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Going through finches guide, I have a fundamental/basic understanding of anatomy. I can draw the muscle groups accurately from memory now (doesn't mean it looks good.)

So he recommends to copy all of the drawing once, okay got it.

Than he says to draw the book again on your own, which I believe he's referring to from memory. But how does that work? Look at the picture, draw from memory and move on to the next one. Or do I keep doing it till it looks close enough? Wish he expanded more on this but looking for some additional guidance and direction.

>> No.6660736

The way I did it, I would stare at the drawing for several minutes, until I'd have the reference memorized. Then I'd close the book and draw it, going through the basic form stage, then adding detail on top. Constructing it same as always.

This stage is gonna take a long time. And at first, you might only have the energy to do one memory drawing per day. But eventually you notice patterns, like, you'll see how Bridgman uses the same lines to draw the hips, every time, and how he'd draw the fingers the same way every time, and the shapes repeat themselves, for all 1000 drawings. By the end of the book, you can pretty much predict how Bridgman will draw each bodypart. It's a mindblowing experience.

>> No.6660744

>>6660727
Depends what you want to practice. You don't practice drawing from imagination as you practice drawing from memory as you practice accuracy and so forth

>> No.6660747

>>6660727
Finch is a cunt

>> No.6660775

Not a single one of these bridgtards have ever produced their works when challenged.
And those that do appear to be using this work - posted in other threads of course - have been drawing for 5+ years. But they won't tell you this.
Any newfag who fell for the "just copy this 1920s book bro" meme deserved all those wasted time as price for having no critical thinking.

>> No.6660786

>>6660775
Yup, but they're getting mileage, building discipline, and developing their visual library. Definitely not time wasted.

Drills like that are very important. But to progress efficiently, they need to be balanced with other things. Eventually, they'll figure things out and become full blown artists.

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>>6660775
the anon in /msg/ started drawing in 2020, and his work looks like this. It's already professional, imo

>> No.6660791

>>6660787
I can see proportions are off I’m some areas but pretty good. I think the shading and messy lines carry this honestly

>> No.6660813

>>6660775
And that's why David Finch and Frank Frazetta have never produced anything of value. You falseflagging retard crab. What is your advice anon of the 6660775th esquire? To purchase the new Brent Eviston for 50% off on sites such as Udemy, Colosso, and others?

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>>6660775
>>6660787
>>6660791
lol thanks
I actually started taking drawing seriously and drawing every day in January 2022, and started doing Bridgman copies in May 2022, so I've been actually drawing for about a year and a half now (been a lifelong doodler though). For reference, here are some of my "gesture drawings" from January 22

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>>6660872
and here's a year later, January 23

>> No.6660880

>>6660775
>have been drawing for 5+ years
So, you only accept bridgeman works if a complete beginner gets good in 1 year? 2? is 3 ok? 4 is pushing it?
he's not even for complete beginners, but people who have got a bit of pencil mileage (enough to commit to going to artschool or do it pro etc)

>> No.6660886

>>6660872
>>6660876
ah, i got the number wrong. you're even more impressive now

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>>6660736

Interesting I'll try that.

>>6660744

Makes sense, I guess I'll lean more into understanding the drawing than being 1:1

>>6660747

Thank you for your contribution

>>6660872

That's awesome thanks for sharing, now that you been drawing for a while would you still recommend bridgeman and did you draw it twice copying it than doing it from memory?

>> No.6660978

>>6660736
Sounds like a lot of work. What book should I use?

>> No.6660979

>>6660978
The Big Book

>> No.6660987

>>6660979
Complete guide to drawing from life? Btw Is his book about hands good?

>> No.6660992

>>6660987
yup, it's the complete guide. And yeah, the book on hands is very good

>> No.6660998

>>6660992
Arigato gozaimasu. Hands are my Achilles heel. Will start his book after I'm done with Tomfox anatomy.

>> No.6661007

>>6660787
One thing to keep in mind, if you are going to exaggerate a gesture, proportions will be placed differently.
I don't know if you did it on purpose but the gesture is a bit exaggerated, most notably in the relation between hips and shoulder, but it also appears you tried to 'fit' your drawing to the reference image, the crotch and collarbone match up in the drawing and reference coupled with a more extreme curve in the spine makes her torso longer in your drawing compared to the reference. You try to fit a more extreme curve in the same height, the line of the torso becomes longer.

Also, the drawing gives a feeling that it is slightly out of balance, the weight is on her right foot in this contraposto pose, and in your drawing the figure moves out too far to the left foot. The weight distribution is messed up.

>> No.6661230

>>6660886
Thank you!
>>6660971
Thanks; yes and yes. But I did Michael Hampton's course and book first, and that really helped me understand everything he was talking about. I also supplemented my knowledge with anatomy books, mostly morpho and stonehouse and a little anatomy for sculptors.
>>6661007
Thanks for the feedback! And yeah I always try to exaggerate the gesture.

>> No.6661405

>>6660727
You don't

What a stupid fucking thread.

>> No.6661460

>>6661405
pyw

>> No.6661486

>>6661230
How did you use Hampton's stuff. Just copying his book? I have it but not quite sure how to use it

>> No.6661623

>>6661486
Yeah, and check out his video courses.

>> No.6661792

>>6661405
Pyw coward

>> No.6661823

>>6661623
Another possible stupid question. When copying how much should I care about the results. I find I worry too much about making my copy absolutely perfect and start to shut down when I inevitably fail. Is it just something where I give it my best attempt and keep moving on despite the results?

>> No.6661827

>>6661823
Why would you do anything less than your best? Grit down and keep trying.

>> No.6661841

>>6661827
I guess what I meant is that I often find myself trying to make an exact copy of the examples and when they inevitably they don't match I start to doubt myself. So I should just accept my current best will fall short and keep moving on? I don't have anyone to guide me through all this learning so apologies if I'm sounding dumb

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>>6661792
>>6661792
Why

>> No.6661875

>>6661841
Of course they won't match, that's why you have to keep practicing. You don't hit bullseye on the first try, anon. Keep drawing until you get it.

>> No.6661916

>>6661823
Bridg anon here
Just try your best and don't dwell on the bad ones

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>>6661871
If I have to spell it out, to see if you are a crab or someone who knows what their talking about.

The only person who has was the bridgeman guy. Here I'll post mine first before you ask me.