draw 5-6 hours a day.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 01:01:26 2023 No.6681151 File: 158 KB, 494x678, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6680357 uhhhh i need help with the chain and the hair

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 01:06:10 2023 No.6681156 File: 445 KB, 2048x1714, Fxab65RXsAEETp4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] toriyama study !!!!!! best i can do

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 01:07:58 2023 No.6681158 File: 461 KB, 2048x1514, Fxab65PWAAEENQO.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6681156

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 01:19:30 2023 No.6681166 File: 68 KB, 375x855, Screenshot 2023-05-30 211712.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Been messing around with drawing more stylized stuff

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 01:21:15 2023 No.6681167 >>6680357 Is it alright for me to use a stabilizer when drawing digitally?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 01:22:54 2023 No.6681169 >>6681167 Of course. Pencil and Paper is inherently much more stable than a slippery drawing tablet. Ipads are even worse, because of the glass

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 01:34:26 2023 No.6681182 >>6681166 Damn HOT, all tied up and everything. SAVED

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 01:35:57 2023 No.6681183 >>6681156 >>6681158 dude these are freaking great. A delight

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 01:40:06 2023 No.6681186 File: 133 KB, 792x1452, ze cat gurl.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6681075 ze form

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 01:41:05 2023 No.6681188 File: 86 KB, 500x500, 1641453931570.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >take a backgrounding course damn this backgrounding shit easy >actually draw a background damn this shit is time-consuming

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 01:48:50 2023 No.6681195 >>6681075 figure name?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 01:50:28 2023 No.6681197 >>6681169 Thanks anon, gonna set it to like 3 or 4 in CSP then.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 01:51:29 2023 No.6681198 >>6681197 default in csp is 6, for inking at least. I saw some japanese teachers set it up to like 20. Don't worry about setting it too high

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 01:57:45 2023 No.6681201 >filled with inspiration and concrete art ideas at work >sit down in front of my computer at home >my head empties and i cant draw anything but geometric shapes agony

Anonymous Wed May 31 01:57:49 2023 No.6681202
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>>6681186
not bad, but im not feeling the tummy and the bend in the leg is not as strong as the ref, face angle needs more rotation
3/10 for asg
9/10 for beg
6/10 for int
9/10 for salt/alt

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 02:06:09 2023 No.6681206 >>6681202 good pointers. subtle, but important improvements

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 02:08:40 2023 No.6681208 someone force me to draw i clearly cant do it myself

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 02:09:21 2023 No.6681210 >>6681208 draw a head first

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 02:11:04 2023 No.6681215 >>6681210 i can draw a circle with a vertical and horizontal line in it is that good enough

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 02:12:45 2023 No.6681217 File: 318 KB, 717x948, Screenshot 2023-05-19 214344.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] N

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 02:14:20 2023 No.6681218 File: 420 KB, 1506x1783, Screenshot 2023-05-30 191402.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6681208 fill in her breasts for me

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 02:18:16 2023 No.6681224 File: 3.34 MB, 4032x3024, 20230530_205556.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Here's something I tried copying from Loomis' books. What do you guys think?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 02:18:47 2023 No.6681225 >>6681218 i dont...... how?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 02:19:22 2023 No.6681226 File: 349 KB, 2545x1825, DqRZ-6dUUAIbPFh.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6681208 pick one, you have 5 min to show the whole class that you can feel the 3D forms t. Vilpu

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 02:19:32 2023 No.6681227 >>6681225 I'll post the answer in a bit :)

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 02:21:15 2023 No.6681228 File: 146 KB, 715x869, Screenshot 2023-05-31 043744.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6681218 NTA but I hope this is satisfactory

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 02:22:33 2023 No.6681233 >>6681224 This meme is still alive? Haven't been here for a year and it hasn't changed a bit

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 02:22:42 2023 No.6681235 >>6681226 >5 minutes If you think i can copy one of those in less than 5 hours you are trolling

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 02:23:08 2023 No.6681236 File: 24 KB, 480x442, 1655649144780.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6681228 Now i wish I hadn't posted her

Anonymous Wed May 31 02:23:55 2023 No.6681238
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Hello beg, today it was all struggle and crawling in perspective mud

>>6681167
it is better to learn how to manage without it. it messes up with your real life stabilizer (muscles in your hand) and it makes your curves less curvy. not to mention once you switch app or they update the stabilizer code and suddenly none of your lines works. plus once you get gud you can enable that stuff at any time for serious work
>>6681156
finally anon who draws something else but anime thots in a vacuum. nice!
>>6681151
if form is flat then it reflects lights uniformly across its length, you drew it as if the chains are round, look up some reference of chains. the hair are correct
>>6680966
idk i post daily and its fast, just PYW and move on, i check the (You)s only after i PYW
>>6680941
>>6680606
PYW!
>>6680674
just feel the form anon
>>6680586
sport makes your heart go faster, faster heart pumps more blood into brain and with heavier breathing your blood is carrying "more" oxygen. brain works better. most notable is medium cardio for longer than 30 minutes for this effect.
>>6680486
pretty cool but the lighting making it 3D (casted shadow under glued white paper) is imho disruptive, it would probably look better if fixed in digital so the black background is truly black
>>6680478
if you want to use digital then use digital
>>6680432
damn you still are working on this?
>>6681217
this looks uncanny and i cannot tell why
>>6681224
i think you need to sharpen your pencil

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 02:26:03 2023 No.6681241 File: 443 KB, 1506x1783, TITS.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6681218

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 02:26:04 2023 No.6681242 >>6681235 then copy the important parts

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 02:26:09 2023 No.6681243 File: 872 KB, 635x900, Screenshot 2023-05-08 101036.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Suffering

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 02:26:42 2023 No.6681244 >>6681242 If you think i can copy the important parts in less than 3 hours you are trolling

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 02:31:10 2023 No.6681247 >>6681243 looks great dont stress. take some time away from the piece and the issues will become clear quickly.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 02:35:51 2023 No.6681248 >everyone shills sticky >decide to read it myself >'copy this dude' >did that >'ok now read book book book book book book book book' not very zoomer friendly huh. Is there anything.. good?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 02:36:25 2023 No.6681250 File: 47 KB, 460x444, 1655704068283.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6681241 very good!

