/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.6665384]

should i learn how to use real, practical AI tools right now, or waste over 9000 hours grinding the fundies?

[Anonymous No.6665385]

>>6665384
do you want to make art?

[Anonymous No.6665389]

>>6665384
Depends, do you want to be an artist or a parasite?
There is no middle ground btw.

[Anonymous No.6665390]

it’s over, raj
just wait for the next grift, ai is nft tier now

[Anonymous No.6665395]

She changes race lol

[Anonymous No.6665396]

>>6665385
yep. i want to make GREAT looking pieces.
clients don't give a shit about the process, and neither do i

[Anonymous No.6665401]

>>6665396
if YOU want to MAKE then grind.

[Anonymous No.6665404]

>>6665401
should i start by making my pigments and manually weaving my canvas?

[Anonymous No.6665412]

>>6665404
you could start by not being a disingenuous faggot

[Anonymous No.6665422]

>>6665384
>I'm an artist

[Anonymous No.6665428]

>>6665422
if you're able to make compelling art using that, then i guess you are?

[Anonymous No.6665434]

>>6665404
>AIcuck cannot help himself from making retarded analogies to prove their childish point
what are you comparing "making your own canvas" with?

[Anonymous No.6665439]

>>6665434
i dunno, whatever useless shit virgin /ic/ beginners are into nowadays: drawing 10000 cubes by hand, maybe?

[Anonymous No.6665440]

>>6665428

[Anonymous No.6665443]

aicucks act just like nft and cryptocucks

[Anonymous No.6665447]

>>6665439
poor fucking schizo, you can't even form a coherent thought. why do you even care about making art with anything, if you can't even tie your shoe laces

[Anonymous No.6665448]

>>6665443
>republicans are flat-earthers, misogynists, nazis, and racists

[Anonymous No.6665449]

>>6665384
Fundies.

[Anonymous No.6665450]

>>6665447
great rebuttal, champ. now try thinking before posting

[Anonymous No.6665452]

>>6665443
they're the same tech hype idea guys faggots who's only drive in life is to jump on the next money making scheme
>>6665448
direction brained mutt, the entire world doesn't revolve around you

[Anonymous No.6665453]

>>6665449
okay

[sage No.6665456]

having fun?

[Anonymous No.6665457]

>>6665384
>changes race
lmao is this small dopamine-hit update supposed to mean something

[Anonymous No.6665460]

what compels fa/g/gots to make constant new threads here about their worthless tech while asking disingenuous questions? it's like the tech version of picrel

[Anonymous No.6665461]

>>6665439
LMAO

[Anonymous No.6665463]

>>6665456
this. grinding is no fun. making cool art is

[Anonymous No.6665464]

>>6665384
isn't AI getting curbstomped out of every monetized platform out there? i think the answer is obvious.

[Anonymous No.6665466]

>>6665464
real clients offering real works in the industy don't give a shit about your furry porn platforms

[Anonymous No.6665467]

>>6665384
What kind of biased question is this? Fuck off pajeet.

[Anonymous No.6665473]

>>6665466
What industry? You know most companies won't touch AI with a ten foot pole due to the legal nightmare it is right? Also that one steam game that got review bombed for being trash and having AI generated slop, lmao.

[Anonymous No.6665476]

>>6665466
is that why you're seething so hard?

[Anonymous No.6665479]

>>6665476
AIfags really believe art is some mystical talent you're born with, very sad.

[Anonymous No.6665484]

>>6665476
Holy kek. Which one of you guys bullied this technerd in highschool?

[Anonymous No.6665489]

>>6665466
I hate when AI niggers like you who clearly have never worked in the industry nor indie commision at all spouting bullshit like this. What's the next retarded shit you gonna say? Concept artists are the first to run out of job? Or you can make 5 goriilion dollar per minute with AI art LEGALLY?

[Anonymous No.6665499]

>>6665466
it seems like this really hit a nerve with /ic/ eternal begs

[Anonymous No.6665515]

>>6665404
Depends, do you want to be a paint maker, a canvas maker, or an artist?

[Anonymous No.6665518]

>it seems like this really hit a nerve with /ic/ eternal begs

[Anonymous No.6665675]

>>6665476
>wyro
Reminder, even the stablediffusion fags on r*ddit thought he was being a gigantic faggot.

[Anonymous No.6665700]

>>6665384
Since you clearly don't like creating art and just want the psyschosocial bullshit title of "artist":
Learning to draw by yourself will gain you the envy and scorn of begs for the rest of your life.
Learning to proompt will last you only as long as entry level apus catch on and there's a free zero commitment web app for proompting. So like two years max.

[Anonymous No.6665736]

>>6665384
It's looking worse and worse for ai niggers, you're better off learning to co- oh never mind.

[Anonymous No.6665749]

>>6665384
cool tool. much better than photoshop's face ai shit or old liquify. i could add this to my workflow
anyone knows where can i download this?

[Anonymous No.6665758]

>>6665749
you don't draw though faggot AI nigger

[Anonymous No.6665763]

>>6665448
Yes if that’s how you feel.

[Anonymous No.6665765]

>>6665758
i bet i paint better than you, kid. if you ever have a real job, you'll understand how valuable are tools that can save you time.

[Anonymous No.6665767]

>should I 'learn' the unskilled job of moving levers that any sub-70iq monkey could replace me at?
you might just, yes, if you have to ask

[Anonymous No.6665769]

>>6665384
Grind the fundies. This is an art critique board, so you know what you’re asking.

[Anonymous No.6665787]

>>6665443

It's the same group of people.

[Anonymous No.6665792]

>>6665384
spend the 4 hours it takes to master ai tools, then you have 8996 hours left to do real art

[Anonymous No.6665796]

(You) will never be an artist.
(You) will never succeed to any worthwhile thing in life, as you waste the opportunity for self-improvement and reflection that art gives.
(You) will always be considered the lowest of the low, a grifter whose reputation will always remain tarnished as even normies despise you and specifically avoid you.

If you mongolians didn't act like unhinged trannies attacking an entire community to try and grift them for a quick buck, perhaps more people would have been accepting of AI. But alas, you all seem determined to make yourself look like the villain in the eyes of the masses, completely unable to control yourselves. This, unironically, is all your own doing.

[Anonymous No.6665797]

>>6665765
Proompter isnt a job cunt

[Anonymous No.6665806]

>>6665384
>learn how to use AI tools
No point. The next generation of AI tools will have a more advanced interface, and any skills you might pick up now will just be baked into the AI itself. I'm expecting full voice control, with all the required software bundled into every smart device you can buy. Instead of needing to fiddle with sliders and buttons, any four-year-old will be able to simply order the television to draw her favorite cartoon character, or a picture of her mom, and get good results.
The final goal, of course, is making the AI capable of operating independently, with zero human control or oversight.

[Anonymous No.6665814]

>>6665792
THIS. a little more than four hours, but you got the right idea:
First, learn how to get shit done, fast and dirty
Later, you're free to autoinflict with all the crutches you want, if that makes you happy. no need to get mad at the newer, better tools
>>6665806
Yeah, you're not supposed to take a decade learning a tool: learn fast, and use what you know right now. Nobody knows what will happen tomorrow

[Anonymous No.6665817]

>this is supposed to be the same person
lol
lmao

[Anonymous No.6665828]

>>6665817
right >>> left

[Anonymous No.6665851]

>>6665476
Reminder that this guy is a seething furfag who was clearly just mad nobody cared about him in his furfag communities because he is incapable of making anything.

[Anonymous No.6665855]

>>6665817
>AI literally removes your Asian jeans

[Anonymous No.6665861]

>>6665476
It's always funny how these fags, in their "lol u just got pwned artist" rants, conveniently ignore that the only way it can "replace" an artist is if they directly use an artist's works to make a targeted picture shitter.

[Anonymous No.6665863]

>>6665384
it's not wasteful you daft cunt, it's useful because you can make great drawings from your own hands
AI for commercial purposes isn't legal
most big companies know the database wasn't ethically sourced. if they won't risk it, neither should you

[Anonymous No.6665870]

>>6665863
>AI for commercial purposes isn't legal
literally Adobe is offering AI image generation now, shit's gonna get included in the next version of photoshop, and you know what that means.

[Anonymous No.6665873]

>>6665476
>this makes the artcuck fighting for a 40 dollar furry commission seethe
>one of the most active threads on this board is literally the furry art general
>not a single person posting his own art because it looks like shit even compared to SD
everytime; never change /ic/

[Anonymous No.6665878]

>>6665476
they hated him because he told the truth

[Anonymous No.6665881]

>>6665873
>>6665878
Hi wyro. Still seething that nobody wants your prompts and you alienated the only people thar might have cared?

[Anonymous No.6665883]

>>6665476
lmao did he got mopped by e621 jannies or what?

[Anonymous No.6665892]

>>6665881
Why are you quoting me you disgusting furry nigger

[Anonymous No.6665895]

>>6665892
What are you going to do, downdoot me?

[Anonymous No.6665904]

>>6665396
the same thing stopping you from learning to draw is stopping you from making bank selling ai pictures to unsuspecting clients: your laziness.

Nobody is stopping you from creating AI art, you don't need the approval of artists. But deep down you know its just hollow. Its like fucking a fleshlight. You want the real thing, but its hard. I get it, we all get it. There's no shame in toiling away grinding the fundies, and there's no shame in making AI art. Just enjoy what you do.

[Anonymous No.6665910]

>>6665904
Not that anon but personally I'm not selling AI art because I'm too busy selling 3D models. (With AI assistance).

AI tools helped improve my workflow and I can shit out so much content you wouldn't believe it. What took me dozens of hours a year ago is now just a few clicks and some manual clean-up especially in the texturing department.

[Anonymous No.6665925]

>>6665910
stop being lazy. aren't you ashamed? you're literally masturbating, while the chads drawing 1000 cubes by hand are cumming in the art's pussy

[Anonymous No.6665937]

>>6665904
>>6665925
it's all about the money to these poor kikes

[Anonymous No.6665939]

>>6665817
outrageous

[Anonymous No.6666000]

>>6665910
And then everyone stood up and clapped.

[Anonymous No.6666040]

>>6665765
You'll understand the value of tools that eliminate the need to pay you within the next decade

[Anonymous No.6666042]

>>6666000
>Those digits
/thread

[Anonymous No.6666060]

>>6665384
Why is this so creepy looking and gross?
Anyway, it takes minutes to learn this AI crap, that's the entire point, pick it up whenever you want, so start your grinding now I guess.

[Anonymous No.6666061]

>>6665384
is there something like this but for boobs?

[Anonymous No.6666073]

>>6665870
and it will be far more limited because the dataset is will be all copyright free, meaning no more artist styles and work to pick from for you. it will become a tool for artist, like it should have been from the start.

[Anonymous No.6666082]

>one AI sperg thread reaches auto-sage
>another spawns right after
I hate /g/ retards so much trying to make their general here

[Anonymous No.6666098]

>>6666061
It is for boobs too. They're going to expand it to 3D models as well.

[Anonymous No.6666101]

>>6666082
Yeah literally like half the boards on 4chan have an (astroturfed blatantly) ai general. They refuse to go to any of those threads and insist on trying to post here

[Anonymous No.6666106]

>>6666101
it's all spite and trying to gloat over borrowed power

[Anonymous No.6666108]

>>6666101
>>6666106
>why do people like good art they can make easily???
The better question is why you don't.

[Anonymous No.6666111]

>>6666106
>>6666101
preach it, sisters

[Anonymous No.6666112]

>>6666108
because im not a soulless indian

[Anonymous No.6666113]

>>6666108
if you need to ask said better question you're already missing the point
>art
>make

[Anonymous No.6666114]

>>6666112
>>6666113
You can't even answer earnestly because you know you're on the wrong side of history. Cope and seethe.

[Anonymous No.6666115]

>>6666111
we hit the nerve of the uncreative git

[Anonymous No.6666119]

>>6666114
you have a truthful answer, you just refuse to see it.

[Anonymous No.6666120]

>>6666114
you mean like how law keeps tightening the noose around AI? no one is buying it nigger

[Anonymous No.6666130]

>>6666120
What law? Adobe is a criminal?
https://www.adobe.com/ca/sensei/generative-ai.html

[Anonymous No.6666134]

>>6665384
Depends on why you want to draw. If you want to draw because you find the process relaxing and fun then stick to the old way. If you're just concerned with making ideas in your mind into reality then stick with AI.

[Anonymous No.6666135]

>>6666130
nta but I really doubt it's as ethical as they claim

[Anonymous No.6666138]

>>6666134
fair

[Anonymous No.6666139]

>>6666134
>making ideas in your mind into reality
the biggest illusion of AI

[Anonymous No.6666141]

>>6666130
>https://www.adobe.com/ca/sensei/generative-ai.html
>"Generative AI, as with any AI, is only as good as the data on which it’s trained. Mitigating harmful outputs starts with building and training on safe and inclusive datasets. For example, Adobe’s first model in our Firefly family of creative generative AI models is trained on Adobe Stock images, openly licensed content, and public domain content where copyright has expired. Training on curated, diverse datasets inherently gives your model a competitive edge when it comes to producing commercially safe and ethical results."
What makes you think I'm not okay with this? This is excellent for us.
You faggots keep thinking we are luddites, we just don't want you stealing our work. As long as the datasets are ethically sourced then it means I can use this in my workflow without worrying about being replaced by it. This is what we are pushing for, the fact that you think I would be against this means you never understood our position in the first place and you are just here to argue in bad faith. Kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.6666143]

>>6666135
All model training is ethical. It's no different from gathering references.

>>6666141
I assure you no one has stolen your work. You cannot steal a JPG.

[Anonymous No.6666149]

>>6666143
Well Adobe seems to be afraid of stealing "JPG's" for their commercial dataset. Probably because they are legal literate, unlike you.

[Anonymous No.6666150]

>>6666149
>Well Adobe seems to be afraid of stealing "JPG's" for their commercial dataset.
No they don't. They're stealing plenty, just not everything because they know how temperamental you autists are. There is no law against training models on whatever you want so there is nothing legally stopping them from doing it. They're just virtue signaling.

[Anonymous No.6666151]

>>6666139
you're saying that AI can't make your idea a reality? Never used it myself but I've seen people create their own imagery and characters they wanted with it.

[Anonymous No.6666152]

>>6666143
>All model training is ethical. It's no different from gathering references.

and here we go again, if you're going to try and say it's the same as learning as humans, then be clear with this and let's give these models the same human autonomy of being able to own the copyright of whatever it generates. If you're gonna say that's not what you want then you're just retarded and arguing in bad faith. So which is it?

Why do you think companies like Adobe are trying to push a model trained on noncopyrighted material in the first place? You don't think it's to avoid the potential legal troubles companies might run into if they utilize models with copyrighted and stolen data? God you're absolutely fucking retarded

[Anonymous No.6666155]

>>6666143
>It's no different from gathering references.
it is fundamentally different, are we going to go over this again?

[Anonymous No.6666157]

>>6666150
There didn't used to be laws against childporn back when the camera was first invented either.

[Anonymous No.6666158]

>>6666150
Yeah they are definitely not scared of litigation. What a cope, kek.

[Anonymous No.6666159]

>>6666151
firstly they don't create, secondly they bargain with the code and convince themselves it's what they wanted all along. there's a difference between bringing forth something yourself and having something or someone do it for you. this is doubly important for art

[Anonymous No.6666163]

>>6666111
Funny how parasites like to post this when its their own fault they invaded Artstation and flooded the website with AI garbage and then they act like victims.
There is a name for this kind of behavior.