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 02:37:26 2023 No.6681252 >>6681248 >not very zoomer friendly huh. Is there anything.. good? You're a med student who doesn't want to go to med school. you don't deserve to make it.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 02:37:30 2023 No.6681253 File: 126 KB, 1506x1783, tits.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6681218 also nta but I drew her size proportional to the amount of skill I have

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 02:37:39 2023 No.6681254 >>6681248 if you're too dumb to read you're too dumb to get good at anything

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 02:42:44 2023 No.6681257 >>6681248 yeah just draw and reinvent all the wheels you could have learned by reading

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 02:43:21 2023 No.6681258 >>6681252 These books I cant get into due to zoomer focus are absolutely necessary? Despite most artists im friends with never having heard of them? >>6681254 I just cant do books man idk what to tell you.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 02:44:55 2023 No.6681261 >>6681257 Brother how am I meant to learn them i looked at both keys and right side and they're filled to the brim with nonsense. I've even done a few exercises in keys but dont know what im meant to be gathering. How do I learn anything there?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 02:46:15 2023 No.6681262 >>6681258 >Despite most artists im friends with never having heard of them? Every artist knows about Bridgman and Loomis, anon. The professional ones, at least. Maybe the soccer moms selling acrylics on etsy don't know about them

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 02:46:26 2023 No.6681263 >>6681261 is it an IQ issue be honest. They're literally picture books, what is it you aren't understanding?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 02:46:46 2023 No.6681264 >>6681261 just pet the fucking dog fuck you

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 02:47:11 2023 No.6681265 File: 308 KB, 719x721, 1654212772761.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6681253 im sure they will grow, with time and effort

Anonymous Wed May 31 02:48:54 2023 No.6681266

>>6681261
to give an honest answer: you don't
i don't think this applies to everyone but i can't really absorb information unless it's something i'm looking for to solve a problem i have. so if you think you require that kind of framing just draw until you find a problem in your drawing you want to solve.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 02:49:26 2023 No.6681267 File: 140 KB, 844x1304, biggustittus.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6681218 booba

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 02:50:29 2023 No.6681268 File: 630 KB, 2448x3264, 1661578442871445.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6681267 im a fan of your work

Anonymous Wed May 31 02:53:36 2023 No.6681272

>>6681262
>The professional ones, at least.
Yea i said artists im friends with. Idk any professional artists, but those arent the ones i want to be like
>>6681263
>They're literally picture books
they're literally not. Both of them are books filled with nonsense and easily missable exercises. Hell I accidentally skipped like 2 exercises in keys at first because I was skimming through the ramblings of the author.
>>6681264
Yea im drawing but i just dont get the sticky.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 02:54:38 2023 No.6681278 >>6681266 Well alright. Its just that people here seem to shill it like its gospel. Maybe its good at some point, but its clearly not the start for me.

Anonymous Wed May 31 02:55:30 2023 No.6681280
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>>6681243
Samus looks awesome, so you did the hard part great already. Maybe her leg needs to be a little bit "broken" like with some dynamic pose. Her hand just a little big bigger, because it's a hand inside an armored glove-suit.

And then the horse (unicorn). That's easy to fix, horses have a very distinctive shape, you can't miss. I draw a very basic horse head like symbol, if you follow those lines it will look recognizable as a horse head. You can be as detailed as you want but it's not necessary. It's an easy fix.

Samus is done, and that's the whole image goal. So congrats beforehand.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 02:56:41 2023 No.6681282 >>6681280 you're so frickin good man

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 02:57:16 2023 No.6681284 File: 612 KB, 2048x2048, IMG_0009.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How learn hand

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 03:07:53 2023 No.6681295 >>6681282 he's mid hes just redlining /beg/s

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 03:08:16 2023 No.6681297 >>6681284 nigga they’re right in front of you just look!!

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 03:21:29 2023 No.6681312 File: 122 KB, 412x862, Screenshot 2023-05-30 232043.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6681166

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 03:30:28 2023 No.6681320 >>6681312 Nice tits, nice colors. SAVED.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 03:33:54 2023 No.6681322 >>6681266 What resources do you use to look up a specific problem? I’ve noticed the sticky doesn’t seem to be the best for this type of learning

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 04:29:13 2023 No.6681391 File: 3.36 MB, 498x280, 1681437052521539.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i can’t feel the form

Anonymous Wed May 31 04:32:37 2023 No.6681397

>>6681322
idk man, i think it depends on the problem.
textbooks, youtube videos, course materials, asking others, brute forcing references.
the important part is that you're patient enough to read and understand the solution to your problem, and also to draw it after you learn about it.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 04:52:42 2023 No.6681426 File: 72 KB, 798x1024, EtsN9LgUYAAvRA4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6681391 you vill feel za form

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 05:01:11 2023 No.6681432 File: 212 KB, 412x862, z1r2yet1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6681312

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 05:13:19 2023 No.6681436 File: 940 KB, 960x960, dimitrescu_4.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6680735 cool slinky >>6681284 solution: dont draw hands

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 05:41:05 2023 No.6681452 File: 939 KB, 1200x778, rendering study2_re.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] how can I get better at rendering?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 05:42:28 2023 No.6681453 File: 860 KB, 666x720, srtdykhui.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 05:49:49 2023 No.6681456 File: 43 KB, 1002x898, Screenshot 2023-05-30 224053.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] If I just learned to draw well I'd really be in business. >>6681452 Looks like the difference between yours and the ref is just fancy brush work.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 06:45:44 2023 No.6681487 File: 8 KB, 240x240, samiways.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] When does it stop hurting?

Anonymous Wed May 31 06:53:02 2023 No.6681490
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>>6679863
I'm still confused on this. I wasn't able to figure out how to determine the full circle for the side of the cranium, so instead I went looking and found this 'sail' method that chris petrocchi and steve huston talk about. Is a bit confusing but I'm slowly wrapping my head around it, and how to manipulate the basic shape.

Does anyone else use this?

Anonymous Wed May 31 06:54:36 2023 No.6681491

I've been playing Crummy Pokemon Creatures: Art Academy (3ds). It's pretty neat software. Helps build up confidence and also train coordination with my tablet. Now it introduced construction, and it's kinda Loomisy. Super cute extra drawings in the mini-lesson pokemens descriptions.
Shame the Disney one doesn't emulate well for me.

Anonymous Wed May 31 07:06:19 2023 No.6681498

>>6680909
Thanks for the redlines dude.
>and did some work in the girl's figure but that's not important
Yeah I was really stuck on the girl in shorts proportions wise.
>the clothes should be designed as solid shapes, blocks,
Not sure what you mean here.
I did think I should draw through the form more to get a better feel of the clothing across the figure if that's what you mean?
>Fashion, clothing must be learned and study as any other matter in art.
Yes I will go study nake- I mean clothed women.

Anonymous Wed May 31 07:08:54 2023 No.6681499
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>>6680357
>>6680486
this is very cool, it would be better if the shadows were darker in the shaded part
>>6680628
the facial proportions are off and it seems like your grasp of perspective drawing is poor
>>6680669
impressive. the legs might be a bit too long and she looks like she has dog feet
>>6681062
lol. the mouth neck and ears look off but it works anyway
>>6681228
how odd...
>>6681243
very impressive anon
>>6681456
ayy lmao
perspective looks a bit off
>>6681487
soon anon. draw from references a lot, like do studies and stuff. you'll improve rapidly.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 07:43:16 2023 No.6681530 When do you think I should drop Draw a Box? Lesson 1 is definitely valuable. The box challenge is fine as warmup so I don't mind it. Should I also do lesson 2?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 07:43:31 2023 No.6681531 File: 1.94 MB, 1644x1080, figure study 7 png.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 07:44:02 2023 No.6681532 File: 365 KB, 1253x930, legs study.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Wed May 31 07:59:55 2023 No.6681542
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fucked this up so hard I dont know what I was trying to do. I've been attempting to build up my own gestures instead of just drawing from references and it's just not working out for me bros. moreover I don't think I've got the IQ points yet for scenes/backgrounds. Any recommended resources for learning that perspective shit with the lines and points?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 08:19:02 2023 No.6681559 >>6681532 yep, it's leg day

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 08:20:35 2023 No.6681561 >>6681542 Oh look, it's guitar man! >perspective with points and shit Drawabox has a good introduction on that.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 08:37:12 2023 No.6681575 >>6681452 layers

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 08:38:16 2023 No.6681576 >>6681531 really good

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 08:38:39 2023 No.6681577 >>6681561 Thank you anon! I’ll give it a look.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 08:46:14 2023 No.6681585 >>6681576 Thanks, she's fun to draw so I turned her into a character sketch

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>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 08:47:30 2023 No.6681587 File: 331 KB, 720x1280, Screenshot_20230531-044507_Gallery.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6681576 Thanks, she's fun to draw so I turned her into a character sketch

Anonymous Wed May 31 09:14:35 2023 No.6681606
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today's sketch. I wanted to draw a sexy pose, ended up just looking like she's cold instead. Also I don't know why but I struggle with girls? Maybe the shoulders are too wide or the face is off, I'm not sure.