[Anonymous No.6666166]

>>6666150
>not taking abuse lying down is being temperamental
for someone who calls others autists you lack some human understanding

[Anonymous No.6666169]

>>6666157
pedo hysteria was fabricated in the 80s by the CIA to allow state mass-spionage, and ostracizing and incarcerating people that question the status quo.
it used to be the "war on drugs" before that, and witch hunting, mcarthism, etc
but you make an interesting point: image generation is gonna be censored using that excuse: pedobros are having a field day with stable diffusion right now.

[Anonymous No.6666171]

>>6666152
>So which is it?
A person creates a model with references. This is the same as a person creating art with references.
>Why do you think companies like Adobe are trying to push a model trained on noncopyrighted material in the first place? You don't think it's to avoid the potential legal troubles companies might run into if they utilize models with copyrighted and stolen data? God you're absolutely fucking retarded
But they did use copyrighted and ""stolen"" data...

>>6666155
It's objectively the same.

>>6666157
>There didn't used to be laws
Fascinating. Retard.

[Anonymous No.6666172]

>>6666166
What abuse? People making art? You're not well in the head.

[Anonymous No.6666173]

>>6666171
>But they did use copyrighted and ""stolen"" data...
>source: my stinky indian asshole

[Anonymous No.6666181]

>>6666172
you keep using this flawed premise

[Anonymous No.6666182]

>>6666159
>firstly they don't create
they don't? Then why can't I find any results when I reverse image search AI art?

>secondly they bargain with the code and convince themselves it's what they wanted all along.
pretty sure they make things based on descriptions because I've seen them do it and it comes out fine.

>there's a difference between bringing forth something yourself and having something or someone do it for you.
okay but who cares about that if you only want to describe something and have an image generated?

[Anonymous No.6666183]

>>6666171
>>So which is it?
>A person creates a model with references. This is the same as a person creating art with references.

You're dodging the question, and you're not even making sense. What does the person creating the model have to do with anything of the argument of gathering references and learning to draw vs training data being gathered to train the model. You put forth the idea that the model is doing the same as a human, so it's learning and training off of the data but you're not gonna give it the same autonomy and agency that's needed to "learn?" What an absolute copout, so no the models don't learn like a human, and don't train off of it like a human does.

>But they did use copyrighted and ""stolen"" data...

You quite literally said models are ethical and don't steal in the first place, and brought up Adobe as a counterpoint to those people called you out on it. Now all of a sudden adobe using public domain and their own in house stock images count as stolen because we're okay with that ethically? Are you fucking retarded? Stop backtracking and switching

[Anonymous No.6666185]

>>6666183
They've been arguing in bad faith all this time. I wouldn't be surprised if this was a Sam Altman astroturfing goon.

[Anonymous No.6666192]

>>6666173
Then what are artists complaining about if there was no "stolen" data?

>>6666181
>concession

>>6666183
You don't need to learn to draw to create art now, but you can still use references to make the kind of art you want to create.
>You put forth the idea that the model is doing the same as a human,
No I didn't, that's your NPC programming glitching out.
>You quite literally said
And...?

[Anonymous No.6666202]

>>6666192
>You don't need to learn to draw to create art now, but you can still use references to make the kind of art you want to create.

That's always been the case for humans doing so in different mediums, not with AI models. We're talking about AI models here, and you're likening gathering reference the same way the model does vs humans to learn and train off of it. Stop dodging the question and at least try


>You quite literally said
And...?

This is just pathetic. If you're gonna try to troll stick to a side and keep at it, don't just fumble the ball so badly and reveal yourself like a retard

[Anonymous No.6666204]

>>6666192
you try to grasp victory by setting up the rules of the debate in your favor.
>>6666182
>they don't?
correct, they don't. the credit is no more theirs than the bum down the street. you're arguing in bad faith

[Anonymous No.6666206]

>>6666192
>Then what are artists complaining about if there was no "stolen" data?
Are you fucking retarded? I already told you that ethically sourced datasets are good for us. >>6666141 dumbass motherfucker, unironically kill yourself you indian oxygen thief.

[Anonymous No.6666207]

>>6666202
>That's always been the case for humans doing so in different mediums, not with AI models
It's the case with AI models now too. Anyone can easily create whatever kind of art they want now, as long as they have an internet connection and that's a good thing. The gathering of references is no less important now than it was in the past. The whole process of disseminating and ingesting references and creating art is just streamlined. Again, your NPC programming is glitching out. The AI is just a tool people are using.

I read "they quite literally said" btw, since that's what happened. I didn't say that. I said all training is ethical and that people are whiners.

>>6666206
>I already told you that ethically sourced datasets are good for us.
Then why are people complaining about even them? What is the difference between and ethical and unethical model? There isn't one. They both do the same things.

[Anonymous No.6666212]

>>6666204
>correct, they don't. the credit is no more theirs than the bum down the street. you're arguing in bad faith
the semantics don't really matter, they are generating images that are new, that's all that matters.

[Anonymous No.6666213]

>>6666207
It's the case with AI models now too. Anyone can easily create whatever kind of art they want now, as long as they have an internet connection and that's a good thing. The gathering of references is no less important now than it was in the past. The whole process of disseminating and ingesting references and creating art is just streamlined. Again, your NPC programming is glitching out. The AI is just a tool people are using.

No you mean automating right? The prime examples of AI generation are nonedited or touched up images. There's no tool usage for the majority user of generation right now. No you didn't say that, you tried to backpedal off of the Adobe model information you posted once you realized people are fine with the ethically sourced public domain and stock images used to train it. Adobe isn't scraping artist's work theoretically without their consent and utilizing it for profit right? How on earth are you actually arguing that there's no unethical data in the models when we had house hearings detailing exactly the issue with copyrighted and unethical data scraping just this past week. Maybe pay more attention to reality instead of quirking yourself out with the NPC programming shtick

[Anonymous No.6666220]

>>6666213
>No you mean automating right?
No, the process is not automatic. Or is using a chainsaw automatic opposed to the act of sawing down a tree? Retard.
>There's no tool usage for the majority user of generation
You are literally talking about using a tool. Typing a prompt, creating and loading up a model, fine tuning the model, adjusting the settings, and iterating and editing your generations is the process of creating art using AI. Is it easier than traditional methods? Yes. But it's still an artistic method.
>once you realized people are fine with the ethically sourced public domain and stock images used to train it.
But they aren't fine with it lol.
>Adobe isn't scraping artist's work theoretically without their consent and utilizing it for profit right?
Wrong. They also used "unethical" models to get to the point where they can train these newer models.

[Anonymous No.6666221]

>>6666212
>the semantics don't really matter
they really do, it's the difference between a semi-passive slug and a proactive ubermensch
>>6666213
it's not art and they don't create, merely suggest the creation

[Anonymous No.6666223]

>>6666221
>it's not art and they don't create,
Wrong. You are coping so hard it's making you act like an illogical retard.

[Anonymous No.6666225]

>>6666220
>No you mean automating right?
No, the process is not automatic. Or is using a chainsaw automatic opposed to the act of sawing down a tree? Retard.

Man the hyperbole is something else, I never knew the idea to click a button and type some negatives, set some parameters with controlnet and gacha roll the inpainting and generations couldn't be automated entirely.

>There's no tool usage for the majority user of generation
You are literally talking about using a tool. Typing a prompt, creating and loading up a model, fine tuning the model, adjusting the settings, and iterating and editing your generations is the process of creating art using AI. Is it easier than traditional methods? Yes. But it's still an artistic method.

Yeah, I couldn't care less if you called it art, anyone can call doing anything art anyway so the next door neighbor taking an artistic shit can weigh the same as you generating an image from the model. Surely something like model usage can't be automated, oh no it's a tool.

>once you realized people are fine with the ethically sourced public domain and stock images used to train it.
But they aren't fine with it lol.

Who isn't fine with it in the thread? If there's a genuine model based off of the ideas that adobe presented why wouldn't that be ethical?

>Wrong. They also used "unethical" models to get to the point where they can train these newer models.

Sure, we can also claim that if you're actually being serious there's probably evidence right? If that's the case then yeah it's unethical as you said without the air quotes. The people replying to you have already laid out what constitutes an unethical training data set so I'm not sure why you keep trying to larp for both sides switching back and forth

[Anonymous No.6666231]

>>6666225
>ITS NOT ART
Cope and seethe Luddite. Retards exactly like you said the same thing about photography, almost every existing illustrative art style, many forms of poetry, film, CGI, photoshop, and most musical genres.
>Who isn't fine with it in the thread?
How is this thread full of delusional troons relevant? Go to Twitter, there are tons of people seething about it.

And learn how to quote you tourist.

[Anonymous No.6666235]

>>6666231
>Cope and seethe Luddite. Retards exactly like you said the same thing about photography, almost every existing illustrative art style, many forms of poetry, film, CGI, photoshop, and most musical genres.

I don't get it, are you trying to shun out other things that may be considered art towards the person? You're being just as hypocritical for no reason and I can see you're ticked off cause you're insecure about it. In reality, you really shouldn't care and prompt. If you truly care about it you wouldn't have lashed out when I brought up the comparison about a guy taking a shit, but it just seems like imposter syndrome to me when you're spouting words like luddite lmao, giving up on drawing is on you bud and using AI as a crutch and trying to herd people towards mediocrity is even more pathetic.

Learn to stick to a side and keep it next time, not wish wash when you're called out on it you NPC.

[Anonymous No.6666240]

>>6666235
>absolutely nothing but ad hominem
Like I said, cope and seethe. You are fundamentally mentally retarded just like those people I mentioned.

[Anonymous No.6666243]

>>6666231
You don't even know how to use a camera.

[Anonymous No.6666244]

>>6666240
Like I said, cope and seethe. You are fundamentally mentally retarded just like those people I mentioned.

KEK did I hit a nerve, don't misplace your anger on your own mediocrity and lack of determination on others. Fuck off absolute retard you're worse than people who've never drawn and started prompting. You're an actual loser that gave up and spews your shit to put others down, fucking clown.

[Anonymous No.6666245]

>>6666243
Yes I do and prompting is infinitely more creative than photography.

>>6666244
>he's still going
Not only are you projecting but you're also a schizo attacking a strawman. Embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.6666246]

>>6666231
>Retards exactly like you said the same thing about photography, almost every existing illustrative art style, many forms of poetry, film, CGI, photoshop, and most musical genres.
Those "retards" were correct. It's been a downhill spiral for a long time.

[Anonymous No.6666250]

>>6666245
>Not only are you projecting but you're also a schizo attacking a strawman. Embarrassing.

What happened to your program glitching catchphrase. Stop using buzzwords and try to formulate an actual argument after you get caught out switching sides like a retard. Jesus you're the saddest one out of the bunch that's been here in a while.

[Anonymous No.6666252]

>>6666169
>unironically defending child porn
Holy shit, neck yourself.

[Anonymous No.6666253]

>>6666245
Insulting proompters is infinitely more creative and productive than proompting

[Anonymous No.6666260]

>>6666246
No they weren't.

>>6666250
>STILL going
I was saying that because you kept telling me I was saying the computer learns like a person or whatever the fuck, a very common and retarded talking point coming from troons like yourself. But I didn't say anything about that, thus you were glitching out.

[Anonymous No.6666261]

>>6666253
Well it's not like you're making art anyway, you have to express yourself somehow. It's just a shame you choose to act a fool instead of doing something productive.

[Anonymous No.6666264]

>>6666260
>a very common and retarded talking point coming from troons like yourself.

Just gonna end it here cause I'm not really sure you know what you're talking about, but that argument is supported by pro-AI people but either way you do you. Hope you solve your insecurities regardless bud.

[Anonymous No.6666265]

>>6666261
>Well it's not like you're making art anyway
/ic/ and proompters have a lot in common after all

[Anonymous No.6666266]

>>6666264
>but that argument is supported by pro-AI people but either way you do you.
The fact of the matter is that I didn't bring it up, you retarded NPC. We were talking about the use of references to create art.

>>6666265
Not at all. Near polar opposites.

[Anonymous No.6666268]

>>6666266
>a very common and retarded talking point coming from troons like yourself.

Yeah but you literally just gotcha'd yourself by calling it a retarded point when it's spouted by pro-AI people. Now it's twice with the adobe and the learning part. I'm just genuinely confused at this point but yeah last comment for real my b.

[Anonymous No.6666269]

>>6666266
>Near polar opposites.
You're right 99% of /ic/ doesn't live in india

[Anonymous No.6666271]

>>6666268
I didn't gotcha myself since I didn't say that, you absolutely retarded NPC.

[Anonymous No.6666292]

>>6665384
>This whole thread
pure, concentrated, autism.

if /ic/ would draw with the same passion they argue over innane shit, they all would make it.

[Anonymous No.6666295]

>>6665384
>Waste time learning AI tool when in a couple years it will be beyond trivial.
AI art is simply unimpressive now. it used to be surprising, but it's over. only real art satisfies.

[Anonymous No.6666299]

>he does it for free
>daily

[Anonymous No.6666300]

>>6666240
>ad hominem
Using logical fallacies incorrectly while attempting to sound like a competent and intelligent debater is one of the top ten signs of terminal midwittery, you should get yourself checked by a doctor

[Anonymous No.6666306]

Good morning, sirs

[Anonymous No.6666311]

>>6665476
why does the reddit guy in the pic have to be so mean :(

[Anonymous No.6666319]

>>6666300
>projection

[Anonymous No.6666347]

>>6666231
it isn't art as there isn't an artist, those examples brought up are nowhere near comparable.

[Anonymous No.6666351]

>>6666223
I assure you, the reasoning behind us quite logical but you plug your ears and act unhinged.

[Anonymous No.6666396]

>>6666114
Wrong side of history? Really. Yeah you're right. All creative people should join the mentally challenged technerds in their ignorance to allow megacorporations free reign to expoit us as a collective so that a few rich people can line their pockets to our own detriment.
No. You parasites are on the wrong side of history. You have been from the very beginning. Too dumb to realise, too ignorant to care.

[Anonymous No.6666414]

>>6666347
There is an artist.

[Anonymous No.6666422]

>>6666396
If anyone can make images why would they buy them from these megacorporations? What the fuck are you even talking about? And why are you so obsessed with money, more-so than art? I smell a rat.

[Anonymous No.6666429]

>>6665765
rubbing shit on walls isn't painting rajesh

[Anonymous No.6666432]

>>6666414
and throwing a video into topaz video ai changing the framerate to 60 and watching the software do its thing makes me a fucking video editor
kill yourself

[Anonymous No.6666456]

wtf is this thread? /g/ isn't sending their best

[Anonymous No.6666460]

>>6666432
>video editing isn't editing videos

[Anonymous No.6666477]

>>6666414
>>6666460
The artist and the video editor is the software, not the proomptmonkey. Now go add yourself to the 41%

[Anonymous No.6666478]

>>6666456
more like reddit and twitter is sending their worst

[Anonymous No.6666497]

>>6666460
there is no fucking editing involved me changing one or two parameters and waiting for the result doesn't make you a video editor just like shoving a frozen pizza into an oven doesn't make you a cook

[Anonymous No.6666514]

I like AI art but the editors and paintover fags are cucks. I will stick to my dignity as a prompter and will never touch a tool used by paint pig. Rely solely on prompts like an AI Chad.

[Anonymous No.6666523]

>>6666460
Fuck off you retarded pajeet.

[Anonymous No.6666554]

>>6665404
Stupid question but I'll answer you charitably, be thankful for this opportunity: you should start training and practicing your observational, motor, and problem solving skills, such that you can faithfully reproduce what you see in real life or in your imagine, in whatever medium is suitable for you, through a direct, unbreakable chain of cause and effect.
In normie, low IQ niggercattle speak, to make art, you must be directly behind every detail of your piece. Using A.I. breaks this, because you're delegating parts of this creative process to a computer, ergo you can't claim to have created the piece, ergo you're not an artist.