Anonymous Wed May 31 09:28:25 2023 No.6681610
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>>6681606
Take a step back and look at the basic shapes. Simple proportional errors are all you have. Cleaning up your lines helps. Remember to do your daily regimen of figure studies and anatomy

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 09:40:14 2023 No.6681617 >>6681606 The face is an issue because I can't make out the details.

Anonymous Wed May 31 09:54:16 2023 No.6681622
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This took me almost two hours I swear. Am I developmentally disabled? I'm drawing for work now and I think my boss is expecting me to draw quicker. I barely did any studies, is this the answer?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 10:03:24 2023 No.6681629 >>6681622 How the fuck did you get a job drawing as a /beg/? To answer your question, no probably not. You just don't know how to draw figures yet. There's guides and textbooks for doing figure drawing. Go do like 100 and then come back.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 10:05:32 2023 No.6681631 >>6681610 Will do! Only just started doing figure studies desu, cuz I found this place in my frustration over being stuck in terms of art progress. I guess as always, the answer is more practice. >>6681617 Ah. That's an issue.

Anonymous Wed May 31 10:29:15 2023 No.6681643

>start drawing
>do my utter best to make sure I've captured all the broad strokes - proportion, gesture, turns of the major forms, etc - before moving on to details
>start working in the details, get halfway through then call it a night
>next day
>as soon as I open it, I can see major glaring issues in the proportions, gesture, turns of the major forms
every time

do I just finish as is, or spend even longer to scrap it and start fixing the mistakes

Anonymous Wed May 31 10:37:46 2023 No.6681646
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>>6681622
Plus island girl for fun.

>>6681629
Just got lucky meeting a designer who likes my stuff. I wouldn’t say I’m beg, but definitely haven’t done enough figure drawings, will try and do one after work every day I spose

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 11:00:39 2023 No.6681668 File: 938 KB, 1335x1330, figure_31052023.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Might as well slap today's figure drawing practice in too

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 11:48:13 2023 No.6681713 File: 216 KB, 742x795, 23.5.31.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6681075 attempted the forms

Anonymous Wed May 31 12:06:39 2023 No.6681724
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>>6681238
Yep,still working on it.

I took a week off, but I am determined to see the thing done. I feel like someone painting a bridge:you start on one end,and by the time you come full circle around it,the first thing you painted need another coat. But turning squiggles into suggestions of structures far away takes oodles of little black lines, and I only have a cheap pencil sharpener that is to making points as a machete is to fine dining. But my style is nothing but a succession of happy accidents anyway,so even a jagged lead can deliver the tightest of lines. My world is full of huge looming things,and this building, and it is a created thing despite its looks,this strip introduces Cassandra's House,because she conjured it into being,and has been exploring it ever since,for a decade or more. The Snowglobe castle is another impossibly huge building, with all sorts of details that the viewer can speculate about. So I made squiggles everywhere, and now I am turning them into "stuff". I am wondering what to do with the center road,and what design it will incorporate. Perspective wise,I can draw stuff detailed towards the bottom of the page,then merely suggest that pattern continuing in the distance. The finish line is close. Then the black ink. Then...color.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 12:11:15 2023 No.6681726 How does anime manage to look solid despite having super thing lines?

Anonymous Wed May 31 12:35:46 2023 No.6681753
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>doing drawabox
>did lesson 1, and all the 250 boxes
>on to lesson 2
>did organic arrows, organic forms with contour lines, easy enough
>move on to texture and detail
>understand NOTHING. not a SINGLE FUCKING WORD clicks with me
>no idea how to do the exercise at all
Well fuck. What am i meant to do now that was the only thing i could use to draw

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 13:15:11 2023 No.6681786 >>6680899 had to slow it down by 4 times but this is still helpful, thanks

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 13:19:59 2023 No.6681791 >>6681726 post an example of what you are talking about and maybe somebody will have an answer

Anonymous Wed May 31 13:23:12 2023 No.6681795

Am I too dumb for Keys to Drawing?
>finish exrcise number 2, drew my hand with my fingers pointing at me from some distance
>book says if your hand came out looking like a hand too much you didn't get the exercise and your hand wasn't at eye level do it again
Nigga what do you want from me?? You give me 15 minutes to draw my own hand, of course it'll end up looking like a hand even if I did practice "innocent vision". The exercise doesn't even say to keep it at eye level, it says to keep it 12 inches away from my eyes if that's even humanly possible
Fuck. I don't wanna repeat exercises.

Anonymous Wed May 31 13:43:06 2023 No.6681814
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>>6681795
i never understood why English speaking schools / nations have these "literacy" or "ability to comprehend written text" tests but the more i hang out on /ic the more i understand that being able to read is not a normal thing. it is a privilege of three digits IQ people.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 13:44:39 2023 No.6681819 >>6681814 Oh i thought he meant you were good at checkers

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 13:44:58 2023 No.6681820 >>6681297 My hands are too stubby and fat to reference

Anonymous Wed May 31 14:06:02 2023 No.6681850

>>6681814
Not going to deny that I am ESL, but that's a sarcastic statement. The whole paragraph says that if it looks too good, you've missed the point of drawing the foreshortening as you see it with your brains turned off not overthinking. An exceptional draftsman wouldn't need a book like this. The book has an error in it. It never said anything about keeping my hand at eye level in the exercise. It came out looking like the student examples, but fuck if it says I did it wrong for not keeping my hand strictly eye level and also 12 inches away I guess fuck me then and I gotta redo

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 14:14:31 2023 No.6681862 >>6681850 no it doesnt it just assume you brainlet who cant comprehend concept of different views, >omg car is looks different from the front then from the side how it happens it just wrong

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 14:15:51 2023 No.6681864 >>6681622 its shit but its good the girl looks pleasing

Anonymous Wed May 31 14:21:42 2023 No.6681869

>>6681862
You say that I lack reading comprehension or whatever, but dude if you unironically think he actually means that you truly did a great job for doing the exercise wrong I got some bad news... But you're probably just trolling right?