[Anonymous No.6666565]

>>6666497
>it doesn't matter if the video was edited, it wasn't edited

[Anonymous No.6666568]

>>6665476
Why is it always either a pajeet or a failed beg?

[Anonymous No.6666570]

>>6665476
That image is a massive ego boost for me, their seething is so palpable I can almost hold it with my hands. A.I will advance so much in the next years and it will never make resentful permabegs happy because deep down they know they're still not artists, and we are.

[Anonymous No.6666606]

>>6665736
Its crazy how so many artfags are able to detect jews, grifters and tech faggots trying to steal their shit from a mile away and tell them to fuck off.
meanwhile code monkey would rather suck Altmans cock, shill for free and let their job being taken over by some silicon valley megacorp, maybe because they fell for muh improved workflow AGI sci-fi sweet talk.
I suppose thats the difference between caring about your craft and doing it for money.

[Anonymous No.6666614]

3D had come and stayed despite everyone hates it. What makes you think AI will be different?

[Anonymous No.6666617]

>>6666570
I know you’re trolling but I really do wonder what the point of trying to generate images is. It’s not like you can flaunt it cause you didn’t draw it and the moment it’s revealed to be AI generated it loses value for the person viewing it. I genuinely don’t get it other than being a quick grift for now until better ai comes out and the public becomes so desensitized to it and it loses even more value

[Anonymous No.6666623]

>>6666617
I'm dead serious and the saddest part is how the person in the post thinks being a skilled artist is something you must be born with.

[Anonymous No.6666628]

>>6666617
do you really only see art as a source of money and clout?

[Anonymous No.6666646]

>>6666628
Art is also the great source of wasting time.

[Anonymous No.6666658]

>>6666628
Also imagine getting into art to make money? You have to be several standard deviations below in IQ to think that, a coal miner makes more money (on average).
t. artist

[Anonymous No.6666659]

>>6665855
no more asian genes, only ai genes

[Anonymous No.6666660]

>>6666658
thats why sakimi clones are dime a dozen but they barely make money

[Anonymous No.6666662]

>>6666143
if the model is gathering reference, then you are not an artist. You commission.

[Anonymous No.6666676]

>>6666662
you can not simultaneously claim that you are an artist and in the same breath treating the machine like a full artist. Face it. You are no better than a furry commissioning inflation porn, because at least they pay the creator>>6666570

[Anonymous No.6666685]

>>6666614
Your parents weren't even born when 3D came into the scene

[Anonymous No.6666690]

>>6666660
Yes.
Basically, if you already have the skill, you have good chances of making money with it, but if you're starting out, and with the sole purpose of making money, you're better off getting into another "field". Even resin necklaces is more profitable. Just get into art if you really like it, if you absolute need it like oxygen, or if it's a hobby, and then you can start thinking about the money aspect.

>sakimi clones
I tried to be one, my stuff ends up look like plastic dolls dressed up. I've "reverted" to line art which is my real strength, but that doesn't mean I didn't learn a lot copying from her, and I'm starting to see my lined art is somehow getting close to Sakimi but not quite, it has my own twist, but with lines, it has a nice 90s look, I'm getting very proud of it.

[Anonymous No.6666691]

>>6666662
the model isn't gathering reference, it's you.
>hmm what do I want to make today
>*downloads or creates models, adjusts prompts, works to create what he wants*
it's just like 500000 times faster than drawing and with basically no barrier to entry but it's the same shit

[Anonymous No.6666694]

>>6666628
If anything drawing/painting is far from earning any sort of decent income, it takes time and effort to get to a decent level before you can even think of making money.

[Anonymous No.6666701]

>>6666691
how a commission works:
>you give reference and describe what you want
>either you give artist liberty or give poses to reference
>artist gives you sketch for feedback
>you say what you like or dont like
>artist corrects it and gives final product
>you pay and get the final product
i really dont see where the fucking difference is. The main work is still done by AI, you are basically just commissioning

[Anonymous No.6666706]

>>6666701
It’s essentially the same thing as commissioning because the generation is a gacha roll in the end. Except you just don’t pay for it and get something close to detailing what you typed out/set parameters to.

[Anonymous No.6666708]

>>6666691
If the model did the training with the references instead of you, the model is the artist, not you.

>it's just like 500000 times faster than drawing
Correct, but it's not you being fast, it's the computer.

>but it's the same shit
The result? Yes.
The process? No.

[Anonymous No.6666709]

>>6666701
The difference is you only need to pay 20$ a month to a Jewish company(Some even free) for million of high quality arts

[Anonymous No.6666712]

>>6666685
The fact is every full-length cartoon is 3D now like it or not.

[Anonymous No.6666713]

>>6666701
man grow up, acting like an idiot isn't going to solve your problems.

>>6666708
it's your creative vision that's coming to life not the computers

[Anonymous No.6666717]

>>6666713
I don’t know why you’re getting so angry about it, you’re free to call it your art but it’s just as close to commissioning to most people as well. I dont get how the similarities aren’t registering for you, or have you just never commissioned anything before

[Anonymous No.6666718]

>>6666706
and the fact is that after you commissioned it you still know nothing about how it works. Did you deliberately choose to get this perspective, this anatomy and this body type? No, the AI trained on the mind of a real artist did it. You still know nothing about art at the end of the day, but at least you have funny picture, right?

[Anonymous No.6666721]

>>6666718
I also recall the reasoning behind the usco’s decision about not granting copyright to the images from that comic. Something like the generation of the model is doing most of the work in the output whereas the human(commissioner) only guides it somewhat to something in that realm

[Anonymous No.6666722]

>>6666709
yea and? the thread was about "being an artist" and the message i answered to too. you are not an artist but a commissioner. I am ok if you call yourself that, but dont expect to get respect for that.

>>6666713

>childish
you call yourself an artist by commissioning a machine.

[Anonymous No.6666723]

>>6666713
>it's your creative vision that's coming to life not the computers
Yes, and?
Suppose you commission Audemar's Piguet to build a personalized watch for you, and you give them your "creative vision" of how you want the watch to be. They create the watch, and then you get it in a nice box, and now you have your creative vision expressed in the watch. Does that make you a watchmaker?

[Anonymous No.6666725]

>>6666721
because it is just true. You didnt use your own knowledge to create it. Even if we had a technology to bring your thoughts on the canvas by steering it with your mind it would be more true to artistry than the commission bot

[Anonymous No.6666726]

stop bumping threads that are off topic you retarded gorilla nlggers.

[Anonymous No.6666802]

>>6665396
So you don't want to make art, you just want to make money.
If you don't care to be an artist then just use AI.

[Anonymous No.6666809]

AI art is real art
Transwomen are real women

[Anonymous No.6666827]

>>6666809
this, we are so valid aisisters!

[Anonymous No.6666840]

>>6666809
What a terrible argument, considering how people suddenly don't care being transphobic the second they see transwoman that actually looks like a fertile female.

[Anonymous No.6666845]

i guess the overzealous janny will keep deleting my hot dogs so i'll reply here:

>>6666830
'twas a joke

>>6666831
i actually like when people have strong views on things - often shows up in the work. hope your stuff is interesting.

>>6666832
critique is very limited among the prompters.
they remain very insecure and defensive; critique is seen as invalidating their very existence.
but if you were to critique images then any of the common errors are now fair game - elements bleeding into each other, fingers etc. all of that stuff can now be corrected and not correcting it is the result of laziness and a lack of care.
i would share the prompt because i have no commercial aspirations. if someone withheld the prompt, that's their prerogative.
technique and prompt sharing is relatively common however, it's a good aspect of their community.

[Anonymous No.6666847]

>>6666809
I hate these money guru hustlebro youtubers so much. They’re not making any money from sharing their process, they’re making money from views, ads, affiliate links, newsletters, funneling users to discords to slow drip them to their website where they have bootcamps, sponsors, etc.