The thing says that you might have not completely trusted what you see and. Instead used too much of your ideas of how a hand should look like ignoring the subject in front of you

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 14:25:28 2023 No.6681876 >>6681869 I;m talking about Dodson post is missing quote > The whole paragraph says that if it looks too good, you've missed the point of drawing the foreshortening

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 14:27:58 2023 No.6681878 like if you did draw car from the front and it looks good it doesnt mean you did it wrong despite wheels not even round from this side

Anonymous Wed May 31 14:34:01 2023 No.6681883

>>6681878
I get you. It's a little hard to believe that it assumes you're that dumb, since the book seems very serious, but I guess it is intended for complete beginners then.
But too late for me, I'm mentally stuck on repeating the exercise now. Ah well it's only 15 minutes.
My whining aside, I really like it. I skimmed a bit and was glad to see that it'll explain shading with hatching later on. Definitely was a good idea to pick it up

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 14:37:16 2023 No.6681887 >>6681883 I know shading with hatching is nothing special, but it's something I like.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 14:42:03 2023 No.6681898 >>6681887 OH it is special.

Anonymous Wed May 31 14:55:45 2023 No.6681914

i recently did this character design and is like some critique on it. the final version is the one at the bottom. i also wouldn’t mind some more general critique for the close up i did for his face. (he’s meant to be a pirate so it’d alsobe good to know if he reads as one)

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 15:00:07 2023 No.6681917 File: 23 KB, 240x320, IMG_8366.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] haha sorry forgot to add the file

Anonymous Wed May 31 15:14:48 2023 No.6681929
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Something's been bothering me since the last time I posted here.
What the hell is "drawing from imagination", and why do at least some anons imply you can't draw anything original without it? You imply you either copy or draw in a vacuum all from imagination. This obviously sounds retarded, but I was accused of tracing everything because anons couldn't believe the progress I was making in just a couple weeks. Claiming that there's no way you can draw or shade stuff like that as a beginner. Impossibility, 100% traced.
Are you not allowed to actually learn as you go by referencing bits from here and there? There were indeed a gorillion things I had no idea how to draw, not until I looked up how my favorite artists did it, and then more importantly some experimentation on how to fit and transform the pattern to whatever I was doing (this is where the real learning happens). No need to copy or trace shit.

I'm still new so I don't understand your jargon but it starts to feel like a lot of the stuff you tell to beginners is just bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 15:16:36 2023 No.6681932 >>6681753 No clue what any of that is, but you sound retarded

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 15:35:05 2023 No.6681946 File: 1.62 MB, 1199x2016, feeltheform.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6681075 Was mainly interested in drawing the torso, so rip feet. Good pose to practise in any case

Anonymous Wed May 31 15:43:32 2023 No.6681956
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Hello. So after the spike drawing two days ago, I decided to draw kirby this time and I liked this cover art (i havent played this specific kirby game though) I tried some brush settings someone recommended me with the stabilizer and yeah I would say it helped. I really liked this pencil brush i used. I definitely got the eyes wrong but it was already 1am so i may have rushed that

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 15:43:54 2023 No.6681957 >>6681532 this is really good but it looks like the figure is leaning forward slightly

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 15:51:07 2023 No.6681968 >>6681946 Those eyes are scary... but dat ass, bro.

Anonymous Wed May 31 16:01:26 2023 No.6681981

>>6681929
You again mate? At this point, you should put a username if you want to be recognized here at this level.
Regarding your question(s):
>What the hell is "drawing from imagination"
Drawing from imagination is the goal of 90% of the anons, even the krenzbros, so people here will probably defend it. Now, this is from my memory, but from what I remember no one accused you of tracing, just that you were copying shit for attention.
>Are you not allowed to actually learn as you go by referencing bits from here and there?
Yes, you are, but that is what people here call copying, it's the wrong term, it should be study, but that's life.
Something that is bothering about your whole process is... how the fuck do you draw other stuff after your "real learning"? Because what you are describing as process has a case by case effectiveness.

Anonymous Wed May 31 16:49:18 2023 No.6682041
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holy shit I don't want to use reference but it seems that my brain is too weak from playing games to process 3D properly.
I just want to scream into the void, I FUCKING HATE USING REFERENCE.
Someone please sell it to me, because as I see it now - it's just too much fucking around

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 16:52:56 2023 No.6682045 >>6682041 >I FUCKING HATE USING REFERENCE. huh? I don't understand. What's annoys you so much about reference?

Anonymous Wed May 31 16:56:35 2023 No.6682049
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>>6682045
The need to actually look it up and use it when drawing. It gives me no pleasure to look up reference, I get a feeling like I'm not really Improving if I'm using it and I often forget to even use reference I get for myself.

Also traditional art is much easier because reference is right into your face. I can't get used to digital...

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 17:04:48 2023 No.6682062 >>6680382 >>6680396 DUDE I went insane searching for your posts everywhere, since I saw those pics, I've found them again, it was in this thread all the time lol. That pic is AWESOME man. It looks great. Keep at it.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 17:07:00 2023 No.6682065 >>6680909 That's great, thank you very much. I really like the drawover you did over my stuff Thanks for the advices and help dude, that's really helpful

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 17:09:07 2023 No.6682066 >>6681295 Shut up nigger

Anonymous Wed May 31 17:23:00 2023 No.6682081

>>6681981
>Now, this is from my memory, but from what I remember no one accused you of tracing,
This anon did mention "replicating or tracing" >>6673133 implying I was doing something similar.
>for attention.
I don't understand this accusation one bit either.
First I avoided even telling who I was or what my story is, not until some anon specifically asked me about it. I was there just to get feedback, I honestly thought nobody would even remember me. But it seems it's a general of regulars.
>You again mate? At this point, you should put a username if you want to be recognized here at this level.
And what the hell do you mean "you again", It's been a whole week and a hundred threads since I last made an appearance.
If I was going out of my way to build some sort of reputation or character here, I'd be posting a lot more than this and indeed namefagging too.
Which I sort of was at the very beginning, since I was bit bewildered by the response of the very first noodle reimu. But later I came to understand what the hell was going on, I apologize for any (new)faggy behavior back then.

Drama *is* fun, but I'm here just to learn to draw.

>Something that is bothering about your whole process is... how the fuck do you draw other stuff after your "real learning"? Because what you are describing as process has a case by case effectiveness.
Clearly there is something to my process, if I as a week 3 beginner can polish a turd to that degree.
But I don't really understand that point of yours. If I can draw original art, does it matter what the process is (as long as its not straight plagiarism)?
Besides, once I've done a thing X from angle Y, I can do it again "out of imagination", or more precisely I just have an idea what the pattern is. I can draw those faces pretty fast, for example. And a lot of otaku art is just the same patterns over and over again. The anime study general seems to understand this.