[Anonymous No.6666848]

>>6666847
from doing the process that they’re sharing* bleh I should finish my coffee

[Anonymous No.6666853]

>>6666845
the problem is, that the critique ic can give is part of the process you deliberately chose to skip over. What you are looking for is people who know how to get the best response out of a computer which isnt and never was the point of ic.

[Anonymous No.6666862]

>>6666840
>don't care being transphobic the second they see transwoman that actually looks like a fertile female.
hahahaha
go apply a noose to your neck fagtron

[Anonymous No.6666863]

>>6666565
kys ai nigger

[Anonymous No.6666865]

>>6666853
i disagree in part; while it is true that prompting skips many of the technical requirements an artist traditionally had to satisfy, it will often produce technical errors in anatomy, perspective etc that are not dissimilar to those by inexperienced artists e.g. abs in the wrong place is very common.

but the generated images have a slew of other issues native to themselves that the prompters don't even spot because they generate at-pace and are unaccustomed to actually looking at, let along working on, a piece for any length of time. they are careless.

there are of course larger concerns like direction and composition, somewhat opinion-based, but again sorely lacking in quality among the prompters.

there is a final native-technical critique of the generated images, concerned only with technical execution native to the form (methods of inpainting, controlnetting etc) that are not dissimilar to /3/ artists talking about approaches to building shaders, best approaches to baking normals etc. this /ic/ cannot currently help with, but mostly because of its own disinterest/reluctance to learn.

[Anonymous No.6666927]

>>6665396
There is nothing GREAT in something that literally anyone can do, like writing a prompt or pushing some bottoms.

Good luck trying to explain to your clients why they can't don themselves.

[Anonymous No.6666941]

Slop artists whining about slop art machines. Precious.

[Anonymous No.6666994]

>>6666809
AI artists:
>FREE CASH
>NO SKILLS NEEDED
>SIMPLE
artists:
>too late
>no style
>no connections
>unremarkable
>too old
>no support
>too young
>not good enough
>too slow
>you just suck
>no talent
>boring

[Anonymous No.6666996]

You can't critique shit about your machine vomit.
>erm yes maybe try inputting "masterpiece" and negative prompting "bad drawing" and then create a LORA model so close to the thing you want to get that it's basically tracing, and then maybe there's a chance you won't get a penrose triangle of an arm when you're done sifting through the 1000 gacha prompts your melting GPU just sharted
People here want to learn to actually draw not to be failed drawfag wannabes. Find another fucking hobby if you hate creating so much you'd let a computer do it in your stead. You're clearly not welcome in any art circles anyhow by virtue of being insufferable clowns somehow even worse than your average bpd artfag, when will that get through your thick ape skull.

[Anonymous No.6666998]

>>6665384
If you have to ask this, you’re not an artist. You don’t get it, and never will.

[Anonymous No.6667001]

>>6666606
The endgame of coders is the void. They are the most detached humans on the planet.

[Anonymous No.6667007]

>>6666865
yea thats computer shit. It is and never was some part of ic because it doesnt involve drawing.

[Anonymous No.6667031]

>>6666865
>people on this drawing board are disinterested in learning the skill of [not drawing]
who could have guessed

[Anonymous No.6667042]

>>6667007
>ic because it doesnt involve drawing.
/ic is mostly copypasta-ing trite memes

[Anonymous No.6667085]

>>6667001
>The endgame of coders is the void.
Actually, accessing void is a segmentation fault.

[Anonymous No.6667118]

>>6666994
>uses human made art in his post
oh the ironing
YWNBAA
YWNBAW

[Anonymous No.6667125]

>>6665384
is this whole thread just a bunch of gpt-2 copypasted crap?
pretty sure gpt-4 is much smarter than anything itt

[Anonymous No.6667129]

>>6667085
public void YWNBAA()
{
Application.Exit();
}

[Anonymous No.6667142]

>>6667001
I am? coding is just another tool for creating stuff

anyway, why aren't these threads being deleted on sight? why is there a single artificial "intelligence" "art" thread in an art board?

at least limit this shit to a single containment thread

[Anonymous No.6667147]

>>6667142
>why aren't these threads being deleted on sight?
Because you and about 3 of your buddies love to post in them?

[Anonymous No.6667156]

>>6667142
you must be blind because this is the containment thread

[Anonymous No.6667168]

>>6667147
I come here once a month, I see the 10 AI threads in the catalogue, I report a couple of them, I bitch about it in another one, I leave; I think I have more than 3 buddies.

anyway, the board is useless until this shit is sorted out

or until the pajeets find another stop shitting on the street quick scheme

[Anonymous No.6667174]

>>6667085
>accessing void is a segmentation fault
No: it's an undefined operation.

Practically speaking, dereferencing NULL often yields a segmentation fault, but it's not defined as a segmentation fault either.

[Anonymous No.6667181]

>meanwhile /ic/ is celebrating they don't know jeff watts just turned his atelier into a gpu farm
the blackpill /ic/ refuses to realize

[Anonymous No.6667183]

>>6667181
source on that

[Anonymous No.6667190]

>>6665384
>>6665939
huh, this is pretty much Photoshop's Liquify on steroids
are permabeg luddites against liquify now?

[Anonymous No.6667198]

>>6667190
Photobashers were always regarded as hacks with or without AI

[Anonymous No.6667221]

>>6667183
it's real
>Interviewer: Let's start from the beginning. Could you tell us a little about your atelier and what inspired you to turn it into an AI image farm?
>Watts: Certainly. My atelier was a space dedicated to traditional art forms, such as painting and sculpture. I've always been passionate about art, but I became increasingly intrigued by the potential of artificial intelligence and its applications in creative fields. The idea of merging the traditional and the cutting-edge inspired me to embark on this new journey.
>Interviewer: That sounds incredibly innovative. How has the response been so far?
>Watts: The response has been overwhelmingly positive. There's a growing interest in AI-generated art and its potential to push the boundaries of creativity. We've received commissions from individuals, galleries, and even businesses looking to incorporate AI-generated visuals into their branding or marketing campaigns. It's an exciting time to be at the intersection of art and technology.

[Anonymous No.6667226]

>>6667221
source on that

[Anonymous No.6667227]

>>6667226
i made it up it was chat gpt

[Anonymous No.6667231]

>>6667227
mhm so you did

[Anonymous No.6667236]

>>6667231
yeah i did he didnt actually do that

[Anonymous No.6667258]

>>6667198
99.9% of graphics on video streams, internet, etc. are not hand drawn. Sorry. Computers , algorithms, canned data, etc. are the way it's been for decades. It's 99% of the art market. Even most video is "postprocessed" using software or firmware. La vie en photobash is modern times.

[Anonymous No.6667259]

>>6665384
just use it to shitpost lel
only people really insecure about ai art are people who are so shit that a fucking glorified autocomplete could beat them or "professionals" who hae a safe, generic, and indistinct style to the point where the artists behind the art is replaceable

either learn to draw or die trying

[Anonymous No.6667273]

>>6666832
Most do but more importantly they share prompts and models. I find it VERY strange how much hate AI art gets when it's such an amazing medium when it comes to this.

Go to Civitai and spend 10 minutes searching up models and try to really take in how incredible it is that people create and then freely share models like that. Each one of them allows for a near infinite amount of new and unique art pieces and people just share them because they're based and enjoy art. And alongside the models are instructions or images they made to guide you along in using them.

Yeah yeah it's "stolen" art but most people aren't thinking along those lines because they're just sharing and creating the art they enjoy. Like how people upload music to Soundcloud(there's lots of "stolen" music there too). I also believe that nobody will be thinking about these made up ethics in the future, AI illustration will simply be something anyone can freely indulge in, in whatever form they want. The only people who would have exclusive rights to their own styles would be physical artists selling single pieces in exclusive venues. Because if you upload one of your images online someone will be able to mimic the style for their art. And people will be publishing their own styles for people to use, through official services hosted by corporations like Adobe or Getty.

[Anonymous No.6667276]

>>6667259
You’re mistaking insecurity with just simply not wanting to hear about it. You’re like a persistent newsletter that won’t stop the emails no matter how many times someone clicks on the unsubscribe button.

[Anonymous No.6667291]

>>6667259
>>6667273
good takes
/thread

[Anonymous No.6667310]

>6667291
neck yourself ni/g/ger

[Anonymous No.6667317]

>>6667258
Oh do tell me more about how no one has given a shit about real art since the 60's or so. How did I never notice this shit.

[Anonymous No.6667345]

>>6667190
>are permabeg luddites against liquify now?
Yes. They'll also pretend they bought Photoshop and aren't thieves. While trying to grift on social media.

[Anonymous No.6667355]

>>6667345
lurk more /g/aylord

[Anonymous No.6667376]

>>6667273
Cool, happy or you, but consider sticking to your AIfaggot goycattle websites in the future instead of constantly invading spaces made for actual artists because none here wants you ghouls around

[Anonymous No.6667401]

>>6667273

enjoy it while it last

[Anonymous No.6667410]

>>6667376
Not going to happen. People like art.

>>6667401
It's not going anywhere though.

[Anonymous No.6667413]

>>6667376
>actual artists
B.S. artists. Maybe.

[Anonymous No.6667414]

>>6667345
>Stealing from adobe is morally wrong
Adobe are on the devils side. They steal from you. They trained thier AI on users work without explicitly asking. So, it's not fair to say one who pirates adobe products is the same as an ai nigger.

[Anonymous No.6667419]

>>6665384
>this tech will be used by modern necromancers to animate your dead spouse, kids or family to spew out propaganda or commercials
Grim

[Anonymous No.6667420]

>>6667410
>It's not going anywhere though.

oh no... AI is here to stay. The tech is but not your way of using it. Have fun.

[Anonymous No.6667427]

>>6667410
Image generation isn't going anywhere but the fad will. All these "make 100k with Ai" videos are going to age very poorly when these apps come pre-installed on everyones phones and literal children can speak into their tablets and make better Ai pictures and animations than anything in /g/ or the stablediffusion subreddit. It will simply be a thing that exists and everyone takes for granted. People trying to sell Ai will be a bigger laughing stock than they already are.

[Anonymous No.6667428]

>>6667419
I can't understand what kind of subhuman is pro-AI at this point. The only net positive application I can see for AI is perhaps medical research. Everything else is pure dystopian/totalitarian nightmare shit. Their endgame seem to be reducing themselves to bundle of dopamine producing cells and forcing everyone else to go along with it.

[Anonymous No.6667431]

>>6665476
>because you were born with talent

fuck you this is the biggest fucking meme, yeah if talent is grinding thousands of hours then yes I was born with it fucking retarded lazy nigger

[Anonymous No.6667432]

>>6667414
I didn't say it was wrong.

>>6667420
What?

>>6667427
It isn't a fad, it's an emerging art form that's more productive than what's came before it. I don't know why you're talking about money but it's not relevant to what I was talking about.

[Anonymous No.6667434]

Did anyone take the 4 second challenge? How did you do?

[Anonymous No.6667439]

>>6667428
>I can't understand what kind of subhuman is pro-AI at this point.
Tankie trannie programmers who use mastodon and think that the government will pay for their food, housing, electronics and hrt even though ai made them economically useless.

[Anonymous No.6667451]

>>6667428
>why people like good fast art and increased productivity???

[Anonymous No.6667453]

>>6667451
>why people want to be human instead of dopaminergic blob

[Anonymous No.6667456]

>>6666108
Using a picture shitter developed using another artist's works (which is all of them) is art theft, just like tracing.

[Anonymous No.6667459]

>>6667451
You want fast food? Eat fast food. But don't tell us how superior it is to self made Bolognese

[Anonymous No.6667468]

dude you can't just use AI to make something easier or more fleshed out than you normally could

[Anonymous No.6667472]

>>6667432
Filling the internet with infinite digital junk isn't productive, it is wasteful. Image generation is not challenging or fulfilling enough to hold lasting appeal as a hobby. People in the future simply won't care about artistry and kids will wonder why weird old boomers won't shut up about how unique their proompts are when they've had this technology in their hands since they were toddlers.

[Anonymous No.6667475]

>>6667472
>you're wasting bytes with beautiful images!
jesus

[Anonymous No.6667479]

>>6667475
images no one will care about becuase it's mass produced garbage

[Anonymous No.6667485]

>>6667479
anime is mass produced garbage yet you all care about that, a lot.

[Anonymous No.6667489]

>>6667451
>people love ai art, they do sir!
yeah sure Rajesh, i am sure everyone is fuming with happiest how good ai art is and treating prompter with admiration and respect. I sure fucking do.

[Anonymous No.6667491]

>>6667485
Except I don't care about moeshit #9376

[Anonymous No.6667494]

>>6667485
>anime is mass produced garbage
Yes. Now amplify that by an exponential rate. You get the point.

[Anonymous No.6667495]

>>6667491
whatever anime you care about I'm sure it looks like 100 others because anime is generally all the same looking shit

[Anonymous No.6667498]

>>6667494
>Yes. Now amplify that by an exponential rate.
already is

[Anonymous No.6667511]

>>6667495
Holy cope. No one will ever care about proompters because there's a 1000 proompters shitting out the same thing, all content of which initially stolen from an actually competent artist, who people actually will care about because, you know, he's the real deal.

[Anonymous No.6667514]

>>6667511
why do they have more subs than you?

[Anonymous No.6667525]

>>6667514
You mean your AI grift influencers? Most followers are probably bots they bought. If fake art does it, why not fake followers? Same principle after all :^)

[Anonymous No.6667527]

>>6667525
I just mean the average prompter.
>they're fake
What a sore loser.

[Anonymous No.6667528]

>>6667511
it's not about the "proompter" it's about the art just as it's not about the artist, it's about the art. now cope

[Anonymous No.6667529]

>>6667498
No it isn't. Moeshit doesn't get produced in 4 seconds. AI shitter's will post more than an animator payed 2 dollars per hour could only dream of. AI could also be used for marketing, where the ad is specifically designed for you and your search history.

[Anonymous No.6667534]

>>6667525
that's some high grade copium you got there

[Anonymous No.6667544]

>>6667529
>No it isn't.
yes it is.

>Moeshit doesn't get produced in 4 seconds.
gets produced fast enough to feel like 4 seconds, I can go on any anime streaming site and see hundreds...no thousands of the same looking shit. it's soulless mass produced garbage.

[Anonymous No.6667549]

>>6667528
lol, who is the "average proompter"?
Lemme guess, rich, accomplished, speaks 11 languages fluently and knows kung fu. 11 inch dick and 100 000 000 followers on twitter. Could draw better than Kim Jung Gi except he can't be bothered because proompting so much more refined.
And what's wrong with fake followers? Fake art - fake followers? You don't get to say one is wrong and the other is not without elaborating.

[Anonymous No.6667552]

>>6667544
And yet you go to those streaming sites because the art there has >>>value<<< because there is a
>human
with a
>name
attached to the work. This is why you can’t stay on /g/ to discuss AI works. Because there is no
>value
attached to AI “art”.

[Anonymous No.6667557]

>>6667432

Kek. Have you not keep up with the news? The end is near boy...

[Anonymous No.6667566]

>>6667552
no, I go there to watch probably 0.0001% of the shows and I don't care who made them, once they're good.

[Anonymous No.6667567]

>>6667557
Be clear.

[Anonymous No.6667569]

>>6667566
like seriously if I went to an anime streaming site and there was a show made with AI but it was good, you think I'd give a shit?

[Anonymous No.6667575]

>>6667273
You won't own the labor you wasted your time and effort to master and you will be happy like the rest of the proles that surround you. Did I get it right?

[Anonymous No.6667576]

>>6667575
Why are you such a greedy jew? You don't even like art.