God dammit I hit the post character limit again >.<

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 17:36:31 2023 No.6682102 sex

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 17:37:52 2023 No.6682105 File: 365 KB, 1920x1200, mystique.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6682102

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 18:12:25 2023 No.6682138 >>6682102 thanks

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 18:21:04 2023 No.6682156 File: 271 KB, 1105x1086, chun222.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i changed many things again but I am done with this shit

Anonymous Wed May 31 18:26:22 2023 No.6682161

>>6682081
>I honestly thought nobody would even remember me. But it seems it's a general of regulars.
Anon, you are doing a certain style of art that no one here does, and in all oportunities you talk about past threads, it's not that hard to recognize you.
>And what the hell do you mean "you again"
Sorry for that, it was an honest opinion,
>But I don't really understand that point of yours
>Besides, once I've done a thing X from angle Y, I can do it again "out of imagination"
I call bullshit, but ain't gonna get pissed if you make me eat my words, pyw.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 18:31:32 2023 No.6682172 >>6682156 the only thing I would change is the shape of the clothes hanging from his torso, it has a very confusing shape.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 18:32:22 2023 No.6682174 >>6681932 Probably am, irrelevant though

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 18:35:20 2023 No.6682179 >>6682156 2 things i noticed were that the tits are uneven and also the blush on the blush looks a bit uncanny, could probably look a lot better if you colored the lineart for that section

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 18:41:50 2023 No.6682187 >>6682156 Looks pretty good anon, the bottom cloth is a little strange, but this is pretty high level, keep going.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 18:54:05 2023 No.6682199 File: 1.23 MB, 2388x1668, IMG_1012.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I’ve been following Hampton for a while now. How am I doing? What can I do better

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 18:57:14 2023 No.6682204 >>6682199 these are pretty good, i recommend using the ellipses for the ribcage n stuff more (like how you did the 3rd one), the poses look a lot less stiff that way

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 18:58:39 2023 No.6682208 File: 1.41 MB, 2388x1668, IMG_1013.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6682199

Anonymous Wed May 31 19:00:41 2023 No.6682209

>>6682161
>Anon, you are doing a certain style of art that no one here does, and in all oportunities you talk about past threads, it's not that hard to recognize you.
I mean in the boards I've been at past dozen years there's very few regulars to remember you. Anons come and go. Despite this general being quite fast anons don't forget here. Takes me back to better times ..
>and in all oportunities you talk about past threads
Except with the last reimu, yet I got called out immediately anyway :) So why bother
>I call bullshit, but ain't gonna get pissed if you make me eat my words, pyw.
All the 3 faces I've posted here have been ~decent, have they not? Though style-wise I hit something really close to optimal with the last reimu, like holy shit.
Anyway I will definitely post more here with time. You guys made me out to be some sort of prodigy, I'm utterly curious to see myself if it's true.
But for now I'm being filtered by poses again.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 19:04:09 2023 No.6682217 File: 72 KB, 701x889, sai_ZoYZA3P8J3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] hmmmmmmmmmmmmm yeah I'm thinkin this is about the right size

mkl Wed May 31 19:09:36 2023 No.6682222

>>6681452
try to implement the background at the same time that the main character. You could also try to put a better contrast with the shadows and lights, but i can see that the colors of the reference are the way they are. another thing is that for example, the bottom lip is a bit different from the reference, as well as the nose and the jaw. But even these little details,it is a very beautiful drawing :)

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 19:11:30 2023 No.6682226 File: 1.79 MB, 2300x2600, untit.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 19:12:37 2023 No.6682230 File: 1.98 MB, 2048x2048, training session 31.05.2023.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Alright tell me what can be improved, I want to go somewhere into semi/full realism without doing hyper-details.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 19:23:26 2023 No.6682241 >>6682102 with

Anonymous Wed May 31 19:31:50 2023 No.6682249

>>6682230
1) i think the brush your using might be holding you back from things looking more realistic, it would probably benefit you to try a basic round brush w opacity connected to pressure

2) shading according to material. a good example is with the metal, which is high contrast with extreme lights and darks. there’s plenty of videos and stuff online about shading metal and other materials so i won’t go to much into it

3) in general better brush economy and shading (more contrast/ hue shifting are some things that pop into my head for shading… plenty of videos on those topics too so i recommend looking for some)

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 19:33:22 2023 No.6682252 File: 333 KB, 1280x1826, 5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6682241 SATANIA

Anonymous Wed May 31 19:37:20 2023 No.6682261

>>6682230
adding in to number 2 i also recommend studying the materials you want to draw from reference… if you don’t have much experience with using reference/studying my general workflow for it is

1) copy/trace/colorpick from reference to you hearts content

2) only look at reference without using the methods from step one. you can also reference your drawing from step one

3) put all that away and try to use what you learned from imagination

4) repeat til your happy

ik it sounds boring but it helps a lot. you can also use other artists’ works as reference if you like the way they draw a certain thing.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 19:53:10 2023 No.6682274 >>6682252 God I wish that were me.

Anonymous Wed May 31 20:11:22 2023 No.6682285
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>>6682209
>All the 3 faces I've posted here have been ~decent, have they not?
I searched for them, they are all at the 3/4 angle.
Just to make clear, I ain't crabbing, you wrote
>once I've done a thing X from angle Y, I can do it again "out of imagination"
You gotta prove this affirmation mate, this is the kinda shit that gets you a job. So, for the benefit of the doubt that you don't know what you are talking about. This is "I can draw the head at any angle" (Pic related)
I even made it on something close to your style, all using your pics as reference.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 20:18:09 2023 No.6682292 File: 172 KB, 1376x1932, 86DC63CC-74B5-4445-9763-1E52F5F21C91.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6681238 But metal doesnt look like that does it

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 20:19:44 2023 No.6682296 >>6682230 Textures

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 20:22:28 2023 No.6682298 What are some courses and exercises you can do to up your line and shape game?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 20:25:18 2023 No.6682307 >>6682156 Her left hand looks fucked

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 20:30:27 2023 No.6682316 File: 474 KB, 1616x2048, Fxe7bbWWwAUErun.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6681183 >>6681238 thank u :D

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 20:31:38 2023 No.6682319 File: 567 KB, 2008x2048, Fxab65SXgAEql33.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6682316

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 20:45:43 2023 No.6682341 File: 249 KB, 712x1000, TIGHT BOOBA.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6682292 GIVE BOOBA, ME GIBS METAL

Anonymous Wed May 31 20:52:51 2023 No.6682355
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>log into google account to use YouTube
>every recommended video is just shit I've seen a billion times already
>log out of Google account
>YouTube now full of art channels including Japanese and east Asia ones

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 20:56:51 2023 No.6682360 >>6682355 to be fair the jpn/east asian ones are usually really helpful if they have captions

Anonymous Wed May 31 20:58:26 2023 No.6682362
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>>6682285
>You gotta prove this affirmation mate,
AAAH I did not want to post these shitty messes but you're making me. I was doing this the other day to reality check myself, can I even draw it again? Of course I can. Tried to optimize the cheek/jawline a bit too.
Though I discovered I really struggle drawing a face from above. And I have no idea how the neck works. And I hate hair. And that my pixelshit is not good for sketching, I hate it so much. Sort of jealous you can throw a couple lines together and even if the face is a bit derpy it works.

Anonymous Wed May 31 21:02:24 2023 No.6682365

>>6682341
this pervert kinda has a point… while they don’t have to be this overblown, if the character does have boobs you would probably be able to see them. though you would probably want to make them behave more realistically, (if artist who made this is female she probably would know this, but i’m not gonna assume) as boobs tend to flatten when bound or pressed, i’m too tired to trace over it rn tho

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 21:07:57 2023 No.6682373 File: 411 KB, 1105x1086, ch.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6682156 made some changes

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 21:08:54 2023 No.6682374 >>6682362 You type like a cute femboy, post penis so I can draw you getting raped by me

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 21:10:12 2023 No.6682375 >>6682373 This pic is awesome anon, PRO tier level. Her face, her hair. The stance and silhouette FUCKING SAVED.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 21:12:50 2023 No.6682380 I'm gonna devour some lyrica pills and will DRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW through the night

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 21:27:54 2023 No.6682401 >>6682373 i think you killed it anon but the back flap on her outfit kinda fucks with the silhouette and makes her ass look much larger at first glance

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 21:32:39 2023 No.6682406 >>6682373 Agreed with >>6682401 I thought it was a shadow at first desu. Maybe make it 3d instead of flat?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 21:35:26 2023 No.6682414 File: 30 KB, 564x846, pose.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i just cant figure out how can i do this pose with poses. I dont know wow it feels so tricky. Any help or tips to get this pose well done

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 21:42:22 2023 No.6682420 >>6682406 >>6682401 >>6682373 >1st glance Its all I see, even now. Half the people who see this will interpret it as a huge leg

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 21:43:04 2023 No.6682421 >>6682414 The main problem i have is the pelvis in that perspective

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 21:47:41 2023 No.6682430 File: 309 KB, 1105x1086, Maybe.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6682373 Not a fix, but just an idea of could it look like

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 22:01:36 2023 No.6682444 File: 110 KB, 563x789, gagagagssgsagasg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] thank you guys for discussing my drawing here is new sketch

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 22:04:09 2023 No.6682445 >>6682444 her neck looks broken, the neck doesn’t really bend like that

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 22:04:59 2023 No.6682446 >>6682373 I thought this was a coom drawing and was disappointed the breasts weren't up to par with the ass until I realize it was clothing.

Anonymous Wed May 31 22:05:02 2023 No.6682447
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>>6682414
Well, needed a dynamic pose so I tried it (Pic), you need to keep the gesture and form in mind, notice that it's basically a contraposto viewed from above.
>>6682362
>can I even draw it again? Of course I can
Kek, gonna leave you at it anon, good luck.
About necks, quick tip, they come from behind the head.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 22:05:11 2023 No.6682448 File: 216 KB, 916x954, tempimg.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 22:05:55 2023 No.6682449 >>6682445 i meant to say head ahah, the head doesn’t rotate independently of the neck liek that, it also looks a bit long (the neck)

Anonymous Wed May 31 22:20:10 2023 No.6682465
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>>6682374
There

>>6682447
>Kek
What, I know it looks like ass but its 30min shit.
As long as I can get the head shape and eyes right, rest is just a matter of refining the turd. The original reimu looked a lot worse than this at first.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 22:35:08 2023 No.6682481 File: 55 KB, 600x680, krita_AYQf919mI0.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] First time trying to draw a full body, could really use some advice on what to improve in terms of anatomy/proportions

Anonymous Wed May 31 22:35:52 2023 No.6682482
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>>6682414
I don't know. I guess, there's nothing to it, but to do it. Feel it man. Have fun. Copy that one reference, and try to simplify it. And do it again, and again, and again. You like the pose and the gesture. That's hard to translate. You have to jump in swim in the thing you want.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 22:35:55 2023 No.6682483 >>6682481 bones should show at the joints

Anonymous Wed May 31 22:39:39 2023 No.6682487
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>>6681575
Sorry if I sound retarded, but how would more layers help? I used only two layers here, one for the hair and one for the skin/clothes, but it's so much easier for me to blend and mix colors together with just one, like you would do traditionally.

>>6682222
Thanks for the feedback anon. Perhaps I bit off more than I could chew with this reference, I might need to go back and do more life drawings.

Anonymous Wed May 31 22:40:51 2023 No.6682491

>>6682444
Dude, you're are the Chun-li guy? you're knocking shit outta the park man! That sketch is already awesome! It reminds me to those based capcom art styles from the 90s, keep at it man. It looks solid, and dynamic, and NICE. again silhouette and the face, fucking perfect.

Anonymous Wed May 31 22:41:57 2023 No.6682493

>see a video on doing 15 minute quick sketches daily
>decide to give it a try
>takes not 15 but 30 minutes to complete one sketch, and it's awful with glaring mistakes remaining from rushing
>have to break the video's instructional rule of not zooming in to avoid the worst, beg-est hand I've ever seen drawn ever
>artist in video not only finished sketch in 15, but had enough time left at the end to fully paint in color
dying on the floor

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 22:46:32 2023 No.6682497 File: 730 KB, 1910x1070, 1112521312.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] wip, not sure how to make it pop. also the values are prolly too fucked, maybe its best to just start over

Anonymous Wed May 31 22:48:44 2023 No.6682501

>>6682493
You are not understanding the point of the exercise. Do 15 minutes even if it looks bad. Try to figure out how to optimize your work flow to fit into that 15 minute time block better. Over the course of a month your 15 minute sketch will improve in quality and so will your time managment skills. "Speed" is a completely unseen "stat" by the observer but is an integral part of an artists skill set. It is wrong to assume that by drawing a lot will mean you will just get faster naturally. Speed and efficiency is something you have to practice.

Anonymous Wed May 31 22:50:55 2023 No.6682503

>>6682493
i saw that video too haha, i recommend just doing the 15 minute sketch and not worrying about mistake fixing, as timed activities mainly work on your speed/observation from my experience, and follow the rule of not zooming in (if you want to get better at hands to a separate study of that)

just make sure that you point out the mistakes to yourself, and if you have the time to extend the sketch to 30 minutes then you’d probably have time to do a 5-10 minute sketch (a SEPARATE sketch, it’s better to not get too caught up in the details and fixing stuff) making sure to avoid your mistakes

but hey, what do i know ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Anonymous Wed May 31 22:53:53 2023 No.6682508

>>6682497
you probably already know this but to make a character pop from a background there should be a change in saturatation, hue, or value. all of those are generally too similar in this image. you could probably use curves or something to adjust that stuff if it’s available in your software (just select the characters and have at it)

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 22:55:32 2023 No.6682510 >>6682493 Lmao, I feel this. Can you send the link? >>6682487 >but how would more layers help? Cause if you computer doesn't explode while drawing, you are doing something wrong.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 23:07:26 2023 No.6682518 File: 3.20 MB, 8331x5234, horse_2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just trying digital, many more horse-like creatures to come

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 23:24:03 2023 No.6682544 File: 602 KB, 1000x439, Untitled596_20230531182201.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] my first attempts at using loomis+reference for drawing faces. thoughts? is there a better way to do this?

Anonymous Wed May 31 23:27:11 2023 No.6682548
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>>6682518
Good, don't listen to the crabs now. Focus on getting used to the tablet. That's an amazing drawing if you're just starting digital.