[Anonymous No.6667579]

>>6667475
>you're wasting bytes with beautiful images!
...yes?

[Anonymous No.6667582]

>>6667345
i was going to say that /ic/ is being raided by ludditte-bots, but then i remember /ic/ has always been full of /beg/ contrarians with the most retarded virgin hot takes
but seriously, this thread is as low as it gets

[Anonymous No.6667586]

>>6667582
Yes you are definitely an /ic/ native and not a /g/ tourist so your opinion must be absolutely heckin valid just like your preferred pronouns are.

[Anonymous No.6667587]

>>6667575
this is what you anti AI art retards don't get. It's not about owning anything it's about making something that give you an aesthetic experience. If I can make a movie with AI, or a videogame and I love it, that's it. There doesn't need to be anything else in this equation.

[Anonymous No.6667589]

>>6667582
>just accept the chungus chip being implanted in your brain! It's never ok to disagree with technology!

Also
>76 posters
>284 replies
It's literally the same bugman posting bait over and ovee

[Anonymous No.6667591]

>>6667587
That's a lot of words to say "mindless and maximal consumption"

[Anonymous No.6667592]

>>6667587
By the time Ai is this advanced 90% of the world will be dead by starvation or nukes. You won't be one of the 10% or less who enjoys fully automated space communism or you wouldn't be here.

[Anonymous No.6667597]

>>6667587
Well, enjoy yourself.

[Anonymous No.6667603]

>>6667485
>my mass produced shit is good because... mass produced shit already exists!!!
brain rot

[Anonymous No.6667608]

>>6667591
That's enjoying life, something you're clearly incapable of because you're soulless.

[Anonymous No.6667613]

>>6667608
Based and valid solipsistic hedonist.

[Anonymous No.6667614]

>>6667608
>enjoying life
Ye i guess commissioners must live a pretty good life. But you post regularly on 4chan so that's a no.

[Anonymous No.6667626]

>>6667608
>AI tranny who parasites on other people's self-expression accuses others of soullessness
Now that's rich.

[Anonymous No.6667632]

>>6667626
>parasites on other people's self-expression
everyone does this

[Anonymous No.6667634]

>>6667626
It takes a certain kind of demonic spirituality to treat the soul of others as raw material for easy consumption.

[Anonymous No.6667654]

>>6667632
I've yet to type (((Greg Rutkowski)))(((Artstation)))) and take credit for what comes out.
You're an empty husk of a human. That's why you need to parasite on other people to fill the void.

[Anonymous No.6667655]

The smile part creeped me out, so fucking uncanny. This shit belongs on /x/.

[Anonymous No.6667667]

Last message to send this thread to hell

[Anonymous No.6667676]

>>6667569
I don’t care about your shit taste in anime.

[Anonymous No.6667693]

>>6667667

[Anonymous No.6667695]

>>6667667
see ya next saturday honey ;^)

[Anonymous No.6667707]

>>6667569
Theorically, you wouldn't
Good thing no good animation will ever come out of ML tech

[Anonymous No.6667800]

>>6667707
why would you say something so dumb

[Anonymous No.6667810]

>>6667800
all terrible so why post retardation as an example

[Anonymous No.6667816]

>>6667810
what will it be like in a year?

[Anonymous No.6667836]

>>6667816
IDK would y'all niggas learn basic shit by then instead of putting filters on already made animations

[Anonymous No.6667894]

>>6667800
creepypasta material

[Anonymous No.6667948]

It’s really weird to me that ai bros are arguing animation of all thing that AI models will be able to do. There’s nuance and timing differences unique to each type of film that isn’t the same as slapping an ai filter over. I genuinely doubt ai will ever be able to produce anything like that fully within at least a couple decades. Not to mention even prominent production series managers said they aren’t touching AI because of the legal and moral issues surrounding it in Japanese studios. I also have yet to see anything in mainstream manga publications of any series using AI, when the tools already exist like premise assets for backgrounds and the like. Why do ai retards think anyone right now prominent in creating would use AI when it’s such a liability and most artists can simply draw it exactly as they need without gacha rolling a prompt and hoping it works out with drawing over. Utterly retarded takes in the past day alone

[Anonymous No.6667966]

It's also funny how even your average crypto/nft bro looks down on AI art and yet somehow we've convinced ourselves proompters are artists using a glorified slot machine. Why do we just continue to sink deeper into mediocrity for the sake of lining emad's pockets

[Anonymous No.6667976]

>>6667948
you have literally no idea what you're talking about and don't pay attention

[Anonymous No.6668055]

>>6667948
Ai can do animation but at horrendous quality and only short bits at a time. And even if it could do high quality full length movies imagine all the things it would fuck up. Generating a single image is already a game of gatcha now imagine sitting and watching thousands of hours of different versions of the same movie hoping for it to get everything right.

[Anonymous No.6668080]

>>6668055
AI will eventually get it all right by correcting its own mistakes and having a better understanding of what it's doing.

[Anonymous No.6668087]

>>6667976
Right and I’ll take it from a studio production managers mouth vs a random person

[Anonymous No.6668093]

>>6668080
Eventually but stylistic choices within animated films and shows seem like a nightmare and I don’t see it doing much in that sense unless you’re telling me it can do accurate in betweens based off of key frames alone, otherwise it’s always going to need actual animators to look as good as it does normally

[Anonymous No.6668118]

>>6668080
>understanding
Kek, until there is actual AI, there is no understanding.

[Anonymous No.6668121]

>be AIfag
>gloat about how artists are being replaced and how they're worthless and how you "make" better art than artists
>proceed to openly admit you're using a picture shitter directly using an artist's work for data
>openly shit on the artist if they don't like it
Do they forget that these artworks didn't just spanw from the ether and that an actual artist drew their "dataset?" All this proves is that sharing art online was a mistake. Too many ungrateful idiots.

[Anonymous No.6668329]

>>6668121
They're that stupid, yes.

[Anonymous No.6668370]

>>6667948
The corridor niggers made people believe rotoscoping with an AI filter is animating too.
Faggots peddling this tech and arguing its just gonna get better in 2 weeks dude are so unbelievably ignorant it makes my head spin.

[Anonymous No.6668378]

>>6665384
I just was browsing amazon and came across pic related and was kinda blown away over how much AI stuff is already being published. Most of it looks like shit if you look closely but is mom going to care when she buys it for her kid? Is she even going to know its AI generated? Will the kid care? The bio of the author is fabricated bullshit.

Obviously this mostly matters to people selling works on public marketplaces but I honestly feel bad for anyone making "real" coloring books for amazon or other places. Maybe I'm wrong and nobody is buying this crap. I dunno

[Anonymous No.6668380]

>>6668378
it'll get stamped out, it is detrimental to the businesses to be flooded with knockoffs or lackluster products (emphasis on flooded)

[Anonymous No.6668416]

>>6665476
its absolutely great that art is just going to devolve into something akin to a factory line job with billions of talentless soulless npcs producing endless quantities of visual slop.

[Anonymous No.6668442]

>>6668378
Well anon have you played shovelware before or seen those really crappy knockoff movies
>real coloring books by unknown author and random ass subject matter online
>I pretty sure the retard also used chatGPT to write the description
>also "Art was motivated to inspire creativity in others"
>keeps using art as if it's their name multiple times
>writes "high quality art" shows pic related
>is copy pasting bookcovers position in their official page that's easily noticable
>you know most sites also have a report function

[Anonymous No.6668489]

>>6668442
I'm so excited for the future which AI bros will bring us

[Anonymous No.6669112]

>>6668080
>>6668118
This is the fundamental Problem withn """AI""" it's a predictor, it doesn't think or recognize shit, it's literally brain dead retarded. It's advanced mathemathics that predict the most likely outcome based on training data, nothing more.

We are decades if not centuries away from real AI.

[Anonymous No.6670353]

>>6666666

[Anonymous No.6670357]

>>6670353
Witnessed and hell satan