A red line is not fair now, (I did the body but that's not important, you have the reference there for sure), What I could advice is to do a solid shape for the hair, so you can simulate speed, direction and weight, even when the figure is still.
Keep at it man. Digital is awesome for grinding, it helps to speed up the process a lot.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 23:29:35 2023 No.6682551 how do you make tiny strokes using the shoulder instead of the wrist? My tablet is 10", not 10'.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 23:30:58 2023 No.6682552 >>6682544 Loomis is the best way to draw faces as a beginner. Your faces will look terrible for a while because they are hard to draw though

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 23:36:50 2023 No.6682560 File: 1.77 MB, 4067x2696, nate___282_by_elaineselenestock_d3knl32.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6682548 Thanks bro, totally forgot about the hair thing

Anonymous Wed May 31 23:49:50 2023 No.6682576
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>>6682497
Very cool! I like the character and your style buddy.
I think curves can fix it,or rendering a little more,you don’t need to start it all over again!
(Unless you want to,of course)
-
It is already finished,but the arm still bothers me a lot…can someone help me with it?
Is it just too wide,or is the pose itself weird?
Im not much fond of anatomy and perspective as you can see soeksoksso
I think i’m really bad at volumes,sadly i don’t know many lessons about it

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 23:50:33 2023 No.6682577 >>6682551 you use your wrist

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 23:58:28 2023 No.6682587 >>6682576 >"hey, want to see me ruin a decent drawing really hard?" >draws hands

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 23:59:18 2023 No.6682589 >>6682576 it's the hands, go study the structure of the hand torso also feels a bit flat but that might be inexperience with clothes

Anonymous Thu Jun 1 00:00:26 2023 No.6682591
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>>6682414
first thing locate the contrapposto and then divide the body into boxes to find the main angles between the head, ribcage and pelvis
anyways, where are people finding these figure pics

Anonymous Thu Jun 1 00:09:28 2023 No.6682598

>>6682587
Yeah i thought so,desu i wasn’t even planning to make hands but i went to try sodmsokssosl
Hands and clothing folds are the bane of my existence

>>6682589
Do you have any tips for the clothes?
I do am very inexperienced with clothes imo lfmao
I’m very inconsistent with hands,i’ve made decent ones before,but now…uh,it looks so stupid
I’m trying to save my time now to finally practice a little before drawing for other people again,i want to learn a decent amount

By the way,
thanks for the fast answer in advance,anons!

Anonymous Thu Jun 1 00:10:20 2023 No.6682599
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>>6682576
not sure if i’m qualified to be critiquing your work as it’s much better than mine but here’s the edits i made (ignore the messing cleanup haha

1) made the arms less bendy [ from (( to || ]

2) made the silhouette clearer but moving the arm so it juts out more

Anonymous Thu Jun 1 00:18:54 2023 No.6682605

>>6682598
>desu
Ok my corrector cringed on me real hard now
“To be honest i wasn’t even(…)”

>>6682599
Oh thanks!
I do noticed the arms were curvy like “((“ but,thanks for pointing that out…and no worries about the messy cleanup!
I appreciate!
The silhouette thing made it looks more interesting

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 00:20:23 2023 No.6682608 >>6682598 >clothes study the figure first, you drape clothes atop the body

Anonymous Thu Jun 1 00:25:50 2023 No.6682614

>>6682605
sorry i just realized how dumb i sounded with the )) comparison

also this was a different post but for clothing i just recommend studying from reference/ looking at reference for the types of clothing you want to draw, it’s done wonders for me in the past.

references are also helpful for drawing clothing that makes sense irl for character designs cause i usually draw really nonsensical clothing when it’s from imagination, but maybe that’s a me problem ;(

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 00:26:46 2023 No.6682616 >>6682591 NTA but stuff like this is very helpful even as a bystander

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 00:35:45 2023 No.6682627 >>6682444 why hasnt putin send you to fight ukraine?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 00:39:42 2023 No.6682631 >>6682591 NTA but Good tip! I never knew about it myself,many anons pointed i needed to learn the pelvis/ribcage area before,i think this is going to help me a lot,too!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 00:40:10 2023 No.6682633 File: 164 KB, 768x960, b9b90e94687bd3752df5cfbef7e259a1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Since no one posts some homework.. let's draw this rock and put cute faces on it or something

Anonymous Thu Jun 1 00:45:47 2023 No.6682636

>>6682608
Ah,that’s a good point,thanks again!!!
Ill do my best!

>>6682614
No worries,im glad for the help!
I struggle a little with references,but i’ll try,since i finally have the time to!
And i see,i don’t think is a “me problem” only,no…
My clothings are so fucked up dude :”) I wanna learn it as soon as possible,but i do know it takes time,so…

>>6682633
This sounds so silly,awww
I kinda wanna try it now
And true,i dont saw any homeworks here before

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 00:49:34 2023 No.6682638 File: 180 KB, 590x866, Screenshot 2023-05-31 203119.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6681312 Todays grind

Anonymous Thu Jun 1 00:53:09 2023 No.6682644
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>>6682576
A quick fix, I hope it helps. Dude the Pic is BEAUTIFUL. Hands are hard, even for good artists. Specially closed hands. If you feel the shape doesn't make it for you, try other gesture, till you feel it. Shape appeal is like tuning stations in old radios.

I love the picture, keep at it man.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 01:00:25 2023 No.6682653 File: 233 KB, 540x1060, rock.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6682633 I tried

Anonymous Thu Jun 1 01:01:58 2023 No.6682656

>>6682638
Very Pretty!! <333

>>6682644
Holy cow,you’re fast!!
These are some good examples,and thanks for the compliment,i feel honored!

Tuning stations in old radios,you say? I’ll try to remember that,is very poetic,in a good way!
Thanks so much buddy!!! I’ll do my best,i promise!

i received more replies than i thought i would,ill remember what y’all suggested,perhaps do another piece for a better use of the practice!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 01:02:53 2023 No.6682658 >>6682638 a day well spent!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 01:04:40 2023 No.6682661 >>6682638 where is her chin

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 01:04:52 2023 No.6682662 >>6682577 >you use your wrist but isn't that bad?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 01:05:30 2023 No.6682664 >>6682656 Do you want to be my online BF?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 01:06:15 2023 No.6682666 >>6682656 Be my gf

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 01:07:56 2023 No.6682668 >>6682638 perspective on the womb tattoo is throwing me off

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 01:08:56 2023 No.6682670 >>6682664 >>6682666 ??? >>6682662 I’m pretty sure it depends on the situation,no? >>6682658 Fr fr,keep it up buddy!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 01:10:06 2023 No.6682672 >>6682662 for longer smoother strokes (stuff like lineart and drawing big lines) it’s bad, but for short, detailed strokes theres no problem with it

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 01:10:06 2023 No.6682673 File: 26 KB, 469x581, merightnow.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6682670 >fr fr It's over.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 01:12:27 2023 No.6682677 >>6682656 ig everyone fell in love with you lmao on another note, i had fun editing the arm on your piece, hope i’m able to recognize for art on here in the future:D

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 01:18:11 2023 No.6682686 >>6682668 I am only human

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 01:19:01 2023 No.6682688 >>6682670 sex with bratty zoomers

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 01:24:45 2023 No.6682694 >>6682677 Bold of them to assume im a suportable person Thanks again! I hope so,too Good luck with your own stuff anon :} >>6682688 LFMAOOOO I am wheezing

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 01:25:43 2023 No.6682696 can you increase skill by doing construction right over the reference material so it's pseudo-tracing

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 01:26:33 2023 No.6682697 >>6682696 yes

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 01:30:36 2023 No.6682700 >>6682696 you can, i recommend this process > trace construction > drawing using image and traced version as reference >put all that away and draw from imagination

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 01:36:01 2023 No.6682704 >>6682696 If you are doing it analytically instead of mechanically it's fine.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 01:43:13 2023 No.6682710 There is a stinky foid in my thread spreading positivity I don't like this bros, I thought we are supposed to crab each other and bathe ourselves in self loathing?

Anonymous Thu Jun 1 01:46:03 2023 No.6682712
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>>6682656
No prob, Thanks. Doing it for fun is the key. Don't be scared by the goblins here, I think they believe you're a girl or something, remember you're an artist first of anything else, kick everyone away, keep posting stuff, and have fun. No one else matters, ever.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 01:56:05 2023 No.6682721 File: 482 KB, 2651x1445, 20230531_195141~3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Surprised I'd never seen anybody use a fencing manual as reference on here. Here's a quickie based on Fabris.

Anonymous Thu Jun 1 02:26:26 2023 No.6682749
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>>6682696
Finally someone brings this out. OF COURSE it is ok to trace reference as a grinding exercise, and it will speed your progress. There's a lot of shit old people say, like "don't use a ruler", "don't trace", "don't copy", Jesus Fucking Christ. COPY, TRACE, COPY, TRACE, COPY, TRACE Till is embedded in your fucking DNA. Because your goal is not to draw any of the things you reference but talk your own talk, you won't be doing anything like the stuff you use as reference.
And with the digital tools today the tracing exercise is optimized completely. You don't need fucking light tables, and crazy shit, you can mirror your work with a key, is fucking awesome the tools we have today.
Just do it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 02:33:14 2023 No.6682755 File: 1.02 MB, 3168x1512, studies0106.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] today's studies

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 02:41:04 2023 No.6682763 File: 731 KB, 2978x2016, 31_05_23.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Suggestions are always welcomed

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 02:42:44 2023 No.6682766 >>6682341 t-thanks coomer san >>6682365 the character doesn't have boobs

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 02:44:13 2023 No.6682767 >>6682766 they do now

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 02:55:29 2023 No.6682773 >>6682448 W-Why d-d-do y-you a-ask?...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 02:59:21 2023 No.6682777 File: 167 KB, 1626x1294, lme.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6682448 I very much like the style, especially the face anon! You don't see noses often in these threads. I would have sex with that rat.

Anonymous Thu Jun 1 03:05:52 2023 No.6682784
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Hello beg, please come to my pool house party. I started liking this style of soulless sterile lines for buildings and wobbly lines for people and objects.

>>6682644
i kneel
>>6681643
you forgot to pyw

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 03:13:40 2023 No.6682790 >>6682544 You could use the paper method if it suits u more. https://youtu.be/QBv5z0Y2odE

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 03:18:38 2023 No.6682794 File: 482 KB, 777x1268, 7yzcp6gw.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6682481 tons of shit needs to be fixed but if you can get better at these 2 the rest can pass, mostly the hair.

Anonymous Thu Jun 1 03:32:38 2023 No.6682804

>>6682721
Nice, I would have chose another reference like a pose we always see, but I guess you chose a hard one, so kudos to you man. Keep at it.

>>6682755
Well done buddy. Today was a good day.

>>6682763
Dude, there's no suggestions, you're doing the real hard one thing, you're grinding. The only suggestion is to stay in that lane man, as much as you can.

Anonymous Thu Jun 1 03:35:01 2023 No.6682807
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Drawing is fun, sad that I only started now at 25. Well I'm a neet and can spend 16 hours a day drawing, but my gay therapist wants me to get a job but she can suck my fat dick, I will continue to leech of the state and draw. I don't need a girlfriend when I can draw them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 03:41:15 2023 No.6682813 Ah, nice, another episode of the "copy of a drawing looks off despite miniscule differences" Might unironically lean into "muh style" and just ignore the issue.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 03:41:17 2023 No.6682814 >>6682807 you are a neet for a reason, you will be a fucking beg for a long time even if you could draw for 24h

Anonymous Thu Jun 1 03:41:50 2023 No.6682817

>>6682784
Perspective anon, I've been obsessed with that style, that modernist 40's 50's, I think its called mid-century. Thanks for that picture. you're real good man. I would love to understand that style, and draw 50s 60s fashion people, having a drink in a yard like that.
Cool one man. And thanks for >i kneel >>6682644

I kneel to your yard drinking party as well. Keep them coming.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 03:47:39 2023 No.6682822 File: 3.54 MB, 640x480, AC-bu.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6682784 reminds me of this somewhat

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 03:48:06 2023 No.6682823 >>6682807 Anon, at 25 you found your ultimate truth, I'm proud of you. It took much longer to see that to a lot of us. I wish I could be 25 again and grind like you're about to do. T___T

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 04:05:56 2023 No.6682843 File: 276 KB, 930x1057, tempimg.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6682773 >>6682777 rato

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 04:21:06 2023 No.6682852 >>6682817 >Perspective anon excuse me that's the CEO of /beg/

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 04:24:50 2023 No.6682861 >>6682822 VGST

Anonymous Thu Jun 1 05:20:33 2023 No.6682903

>>6680357
sorry if this is a commonly asked question, but i ctrl+f'd the completed sticky and i dont think there was anything i could find for it.

are any good resources for boob size charts? specifically accurate ones that aren't meant for NSFW artists.

i tried googling around for this, but i could only find vague bra size charts (and celebrity size comparisons???).

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 05:26:24 2023 No.6682905 File: 389 KB, 1728x1190, 4E18940B-5901-42A3-A071-A95617CD4125.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6682560 Wanted to draw the horse too

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 05:45:09 2023 No.6682922 >>6682905 Cool, it actually looks like a colt.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 06:17:10 2023 No.6682957 >>6682922 Thanks anon, I like to draw their faces but their bodies seem very complicated

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 06:22:49 2023 No.6682963 >>6682957 I used that reference to do this one >>6682749 It is greatly simplified, maybe you can use it as another reference to simplify the overall figure and key shapes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 06:24:32 2023 No.6682965 >>6682963 That's a good idea! I'll give it a try, I think your break down of the shapes is really nice.

Anonymous Thu Jun 1 07:08:45 2023 No.6682999
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Could anyone point me a course on colours and painting? I know that the structure is beg as shit but not being able to even polish shit makes me feel stuck.
I don't want to go back to the "Do nothing but sketches beacuse you are grinding bruh" phase.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 07:17:24 2023 No.6683001 File: 1.93 MB, 1644x1080, figure study 7 character.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6681531 >>6681587

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 07:19:52 2023 No.6683003 >>6682999 https://youtu.be/yEWiYWC1aeQ https://youtu.be/Wvng0oPkNy4 https://youtu.be/VPAoWWk4LVs https://youtu.be/MndJKaMQACY https://youtu.be/VXL4QyDXht4 https://youtu.be/2xZArgjlhO4 https://youtu.be/hTh9NpGPeYw https://youtu.be/qZPXxLOUSSY

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 09:56:18 2023 No.6683092 >>6682430 this looks worse

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 10:45:03 2023 No.6683112 NEW THREAD >>6683111 >>6683111 >>6683111

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